CBTC Coming To Broadway? | MTA Adding CBTC To More Lines

[@Reaper0305]

It’s about time it’s long overdue

[@robertko5425]

True - However, this one size fits CBTC approach all needs to be better studied, since the entire CBTC system at PATH was CRIPPLED very recently by some hackers !!!

[@tombarzey7964]

I hope the IRT division 1- 6 lines get it rei soon because the delays on these lines are horrible.

[@tweetingsparks]

Personally the delays on the B division is unacceptable.

[@sunnyh-k8d]

R262 will be equipped with CBTC . are meant for the Lexington Avenue Line. for the 4 , 5 , 6 line, By R262 are delievered. Lexington Avenue will be CBTC equipped

[@KO-xe8vj]

You dragged it , on a good day IRT trains arrive in frequency of 2-3 minutes with out CBTC. Lexington and 7th Ave have one of the best headways. Delays are normal and are bound to happen.

[@tombarzey7964]

@@KO-xe8vj a good day can be on off peak hours in the week or on weekends and when there's no construction. 2 to 3 minutes are good if you don't have delays with merges like the 2 and 5 lines at Jackson Ave and the 4 and 5 lines at 138 St/GC all the time especially during am rush hours.

[@wales_kennedy2006]

I'm just praying for CBTC on Lexington Avenue. The delays are becoming a headache and the overcrowding isn't pleasant. I understand the changes to the BMT and IND lines but the IRT needs more than just station renovations and elevator accessibility

[@Jorge-lh6px]

The CBTC programs should’ve prioritised the IRT lines first. It’s ridiculous that these unused lines get these programs over the most used ones in the system.

[@JessieCandelario]

@@Jorge-lh6px That’s what I’m saying wasn’t the IRT Lexington Avenue line the crowded most used line?

[@Jorge-lh6px]

@@JessieCandelario It’s one of the most used lines in the world, not just in our system. Yet, that’ll be the last service that gets CBTC. It’s a joke that MTA leadership keeps prioritizing these other services.

[@JessieCandelario]

@@Jorge-lh6px Wow MTA is a joke smh

[@JessieCandelario]

@@Jorge-lh6px wow MTA is a joke. I would say behind the Lexington Avenue line is the seventh Avenue line that should be CBTC so crowded especially on 42nd! Going ether direction during rush hour.

[@ishrakkhan5541]

3:14 vandalized R160 (especially my Siemens 😭)

[@mood4eva98]

Another video we’re sooo back!

[@EPMTUNES]

great coverage! I'm glad this is happening. It feels like a new era of the MTA is Upon us.

[@dennisthebrony2022]

I REALLY HOPE CBTC comes to the Broadway, since they STILL use the old R46, and R68 trains on the N Q and W lines. Those trains are old, as well as the signaling technology, not gonna lie. They used to use R160 trains on the N Q and W lines, but unfortunately swapped the 46s from the R line, since they are using the 160s for CBTC testing I think on QBL. But I REALLY DO HOPE that NTT trains come back onto the N Q and W, so we can get to hear those cool automated announcements again. I'm from LA and not NYC, but I've been to NYC once in 2015, and got interested into their subway system ever since.

[@ishrakkhan5541]

The R160s are permanently staying in Jamaica Yard for QBL CBTC. It is expected though that the R46s from the N, Q, and W will be replaced by the displaced R68s from Concourse, as the D will be getting R211s. Additionally, some R68/As might be displaced from Coney Island Yard as well. So you might be able to expect some new techs on the Broadway line in the near future!

[@R323838]

@@ishrakkhan5541 there are 200 R160s currently OOS due to CBTC and other related issues. And Queens Blvd isn't 100% R160s anymore, It's 98% R160s since the other 2% are R179s one on the M and One long the F that can also run on the E and R lines.

[@karatekidfahim5]

@@R323838 i caught both r179s at 47-50th last Thursday, took some time but man those seats are nicely heated.

[@ishrakkhan5541]

@@R323838 that’s for now though. Keep in mind Jamaica has a surplus of CBTC equipped R160 cars. They have the most cats assigned out of the entire system. The R179s are currently running on QBL to ONLY do CBTC testing so that the MTA can see how well they perform on 8th ave and Fulton St line CBTC. And also, the M’s R179 is not based out of Jamaica Yard, but rather ENY just like the R160s. So that might mean if anything, the M’s R179s might be permanent

[@ManuelAndres68]

The Broadway lines excluding the Yellow R line is most likely last for CBTC

[@rikamayama2909]

I hope Lex gets it soon as it's the most popular line, and albeit one of my favorites.

[@R262SubwayCar1]

This is Awesome

[@QQWERTY7050]

We are very familiar with delays caused by the Signaling system that is over 100 years old

[@VinceHere98]

With Broadway (mostly the Astoria line) expected to get CBTC, this is what I envision the rolling stock assignments will be: A/C: R179’s (10-car sets) and R211’s B: R211’s only D: Same as the A/C E/F: R160’s only (both 10-car Alstom and Siemens sets) G: Same as the B J/Z: R160’s (8-car Alstom sets) and R179’s (with some occasional R143’s during rush hours) L: R143’s and R160’s (8-car Alstom sets) M: Same as the J/Z (will use R143’s during weekends and late nights) N/W: R211’s only Q: R68/A’s only (re-routed N trains to 96th Street may share R68’s with the Q) R: R160’s (10-car Alstom sets) only (may share both R160’s and R211’s with W trains extended to Bay Ridge-95th Street during rush hours) Franklin Avenue Shuttle: R68’s only Rockaway Park Shuttle: R179’s (10-car sets) only

[@RocketTrain-0]

The R doesn’t share sets with the W because they are based out of different yards. The R is based out of Jamaica and the W is based out of Coney Island. The R will only have R160s and the W will have the R211s

[@Bentheminor1847]

Never cook again bro

[@Richard-l5q]

​@@RocketTrain-0 Coney Island Yard isn't getting R211. They will be getting R268

[@dinonator89]

Also, if the broadway lines are going to get CBTC, the Q needs to have all NTTs as well. I believe that either some 160s from Jamaica will move to Coney Island or new 211s will arrive there, where the B will get all NTTs and some will go to the N/W and Q trains. When Broadway CBTC is going to begin, it will definitely start on the Astoria line because QBL got CBTC before 8th/6th ave so maybe in the future the N/W lines will be full of NTTs again and the Q trains will stick to all 68s until the R268 comes in like 10-15 years.

[@Bentheminor1847]

@dinonator89 6th Av CBTC is getting priotized under the 2020-2024 captial program right now once funding happens work can begin on 6th Av. Broadway not gonna happen not at least for half a decade

[@FordmustangGT-vg4uy]

For anyone not from nyc, mta in 2024 signals still mostly use a ancient system to ensure trains are even spaced apart. And what do they use to stop trains from being any type of efficient? Pneumatic trip arms effectively eliminating Any time cutting as if the mta knew what on time means lol

[@ElJibaro718]

They're modernizing the system bud, so there's that.

[@the0ne809]

@@ElJibaro718 people forget that the NYC subway system was underfunded for decades until the late 90s. Countries like France and Spain have lower cost because they have a continuous sources of funding from their central govt (something the US is allergic to), therefore it makes everything cheaper and faster .It creates expertise.

[@de-fault_de-fault]

@@the0ne809creates expertise and also maintains supply chains for both planning and production/installation, vs. the constant stop-start of projects in the US. Just like everything else in our political system, our obsession with “saving money” by not funding things properly puts us into the position where we constantly have to pay more and get less than governments in other countries.

[@the0ne809]

@@de-fault_de-fault that's how you end up spending 2 billion for a mile, You have to restart the process all over again and you have to hire experts and consultants from other countries, etc. People lose their minds when Amtrak is not profitable, but they never had the money to invest to upgrade and create high speed lines. The issue now is that private companies are picking up the most profitable routes (LA to Las Vegas) to make money instead of Amtrak building those lines to fund others less profitable routes. People ignore the fact that the govt loses money maintaining roads and small airports.

[@TheLiamster]

It should be on every line with the eventual goal of complete automation with driverless trains

[@ogtripplog215iiiifffff]

We have this on our Market-Frankford El [SEPTA] line here in Philly

[@samuelitooooo]

I really don't understand their selections. The J and M between Essex St and Myrtle Av-Bway would've made sense because that's where the maximum throughput is, but instead they chose a section where no other trains interline along with the J. On one hand, the Rockaways should be very low on priority because MTA refuses to run more trains, but on the other hand that's a lot of mileage where they'll save on maintenance. Hopefully the 5-month closure of the Rockaway lines comes with new bridges that don't open for boats, eliminating delays as well as allowing 50 MPH speeds for far longer. The Broadway line flabbergasts me. They won't have enough R211s to retire all R68s - at which point, why retire R68s at all? They may be old trains, but they'll allow added frequencies across the N, Q, and W lines. And through all of this, Central Park West won't get CBTC even though the A, B, C, and D trains interline here and then again further down south. I'll end by pointing out that the previous capital plan originally had a small section of the Astoria line slated for CBTC, but they changed their minds later on.

[@QQWERTY7050]

Golf was fun yesterday

[@FordmustangGT-vg4uy]

Here on time unlike the mta, i don't think they could afford to do that

[@SubwayyyFan3000]

Thanks god, i miss R160s on the N/Q/W line so much.

[@goatiebaaproductions]

Needed this to happen for Bwy line! 😊

[@romanlazersudios]

Is his voice okay? (He sounds sick)

[@boguette_]

Yeah probably. Health should come first if anything

[@KhondakarSadi]

@@boguette_ wrong MTA comes first

[@56CharlesTadareChannel]

Broadway line should be next to do CBTC

[@Bentheminor1847]

❌️❌️ 6th av cbtc >>>>>>>>>

[@Urban_Man]

What do you think about MTA’s plan to still purchase mostly close ended R211s(and 80 open-gangway) for the optional order, I think it is a little disappointing…

[@tracybrovan3997]

Wow !

[@Foxybravo59]

when is 8th Ave going to start its Cbtc?

[@YummyF0OD]

Lmao why broadway. Though they are fine with their SMEEs. Their signals are newer and can wait for the R268s till 2035

[@EndIessProductions]

CBTC saves time I think, it’s not that the signals are bad

[@tdadp]

I thought it was already CBT at 57th on the NNR track ..

[@lightning77125]

love if it happened on 7th so we could remove those annoying timer signals

[@josephortiz1990]

CBTC Coming To The Broadway Line Already?!:-\

[@robertko5425]

CBTC - Catch Bus To Canarsie - Corona or Continental !!!

[@josephortiz1990]

@robertko5425 I Don't Even Know What That Even Means I'm Sorry About That!:-\

[@darrylreedy5079]

No

[@josephortiz1990]

@@darrylreedy5079No What Do You Mean No?!:-\

[@KhondakarSadi]

@@josephortiz1990 (already) my ninja we've been waiting 30 years for this

[@stephenbauman9746]

CBTC does not increase service level capacity. The MTA's predecessors (TA and BOT) operated 20% more trains per hour on the Flushing and 14th Lines. That's 36 vs. 30 tph on the Flushing Line and 24 vs. 20 tph on the Canarsie Line. The BOT operated 42 tph on the Third Ave El before 1950. There were special situations, where the BRT/BMT operated 66 tph on the Brooklyn Bridge and 52 tph on the Williamsburg. One question the MTA refuses to answer is what CBTC's service level capacity would be and how it compares to what it will replace. Can you answer this question? One big downside to CBTC is that its useful service service life is only 25 years. The Canarsie Line's CBTC installation should be slated for replacement before 2030. Replacement parts are already difficult to find. This is because the electronics is constantly changing.

[@joelxyso]

mystic i thought you weren’t going to post anytime soon? not trying to hate

[@boiii3productions945]

CBTC will have to ensure that all R68s are retired

[@med7870]

Im early :)

[@KennethRembertNYC]

Can you do your next video about they gonna eliminate the struggling Z train and bring back the brown M train, please?

[@darrylreedy5079]

This I agree with. If they got rid of the 9, you might as well get rid of the Z as well

[@KennethRembertNYC]

@darrylreedy5079 Exactly

[@wanderer34]

The Z train was meant to be for the skip stop service between Myrtle Ave and Sutphin Blvd stations. I’m surprised that the MTA doesn’t allow for skip stop service nowadays!

[@KennethRembertNYC]

@@wanderer34 But I hate the Z train, still!