Cauchy Schwarz Proof

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Dr Peyam

Dr Peyam

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@cipicm
@cipicm 2 жыл бұрын
even after 5 years this video is a masterpiece regarding the clearness of this proof. with no english background in mathematics it was still so easy to understand. thank you a lot.
@MarkJay
@MarkJay 7 жыл бұрын
"What is love?" -Dr. Peyam
@shaunderoza2321
@shaunderoza2321 7 жыл бұрын
The one dislike must from someone who saw the words "discriminant" and "inequality" and got offended.
@StreuB1
@StreuB1 6 жыл бұрын
BEST COMMENT EVER!! LOL No time for snowflakes in mathematics. We've all business here.
@forklift1712
@forklift1712 5 жыл бұрын
probably from people who can't appreciate Dr. Peyam's enthusiasm
@letladisebesho4503
@letladisebesho4503 5 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent, clear proof. Now I finally get it. Thank you 🙏🏽
@duckymomo7935
@duckymomo7935 6 жыл бұрын
In France, it’s called Cauchy inequality In Germany, it’s Schwarz inequality In Russia, it’s just inequality 😂 LOL
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@syahimiafiq5914
@syahimiafiq5914 5 жыл бұрын
Well Russian called it Bunyakovsky inequality
@jamesclerkmaxwell676
@jamesclerkmaxwell676 5 жыл бұрын
Syahimi Afiq cauchy was his doctoral advisor. My two cents
@alexeybekasov4298
@alexeybekasov4298 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, Bunyakovsky published it 25 years earlier than Schwarz.. ;)
@joshuafreeman9532
@joshuafreeman9532 4 жыл бұрын
Nope in France its Cauchy-Schwarz
@vukstojiljkovic7181
@vukstojiljkovic7181 6 жыл бұрын
I love this proof dude! I was confused with the proof that they presented to me on the university, but this one, i love it. Keep making math videos, maybe i will join you in the near future!
@jamesclerkmaxwell676
@jamesclerkmaxwell676 5 жыл бұрын
"it's better than watching TV " 😂 I love you Prof. Tough crowd
@rubentuquerrez
@rubentuquerrez 7 жыл бұрын
I'v neve liked the proyections proof, but I love this one. I discover this by myself while I was studying for an exam. This was awesome. Thanks for the video Dr Peyam!
@datboi_wild1222
@datboi_wild1222 6 жыл бұрын
Still dont get it. Im teaching myself quantum physics and im learning linear algebra in order to do that but i cant seem to understand this. Im in 8th grade btw. Dumb it down.
@nilsdula7693
@nilsdula7693 5 жыл бұрын
You need to let your brain time to develop.
@thedoublehelix5661
@thedoublehelix5661 3 жыл бұрын
@@datboi_wild1222 did you figure it out now?
@datboi_wild1222
@datboi_wild1222 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedoublehelix5661 lol, ya
@tlhomotsemoteme2423
@tlhomotsemoteme2423 5 жыл бұрын
I am writing in 5 hrs and I needed you to boost my confidence. Thank you.
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck!!!
@afifakimih8823
@afifakimih8823 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a regular viewer of Dr. Peyam...his derivation methods are always unique.!!
@randywilton3466
@randywilton3466 3 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing proof! Way easier to understand than the one my real analysis prof gave us. Thank you
@mokouf3
@mokouf3 4 жыл бұрын
The camera man is actually blackpenredpen!
@StreamsofEdification
@StreamsofEdification 3 жыл бұрын
Aggredd
@jeanlucas2834
@jeanlucas2834 3 ай бұрын
I recognized instantly
@chessislife3429
@chessislife3429 6 жыл бұрын
Wow!! You get so many people that have same interest and passion as you, so fortunate
@RealEverythingComputers
@RealEverythingComputers 4 ай бұрын
At 1:40 when you show the summation of the dot product, do you mean i in superscript or subscript because its done in superscript in the video which confuses me with an exponent. Your clarification will be much appreciated. thx
@drandrewsanchez
@drandrewsanchez 7 жыл бұрын
Great work! I love the way you speak!
@emanuellandeholm5657
@emanuellandeholm5657 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I can find out, Cauchy-Schwarz seems to hold for, not just real inner product spaces, and not just complex inner product spaces, but for all vector spaces! Please correct me if I'm uneducated! :)
@lamequemaciel6412
@lamequemaciel6412 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, professor! I was search the proof of Schwarz inequality for the context of Quantum Mechanics, mean that we can to use the complex space. But, I appreciate your proof.
@abratumwe
@abratumwe 3 жыл бұрын
07:08 I didn't understand that part, we also have quadratic curves with positive answers only 🤔😕 What if the polynomial of t is only positive?
@abratumwe
@abratumwe 3 жыл бұрын
You meant negative in y?
@richardjamieson7548
@richardjamieson7548 4 жыл бұрын
In step i of the proof t is defined to be an element of the Real Numbers. In the final step of the proof the the discriminant is said to be negative. That implies t is a complex number. Contradiction? Rik
@sdmartens22
@sdmartens22 7 жыл бұрын
Very impressive video as always, i wish you would do some damage on more advanced topics; the world needs you there.
@stevenbi7495
@stevenbi7495 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this before Linear Algebra Final!!! Absolutely love this proof!!
@ayushdudhani
@ayushdudhani 5 жыл бұрын
But sometimes after taking square roots inequality sign changes doesn't it??
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 5 жыл бұрын
No, things are positive here
@ayushdudhani
@ayushdudhani 5 жыл бұрын
@@drpeyam not getting can u explain it in detail
@bluemonk9480
@bluemonk9480 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why the proof suddenly decides to look towards the discriminant. It makes sense to use it since it guarantees that b^2 - 4ac
@josephinell314
@josephinell314 4 ай бұрын
Such an elegant proof! Thank you for sharing.
@Loathepotion
@Loathepotion 7 жыл бұрын
This was good-you kinda didn't address the part where you wrote out a piece (cut off for some reason)but good stuff.
@arjunnarasimhan8027
@arjunnarasimhan8027 2 жыл бұрын
What was your thought process behind Step 1? How did you get (u+tv)(u+tv)?
@pheasant139
@pheasant139 Жыл бұрын
Very elegant proof. Easy to understand. Thank you!
@loganreina2290
@loganreina2290 7 жыл бұрын
We were JUST proving this for homework in my honors calc class for our homework! Neat!
@TruongNguyen-pl9cd
@TruongNguyen-pl9cd 4 жыл бұрын
why can u use the disciminant ? and why it have to be less then 0
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 жыл бұрын
That’s the magical part about the proof. And it’s negative because otherwise there would be 2 roots, so at least somewhere the function would be negative
@TruongNguyen-pl9cd
@TruongNguyen-pl9cd 4 жыл бұрын
@@drpeyam okay but how can I explain in my proof ? We just can use the discriminant ? Same like we use root and so on ?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 жыл бұрын
If you want do a contradiction. You have a quadratic function in t, and if the discriminant is positive then you would have 2 roots, which gives a contradiction etc
@NabeelMustafaSMM
@NabeelMustafaSMM 6 жыл бұрын
please make video on Minkowski inequality ..I really missed that
@RealEverythingComputers
@RealEverythingComputers 4 ай бұрын
Great video! That was a really darn good proof!
@fellipetoffolo4226
@fellipetoffolo4226 3 жыл бұрын
very nice, but wouldn't the complex values of t contradict something? Or its okay because (u+tv)(u+tv) is the norm of something, thus will be real anyway?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 3 жыл бұрын
This proof is for real spaces only
@fellipetoffolo4226
@fellipetoffolo4226 3 жыл бұрын
ok, thank you Dr
@sandnstars8
@sandnstars8 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the notation! It helped a lot!
@drandrewsanchez
@drandrewsanchez 7 жыл бұрын
I have a question. By listing the three inequalities regarding the descriminant, aren't you fixing the vectors in R2. Would this proof still be valid for vectors in R3 or RN?
@TheRedfire21
@TheRedfire21 7 жыл бұрын
yes since you are only working on the real plane; modulus of u and v are real numbers, the dot product of u.v are real numbers, and t is an scalar.
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 7 жыл бұрын
SanCHEneering It's valid in all of R^n :) The polynomial is quadratic, but the vectors u and v are in R^n
@leonardromano1491
@leonardromano1491 7 жыл бұрын
Do they need to explicitly be in R^n? Wouldn't it be sufficient to be on a real-scalar-product-space?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 7 жыл бұрын
That's correct, it works on any real inner product space!
@avdrago7170
@avdrago7170 6 жыл бұрын
A way that I thought to prove this inequality when looking at the thumbnail is that with the the angle between two vectors x, cos(x)=|u * v|/(||u||||v||). So, |u*v|= cos(x)||u|| ||v||. Now, |cos(x)| is always less than or equal to 1, so when you multiply it to a separate quantity, you are scaling that quantity such that it is less than or equal to its original value. So, in the end, |u*v| is less than or equal to ||u|| ||v||
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 6 жыл бұрын
Your method only works in R^n, unfortunately
@avdrago7170
@avdrago7170 6 жыл бұрын
Dr. Peyam's Show ? How does this matter
@aliyss
@aliyss 6 жыл бұрын
​@@avdrago7170 --> I think ​ Dr. Peyam's Show meant R^2.
@minyhailabera3616
@minyhailabera3616 4 жыл бұрын
the proof was short and understandable way.Thanks a lot.
@starfire8679
@starfire8679 3 жыл бұрын
Really great video!! ❤And your great personality makes everything so interesting and fun 👌
@lLl-fl7rv
@lLl-fl7rv 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot man!! You saved my life one day before my final exam xD
@railgun.__.7055
@railgun.__.7055 5 жыл бұрын
Luckily we do not have to prove it in high school. (It was a question in AL Pure Maths)
@LegendOfMurray
@LegendOfMurray 7 жыл бұрын
great proof, Dr. Peyam!
@TheRedfire21
@TheRedfire21 7 жыл бұрын
hi peynam could you proof this by definition of the dot product? or does it restrict your proof? ex: |u.v| = (by definition) ||u|| ||v|| cos@ ≤ (since cos@ is between 0 and 1) ||u|| ||v||
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 7 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Cor Your proof is correct, but only works in R^2; this proof is valid for more general dot products!
@leonardromano1491
@leonardromano1491 7 жыл бұрын
Actually the angle is defined through the Cauchy-Schwarz-Inequality so you can't define it the other way around. ( |uv|≤||u|| ||v|| -> -1≤uv/(||u|| ||v||) ≤ 1 and -1≤cos(phi)≤1 so there exists an open set U where for all phi in U cos(phi)=uv/(||u|| ||v||) ) The Proof only works for real Dotproducts because complex ones also conjugate the left vector.
@tmogoreanu
@tmogoreanu 7 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video with Newton-Leibniz formula proof?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 7 жыл бұрын
Anatolie Mogoreanu The proof of the product rule? I think you've read my mind, because it's coming on Friday :)
@tmogoreanu
@tmogoreanu 7 жыл бұрын
Actually I meant the definite integral calculation formula F(b)-F(a)
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 7 жыл бұрын
Ooooh, the FTC!!! It's on my to-do list :P
@tmogoreanu
@tmogoreanu 7 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks in advance)
@sunbreezy3935
@sunbreezy3935 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. This is an excellent clear proof. Is there any chance that you could also do a proof of the Minkowski inequality.
@fardinzaman904
@fardinzaman904 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much . Absolutely clear and easy . You saved me
@mathunt1130
@mathunt1130 3 жыл бұрын
You can reduce the proof to a line using geometric algebra.
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 3 жыл бұрын
How?
@mathunt1130
@mathunt1130 3 жыл бұрын
@@drpeyam Simply take two vectors U and V and examine the product (UV)(VU) and expand using the geometric product. In a few simple steps (on one line) you get |U|^2|V|^2=(U.V)^2+|UxV|^2>= (U.V)^{2}
@joudy5767
@joudy5767 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t thank you enough!! Excellent proof :)
@Zhinoi
@Zhinoi Жыл бұрын
This is a really nice and neat proof
@danieledwin8927
@danieledwin8927 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to prove it for two real numbers are you allowed to say the numbers are just vectors with one component? If not make a video with the proof for the case for two numbers, preferrably from the axioms
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 3 жыл бұрын
For real numbers the statement is trivial, it becomes |ab|
@sweetychaudhary277
@sweetychaudhary277 2 жыл бұрын
thanks 😊 your video help me a lot to understand this proof ☺️
@kenmeyer100
@kenmeyer100 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, someone who actually pronounces both names correctly
@favoriteflavor46
@favoriteflavor46 6 ай бұрын
camera man just watches like others in that room.
@DavidPumpernickel
@DavidPumpernickel 3 жыл бұрын
dank, this works for non-euclidean metrics, too
@syahimiafiq5914
@syahimiafiq5914 5 жыл бұрын
I've show my cat this proof Now she still a cat
@gabrielnegrini8889
@gabrielnegrini8889 10 ай бұрын
amazing explanation
@alimghazzawi3700
@alimghazzawi3700 4 жыл бұрын
At first glims i thought of course it’s smaller or equal because the dot product value equals the multiplication of the brooms times cos theta and cos theta its biggest value 1 and smallest value is-1 but i dont know of course there is a reason why this isn’t a valid proof i don’t understand high level algebra i am an engineer student.
@michaelsohnen6526
@michaelsohnen6526 7 жыл бұрын
why not start a proof from the fact that "A dot B = ||A|| ||B|| cos(theta)" ?
@michaelsohnen6526
@michaelsohnen6526 7 жыл бұрын
we know -1
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 7 жыл бұрын
No, this only works in R2; my proof works in Rn and more!
@michaelsohnen6526
@michaelsohnen6526 7 жыл бұрын
Dr. Peyam's Show thanks!
@luizr.8316
@luizr.8316 7 жыл бұрын
Divertido e fantástico! Parabéns pelo trabalho!
@MathematicsMadeSimple1
@MathematicsMadeSimple1 2 жыл бұрын
Good presentation!
@aryammlg6833
@aryammlg6833 5 жыл бұрын
Great proof, but it would be even better if u had gone over the equality case and shown that it only happens when one is a scalar multiple of the other 👍💕💕
@ndriqa
@ndriqa 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! Great channel ❤️
@boydmwansa8750
@boydmwansa8750 11 ай бұрын
Very nice proof indeed so easy to understand
@varungoyal4732
@varungoyal4732 6 жыл бұрын
thanks alot Dr Peyam. this video helped me alot.
@vijay85321
@vijay85321 7 ай бұрын
I got a little but happy to see the proof!
@pibeeulotro9603
@pibeeulotro9603 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful proof, thanks.
@stevekaszycki8629
@stevekaszycki8629 5 жыл бұрын
neat proof! and it comes with at least two bad puns.
@mokoepa
@mokoepa 3 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful... Perfection...
@abstractalien12345
@abstractalien12345 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Greetings from Chicago :)
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 5 жыл бұрын
The city of Lou Malnati’s 😋😋😋
@PervezAli112
@PervezAli112 7 жыл бұрын
sir its awesome proof
@MrJapogm
@MrJapogm 7 жыл бұрын
This channel is also very cool
@jennifera.3208
@jennifera.3208 8 ай бұрын
very good explanation :)
@malicksoumare370
@malicksoumare370 7 жыл бұрын
amazing! The other proofs are just incomprehensible
@mihlalimjacu6984
@mihlalimjacu6984 2 жыл бұрын
thank you sir this is so much clear☺
@joshuafreeman9532
@joshuafreeman9532 4 жыл бұрын
absolute genius
@OmarOmar-cj9rk
@OmarOmar-cj9rk 5 жыл бұрын
هل تتكلم اللغة العربية؟
@joudy5767
@joudy5767 4 жыл бұрын
نعم
@OmarOmar-cj9rk
@OmarOmar-cj9rk 4 жыл бұрын
لقد مضى على هذا التعليق عام، وها أنت ذا يا joudy تستمتع بمشاهدة هذا المقطع الممتع. وفقك الله وسهل لك طريقا تلتمس فيه علما نافعا.
@伊藤暉人-s6w
@伊藤暉人-s6w 4 жыл бұрын
数学が世界共通言語って感じがして最高。普段コーシーシュワルツの不等式、と書いていますが英字で書きたいなと思い英語で検索しました。高校生です
@jonsnow9246
@jonsnow9246 6 жыл бұрын
More videos on Maths!
@vecter
@vecter 7 жыл бұрын
That's a great proof and all but what in god's name motivated that initial formula to begin with? This is what makes people think math is so inaccessible. Once you come up with that formula, everything else is just algebra, but no insight is given into the intuition or meaning behind the original key formula.
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 7 жыл бұрын
It's actually extremely useful in Analysis and Partial Differential Equations when you want to estimate the product of two things! Basically, think of it as follows: For a function f, let ||f|| = the square root of the integral of (f(x))^2, which you can think of as the 'energy' of f. Similarly we can define the energy of g, and finally define f . g = integral of f(x) g(x), which you can think of as the 'interaction' between f and g. Now suppose that f and g have finite energies, that is ||f|| < oo and ||g|| < oo, then the C-S inequality says that |f.g|
@vecter
@vecter 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that lengthy reply! I wasn't talking about the CS inequality itself which is immensely useful, I'm talking about the formula you introduce at 3:00. That is a black magic equation from which the proof magically falls out. What is the motivation or intuition behind the starting point of this proof?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, I see! I agree, I did kinda pull it out of my hat, which makes the proof magical :P But I guess the intuition is that you want some inequality involving u and v, and that formula provides us with a good starting point!
@vecter
@vecter 7 жыл бұрын
Surely there must be some geometric intuition behind it also? I'll think more about it, but the intuition you just mentioned isn't really much of an answer tbh. I feel like the key ideas behind proofs always have some intuition behind them, which is what originally drove the person who dicovered that proof.
@0x8055
@0x8055 7 жыл бұрын
it dare saying it comes from phisics as dr peyam stated. im my engeneering classes as good as 15yrs ago i remember thinking something like "thats obvious, u always lose some energy on the interaction". so as phisics is a good client for math its good to have vectors abeying cs inequality.
@inthebackwiththerabbish
@inthebackwiththerabbish 4 жыл бұрын
8:12 baby don't hurt me
@azizketata3241
@azizketata3241 2 жыл бұрын
i like your energy .
@witthawasphanthawimol5534
@witthawasphanthawimol5534 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much😊
@hazza6915
@hazza6915 6 жыл бұрын
Thinking about the square root step. x^2=y^2 doesn’t necessarily imply x=y
@andreaLA222
@andreaLA222 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@NabeelMustafaSMM
@NabeelMustafaSMM 6 жыл бұрын
excellent way
@martinsaidi1303
@martinsaidi1303 3 жыл бұрын
neatly done, heyy!!
@ronoguern
@ronoguern 4 жыл бұрын
You are great! Thanks!
@ketara1234od
@ketara1234od 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU !
@souverain1er
@souverain1er 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@chelangatedwin6112
@chelangatedwin6112 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍 your the best
@jgoep2310
@jgoep2310 5 жыл бұрын
You're great!
@joshuafreeman9532
@joshuafreeman9532 4 жыл бұрын
mind frickin blown
@fredericchopin255
@fredericchopin255 6 жыл бұрын
9:17 no supreme t-shirt mmmm
@fountainovaphilosopher8112
@fountainovaphilosopher8112 7 жыл бұрын
Hello!
@rasikajayathilaka3516
@rasikajayathilaka3516 4 жыл бұрын
He was very good!
@wreza97
@wreza97 3 жыл бұрын
WooooooW 🙏❤️
@couldia_chan6310
@couldia_chan6310 Жыл бұрын
GOOD!我靠,这证明可以,挺好的。
@teshh_958
@teshh_958 Жыл бұрын
its a great show im happy😅😅
@koungmeng
@koungmeng 5 жыл бұрын
wow blackpenredpen is in your vdo nice
@algonte
@algonte 5 жыл бұрын
Bravo
@anavictoriaarmas3184
@anavictoriaarmas3184 6 жыл бұрын
OMG, I love you
@arthurlbn
@arthurlbn 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing nice
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