Carbon Tax rebate: Do you really get back more than you pay? | About That

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On April 1, Canada's carbon tax goes up. Again. But when you factor in the carbon tax rebate, do you end up getting back more than you pay? Andrew Chang breaks down the finances of the carbon tax and why the answer is more complicated than you think.
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@leonardstener9522
@leonardstener9522 8 ай бұрын
If 8 out of 10 families get more money back in rebate than they pay in tax, why was it necessary to pause carbon tax increases on home heating oil for Atlantic Canadians? Doesn’t the pause make them worse off?
@papaprankster101
@papaprankster101 8 ай бұрын
excellent point
@Walexo45
@Walexo45 8 ай бұрын
And the Liberals know they know need Atlantic voters, so they know Canadians are worse off with this tax. They know it.
@kwuiki23
@kwuiki23 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. They're just hypocrites. Nothing new about it.
@wetchicken2007
@wetchicken2007 8 ай бұрын
Because the Liberals on the east coast were under pressure. It's all political.
@JdjdbNdjdb
@JdjdbNdjdb 8 ай бұрын
its a lie. dont forget you pay carbon tax on groceries too
@stacymclean7286
@stacymclean7286 8 ай бұрын
Here's a thought. Fuel is used for the transportation of goods at every level of the supply chain and grocery stores will have to heat their stores. Carbon tax increases the cost of transportation and heating... do we really expect the corporations to absorb the cost of carbon taxes instead of passing it on to the consumers?
@nuxkamina
@nuxkamina 8 ай бұрын
If capitalism worked there would be competition in the market and a corporation that passed less onto consumers would be likely more profitable.
@FarmingGoneWild
@FarmingGoneWild 8 ай бұрын
If you watched the video the math works out to 0.15% that business pay more in costs. So a tiny tiny fraction of a percent of inflation is due to carbon tax. You goof
@tommyshanks4198
@tommyshanks4198 8 ай бұрын
​@@nuxkaminacapitalism works for consumers, but oligopolies do not.
@LunieGameTips
@LunieGameTips 8 ай бұрын
I don't think you understand what the purpose of the tax is. The tax isn't meant to change carbon producing behaviours. For the average citizien, this doesn't impact them even after business adjust for added cost because these people are getting money back to cover these offsets.
@stacymclean7286
@stacymclean7286 8 ай бұрын
@@FarmingGoneWild how's that measured? did you look into the report on all the assumptions made? or do you choose to believe what CBC tells you?
@lazerlorne2670
@lazerlorne2670 8 ай бұрын
Farm fuel isn't taxed, but fuel to heat barns, dry grain, heat green houses is taxed. You didn’t talk about that.
@johnbradley2879
@johnbradley2879 8 ай бұрын
That and farm fuel is only not taxed if you get it delivered, meaning to get the tax exemption a farmer has to spend more getting it delivered
@RockyAlajoki
@RockyAlajoki 7 ай бұрын
​@@johnbradley2879don't forget that the truck delivering fuel is BURNING fuel that most likely has a carbon tax on it, increasing the delivery costs FOR that farmers fuel.
@johnbradley2879
@johnbradley2879 7 ай бұрын
@@RockyAlajoki yup
@PaulBell-nn5lu
@PaulBell-nn5lu 7 ай бұрын
They ignored so much, purposely
@joeisawesome540
@joeisawesome540 5 ай бұрын
@@RockyAlajoki delivery cost is tiny.. Tiny...a few cents on every thousand you pay... For example, a typical long hauler carries about 20k kg of goods... and use about 50 liter per 100km... assuming 20 cents per litre of carbon tax... carry all that stuff for more than 3000km will cost you about 2 cents more per kg of goods.
@Vrag1
@Vrag1 8 ай бұрын
Dear CBC, explain to me how are long haul trucks supposed to stop their emissions? By not operating? There sure aren't emission free alternatives for those vehicles, are there? Or are we supposed to stop eating instead?
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 8 ай бұрын
Yes! If the rail companies can get their heads out of their asses: they should be able to handle the long-distance movement of goods. Since rails don't move: they can electrify quite easily without massive batteries (using overhead lines). The problem is that North American rail companies are currently obsessed with "precision scheduled railroading". This is a system of cost-cutting involving running overly long trains to save on infrastructure and staffing costs. The problems are: 1. Long trains no longer fit in sidings, so trains can't pass one another 2. Long trains get delayed, so staff are forced to work unpredictable hours 3. The lack of scheduling means that the railroads can only move low-value bulk freight.
@zen1647
@zen1647 8 ай бұрын
Maybe find ways that are more energy efficient: rail, using fuel efficient vehicles, minimising the weight of the load....
@GabLeGamer
@GabLeGamer 8 ай бұрын
​@@zen1647 if you minimize the weight of the load, you need more loads. 1500km takes around 500 litres of diesel at max legal weight. Empty I might be able to stretch it to 1800 km with the same amount of fuel. So if you have 160 000 lbs of goods to transport, 2 trucks at 80 000 lbs will burn less fuel than 4 trucks at 40 000lbs.
@michaelwilton8335
@michaelwilton8335 8 ай бұрын
@@jamesphillips2285 I think you need to consider alot of things before you just say that rail companies can electrify their trains.
@thegreenxeno9430
@thegreenxeno9430 8 ай бұрын
North American rail is responsible for a significant amount of carbon emissions. It may be an alternative in the future, but it is not a viable choice to reduce emissions today.
@gpgt1
@gpgt1 8 ай бұрын
Large businesses don't get carbon rebates, they pass the cost onto all consumers.
@toddpowers2936
@toddpowers2936 8 ай бұрын
this is covered by the rebate
@BudzzableRides
@BudzzableRides 8 ай бұрын
Taxpayers that make time payments receive NO REBATE. Great little scam to get out of paying the rebate.
@rh7163
@rh7163 8 ай бұрын
Large business's have CEO's who get bonus's which is deducted from the corporate tax being paid. Remember PM Harper ? Well, it was his corporate scheme to lower the corporate tax and did so even though nobody took to the streets to demand lower corporate taxes. A few weeks later, he came up with the scheme and premise to inform Canadians that Canada could no longer afford Canada Pension. That blew up in his face and now Poilivre is the next Corporate Messiah to run for PM which brings me to wonder who will pay for all the things that lower corporate taxes no longer pays for ? Well, higher taxes along with a higher deficit may be passed on while the banks provide more credit cards with higher interest with their own cash back schemes. Who pays ? Well, it isn 't the retailers as they simply charge more for their goods and services with a little extra so they get some cash back too. Guess you pays the higher prices or do you really believe it all comes down to higher shipping and productions costs ?
@PappaJon2009
@PappaJon2009 8 ай бұрын
@@toddpowers2936no, it really isn't.
@KManAbout
@KManAbout 8 ай бұрын
It is that cost is accounted for as an increase in inflation which the boc works out to be 0.15% ​@PappaJon2009
@bonniedale1
@bonniedale1 8 ай бұрын
The poor rural areas of the country where you have to drive 50 km to a grocery store definitely do not recoup the carbon tax.
@checkfactschecking
@checkfactschecking 8 ай бұрын
If you actually did looked up the facts which are posted and easily accessible you would find that addresses in rural areas get a lot more in their rebates. It varies per province.
@bonniedale1
@bonniedale1 8 ай бұрын
@@checkfactschecking We are seniors living in Rural Saskatchewan. We drive a hybrid car and have electric heat. We are 50km from nearest grocery store, dentist, doctors , pharmacy etc and 300km from specialist health services. Our carbon rebate doesn’t cover even half of the additional carbon tax we pay directly let alone the additional cost on items that have gone up due to the manufacturing, transportation, warehousing , etc because of carbon taxing.
@waynekibbler2710
@waynekibbler2710 8 ай бұрын
@@checkfactschecking Hmmm NOPE I got a rebate deposited for a whopping $143 last June have not seen a cent since. I am rural only 14Km to the grocery and everything is more than it is in the city. NO I do not make more, I moved to rural since I could not afford a home in the city. There is no way Turdo is speaking the truth in any capacity, it is all #bullshit
@checkfactschecking
@checkfactschecking 8 ай бұрын
@@waynekibbler2710 Sure. Do you have auto deposit enabled? You should get a cheque every quarter. Did you bother to look up what constitutes rural and if you qualify? What province do you live in? As I said every province is different. The premium for rural in Ontario is 10%. If you are not getting your cheques maybe it's because you moved. Why don't you call about them it? Trudeau isn't lying, or that would be a huge news item. Also food in a small or independent country grocery store is always more than in the city.
@nickyalousakis3851
@nickyalousakis3851 8 ай бұрын
nobody will. the first issue is that a govt that administers this will immediately eat up ten percent. any economist that tells you eight in ten families who pay eight dollars into this - and gets ten dollars back....is a muppet. further, taxes shrink economies. lastly and this is the big one.... carbon taxing is ineffective at two things. it doesn't change behavior and it fails to lower emissions. it's an antiquated idea from two decades ago where other countries particularly scandinavian ones have abandoned carbon tax schemes for more intelligent ideas. in particular investment in new and developing technologies. this is where the answer is. not tax..
@kevinn9802
@kevinn9802 8 ай бұрын
Very misleading as most restaurants operate with natural gas to cook food. Higher costs at restaurants equal higher prices. How can anyone say that they dont eat out, or cook at home, and are not affected?. No one will be able to just get free money as nothing is free from government, just a way to take someone else money and hand it to another group.
@metalheadlass9868
@metalheadlass9868 8 ай бұрын
You can make free money if you just eat sashimi😂
@KristoffMorgan-m3h
@KristoffMorgan-m3h 8 ай бұрын
Dammit I ate some the other day where is my money??? Haha@@metalheadlass9868
@sjbutler2330
@sjbutler2330 8 ай бұрын
It's like switching potholes on our roads, and in our cities!
@petersilva037
@petersilva037 8 ай бұрын
induction cooking is now as fast as gas, and uses 90% less electricity than old electric stoves... In the rest of the world, induction cooking has been popular for decades, because it's cheaper and easier to work with.
@orcapeanuts8303
@orcapeanuts8303 8 ай бұрын
Have you ever been to any, any restaurant and ask the cook if they can get any work done with induction stove? Do you think a family owned business struggling to make ends meet will spend thousands in pots and pans induction compatible?
@F_e_l
@F_e_l 8 ай бұрын
So how many ppl does the gov employ to "process" this collect and rebate process?
@annaowczarek3747
@annaowczarek3747 8 ай бұрын
A lot! If you consider that the number of government workers has increased by 40% since 2015, the bigger the government, the bigger the money laundering operation we are dealing with.
@greatmatt301
@greatmatt301 8 ай бұрын
Well thats something you will have to ask the provincial governments as well.
@jerrykurl69
@jerrykurl69 8 ай бұрын
20% of the entire country works for the government.
@chrisbadger282
@chrisbadger282 8 ай бұрын
​@@annaowczarek3747 yup 20% of canadians are now employed by the government most in history umm ya lets vote ourselves a rise today since we have done such a great job for canadians !
@BaineFritzler
@BaineFritzler 8 ай бұрын
4:50 pm. FYI electricity is not at zero carbon tax. All the transportation costs for consumer goods and food are subject to carbon tax. All businesses do not get rebates. All our schools, churches and municipal buildings and maintenance are subject to carbon tax.
@mauricester
@mauricester 8 ай бұрын
where I live we pay a carbon tax on our Electricity,,,, I am glad you mentioned that schools, churches and municipal buildings and maintenance are subject to carbon tax,, not to be critcal,, the number one user of Electricity , Natural Gas,, and even Diesel,( back up generators and heating) would be Hospitals,,, ,, so more cost for the healthcare system,, 🙄👍
@kerryanderson3216
@kerryanderson3216 8 ай бұрын
You didn’t mention that every business pays and gets Nothing back. Big deal to ignore
@jack8167
@jack8167 8 ай бұрын
but the money has to come from somewhere, and the prices of the products/services will go up. Some goes up a little, some business involving more manufacturing processes will go up a whole lot more. There is no way these couple hundred dollars will cover anything
@GurksTheGamer
@GurksTheGamer 8 ай бұрын
They don't pay it because they pass it down to consumers
@hansjansen7047
@hansjansen7047 8 ай бұрын
They don't need to get anything back because they just pass it on to the next level, and eventually to the consumer.
@dothedeed
@dothedeed 7 ай бұрын
That's the point. The fact they will pay incentives them to switch from fossil fuels to renewables.
@jimvautour595
@jimvautour595 8 ай бұрын
This was a very bias viewpoint, without larger scale context of let's say a transport truck driving 14 hrs / day, 7 days a week. It ends up a massive amount of diesel fuel cost that will be transferred directly to consumers goods, especially food.
@dennisheyes4561
@dennisheyes4561 8 ай бұрын
I did not realize math was biased. If your argument is that carbon pricing significantly altered the prices (like more than Galen Weston's greed.) Why did the price of food also go up in countries without Carbon tax too?
@piratefishrick
@piratefishrick 8 ай бұрын
​@@dennisheyes4561 Galen Weston and others can't cause inflation even if they wanted to because they don't control the amount of currency that goes into circulation. The government printed too much money and the price of everything went up. This happened in other countries too, but it is not a "global problem" like some politicians claim. If Canada didn't print so much money over the last few years then prices here would not have gone up like they did, and our currency would have become stronger relative to that of other countries'.
@TATEVSWORLD
@TATEVSWORLD 8 ай бұрын
@@piratefishrickexactly then add on to that carbon tax which drive inflation even more and it’s going to keep going up in the name of climate change scam 🤣
@flopes11
@flopes11 8 ай бұрын
Its biased if you pick the factors you want and exclude the ones you don't. Again, I say replace it with stupidity tax. with citizens like you...we'll be rich very soon.@@dennisheyes4561
@joeisawesome540
@joeisawesome540 8 ай бұрын
@@piratefishrick can you find a country where inflation didn’t happen? Even Japan, famous for deflation is experiencing inflation. And the inflation hit almost at the same time in 2022. So ya, it is a global issue. Let’s not pretend otherwise. Also, government had to use stimulus measure during the pandemic, or half the families will be on the streets. This is why most government printed a lot of money during the pandemic. PP would have done the same thing. Trump, conservatives hero also slashed interest rate to 0, and printed trillions of dollars for relief measures. Finally, lack of supply can definitely cause inflation. It is not just money printing.
@reginaldberringer8304
@reginaldberringer8304 8 ай бұрын
Really, a news agency funded by the federal government giving an opinion that Cardon tax isn't really driving prices up, really ?
@RogerComte-p4x
@RogerComte-p4x 7 ай бұрын
Most would dump fossil fuels at the blink of an eye.Just can't.
@haroldbernard3505
@haroldbernard3505 7 ай бұрын
Grocery stores making record profits. They are blaming the carbon tax, but their profits are far higher than the carbon tax accounts for.
@therrydicule
@therrydicule 7 ай бұрын
Except it's not just the CBC, it's at least 200 economists, some studies, banks... Basically the idea that the carbon tax is causing inflation is popular on the same right that rejects the existence of global warming and doesn't want to do jack. In fact, they want to subsidize the oil even more because "CO2 is plant food" - even if they don't want to receive 50 pizzas for tonight... Pizza is human food, so getting more Pizza means humans will grow quicker, right? Certainly there would be no side effects to eating 50 pizzas tonight!
@ddhqj2023
@ddhqj2023 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, you wouldn't want to listen to anyone who's actually put in the time to research an issue would you? Better to stick with the dumb strangers and lying politicians who want to stoke your fears so he can get his chance at the Big Office. You know, the guy who panders to the very industries that are producing the toxic product that is killing the environment! Yay for never looking stuff up right!
@Bhartiya2005
@Bhartiya2005 8 ай бұрын
This guy is only half right. Fuel price goes up. Transportation cost goes up. Who will absorb that cost? Naturally businesses will not. Pass on to consumers.
@VideoGameMarimbist
@VideoGameMarimbist 8 ай бұрын
He said exactly that. Did you even listen? Try rewatching at 8:45 again.
@mikeb5664
@mikeb5664 8 ай бұрын
Name a time when consumers didn't pay for costs?
@DirtyDog995
@DirtyDog995 8 ай бұрын
Especially now that diesel is quite a bit higher than petrol (about $.50/l more in Alberta)
@j2simpso
@j2simpso 8 ай бұрын
Businesses always eat up the cost of extra taxes and fees. Just means less dividends for shareholders. Don’t believe me? Look at the UK and their air passenger duty. It caused airfares to drop!
@wayneandrews1022
@wayneandrews1022 8 ай бұрын
This analysis does actually help a it to understand the numbers, though as with most it’s still missing some fundamental aspects. One being what is surely the astronomical cost to taxpayers to fund the government (and banking) administration of this tax and return scheme. Second, is it having the desired effect - are people buying and burning less fossil fuel? That should be easy to find out. Third and most importantly, is it having any measurable effect on climate change? When asked, the experts say “it’s complicated”. But we’re doing it anyway despite the fact that Canada’s contribution to GHGs are miniscule on the global scale. Rather than continue a dubious social engineering experiment, we should be funding R&D toward migration to alternative energy such as nuclear and to adaptation of human life in a changing climate (if, in fact, it is changing fundamentally or only cyclically).
@Bigjohn928
@Bigjohn928 8 ай бұрын
What about HST on top of Carbon tax huh? Why is that? Nothing to do with environment just tax grab my friend!
@Devilcity6275
@Devilcity6275 8 ай бұрын
The HST was introduced by the Conservatives, still here today, why now complain about Carbon Tax😂
@Nov1706
@Nov1706 8 ай бұрын
@@Devilcity6275Has literally nothing to do with Canada in 2024. Keep playing your colour, red/blue games while the adults are talking, sweetie.
@Devilcity6275
@Devilcity6275 8 ай бұрын
Ok sweetie pie, will shut right up. 😅
@POVwithRC
@POVwithRC 8 ай бұрын
​@@Devilcity6275Thank you for doing so. Whataboutisms are threadbare at this time.
@Carrie-so3ro
@Carrie-so3ro 8 ай бұрын
OF COURSE it STILL has to do with today - or was the HST tax eliminated at some point & somehow I don't know about it? You seem to be missing the whole point - it's just gone RIGHT over your head.@@Nov1706
@trapz4550
@trapz4550 8 ай бұрын
$1600to fill my oil tank, to fill same amount last year was $900. House Insurance from $1200 to $3700., truck fuel was $3000; now $4000, small basket blueberries was $5.00, now $10.00 for less amount. CBC, do you catch my drift?
@immaleaf4964
@immaleaf4964 8 ай бұрын
don't worry, 8 out of 10 of you get it baaaaaaack
@raymondsiu
@raymondsiu 8 ай бұрын
That is why we need to de-fund the CBC to let them know the reality.
@mikeb5664
@mikeb5664 8 ай бұрын
There is no carbon tax on your insurance.
@rayleblanc7209
@rayleblanc7209 8 ай бұрын
@@immaleaf4964 Wrong. 2 out of 10 get a small rebate. But it doesn't come close to the 25% increase on everything we buy.
@GFY_FOAD
@GFY_FOAD 8 ай бұрын
@@mikeb5664 yet
@briandecasa5444
@briandecasa5444 8 ай бұрын
It's fascinating how the tables have turned. It used to be mainstream media scrutinizing government but here we have a dedicated piece playing defense.
@Lucasjamespetersen
@Lucasjamespetersen 8 ай бұрын
because, if you hadn't not noticed, the climate crisis is getting extremely real. canadians have some of the highest per capita emissions on the planet. economic disincentive to burn fuel is direly needed.
@alexandermathew9909
@alexandermathew9909 8 ай бұрын
@@Lucasjamespetersen Doesnt change the fact that the media is not allowed to check the government anymore. Everything is easily accepted.
@sirushill21
@sirushill21 8 ай бұрын
​@Lucasjamespetersen yes and people were setting the fires. Not climate change lol
@jeffgrainger9646
@jeffgrainger9646 8 ай бұрын
​@Lucasjamespetersen you know what's real? Record numbers at food banks across the country.
@bob6yt7
@bob6yt7 8 ай бұрын
@@LucasjamespetersenHighest per capita is not an accurate reflection of our global impact. We have a large land mass, ship goods from coast to coast to coast, winter climate requiring heat. Canada contributes 1.5% of GHG emissions globally. Even if we cut our emissions in half, an impossible feat, that would amount to a 0.75% drop globally. Meanwhile, China and India and many other nations that lack government regulations, simply don’t care and continue to increase emissions.
@carsonmetcalfe7635
@carsonmetcalfe7635 8 ай бұрын
Why 100L of diesel? Why not 1000. Thats the average tank on a semi truck which brings almost all consumer products to market. Not to mention everything that travels by rail.
@de_stroyed
@de_stroyed 8 ай бұрын
There are pickup trucks that are also diesel. And it's not hard to do the math to figure it out which is $210.
@robert8668
@robert8668 8 ай бұрын
F250 diesel and mini excavator after rebate I should only be in the hole$1284 this year. I glad to share my money with those poor people with no car and heat with electricity.
@youngcardinal94
@youngcardinal94 8 ай бұрын
So multiply it by 10?... Also, rail is ridiculously more efficient than almost any other form of transportation, and we need to move stuff somehow. CN and CPR are free to convert their locomotives to straight electric instead of hybrids any time they want to spend the money.... Lord knows they have it.
@KristoffMorgan-m3h
@KristoffMorgan-m3h 8 ай бұрын
They can't convert all their engines to electric, an electric engine couldn't make it over the mountain passes in the winter when batteries drain much more rapidly, they'd have to bring in the diesels to rescue the electric engines making it almost pointless to even try. Many have ditched their electric vehicles for gas ones here because it's too impractical and costs more. People with electric vehicles where I live have to charge them multiple times a day to stay mobile when it's 20 or 30 below which is much more expensive than operating a conventional vehicle not to mention who has the time to sit at a charger for an hour 3 times or more per day when we must work 2 jobs just to make ends meet?@@youngcardinal94
@danheuser5148
@danheuser5148 8 ай бұрын
You also need to consider how expensive things will get if, e.g, our summers keep getting hotter and drier (if we don't do anything about climate change). Are you willing to gamble that farmers will be able to figure out how to keep farming under increasingly extreme conditions? It doesn't matter if we remove all taxes from fuel if there's less food to transport.
@oilerssixpack2629
@oilerssixpack2629 8 ай бұрын
This is all lies as the consumer pays everyone’s carbon tax from transporting goods, repair services,groceries, booze and anything else we pay for as a consumers.
@Donthaveacowbra
@Donthaveacowbra 8 ай бұрын
And you then get that money back. This is just the sheer reality of it. If prices go up so thereby does your rebate
@oilerssixpack2629
@oilerssixpack2629 8 ай бұрын
@@Donthaveacowbra you not taking into account clothing food rent mortgages but you live BC AND THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING
@rh7163
@rh7163 8 ай бұрын
@@Donthaveacowbra If you believe all of that, I have a bridge for sale and its going at fire sale prices but be quick, its scheduled for demolition. Meanwhile, any thoughts on the credit card cash back schemes the banks have come up with ? Higher prices at the retail stores ? Think hard, need a clue on what helps those retailers to come up with dealing with cash back schemes ? Maybe higher prices which provide some cash back of their own ? It takes more grease to make the wheels turn without any squeaks.
@zen1647
@zen1647 8 ай бұрын
All the people who are paying taxes are getting some back - and getting more back if they are energy efficient!
@jakeu844
@jakeu844 8 ай бұрын
Remember Trudeau owns the CBC, so why would they tell the truth.
@wayneandvickijackson4853
@wayneandvickijackson4853 8 ай бұрын
Forget all the itemizing, as this is pretty easy to figure out. How much did the Government collect in Carbon Taxes and how much did they pay back? Let’s not forget the millions it costs to administer all this. This was asked to Freeland in Committee and she refused to answer! Case closed!
@dootdoot1867
@dootdoot1867 8 ай бұрын
They are only talking about the consumer pricing. Not the Business pricing. Which you pay for while they admit that you will be less productive so make lower wages.
@shanederinger8756
@shanederinger8756 8 ай бұрын
works pretty well when you write the report to fit the narrative eh?
@bhut1571
@bhut1571 8 ай бұрын
No, his logic is correct, unless you are wealthy and the next generation benefits with less CO2 in the air.
@movingtocalgary01
@movingtocalgary01 8 ай бұрын
@cbc you missed calculation of lost jobs due to Carbon tax to foreign dictators, China 🇨🇳, India 🇮🇳, Mexico 🇲🇽 & other countries.
@skura2093
@skura2093 8 ай бұрын
​@@dootdoot1867just out of curiosity, do you think businesses will voluntarily lose money or do you think they will adjust their prices to offset what they pay in extra taxes? Like, what would a rational businessperson do given that choice?
@YokubouTenshi
@YokubouTenshi 8 ай бұрын
What the report on estimated cost to Canadians missed is the billions of tax dollars we have to pay to a "consulting firm" to run this program.
@zen1647
@zen1647 8 ай бұрын
Is that less than other programs designed to lower emissions? That's the real question.
@ccheg3949
@ccheg3949 8 ай бұрын
It misses all the transportation costs on products that gets passed down to the consumers!! We definitely don't get back what we pay into it ALL over the place!!
@BCrossing
@BCrossing 8 ай бұрын
Exaggerated, and you do get it back, twice over
@waynekibbler2710
@waynekibbler2710 8 ай бұрын
@@BCrossing Not even close. For example, food prices have tripled much of it can be attributed to the carbon tax. TrueDolt has his own "new math" we are all suffering and he has to go!
@BCrossing
@BCrossing 8 ай бұрын
@@waynekibbler2710 He can go for all I care. But carbon taxes discourage excessive driving, reducing carbon, and give the government more wriggle room to increase spending. A double win, for a single loss/cost: Europe-priced fuel.
@Mr090909090909099
@Mr090909090909099 8 ай бұрын
@@BCrossingwho tf determines excessive driving, everyone drives the amount they need to drive to do the things they need to do, this type of nanny state garbage where you expect others to let you run their lives because you think the government can do it better it’s pathetic take some accountability and run your life the way you want to and stop crying to daddy government everytime your pasties twist.
@Mr090909090909099
@Mr090909090909099 8 ай бұрын
@@BCrossingwho tf wants the government to have more spending, all their spending comes from taxes and from finding ways to price gouge the average citizen while giving tax breaks to the politicians family and friends who are in a high social class than you anyways, you know every day I get by just fine without once thinking to myself “you know who needs more money, THE GOVERNMENT” I just don’t understand how someone could want to charge more on driving which most Canadians rely on heavily especially those in rural areas to get to work this affects the vast majority of a population which is already struggling monthly paycheque to paycheque, honestly I’m not trying to insult you however you need to get some perspective and check your privilege.
@EdPenwarden
@EdPenwarden 8 ай бұрын
The problem with the Bank of Canada’s inflation impact of the carbon tax is - the new CPI (consumer price index) excludes gasoline, fuel oil, intercity transportation and fruits and vegetables (which are usually trucked to us especially in the winter.
@RodrigodelaJara
@RodrigodelaJara 8 ай бұрын
That's false. There's one of several other measures called the CPIX that excludes those things, but the one called CPI does not.
@anonymous134y
@anonymous134y 8 ай бұрын
i reported the video for misinformation
@-First-Last
@-First-Last 8 ай бұрын
@@anonymous134y Good one ! 👍👍😂😂 How to do that ? I will do it too. Oh .... wait ... this is CBC- Canadian Brainwashing Corporation. They NEVER spread misinformation. And trudeau with his new wife will scold you for not care about Ukraine.
@ErVan_AG
@ErVan_AG 8 ай бұрын
What about the business owners and farmers? As a grain farmer I pay a 35% fuel surcharge on grain hauled to elevator terminal? CN removed the rail road near my farm in the 90s so I have no other way to transport grain. Everything transported in Canada has this extra cost!! Tax is a TAX no matter how you sum it up.!!!!
@CraZY.pRIME.
@CraZY.pRIME. 8 ай бұрын
You didn't watch the whole video or at all.
@jupitereye4322
@jupitereye4322 8 ай бұрын
@@CraZY.pRIME. And you are not listening to the farmer. Instead you are listening to news.
@planefan082
@planefan082 8 ай бұрын
Indirect costs are mentioned and approximated towards the end.
@CraZY.pRIME.
@CraZY.pRIME. 8 ай бұрын
@@jupitereye4322You also didn't watch it.
@TheLoachman
@TheLoachman 8 ай бұрын
@@jupitereye4322 "News"??? Propaganda.
@tudvalstone
@tudvalstone 8 ай бұрын
The tax fuels inflation. Even if you get back what you directly paid on the tax, you'll pay a lot more on everything, above the tax. There's also a HST tax on top of the carbon tax. You are NOT getting that back.
@ytan3199
@ytan3199 8 ай бұрын
Before asking people to reduce driving or heating, show us how much less driving/heating you have done….
@joeisawesome540
@joeisawesome540 8 ай бұрын
Well, let me tell you how much I have done. The average Canadian family of 4 waste about 1000-1500 dollars of food they bought from the store each year. That figure is way higher than what the average family pay in carbon tax after rebate. Our family has made a plan to eat what we bought, and only get news things when we finish the old items. Do we still waste food? Sure, but now waste less than 200 bucks a year. Not only did we reduce our waste but also carbon tax. We also got a smart thermostat and we lower our temperature when people are working and at night when we are sleeping. We pay almost half of what my parents use at their house with a conventional thermostat. As for driving, I always wanted a 5l mustang as a kid, but when I finally got my career going, I grew up and made the good financial decision of buying a used hybrid. I get 800km per 55l of gas. This reduced my carbon emissions and taxes from driving by 1/3 compared to my parents who are driving conventional cars. So ya, our family, without any sacrifices have reduce our emissions and carbon tax by almost 2/5 when compared to someone who did nothing.
@allenc5108
@allenc5108 8 ай бұрын
Joe is awesome, lol.
@ytan3199
@ytan3199 8 ай бұрын
@@joeisawesome540 Joe is so awesome and great to hear what real people are doing. You guys are great! Sharing from my end, For us, We already have smart thermostats from the very beginning, also already have home away routine, already lowered tempt at night to 19C. I don’t think we can lower heating further just for carbon without we at home suffering. No. I don’t have hybrid car, to get a new car I have to have money first. But with paying more each month, I don’t know where to get money to upgrade the car. And when we talking within our group, people are totally in for upgrades and home renovations. But again, we need to have the spare money first. And my follow-up question is that with living costs higher and higher, how do we improve to cut carbon without money?
@mattmace2606
@mattmace2606 8 ай бұрын
Most people aren't big nerds and likely won't do this... when is your new, and even higher pedestal coming in?
@rodgood
@rodgood 8 ай бұрын
We need to know now you plan to reach Zero carbon emission ? other then exhaling .
@ValdemiroAmorim
@ValdemiroAmorim 8 ай бұрын
Tax on fuel is a tax on everything, I work for a trucking company and we pass the cost to of extra fuel expenses to our customers, in turn they pass it to the consumer.. not rocket science here!!!
@Kala12326
@Kala12326 8 ай бұрын
Especially when you consider federal, provincial and municipal employees are all asking for raises as the price of everything increases
@AsThe3rdEye
@AsThe3rdEye 8 ай бұрын
iMHZEV? You save $10,000-200,000 and dodge the carbon tax entirely? You or a competitor get to lower your prices and hedge out the competition?
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 8 ай бұрын
​@@Kala12326That leads to something called a wage-price spiral.
@zen1647
@zen1647 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like extra incentive to be as energy efficient as possible .
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 8 ай бұрын
For short-haul you can electrify. For long-haul electrified rail should take over (if the rail companies can get their heads out of their asses). The problem with rail is that North American rail companies are currently obsessed with "precision scheduled railroading". This is a system of cost-cutting involving running overly long trains to save on infrastructure and staffing costs. The problems are: 1. Long trains no longer fit in sidings, so trains can't pass one another 2. Long trains get delayed, so staff are forced to work unpredictable hours 3. The lack of scheduling means that the railroads can only move low-value bulk freight. Right now all the valuable cargo is either moving by plane or truck because the rail companies need a lot of lead time.
@mylesflewelling6935
@mylesflewelling6935 8 ай бұрын
That’s not what the farmers are saying !
@joeisawesome540
@joeisawesome540 8 ай бұрын
farmers can't do math.. thats why they are farmers.. talk to their accountant.
@youpedia4614
@youpedia4614 8 ай бұрын
​@@joeisawesome540 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@VideoGameMarimbist
@VideoGameMarimbist 8 ай бұрын
@@joeisawesome540 Agreed. A friend of mine does accounting for farmers and she says that they literally just give her a box of receipts and she is just expected to calculate their entire fiscal year. Lots of farmers don't know any of their financials.
@CanadianEhHole
@CanadianEhHole 8 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameMarimbist That's for tax purposes. That isn't because they have no concept of how much money they're making and spending.
@VideoGameMarimbist
@VideoGameMarimbist 8 ай бұрын
@CanadianEhHole Yes but if they aren't tracking their finances then they have no clue if they are seeing increases over time due to a carbon tax.
@TheLonelyMister
@TheLonelyMister 8 ай бұрын
I want 12 minutes of my life back after watching this and listening to word vomit
@fredrobinson4332
@fredrobinson4332 8 ай бұрын
What would do with twenty minutes? Close your eyes to your enemy named reality?lol
@JulietMartin2022
@JulietMartin2022 7 ай бұрын
This is pure and blatant Trudeau propaganda. I’ve never received carbon rebates and don’t even know how to apply for them.
@jimmccoal2693
@jimmccoal2693 7 ай бұрын
I didn't watch , I know their narrative. Just reading comments. Defund the CBC !
@MRJDOROSH
@MRJDOROSH 8 ай бұрын
You glossed over the next page of the report where it talks about total economic impact. You know those pesky indirect costs. I noticed that page says 60-80% of Canadians are worse off.
@cowoffun3545
@cowoffun3545 8 ай бұрын
The video talks about indirect costs between 7:50 and 10:20. Spending 20% of the video is not "glossing over".
@gary2984234
@gary2984234 8 ай бұрын
It's glossing over when the bottom line is that when all is said and done, MOST households will be worse off, not better.
@umani9983
@umani9983 8 ай бұрын
Canada is a large country and so much of our food are delivered by trucks, trucks use fuel which are taxed which in turn make the food delivered more expensive. Restaurants use natural gas to cook making their end product even more expensive. In fact every product we buy be it cloth, appliances require transportation, and that transportation is being taxed. The lie is saying you are only paying for the carbon tax at the pump and home heating. No it is added to the price of literally everything we buy. And poor people don't eat that much less food or wear much fewer clothes than rich people.
@KManAbout
@KManAbout 8 ай бұрын
watch the video
@annsmyth764
@annsmyth764 8 ай бұрын
no more eating out
@Azel247
@Azel247 8 ай бұрын
A couple working full time making $20/hr each in BC is deemed too wealthy to get any rebates.
@lucgruffaz7750
@lucgruffaz7750 8 ай бұрын
I have yet to receive any check from our BC taxman , even so our dual income for me and my spouse was under $30,000 ?
@CanadianEhHole
@CanadianEhHole 8 ай бұрын
You're not their target demographic. They know they've lost the middle class next election and are desperate to get low and no income voters which is why they're dishing out all these spending programs, which are just campaign ploys.
@DirtyDog995
@DirtyDog995 8 ай бұрын
When I lived in BC I made ~$100k... no rebates, no pharma assistance then one year I got 3 GST rebate cheques for $31/ea ... they must have F'd up.
@Sylvie_M
@Sylvie_M 8 ай бұрын
@azel247 BC is not part of this program!
@Azel247
@Azel247 8 ай бұрын
@@Sylvie_M BC has its own program
@JingleJenkins-oi1tf
@JingleJenkins-oi1tf 8 ай бұрын
anyone who thinks this government is gonna make money out of their money is a lost cause 😂😂😂 2.9 TRILLION IN DEBT!!!!
@sparklessconnectionselectrical
@sparklessconnectionselectrical 8 ай бұрын
All it does is justify payroll for useless bureaucrats and it doesn't reduce the amount of emissions whatsoever
@fredgould3825
@fredgould3825 8 ай бұрын
Come on , the price on fuel has a direct correlation to the price on most things we buy and consume.
@joeisawesome540
@joeisawesome540 8 ай бұрын
Yes, but I think you are overestimating how much shipping cost is fuel. A loaded semi hauls around 40k of goods. A fully loaded semi uses 40 litre of diesel per 100m. Carbon tax is at 14 cents a litre which means if you are delivering 40k lb of cabbages it will use 800l of gas and pay 120 in carbon tax. Divide that among the cabbages, and you will get an increase of 0.3cents per lb of cabbage. If you go, what if they only carry 20k lb, the semi will also use less diesel, and 2000km will cost around 0.4 cents per lb of cabbage. A little bit more but not significantly more. This is why people are confused about how little carbon tax has on the transportation of food.
@flopes11
@flopes11 8 ай бұрын
this is a complete fabrication@@joeisawesome540
@colingryms3373
@colingryms3373 8 ай бұрын
@@joeisawesome540 It looks like you're a numbers guy, I've been trying to find how many times the carbon tax impacts a loaf of bread from fertilizer production to table... wearable parts, equipment end of life replacement (and all the embed cost associated with these items), transportation (and wearable parts), drying seeds, heating buildings, processing (and wearable parts and equipment replacement),.... I'm pretty sure it will only add 0.15% to the cost of a loaf of bread.
@joeisawesome540
@joeisawesome540 8 ай бұрын
@@colingryms3373 well, most of the Carbon is exempt at the farming level as well. I would love to see your numbers
@colingryms3373
@colingryms3373 8 ай бұрын
@@joeisawesome540 Only diesel fuel. Natural gas and propane are most often used to heat buildings and drying... those gases are not exempt yet. The bill to exempt propane and natural gas has been on the table for some time.
@Dragonflypsk
@Dragonflypsk 8 ай бұрын
Whole ton of videos from all the state media on the carbon tax recently. Someone's trying to push a narrative.
@CardiologyGuy
@CardiologyGuy 8 ай бұрын
Or the Cons have made it their key talking point, but it's based on deliberate lies and misinformation. Who's to say....
@joeisawesome540
@joeisawesome540 8 ай бұрын
lol! Because you disagree, therefore it must be lies right?
@stoutz
@stoutz 8 ай бұрын
Because it's going up on April 1st so there's a lot of public and media attention on it. Not hard to figure out.
@joeisawesome540
@joeisawesome540 8 ай бұрын
@@stoutz some people are dumb.
@davidlynch9049
@davidlynch9049 8 ай бұрын
​@@joeisawesome540You.😂
@BarbGagnier
@BarbGagnier 5 ай бұрын
The tax is on everything that moves. I hate that it is not added into the cost of moving food, going to work, eating, living, farming. This 0.15% inflation is a joke!! Who is doing this math!!!
@MrPwilly78
@MrPwilly78 8 ай бұрын
Running the numbers you show at 5:28 through a very simple spreadsheet, I can see that those who get a rebate receive a total of $29102. Those who pay more pay a total of $1876. So a difference of almost $28000 needs to be made up (this number would have to be scaled up to represent the actual population). Does this come right out of Trudeau's pocket? I doubt it. Most likely the difference is made up from commercial and industrial taxpayers who then roll the extra costs into everyday goods and services. But since those numbers are never published, one can only guess how much that actually is. The only clear thing, is that these numbers posted make zero sense and are designed to make people believe that they are getting more back than they pay. The real math is insanely simple. Show us how much the government raked in from carbon tax vs how much they paid out in rebates. But I'm guessing we will never see that because that would be actual reporting and not propoganda.
@williamjesse7622
@williamjesse7622 8 ай бұрын
I believe I watched a committee report which stated $26 billion was taken in and $18 billion paid out. Where is the other &8 billion?
@planefan082
@planefan082 8 ай бұрын
It's not hard lol. Check your bank statements, do the math.
@MrPwilly78
@MrPwilly78 8 ай бұрын
@@williamjesse7622 Exactly! The Canada Carbon "Rebate" takes money out of taxpayers pockets. I guess the rebate part goes to JT and his friends!
@MrPwilly78
@MrPwilly78 8 ай бұрын
@@planefan082 Are you saying that you get more back because of what the Libs put in your bank account? Did you even read my post? The math is not hard. You are definitely paying more than that.
@Frameboy71
@Frameboy71 8 ай бұрын
@@williamjesse7622 Duh... it's a TAX.
@michaelrouttenberg5864
@michaelrouttenberg5864 8 ай бұрын
Canada's CO2 cuts are a drop in the ocean, rendered insignificant as China and India's new coal plants massively overshadow any reductions, turning our efforts into mere whispers against their roaring emissions. Amidst this, the Liberal government's response, spearheaded by a former drama teacher turned PM, is laughably inadequate-a carbon tax that burdens Canadians without scratching the global issue. Instead of ineffective posturing, Canada could lead with natural gas exports to replace coal, investing in nuclear and fusion tech. But Liberal incompetence and misplaced priorities ensure real action remains a distant d
@plonk7
@plonk7 8 ай бұрын
"Canada's CO2 cuts are a drop in the ocean..." So following your logic, no countries other than China and the USA should bother with CO2 emissions reductions as every other country is a, "drop in the ocean." CO2 emissions are a negative externality. The market is not pricing the pollution. Taxation is, by far and away, the most efficient way to correct this market failure, according to the vast majority of economists. Offering rebates makes it a progressive tax. It works hand in hand with the roll out of renewable energy, that Canada is awash with.
@williamjesse7622
@williamjesse7622 8 ай бұрын
American citizens do not pay carbon tax. It doesn't even exist. This is merely Trudeau's way of sucking up to Klaus Schwab and looking for a seat at the WEF!
@brady157
@brady157 8 ай бұрын
@@plonk7 cult leaders are trying to starve and impoverish Canadians to change the weather.
@wallyy33
@wallyy33 8 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation. As a business owner I have very little options to heat my building with anything other than natural gas. We pay the equivalent of carbon tax to the gas supply cost with zero rebate. This cost is passed on to the customer and also affects our ability to increase wages as our clients may just decide not to buy our product. If we are to work on climate change, we have to come up with solutions besides fees and taxes. They are not sustainable.
@ElephantGirl-uk3cr
@ElephantGirl-uk3cr 8 ай бұрын
Why are politicians always flanked by mute people? I can't think of a good reason.
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 8 ай бұрын
Only one person can speak, but they don't write their speeches alone.
@cliffm8112
@cliffm8112 8 ай бұрын
They are Yes! persons
@DavidHalverson
@DavidHalverson 8 ай бұрын
looks great having two or three people who are nodding yes to everything you spout out of your mouth as a politician or CEO of a corporation. Great job for 'bobble heads'.
@jonfox4022
@jonfox4022 8 ай бұрын
I just buried $13 in my backyard and it is now more vibrant than ever! Nature is healing, the carbon tax is working!
@keithjanzen9657
@keithjanzen9657 8 ай бұрын
We’ll actually the earth is 40% greener then it was 50 years ago.
@Wary_Of_Extremes
@Wary_Of_Extremes 8 ай бұрын
@@keithjanzen9657 and it's a lot greener than during the last ice age. we have bread baskets for the world compared to mile thick ice, and the oceans are 400 feet higher. but warmth and co2 are 'bad'...
@rmhamilton5161
@rmhamilton5161 8 ай бұрын
Tell us what that tax is doing to clean the air? Are people being encouraged to fly less. Are politicians flying less?
@Brandon_388
@Brandon_388 8 ай бұрын
They want people to walk and bike which is healthy at least
@youtub415
@youtub415 8 ай бұрын
@@Brandon_388 on extreme weather?
@Wary_Of_Extremes
@Wary_Of_Extremes 8 ай бұрын
The opposite. They're taxing for carbon, then flying in newbies and giving them 1st world standards...with the goal of pushing Canada's population up to 100 million. They can tax more because some will fall for the 'for the environment' virtue signalling.
@williamjesse7622
@williamjesse7622 8 ай бұрын
And there are more cars on the road!
@planefan082
@planefan082 8 ай бұрын
Cost-benefit analysis in the rational consumer theory. Dirty choices cost more = eventually cheaper to live clean
@Mike_from_Canmore
@Mike_from_Canmore 8 ай бұрын
I can't just not heat my house. I can't just not drive to the next town to do my job. I can't just not eat This tax is punitive, accomplishes nothing and should be removed immediately.
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 8 ай бұрын
You can take advantage of the Canada Greener Homes Initiative. An electric car with a 40kWh battery has "next city" capability: allowing you to go about 100km on 32kWh, and then fast charging to 80% (32kWh) before returning. Short-haul transport can be electrified. Long-haul rail transport can also be electrified: by that requires the north American rail companies to take their heads out of their asses (or rail corridor nationalization on both sides of the border). North American rail companies are currently obsessed with "precision scheduled railroading". This is a system of cost-cutting involving running overly long trains to save on infrastructure and staffing costs. The problems are: 1. Long trains no longer fit in sidings, so trains can't pass one another 2. Long trains get delayed, so staff are forced to work unpredictable hours 3. The lack of scheduling means that the railroads can only move low-value bulk freight.
@nonamesleftxxo4623yx
@nonamesleftxxo4623yx 8 ай бұрын
Seriously! We know this is increasing the costs of food and the most basic necessities of life! Oh, state media doesn't like all the data.
@stallioni
@stallioni 8 ай бұрын
they mention that metric but I guess you don't watch content just read headlines
@anonymous134y
@anonymous134y 8 ай бұрын
@@stallioni they said the carbon tax didn't raise the prices but canadians are paying more on average. Think a bit with that empty coconut
@stallioni
@stallioni 8 ай бұрын
@@anonymous134y They actually do say the carbon tax increases prices and even display charts with adjusted averages. See minute 9:30. Again did you watch it?
@aaronsimmons6307
@aaronsimmons6307 8 ай бұрын
The Taxes that we don't see, Product from the wheat silos to the producer? Producer to the distributor? Distributor to the Wholesaler? Wholesaler to the retail store... now add the packaging.Take a look at the utility costs of a grocery store and compare the costs of the heating alone since the carbon tax was introduced. Its very sobering.
@El.presidente
@El.presidente 8 ай бұрын
Defund the CBC and the Federal Government. Comprehensive recall legislation and FULL TRANSPARENCY on ALL government business and communications. No more Uniparty steamrolling of Canadians... or else.
@dennisheyes4561
@dennisheyes4561 8 ай бұрын
That's ironic because the only party found to have actually tried to unduly influence the CBC was the previous Conservative government that tried to fill their board of directors with party people, and they still tore Harper a new one.
@thadesserl
@thadesserl 8 ай бұрын
careful, they are passing laws to make what we type on the internet punishable by life in prison!
@dirtyjobs3995
@dirtyjobs3995 8 ай бұрын
The question should be, are you better off now than you were 8 years ago?
@smokesletsgo2374
@smokesletsgo2374 8 ай бұрын
8 years ago I was living in my own one bedroom apartment while making $14 an hour. Today I make more than double that and live with my mother because only room rentals are in my budget and they're only available to Indians
@nofbi8582
@nofbi8582 8 ай бұрын
@@smokesletsgo2374 Amen brother. I don't know how shills are out here defending the people in power.
@rostykh79
@rostykh79 7 ай бұрын
Ok, let's believe for a minute he's right about food prices (which is a lie, cause we all know that even prices at no frills are struggling to be "unbeatable"). What about anything that need to be delivered to a store? Expect food we have building supplies, maintenance and any kind of service, buying vehicles in dealerships or fixing/maintaining them, electricity, literally anything that needs to be delivered one way or another to our homes. Second, and probably less related to this topic is the growing prices of rent and mortgages, which take a huge portion of our salaries. And believe it or not, these are driven by the carbon tax as well (a landlord/homeowner still has to go to home depot to buy the necessary to fix a home), so no wonder the carbon tax affect all aspects of living. Government finded media, you can't fool Canadians anymore.
@alexg9727
@alexg9727 8 ай бұрын
Grocery costs have effectively doubled in the last year. This will cause further food inflation via delivery and production costs using fuels
@blackflycanada4943
@blackflycanada4943 8 ай бұрын
Also, when the dollar value of the item goes up, the dollar value of the tax collected on it also goes up. More for the government, less for you.
@garyholt8315
@garyholt8315 8 ай бұрын
agreed, I fume when stats can says food went up 4.5 %, maybe they meant per week lol
@dsbarclayeng1
@dsbarclayeng1 8 ай бұрын
There is No real math problem: How much money does the Govt. collect in a year. And how much does it rebate? But they won't tell you.
@RobertTerbrugge
@RobertTerbrugge 8 ай бұрын
The direct and indirect costs far exceed any 'rebates'. Most people are clueless about economic inputs, from production to delivery. Anyone who believes that taxes will solve climate change (98% which occurs outside Canada) needs to have their head examined.
@RobertoMarsalis
@RobertoMarsalis 7 ай бұрын
Impressed that you left the comments turned on, allowing people to expose the shortcomings and predictable bias of this video.
@bernb4142
@bernb4142 8 ай бұрын
You are also missing the point that during the winter, we import huge amounts of food from the USA. The truckers fuel up at the border in the states, then they drive and pollute in Canada the turn around and cross the border and refuel again in the states. Then our truckers pick the produce up at the warehouse in Canada. That warehouse pays carbon tax. Then the truckers deliver to stores. The truckers in Canada pay carbon tax. Then the grocery store sells it to us and the grocery store pays carbon tax to heat their stores. Then we drive home and pay carbon tax on our fuel cost to drive to the store and to heat our houses when we get home. Also, if you like to have a warm shower you pay carbon tax to heat your water. Obviously I don’t take hot showers any more. My carbon tax rebate doesn’t come close to covering the tax
@paulaubin510
@paulaubin510 8 ай бұрын
With the liberal government increasing federal jobs by 40% What does it cost to collect and distribute this carbon tax
@JohnyRott0n
@JohnyRott0n 8 ай бұрын
200 million dollars ..just to manage the rebate program
@DirtyDog995
@DirtyDog995 8 ай бұрын
@@JohnyRott0nBetter go with $300k... overtime and all ya know
@davecarpenter4917
@davecarpenter4917 8 ай бұрын
@@JohnyRott0n Do they take that out of the $600M in HST collected from the CTax fees ?
@lada152
@lada152 8 ай бұрын
Wonder how this guy getting paid to spin this pile bull crap into gold?
@DirtyDog995
@DirtyDog995 8 ай бұрын
6 figures I imagine
@joeisawesome540
@joeisawesome540 8 ай бұрын
Have you watched his segments? The dude is pretty good and factual for most of the things. Remember, just because you disagree does not mean someone is lying. Maybe t is your bias talking
@lada152
@lada152 8 ай бұрын
@@joeisawesome540 bias yes. Only show what makes it decent. Didnt take into account cost to goods or how gst is tagged on and used a chart 2030-31 plus not say how this reduces carbon other than make ppl poor to stop using ya that good governace.
@joeisawesome540
@joeisawesome540 8 ай бұрын
@@lada152 they did dude. Pbo report they are using take in account of the added cost and gst. It says in the report if you actually read it. You are the one who never read anything, and then feel everyone else is lying because you are biased as fk.
@joeisawesome540
@joeisawesome540 8 ай бұрын
@@lada152 you said you watched the video, and you still don’t understand how carbon tax works? Are you kidding me? It very simple, the less carbon you produce the more money you make. So it incentivizes people to shift their carbon emissions such as replacing their aging furnace with a more efficient one, or driving a more efficient car and walk more. When you put a price on pollution, people will shift their behaviour. When pollution is free, there is no incentive to curb pollution since it is free. For example, a person switching from a old gas guzzler car for a hybrid car can see a 40% drop in their carbon tax payment, but they still get the same rebate, which means the more they are careful with their emission, the more they save. So when it is time to replace your car, get a more fuel efficient one like I did.
@wandzilla1391
@wandzilla1391 8 ай бұрын
I did not expect to hear anything but praise in a CBC production. When the federal government is paying the bill to CBC to operate it would be prudent of them to tow the party line. As for facts I did have to chuckle on how only half of the facts were being explored fully. And half truths being offered for consumption. Again, folks must do their own research and form their own educated opinions. As a small business owner I can tell you, there is carbon fees being added by every business that handles the goods you buy. The small business pay all the carbon taxes and don't receive a penny back. We ALL pay SO much more than the government will ever let on or can hide in a spreadsheet.
@neonsamurai1348
@neonsamurai1348 8 ай бұрын
The thing is we will be paying way more than this, as it won't be just us paying for the carbon tax directly, but every single product we buy will also have this tax applied and the costs will be passed down to us. Everything shipped be it food, fuel, products, etc. all requires transportation, which requires fuel, particularly in this day and age of globalization. Then there will be all the taxes applied to this damn tax. And what exactly will this do for the environment, my bet is absolutely nothing.
@nicolea4411
@nicolea4411 8 ай бұрын
I don't understand. Would the money the government collects from taxing these companies not get distributed back to the consumers as part of the rebate? If that is the case, then it may change my opinion, but I don't know why that would be true.
@night_owl8572
@night_owl8572 8 ай бұрын
To what degree has the carbon tax actually changed consumer behaviour since it was introduced? Making gasoline more expensive, for example, has no significant impact on its consumption by individuals who need to commute by car to their work every day, or no significant impact on energy costs relating to transportation of goods in our economy. Until there are realistic alternatives to existing energy sources, current levels of energy consumption for the most part will need to continue. Also, while this carbon tax will continue to increase the cost of everything, I doubt it will have any significant impact in terms of reducing global warming in future? It's all smoke and mirrors!
@MC-zk7ll
@MC-zk7ll 8 ай бұрын
I’m a sole provider for my family of 4 and we get no “rebate”
@dennisheyes4561
@dennisheyes4561 8 ай бұрын
(1) What province do you live in. (BC and Quebec not on the federal plan) (2) Did you file your income taxes? (Don't actually answer, but that is one of the things that is needed in order to get the rebate according to the gov website)
@Meyers1793
@Meyers1793 8 ай бұрын
What kind of vehicle(s) do you drive? How big is your house and how do you heat it?
@splstudios7027
@splstudios7027 8 ай бұрын
@@dennisheyes4561 BC may not be on the federal plan but we definitely pay the CARBON TAX! Complete scam on BC residents
@ShaneBauer-i7j
@ShaneBauer-i7j 8 ай бұрын
The top 1% of income in Canada in 2023 = $258,034 The top 2% of income in Canada in 2023 = $190,119 The top 5% of income in Canada in 2023 = $132,493 The top 10% of income in Canada in 2023 = $102,869 The top 50% of income in Canada in 2023 = $37,695 You’re literally telling me if you make $50,000 or more you’re going to pay more for carbon tax… this is why we don’t want it… no one wants to be penalized because they don’t want to live in poverty
@CardiologyGuy
@CardiologyGuy 8 ай бұрын
OR get this, they have the money available to make changes to avoid paying the tax. If I switch from propane/fossil gas to heat pumps to heat my home and install solar and buy an EV, my carbon levy payment is negligible, but don't let your flawed logic get you down.
@RobB537
@RobB537 8 ай бұрын
@@CardiologyGuy do you know how much you have to spend to get an EV? I came here in 2023, and just got a job of 100k this month, and now my fuel cost is going to skyrocket. Last year, I could not save anything almost as most of my income went to living expenses. This is why, Canada will be losing all high income earners when our neighbors in the south does not do this kinda bullshi*! I will be leaving too as soon as I can. Canada soon will be a country of people who earn less than 50k a year
@CardiologyGuy
@CardiologyGuy 8 ай бұрын
@@RobB537 If you make so much money, as you claim, you should easily be able to afford alternatives. Why is your income linked to your fuel costs? That makes no sense? Why are your living costs so high that you spent all your living expenses, which according to you you make $100,000 a year? On average, the carbon bonus adds $30 to your heating bill per month, and you're saying with a $100 K salary you can't afford it? You'll be happy to know that despite this carbon bonus increase, inflation in Canada has fallen to 2.8%. Almost like they aren't linked or something..... If you want to go live in the US then do that then? No one is stopping you. By the way, did the US have any inflation over the 2022, 2023, and 2024 years?
@RobB537
@RobB537 8 ай бұрын
@@CardiologyGuy lol I have a family that I have to maintain where my family expenses are 3k (including rent), I travel for work because I cannot move outside Toronto, its almost 220 kms everyday and in my field, I was getting over 100k straight our of graduation in US whereas when I moved here, my salary dropped to 80k :)
@CardiologyGuy
@CardiologyGuy 8 ай бұрын
@@RobB537 Okay, so you lied about how much you make in your first statement, why am I to trust you now? If you made so much in the US (also money conversion), why didn't you stay? You travel 220 km, or about 2 hrs every day to your job? Where are you going from Toronto that you need to do this? Move somewhere closer. Again, if you are making $80,000 per year, and paying $3000 in expenses per month, you still are left with $44,000 per year. That's not including anything your spouse contributes as well.
@CaperCountry
@CaperCountry 8 ай бұрын
The office says the opposite the average Canadian is in the hole
@dennisheyes4561
@dennisheyes4561 8 ай бұрын
"Canada's budget watchdog troubled by spin around latest report on carbon pricing." was a CBC article from April in 2023.
@NewfieXbox66-ju4qb
@NewfieXbox66-ju4qb 7 ай бұрын
I put $20.00 in my Fuel Tank yesterday and it was at 168.7 L and got less than a half Tank
@POVwithRC
@POVwithRC 8 ай бұрын
Canadian Pravda. The regime smiles on you.
@dvil9
@dvil9 8 ай бұрын
Soon we’ll pay taxes on the air we breathe 😂
@stephensmith1118
@stephensmith1118 8 ай бұрын
ssssh dont give them any new ideas....
@joshg7949
@joshg7949 8 ай бұрын
Already trying to tax rain in Toronto.
@stephensmith1118
@stephensmith1118 8 ай бұрын
@@joshg7949 sure why not we pay tax when we earn, tax when we save, and tax when we spend.... if rain tax is introduced ib Vancouver... all BC will be broke....
@sonnyc3826
@sonnyc3826 8 ай бұрын
@@stephensmith1118 theyve already planned and thought about it i guarantee you
@johndeepfreeze8514
@johndeepfreeze8514 8 ай бұрын
carbon tax kind of is
@anhn8857
@anhn8857 8 ай бұрын
PIERRE POILIEVRE PM 2025
@andrewnicholl5703
@andrewnicholl5703 7 ай бұрын
How can you state some people don’t pay carbon tax?!?! If you buy anything, there is a carbon tax element priced into each product to cover production, distribution and retail cost increases…. It is not just personal gasoline, heating, etc. please also explain why this tax is above the line and we pay HST on it! Please stop acting like an SME when lying to people about getting more back in a rebate. Just figure out how much was collected, what you are rebating…and lower the tax!
@introsthemesopeningcredits
@introsthemesopeningcredits 8 ай бұрын
CBC: Rebates are making people millionaires 🤣
@Kala12326
@Kala12326 8 ай бұрын
😆
@AlwaysAskWhy420
@AlwaysAskWhy420 8 ай бұрын
CBC scared at how much their budget is gonna get cut when the Liberals fail in the next election.
@harrybaals2549
@harrybaals2549 8 ай бұрын
I run a convenience/snack store. Since I started doing this 3 years ago, the costs to purchase all my products have doubled at MINIMUM, and in many cases, tripled. It's hilarious for people who directly deal with supply chains to look at the TV people as they repeatedly assure us that everything is supposedly fine and inflation is supposedly only slightly higher than usual
@AM.000
@AM.000 8 ай бұрын
Yes, thanks to Covid impacting supply chains. You can't attribute those increases to carbon tax.
@Tacoma-W
@Tacoma-W 8 ай бұрын
So as a single individual, I pay about $10 extra for each gas refilling and then $80 back at the end of the year. And I an not even couting the carbon tax in the utility bills because where I live, that is the only option available there. Carbon task makes sense for people without cars, who don't work, who never take vacation and never fly, lives in an igloo and grow their own food AND have plenty of children
@brentmarr1331
@brentmarr1331 7 ай бұрын
also its not fair to old people who live alone in a two bedroom house and only get back 140 dollars when the family next door who has two kids with a two bedroom house gets abour 300 dollars per 3 months. and uses the same amount of fuel to heat their home
@christinehumphreys6717
@christinehumphreys6717 8 ай бұрын
Do these people that dont pay carbon tax buy anything??? The tax is on everything you buy and is compounded several times following the product from raw material til you get it in the store
@houston4208
@houston4208 8 ай бұрын
Carbon tax doesn’t help the environment, only helps politicians. Stop this tax on the people .
@goldenhourkodak
@goldenhourkodak 8 ай бұрын
Helps then? How? It's probably the biggest reason Trudeau will be voted out. Does he get the tax money?
@W1thcdoctor1987
@W1thcdoctor1987 8 ай бұрын
My family income exceeds $90,000 a year to own qualify for our (mortgaged, not rented) suburban home. We have no choice but to purchase about $4,000 in gasoline for our cars every year because we work and study at different places and at different times. We use electricity- not gas- for cooking but we consume about 3,600 cubic metres a year of gas for heating our home. Can someone explain how our carbon tax payments (net of any rebates) cause a reduction in forest fires, extreme weather events, or transportation gridlock-based greenhouse gas emissions? Exactly what are we paying for? Ideology?
@996068927
@996068927 8 ай бұрын
If you notice your gas costs are really high then you might consider buying an electric car. That is the goal of the carbon tax. To help transition people out of carbon. Less carbon emission means slower global warming. Just look at this past winter - a record breaking warm winter.
@parkerbohnn
@parkerbohnn 8 ай бұрын
It's the same as the now defunct clean air test or the 5 dollar tire tax of yesteryear. It's nothing but a money grab.
@Vivi-cd4gs
@Vivi-cd4gs 8 ай бұрын
You're supposed to change your behaviour when you notice how much you're paying... For example, trade your car in for a more efficient one.
@W1thcdoctor1987
@W1thcdoctor1987 8 ай бұрын
@@Vivi-cd4gs If you read my comment, you'd notice we spend only $4,000 a year on gasoline for our two cars. Help me quantify our business case for selling our existing cars (for which we have no loans) and buying two replacement Electronic Vehicles as well as a home charging station (estimated to cost over $130,000).
@martajessicapshyk832
@martajessicapshyk832 27 күн бұрын
Nothing. Media like to use big numbers and seniors receives big 0...zero
@brndnryn
@brndnryn 8 ай бұрын
If you live in rural Canada you do not have any option to drive less. Rural and suburban Canada will be paying much more. This is a wealth transfer from rural to urban Canada. Nobody is going to stop heating their home because of the carbon tax. The tax will not impact climate change. It’s punitive and ineffective.
@CardiologyGuy
@CardiologyGuy 8 ай бұрын
LOL what? There are more people living in urban areas than rural areas by factors of 10's, plus rural areas get an additional top up. So it's really that the urban people are paying the rural people. You can use other methods to heat your home and people have been making the change to heat pumps and electric heaters, but I understand that's hard for you to think through. The carbon tax is responsible for removing 8% of our emissions, which is a fairly good chunk. But again, don't let facts stand in the way of your lies.
@petersilva037
@petersilva037 8 ай бұрын
Does your farm have Electricity? Do you realize that Ev´s cost like 5x less per km, and don´t need oil changes, and you charge them on the farm with dryer plug? For people who drive a lot, an EV makes way more sense than for city people. City people should use transit. Just ask all the taxi drivers with EV´s. They are doing fine.
@brndnryn
@brndnryn 8 ай бұрын
@@petersilva037 rural people drive greater distances than city drivers. consider: there are ZERO charging stations in rural areas cold weather reduces EV range by 40% or more, Canada is cold EV range reduces further with age Not everyone can afford the extended range and newest cars I think Tesla are good for city elites - but it’s not suitable for every situation. It won’t work.
@brndnryn
@brndnryn 8 ай бұрын
@@petersilva037 Technology changes over time. If EVs can deliver 500 KM range in -40C, and charge to 100% in 5 minutes, and there are thousands of EV chargers across countryside- people will surely consider. It’s a nice idea but isn’t ready.
@Donquiontee125
@Donquiontee125 8 ай бұрын
not just the upper 20% are worse off, everyone except the upper .5% is worse off.
@mstar7520
@mstar7520 8 ай бұрын
quite the opposite. it's the rich who are worse off, the rest are better off because of the rebate
@poopinfruz9771
@poopinfruz9771 8 ай бұрын
@@mstar7520 Wrong. They also think 50k a year is "middle class" where as that is basically poverty now. how can anyone afford a 300-500k house on 50k a year at 7% interest.
@johnbradley2879
@johnbradley2879 8 ай бұрын
​@mstar7520 the rich are wealthy business owners and ceos they pass the price down the line to their consumers, they do not lose at all
@poopinfruz9771
@poopinfruz9771 8 ай бұрын
@@johnbradley2879 funny how they got people fooled. Liberals have been caught helping the wealthy almost as much as the cons yet people think they're fighting for us commoners
@joeyj3349
@joeyj3349 8 ай бұрын
Also my carbon tax on my last natural gas bill was $127 for one month. I live in a 30 year old split level standard sized home and we run the heat at 20c. It's been the mildest winter in alberta I can remember ever. Stop pulling the wool over peoples eyes.
@FishyFun57
@FishyFun57 8 ай бұрын
Thankfully it’s been a mild winter in Alberta . I started keeping my furnace at 60F at night and 65-68 F daytime. I turned off my gas hot water heater mid Dec. I don’t own a car. My heating bill was $139.00 while the cost of natural gas used was $26:33. I’m a disabled senior and waiting 3 months for a small rebate isn’t workable. I’m fortunate my bank/grocery store is across the street. I push a shopping 🛒 home once a month. When the grocery store offers 15% discount. I shop once a month. I’m barely able to afford my utilities. Groceries is like window shopping, looking for the cheapest food options. No one complains when volcano’s erupt, can’t control what they spew! Plus the earth has gone through natural cycles prior to humans.
@siegfridmast
@siegfridmast 7 ай бұрын
That only shows direct cost. Indirect cost passed on by the supplier, the delivery of the fuel all adds on the final cost. Not to mention added gst or hit to the base price.
@hosnimubarak8869
@hosnimubarak8869 7 ай бұрын
The Bank of Canada said this month the carbon price contributes about 0.15 percentage points to inflation overall. That amount was the same whether inflation was at its peak of 8.1 per cent in June 2022 or 3.3 per cent in July.
@siegfridmast
@siegfridmast 7 ай бұрын
@@hosnimubarak8869 where is that article?
@hosnimubarak8869
@hosnimubarak8869 7 ай бұрын
@@siegfridmast Search for "National Post, What we know about how much the carbon tax is to blame for spiking food costs in Canada".
@rikro6067
@rikro6067 8 ай бұрын
The numbers and calculations are off, but they aim to justify with propaganda pieces such as this one that we actually get more back which is grossly inaccurate and "misrepresentation." You pay more and receive less, essentially, end up having to fill up more often and carry additional cost as a consequence over the month to month basis. These effects compound while you await a quarterly cheque for partial payment into this carbon taxation. Additionally, to state farmers do not have to pay this is also misrepresented by cost of fertilizers and other material cost, on top of machinery. This is supposed to garner support for a failed government policy that has majority of Primers against it, and with good reason under the guise of saving the environment when Canadians can barely survive themselves. The inability to read the room and respond accordingly is tyrannical in nature and similar to many over confident leaders that caused their demise. This one I truely hope the citizens hold him fully accountable to, unlike his handling of Emergencies Act (bloody sunday type vibes), being listed in the Epstein Island child trafficking, WE charity, Aga Khan scandal, SNC-LAVALIN scandal, blackface, relations with under aged students that received payouts, ArriveCan scam, election interference, et cetera. Carbon tax façade is no different, except, just costing Canadian citizens more which we'll no longer be able to rebound from.
@DirtyDog995
@DirtyDog995 8 ай бұрын
Well stated friend
@CardiologyGuy
@CardiologyGuy 8 ай бұрын
"The numbers and calculations are off" says the armchair expert with no proof, just feelings. Wow, you've got a lot of conspiracy theories there bud. How do you keep them all straight?
@rikro6067
@rikro6067 8 ай бұрын
@@CardiologyGuy where's the conspiracies, are that the new term coined for people that do more research and more mental capacity than those who blindly follow everything they hear from government funded institutions without questioning or considering the legitimacy huh. Your response shows that you weren't the brightest of your class and likely one of the many paid as was done by the government during the pandemic to help sentiment.
@arrowheaddev
@arrowheaddev 8 ай бұрын
We get nothing back in BC 😡
@divadivad9164
@divadivad9164 8 ай бұрын
Yep, what a scam. The only thing this money grab has lowered is my bank account.
@pauldorn4422
@pauldorn4422 8 ай бұрын
In BC its just a tax, plain and simple. The opposition party’s are already saying they will cancel it. Remember the NDP only got in because they said they would get rid of bridge tolls in greater vancouver. The carbon tax is a political loser
@petersilva037
@petersilva037 8 ай бұрын
in BC, it's a provincial tax. not federal. Kicking out Trudeau won't do a thing. Same thing in Québec.
@arrowheaddev
@arrowheaddev 8 ай бұрын
And the feds keep the gst on BCs carbon Tex
@LaurencePeters-jp8jf
@LaurencePeters-jp8jf 8 ай бұрын
So when a producer has to pay all this carbon tax, and the truck driver that delivers it pays it, and the distribution center pays it, and the store delivery pays it, and the store itself pays it, not one of them passes the cost on to the buyer. Right. And when the plumber and electrician and handyman pays it for transportation, and purchases from the aforementioned, not one of them passes the cost on to the consumer. Right. I could present a dozen more examples but I really don't think they're fooling anyone.
@toddpowers2936
@toddpowers2936 8 ай бұрын
all these are coved by the rebate. Read the report.
@landsea7332
@landsea7332 8 ай бұрын
Micheal Chang and CBC are intentionally misleading Canadians . The PBO 's report , dated March 30th , 2023 , actually concluded “When both fiscal and economic impacts of the federal fuel charge are considered, we estimate that most households will see a net loss,” says PBO Yves Giroux. “Based on our analysis, most households will pay more in fuel charges and GST-as well as receiving slightly lower incomes-than they will receive in Climate Action Incentive payments.” .
@adune23
@adune23 8 ай бұрын
Transportation is relatively efficient. It's not a big rig truck moving 1 head of lettuce, it's a container full of it. While the carbon tax is 10% of the fuel cost, on a per item basis, that's an extremely small amount. A 10% increase in fuel cost might mean a 2.5% increase in shipping costs. When the shipping cost per item is a few cents, a 2-4% increase in that is a rounding error. Grocery inflation is not driven by the carbon tax.
@MrSoulcross1
@MrSoulcross1 8 ай бұрын
Never mind the directly related extras, what about all the indirectly related costs??? The butterfly effect? EVERYTHING is now effected by this Tax. You will never be able to find a final number. Which means the rebates will never keep up. Sooo. what’s the point in the first place?? Good acting by the way. Didn’t convince me though.
@dinvsl
@dinvsl 8 ай бұрын
Living in BC and getting zero rebate because I’m not a bum on welfare.
@KristoffMorgan-m3h
@KristoffMorgan-m3h 8 ай бұрын
Same I have yet to get even one rebate payment, my brother got one rebate of about $120 then nothing after that. We have to pay more for everything so where's all our money we're supposed to get back? In their pockets not ours...
@roostir1
@roostir1 8 ай бұрын
These types of schemes are designed reward those who don't and punish those that do. The same people protect criminals while ignoring victims.
@jdhogg257
@jdhogg257 8 ай бұрын
Raises the price of gas,food,etc.The rebate is nowhere near of what we are paying.Sane people know this.
@joeisawesome540
@joeisawesome540 8 ай бұрын
how much of the inflation we experienced in 2022-2023 was caused by carbon tax? I will wait for your answer.
@jdhogg257
@jdhogg257 8 ай бұрын
@joeisawesome540 Canada's carbon footprint is around %1.5 of the world.Do you really think taxing the people is gonna help?This liberal government has to go.The banks already said that the increase in the printing of money has contributed to a lot of the inflation which is really up to around 30%.This carbon tax is BS.Canadians are already struggling.Mortgage defaults are up 160% in Ontario just in the last year.Trudeau needs to resign and let Canada back to normal living standards and more job growth.Worst PM in history.
@charlenem9174
@charlenem9174 8 ай бұрын
YES!
@petergarratt9645
@petergarratt9645 8 ай бұрын
Do the math on how much it increases the cost of groceries please
@petersilva037
@petersilva037 8 ай бұрын
they did. if you paid attention to the video, Bank of Canada reports the carbon tax is responsible for 0.15% of the general inflation.... ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZawhZdnrdR3aLc )
@petergarratt9645
@petergarratt9645 8 ай бұрын
@@petersilva037 so how much does it increase the cost of gasoline?
@c-v-n3322
@c-v-n3322 8 ай бұрын
Wow CBC has the comments on
@christinehumphreys6717
@christinehumphreys6717 8 ай бұрын
yeah I guess you forget that the GST is on top of the carbon tax which was 600 million dollars this year and will rise to 1 billion dollars
@lawrencevkim
@lawrencevkim 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait until that misleading broadcaster is defunded!
@carollehince8472
@carollehince8472 8 ай бұрын
FJT
@guigram1124
@guigram1124 8 ай бұрын
Ok, I am positively impressed on finally CBC reported the PBO report showing the economic negative effects of Carbon Tax, economic slowdown, massive layoffs, companies leaving Canada etc. They just failed a few things to explain. The 0.15% effect in inflation is the direct cost only and, its only accounting the yearly increase, not the tax full amount. Also, didnt mention the cost of other carbon taxes we have like the capandtrade systems that is charged in the industry and passed to customers. The charge of GST on top of the carbon tax. And didnt mention the impact in climate of the carbon tax, 5 years of consumer carbon tax and not only one drop in emissions. That makes people wonder if they have to struggle for something that doesnt work.
@rigg4146
@rigg4146 8 ай бұрын
they're just trying to win people over because everyone can see how biased they are. let me know when they start investigating turdos many sketchy business deals, until then they remain paid shills
@al1234mac
@al1234mac 8 ай бұрын
You forgot about farmers, truckers, industry, supply chain etc. Also government administration etc etc.
@GuitarLessonsBobbyCrispy
@GuitarLessonsBobbyCrispy 7 ай бұрын
I have an idea. How about receiving a rebate if you keep your driving under a certain amount of km's per year ( like 10,000 or 15,000 depending on a number of personal factors, like how far you have to drive to work ). You have your odometer in your car checked each year where your renew your driver's license. That would be much better than having to pay a tax.
@intentionaloffside8934
@intentionaloffside8934 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the CBC is not going to be impartial on this story.
@immaleaf4964
@immaleaf4964 8 ай бұрын
I've got it! We pollute in Canada a bit more, increase climate change, warmer winters, less heating fuel is used, so we become more carbon neutral, and then we all make money from the magic tax It is genius
@cramhead
@cramhead 8 ай бұрын
I wish BC would rebate carbon taxes to individuals instead of investing it in things like LNG.
@BronsonWally
@BronsonWally 8 ай бұрын
B.C is a woke and cowardice province, that's the problem
@sandeeptanjore1253
@sandeeptanjore1253 8 ай бұрын
Ditto with "La Belle Province" Quebec which follows the same practice as BC. In fact abolish this carbon tax completely across the country. Don't think it will happen for BC and QC even if PP comes to power.
@DirtyDog995
@DirtyDog995 8 ай бұрын
@@BronsonWallyAnd that's the major reason I relocated to Alberta.
@AsThe3rdEye
@AsThe3rdEye 8 ай бұрын
@@sandeeptanjore1253 You know PP worked for the government that campaigned for carbon taxes in 2008, right? And won?
@bonniemurray8595
@bonniemurray8595 8 ай бұрын
@@BronsonWallyoh please explain what you mean by “woke” . Or do you just like the soundbite?
@sebanc22
@sebanc22 7 ай бұрын
VERY poor selection of opinions from so-called experts. “According to Grain Farmers of Ontario, they're going to see an additional $2.7 billion worth of expense associated with carbon tax. If you talk to vegetable growers by the year 2030, carbon tax is going to add on an additional $90,000 per acre in carbon tax. That's not sustainable.” It appears none of the so-called experts actually own a farm or even know anyone who owns a farm. . VERY slanted
@hosnimubarak8869
@hosnimubarak8869 7 ай бұрын
The emissions from operating farm vehicles and equipment are wholly or partially exempt from the carbon tax. A private member’s bill, which passed the House of Commons last spring, and is now with the Senate, could further expand those exemptions to propane and natural gas, which are used to dry crops for storage and transport after harvest.
@Yoggiman1985
@Yoggiman1985 8 ай бұрын
No carbon tax on electricity. Sorry that is not true. You pay carbon tax on grid infrastructure maintenance. This is including repair crews, shipping electrical equipments/parts on gas powered vehicles... even bolts and nuts manufactured and use by your electricity utility company.
@ethanlee9096
@ethanlee9096 8 ай бұрын
How about the cost of administering this complicated carbon tax system and redistribution of carbon tax rebate?
@geminipwnage2570
@geminipwnage2570 8 ай бұрын
It’s funny to see a media outlet in the PMs pocket try and minimize the real issue at hand! People cannot afford groceries already, but let’s increase the daily cost of fuel so they can go from a loaf bread to just drinking water!
Why don't we just tax carbon emissions?
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