CBC Winnipeg Jets move to Phoenix 1996

[@brycemcneil4404]

8:59 Accounting for inflation, that's an over $124K gate for an IHL game in 2024 dollars.

[@rrdd6808]

Towards the end of the video,, Jerry Colangelo said he anticipated that it would be a very successful franchise. It was an absolute failure from the time they arrived to the time they left. Pretty much being forced out of Arizona. As someone who was born and raised in Winnipeg and and fan of the Jets at that time, I don't know what the NHL was thinking. I get that the dollar was weak and it was a small market, but no effort was put in to save the team by the NHL, yet they did everything possible for the Coyotes. Just because its a big city, doesn't mean its a big market for hockey

[@sjdrifter72]

Gary Bettman forced the team to stay in Arizona by any means possible because he loves the advertising revenue. His kind only cares about the money and nothing but. He didn't care that Phoenix is a terrible sports market with bandwagon fans who only show up if the team makes the playoffs. And the hard reality is that most of the people that went to the games were transplants who never cheered for the Coyotes but rather the visiting team.

[@JCMoney]

I think I might be one of the few Canadians who wants the NHL to stay in Phoenix. I still think it has potential. I think Atlanta is a lost cause though personally.

[@phxmaster9684]

JCMoney thanks for the support A proud coyotes fan

[@chriswoodsports]

I hope they stay in Arizona, however they really need (for a long time) a new arena of there own.

[@jamaljackson299]

@@chriswoodsports they own gila River arena?

[@reaganbush5686]

You must be drunk If you think Pheonix is a suitable place for hockey

[@reaganbush5686]

@@chriswoodsports Pheonix is a foolish place for hockey team

[@simonmarshall19]

I’m thankful that the Jet came back home in 2011 !

[@deneshbhaskar]

they didnt come home.... DIFFERENT franchise. U stole atlantas team... Ur team is in coyotes... winnipeg is lucky.

[@Jiltedin2007]

Because the NHL made the same mistake putting a team in Atlanta, which did not work well when the Flames left for Calgary before the Thrashers came to town. Basically Winnipeg, you benefited from an NHL foul up.

[@kylepiccoli4762]

They should do one of these stories on their anticipated move to Utah

[@jamesw.pickering2967]

And now the Coyotes are moving to Utah!

[@IVR02]

Its definitely interesting to watch this now, less than a week removed from the Coyotes' final game and just a few months ahead of their move to Utah.

[@brandongrenier436]

Big mistake - they should’ve never moved

[@tazjoplin1733]

Grassroots movements in hockey has sky rocketed because of the move. Def wasn’t a mistake. Canada doesn’t own a sport.

[@EveryoneIsAnIdiotExceptForMe]

​@tazjoplin1733 Yet America owns every sport, right? Typical entitled American.

[@DannyGoldingTV]

6:34 Chuck was right lol.

[@brycemcneil4404]

Chuck knew and knows his hockey and he was spot on that the market was taking on a lot quickly. In 1993, you had one of the big four. By 1998, you had all four...that was a lot to add to the market in a short period of time.

[@donsperrazza2151]

This is rough I admire you folks in winnepeg for putting up with this

[@Ryguy-lg2xz]

Don Sperrazza And they were rewarded for their dedication in 2011

[@JUVI9596]

27 years ago. Still a train wreck.

[@Cardsgirl13]

Well apparently none of you know much about Coyote Hockey. I went to almost every game last season and the fan base is way bigger than you all think. Just last week the team hosted a prospect camp, which was held during the week day but managed to have sanding room only because there were so many people. I saw pictures from other organizations, including Detroit and Chicago and none of them had more than 100 people at them. If people started to follow the Coyotes maybe they would see,,

[@JUVI9596]

I went to a coyotes game in 2015. There was 3000 people there. It was the most empty arena I’ve ever been to. Btw I’m from Winnipeg. You were saying?

[@deneshbhaskar]

U GUYS R MOVING LOLLL yeah u cant fill a 5k college arena... kellaer wants OUT

[@jprincered]

Putting an NHL team in a non traditional market is always a gamble, but I truly believe that when the Coyotes started playing in 1996, they were popular, and they routinely sold out America West Arena. But, as we know, the arena was not built with hockey in mind. It was only designed for basketball. In order to get a hockey rink fitted in the arena, a bunch of seats had to be taken out of use on one side of the arena. People sitting in that area could only see from the blue line up towards center ice and beyond, it brought the seating capacity down to 16,210, and it made the scoreboard look off centered. Because of this, the Coyotes wanted to have a proper arena built, but the powers that be who ran the arena wanted to keep them playing at America West permanently. The powers that be were also going to have the obstructed side remodeled so that there wouldn't be anymore obstructed seating. But the Yotes continued on with there own arena plans to have it built in Glendale. That was the start of the downfall. Bad ownership making poor decisions also didn't help either. The NHL and Gary Bettman for that matter, have been to soft on the Yotes for way too long. This year, something has to give. Either they finally can build an arena somewhere in the east valley or get them the out of Arizona and into a makert that will except them.

[@christophereyrich3263]

ur totally right.

[@brycemcneil4404]

The records don't show that they "routinely sold out" AWA. But they did usually average a number near its "hockey capacity" (somewhere in the 16K range). I agree with you that they would have had better luck continuing in AWA, though. I actually think going over 17K capacity for the market was a mistake: You need enough seats to make it a major league proposition but "small enough" to be a tough ticket. A 16-17K seat arena either in downtown Phoenix or Scottsdale probably would have been the right recipe for a successful Coyotes franchise.

[@lakings65]

Moving the jets was a terrible decision

[@A.stallion27]

5200 attendance for the roadrunners 25+ years later same for coyotes in the University

[@postreading6889]

A bit of a misstep

[@SoPlayerLive]

@toastichedu. Your bang on. I can't believe how much has changed for Phoenix. Boom, Bust. Winnipeg is a place does not expereince highs and lows. Its pretty much pretty stable there all the time.

[@BlazeOfGlory742]

NHL shoulda never let them move but at least they are back.

[@DisneyStudioNetwork]

15 years later, Atlanta lost an NHL team and Winnipeg returns with great pride and great support!!!

[@hockeyrule8004]

And because of this Toronto have Auston Matthews

[@quadderboy123]

And Calgary has tkachuk.

[@musicman76enator]

Thank GOD that the Jets came back. Go Jets Go. 😄👏👏👏🏒🏒🏒

[@ituyfb]

The cbc guy's shot was worse than the arizona guy.

[@chriswoodsports]

Yet at one point he was a play by play Announcer for CBC doing hockey. His name is Mark Lee

[@GeneralBulldog54]

Did the Jets regain their history like the Browns when they came back?

[@Splanch]

No, it’s still technically the thrashers history

[@GeneralBulldog54]

@@Splanch That's a shame, so the old Jets/Coyotes have the city's history. Aint fair.

[@EveryoneIsAnIdiotExceptForMe]

But they should

[@rileykazama3145]

I hope the jets get their history back

[@UncleRosie]

Nobody up here ever forgot, but yes we’re able to celebrate the old franchise with the 2.0

[@kingofalaska23]

realistically both Arizona and Atlanta can support the NHL and you would be stupid not to think so. its all about ownership and not the fans.

[@notoriouseagle1074]

Compared to places like Houston or Salt Lake, no chance.

[@ontherez7860]

I still hate the jets/ peyotes for forcing the roadrunners out of town

[@Jiltedin2007]

At least The Sport of Hockey does survive "In The Desert", unlike some other city "In the Heart of Dixie" that has now lost TWO NHL Teams. Before the Coyotes came to town, the Kings had a Minor League Team playing in Phoenix. Stop making The City of Phoenix look naive towards NHL Hockey!

[@phxmaster9684]

Jiltedin2007 yes let’s go coy-otes

[@tonyc8752]

This comment aged poorly

[@Jiltedin2007]

Yeah, you got a point. Phoenix is definitely a Minor League Market, it has no business having an NHL Franchise. Maybe the Kings should relocate their Minor Leagues to Phoenix like they did before. But like I said, better Phoenix than Atlanta. Do you not agree?

[@Jiltedin2007]

Now how about if we can have NHL Teams in San Diego and Houston!

[@scaryhenski]

Because San Diego doesn’t care about hockey and California already has 3 NHL teams in very important markets Los Angeles, Anaheim and San Jose.

[@Jiltedin2007]

@@scaryhenski Oh really? Their Gulls was a Power House of a Minor League Team and they don’t give a care about Hockey in San Diego?

[@scaryhenski]

@@Jiltedin2007San Diego can’t keep a team, they loss the chargers and clippers and their hockey market won’t be as strong, the NHL does not want to lose money going to a city where they keep losing teams.

[@Jiltedin2007]

@@scaryhenski Like Atlanta, for example? First they lost the Flames to Calgary, the they lose the Thrashers to Winnipeg and became the Jets.

[@scaryhenski]

@@Jiltedin2007 Atlanta loss two hockey teams because in Atlanta they don’t care much about hockey but as you can see they still have their Basketball, Baseball and Football team, San Diego loss two teams from two different sports, that alone tells you hockey won’t do well in San Diego.

[@Indigenous_Rambo]

The problem is glendale is like 2 hours away from phoenix

[@jbtrains]

islesoilesfan not that far, though it’s a very very inconvenient drive. Especially seeing how most fans live about an hour from Glendale, 30 minutes from Phoenix.

[@MrTommyg024]

Quebec, Southern Ontario, Connecticut, Milwaukee, Seattle and Portland would make MUCH better markets for the NHL than Phoenix. Sorry, but that's the way it is. You can BUILD a fanbase if you win consistently (see: Nashville), but that's hard to do for anyone. Especially in leagues where there are salary caps.

[@DisneyStudioNetwork]

Seattle will get a team in 2021

[@FischerFan]

@@DisneyStudioNetwork Seattle should've got the Coyotes via relocation; but the NHL is too greedy.

[@MemoriesDestroyUs]

They never deserved that team. Winnipeg did. We got a team back as a fuck you. The REAL whiteout. A team that makes the playoffs. Hockey in the desert lol ps give the jets the rights to their history back. It means more to Winnipeg fans than the empty arena in the desert

[@SoPlayerLive]

Puckhead. If it wasn't for Gary Bettman and his band of 30 idiots paying the bills for the Coyotes. The team would not be there. You guys should be happy the commisioner is will to save your team at any cost. I do hope you guys keep the team and make it work. I would like to come there one day and see a game.

[@Noah-ey5zf]

1 of the puck/ball boys are correct on roughing by saying referee but shooting the puck? no.

[@SoPlayerLive]

I believe the Coyotes did alot better when they played downtown at the America West Arena. But the Arena was not designed for hockey. Funny story. Gerry Colangelo was asked Gary Bettmen during the the construction of the building if the NHL would ever come here. Gary said not in your lifetime. So they built it only for basketball. A year and Half later he called Colangelo back and said he has 2 businessmen wanted to move their team to his arena.

[@phxmaster9684]

Peg City as a loyal coyotes fan I agree with this I go to Glendale as much as I can but it’s very far out

[@jh.4770]

One other thing. The L.A. Kings also played host to some neutral site games at the America West Arena. That was before the coyotes came into existence, and perhaps a big reason why there's hockey in Arizona. Also, one other note, the Kings are a reason why Vegas has a team too. For 20 years, they played host to a neutral site game in Vegas vs Colorado

[@556Outlaw]

This is the biggest joke in all of sports

[@azirish73]

CFL I agree...millions more watch a Superbowl commercial. Funny eh?

[@Ryguy-lg2xz]

556Outlaw 20 years later and nothing changed

[@mattm8108]

The team moved from a bad market to an even worse market 😅

[@DaVillaneseTycoon]

on-going Incompetent ownership will do that

[@nathanabraham4639]

Irony but learn from failing

[@DMC-qf1sm]

Beat thing happened to Arizona hooowl

[@BlazeOfGlory742]

J E T S JETS JETS JETS. Oh sorry wrong sport😂

[@ryanfriesen4366]

yep this move really saved the Jets 1.0, right? LOL idiots cant run this team, we have better owners and smarter ones now :)

[@SoPlayerLive]

It amazing how much things have changed in Phoenix in 2011 Boom Town - Not. Foreclosures galore, coroprate downsizing, unemployment I can't believe they are losing $40 MM a year. The Calgary Flames, one of the smallest markets in the league made $40 MM last year.

[@jbtrains]

Set TV Now Calgary is as large as Phoenix almost....

[@wiedep]

Hunter looks like Peter Keleghan's character Ranger Gord from Red Green show. Considering all the problems the Coyotes have had he's probably no smarter than Gord, eh?

[@BuffdatRatt]

Canada was pissssssed.

[@jared4walsh]

now there happy again if.

[@scaryhenski]

@@jared4walshnope they are still pissed no chip since 1993.

[@EveryoneIsAnIdiotExceptForMe]

​@@scaryhenskichip?

[@scaryhenski]

@@EveryoneIsAnIdiotExceptForMe no championship since 1993

[@EveryoneIsAnIdiotExceptForMe]

@@scaryhenski Funny how most players on American teams are Canadian

[@sabresman31]

This video makes me sick, I hate when hockey is in places like this.

[@ziggymorris8760]

Biggest mistake since Atlanta

[@Jiltedin2007]

Yeah, pretty much. The Suns dominate Phoenix Sports in the Winter Time. Only during Playoff Time do the Coyotes sell out. The Kings draw better than the Coyotes and it gets just as hot in Los Angeles as it does "In The Desert". Granted, neither city is like Detroit or Chicago, but at least they love and know their Hockey in Los Angeles, unlike Phoenix or San Jose(Another city that's a joke for the NHL).

[@ituyfb]

San Jose sells out every game what are you talking about?

[@DARK24-7]

I cant even watch this...

[@wildfoottv3217]

Lol look at the coyotes now 😂😂

[@JamieKingZang]

WildfootTV it’s amazing how much patience is a virtue and building a winning team. It’s amazing and the team is in a prime location; PHX, AZ

[@sjdrifter72]

@@tbfünke Ha Ha! Kicking ass and taking names AND NO ONE CARES! Half empty Gila River Arena mostly filled with fans of the opposing team. Meanwhile the present Jets always sell out in Winnipeg and it's always filled with Jets fans, not outsiders. Besides, AZ is not known for having genuine Coyotes fans, only bandwagoners.

[@EveryoneIsAnIdiotExceptForMe]

@@tbfünke Well everyone knows the Jets moving to Phoenix was a mistake soooo....

[@FischerFan]

@@sjdrifter72 I'm a Habs fan and I always enjoyed watching the Red Wings play the Die-yotes in the playoffs, not only because the Red Wings always knocked them out, but because the games in Arizona were, in effect, home games for the Wings!

[@TjSamson]

Very funny story.....

[@the95clown48]

Train wreck

[@asherrich2666]

I HATE Phoenix

[@orlanzo2621]

And Phoenix hates you.

[@asherrich2666]

the legend In 2011 My favourite team came back

[@mcdonaldchristian8273]

I HATE Phoenix too!

[@EveryoneIsAnIdiotExceptForMe]

They should've never left Winnipeg in the first place

[@893160007]

@robminmonaca They will be in Quebec next year, book it

[@jbtrains]

893160007 6 years later...

[@JamieKingZang]

Sooooooo....they in Quebec yet??

[@nate5859]

yo they in quebec yet?

[@Kevin-pp7ut]

With the exception of some teams, the Sun Belt has been a huge failure. If the Coyotes move to Hartford, I guarantee they'll be way more successful and popular than they are now! 🐳

[@blobulous3500]

should have moved them to seattle portland milwuakee saskatoon or minnesota. They all would have been better markets then phoenix. Minnesota because at the time minnesota had no team

[@ryanfriesen4366]

thre will be people tripping, elbowing roughing and swearing, and thats just people who want to see arizona win a home game for a change is more like it, what a pathetic team.

[@KaPTinKLuTcH]

Atlanta busted because no regular black person likes hockey.

[@robminmonaca]

bettman needs to wake up and move this team to Quebec or Hartford in the next couple of years hockey sucks in the desert move to the north

[@Ryguy-lg2xz]

If you don’t know what the hell the five hole is your city shouldn’t have a team this was stupid I’m glad that they have a team now sooner or later it should be Quebec’s turn

[@sjdrifter72]

Hopefully it won't 'survive' for much longer. This joke of a franchise has got to end/or relocate to a real hockey market. Think about it, all their glory years were spent in the WHA, a league that's been dead for 34 years. In their NHL existence as the Jets/Coyotes all they have is ONE division title? and prior to last season they went 25 years without winning one playoff series? Only one word to describe the Coyotes franchise : PATHETIC!

[@joshkusiak7613]

If u love the sports u want to succeed

[@FischerFan]

@@joshkusiak7613 People can love a sport; but that need not be correlated to the fact that the sport itself is not automatically destined to succeed everywhere.

[@QuebecSouverain95]

Go Nordiques Go!

[@mcdonaldchristian8273]

QuebecSouverain95 I hope you folks get your NHL team like us! I support more Canadian teams in NHL 😃