PROOF the Ranked System is Broken in Rocket League

[@CBellRL]

like the video if you've ever had a bad teammate, played against a smurf, or breathed in air before. i expect at least 15 likes with that criteria. Also don't forget to check out the Eswap S Pro Controller, now available at Walmart: bit.ly/EswapCbell

[@Mindful_cat-RL]

Ok

[@Nomamchess1313]

I’m your first reply bro and I’ve got a Smurf tm8 who sold its annoying right?

[@TNTjxsh]

Hi cbell

[@ouziejxsh]

Hi cbell

[@TNTjxsh]

I’m gold 2 and can flip reset airdrible and double tap no cap

[@natedostalik3538]

I feel like it’s impossible to get a win streak going, it’s more like you win a game with a fairly good teammate, then get paired against significantly harder opponents with a weaker teammate, and lose and the cycle repeats

[@JayMaccWRLD]

yes exactly

[@vitrums]

I thought it was me delusional or maybe hidden-punished. I feel like I get a teammate of my level every 10th game or so. The rest of the games I'm either lucky to play vs incompitent opps or I must ff early being completely outclassed by them.

[@natedostalik3538]

@@vitrums same bro I thought my account was cursed, switched to my other steam acc and the same thing happened😭

[@manta3374]

@@vitrumsIt’s worse in one’s. As soon as I hit d2 I’m matching against clear gc’s.

[@Messed-up-monkey]

At the start of this season I managed to party up with someone and we went on a 13 win streak in ranked before we were taken down, however I was 2 ranks below where I finished last season

[@ofekberenholz8431]

I was a huge advocate of "don't blame your teammates blame yourself" but last two seasons been a real struggle

[@xD-ph3en]

Fr

[@Codo_Lyoko]

im kinda the same but man, it just feels so hard to win sometimes, like I feel like I have to be playing at a gc2 level just to win my c3 games, and its also crazy watching monkey moon play in champ ranked 3s lobbies and win so effortlessly ( I know hes a world champion and all but I honestly have no clue what hes doing that's something I cant do as well, he isn't even playing at like 50% in those games, and just plays for his teammates)

[@lolichicken5373]

Bro I swear I wouldn’t have made it to diamond this season if it wasn’t for the last match of the day I got a non brain dead teammate. BTW I have high enough mmr to face low champs

[@Sherokhi]

huge agree for me. Playing against gcs and with kinda boosted c3s. So hard to keep up in 1v2 though

[@alexiswiftrock]

​@@Codo_Lyoko This is a fact

[@asutin]

There's two other issues with ranked that really suck for climbing in the higher ranks: - So many people get tilted and throw a ff or even just go afk, start trolling, or just leave the game, even after just one or two goals. Happens literally like every 3-4 games if you play late at night. - You get matched with the same people every game since there arent that many people queueing. So if you lose a game with somebody get ready to lose with them a couple more times in a row unless you want to take a break between games. Thank you for coming to my ted talk

[@yaboyrella]

100%. You’ll be two down with 3:30 to go and they’ll just throw the match for no reason, it’s like people would rather play the blame game than actually try and take responsibility for the outcome. There should be severe penalties for throwing ranked matches or scoring blatant own goals

[@_melts]

I just block them and eventually I'll only have people left that don't tap out after missing a single save.

[@lukejarvis7994]

Also why people don't mic up for solo q. Voice chat always off for me because people are toxic no matter what you do.

[@lukejarvis7994]

Also why people don't mic up for solo q. Voice chat always off for me because people are toxic no matter what you do.

[@lukejarvis7994]

Also why people don't mic up for solo q. Voice chat always off for me because people are toxic no matter what you do.

[@Mittens]

Honestly this season has been quite strange. Early season is always tough for sure, this season was no different. I was 1650 in 2s in the first couple of days & played in 2200+ lobbies (Top 100 at the time) & I honestly did really well, beat some pros & consistent top 100 sweats. Was able to maintain around Top 100 for a couple days but I'm not a very consistent player & my gameplay dropped off a bit, so my rank did as well. Dropped to around 1500 playing sporadically for the next few days. Ended up burning out so I stopped playing for a couple of weeks. When I come back I figured it'd be super easy to get back to 1600-1700 since Top 100 MMR was 1800-1900+. But I swear it really seems you're playing against players who are similar to yourself (usually much higher MMR) & your teammates are usually ones who are at the rank they should be at. I even dropped into the 1400's recently which I haven't been to in many years. 100% you can say it's all on me, if I was better I could carry my way out. But my autopilot should be able to win me basically every game low GC1 considering I have 12k+ hours & have been SSL every season & Top 100 in every game mode multiple times. I find myself needing to hard focus & mega carry to win games. Some of the players I go against blow my mind with how solid they are. Not the one to usually agree with this stuff as people say similar things every season. But I think with everything going on with the game lately, many players being burnt out & not playing as much as well as the general skill level increase; among other factors, is genuinely causing the rank system to be in broken state. I suppose a solution might be to stop doing soft rank resets? I'm really not sure what the answer is. But this is just another problem to add to everything else going on to cause this incredible game to completely fall apart. TLDR: Ranked is cooked, Rocket League is cooked. Epic please save the game 🙃

[@adroitbean5440]

It blows my mind that players as good as you are ending up in my lobbies for this reason, I've been GC1 for almost 2 years at this point and I've only just very recently come close to GC2, except now I feel like my skill would've easily taken me well into GC2 2 years ago - I'm significantly better than I used to be, but getting white titles and ex GC3s in low 1500 lobbies is making it impossible to push even to GC2 for the first time, i couldn't hold a candle to you so if you're ending up in the 1400s and 1500s I feel honestly hopeless

[@iqnoble4215]

Same boat as this guy, 100% agree

[@misterros94]

You know it's scuffed when Mittens is having trouble in GC1.

[@yoitshanson4164]

Yoooo mittens didn’t you play with the camping rusher back in the day?

[@jbone6979]

You exist still? Lol. Also hard agree.

[@tidalwave0523]

As a c1 there is definitely a problem. Once you get into higher c1 then you start playing some ex gcs and even ssls at one point. I’m starting to realize d3-c1 is like drastically different, but sometimes you q with them and it’s harder for them. Like it’s no dig at people who are d3, it’s just harder for diamonds and champs to get along

[@makavelismith]

D2 here, ex C2 from a few years ago... last night after a huge winning streak in 2s, we got drawn against a fricken ninja. the game tells me he was a D2... guy w ass basically GC+. Thanks RL.

[@Hubertov_]

@@makavelismithbro I was also c2 and now its hard to play in d2-d3 wth

[@michaelpapuchis8071]

I played a guy with a ssl title in my D3 game the other day

[@Hubertov_]

@@michaelpapuchis8071 I am not even suprised for some reason

[@CBellRL]

d3 to c1 is like the last rank you hit before seeing Grand Champs, or previous ones who are washed. It's a combination of a bad ranked system on the backend (literally the system is not working as intended since F2P) and the fact that a lot of higher ranked people aren't playing consistently, meaning they drop ranks and take time to de-rust when they do get back into the game.

[@Nerpah]

This makes sense, I’ve been C2 for few seasons now but this season I’m only low C1 & I even still get games against D3’s who are better then my players I had in high C2 last season. I thought I just sucked but it adds up after seeing this video. I also GRIND when the season drops so I will stop doing that now knowing it’s part of my problem😂😂

[@xjnxi]

bro switched games 😭

[@rohwiceq]

its the same in d1 when i was 1k mmr close to champ and now im stuck in d1

[@noname2226]

I was c2 and lost 2 placement matches so obviously rl put me in d2 and now I'm stuck in diamond playing with absolute idiots

[@Nerpah]

GG ahahaha thats the worst... Diamond is truly the trenches ahahaha@@noname2226

[@Nerpah]

RL has been my fav game for 2 years now the big skill gap is addicting...lmaooo@@xjnxi

[@polek7288]

As a C3, I can confirm I play all my games against GC's and I even come up against them when I drop down to C2. This has been an issue for a couple seasons

[@sanyo692]

Alsoin the last three seasons I got a high c3 like divison3 an a lost on one day 107mmr it horibule

[@Jojo-bj1gs]

no theyre just boosted

[@aaron17171717]

I got c2 d4 last season. Currently c1 d1 and still playing against s12 gc .... I can't get any higher

[@tomasbrcek8528]

chill out, i saw my friend meeting ex-GC's in diamond3/champ1 games.

[@polek7288]

@@tomasbrcek8528 that’s ridiculous

[@kretRL]

me literally getting a C2 and GC1 opponents in casual C1:

[@fabreasy304]

Yep every game

[@CBellRL]

I was in C1 last season briefly and I was genuinely surprised to see so many GC tags and people playing so well. There's still some "real" Champ 1s there, but you can instantly tell who is who lol

[@yourmomsboyfriend3337]

@@CBellRLI would say about 3/4 of my games have at least a GC tag in them at C1. It’s that bad. My friends and I CELEBRATE when we get to play against people our rank without GC tags

[@KeyProductionz]

The worst part is being a champ 1 in a full GC lobby IN CHAMP 1 and everyone’s being toxic to you for being in your own rank

[@09ziyad]

Copium the only reason why cbell and people like you are claiming that is because they are struggling to get back to gc because everyone els caught up to them.

[@BrantleyIAQ]

The smurfs… the amount of smurfs now is insane. Psyonix has created a domino effect. They broke ranked and now higher level players want to feel better about themselves by smurfing. Other medium level players want to hire boosters online to get back to where they were. All the smurfing ends up lowering all the honest players and preventing them from getting back to where they were. It’s a vicious cycle.

[@JGrizzyy317]

This video confirms my suspicions I’ve had for the past few seasons. Ever since I started playing I gradually got better and increased ranks slowly over time eventually getting to C1. Now I’m stuck in D2 or D3 depending on the day and which champs I end up queued against. It’s frustrating knowing my mechs and game sense have both improved yet my rank does not.

[@vitrums]

Exactly my thoughts. All the hours in workshop, training and freeplay yield nothing but a brick wall in ranked 😢

[@Lomon_0]

dont focus on rank, play to improve not win, and best advice i can give is if u got a winstreak play till loss and get off

[@manta3374]

@@Lomon_0fr also remember to have fun with it too. Though I do think playing in the d3 lobbies are preventing my growth bec they’re far slower than a lot of the champ lobbies.

[@LiveKeyMusic]

Exactly how I am. I'm stuck at diamond 2 and I've been champ for the last 4 seasons.

[@koganboss4874]

@@LiveKeyMusic 6 seasons on c1 then 4 seasons on c2... and now D2... after 4000 hours of playing this f*** game...

[@Stravos96]

GC2 here writing an essay. The main issue here is that it's hard to carry teammates once you get decently high ranked due to the way the meta has developed. And no matter what skill you are both mechanically and strategically, there's only so much you can do as a single player and you need to work as a team to some extent to succeed. i believe the thing that makes it feel so difficult lately is that the meta has evolved (at least in NA) in such a way that compels players to just always instantly push the ball upfield whenever you have it regardless of your team's positioning or boost and try to make a 'hero play' where you use flashy aerial mechanics to outskill the defenders with a solo play. the problem is that defenders have gotten so good that you rarely ever score on a first chance like that anymore and all you really end up doing is passing the ball back to the opponents who then have an even cleaner counterattacking opportunity than you just had. the first team to get overly aggressive ends up being scored on. basically, its the more advanced version of the classic beginner mistake of just booming the ball forward when you get possession. whenever you try to push a slight advantage such as simply only having the possession of the ball, you will get counterattacked even harder in return. my advice is to stop trying to push on small advantages that you have and only play for a goal once you either have a massive single advantage like a direct counterattack opportunity or many smaller advantages such as full possession of the ball (opponents arent close enough to challenge you for a while), prolonged offense, boost starving/boost advantage, forcing opponents to slow down at times where your team can stay fast (if your team has to slow down too then it could actually be really bad for you instead, so dont take too long). also, whenever you gain possession without enough advantages but are forced to move forward anyways, try getting out into offense in a slower way than you might normally do - the goal here is to preserve boost, delay for teammates to be more prepared with you, and bait a challenge from the opponents. unless you get them to mess up badly, you often want them to challenge while you stay behind the ball and get a weak 50/50 BACKWARDS to your teammate or to your back corner boosts which is even better because then youre assured that the teammate can take full ball possession with 100 boost at the same time while you reposition with pads or even a 100 boost yourself. instead of a 50/50, sometimes you can even turn away from the 50/50 and let the opponents hit the ball hard behind you to achieve the same effect. easiest move in the game. just do nothing and let them outplay themselves by hitting it too far away while you get a headstart on your rotation and positioning. this is especially great for when you realize your aerial play is doomed to fail and you just give up early while the opponent's challenge comes in and you use the rest of your boost to get back into a good position quicker and fill up on boost, meanwhile your teammate was able to get free possession and continue the offense because the opponents hit it away from themselves. but what do you do when your teammate has the ball? this is a lot trickier. when you have the ball yourself, you can control the pace of the game and use whatever strategies you like. and often at high levels of gameplay, that means that at some point you will create a winning position for your teammate to then continue the play instead, which means that you no longer have control of the game from that point on. with such a selfish and aggressive meta right now (and whenever you think you deserve a higher rank than you are), you cant expect your teammates to do the same for you, so what can you do? i deranked down to champ myself briefly at the beginning of the season because teammates would constantly lose possession in devastating ways. after working so hard to create winning situations for us, they would always ruin it. what brought me back up to gc2 was learning how to play the game better while off the ball in such a meta. i now assume all teammates' plays will fail instantly and give away possession. my main goal whenever they have solo possession of the ball is to take the ball back to our corner boosts and completely reset our attack with full possession and full boost for both me and my teammate. if the teammates' offensive play is developing fast, ill often swing wide on the opposite side of the field at high speeds as well, ready to cut inward or backward for a save if they mess up badly / waste a lot of boost doing nothing and youre now in a 1v2. if so, use your continued high speed to steal possession of the ball going backwards to your corner boosts where both you and your teammate can have full possession and boost at the same time and hopefully create an even stronger attack. sometimes when stealing possession you can resume the offense right away instead, but note that unless you have a really good setup and position, youll probably just end up throwing the ball away yourself as well, especially since your teammate probably wont have enough time to recover into a good position with boost as well to help you out if anything goes even slightly wrong. keep in mind that you are choosing to 1v2 them for a while in this case and its your fault if it fails and gives them a good position afterwards. if the teammates' offensive play is developing slowly and dangerously, or youre just not quite sure whats going to happen (they might be low on boost and baiting a 50/50 for example which could pinch anywhere) , just stay standard and safe by being well enough back on defense, make sure youre full enough on boost, maintain speed whenever applicable, but basically just overall be a good last man and wait for something more concrete to develop. if you have enough time to do so, you can even swing a little wide like the previous option and aim to secure the ball back towards your corner boosts. if the teammate's offensive play is developing slowly and safely (starting a full boost air dribble with full unchallenged possession for example, especially if you see it really early on by them rolling it up the wall at mid boost first for example), immediately rush to the opponents and be a nuisance to them as much as possible, threatening bumps, demos, boost steals. even if you try it and fail, your presence alone will mess with them and they wont be able to get as good of a possession even if your teammate fails badly. often, again, even in the worst case, while doing this you can still maintain the speed and positioning required to swing around the ball and take it all the way back to your corner boosts before the opponents can get to it. but if things go well, the opponents will at the very least be struggling to defend for a while and you will either directly score or often be able to build up more advantages as you keep up the offensive pressure while they cant get possession and are slower and lower on boost than you.

[@naturally_rob]

This. But also, I went down to champ 2 at the beginning of the season. I stopped playing comp for a week and when I went back in to solo queue, I went on a win streak. Somewhat easily winning against GC's who are also in Champ 2 but were frustrated. Now I'm back in GC 1 and climbing. It got miles easier once I made it to GC. The games are more coordinated. I'm not stuck with crappy teammates who just do the NA thing of what's basically ball chasing or bang ball (the most mindless and boring way to play RL). But also-also, MMR being solely based on win-loss and who won/loss to is a system that's bound to fall flat in accurately ranking players. There are so many factors that are in play that are have not been considered with the MMR system in Rocket League. It a statistics problem. Psyonix (Epic) has the data, but it's only used for player stats. Despite this, I agree with what you said. There is a way to adapt, there nearly always is. When you watch pros, they play as many possibilities as possible. The difference is that they sort of trust their teammates. I wouldn't trust my teammates in solo queue, but I also wouldn't ball chase and take the ball from them.

[@KestrelOne]

This is such a great post. Thank you.

[@FaonPage]

I feel like these two guys too, I'm stuck C2 C3 and I really needs to beat two GC tags everytime with a dude that doesn't touch the ball at all the whole game. I put 4 goals on my own with pure 1v2 and the second I turn my back and it's my teammates time to play or defend he gets scored on or give the ball away in front of our net (when he's just not straight up going for the boost at the other half of the field) and now they scored 4 goals too while I was rotating and had no control over the game. Sometimes I go watch the replays to see what I could have done better and everytime I find myself playing ok and switching to my teammates pov to see how gapped he is by the game. It's not even his fault he's probably what a champ player should look like but you switch to the other side pov and it's clearly not a match. You can see this is broken because the moment I find a teammate that actually plays the game around my level I spot it in the first 40 seconds of the match and it's EVERY TIME a 8-0 or some stupid score like that. This is so annoying because even if you don't play for the rank you can't see your progress getting rewarded, this feels to me like you can progress all you want in freeplay, training map and pack etc and you will never see a good enough transfer of skills in actual ranked games. I was even starting to use wall dashes to start recovering and rotating faster to minimise my teammates placement mistakes. I had to 1v2 so bad I had to learn WALL DASHES, IN C2. Anyway that was too much I don't have the energy to play 2k games a season I just stopped the game.

[@joshlampe3458]

I've experienced this in the lower ranks too, this season is aweful and they have consistently got worse every season since Epic took it over. I was c1 two seasons ago, and I'm stuck in D1 playing underranked competition with poor teammates. I'm not sweaty, solo queue most of the time, and don't care about my rank, but there is CLEARLY a problem.

[@sabersting1274]

I’m exactly the same dude final hit c1 a couple of seasons ago, I’ve put so many hours in since then and I’m way better but I’m hard stuck in d1-d2 🤣

[@joshlampe3458]

@@sabersting1274 Its just weird matchmaking, really lopsided lobbies. If I actually cared about my rank I would've quit long ago 😂

[@Ronaldo-vs3uh]

​@@sabersting1274 this is exactly my issue. I hit c1 3 seasons ago by hitting the ball hard, 5/10 aerials and 4/10 positioning. Now i have improved to 7/10 aerial and at least 7/10 positioning and peaking at d3...most times im d2. Keep in mind i am not mechanical, not then or now.

[@sabersting1274]

@@Ronaldo-vs3uh I feel you I focused on rotation and positioning when I got to champ with zero mechanics (couldn’t fast aerial or attempt an air dribble) now I’m way better at those things but stuck in diamond😂😂

[@Ronaldo-vs3uh]

@@sabersting1274 pain bro

[@Astro_Snoopy]

Yeah the ranking is a serious struggle. Like I’ve been hard stuck gold 3 div 4 cause I’m out here facing diamond tournament winners and high plats.

[@MegaDanielSK]

I used to play ranked to get consistent matches but lately I feel like there's so much variation. I peaked at C2 but now I'm struggling at low C1 with either my teammates being too weak, or with me lagging behind significantly. Very rarely do I get an evenly skilled teammate. Combine this with random opponents and you usually end up dominating the opposing team or losing miserably. At that point you really can't make out whether you're actually making progress or not.

[@X1mizzle]

Probs not Ur tm8 fault

[@Spitts]

This is spot on. Previous season GC2 in 2s but this season I'm c2-c3. I've mostly been playing casual this season because I get matched with high GC and some SSL players and it's actually easier to play with/against higher ranked people. You're teammate will be much more reliable and predicable and once you learn to challenge properly it doesn't matter if someone can do 8 flip resets. Champ teammates seem to spend 95% of their time in freeplay and are super good with mechs but have zero clue how to actually play with a teammate and limited boost.

[@_XRMissie]

> it doesn't matter if someone can do 8 flip resets Finally, someone that sees the light.

[@joerv]

The depressing thing for them is, learning these advanced mechanics and flip resets are, in my opinion, the hardest things to learn. If they just address the main bottleneck which is knowing when and where to do these, combined with rotation and boost management, they could easily hit ranks much much higher than they are.

[@SamirDevs]

It has been the same for me too, being matched up with low plats against ex-high diamonds/champions in the plat 3-diamond 1 range

[@christombert5964]

Yup I have the same problem. The soloq experience got so worse, it’s not actually playable in champ. It’s not every second game that your teammate leaves or ffs early… it’s even more often

[@jotarojoestar9385]

Yeah i'm also in champ i agree a part of the reason its hard to get out of champ is teamates, i feel the skill gap between your teamate and opponent is big, but another huge issue in champ is the amount of gc's and ssl's in my lobbies. My teamate will always be champ but my opponents are always gc1 or higher. I dont think ive played against an actual champ in months

[@SCARLO.]

ur the problem

[@reddleyTV]

This explains why my D2-D3 games went from feeling reasonably challenging to suddenly feeling like I was facing literal gods every other match. I usually chalk it up to smurfs when I face someone with lower MMR who plays like they’re lightyears ahead, but if they’re actually high champ players who have drifted down and are struggling to get their rank back up, then it makes total sense that they would destroy me (mostly because I suck at the game).

[@axelminus]

My duo mate and me used to be solid C2 players, but this last 2 seasons we have been struggling to get out of D3, despite being better than back then (imo at least). So I am sorry if we ruined any of your games, but I can promise it is not by intentionally smurfing

[@Randm_Gamin]

I'm also stuck in diamond for the same reason

[@mchiggo24]

@@axelminusthis is not dissimilar to me. I was solid C2 and peaked C3 and for the last 2 seasons I’ve ranked into D3 then not been able to get above C1d3. The amount of GC’s in C1 is ridiculous and it always seems to be when I have the most idiotic teammate 😂. I wanted to grind GC but now I really can’t see it happening

[@MRMcNUGGET15]

Here’s my perspective. Two seasons ago I was 3 wins away from making champ in duos. Now I’m hovering between diamond 1 and 2. I play champ players all the time in casual and have no issue beating them. What screwed me is when playing placement matches this season, 5 out of the 10 games I had teammates that were afk, so I was playing 1v2 for HALF of my placement games. They REALLY need to add a feature that negates any loss where a teammate leaves

[@SmeagolTheGreat]

You are 100% describing my experience.

[@blahblah49000]

They have needed to write 10 lines of code to get rid of AFKers at the start of matches, what, 8 years ago? 9? It's inexcusable that they haven't. But people keep giving them money, so what incentive do they have to change?

[@Darrian.]

They had that but people abused it. People could leave to save each other's MMR. Even randos did it.

[@olz7544]

As a player stuck in c3 right now but was 1502 peak last season, the way to rank up this season is playing less mechanical and more as a very good second man cause you just cant always trust teammates with how broken ranked is. In other words solo queueing it is very difficult to reach GC this season.

[@manta3374]

I try doing this but it’s so boring 😂 I wunna play to have fun fr

[@5n1pe13]

Ball chasers!

[@davethegamer1232]

I'm a 1500 mmr player rn and c2 and c3 are easy

[@urethical]

@@davethegamer1232dawg cause your legit gc 💀

[@davethegamer1232]

@@urethical how are those 2 gcs losing to 2 c2s lmao though? Unless it's a fake video which I think it is

[@SALEENS7GTR5]

Feer uploaded a video yesterday showing off games with Monkeymoon in C3 lobby... I know pros don't always queue ranked 3s, but seriously? C3? Monkey will have to play so many games to get back to SSL and then back to top 100 and demoralize every one that goes against him in the C3-GC ranks. It's so silly.

[@jakquinn4207]

Nah you're wrong there brother I saw the same vid or a similar one, look at Monkeymoons games played in 3's he's not even finished his quals in a few seasons the pros don't play ranked standard very much; what's the point for them?

[@Lomon_0]

monkey moon wont care to play 3s to get to top 100 hes doing it bcs of rlcs quals rumour so hes deranked over time and hes tryna get back up now ur point is invalid

[@KindleSole]

They don't want you to play! Honestly this rank resetting and configuration has been going on since the beginning, remember for a while everyone was talking about being grand platinum? That's because that actually freaking happens. This whole comment section is flooded with people who were 2 ranks higher but are now struggling to get out of that hole. What's the point? It's making the season rewards meaningless. On top of no information or updates for UE5, no official support for custom maps, quality of life updates are bad, keep introducing new bugs without knowing how to fixing them, they have actually taken away more than added, shop items are over priced purposely, smurfs are still a huge problem and the committee just keeps getting more toxic. I definitely feel like my wallet is all they even care about. The game has become like a bad girlfriend/boyfriend you don't need. You want to leave but you just cant.

[@christombert5964]

11:11 I think that’s the biggest and most frustrating thing. So as you said you can rank up by playing good defense. But the problem is that your m8 who is actually a champ, is consistently panicking. So the only realistic chance to rank up, is by simply outperforming and basically winning 1v2. Which is impossible since your m8 will get upset because he wants the ball. So yeah I have absolutely 0 clue how to rank up. I’m playing the most consistent I’ve ever played, I have hit gc as a soloq main even in 3s last season. But now I can’t even get it in 2s, even tho I feel like I have improved my own gameplay and playing close to my peak. But once your mate doesn’t understand the fundamentals, there is not much you can do… just hope someone on the other team has a worse experience and maybe get frustrated

[@CBellRL]

this is exactly the issue for GC1+ people who are stuck in Champ. You're a good player, but its hard to carry your teammate and make up for mistakes made. So essentially you have to be GC2-3 to really carry most games... in Champ 3. Crazy lol

[@Clxyytt]

Yeah that’s what I had to do to get 1600 this season, I was outperforming my tm8s by a minimum of 500 points a game until I started playing with an ex ssl (my new 2s partner) and we’re managing decently now. Solo queing was horrid tho I was 1v2ing every game even in lo-mid gc1

[@Danitusho3j]

I heard one time. The important thing u need before play Rocket.....take a friend with u XD. I know we're talking about going solo without group. But seems like u need it

[@chrisgore8597]

I had a match yesterday in d3 where I consistently outplayed our 2 opponents and set up my teammate, but they always whiffed what I thought would be a straight forward open net. I never use quick chat except to say no problem if someone apologizes, but the very instant I miss a save after dodging a demo they said okay and voted to forfeit, even when it was only 1-2 and there was 2 mins left in the game. I don't understand the mindset that these players have, they don't seem to enjoy learning and growing I guess. There would be situations where you can tell that the other team was backing off to get boost, and instead of catching the ball and controlling it, their best thought is to boom the ball down field every time, only for the opponents to catch it and make a threatening dribble play just like I was hoping my teammate would have done. They're just built different I guess

[@nahvae]

I resonate with this so much. I only solo q, hit gc in early 2022 and have hit gc in every mode and season since. This is the first season since then that I’m stuck in champ in 2s and 3s. My games feels utterly impossible, I am frequently scoring 800+ to lose the game. And don’t even get me started on the smurfs in 1100-1400 as well. I have an ext to see how many games an account has played. Legit over 60% of my games have smurfs boosting a friend to try to get gc.

[@dualitywolfie]

I first hit GC in S6. I was on my GC game this season when the lobby is suddenly playing much faster than I was ever used to. Compared to my last 10 matches, there was definitely something off.

[@bean_au371]

I usually float around d2 but this season I’ve dived down to plat 3 after placements where I STILL see champ tournament tags, banners, explosions etc. This issue is pushing everyone down the ladder I feel

[@7dayspking]

D2 and now plat 3 in which modes? That's roughly my ranks. I see Diamond and sometimes 'Champ' tags. But they're usually tournament winner tags, not champ rank tags. Different things.

[@VintageCR]

those titles also hover in plat, its less when you hit plat 1 but gradually more titles when you climb the ladder. meaning either those players are forcing their lose streaks OR are stuck in those ranks.. which i simply don't believe.

[@darkest_thief]

@@VintageCRI mean diamonds can easily get stuck in play if they get tm8s that sit in net

[@misterros94]

I've been GC1 for 12 seasons now and the last couple seasons have definitely been scuffed. The way I describe it is that GC1 feels no more difficult than in the past, but getting to it is way more difficult. I've peaked GC1 div 4 several times, and regardless when I've fallen to Champ 2 (which is several times over the last few months) I get stuck for several weeks. I'm pretty mechanical, maybe similar to the Champ 2's in this video. I have a little montage of clips here for reference: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6Tad62LhaaNe7c But it really does feel like RNG in mid Champ. Do I get the ex-GC's and we stomp? Or do I get the "normal" Champs and we get slapped silly? I'm currently sitting in GC1 in 2's and Champ 3 in 3's. When I was Champ 2 this season, it felt no different than now in GC1.

[@shockzybeats2107]

100% accurate

[@SCARLO.]

it seems like you've hit ur skill ceiling and are starting to fall off

[@lukebrown7651]

@@SCARLO. that's not a thing

[@n1ck_kc1n]

yikes@@SCARLO.

[@T3n50r]

My highest rank has been GC2 div iv. I haven't played Rocket League actively since S5 but have gotten a few games in each season. I struggle to get out of C2 now. Although I understand there is a skill issue in terms of this I find it strange that just maintaining C3 or even getting to it should be a problem at all.

[@SirMail]

I am currently in C2-C3 and I have ran into a few SSL'S from a few seasons ago.

[@Epicmango9]

I totally agree with this video. Ranked is just not as fun as it used to be. Now a days ppl are so toxic and I get teamates who are gold and stuff when I'm in platinum. Along with this, some ppl in my rank flip reset and have champ tournament titles so it's just blatantly unfair. Either I get good teamates with incredibly strong opponents or weak teammates with incredibly strong opponents. I even tried to dm psyonix but that didnt work. Psyonix, if you are looking at this specific comment. Fix your game. Please fix it. Skilled based matchmaking is a blatant lie.

[@legendarysilent-6864]

Same,every second 3s game in plat 1 there’s at least one player with either Champ Tag,Champ goal explosion or a full team of diamond tournament winner,I mean wtf,I’m plat 1 ffs

[@theone3337]

The main problem is parties with at least 1 Smurf in there. Apparently before free to play, solo queue and parties were separated. It should still be like that

[@Epicmango9]

I agree, but yesterday when i was playing ranked 2v2s one of my opponents left so it was a 2v1 and my team was up 4-0. No way we lose right? Well then my teammate starts own goaling and saving my shots. He scored 5 own goals and saved 3 of my shots. Had to forfeit and play something else because i was so mad.@@theone3337

[@ratlord155]

how do you get golds if you are plat? Im c3 and the everybody in the lobby is pretty much same mmr -+20

[@curlywhites]

@@theone3337 There were 2 separate queues, but it wasn't as restrictive as that. Solo players COULD queue up on standard 3s. But parties COULD NOT queue on solo standard. Ergo, parties were restricted, solos were not.

[@fourcode]

Same thing happened to me at a lower rank. I was C1, struggled to get back to that. I took a break at the end of a season and played the very start of the next season and de-ranked to d1.I'm playing better than I ever have now, excellent ball control, positioning, field vision, mechanics, everything is way better than I used to be. But I'm struggling to climb back. I struggle to compensate for the overcommits, complete misses and more. Sometimes I basically have to 1v2 to win. Sometimes my teammate leaves and I start doing better. I've had games where teammate was AFK and I was up a goal or two, they came back and started playing and quickly lost us the game. It's so frustrating. I've also noticed there is a huge variety in skill level in the rank. Lots of overcommits and throwing the ball away, setting up the other team, as I would expect in diamond, but struggle to deal with. But a few games the players have solid game sense and mechanics. There seems to be a sweet spot where you can get stuck about a full rank below where you should be. You aren't good enough to outright win games there by just dominating the lobby, but you are enough better it's hard to predict when the players will make just awful decisions because you aren't close enough to their headspace. I got hard stuck back in platinum for a while, but that was different. That was definitely a skill issue I needed to level up. I have bad games, but a bad game here and there doesn't get you stuck.

[@Codo_Lyoko]

you could play 6mans I think

[@blahblah49000]

The fundamental problem is matching solos vs. stacks. If you're a solo with a random, saboteur teammate against a club stack on talking on Discord, you're not going to win unless you're like a full rank below your peak. You have to be better than all the other players in the game, combined. You have to be able to outplay your own teammate on top of the other team. So if you're watching some KZbinr doing an unranked-to-SSL series, that will be no problem for them, as they can basically glue the ball to their car and fly it into the net past everyone. But if you're a peak GC1, you're going to start hitting an invisible wall long before GC1. The only solution, as a player, is to stop solo-queueing. You're offering yourself up as a sacrifice for others to have fun at your expense. The real solution is for Epic to sell off Rocket League to someone who cares, who will spend like a week reforming the system, who will be willing to make a few tough decisions to make the system competitive again. That can only happen if we stop giving Epic more of our money. As for me: NOT. ANOTHER. CENT.

[@bennettstruttman4357]

You don't have excellent ball control and mechanics if you're stuck in D1

[@Bennici]

Bro the same thing happened to me. We were quickly down 3 goals within the first 30 seconds. Then my teammate ragequit. The game ended 3-1. Not only was I doing better on defense playing 1v2, I also scored a goal without my trash teammate. An extreme example, but not an exception either. So many times you rely on your teammate to make the most basic touch (or any touch), and they completely whiff, don't rotate, own goal and then ragequit on you. How are you supposed to keep a good mindset with that going on?

[@Matty335i]

I’m C2 right now, was GC1 for 4 seasons and now stuck in C2…. Every match I get into is definitely against other GC’s…. Most of my opponents (90%) have GC tags on, as well as me. It’s ridiculous. It makes no sense at all. And my tm8 for 2s is a prior GC2 and we’re both still in C2. Yeah they need to fix this, it doesn’t make sense at all. And I’m also C2 in 3s as well.

[@punishr2.]

How do you suggest they fix they? Everyone says it has to get fixed but can't say how. It's not epics fault your teammate has bad wifi...it's not epics fault your teammate throws...it's not epics fault your teammate is toxic. That's nothing epic can fix. And all of those "gc" that aren't in gc anymore most likely aren't actually good enough too be gc. You have to remember the game is progressing each and every day...OFC it's gunna feel harder and harder to get too bc it is. Players that were once able to get gc can't do it anymore. Which is why they get caught in the hole of c2 and c3. Now there are obviously some exceptions ofc there are some good players are trapped but 9 out of 10 times they aren't good enough. Rl is such a day by day game. One day you play great the next you don't. So maybe you feel you have a d2 teammate but the next day they get gc2 while you get c2 because it was a bad day. That's not epics fault

[@Matty335i]

@@punishr2. you’re missing the point. I The grand champs im playing including me were GC last season, and now are stuck 2 RANKS below GC…. It’s not making sense. And every match is against other high rank grand champs that are all still in C2. And mind you rocket league also has a bad smurfing problem but that’s a whole other topic, they can fix it by taking away SSL and going back to standard ranking and MMR how it was… that’s what started all this shit in the first place. And I never blamed epic for any of the shit you listed so idk wtf you’re going on about writing a book🤣🤣. And it’s not that they’re not good enough, it’s that to get out of C2 they have to beat other 1600-1700mmr grand champs to get back to GRAND CHAMP…. That’s the issue lmfao. And mind you the matchmaking has gotten worse too, my friend was C2 div 1 and played 2 C3 div4 players in 2s in a match… how?! That’s horrible matchmaking. You can stop dick riding epic now, there’s a reason even pro players are complaining about this as well. I also talked to another pro player in discord and he was telling me during ranked this season when he was grinding back to ssl he was in 1600 MMR in 2s playing 2 other SSL players that was ssl last season… explain that…. Don’t make sense right? You get it now?….

[@paulscod]

Would love to see ssls vs these c2s/gcs and see if the ssls could tell the difference between them

[@wolfattackz187]

I mean obviously not considering the "C2"s beat current GCs.

[@punishr2.]

Haha I'm sure me and greyhound would gladly accept the challenge 😎🙏 part 2???

[@brianagler3329]

Ive been getting into C2 the past 2 seasons after starting 1 year ago and it is insane how varied everything as far as teammates and opponents.

[@yawsanevruh1116]

My friend and I used to be Champ 1 around a year ago, but for the past several months, we've been struggling to get out of Diamond 3. In every other game, we get paired up with a teammate that scores an own goal on us, and then spams "What a save!". If not, they always at least once in the game, will pass the ball directly to the other team, which puts us in a terrible spot and we get scored on. I don't know what we're supposed to do about that. If we say "Nice shot!" or "Great pass!" at our teammate, then they start playing against us and now it's a 2v4. We always report these guys and we get at least one person banned every week (mind you, my friend and I only play on the weekends because we're busy with college during the weekdays). We literally haven't even played Rocket League in a month because of how horrible the ranked has been. My friend and I find casual games to be too easy, so we play ranked, but then we just get the worst possible teammates in ranked. We're sick of our teammates own-goaling, passing the ball to the other team, playing against us, and ending up with below 100 points every other match.

[@YT_Z3ROX]

The champs should play every ranked game together they work so well with eachother

[@punishr2.]

Haha, appreciate you!

[@napoleonthe_real_one]

Nice mechanics@@punishr2.

[@punishr2.]

@sebastiaanvanderpauw4594 appreciate you bro! 🫡😎🫶

[@nickbiancuzzo]

As a GC1/2 this season so far, I can say YES! I was stuck in Champ 2 / 3 forever before finally breaking out. I've been 1875 at peak...so something is definitely off.

[@justabathtub]

im a peak gc3 player and im now in 1350 smth def off lmao

[@xjioin8881]

I’ve been diamond 3 and now I’m now to gold 3 when is rocket league fixing this

[@xavierxerxes6254]

How'd you manage to breakout?

[@SCARLO.]

@@justabathtub ur washed

[@nickbiancuzzo]

It was a ton of grinding, and then I found a teammate that matched my playstyle and I used comms@@xavierxerxes6254

[@stianhofer1433]

whenever I get close to diamond in 1s, I get a previous champ and get cooked

[@PureGeauxld]

Ranked 2s and 3s are both significantly harder right now. I have improved dramatically over the last 6 months and I fluctuate between D3 and C2. It has become so much more important for me to warm up in freeplay and Casual before I queue ranked. I play a lot of Hoops as well and have been dealing with GCs in C1 for the last couple of years, so I feel comfortable with this situation in Soccar 2s and 3s. My consistency is the main issue.

[@globe7843]

I have 5600 hours and solo queued to grand champ previously. What I've found is the game plays differently the higher you go. A lot of things like spacing and positioning, understanding what ball is yours to hit and which ball is better played by one of your teammates. When to apply pressure, when not to fall back and continually bring themselves under attack. The lack of ability to direct a pass that is properly weighted and in the correct direction, the lack of understanding to play the ball where your teammate has a higher chance of winning it, ie not passing it to the other team and giving away possession with no gain. But the biggest thing for me is that I expect for example that the right person will be in the right place at the right time and play the ball in a beneficial manor and that rarely happens which leads me to have to change how I play as I have to spend more time playing in a fashion where I can cover teammates errors so that we don't lose 2 weak goals for no reason and lose the match. Another thing is that for how I play keeping momentum is incredibly important, however I constantly can't play at any great speed and keep my momentum because teammate a or b is in a position which prevents me from being able to make the play that I want to, because to make the play would create an unacceptable risk, that I'm aware of, so need compensate for. It's basically like this, you're only as good as your teammates, how they play will affect everything about your positioning and decisions, unless you are unduly reckless, in which case you won't go to grand champ, because if you don't understand those basic fundamentals they will be exploited consistently by the opposing team. So I see a lot of players who spend a lot of time playing over the top plays, that they shouldn't have made because they have opened us up to danger, when they could have made a more simple play to keep possession for example. In my opinion they think that to be a good player you to be ultra flashy, so they've practiced scoring flashy goals, but don't have the base fundamentals and their ego is telling them they are a rlcs world champion. Anyway Rocket league is my favourite game, I've played since Beta and i can say it's honestly just painful to play nowadays. The enjoyability of having teammates that understand and can construct plays, where you can really start to enjoy the game is gone. That leaves me feeling like ah rocket league can be so much better than this. For me the best matches have been the closest matches, tight competition and whether you lose 2-1 or win 2-1, that was a bloody good game, enjoyable. Anyway that's my input. Be well.

[@Kzoiks]

I'm just a d3-c1-ish solo-queuing player but fully agree with this. It's always been a bit RNG with if you get teammates who know how to play and can be relied on to be there where they are supposed to be but with this season the range between good and bad teammates has grown so large it's no longer enjoyable to play most matches. Because the bad ones are also the toxic ones usually, blaming everyone but themselves. And the well-balanced close matches with good teammates that are fun to play with are getting increasingly more rare, while getting very unbalanced parties or blatant smurf parties as opponents is getting way more common.

[@IlyasNashid]

true its fun to blow the other team out but coming from another gc its so much fun when the entire lobby is cracked i feel 10x more locked in and i dont care that much if we lose because its fun but thats so rare

[@Montagic]

Dude never felt something so hard. Being a former higher level GC and getting fucked by this MMR stuff has been extra hellish because you end up developing a play style that fits in that rank, but then it’s a toss up whether you’re going to get someone who plays in that way or not. It hurts my soul

[@driesjansen5001]

just get a teammate with a similar style and play with him/her. I'm very lucky, I have been playing rl since 2016 with my best friend and we always play 2's together. We play exactly in the style you mentioned as we enjoy it both the most. We play more strategic then mechanical (although we have some mechs ofc since we're GC xD) and its funny to watch some people go for flip resets and air dribbles on their own half like wtf you doing haha.

[@Montagic]

@@driesjansen5001 that’s definitely the way to go, but also hard to find folks right now 😅

[@Splindaugh]

literally every single game feels like I'm playing gods on the other team. People with Champ tournament titles in G3

[@Porter00]

I definitely agree that ranked is in a real bad spot right now, but a huge part of solo q'ing that people overlook is the ability to adjust your playstyle to compliment your teammate. Punish and Greyhounds are a great example. If you're able to play around and support passive and aggressive playstyles, you will have less bad teammates. Save a replay with a horrible teammate and watch it from their perspective, there is probably a few things you could have done to be a little more cohesive with them. I do hope that Epic finds a way to fix the imbalances, especially early season. I just doubt Epic will even admit that there is a problem.

[@mabaws1254]

This is perfect advice. I'm usually the passive player that makes passes but when my teammates are passive then I'll switch to support them. I didn't do that before and used to blame teammates for not playing aggressive but realised I was the issue lol

[@stupidiocy]

@@mabaws1254 lol, same. I solo queue 3's and would always blame "bad" teammates for a loss (mostly it was their fault lol). Then I realised that I am them. Not good, not bad, just completely and utterly inconsistant. Now most of my games are played as 3rd man, because it's clear that at my level (plat) nobody else wants to play 3rd. I just pick up the loose balls when I can, and when the other two aren't constantly turning on it and beating me to it to stuff it up. I wish more players (at my level) would learn how to rotate properly, most seem to just rotate 1 and 2 (rabid, drooling ball-chasers) over and over. /end rant.

[@mabaws1254]

@@stupidiocy I feel ya, there's been so many occasions where I've just given up due to the fact no one is rotating properly or too many double commits (I don't mean from me lol) I'm D3 now which is my highest ever and it's definitely more consistent at this stage where within the first 30 seconds of the game everyone will either switch their play style or play the same to match their teammates flow. A lot more breathing room lol

[@stupidiocy]

​@@mabaws1254 Bruh this is what I want. To reach a level where I can actually grow amongst others that are more tactically aware. Obviously technical skills are important, but I feel the tactical side of the game is often overlooked. Newer players will immediately try to learn how to air roll and flip reset before learing how to rotate. Training bores the crap outta me, so I try to improve whilst playing (and watching KZbin lol), but I doubt I'll progress whilst solo queueing. Currently I'm not good enough to carry every game, so if I have an off game we often lose. I tend to just yo-yo up and down plat. Right now it feels like I'm forced to play a certain way. if I'm not 3rd man, there is no 3rd man kinda thing. Makes the game so frustrating.

[@aaronzabaron]

This is true but not always; in my experience in Diamond, there’s some games where you just literally can’t do much at all, or at least any attempt to make a successful push down field is then bastardized by your teammate coming up from behind and taking the ball when you still have effective possession (or something similar). I played all weekend and the amount of times I was paired up with a ball-chaser that never rotated and never tried to pass or receive a pass was more times than I could count. OR, one that was okay mechanically but never paid attention to enemy possession/movement or teammate possession/movement, which is when I usually say, “yep they’re a 1s player”. I was second guessing myself on every game I had like this, and decided to start looking at the teammates tracker stats when I feel like I’m not the problem, and lo-and-behold, their pie chart is primarily goals and very little % of saves/assists. Sometimes it really just isn’t your fault, and I think this season is showing that.

[@celestialcat29]

I have been C1 for the last few seasons but in this season I have constantly been getting ex-GC teammates and opponents, they always seem so irritable and ready to snap at me for making mistakes but I can kind of understand their frustration now

[@tofufish2004]

As an ex-GC myself, it gets super frustrating when your opponents have defence at a GC level but your tm8 cant defend simple flip resets or play backboard. Going 3 losses straight quickly ruins my mood and temper and if you happen to be the 4th player who can’t play at GC level, well you know exactly what happens. Not blaming you or any other champs who should be champ, def a problem with the rank system. So just take the toxicity with a grain of salt. Quick tip to get into GC is def work on backboard saves and pre-jumping air dribbles earlier as first man. Best of luck this season 😂

[@celestialcat29]

@@tofufish2004 Lol yes I agree and thank you

[@rpgaudiovault]

In 2022 I was peaking at Champ 3 Div 4 and consistently mid champ 2. Now in 2024 I'm barely staying in Champ 1. It's a huge struggle.

[@HL-rl7or]

Shame literally nothing will happen tho, epic bought the game just to merge it with Fortnite to make a mid asf racing game (there are millions of racing games why would it even be special). They’ve made literally no attempt at improving the game what so ever with the sole focus on cosmetics. rocket league truly is the one game that scratches that itch no other game can but i find it harder and harder to load it up because it’s just an obvious cash grab now and it couldn’t be more blatant

[@Drrobverjones]

Something I have noticed is that as a diamond 1 I am consistently getting placed in games with people that have the champ goal explosion from last season. And they play like it it too. It's actually been crazy.

[@DjoBalixCreator]

Jep, in d1 now and was champ last season😂

[@factor00001]

Ive noticed that there is a massive jump in skill+speed from 2s d1 to d2 as well, and im not good enough for it. Solo queue tm8s hate me / go toxic when I manage to pop up for a couple games.

[@retro_jojo3159]

My teammate takes a chug of beer after every goal. So we start off strong and I end the night pissed off at how slow his reactions are. I'm stuck in plat because of alcoholism

[@punishr2.]

Haha, enjoy the game while you still can tho

[@cKarmaRL]

I’ve been gc1 every season for over a year, I took a break to grind Diablo & came back a full season later. After 8-2 placements I was c1, and now I’m honestly struggling to hold mid c2 in 2s & 3s even though I feel better than ever..

[@MohammedAli-tb7zc]

I recently took a 6 month break from the game, before which i was mid gc1 in both 2s and 3s. I revisited the game recently and started in c1lmao and am now in high c2. I think the issue has been longer standing than you think. I touched upon it in my steam review, the constant incentivisation to boost people to gc has muddied the waters of c1 through low gc1. And so, the luck factor manifests itself in either versing easy opponents who were previously boosted, or very difficult/impossible games where you're paired with someone who was boosted. Pair this with the general toxicity of the community, and you get a really unfun environment to play in. It keeps the ball rolling because solo q'ing keeps getting less fun. So yea, I believe gc rewards are the sole reason for this issue which has been brewing for years now.

[@enterprise1568]

And that also has created a ripple effect down the ranks as well that’s cause the ranks to be off like a rank or 2 from what the system says you are

[@Snafsy]

literally same situation for me, mid-high gc1 and then a six month break and now stuck between c2 div 3-4. Down to q 2s anytime lol. im getting an aneurism from these solo teammates

[@dudenukem1594]

ive also never witnessed so much quick forefeits its 0:1 and people want to forefeit. guys lets all get it together and not let the toxicity take overhand. but also ranked is really broken the matchups are not fair! it should not be a requiry to queue with premade partys.

[@Dragon90210]

Im in the same boat as these guys this season ive peaked 1500 in both 2s and 3s multiple times but this season so far 1400 has been the peak and early on i was almost back to c1. It seems like the ranks are just getting worse every season and that its more about luck than skill at this point.

[@highvoltage4857]

Literally described my entire situation, I've been stuck in C2 for 2 years. Hope they fix and great video (I know it might be on me but I'm seeing GC after GC in my games for a few months now)

[@postverifiedlifestyle]

If it’s been 2 years that’s on you brotha ngl

[@PocoLoco7474]

i think thats all you buddy...

[@highvoltage4857]

@@postverifiedlifestyle yeah i took a break after a year and when I came back this situation was starting and I went from c3 back down to c1-2 for the next year might be on me

[@EwanRosak]

Ranked is screwing me up a lot actually, I know im a plat but the thing is my teammates are actually braindead. My teammates cannot rotate and im left in 2v1. I do keep getting plat 3 but keep losing it again because of teammates cant rotate

[@ryanlur]

I kinda have the opposite problem. I've never been GC but when I queue against ex-GC players I win almost every time because I actually know what they're doing. I'm not a mechanical player so I lose against players who are actually champ bc they suck and I have no idea what they're doing but I'm not mechanical enough to just score on them.

[@myth2571]

I actually did have this problem for about 2 seasons straight, and I wasn't able to get into c2 because of it. I would get c2 then instantly lose it because of the rank problem. I got a gaming laptop which I was normally a pc player, but didn't have one for quite a long while so I was playing on a ps5. The input delay held me back a lot, but now I have this gaming laptop. I have been training my mechs a LOT, and now I'm in c3 like I used to be. It's crazy how much better I had to get in order to get c3 back. I feel like I would be high c3/ low gc1 if ranked was like it used to be. That's sadly not the case anymore though, and I have a ranked team8 who also used to be c3. He hasn't had c3 for about 3-4 seasons now because of all this shit.

[@Nichrysalis]

What's been working for me in ranked has been playing extra conservative. Wide rotations, defer to defensive positioning as a second man, buy time for your teammate's positioning when you're third man with an opponent barreling down on you for the shot, etc. The quality of teammate varies so wildly but mechanically I feel like players have never been better and playing conservatively seems to give you a good margin for error to counter that discrepancy. But... it's not a fun playstyle, and seems extra susceptible to tilting because it's about being opportunistic, it gets me results when I solo queue but I'd rather wait to get on with my friends so we can sync up and don't have to rely on that playstyle.

[@cyberigneel2525]

Now, take your approach and remove the part where you q with friends. That's me in c2-gc1 this season - an absolute salt mine.

[@MattandCarrieJourneys]

Im only plat but the range of opponents i play is absurd. One game half the shots are whiffs and the next my opponent is hitting flip resets

[@jamesmorin8772]

I just ran into and teamed up with a decent teammate with similar skill and who used voice chat. We ended that session around 950 while my peak was 808. Just a bit of “I might have a pass for you here,” we didn’t even have to call out to avoid almost all double commits. One teammate who understands spacing and teamwork and the results were massive

[@Kophe3e]

these are the best kinds of tm8s imo, like even if you get a smurf on your team they suck ass compared to these

[@razenmouserl8592]

I hover around C1/C2 and agree that it’s saturated. But I personally enjoy queuing early in the season so I get to play more difficult opponents.. even though I loose a few mmr. Currently at D3 bc I queued too early in the season but. I like to play to improve instead to playing to just rank up. Love u CBell

[@yacobe_]

You get it. Even though playing against a higher rank is annoying, it's literally the only way to get better.

[@SALEENS7GTR5]

That's a good mentality and one to carry into every match, and it does feel good going up against better players occasionally. The frustration comes from what this video shows; people who should be higher ranked are somehow fighting to survive in lower ranks. You then could queue into those people next, not people at your rank or slightly better than you. Even if you play around the same skill as you were last season, every game is a wildly different experience of skill. Then if you queue against higher ranked players, your teammate(s) could be struggling with someone lower like you and "buffing" the skill of your opponents. So ultimately, you're not really facing better players, you're getting imbalanced games and negatively feeding into your losses and other's wins. This is a trend to the final day of the season. At least if you do lose thinking you were bested by much better players, it won't impact your mentality as much. But there comes a point where repeated losses can not attributed just to "they are way better than me." Or else you would just be trading wins and losses, the rank system correctly putting you where it should, and not losing MMR.

[@hedworm]

Solid C1 here. Every match is a gamble. I never know if one dude on the opposing team is a GC. it FEELS like every other game, im against a GC. This season, the skill gap in ranked is more blatant than ever. Its so frustrating to be ranked against a true GC opponent one game, then the next my regular tm8 and I absolutely destroy some dudes 5-0 to FF. I dont get it.

[@pjr3896]

I'm not in champ but me and my friends feel this so hard. We're all in low diamond and are constantly getting champ tournament winners in our lobbies that are somehow diamond 2 (or sometimes actually in champ) and then randomly getting a gold 3 player in the next game. It's just so discouraging trying to get win streaks with lobbies that just are not consistent

[@Xerinity]

tournament winner badges mean nothing, their actual rank is diamond, the tournaments have a separate mmr system

[@pjr3896]

@@Xerinity ik they have separate mmr, but there's no shot they're diamond MMR in ranked but are champ in tourneys and can win it, when me and everyone I know are the same rank in both tourneys and ranked. They also were passing to each other in the air, which is very much not common diamond 2 behavior

[@thomassilva7246]

Can confirm. I'm the former champ that can't get back into champ lmao

[@BlackBearCustomKydex]

I'm not a high rank. Currently I'm at Diamond 1, but I can tell you for sure that ranked is on its head. For about 18 months, I was mid to high diamond, piquing at champ 1. Not exactly the world's greatest player, obviously, but damn... The past 2 seasons I've barely been able to get out of plat. What's crazier is that after 5 years of farting around with RL casually, I finally started to learn some mechanics these past few months. I'm currently playing better than ever by a HUGE margin. Not even close to my previous best. But I'm getting clapped in plat 3 lobbies?! Just 4 or 5 months ago, if I had a bad losing streak and dipped into plat 3, I'd annihilate the other team in a solo carry and be back up after just a few matches. Seriously, what the hell is going on?!

[@xtoasty8720]

I dropped to plat 3 from champ 3 I haven’t been on a loosing streak I just don’t rank up when I win and my opponents are always better than my tm8 I need to get at least 5-8 goals to win and average 700 score

[@BlackBearCustomKydex]

@@xtoasty8720 dang man. I feel that. It's wild out here on ranked! If you wanna add me and run some 2s, I'm down! Hydr8ordie is my username.

[@TylerLinstad]

Honestly! I’m in plat and I’m worse than I use to be. In one hand I I’ve learned new tactics like team play and aerials. But on the other I lost my dribbling, flicks, shooting towards net, shots from back boards, bank shots, aaaaaaaand double taps

[@dubbu3543]

being in this range, i see the struggle. But people aren't realizing why you're losing and how this video doesn't truly explain the differences in rank. The reason i think theres a struggle for the two c2s is because they finally had the chance to socialize and work with one another through comms. The other 2 gcs are most likely gc because they're better at adapting to situations that only arise when having a random teammate, something i feel the c2s would struggle with when playing ranked.

[@KJOokami]

Yeah, this definitely carries even down into Diamond. I peaked at D2 div4 before the MMR squish as someone with literally gold level mechs because I just had good positioning and rotations. Over the last several months, my mechanics have gotten significantly better. I'm much more comfortable off the wall, making backboard saves/clears, and I actually have a presence on offense in addition to the solid defense I already had. Yet despite my massive improvements all around, I'm now stuck in D1 and just barely keeping myself from falling back into Plat3. Feels like every other game I'm up against 2 Champs with a teammate who throws up the ff vote after 1 goal and then trolls the rest of the game when I don't ff with them. It's insanely frustrating.

[@Zenikai_]

im having THE SAME THING. i've been a consistent 950-960ish mmr player for the last 9 seasons. but the last 2 i've been struggling in d1 and this season i was P3 from the start to just a week ago. like wtf is wrong with the rank system that a solid d2-d3 player just randomly falls to p3 in 2 seasons???? thankfully my duo and i started training and popping off this last week. we are now back to 900. sadly EVERY PLAYER we get is an ex champ tourney winner. i think we've faced like 7 teams IN TOTAL who didn't have the champ winner title.

[@lah-teeda6030]

This. Absolutely this. Diamond is full of smurfs in addition to the trapped champs who shouldn’t be stuck playing against diamonds

[@joeykoch5664]

Sounds like you are overcommiting and leaving your teammate in 2v1s. You should keep track of how many times you attempting an off wall play leads to a goal and how many times it leads to a 2v1 counter attack. Watch replays from your teammates perspective.

[@ShadowBrave21]

im was c1 and im d1 now i can tell you those are champs that you are playing with in d2 div 3-4 and in div 1 actually too

[@ObsessionTheCat]

I feel you. I was d3 div4 at 2's and d2 div3 on 3's and this season after placement matches I was on d1 at both, but currently went back d2 div3 in 2's, but I mainly play 3's and it's just constant movement between plat3 div3 lowest to d1 div2 highest. And same as you, my mechanics has improved a lot in few seasons, but it really doesn't help when most of the matches feels unbalanced.

[@SillyDilly-p6q]

same for me i dont play that much my peak was high c2 atm im in diamond2 and if i queue with my c3 mate i would say 50% of the matches im above him in the scoreboard and he also says im definitely a high champ player its just though with this unconsistency in enemies and teammates you face and the fact you have to play sooooo much to really get back to your old rank and if you really wanna get higher you have to spend all your time in rocket league .... obviously like that you also cant progress your skills if you always struggle to get teammates that are the rank you are atm if skillwise youre much higher and need better mates .... in 2s you dont win matches by playing ego .... its always the team together that matters

[@tako6036]

As an average last season gc1 that is hardstuck in c2 i can say 1 thing for true: It's easier for me to win against GC1-GC2 in scrims than to climb back to GC1.

[@kkg3004]

I am currently in diamond 1. Before ranked changed, my peak was diamond 3 and I had beaten a lot of champs before, including smurfs, but ever since the ranked change, I have been playing against ex-champ 2 people with ex-platinum 3 people. It's really annoying and that's why I usually like to play heatseeker more, because it's not about skill, but strategy.

[@Just_JoshE]

Same, before this season I was D2-3 for years, and now I can't get out of Plat. I've played people with Champ tourney titles and teamed with people with Gold tourney titles.

[@amaggard14]

I’ve been champ 2 in 2s and champ 3 in rumble for the past 7 seasons, but this season is the first season where I’m stuck at diamond 3 division 3 and every time I get close to champ again I go back down a few ranks.

[@-R32-]

i feel you 😩

[@zachadkins8010]

I am literally the champ 2 that's never seen GC you're talking about because of this.... So many GC reward titles in my lobbies :(

[@zOriginYT]

Happens in GC as well. I was low 1800s in 2s like 2 or 3 seasons ago and havent come close since. I think at best i reached 1720s just barely gc3 last season. Heres my theory. Players have gotten better, theres definitely less new players to give the lower ranks more level playing field, so all these players even from the 2020 free to play era are finally in the higher ranks (I hope for your sake lol). So now diamond is the new bronze, and being champ means your average, and most people are fighting for their lives with the thousands upon thousands of champ+ players. Lets face it the bar has been raised and you need to come up with better ways to stick out from the rest. Any of you who remember GC in the years before F2P know GC compared to now was a complete joke. Im definitely sweating way harder now to maintain GC than i was in legacy season 14 as a newer GC player. It just proves the competition is just way better and thats okay. Although youre struggling now, youre way better than what you were a season or two before. Remember that.

[@KyroRL]

a few seasons ago i was high 17, low 1800 and i have been stuck in 1500-1600 playing 1900s lmaoo, its fucked

[@matteodonato3918]

I'm an EU player and I'm witnessing the same problem. My peak is 1500 in both solo 3s and solo 2s, but now I barely manage to get out of c2, honestly i feel like my problem is that i really struggle to adapt to a tm8 with c2 skill and end up trying to play too fast for them, so they leave holes in the rotation and everything falls apart (+ champs are really trash at defending ngl). Differently from the guys in the vid i'm not a mechanical player at all, i'm very focused on basic mechanics, positioning and speed (efficiency basically), so if my tm8 sucks i have a very hard time hard-carrying the match, cause solo playing my way to a win it's not my playstyle, especially if my oppos are monkey challenging me every second like champs are known to do

[@lennardvarkevisser6739]

if i may ask, why do you solo queue if your experience keeps being that negative? Grats on getting so far tho mmr wise

[@matteodonato3918]

@@lennardvarkevisser6739 cause I play at random hours and I can't wait for some tm8 to log in just to play some matches :) I'm in a 3s team actually but when we're on we mostly play scrims

[@lennardvarkevisser6739]

@@matteodonato3918 aah understandable! I was wondering because i used to solo queue a lot too and it sucked the fun out of the game haha. Enjoy your day mate

[@FourLeafGroverRL]

To be honest it’s only broken in 3s. In 2s I have no problem winning. For reference I’m usually around GC3, I’ve gotten SSL before. I came back after almost a 8 month long break and was in C2. Quickly ranked up to GC2 / GC1 in both game modes. 3s I queue with my GC3 friend who is GC1-2 right now and we struggle. 2s I solo queue and it’s literally so boring, nothing like the skill in 3s at the same rank. I will say I’m probably a GC2 skill level until I get back into it, but 3s does feel harder than usual. For reference I’ve been higher than GC2 for the past four years so I’m used to the lobbies.

[@dallinw8592]

I think something to consider is the unnecessary expectations of formerly being gc as well as the current gc’s. It’s mentally taxing and throws you in loops mentally, especially seeing as ranked is extremely inconsistent it puts you at a disadvantage mentally. (Don’t sleep on the mentality) That being said this is a problem for all ranks. The community as a whole has an issue with expectations. We expect our tm8s to be perfect and as soon as they mess we seek a scapegoat. We likely expect ourselves to be somewhat perfect due to the correlation between viewing others and ourselves. Expectations are resentment in waiting. What is resentment? Resentment is defined as bitterness. I think it’s definitely amongst the spectrum of anger. What is depression? Depression is defined as anger towards the self. Expectations=depression Rocket league community=depressed However there is a bright side to this idea! Why do we hold ourselves to such expectations in the first place? Why do we expect so much from our tm8s? Well, we’ve gotten this far (x rank) I know I’m good I know I’m capable. My tm8s here in the same rank. Ideally that means they’re similarly capable right? At the core expectations are simply the BELIEF that you or someone else is CAPABLE of achieving something. You’re tm8s have such high expectations because they BELEIVE in YOU. You believe in you. You can’t control a toxic tm8 but what you can control is how you perceive their toxicity. They just believe in you. And they have an ego so it comes out all funky. Ego derails this communities minds. People become attached to their successes. In turn their failures. But the truth is neither one defines who we are. Just because you hit a three pointer last time does not guarantee that you will ever hit one ever again. Just because you missed your last three pointer does not guarantee that won’t EVER make one. Now comprehend the analogy and translate that to your rocket league rank, your ability to hit an open net, your mechanics. Translate it to your life. Nothings that deep. Just enjoy life. Don’t stress out over some fucking title that no one’s ever gonna care about. Ask yourself, why do I desire to play this game? Is it the title or prestige? (Cares about others perception of you) It could be anything really. I’ll tell why I play (Peak rank C3 D4) This is the hardest game I’ve ever played. There’s no other skill set that’s transferable. The sky’s the limit. I’m gonna hit GC so I can beat the game. (It used to be peak rank and there’s no way in hell I’m spending more than a 1k hrs on this game. Or any game) Hope this message helps someone out there gain perspective on their situation, either in rocket league or any facet in life. Everything I said is extremely transferable.

[@derpillionaire]

worth reading surprisingly

[@dallinw8592]

@@derpillionaire bit long winded, but it has to be in order to accurately paint a the picture of someone’s psyche🤷‍♂️

[@dallinw8592]

This is just my understanding and perspective on it definitely open to other perspectives. Hopefully I conveyed it decently

[@derpillionaire]

You seem like a thoughtful and genuinely nice person

[@dallinw8592]

@@derpillionaire thank you brother, i think being called a genuine person is one of the biggest compliments a person can receive so i really appreciate that! it holds so much value in a world full of facades. also i try to be kind rather than nice. theres a big difference and i think thats where the genuinity comes to fruition

[@mtbewan5632]

I’m going to take the opposition here. I’m right on the edge of gc (I’m c3) and it’s more a problem of demotivated childish children or adults who are overly frustrated. You take an ssl like lethamyr, he is doing road to ssl and does not have a problem. It’s a problem of positioning and skill most of the time. You just need perseverance rather than using “ranked is broken” as an excuse. You look at anyone who is gc 3 or ssl and they get back no problem. I would also like to mention the experiment conducted here that the gcs probably have more consistency than these other players. They have everything to lose with nerves and the c2 s have absolutely nothing to lose and get to prove their excuse.

[@rheon6699]

There was a problem though

[@flameflixplayz]

I find gold 3 and plat 1 have a lot of diamonds, its season 17 rn and I get a smurf in half my games in 1s

[@adeadbush]

Great video showcasing one of the many issues Rocket League currently has... On my part, I've been stuck in Plat 3 for more than 2 years, and lately I feel like bad matchmaking luck has had a lot to do with it. I can consistently beat diamonds, yet in the rank up game, the game always screws me over. It's frustrating.

[@jotarojoestar9385]

lol imagine only playing against gcs and rarely ssls in my champ lobbies, i can win some but i obv cant against ssls. I feel like champ is the worst rank to be stuck in rn because i feel like the skill lvl is not champ at this point anymore. I remember when i was hardstuck daimond only playing against champs... its a mess

[@JP-st9hn]

@@jotarojoestar9385That’s where I am rn. Diamond is tough to break out of…

[@eznemo2346]

k thats a skill issue to a large extent bro

[@punishr2.]

Glad you liked it 🫡

[@crystallizedrl]

broo same vibes i was plat 3 - d1 with no sweat last season now i need to sweat soooo hard to be only in plat 3

[@rasmusjakobsen6970]

Im a gc2 atm and i tried to smurf in c2 to see how it really was. I felt like my opponent was always better than my teamate, and i was actually kind of struggling. I ended up winning 7 out of the 10 games.

[@jredacted8229]

You're the problem😊

[@ChiiLoX]

I might've missed something I am not realy that deep into rocket league. But I was a GC2 div 3 for a while like 1-2 years ago, and now I am barely GC2 and drop often below GC2. What I thought was that they just changed the MMR for the different ranks you need. So they either put GC2 on a higher mmr now with a wider range or the lower GC1. In my opinion I am better than I was back then for sure, only difference is the old GC2~ is the new GC1 div 2-4 - gc2

[@noahguttormsen]

Pov: You are playing in champ and everyone is GC!😠

[@vSmokeyK]

We just gone have to thug it out bro

[@punishr2.]

Sorryyy 😬😬

[@noahguttormsen]

@@vSmokeyKyh 😢

[@YHWHsam]

U just get that gc experience for free 😅

[@punishr2.]

@@YHWHsam exactly!! Soon gc won't be what everyone is bragging about it'll be champ haha

[@gordonramsey7186]

I’m glad I got this recommended to me because I was losing my mind. My absolute peak was gc2 and I was literally hard stuck in c2-c3 and i fought like hell just to get back to low GC. My advice for the hard stuck players in c3. Try playing more passive. Try covering for your team8s mistakes

[@socc3r7k1ng]

The big question is 1) how long do you wait & 2) If everyone waited, wouldn't you have the same issue lol?

[@JMAX79]

Dude that letter was great. You’re hilarious cbell.

[@dylanbulinsky5637]

after trading got taken away that was probably a lot of mid range champs so that might have something to do with it me and all my champ even gc friends quit completely

[@brtbstn]

yup... same story. peaked 1500 been gc from s6 to s11 and s12 s13 were complete ass. im usually chilling between 1200 and 1300 getting matched up with either c1's or gc2's. its ridiculous. i have played with my friend, who has been more careful not playing early season, in gc lobbies, got a 10 win streak for his rewards, but me, nope. solo q is not working. there is a hell between 1200 and 1600 its crazy.

[@LeoMumford]

I was about to hit champ and now I struggled to get out of plat, but I'm a lot better! I have been in GC 2s lobbies and won. And yes it's only been like this for a couple of seasons, maybe 3 at the most. It's a very new problem

[@TheDevil69270]

Thank you for doing this. I solely play RL with my wife, we've peaked at C3 right before the hard reset from a few seasons ago and never got back to it since then. We hover around C2 and every match is different, we'll get clipped on in the first and then go on to win 7-0 the next game. But I learned to stop caring, we're approaching 30 and could not care less about our rank, we play for fun at night after work and are super proud of what we achieved ! Ranks are a marker of your progression though, I could see people getting mad

[@ojuic3]

im gold 3/plat 1 and sometimes ill get a match where the opponents and my teammates are like plus or minus 10 mmr, but the next game I get placed against 650 mmrs and once I got placed against 2 plats with a silver 3

[@batmanstudio]

I was stuck in c2 in s7 and became gc2 div 3 in less than a week

[@jwsrandomart4818]

Crazy at one point I went from d1 last season to clawing my way up from g3 now I’m stuck between p2-p3

[@wulfgardh]

Im hardstuck champ 1, and i get a lot of grand champs as opponents in ranked 2s. It is just irritating that they aren't even smurfing, their rank is just simply champ 1 somehow, and we can not get out of c1 bc of them. (ik, im not a very good player, otherwise i wouldn't be hardstuck c1, im just saying that it's extreme diffucult to rank up, and the Gcs just making it more difficult)

[@sihir.]

i think people are in the wrong ranks, but this should be what high champ should look like.

[@garb.5220]

i dont really get how theyre stuck, was around 1550-1650, took a break for several months and was immediately able to get it back starting from around c1-c2, not even playing that much

[@punishr2.]

Well this was also 2 almost 3 seasons ago 😂 I agree this season is much easier to rank up. I'm gc2 rn and I don't really know if I should be 😂

[@oropo01]

That’s crazy because I’m in their exact situation. I peaked at 1494mmr 2 seasons ago and I’m currently at c2. Funny thing is most 2s lobbies I queue have at least 3 players with gc titles. Great vid Cbell!

[@deaninkinal3801]

BRO WHEN ITS MY RANK UP GAME FOR CHAMP I GET A TM8 THATS D2 AND THE PEOPLE I PLAY AGAINST IS CHAMP 2 AND A PLAT 2 LIKE WHY DOES IT DO THAT TO ME?!?!?

[@buttery_waffle]

I'm a champ 2 and have been for maybe a year going to champ 3 then back to champ 1 but I usually place in C2. These guys in the video were very good but its not unusual to come up against people similar in skill and pretty much every game I load into at least one person has a GC title, however that person is very rarely on my team. Now I don't want to be that guy but I think with the current ranked systems it has become more and more luck based on whether or not you win a game due to the extremely wide range in skill. I would like to believe that I am worthy off of GC based off of what some of my SSL friends and an Ex-RLCS pro has said about me but I've never had the proof to back that up. I do hope I get the rank some day but based off of how the ranked system is, I don't think that will be possible unless I can find a consistent teammate to play with. P.S. Loved the vid keep up the great work!

[@bubbasernie5762]

I took a break from the game and came back and played with a friend. We played some comp and were losing a lot. I looked at our mmr and was like “I don’t remember struggling this much at 1150 mmr”. If I was able to identify that without having known that the community was having issues with ranked after a break then there’s definitely something to it.

[@abrick7016]

This might be a hot take but as someone who has being playing on and off since sarpbc. I don't think it's as much as the ranks being messed up (ranks still wonky for sure) it's more that they havnt done consistent rank resets which allowed the higher ranks to become over saturated and allowed people get to used to and belong in a rank they probs shouldn't be in if there were seasonal resets. Personally iv hit gc 2 div 3 and I think that's way to high for me I probs should've been low gc 1

[@badateverything2931]

how do u suggest they reset

[@abrick7016]

@@badateverything2931 seasonal/ bi seasonal hard resets.

[@RicardoRamirez-zh1tg]

They should make it were you can't get demoted ngl (my opinion)

[@draemonberger1221]

Every diamond - "That's not champ!" (I'm diamond 💀)

[@Bio333yt]

I was plat 2, i ranked up to diamond 1 div 3 and then my tm8 s started playing like golds. The worst part is that i played in a d3 lobby because of a friend. I ended up playing way better than all those d3s😭😭