Cathay Pacific Cargo 747-8 Nose Loading

Nose loading of a cargo pallet aboard a Cathay Pacific Cargo Boeing 747-867F, registration B-LJM, at Houston Intercontinental Airport on 02 October 2016. Filmed by Nathan Moeller of Astro95 Media with a GoPro HERO4 Black Edition.
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[@wyunaboy]

This is why 747 will around longer then all its competitor. Nose that can open vastly improve on loading time and time is the name of the game in cargo business.

[@Astro95Media]

Absolutely! We'll see the Queen flying for decades to come.

[@johno7564]

Unfortunately the 747freighter will be around much longer for non ULD fitting loads. If it can fit onto a standard ULD it can be flown on a 777 freighter. One occasion with a former company, the load was longer than three pallets. We sat out there for while until someone contacted the origin to find out how they got it in. The origin lifted the load up using two deck loaders. We unloaded it using two deck loaders.

[@fishordie1992]

​@@johno7564yeah sometimes you have to. Either elevators back to back or perpindicular depending on the room you have on the ramp. Still. This is a dangerous procedure being performed here. No need for a nose load if you don't have a 20ft pallet unless management just wants to show off what they don't know. You'd be surprised what can fit through the cargo door.

[@papanoel3999]

I love this video.thank you.

[@Astro95Media]

DIRK FIZZLEFUNK I’m glad! Hard to believe it’s already been two years since we shot it!

[@HELLH0WND]

I didn't see a ladder so how do the pilots get into the cockpit?

[@Astro95Media]

It's the yellow ladder being retracted at 1:39.

[@HELLH0WND]

@@Astro95Media ok, now I see it. Thanks!

[@Astro95Media]

@@HELLH0WND No problem!

[@CentralPASpotter]

Awesome!

[@Astro95Media]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@88hheKIAHSpotting]

nice bro

[@EL15E]

I miss the Boeing 747 so much and now I'm crying.

[@Astro95Media]

Thankfully these will be in service for many years to come!

[@johno7564]

My first Boeing plane was a 757 which then later that year transitioned to the 767. Actually worked on a 727-200 a few times. My first experience with the 747 began with a 200PF without any powered rollers on the cargo deck.

[@fishordie1992]

​@@johno7564the powered rollers and smart wheel are good-when they work. The dash 8's are nice if the nose wheels are out as you can shut them off at the panel by the cargo door. Some of those lease carrier wheels, I think they are called Ancra or something, are highly dangerous. They never work and when they do, you run the risk of getting run over because their arm procedure is all out of whack. You're better off shutting it off and just pushing. I'm too old to take chances anymore.

[@johnedwards5516]

Love it, and love the fact that they can’t do the same with the a380. I wonder how much airbus lost over that deal

[@Astro95Media]

It was probably quite a bit. I'm sure they'd hoped against hope that the A380 would be a suitable freighter like the 747, but the numbers just never added up.

[@johno7564]

Ive seen media utilizing an interior elevator to raise ULDs to the upper level. Its too much work and too expensive.

[@willamisbezerra1292]

Muito bom o Vídeo

[@Astro95Media]

Muito Obrigado! Tivemos um excelente momento para filmá-lo!

[@willamisbezerra1292]

Astro95Media Eu Acredito! Amo aviões ; Ainda farei meu Primeiro Vôo kkk Seus Vídeos São Ótimos.

[@Astro95Media]

Muito apreciado! Ainda temos de pilotar um 747, mas vamos chegar lá algum dia. Enquanto isso, agradecemos poder capturar sua beleza de perto!

[@willamisbezerra1292]

Astro95Media Muito Legal amigo Faz Mais Vídeos

[@Astro95Media]

Mais por vir! Fique de olho!

[@samuelcosta1263]

I am very curious to know what these companies carry in these orders, do you have any ideas? great video

[@Astro95Media]

It varies wildly. Seen them carry perishables like fresh flowers, cherries and live iguanas, as well as heavy cargo like telescopic joints, gas treatment equipment and even helicopters. If someone needs it moved and can pay the price tag, they'll haul it (within safe parameters, of course).

[@samuelcosta1263]

@@Astro95Media 😯 thank you ;)

[@Astro95Media]

@@samuelcosta1263 Sure thing!

[@johno7564]

My first time with the 747, containers full of pineapples.

[@dosx]

Does the latter in any way interfere with the load. What happens when the aircraft is full and you’re trying to bring down the latter? just curious

[@Astro95Media]

It's retractable so they just move it up into the ceiling when they need to transition a pallet beneath it. But the pallets are secured in positions which don't interfere with the ladder being down, so once the load is in place, they just pull it back down.

[@dosx]

Astro95Media I see. Thanks.

[@johnkuykendall4308]

They wait until we're all upstairs, then they pull it up and trap us up there. It folds up a lot like a ceiling access ladder. There is a big T bar type utensil that you can see hanging next the main cabin door at 2:25 that they use to pull it down from the stowed position.

[@oubrioko]

@@johnkuykendall4308 Isn't it a pain to lug your rollaboard suitcase and flight bags up and down that steep ladder?

[@johnkuykendall4308]

Usually you leave your bags next to the stairs and the loadmaster straps them down. You only take your kitbag and personal stuff up. If you’re carrying livestock though.... it all goes up!

[@cameraman655]

Nice, fresh perspective, I suspect that they would not allow you onto the cargo deck or would they?

[@Astro95Media]

Yeah they would but I try to stay out of the way while big pieces are moving. I was on the ramp taking photos during the initial loading and climbed back aboard when they had it inside.

[@edwardrclrcl4487]

How do you get this job????? Like :Loader , Ramp Agent or what????? And why its so difficoult to get??????

[@BlueSky......]

if a jumbo jet is this small then how can you even fit in a 737

[@Astro95Media]

isaac douget The wise angle of the camera lens skews the perspective of the jet. The 747 is massive.

[@edwardrclrcl4487]

How do you get this job????? Whats the name of the position..??? Like: Loader , Ramp Agent or what????? How can you apply & do you need a valid drivers license to do this??? And why its so difficoult to get??????

[@Astro95Media]

Not sure of the exact titles but you have to apply through the airport's cargo service company (they vary from field to field). You definitely have to go through a background check and eventually proper equipment training for all of this.

[@gabrielkwiecinskiantunes8950]

So this is how they feed the planes.

[@fishordie1992]

Interesting way to nose load as far as the k loader goes. We always use the bridge against the nose.

[@oldfrend]

'interesting' is putting it mildly. 'wildly dangerous' would be more accurate. me AND my supervisor probably would've been fired if we'd pulled up the k loader like this at UPS.

[@tigros40208]

@@oldfrend Yeah, I dont get why they are doing it like that. Having someone ride the elevator up is a huge no-no. OSHA would lose their mind at that stuff. I thought it might be a different type of loader but those are the same ones we got up here in SDF. Pulling up to the nose would be a nightmare.

[@johno7564]

Yes, usually that's the procedure. DeckLoader bridge stays close to the plane while the elevator works as designed to lift and lower

[@fishordie1992]

​@@oldfrendIf there is no 20 ft pallet, then what's the point of even nose loading. This procedure makes zero sense.

[@oldfrend]

@@fishordie1992 even with a 20ft pallet it's not necessary. the side door has special controls to turn a 20ft pallet. it's only necessary when loading something longer than 20ft.

[@edwardrclrcl4487]

How do you get this job????? Like :Loader , Ramp Agent or what????? And why its so difficoult to get??????

[@Astro95Media]

I was just on site documenting the loading (was working as an aviation training developer at the time). But I believe it's WFS who employs the loaders. Not sure what the application process is like but companies like that are the ones to talk to.

[@edwardrclrcl4487]

@@Astro95Media Thanks for the info !!🤗 Will try to apply tru WFS (in UK or Spain prob)

[@retiaryworm4714]

EdwardRCL RCL just apply anywhere to be a cargo ramp agent and you’ll learn all the equipment

[@grahamjohnknowles8077]

I don't think this loading was in Hong Kong. For really fast and efficient 747 loading, better you should visit Cargolux in Luxembourg.

[@Astro95Media]

It was in Houston.

[@johno7564]

Im surprised if Boeing hasn't put out operating requirements that airlines need to follow to utilize their A/C.

[@Astro95Media]

In what way?

[@johno7564]

@@Astro95Media Boeing designed the plane. Pretty sure they'd make recommendations.

[@johno7564]

Oh crap, 07/12/2023 someone offloaded an SUV from a 747. Driving it out the front cargo hatch onto a deck loader. I know it can be done, safely. The reason to put cargo on a pallet is to ease the cleanup in case something goes wrong.

[@oldfrend]

what kinda unsafe bullshit is this? you're supposed to pull up the FRONT of the loader to the plane, not the back. the front (called the bridge) has guard rails so people don't fall off the plane or the loader. you can see it at the beginning of the video on the left. the dude walking around the deck as it's being raised would be a MAJOR safety violation where i work. also if they pull up the front, that means the back is away from the aircraft and the tug driver can pull up and drop off cargo straight onto the back instead of pulling up to the side and almost hitting the crew stairs. these idiots have no idea what they're doing. they're using the loader to push the pallet onto the plane, rubbing against the floor wheels the whole way. you can hear the screeching everytime the pallet moves. those wheels are powered and the control panel with the joystick at the right entrance of the plane can command the wheels to pull the pallet in and automatically push it right or left as needed. also i'm curious why you would ever center load a 747, especially since where they loaded the pallet it doesn't have side locks to keep it from shifting sideways. source: i work for UPS and i've operated the cargo loader thousands of times, including loading 747-8Fs.

[@Astro95Media]

I never noticed that they had the loader backwards for this one. They've always had it the other way during previous visits I've made. As for the center load, I've seen that done for pallet loads which can't be secured on either side. Dozens, if not hundreds of straps are used to secure it in place. There are other videos on my channel which show this in action, particularly with the telescopic joints in 2013/2014.