CBR600rr Common Issues: Weekly Wrench

[@timdavis6088]

As an owner of a 2004 600RR for the past 20 years it's not only the vent/drain hoses but also the fuel line itself you need to watch out for. The fuel line has a groove in the airbox and a clamp on the fuel tank. Make sure it gets back into both. The trick to raising and lowering these tanks is to; 1) As you raise the tank pull slack in the hoses from the bottom by removing them from the holding bracket. 2) Use a bungee to hold the tank by looping it around the tail pipe and then hook it in one of the holes on top of the tank. As you raise the tank feed slack to the hoses so you don't pull them off. Lowering the tank is where it gets tricky. WATCH your MAP vacuum hose on the (R) side. I can't tell you how many MIL lights and "my bike is running bad" threads we've answered and all it was was the MAP sensor vacuum hose was knocked off while lowering the tank. You'll need to be good at repackaging. Release the bungee and slowly lower the tank while you pull the hoses from the bottom so they don't get pinched. I use a zip-tie on the drain hose bib to help hold that drain line on. Watch your wiring harness on the (R) side as it likes to get caught underneath the tank and also watch your grommets at the tank bolts. Don't force things. If you have aftermarket devices or maybe a charge pigtail running under the tank watch those wires as well as they can get caught and pulled by fulcrum forces or crushed under the sub-frame/fender. One thing I'd like to mention is dirt dobbers or potter wasps. They can build a nest inside your hose within minutes of you leaving the garage door open. Let alone storing one outside for any length of time. So make sure you confirm the drain line works by blowing compressed air through it from time to time. You can also check for pin holes in your tank by plugging that drain line and see if the fuel tank is being pressurized with compressed air. We'll have to disagree on the PC issue. It is a tool and you make of it what you will. I wouldn't own this bike without one as Honda's horrible throttle lag almost drove me crazy the first few months of this bike. Recalibrating the TPS is ridiculously easy and, presto, no more throttle lag. You need to remember that in 2004 there was no such thing as flashing an ECU for this bike. But with a PCIII I can set the fuel map for my bike with my specific mods for my valve clearances and my BMC air filter. The problem is most users don't understand what they're buying let alone how the fuel mapping actually works. So if you're referring to users who buy them and then install some cookie cutter map, then yeah. They're useless to that user. But all of the serious buildings that I'm aware of use the PCV with an AT-300, and a POD300 to map and custom tune their bikes.

[@stevenferris4733]

I bought a f4i with a rusted over flow and it was rusted through inside tank, I simple put a gas approved rubber hose inside of the metal one, it took awhile to find just the right size but that was three years ago and no problems to date, it's my daily driver. The price for a new tank was almost more than I paid for bike. Thanks MD you always have good stuff! Steve F

[@nicoson9578]

did you get the actual diameter so i can do the same thing? Thanks bro

[@PABLOESCOBAR-ph3el]

WOW I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF THIS. I GOT 2 CBRS I WILL CHECK IMMEDIATELY.

[@j656]

Gud luck pal 🛐

[@holleyp28]

coating the tank will work. My cbr600f4i had rust in the tank when I purchased got a killer deal and had only 2000 miles on it. Have had for it 5 years and still running like a champ. not sure of any issues that may occur down the road from coating the tank but seems to be going strong.

[@ababbit7461]

I find it funny when people by a RR bike and then put a power commander on for street riding. What? They spend money on pipes, air filter upgrade, air box mods and a power commander to try to get 3 hp or so more power. As if the RR bikes are not fast enough... Engineers do a good job making a good street riding bike, but some yahoo needs to over think the engineer because some marketing guys says "its the best." Good video brother, thanks for the tips!

[@TheMotorcycleMD]

Totally agree with you. Especially here in Norfolk, VA. You will never reach that bike full potential here in the streets. Why do you need it “faster”? They are already insane!

[@technician006]

I bought mine fixed up and restored it to almost stock and it feels more powerful.

[@cbrchris5306]

I’m sorry A Babbit but from above comment I assume you have no idea of the concept of how an engine works and what science is behind it to increase HP and TQ, I’m a bike and car mechanic and my 2016 600RR does nearly 200mph after particular mods, timing, air/fuel ratios, oversized valves and proper sprocket combinations with some weight reduction. Checkout my channel if you wanna learn. Power commanders have nothing to do with this hose, it gets forgotten during reinstall with NOOBS. Power commanders with the proper knowledge and correct dyno tune makes bikes run cooler and smoother. Stock bikes run extremely lean for emission purposes meaning your stock sports bike is running at about 60% or less of its full potential.

[@jordan_.zx10r]

ive gotten all of these and my bike feels smoother, more responsive, better fuel mileage, and overall better.

[@ManifoldSky]

I’m sorry@@cbrchris5306

[@509FUN]

Great tip man! Great video I’ve bought many bikes second hand with some of those pipes pulled off

[@LanceWinslow]

Thanks, this is GREAT information, now I understand what happened.

[@jmannUSMC]

Since watching this vid I've started squirting WD40 down that tube to displace any water and check if it's draining right. Do it at every oil change.

[@davidblackwell6914]

Had this same issue with my 05 1000rr after three years of owning, it busted in the extreme heat after all that time of not breathing, always make sure to pump gas in the overflow line if it leaks right out of the line onto the ground it has air.

[@TheMotorcycleMD]

I really like that idea of testing it. Great thinking man!

[@davidblackwell6914]

@@TheMotorcycleMD learned the hard way right in the middle of Myrtle Beach during bike week tried gluing the busted hole happened again and glued more thoroughly enjoyed the rest of the week got home replaced the tank always put gas through the overflow line to keep it clean and free.

[@TheMotorcycleMD]

@@davidblackwell6914 Well played brother, well played!

[@poormansportfolio]

Can u do a video on what to check for on a cbr bike..wanna buy a used one just wanna know what else to look for

[@MirrorlessFrame]

Thank you for this! Great video!

[@cyclesportservices3323]

So true seen this many times on some of my customers bikes and they write it off as it was just a pos tank Honda used but it turned out to be caused by them or the previous owner or technician that serviced it last

[@jonahmillerduvalrazed]

One of the first things I noticed whenever I started ranching on this bike was that the hoses get kinked up if you don't pay attention

[@Hawk7886]

If you don't know how to wrench, don't mess with these machines.

[@kevingardner3027]

Hey Cody thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and incite.I have a unrelated question i have a 2015 cbr1000rr sp I have a high idle of 13 to 14 thousand and a little bit of a rough or uneven run just off of idle in gear and moving at a slow cruse with little or no load on the engine like neutral cruses .If this were a carberated older bike like what im used to it would feel like the carbs needed to be synced .Have you come across anything like this ?can these throttle bodies be synced ?

[@nicoson9578]

Thank you Cody for this video, it helps me to ID the problem on my 04 600rr. question on this problem, does it leak gas? see my bike is leaking gas and im talking about big drops. I am going to pop the tank and look for any leaks. will the rust on that main hole on the filler gap make it leak gas?

[@osamaabdelgader9426]

Thanks for this video.

[@randytravis5263]

Thanks a lot very good information 🤘 I have a question about my 1991 I have tried a number of things to fix this bike but it's still not Right when it runs it comes in and out of running good one of the only things I have not done is the stator. Would the bike run if the stator was bad?

[@dewidimoni8860]

I have an issue with my 1996 CBR900rr. It cuts off once it's warm. Starts right up idles great then after a minute of riding it dies. I've cleaned the carbs changed the coils and spark plugs. I'm stumped and debating selling it. Please help.

[@MirrorlessFrame]

I am new to learning about CBRs and bikes but did you check the fuel filter being clogged causing the engine to starve. Or your fuel pump is dying. Let me know if that was it. Look and see if any of the hoses are clogged under the tank. I am looking at a 2004 CBR 600RR tomorrow. Wondering if it's a good bike after all these years. I'm starting to become a Honda fan. I mostly have been learning Ducati's. I grew up around bikes just never concidered getting one myself until this year.

[@dewidimoni8860]

I found the issue, the small breather line on the gas tank was clogged making a vacuum in the gas tank and causing the carbs to run out of fuel. I drilled a hole in the gas cap, put a pipe fitting in it and a little rubber hose on that and it runs like a champ!!!

[@MirrorlessFrame]

@@dewidimoni8860 That's awesome! Congrats Bro! Sounds like ya girl is ready to dance again, Cheers from Los Angeles!

[@dewidimoni8860]

Oh yeah, ripping her to work again this morning. It's 26° here in NC

[@MirrorlessFrame]

@@dewidimoni8860 You are true brave! My mother back in the day would ride all winter upstate Ny on her 76 / 750 Bonneville. I hear them glove warmers are the shit if you don't have any yet. I am not worthy!

[@johnnyoconnor2771]

Hi great video, just wondering if one the honda cb750 carburetor is one of the chokes supposed to stay open or is one of mine siezed.

[@TheMotorcycleMD]

Seized!

[@gideonsikk8733]

So what is the best fix for this problem

[@rushiron8867]

Hey there, not sure if you are still checking comments on here. Had a question, I have got a CBR600rr 07 model. I have gotten it majorly serviced and it runs really well. Though from time to time and it could be months apart. I will have an issue after riding the bike for about 2 hours if I'm doing a mountain ride. Where it will not let me rev past 6-7kRPM. It just chokes, like it physically can't go past that RPM. Ive taken it in to see if they can figure it out but when they looked at it they couldn't seem to find or recreate the issue at hand as it wasn't happening often. They mentioned it could be the fuel pump on the way out ( bike has 45,000kms and original fuel pump) Just wondering if you know of anything else it may be??? Or have any suggestions. I love this bike and would really like to get this issue sorted out. The bike shop also mentioned that if it happened again they would put it on the Dyno to test it all. Would that work?? I know fuck all when it comes to the mechanics of the bike and sometimes feel like i get ripped off when i go to my Honda mechanics, they look at it say cant find anything and then charge me an arm and a leg. Cheers in advanced!

[@domenstiftar7]

Did you found out what was the problem having same problem here with my 06

[@JESUS_BRAHHH]

So I know this sounds dumb, I swapped my motor in my bike and it took me a while to get the motor. I set my gas tank outside for a month or 2 cuz I didn't want my house to smell like gas, I swapped it, made sure i dumped the fuel that was in it while it was outside. And the bike will not stay running at all, fuel pump primes. And I've replaced the stator. Rectifier and battery and tons of other stuff and it will just get up to like 110° and then shut off, and then after the first time I'll start it again and it dies even faster, over and over again. Sorry I've searched everywhere for a solution and no one has it. But u seem smart when it comes to these things, so I'm really hoping you respond -thanks in advance

[@j656]

Nice vid man. Nice precautions ⚠.

[@dillonfahl6120]

Hey I know I’m late but I’m having an issue with my bike after an accident there’s now oil in the coolant but no coolant in the oil so I don’t thing it’s the head gasket the bike didn’t get hot after the crash so it couldn’t have warped. I’m thinning it’s the oil cooler seals where it’s going to the radiator but I’m not 100% if that’s how it is ok the 09cbr600rr I know it’s like that on the older models just looking for a little help don’t want to have to tare the whole motor out.

[@Isaa5500]

Can anyone help please I have a fzs1000 and the cold start is terrible my bike stalls 5 times until it runs but runs bad on idle for the first 5 minutes.... the choke doesn’t last long only 40 seconds and the choke plunger works ok. Thanks

[@YourStepDadBob]

Why do you say a power commander is useless and cause problems ? I’ve been completely satisfied with my bikes response and functionality from the commander .

[@homegrownluv8106]

I second that. Not really sure why they trash talk them. If it’s installed professionally and done right it does make a huge difference. I run a power commander on my 07 600rr Repsol and have never ever had any issues with it.

[@chriseller757]

That is not why tanks vent. The only time a bike builds pressure inside the tank is when it’s not running. As the bike uses fuel it creates vacuum on the tank and if there is no vent (usually with a one way check ball) the fuel will hydro lock and stall the bike. And the fact that you think power commanders are a waste and cause problems further proves you have no business working on bikes.

[@kurtgolden7488]

could give video on how set shocks on 1996 honda 900rr

[@MF-ig1tv]

Hi. My cbr600rr 2013 runs on reserve at 240km for the past 5yrs. Now it hit reserve at 200km and it stalled no above than 10km before refueling. There's still approximately 4litres of fuel in the tank and it won't start. I've changed the fuel strainer and cleaned the injectors and it still happens when it get reserve till now. Any advice guys?

[@Hawk7886]

Yeah, keep the tank full of fuel.

[@Shake_77]

Could this be the cuase of my 600rrs bad idle and then stalling after giving fuel?

[@Hawk7886]

Probably not

[@wolverinebear5357]

So there is no fix other than new tank?

[@TheWhisky81]

Hi Codi, thanks for this great video, I've cleaned my breather/ overflow pipe out on my 05 cbr1000rr but still having a vent problem, that hole inside the tank is separated from the pressure or vacuum once the cap is shut, the seal won't let pressure past to escape down and out through that hole, do you think I have a faulty cap that's not letting pressure through to escape, thanks john.

[@josephbriggs_859]

Why don't u like power commanders?

[@TheMotorcycleMD]

I have removed three times as many than I have installed. If there is ever an FI light or fuel related issue that either throws a code on the CBR's two things I check.... Does it have a power commander, how is the fuel pump. They are not the worst thing ever. Just can be problematic.

[@technician006]

I had a PC III on mine and took it off because it was sluggish around 60 miles per hour. It is much more torquey without it at that speed. I think PC's are more marketing hype than anything.

[@mister_man23]

Why you say that about having problems later w a power commander

[@andrewdavis7053]

is the passage/pipe that runs through the tank a "straight shot" through? If so could you slide a sleeve/ pipe of a smaller diameter down through the existing one one? likely a stupid idea but there it is. thoughts anyone?

[@Hawk7886]

Doesn't sound like a great idea.

[@digger8180]

Great advice thanks.

[@Mishaelrejon]

What years are you looking at?

[@TheMotorcycleMD]

This issue can stretch all the way back into the F2 F4i days. The difference is not the space under the tank is not there. The older bikes had lots of room for hoses to not kink.

[@vernondemaree7289]

Hey , those 1981 hondamatic cm400a, are they good bikes??????

[@maxjoey197]

Thanks

[@saifsaidi8007]

i live in the middle east it barely rains like 3-4 times a year so i guess im good xD

[@deneshsingh6264]

Ooo

[@vernondemaree7289]

Hi , what would be high mileage for a motorcycle??????

[@TheMotorcycleMD]

Depending on the make and model! I have seen VT750s well over 100k with solid maintenance intervals. I have seen 300k on Goldwings that are well maintained. Older 70s bikes I think 20-40k is suspect. 60k is up there on most bikes. Lots of room for error from owners. It is rare to see sportbikes up that high, most of them get wrecked, stolen, dumped, repo'd.

[@vernondemaree7289]

@@TheMotorcycleMD ok brother, thanks for the info!!!!! You have a good thing going on . god bless!!!!!!

[@danejurus69]

Mileage isn't as big of a deal as long as the bike was taken care of.

[@Hawk7886]

No such thing as objectively high mileage. I've seen bikes with 2,000 miles on the odometer but it was nothing but track time and they were beat to hell. You could have Goldwings with literally hundreds of thousands of miles and they look pristine. You need to look at each machine separately and KNOW what you're looking at. Don't listen to dumbass "mechanics" that try to say otherwise.

[@barnycanuck6234]

Good tip.

[@markmarquez7348]

07cbr1000rr can the gas tank vent cause your bike to sputter when fully warmed up

[@williamroy91]

I have oil and water mixing in my oil

[@Hawk7886]

rip, sorry about your engine

[@davec6244]

Cody, don't stretch your ears out anymore. At some point you'll be over that look and your earlobes will be droopy. Or do they snap back to their OG shape? I'm not sure.

[@TheShubbah]

nope they don't go back, you have to have a procedure where they effectively get a blade and slice all the way around on the inner ring, then stitch it together, and for those people with MASSIVE ones, it's the same, but they also have to chop off the bottom half of the hole and then stitch it together. Honestly never understood why anyone even likes/wants this look. But hey, everyone has their own tastes.

[@andrewvega2127]

I have a 1992 cbr 600f and can’t get it to crank when i jump the starter direct it cranks ??

[@danejurus69]

Ever solve this issue?

[@rochakpaudyal]

I think the best way to do that would be keep putting motor oil every month? I guess

[@my_graphics]

Brawn Strowmen

[@Desertduleler_88]

I avoid riding in the rain.

[@Hawk7886]

I don't melt, water doesn't scare me. Sorry to hear you're made of sugar.

[@Desertduleler_88]

@@Hawk7886 Your choice idiot.

[@deneshsingh6264]

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