Inside Amazon's electric delivery trucks

Amazon rolled out the first of its planned fleet of long-haul electric trucks in Los Angeles this week, but the company already has a large amount of electronic vehicles rolling through much of the country, delivering hundreds of millions of packages.
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[@davidpak271]

This guy must be really excited about their partnership with Rivian

[@lalutte65]

As he is frantically looking for another reliable van source

[@youtewbJC]

Much excite!

[@IsaacHozz]

@@youtewbJC Very much!

[@skf6199]

He was well coached by the PR team.

[@blessguy5330]

@@lalutte65 EVs have proven to be far more reliable buddy they will have some kinks as It’s a new concept for the US just like when the first gas van came out. 😀

[@anthonyhalkyer2036]

Let’s be perfectly clear. Amazon didn’t move to electric delivery vans to be green and for the PR. They did it because it’s significantly cheaper to run, charge, and repair, compared to the old ICE delivery vans increasing their efficiency and profit margins.

[@nicoresnik2943]

This is the part that really has conservatives funded by fossil fuels quivering, our stuff is better then their stuff, and our stuff is only going to be getting a lot better rapidly

[@EduardoSanchez-un2hh]

That profit is gonna go through the drain once the vans start catching fire or electricity gets more expensive than gas.

[@brittgayle467]

@@EduardoSanchez-un2hhICE vehicles catch fire more often and if they invest in solar they can reduce their electricity costs.

[@anthonyhalkyer2036]

Sure, keep telling yourself that. The people at Amazon must be a bunch of dummies pumping gas.

[@Cttechexpress]

@@EduardoSanchez-un2hh Not going to happen. Fuel cost is current about 20-25% in an EV so even if electricity prices tripled, it would still be cheaper. Also EVs are WAY less likely to catch fire - as much as 30-50x less likely. LFP batteries like the Rivian vans use are even less prone to thermal runaway and fire than that. Your comment has zero basis in any sort of fact.

[@ZakiSalem-zh5gr]

Amazon saved Rivian from banckruptcy

[@markmonroe7330]

They haven't been saved yet. Gone from 130 to under 10 in just over 2 years and they lose a crap ton on every vehicle. It is very likely they wont be around here soon.

[@wantsanewvehicle]

@@markmonroe7330 Rivian ain't going away any time soon, believe me.

[@Rx100Vx]

Well they own 16% of Rivian so its a win win

[@Neojhun]

@@markmonroe7330 What a bunch of nonsense. Rivian operations are doing very well. It's just silly myopic public perception which has effected the stock price. FYI Stock price has very little reflect on how well the company is operating these days. It's just a way to bet on the future of the company. There are alot of bad bets and scammers in the stock market.

[@jackfieldsjack1061]

Ev is the future..

[@roywang7605]

Eliminating the engine idling emission while kids are playing near the delivery trucks is nice, but don't forget the battery mining and recycling impact to the environment. It's a double edge sword.

[@DreDresChapters]

If you don’t know how to calculate emissions costs vs a 8 mpg truck then there’s no point of bringing up anything environmental

[@dc6233]

The impact on the environment by the cobalt and other precious metals mines is far worse than what exhaust fumes due to the planet. It's just another lie like the hole in the ozone or acid rain. They will always find morons that believe them.

[@oldschooldude3500]

Your very right. All the extra mining, engery that's needed to recharge these ev's is worse than they a standard combustion engine. And what happens when the power goes out. Than they bring in the diesel generators to charge them. Look at the big picture.

[@JacktheSmack]

That impact is minimal compared to planet terraforming that is caused by oil.

[@DreDresChapters]

@@oldschooldude3500 you have the most preschool conception about EVs lmao Jesus Christ…

[@iseewood]

See them all over my city. Thank god! No more loud, polluting delivery vans running through my neighborhood on a daily basis. For everyone complaining about where the electricity comes from, where I live, the majority is from renewables and growing. No to mention, just think about all the energy waste just to make gasoline. Pumping it, piping it, refining it, shipping it… Did you all think gas just magically appears in a gas pump?

[@blessguy5330]

Even If the electricity Is coming from gas plants It Is far better for the environment for the same reason why people have started running cars off generators Instead of engines.

[@blessguy5330]

60% of california Is renewable energy also which Is where most of the electrification Is happening. I see the FedEx brightdrop electric vans all over and rivan amazon.

[@1940limited]

I haven't seen one yet. I actually thought Amazon killed their order for them.

[@wxdeen]

You realize the effort it takes to mine and manufacture the batteries and materials for electric vehicles is worse than refining crude oil right? But it’s ok bc we’re not doing in the states right? We’re just polluting third world countries instead

[@iseewood]

@@wxdeenYou’re joking, right? Let’s say a car gets 25 mpg and drives 12,000 miles/yr. And that person drives that car for 10 years. That car consumes 4,800 gallons. You telling me it takes less energy to extract, refine and transport 4,800 gallons of gasoline than make one car battery? Oh heck no.

[@jeffs6090]

Electric is 100% ideal for delivery and around the city commercial vehicles.

[@mikldude9376]

They look good on paper to the general public , and jeff Bezos probably has a couple of billion petty cash in his wallet and it won't be a big deal if they fail , and they could fail , EVs run on batteries which are a very expensive consumable because they degrade the longer you use them . And in heavy trucks , you are at a disadvantage from the very beginning because EVs are very heavy , and range is limited for long distance heavy duty trucking. Perhaps for short shuttles they may work . Another point to be made is we don't know what sort of incentives or what sort of deal Bezos got for his Rivian fleet , EVs are expensive as a general rule , and apparently Rivian is losing money , so let's not just assume EV trucks and commercials are a viable option just yet. I was in the motor trade and in the trucking industry, I wouldn't buy an EV truck .

[@HygienistDentist]

It’s so nice that my local Amazon delivery is electric. So quiet from inside my house.

[@Tokamak3.1415]

@@mikldude9376 But most of the long haul freight in the US is done by train - both cheaper and usually faster unless running a point to point express. That's why passenger trains may suck in the US but US rail freight is better than any other country. Taking all those container units from port of LB/LA/San Pedro and running them to local rail exchanges is the perfect use for the electric class 8 semis. Cheaper and a lot less down time than combustion. Batteries do degrade, but combustion engines lose compression. I don't know of any drivetrain that doesn't degrade by the forces of entropy.

[@1940limited]

@@HygienistDentist Hopefully it will get there.

[@grahammonk8013]

@@mikldude9376The batteries are NOT consumable. Yes, they lose storage capacity over time, typically less than 20% loss over 200,000 miles. Once they lose enough to make them impractical for their intended purpose, they can be reused for lesser functions (home storage) or they can be recycled for the elements and made into new batteries.

[@mikeshafer]

I see the Rivian EDVs everywhere... here in Las Vegas, back in the Villages FL, in LA. They are awesome. Such nice vehicles. If they made a 300mi version of this for the general public these would be great Vanlife vehicles.

[@HygienistDentist]

I’m in Vegas too! They’re amazing. So quiet so clean

[@TheJeffHolt]

You don't need 300 miles, you need chargers everywhere like gas stations. I know. I own EV's.

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

Rivian makes a fantastic product and their recent reveal of the R2 and R3 platforms generated a lot of buzz, so I think they will continue to exist for some time. Worse case scenario I could see Amazon buying Rivian.

[@mrheng562]

That’s what I think too.

[@markmonroe7330]

Maybe if "some time' is late 2024 or 2025. Their stock has gone from 130 to under 10 in just over 2 years. They lose thousands on every vehicle sold with things only getting worse month by month. If they lose their subsidies, which is highly likely after the election in November, their demise will soon follow.

[@cameronf3343]

@@markmonroe7330It’s not exactly “highly likely” that they’ll lose their subsidies next year.

[@happymantis]

@@markmonroe7330 Amazon is committed to buying 100,000 vans from them - that is a hell of a lifeline to offset a decline in the consumer market. Rivian could easily just be a standalone business servicing all kinds of small businesses that need electric delivery vehicles.

[@Inspire-Ventures]

@@markmonroe7330 The stock price doesn't make or break a company

[@urbanstrencan]

Can't wait to see Rivian delivery vans in Europe

[@shortround889]

I love seeing these electric vehicles around! It will be interesting to see the long-term effects on the power grid. I am glad they are trying to lower there impact in the environment ❤️

[@johnmuthan286]

By producing more electricity with fossil fuels 😂

[@PaulMcB873]

​@@johnmuthan28620% of electricity is renewable and growing. I hear your fears. They are nothing new. Many were afraid when electrcity was introduced into homes during the 1900's.

[@davidmenasco5743]

​@@johnmuthan286Actually, California gets most of their electricity from renewables now. And it's only increasing. Adoption of renewables is growing very rapidly, because fossil fuels are much more expensive now. By adding lots of solar generation over the last several years, California has ended the rolling blackouts they used to experience frequently when they relied on fossil fuels. The California auto market is now 25% full EV, and no more rolling blackouts.

[@user-fm6ns5nb4j]

@@johnmuthan286 They're charging them overnight when there's surplus power in the Grid(s) - that's why overnight power is cheaper. And as Mr Menasco says, green energy is becoming more prevalent. Although I'm surprised they didn't build solar panels over the charging bays that could feed energy back into the Grid during the day.

[@nicolasdujarrier]

The Rivian electric vans used by Amazon seems to be really awesome, and I hope they keep improving on it. I think it would useful to go even further by also implementing by default Vehicule-to-Grid (V2G) and Vehicule-to-Building (V2B) that when the vans are plugged, they could be used as a battery storage to help the grid. Each van should also have at least one Vehicule-to-Load (V2L) 110V (220V in Europe) outlet, that could come handy as back-up or emergency cases. Also, with new improvements to lightweight solar panels, integration of rooftop solar panels on the vans should be explored.

[@mayspondmogul]

Meanwhile my mailman still drives an old gas truck from the 70s🤷

[@BradThePitts]

Some would argue that it's better to use a 50-year-old truck that runs on gas than to manufacture a brand new one that runs on electricity.

[@HygienistDentist]

It’s politics. Got very spicy during the last presidential term 😪

[@naveennandigum8630]

Not exactly politics. More like corruption, Dejoy driving a stake through USPS and Biden keeping the USPS board that elected Dejoy. ​@@HygienistDentist

[@wandilendimande7636]

Did he say "ENGINE'S ON"😂😂😂😂

[@PaulMcB873]

20% of energy is from renewable sources, and it will only grow as we move into the future. People once used oil lamps but look at us now.

[@beyondfossil]

That is true globally for the grid on average. But interestingly, it also depends on time of day. In mid-day, states with a lot of solar get up to 80% to 100% grid powered by renewables especially solar. In Canada, their grid is 80% powered by non-fossil fuels thanks to their abundance of hydroelectric and nuclear power. Moreover, EVs provide incentive to decarbonize and upgrade the grid the world over. Whereas ICE vehicles provide no such incentive not now nor ever in the past. Continued use of ICE just keeps the world dependent on the likes of oil dictators like Putin and under the heel of organizations like OPEC+.

[@hewhohasnoidentity4377]

Shark fat was the primary fuel source before petroleum.

[@johnmuthan286]

Each renewable production solution has to be paired with a coal/Gaz/or other solution, as such renewable solutions are not programmable, nor does the grid has storing capacity, so for exemple when you say you use wind or solar production, that implies that around 50/60% of the time you are actually getting coal/gaz energy (lack of wind, too much wind...)

[@blessguy5330]

60% of all electricity In California Is from renewable sources!

[@beyondfossil]

@@hewhohasnoidentity4377 I have not heard of shark fat being used as a fuel at any industrial scale. As far as I know, whales provide more oil since they are larger. Sperm whales provided special oil from their head cavities that was higher quality than regular oil from blubber. Even then they realized how limited a resource all that was. Unfortunately, our predecessors switched to non-renewable fossil fuels.

[@LesterSuggs]

What must people didn't get from this report is that Amazon is going to buy another 85,000 vans from Rivian.

[@1940limited]

Too bad.

[@pharoah1200]

And then they will own Rivian.

[@mirzaahmed6589]

​@@pharoah1200 they already do. What rock do you live under?

[@bellevue260]

Part of the problem is that we are an instant gratification society. How many of the items from Amazon do we really need in two days or same day? I've seen two different Amazon deliveries at the same address at 5:30am. These were private carriers in personal vehicles. Regardless of the delivery vehicle being electric or not, there is still a carbon footprint and how much we use the service is a large factor.

[@jd5997]

Some of the multiple deliveries to one address is different item types come from different warehouses, and not every one has every thing. So it can literally be cheap to have someone stop twice than more it from one warehouse to another then pack together.

[@naveennandigum8630]

100% you can't just fix the amount of carbon we've emitted by removing one tiny part of the equation. We need degrowth, we need a plant based society(largest cause for deforestation, and big methane emissions), a massive climate corps, cutting military budgets, public transport, walking, biking, less flying or better yet no flying.

[@mirzaahmed6589]

Yeah, I need it in two days. Get over yourself.

[@ntsecrets]

Why can’t the us post office do this?

[@Carl_in_AZ]

In some areas they are. One slowdown for conversion is many of their buildings only have 800 amp services so they need to upgrade their incoming electrical service to support added chargers. Give them the time. They will work with utilities and convert over time as they see Walmart, Kroger, UPS, FedEx, and Amazon lower their delivery cost by going electric.

[@dawn1berlitz]

post office isnt using rivian they are using someone else but there has been some roadblocks along the way like those who are pro ice vehicles....alot dont realize alot of the fleet is outdated ICE vehicles that are fire hazards as the version based on a modified s10 chasis has a known defect.....while i dont know if the ones based on the older modified explorer chassis has the same issues

[@Carl_in_AZ]

@@dawn1berlitzYou are correct they are not Rivans they are Ford EVs.

[@dawn1berlitz]

@@Carl_in_AZ i have yet to see the post office using ford EV's in my area but i cant remmeber the company that won the contract to build the ev mail truck

[@Carl_in_AZ]

@@dawn1berlitzThe first Ford EV transits out of 9000+ total on the contract are in the Atlanta area. I have no idea where the Oshkosk EVs are headed.

[@mounikyerusu5058]

Rivian will see massive growth in the foreseeable future. It is only a matter of time.

[@papa_woody]

Losses 38k per vehicle, sure they will.

[@ocampbell1954]

No they won't. Someone doesn't understand scaling. lol Tesla damn near went bankrupt trying to scale.

[@davidmenasco5743]

​@@papa_woodyIt is misleading to say they lose thousands "per vehicle." These costs are in other areas. As they produce more vehicles, revenue will exceed their costs. It took many years for Amazon to make a profit. They understand how this works.

[@Sirsantos]

they could sell access to their charging network during the day (when the vans are out delivering).

[@Billsoundmaster]

I used to see lots of the electric vans, in the past few months I have not seen any of them.. I have been wondering where they are. Amazon could cover the parking lots where they charge the vans with Pv solar and batteries. Electric seems to be a good fit for last mile delivery.

[@neuzdotcom]

Now let’s do schoolbuses!

[@Carl_in_AZ]

Before I retired from Cummins they were using our EV power trains on BlueBird buses. I think Thompson used their own and another is using Volvo power trains on their school buses.

[@PyroShields]

Once you drive electric you don't go back to gas. Kind of like going from a smartphone to a flip phone.

[@frequentlycynical642]

Did that guy actually say "Engines on?" I rarely have a parcel delivered by USPS. And in terms of the environment, when USPS delivers, it is at a zero cost because the vehicle is coming here anyway.

[@sythex92]

I love how a company switches to electric to eliminate carbon emissions, therefor requiring more battery production, which comes from lithium mines, which is mined by giant machines that produce more carbon emissions in 1 year than the entire lifetime of a gas vehicle.

[@arxligion]

yeah good call cause drones will never work

[@czhusky]

Last mile is done by the postal service. The postal service is renewing their fleet with ICE vehicles.

[@pigletshut]

Orders not by prime members probably all got yeeted to the postal service. They're saving their own EDVs for prime orders.

[@mrcrowleyoz]

Poorly paid drivers. Not even walmart pays that low.

[@mike.v5252]

Facts and Amazon likes to hit you with 300 packages with 200+ stops

[@mike.v5252]

Warehouse associate work for Amazon not drivers

[@mrcrowleyoz]

@@mike.v5252 Their Class A drivers work for the cheap pay

[@handlealreadytaken]

Was surprised that they deliver with these to our sub division which is pretty far out from the major city here.

[@LazarusMMA]

Let's see how this plays out 10 years from now.

[@xchopp]

My 2016 e-Golf is still doing great. Ditto most EVs of that year - and newer models are actually much better (range, charging speed). Most ppl don't seem to be very educated on this topic, but nevertheless have strong opinions, somehow 😮

[@mikeshafer]

Funny at the end how she says she could never see herself going back to "a regular van." In about 10 years, "a regular van" will actually be electric. "Going to gas" would be like trading in your iPhone for a landline rotary phone.

[@tiberianexcalibur]

What are you smoking? You know what she meant.

[@ProfessordevilL]

Don't be pedantic.

[@Tony.in.motion]

We need more cargo bike deliveries in the USA

[@naveennandigum8630]

Whoa someone who follows the science and thinks efficiency matters😎

[@Tony.in.motion]

@@naveennandigum8630 I think we need "all the above" solutions. But after my travels around the world, the way we are building most cities in the USA is not the solution.

[@naveennandigum8630]

@@Tony.in.motion absolutely. Don't even need to have traveled to know this though it helps to know its possible and not some pipedream. I'm in the suburbs of New York and I just recently got a cargo e-bike. Thinking to set up my own little gig jobs doing delivery if I can figure out a few logistics. Using it for commute to work, grocery, errands and for fun also.

[@Tony.in.motion]

@@naveennandigum8630 rock on!

[@myjourney1011]

My company so proud of it😅

[@jake78441]

Yyyeee rivian!

[@xchopp]

They've been delivering in north Jersey for at least a year now. Don't know why they said "you'll start to see them in your area soon..."

[@PyroShields]

Where I live there is a distribution center a few miles from me. Every Amazon truck is gas powered and the gas station across the Amazon is always busy with Amazon trucks.

[@Bystronicman08]

Because there are other locations than just where you are and they don't have them yet. Crazy, huh?

[@PyroShields]

@@Bystronicman08 That's what I just said.

[@evolv.e]

Makes sense!

[@bryanmiller2023]

One problem for Rivian has been the fact that Amazon hasn't bought as many vans as they originally committed to buying which has added to the struggle to survive for Rivian. Originally Amazon was supposed to have exclusive access to purchase the Rivian delivery vehicles and that limitation has since been removed. Probably the fact that the time and effort needed to build out their charging network slowed the process for Amazon.

[@i.k.5822]

electric is the future!

[@justayoutuber1906]

Batteries don't make energy. Without solar panel farms to charge, these vans just make coal plants work harder.

[@frankrifa3010]

We have these in the hood already

[@jonohlinger8898]

It’s funny that he says “Alpha Pad Engines on when there electric vehicles with no engines 😭😭

[@justincrain9772]

I'm an Amazon delivery driver in Lakewood. My question to Amazon is when are they going to start giving their drivers a pay raise!? Give our DSP's more money to give to their driver's so we can live comfortably. Amazon making all this money but don't want to pay their employees more is a shame.

[@newkirk7591]

are they still peeing in bottles in the new ev vans😂😂

[@b21raider27]

Good job Amazon!

[@ZavHustles]

Maybe with the 360 camera censors the drivers won’t crash every other week 🤣🤣

[@anonymoususer7670]

The vans are really nice but the drivers are the worse paid from all the delivery jobs, Amazon keeps employees at a poverty level 🤣

[@superdave380]

They are not kept. They are free to leave and get a better job.

[@naveennandigum8630]

​@@superdave380Amazon is also free to not use our public roads, airports while not paying taxes and yet they do.

[@AustinWyattPetersen]

The post service is the least used of Amazons delivery services

[@trogdorstrngbd]

The more rural the destination, the more the USPS is used for the last mile.

[@Xenon-4300]

Her point was USPS makes the most last mile deliveries Amazon or not, so until they go electric last mile is still a big envrionmental issue.

[@BradThePitts]

This is because it is a violation of federal law to use a USPS postal box for anything except USPS mail.

[@creativemindplay]

Next up: inside Amazon's labor practices

[@1940limited]

I wish them good luck.

[@user-tg9lb4wt9c]

The rivian electric vans need more air conditioner features in the van it only has two vents on the driver side and a cooling seat the vans need s air conditioner in the back of the van and more in front passenger side also even though that Amazon routes are done by a ai system they don't always route the routes in the proper order the routes are always out of order so by the time you get back to the station with the ev van the battery has only like 20 to 30 miles left on it also I believe that the Amazon ev vans charging station should charge the edv vans faster because sometimes the vans aren't always charged fully for the next day

[@jasonmorgan661]

First off those trucks are not Amazon that's a second party contractor or individual owner of the truck subcontracting to Amazon so liabilities never actually fall on Amazon. That's criminal deceptive business practices in many books.

[@MegaKronny]

True

[@SpecialistQKD]

And the "grid" gets most of it's energy from burning coal😂

[@lr9747]

It's a RIVIAN EDV give them the credit they deserve

[@pat-orl]

Weird they mention USPS, but don't mention the new electric USPS trucks

[@trucktruck588]

Where do the rivian drivers go to the bathroom? Most use bottles

[@mixmax61]

But electricity comes is not from renewal sources

[@BringTricks]

So glad I left that company before they did that

[@JTSunriseMusic]

Soylent Green is People

[@davidwilliams9963]

I wonder how much carbon is created by generating the electricity overnight

[@Skankhunt42-xl9fq]

Absolutely no carbon is being generated over night.

[@ytbpre8424]

I would love to buy one for mobile home

[@up-uw4op]

They're making these at the old Pontiac GM factory in Pontiac MI

[@davidwilliams9963]

No, they are made in Normal, IL

[@up-uw4op]

@@davidwilliams9963 they got hundreds in the parking lot at GM Pontiac plant. They paint them and have them hauled out daily

[@mark_5588]

The old truck and bus factory is now a race track called the M1 Concourse

[@up-uw4op]

@@mark_5588 I'm talking about the corner of Montcalm and Joslyn

[@kabooomkal]

Gonna be cold in them in the winter and hot in them in the summer.

[@djchino774]

As if the electricity from the grid wasn't made without carbon

[@josephbennett3482]

One thing that always makes me laugh so much is how Rivian is so successful in their electric vehicles unlike Elon Musks Teslas which has so many problems especially not being able to function in cold weather.

[@annoyedok321]

Amazon Flex drivers are delivering more and more. That's someone who is trying to avoid foreclosue by delivering in their SUV they can't afford at 5 am in the morning.

[@jacobrivera7224]

It won't be long before the human is replaced too

[@alanhowemusic2457]

Good luck Amazon let’s see what happens in three years.

[@AmerBoyo]

Hope they’ve got solar panels on those huge warehouses!!

[@keithb2696]

I wonder what the actual cost of everything is. The trucks, the charging units, the electrical installation, the electrical distribution. The maintenance of the EVSE. Who pays for the infrastructure?

[@happymantis]

In this case, its Amazon paying for its own charging stations at its distribution centers.

[@Carl_in_AZ]

Maybe if we did not subsidize the for-profit oil industry in the US $20 billion a year and use 4.7kWH (37 to 70 cents) of electrical energy to produce one gallon of gasoline which includes the energy used in the extraction, transportation, and refining processes the actual infrastructure one-time cost would pay less than seven years.

[@joepenalvert7776]

I wonder how they are making the electricity to charge them.

[@stickynorth]

Still cleaner even if it was powered by coal, which isn't a thing in most places these days. Even where I live? Alberta we will have killed King Coal as of 2024...

[@stickynorth]

PM 2.5 tailpipe emissions are always easier to clean at its source... The power plant than from millions of micro reactors like cars..

[@beyondfossil]

Its increasingly renewable energy. Depends on location. In aggregate, the US grid mix is already 50% non-fossil fuel. In Canada, its 80% thanks to their abundance of hydroelectric and nuclear power. Depends on time of day. In some states during mid-day, their grid is 80% to 100% powered by non-fossil fuels, usually some combo of solar & wind. Regions like US, Canada and EU already set deadline for 2035 to have a net zero grid. What's more, EVs provide incentive to decarbonize and upgrade grids the world over. OTOH, internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles provide no such incentive -- not now nor ever in the past. Continued use of ICE just keeps the world dependent on the likes of oil dictators such as Putin who use oil as an economic weapon and for international blackmail. Continued use of ICE also keeps us under the heel of organizations like OPEC+.

[@beyondfossil]

@@stickynorth Yes, this is so often overlooked. Gasoline/diesel vehicles emit toxic/cancerous NOₓ, SOₓ, Benzene, PM2.5 (nano-particulates) right in our faces in the neighborhoods where we live, work and play. Urban smog is responsible for sickly yellow-brown haze that covers all of our major urban centers. It causes all sorts of economic losses from health problem ranging from minor coughing & tiredness to cancer and brain diseases. Furthermore, gasoline engines require benzene (a well-known carcinogen) to be added to prevent pre-mature fuel detonation that causes damaging "engine knock". It used to be a lead-based compound that was added and the petro- and auto-industries lobbied hard to say that lead has no health effects!

[@chriswilliams8607]

Obviously out of as much renewables than possible, growing percentage by the day. Even if you charge an EV with 100% coal power, it is much cleaner than a normal gas powered vehicle, as it is explained in every EV introduction and easy to verify.

[@joecable39nc]

so lets say a huge tornado wipes out the power that supplies this wearhouse with chargers the pwr company says with all the damage it will take 4 to 6 days to restore then what happens ?

[@xchopp]

So let's say a huge tornado wipes out the power to the gas stations. Remember Sandy? Looong lines for gas for a week or more. If you lived through Sandy, that is.

[@savethetreez8060]

​@@xchopppumps don't need electric power plug in

[@superdave380]

@@savethetreez8060 What do you suppose powers the gas pumps at a gas station?

[@IronFlowerZ]

Is Amazon aware of how many trees they destroy for cardboard boxes or where the plastic goes after discarded?

[@user-ht1gw9tr5w]

I love Amazon

[@skyqq1827]

good

[@papi1700]

Great job Amazon!

[@larrytu9229]

We will probably see Rivian being bought out by Amazon in the near future.

[@trailerhaul8200]

Isn't Amazon a major shareholder of Rivian?

[@jackfieldsjack1061]

Ev is the Future for trucks and cars.

[@richardhardin9184]

I purchased a Tesla Model 3 and I will never go back to an ICE vehicle. I also have an Ego lawnmower and in 30 days we will have solar panels installed.

[@chadcameron4080]

​@@richardhardin9184You're my hero.

[@DJTFan2024]

Nope, it’s a scam within a scam.

[@Chad_Max]

Not until ownership costs come down significantly. Things like insurance and depreciation hammer away at any perceived gas savings….

[@Chad_Max]

@@richardhardin9184 That model 3 is gonna take a depreciation hit like you won’t believe…

[@cesarc6044]

mmmm more copper wire for me hehehehehhehe

[@europana7]

“We’re excited about our partnership” … spoken like a corporate robot. … hopefully there are no longer term electricity blackouts …

[@Hybridog]

Longer term blackouts?

[@xchopp]

Well if there are, the upside is you won't be able to post to yt 😂

[@IbnBahtuta]

I can't remember the last time Amazon used their own transport to deliver goods to us. We get dodgy blokes in a private cars, but hey, we must special here in London, right Amazon. Now we prefer to shop online with major companies that use their own transport systems instead of dodgy blokes in private cars. And no, I won't pay £8 a month for Amazon to remove ads that were never there before in Prime Video (Prime?), so we use Netflix instead. Overall, we are using Amazon less and less and actually don't mind paying for our goods to be delivered safely and securely by actual employees of the company and not some dodgy bloke in a private car. Did I mention dodgy blokes in private cars?

[@mudurmudur3819]

Evs good for commercial in city like ride share

[@smorris281]

Why do they have to make all electric automobiles ugly?

[@johnmor3541]

Lol these look much better and modern than the Ram vans they had

[@newyork8415]

To save even more energy stop ordering all those unnecessary stuff.

[@pharoah1200]

Could you please tell my wife that?

[@stevegroves4764]

What is Amazons plan to recycle all those batteries?

[@vineetsf7]

3:52 YES or NO 😳 come on CBS. Let’s remind ourselves this is an informative session not a court hearing!

[@rohanm54]

Rivian isn’t going anywhere. At all. People base Rivian’s success solely on just their passenger vehicles when in reality it’s the commercial side of the business that has the entire company on it back. Y’all think rivian is just selling those vans to Amazon? Check the news, At&T and many others have pilot programs with the same vans. Canadian mails truck, USPS trucks. Rivian saved itself by putting these vans into production. They just recently got under a billion dollar package from the state of IL to keep production healthy. Rivian 🚀 🚀🚀

[@jaborisBell]

I can't wait to we go fully electric

[@Anomize23]

Gonna be a long wait because they cant even get our roads up to par quickly as it is😂

[@Neojhun]

@@Anomize23 WTF that make no sense, that has no relevance to BEVs. Heck 4x4 BEVs exist and they don't even require paved roads.

[@AlexInternational]

Tesla to buy Rivian and take up amazon contract and maximize production

[@DreDresChapters]

Environmental wise & cost per mile wise this an insane deal knowing nobody is complaining about “charging”.... The average UPS truck gets 5-8mpg average…. A ups driver drives about 100k miles costing insane maintenance& gas prices for a poor fuel economy truck… (for this scenario) let’s judge it by 3 years & 300k miles. With a higher 8mpg you’d average 37,500 gallons (300k miles divided by 8 mpg) because that’s always how you calculate fuel consumption. Each gallon becomes 20 pounds of emissions so that’s 750,000 pounds (or about 340.19 metric tons) of CO2 emissions......... In a sad comparison the battery only takes 3-16 metric tons to produce IF it uses zero recycled material AND stricky comes from (NCM) batteries chemistry unlike (LPH) which uses zero rare earth metals used I’d 37% of EVs today. For the price you Multiply that by the price of gas, let's say $4.20 a gallon in my state (NV) or something like a larger state meaning California which is $5.25, you’d get $157,500-196,875 for the price of gas over the course of 3 Years/300k miles….. I literally wish that price in cost comparison went to the driver but that’s not how the game works. 2 strong reasons why we study fossil fuels & clean energy footprints in the U.S. 🇺🇸 California my old home actually just hit the cleanest grid energy of 33 days of PURE CLEAN ENERGY early 2024… Clean energy is peaking 🌱

[@nueat6]

so glad it ain't tesla!

[@ChiRusNkFUSA]

Let’s go EV!

[@user-yc2oz8kc5k]

Though we are not ready for everybody to have an EV yet, I do think for local delivery they are the appropriate vehicle.

[@Neojhun]

That's a silly comment. It's not possible for for everyone to have EV yet. Mainly because there is Manufacturing limit on how many vehicles can be built. The current manufacturing supply is enough for everyone who could use one effectively.

[@kabooomkal]

Gonna be cold in them in the winter and hot in them in the summer. Never used that jungle company. Can’t believe people can’t just go to the store.

[@isaac198428]

This is one of the most useful ways to implement ev technology in automobiles, fleet vehicles *on a fixed local route. Charging, maintenance etc is someone else’s responsibility instead of the drivers* The driver literally doesn’t waste any time at all.

[@omegaplumbing]

The scam is almost over..😂

[@companymen42]

Let’s be clear here, Amazon didn’t switch to EVs because of the environment. They switched because it’s significantly cheaper to operate and repair compared to ICE vehicles. This is also the reason why I switched to an EV, not because of the environment, because I hate the environment.

[@lurkingarachnid7475]

Funny how many companies cancelled their EV deliveries as they're a pain in the neck to use.

[@PyroShields]

Where is your source. Sounds made up.

[@jolyonwelsh9834]

How many terawatt hours do they consume each year? We need electricite de France. Vive la France!

[@WildWildWeasel]

I've seen so many of those broken down on the side of the road lol

[@DanL57]

Your psychosis was making you hallucinate.

[@davidmenasco5743]

I see several every day. In fact I see about a hundred EVs every day. In ten years, I've seen maybe two or three broke down. Ask how many ICE . . .

[@WildWildWeasel]

@@davidmenasco5743 where I work at I always see them on flatbeds being towed out, especially Rivian, the occasional Karma/Fisker Ocean and the Ford Lighting. A lot of model S, though I presume it's the older gen. Only electric cars I've never ever seen broken down are the Leaves or the Chevy Bolt EVs, and there's at least 3 Bolt EVs roaming around every day where I live too. I've also seen the (older) Ioniq on fire, at the parking lot of my workplace.

[@jmdsservantofgod8405]

Their trucks make my dog go crazy!

[@aliancemd]

What does this “specific” truck have to do with it. Dogs go crazy on anything with wheels basically

[@Anomize23]

Noticed the same too. Its some particular noise it makes that we cant hear sometimes now that it’s quietly electric.😂

[@Daahj]

I worked at this warehouse lol these trucks break in like 500 miles. This is hilariously horseshit

[@PyroShields]

Sure you work there. Try to come up with a better story.