Track Repairs are Made after our 5 Car Derailment

After the rail rolled over and 5 cars derailed, this is a follow up video on
the track repairs that we made to get track back in service.
Gonna have some train action in this video and will tell you about
track gauge control rods.
See first video in this 2 part mini series: Rail Rolled Over and 5 Cars Derailed.... Oh Fudge:
• Rail Rolled Over and 5...
In a prior video I went over why some railroads use concrete ties and some use
wood ties. This derailment is a classic example of why we don't use concrete. Had
we had concrete ties in there they would have all been destroyed. Thus it would
have taken double or triple the amount of time to get the track back in service.
Wood ties were merely scuffed up. Here is a link to watch that video on wood vs concrete ties:
• Why some Railroads use...
Made: May 30 and June 3, 2023
Disclaimer: I am an employee of Iron Senergy at Cumberland
Mine. My job is railroad track maintenance. I am very fortunate to
have this job and everyone at the mine is very fortunate to have
Iron Senergy as it's current owner. Our past owners had every
intention of shutting this mine down, but Iron Senergy took
over and have kept this mine alive.
Please understand: I am NOT in any way an official or unofficial
spokes person for Iron Senergy or Cumberland Mine. Any viewpoints,
opinions or anything that I show in the videos, or write in the video
descriptions or any answer to any comment, should NEVER be
misconstrued or interpreted as being in any way shape or form,
any kind of official or unofficial statement from Iron Senergy,
Iron Cumberland, Cumberland Mine, any of the mine's management,
any of the contractors that may be shown in any video, nor of
any of my fellow co-workers.
Any viewpoints or opinions I may make in the videos, in the
descriptions, or in any answer to a comment is strictly that of my
own and NOT an official or unofficial statement or viewpoint that
Iron Synergy or any one at Iron Senergy or Cumberland Mine
necessarily has or makes.
Again, we are very fortunate to have Iron Senergy as our current
owners. Please, when making a comment be respectful of Iron Senergy,
Cumberland Mine, my fellow coworkers and also any contractors
that may be shown. Thank You, Dave
#Derailment#TrackRepairs#RailRolledOver

[@royreynolds108]

The main difference between switch-point bars and regular joint bars beside the length and number of holes is the switch-point bars have a slight bend between the 2 middle holes equal to the angle of the switch point. This allows the points to swing without being tight. The switches on this railroad have a heel block to hold the heel of the switch and the closure rail at a fixed distance from the stock rail and attached to it for extra strength. Track with gage-rods with 2 jaws for each rail will tend to not have the rail roll over as the rail is held very securely by the base. The best gauge rods are ties because then the rails are supported and held to gauge. The least expensive rods have one jaw and a hook on the other end.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Roy for adding that. Excellent information to add in to this video. Also to note, the nuts on the two hole side are never tightened up to full torque. They are left a hair bit loose to allow switch point to move. If nuts are torqued too tight, then switch point may not move over.

[@royreynolds108]

@@ccrx6700 That is why the bars are bent and usually have a thimble to allow the movement of the switch point without binding it. Insulated joints have insulation thimbles as well as insulation plates or pieces between the bars and the rail. The bolts go through the thimbles. There have been a lot of specialized fittings to use on track as well as specialized tools to get the job done, ie spike mauls, spike pullers, spike lifters, track jacks that will trip, and other specialized tools.

[@poowg2657]

Great info all, thanks!

[@QUIX4U]

The correct name isn't joint bar, but fishplate. Each rail joint needs two fishplates, an inner and an outer. At the heel of a switch blade (the tapered rail) the joint MUST be kept tight - yet loose. That is to allow the blade itself, to slide across a small/minute angle (possibly only 2 - 3 degrees), between the aiming of the switchblade - in total, being set one way or the other. Having a 6 hole plate there, will restrict slightly, the ability of the blade itself, to be moved enough, to get the set of the switch "straight or curved". Oh and yes, if one tightens ALL of the fishbolts (on any fishplate set - at the heel of a switch blade) one can effectively "snap" a switch blade, that cannot move freely from open to closed position & visa versa. Yet a very loose "heel fishplate set", (that allows the blade too much movement), could mean that the blade itself, can "roll" under the weight of a wagon or loco. As an Track Inspection Ganger on the NZR - I know without a doubt, that the useless dog spikes, and the aged / rotten condition of those sleepers, combined to allow the gauge on that curve to be WELL BEYOND the gauge limits for that curve to begin with, which in turn, allowed the rail to roll over as the dog spikes (being lifted up or away from the rail or missing even) were not in fact holding gauge, let alone the rail itself.

[@alaskahermithomesteader9549]

Just found your channel. Used to work section out of Edgemont south Dakota then into the roundhouse as a carded machinist. Worked mostly on SD40-2 GE Locomotives. Also SD-9'S for the high line to homestake mine. Main line trains were coal and hopper trains from Gillette Wyoming. Largest derailment I worked was 114 cars full of coal. Dumped them on my own land. That was back in '78.

[@haroldishoy2113]

Dave Happy! Be like Dave😃

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you so much Harold for the kind words. I do try to maintain a positive attitude even tho sometimes it's not the easiest thing to do. Dwelling on negatives seems to lead to more negative things happening in your life. Thankful for your visiting with us to watch the video my friend.

[@randymusselman4504]

Dave, thank you for sharing, 40 to 50 years ago, I grew up and had a job in a machine shop in Gettysburg, PA….was that the location where Hulcher got started, the original mothership? I recall back then, the dudes that worked for Hulcher were formidable and a very tough bunch, they worked like plow horses until the job was done!. They were and still appear to be the big guns in the rail clean up business…. looks like they have depots all over the country now. Interesting post. Most of the public out there don’t understand the effort needed to keep a rail business going. Everything is 6 x heavy!! Stay safe, brother!

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate your sharing that with us Randy, I'm not sure where Hulcher started, they have a station 30 minutes from us, NS keeps them busy here....LOL Thank you for taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@youknowme8578]

Very informative video David, thanks.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment youknowme and you are welcome. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@strredwolf]

Gotta love 1435 mm (4' 8.5") standard track gauge.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment strredwolf. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@peterfaggella3120]

That coal company is so fortunate to have a guy like you who cares about his job, the train, the industry. I can't imagine how much more down time they'd have if Joe-Schmoe was taking care of the track. I hope they compensate you handsomely.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Peter for the kind and flattering words, I'm blushing. Appreciate your checking out the video and may you have a most blessed day my friend. Also I don't come to work for the money, I'm doing okay in that area, I come because I love railroading.

[@eddiekilby]

Yea they don't make them like Dave any more.

[@QUIX4U]

@@eddiekilby They do, but you will only see those people in privately run, railway enthusiast groups, keeping old rolling stock / track and ancient locomotives alive. The modern track worker is doomed to be a sightseer, inside a computerized machine, that does all the manual work (and the calculations) for them. It's a dying artform, working manually on a railway. And dying is a two edged sword, as most of the blokes I worked with, both young and older, died very shortly after retiring, from the NZR back in the days of long slogging / hard working / manual labour

[@ianhughes7805]

Nice repair Dave agree with you comments on seeing your infrastructure as you can’t inspect track fixings that you can’t see

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Ian, glad to hear you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@Arkay315]

And this is why proper regular maitenence is important for everything.

[@ccrx6700]

Truer words were never spoken Arkay! Very much appreciate your watching tonight and may you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@rearspeaker6364]

years of neglected maintenance are catching up. the last co. did some nasty cost cutting.

[@poowg2657]

I work for one of those cost cutting companies. We have orders to "run to failure". After we run to failure our maintence crews rig it to run some more until it is completely destroyed. We haven't had PM in our paper mill for 15 years. When people ask what I do for a living I tell them my company tries to make state of the art products using the finest in broken down antiques.

[@rustblade5021]

@@rearspeaker6364 that's not what's happening at all, he even explains it in the video

[@AlexanderVadura]

Tja, das Firmenlogo lautet: Wir müssen sparen, egal was es kostet 😢

[@stevenpellegrino997]

That's very interesting to see that all. How it works and how fast the rest got started. Being it was a holiday. Hats off to the men who came with the grappler. And everything to get started. I'd be interested in watching how the ties are replaced. Can you pull them from under the track after cleaning gravel away. Slide a new one in and spike it. Or do you need a grappler or something to lift the rail a bit. ( I noticed you said your waiting on the grappler operator. Before you came change ties out). Has anyone ever thought about a composite tie. That would break down or rot over time. And what about big screws instead of spikes. So they can't pull out as easy. Spikes are as all as the rail road. The design never changed since the first steam engine. I'm surprised they don't use a screw style spike. Or a ring shank style spike. I have watched trains here in Ohio. Moving down the track. You can see 3-5 tie lift and fall as each set of trucks pass that section. I grew up near the Ashtabula harbor rail yard. And great lakes coal and iron ore shipping yards. Great video and explaining how some of this stuff works. And how you guys operate under emergency situations. I'll be looking to see what other videos you have. New to your channel. I see a video a weed ago. About a termite weld on the track. Or something like that. It was very cool to see how that's done. I thought a guy or machine just welded that tracks together. Stay safe👍👊🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Steven for the nice comment. Glad you enjoyed and we appreciate your taking the time to watch. Lag screws are a superior fastening system but all our tie plates are cut for spikes, no round holes in them. Neither do we use composite ties, they are almost triple the cost of a wood tie. Grapple truck pulls old tie out and inserts new tie. May you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@russell3380]

That's Railroading! Good to see things looking like this after all that and some coal being hauled. I smile seeing our grade crossing with standard and narrow gauge rail even though the train doesn't make it that far anymore. Hopefully one day it will, EBTRR .Thank you for sharing the work with us. Stay safe.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Russell. Glad to hear you liked the video. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@michaelpass2176]

Dave can you make camera holder on your work helmet as you work along?

[@ccrx6700]

Good suggestion Michael, I've tried to do that. So far haven't been able to come up with a good solution. Will keep on trying.

[@michaelpass2176]

@@ccrx6700 I made one for my friends truck Mirror in side the cab.. He was able to use , also his wife could use , while driving to Boise, Idaho. 8 hours south from where live. Here in Deary, Id. Never fell out of holder. Made on assembly that you put your car registration In folder clip. Now I’ll think of something for round top. Do you have any flat spot on your helmet?

[@williamralph5442]

All that coal dust must hide problems. Thanks Dave.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment William, you are right, it certainly does, can't see my track . Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@johnwaby4321]

All back up and running in no time at all Dave 👍👍 The wooden sleepers how long have they been down I if ties are coming loose is it time for the sleepers to be replaced 😯😯

[@ccrx6700]

We replaced 17 ties in that short span they were definite in need of replacement John for sure. Glad you could take in this video also.

[@capttom7772]

That's a really fasr "turnaround" from down to back in service.

[@ccrx6700]

You are certainly right in that with the limited amount of people available Captain Tom. The guys who worked on this never stopped thru the night. Always a pleasure to have you visit with us and may you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@chrisstromberg6527]

Another great video Dave. Can you do video on how all of that signal stuff works!?

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Chris. Glad to hear you liked the video. Will put that signal video on the to make list, no idea when I can get to it tho. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@russelltrupia4479]

Wow Dave things are looking much better, were there any cars damaged. I see you are using your battery operated impact do you still like it.Great video👍

[@ccrx6700]

Love that impact Russell, you need one! Was advertised for truck tires. Cars were okay, 1 brake pipe got busted but it's now fixed. Glad you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@russelltrupia4479]

@@ccrx6700 That was a great video Dave

[@ccrx6700]

@@russelltrupia4479 👍😊

[@4everdc302]

🟢🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🟢🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃👷‍♂️⛏️All green and coal movin👍🇨🇦🇺🇲

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Doug. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@scottweisel3640]

That ballast sure gets loaded up. Does it still drain okay?

[@ccrx6700]

No it doesn't Scott, coal plugs up the ballast and water won't drain away....sigh. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@whitefields5595]

Dave, what is the gage (gauge) between the inner faces of the wheel flanges?

[@ccrx6700]

Good question whitefields. Wheel flanges are not straight up and down, they are a bit rounded, as wear on flanges change, obviously the distance changes, but on a new wheel (depending on where on the flange you measure) it's 57 inches. That is flange to flange where the flange meets the side of the rail head.

[@whitefields5595]

Thanks Dave. The wheels are also tapered on the rail contact face such that you have two cones on the axle running along the track. Interesting to note that if the wheel gage is 57 inches that gives 1/4 inch either side for axle float. Another good video would be to get an axle and wheel set and take some close-ups of the flange gaps as it rolls along the track. Take care though, don’t want you getting tangled up .... but hey, that’s railroadin’

[@ccrx6700]

@@whitefields5595 👍😊 I will do vid sometime on that

[@Lando_Cannabissian]

Awesome video Dave! Thank you so much!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Lando for the nice comment, glad you liked tonight's showing. May you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@JasperFromMS]

HULCHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. Never has a truck door spoken more truth. I had thd opportunity to watch them in action a couple of times and they can change the complexion of a train wreck pretty quick.

[@ccrx6700]

You are so right in saying that Jasper, true professionals, we always get great service from them here. They do their very best to please us. Well worth the money they charge.

[@bigjoesburgers]

Hulcher is fast at cleaning up. But they are not cheap. Had them in Canada to clean up our mess.

[@rogermason5833]

Yeah, Hulcher had a base of operations near where I grew up and occasionally they would come right past our house on the way to a job. When I heard the sound of their lowboy trucks coming I would run out to watch them rumble by, some carrying the dozers and others hauling the dozer side booms and counterweights. Always an impressive parade of industrial muscle on the move...

[@raymondsprengelmeyer1278]

I'm glad to see you have gotten your derailment cleared up so quickly, thank you for sharing Dave! The amount of knowledge you need to do your job is amazing, you are a great asset to the company you work for!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Raymond, glad to hear you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@QUIX4U]

@@ccrx6700 Yes & that's barely the half of it isn't it. An understatement if ever there was one, made by @raymondsprengelmeyer1278 !!!! [quote] The amount of knowledge you need to do your job is amazing [unquote] One not only has to learn these simple things, but the more complex tasks of determining the amount of "bend" one must exert on new rail, (with a CROW - a U shaped rail bender, that has a central screw turned by - of all things, a CROWBAR) before laying it down, on curves, and transitions, to get the correct "set" to the rail, to allow the (hopefully new) sleepers and fastenings to hold it in place, without it trying to restraighten itself. That is, after determining whether the rail is an inside curve rail or an outside curve rail, as the head of every rail, has a slight "tilt" and beveled edge, meaning that one can accidentally get it wrong, and have a low rail mounted on the outside of a curve, where the wheels don't run true. In newly laid track, we hear this as a major SQUEAL. It's the sound of the two wheel set, (as every railway axle has both wheels fixed SOLIDLY on the one axle) trying to realign itself, as the low wheel or the higher one, slips slightly along the top of the rail, allowing the wheelset to be TURNED - a turning motion that is only done by a combination of the track gauge, the curve of the rail, and the height of the outer (top) rail, above that of the inner (low) rail. The later, being determined by CANT. Curved gauge is also different to straight track gauge, with tighter curves requiring a wider gauge, to allow the wagon wheel flanges, to "fit" between the curved rails at various gauges.. One must also get one's face (and an eye) down to rail top height, to sight the TOP, (when measuring the "gauge AND CANT of track" about every ten feet) to ensure it doesn't undulate too much, especially where CANT is involved, as cross-cant anywhere, (called a TWIST) can cause enough track surface twist to occur, that a wagon's wheels LIFT above the rail allowing the flange to ride off the rail, also another cause of derailments. And don't get me started on all the trillions of other seemingly innocuous / small tasks, one must remember on a daily, to be a track maintenance person.

[@terrywitt5543]

Hi Dave I used to go to a rail road shop in Cincinnati there shop had several rails running threw there shop they would have spare wheel sets what amazes me you can roll the wheel set one handed as much as they way glad hulcher got you fixed up

[@ccrx6700]

Yes they roll pretty easy, can roll and entire truck set without the car body also with some good muscle behind it, at least on level grade. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@Trains-With-Shane]

Hulcher are masters at their craft. I've seen them clean up some pretty nasty wreck sites pretty quickly and efficiently.

[@ccrx6700]

You are right Shane, they certainly are, they always do a great job for us. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@conductormike3step]

Glad to see all was handled well Dave. Stay safe buddy.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Mike. Glad to hear you liked the video. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@JasperFromMS]

It sounds like the guys underground didn't lose any work.

[@ccrx6700]

No they didn't Jasper, only thing the prep plant had to shut down for a few hours, but underground never stopped. That is a good thing. Thanks so much for checking out the video and may you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@earlschmitt884]

Thanks for ALL the great information. Anyone can be a reporter. But takes skill to be an investigative and indepth reporter. You do a great job at doing both.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Earl, and you are welcome. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@eddiekilby]

That's what I like about this channel you always learn something. 👍👍👍👍

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Eddie, glad to hear you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@joepalooka2145]

Wow, great video. I used to work on a track maintenance crew decades ago as a young guy. I know what goes on behind the scenes and how hard the job can be. It takes a hell of a good crew to do the job of repairing this derailment in such a short time. People have no idea. Very impressive to see this.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Joe, glad to hear you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@ManiacRacing]

Seeing stuff made right after a failure is very satisfying! I remember a few emergency jobs that were super tough, but when they were done and back up & running, it was a great feeling! Getting things back in action quickly and properly is a sign of a skilled crew of people who care. Keep up the awesome work!

[@ccrx6700]

You are certainly right about that Lowell. Things go wrong everywhere, but like you say, when you get them fixed that is a great feeling. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.

[@tzadik36]

Thanks for this informatiVe video: as the old saying goes, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"; in this case several multiples of a thousand dollars worth of cure.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Robin, glad to hear you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@michaelball760]

The government loves gauge rods. We have a section of track that the navy built for us to bring in trident rocket cars for them. Every other crib has a Gauge rod for 3 to 4 rail lengths.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Michael for the cool info and for checking out the video. Those rods are neat can adjust gage and they really do a great job at holding gage. May you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@mr.lynnrosaasen8218]

I love the wat you explain what is going on in the rail road world, it operation every day, thanks Dave!

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you are enjoying the shows Mr. Lynnrosaasen. Thank you so much for the nice comment and for taking the time to watch the track repair video my friend.

[@miken8rbiradio220]

Thank you very much Dave very informative video.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Mike, glad to hear you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@michaelpass2176]

I teneber something of pipe line being dug. Seem more like headache with mud and or rain mix ???

[@ccrx6700]

I did show a video some time ago of another pipe line they put under our tracks Michael. They've done many lines under our track here in the past several years. Yes, always more problems with the rain, makes the mud spots in the track very soft and causes car rocking than does dry or frozen track.

[@philipfleming3546]

Sure looks like you all can use all new ties pull all that ballast out and clean it and put add fresh ballast looks like you got too. Much foreign material mixed in with that ballast also company needs to let loose a little bit fix the track correctly

[@ccrx6700]

Yes you are right Philip, need some "spring cleaning" don there. Thank you for taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@thomastrainsmore2010]

Awesome video

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Thomas, glad to hear you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@lawrietaber657]

Excellent vid Dave thanks hell of a job getting it back to normal .

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Lawrie, hope Mrs. is still on the uphill trend. Thank you for taking the time to visit and check out the video my friend.

[@rogermason5833]

So how do you prevent mishaps like this happening again? Do you have to be more proactive at identifying and replacing bad ties before they cause derailments?

[@13eckerlosmuerte]

Rolling inspections

[@freedomfan4272]

@13ecker63 how can u inspect something that's covered in 4inches or more of coal dust?

[@ccrx6700]

That's pretty much it Roger, have to keep the coal cleaned off the tracks so I can see the ties and spikes before they get to the point where they pose a danger to spreading gage. Thank you for taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@rogermason5833]

@@ccrx6700 I enjoy seeing the day-to-day details about railroading you present; especially how you deal with the inevitable problems that come up. Good stuff...

[@ccrx6700]

@@rogermason5833 👍😊

[@haroldishoy2113]

Dave, thanks for a rail gage explanation and how they are different.

[@ccrx6700]

You are quite welcome Harold, glad you enjoyed the show. Very much appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@beyondmiddleagedman7240]

Is that a tight spot in gauge about halfway between the points and the kink? It just looks wasp waisted to me. But that could just be the video. (Around 14 minute mark. L

[@ccrx6700]

Line spot in track behondmiddleagedman. Needs tamped. Thank you for taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@beverlymichael5830]

It’s amazing how fast they got it all cleaned up. You had a long memorial day weekend. Hope you did get some rest. Thanks for the video. Stay safe out there.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Beverly. The few guys that did show up worked very hard and did a great job at patching the track back together. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend.

[@espeescotty]

It's good that Hulcher was able to get in there and get everything cleared up so fast...and even better that all of the cars involved stayed upright. Thanks, Dave.

[@ccrx6700]

They did an amazing job and quick Scotty, but that's whey they are the best in the business, at least around here. we do rely on them. Thank you for watching my friend.

[@TomBattCG]

Thanks for all your inside info with a nice casual easy going tone. The lack of wild music as with some videos is also appreciated 😄 My gauge is nine millimeters, commonly referred to as N gauge. Considerably less expensive and easier to manage than your railroad 😂. Just remember to wear your most powerful reading glasses. 😂

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Tom. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@tracksidemike]

Thanks for sharing great video there👍🏻🚂

[@ccrx6700]

Your very welcome Mike. Thank you for taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@michaelpass2176]

Well buddy you are doing ok. I’m just going sit back and watch. Drink some more ice water.😊

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Michael, yes sir we're doing okay, had some pretty good guys who worked really hard to get track back in service. Always a pleasure to have you visit with me and may you have a most blessed day my friend and enjoy your refreshment.

[@Zebrails]

8:18 "China..." careful. They didn't cause the derailment. Lost me.

[@aronzbick7235]

his bad maintenance and overlook caused the derailment

[@ccrx6700]

I was being facetious about that Zebrails. Thank you for watching the video my friend.

[@bazza945]

You are, as always Dave, a mine of information. 😊

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you so much Barry for the kind words, that was really nice of you to say that. Very much appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@Gitbizy]

How long does it take to empty the full trains?

[@ccrx6700]

We have 38 cars Gitbizy, when all is running well it takes about 45 to 50 minutes to empty the train. Takes just about the same amount of time to load them also. Thank you for checking out the video and may you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@aolinger680]

I absolutely love watching your videos. My Gramps was a 50 year veteran for the Erie Lackawanna in Meadville PA and I recall many nights when he was called out for this and that derailment. I was too young to appreciate the things he dealt with on a daily basis. Your videos are a treasure trove of un-appreciated memories of my gramps for me. May God continue to bless my grandpa, Lucas Artmen and you! The stuff you are sharing is REALLY something special. THANK YOU. And please be careful out there, Gramps got run over by an engine in the Meadville yards exactly two days past his 65th birthday (he needed 6 more weeks to reach 50 years with the Erie Lackawanna) on or about 1972.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment aolinger, glad to hear you enjoyed. I sure wish I could have met with your grandpa, we would have talked railroading all day long. Sounds like a special guy. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@QUIX4U]

@@ccrx6700 Have a chat with Shoestring Hobo - (an old rail-rider and KZbinr) as his knowledge of the rail is impressive. ie: www.youtube.com/@TheHoboShoestring

[@brucestark48]

Yes! second part just dropped. Great video as always Dave

[@ccrx6700]

Glad to hear you enjoyed it Bruce. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and for the kind words. Hope you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595]

Does the layer of coal dust accelerate cross-tie decay?

[@ccrx6700]

Yes it does Dr. Mastare. Specially when the coal gets wet. Acid in coal is hard on not only steel but also wood. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@dougackerman4182]

Glad your back in business Dave

[@ccrx6700]

You and me both Doug. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@PlanetMojo]

A hole lot of damage because of a case of nervousness 🥴Glad you got her up and running again so quick!

[@ccrx6700]

Nothing at the local drug store to cure nervous rail Mojo...:-) Thank you for taking the time to visit and check out the video my friend.

[@Bassotronics]

A happy Dave is a happy railroad. I hope no more derailments for the year and hopefully never again! Barreta will be watching. Haha. 😅

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Bassotornics. Happy Dave makes for good videos..... LOL Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend.

[@rolandvachon9848]

I've been watching your channel for some time now and frankly from what I've seen, I thought that a lot of those ties were well beyond their service life and needed replacing years ago.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for sharing that Roland, you are right. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@nomadsempirebuilder9461]

Dave this is Bullshit FFS Fix it lol sweet vid

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@jesstreloar7706]

As a measurement I think gage is more proper. Wire gage is used in measuring electrical conductors. Gauge is most often used when referring to a device used to measure force. Now that I think about it, an old boss had Go / No Go gauges made up for the manufacturing floor.

[@chrisstromberg6527]

According to Merriam Webster: gauge: a measurement (as of linear dimension) according to some standard or system: such as (1) the distance between the rails of a railroad They also state "variants or less commonly : gage"

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for sharing that Jess. Very interesting, I never considered about the wire gage before. Appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in and may you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@alanjantzi4102]

Why are they still using square nuts?

[@ccrx6700]

Look at a square nut and look at a hex nut. More surface area to grab into the washer on a square nut Alan. Thank you for taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@dezertraider]

LOOKS GREAT DAVE..WHY DO THEY USE SQUARE NUT?STAY AWESOME..

[@ccrx6700]

Good question dezertraider. Think about the surface area of a hex nut and a square nut where it meets the washer. Square nut has more surface area, thus better gripping and holding capabilities. Thanks for tuning in and watching and may you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@dezertraider]

@@ccrx6700 THANK YOU.MAKES SENSE..

[@ccrx6700]

@@dezertraider 😊👍

[@rtz549]

That heavy coal train likely induces more wear faster than a regular train.

[@freedomfan4272]

Of course it does, the average coal car loaded weighs around 100tons

[@ccrx6700]

You are right about that rtz. Lot more weight than auto carriers...:-) Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@SleeTheSloth]

Inferior parts from China! That's what caused the derailment! LO LO LO

[@ccrx6700]

Gotta love Chinesium. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@carguy0000]

Great video Dave, you've answered a lot of questions that a lot of us probably had. I've always been fascinated with trains going all the way back to when i was a kid.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment carguy. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@DOCTORDROTT]

Ours is four foot eight and a half gauge . It was said that that measurement came from the distance between Roman chariot wheels. That track looks rough. We use much stronger rods than you have in the video and now have more concrete sleepers ( ties) Great video, I did 45 years in the industry .

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Doctordrott. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@edwarddavis507]

Thank you Dave!

[@ccrx6700]

Your quite welcome Edward. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@brandonkcox]

I really enjoy your videos, all your videos shows real life situations that I’ve dealt with as a MOW track worker, especially derailments at our coal terminal here in Alabama. The majority of the derailments were caused by wide gauge due to the coal corroding the rail and spikes along with lateral pressure of the coal cars, ending with the rail rolling over. lol countless hours of overtime!

[@ccrx6700]

Very glad you are enjoying the home movies Brandon. Your so right about coal eating away at the spikes. It eats up the tie plates, rail and joint bar bolts too. Our problem is the coal builds up and then you can't see the spikes to do a proper track inspection. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.

[@trailwayt9H337]

Engineer sir. from ccrx 6700 Railroadin. I am Thomaskutty your old viwer from India. I watching your video is after of number of months now. I am enjoys your video further next.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Thomas very much for taking the time to visit with us and for writing in. Hope all is well with you. Question> are all railways in India government owned? May you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@TriGogglin]

Another great video Dave, glad everything got patched up with a quikness to turn and burn.. didnt know there where 2 different types of gage bars, i have one of the ones you shown.. good stuff

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the kind words Pappy. Nice to hear you liked the video. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend.

[@dorothycole8611]

Very interesting.

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video.

[@doddyvanstraaten2774]

Gage and gauge are both English terms. Gage is predominantly used in 🇺🇸 American (US) English ( en-US ) while gauge is predominantly used in 🇬🇧 British English (used in UK/AU/NZ Europe and Asia) ( en-GB ).

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for sharing that, guess since I speak English I was right....LOL Thank you for taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@w.rustylane5650]

HOwdy, Dave. I always enjoy your videos. Even the old ones. It's a whole lot easier re-railing an HO scale car than what you have to do. I reckon it's hard to maintain 4 feet 8 1/2 inches with rotten ties. Cheers from eastern TN

[@ccrx6700]

Rotten ties are the bane of railroading as you probably already know Rusty. I learned to re rail cars when I was a boy and running my HO set, they were always coming off track if I remember right. Really appreciate your taking the time to check out the video and may you have a very good day my friend.

[@bazza945]

Gage & gauge Switch & points Trucks & bogies Railroad & railway Labor & labour Harbor & harbour. Makes life interesting, eh?

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Barry, yes it does make things interesting. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@rickski3769]

Hmmmm....so....during shutdown...No money...❓...wouldn't that be the best time to do maintenance ..❓ ( sounds like mine is running "week to week" ) 🤔 I don't understand...

[@ccrx6700]

I will have several videos explain all about the shutdown coming out soon Rick. Be patient you will get all your answers in those videos. A couple more weeks before I start showing them. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@HugsBach]

Excellent job

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment HugsBach, glad to hear you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@QUIX4U]

7:49 And you wonder about a LITTLE deformity in the switch blade? Stand back and think a little about HOW FAR that switch blade had been FORCED into bending in many directions, during the derailment itself, to bend the fishplate that much. Oh sure the bolts were either popped (by the force) or sheered off from an earlier derailed wheelset, but the actual blade of the switch (called a switch blade) which is the tapered rail in the turnout, which help select which way a train is "aimed" )as they cannot be turned, even if some call switches a turn-out), must have been at several extremely violent angles, to bend the fishplate that much. The blade of the switch had to be extremely bent and at several angles too, upwards as well as horizontally, to get that Fishplate kinked & contorted the way it is, as it sits on your Ute tailgate. Therefore, yes, replace that blade, as it could easily fail (it will be crystallized within the rail) - so that at any time, it will snap (instead of bending.

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate your "expert" analysis of the situation at hand Quix. May you have a most blessed day.

[@SD40Fan_Jason]

Those ties aren't so bad. You can sell it to the local Home Depot for some schlub to use in his garden as a retaining wall for a couple more years. Ha! Meanwhile the last railroad I worked for before I retired believed in the holy gage rods. We had one curve that was about 70-72 degrees, parallel the chattahoochee river. We called it Gage rod curve because it had almost 200 gage rods in it. Who needs ties? And if we derail on it, MORE gage rods! At a certain point, I would think gage rods are no longer helping.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for sharing that Jason thats pretty wild, I can't imagine that sharp of a degree curve. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@kevinblevins2612]

Using Chinese iron on a track coupler for a coal mine that SHOULD be firing US steel mills IRONIC!!!!!!

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate your sharing your thoughts Kevin, it drives me nuts they buy chinese steel sometimes for my track. Thank you for taking the time to visit and check out the video my friend.

[@douglasskaalrud6865]

“Gage” and “gauge” are NOT interchangeable. A gage is a DEVICE for measuring and displaying a given unit like a dial gage on a Vernier caliper. A gauge is a MEASUREMENT between two points and sometimes has a name associated with it. In railroading, both in prototype and modeling, there all kinds of gauges for distance between the rails. You use a gage to measure the distance and you express the distance in gauge, or, out-of-gauge if you’re having derailments. Gage is a device. Gauge is a distance.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on that Douglas. Appreciate very much your taking the time to check out the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@TacticalGamingNetwork]

Excellent!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Tactical Gaming Network, glad to hear you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@SubTroppo]

Fishplates (made in China). I know the US doesn't make computer chips anymore but fishplates!

[@ccrx6700]

All of our fish plates are made in the US Pablo, but you are right China does make them, all of our frogs here were made in China. Thank you for paying us a visit and may you have a very good day my friend.

[@dodgydruid]

Here in the UK, the gauge is known colloquially as the "4 foot", the area between double tracks the "6 foot" and the bit on the outside or the edge of the ballast the "cess" as back in the days before sealed toilet tanks, if you stood in the cess when a train rumbled past, the pipe would discharge itself right all over you with toilety screams from the encased track worker so you always stood beyond the cess. If the train was moving at speed usually the speed caused the matter to disintegrate but it was common in slower areas to find "blind eels" or "Richards" (Richard the 3rd=t*rd)

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you dodgydruid for taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@OldSloGuy]

All mainline US Railroads are Standard Gage, 56.5 inches. This was established in the early 1800's in England and stems from a Roman Chariot in the British Museum according to a newspaper article. The Museum doesn't have a Roman Chariot and never did. So, where then did the 56.5 inches come from? Its mathematics. When you compensate for centrifugal force on curves at speed, the calculations are expressed in degrees of super-elevation of the outside rail. So, you need a long, small angle protractor. They don't exist, so there must be another way. It just so happens that a one degree slope is one inch of rise in 57.296 inches. When you look at the rail profile, there is a 3/8 inch radius on the top shoulder. So, the wheel loads begin 3/8 inch from the face of the rail at the top of the rail. The Gage is measured at the inside faces of the rails, so subtract 3/4 inch from that calculation and you get 56.546 inches. This is railroad track, not a machine ship, so forget about the 0.046 inches left over. That is slightly more than one millimeter. So, with a level placed across the track and raised to level above the inside rail, the super-elevation is measured directly in inches from the top of the inside rail to the bottom of the level. Railroads have been doing this for almost two centuries. No fancy, expensive tools needed. Rails are also crowned, so we ignore that too. There are levels made to simplify one man operation. With modern electronic levels you can get a digital readout of the Super-elevation which rarely exceeds 4 inches or 4 degrees,

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for sharing that information with us OldSloGuy. Pretty fascinating stuff isn't it. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@wernerdanler2742]

Never thought this kind of info about track would be interesting, but it is. I'll have to watch some more of your videos. I have a question. How do you avoid continuous track going all crooked with expansion and contraction from temperature changes? Is track made from mild steel? I'd think high catbon steel would be to brittle. Thanks Dave.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment wernerdanler, glad to hear you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend. CWR is anchored every tie so it helps to prevent rail creep.

[@kraz904]

Usually Hulcher or any of repair companies will work through to complete a job and then knock off. If they weren't finished, I doubt they would have packed up their equipment nicely. For these companies time equals money. And seeing it was a holiday, I'm sure they made a lot of it...

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Kraz and you are exactly right. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@trainman2k]

Hello Dave! Thank you for another fabulous video! So few people have any concept of all the 'behind the scenes activity' it takes to keep trains on the track and rolling. I'm so happy that you are able and willing to enlighten those who desire to learn. (This probably is not the forum to do this in, but I am wondering what video editor you use? I'm contemplating starting a KZbin channel)

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks for the good comment trainman. I use Wondershare Filmora, it's not the best but is functional for what I need but there is also a monthly fee of 9 bucks. No big deal tho. It has a lot of features I never use and takes some getting used to in order to learn it but I imagine all of them do. Appreciate your taking the time to tune in and check out the video my friend.

[@StormySkyRailProductions]

Great video as always dave and enjoyed watching. Looking good on the repairs. have a wonderful upcoming thursday.(Steve)

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Steve for the kind words and for checking out the video. I'm sure you been on your share of all nighters over the years. May you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@StormySkyRailProductions]

@@ccrx6700 Your welcome and oh yes for sure. Thanks and have a nice rest of your Thursday.

[@KetilDuna]

As a once mechanic I feel a little envy. If you drop a part on the ground you'll likely find it again.. Thanks for sharing!

[@ccrx6700]

Your right about that Ketil, and our parts are much bigger than the ones you had most likely...:-) Thank you for taking the time to watch and may you have a very good day my friend.

[@broadwayltd1]

Give me a break made in China what could you possibly expect in the way of performance.

[@ccrx6700]

How sad it is we have to buy RR stuff from China isn't it. Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and may you have a very good day my friend.

[@Kevin-go2dw]

Thank you for the informative video. At 16:15 I like the spikes at the bottom left. Not sure if you can buy them like that off the shelf. When working on 2'6" gauge, if under sized would use two track jacks on their side, base to base to widen the gauge.

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate your sharing that Kevin, we have used a jack and a crib block plus we also have a special gage tool to widen or close gage that has a ratchet in the center of it. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@bigmackstruckstop9213]

That's awesome Dave,your the glue that holds that place together,when you retire,it might come unglued, I really enjoy watching your show and I'll catch ya on the next one

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Big Mack. I'm only 1 monkey in the circus here, when I go, they will just get another monkey. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@bigmackstruckstop9213]

@@ccrx6700 your welcome, and I can understand that

[@ccrx6700]

@@bigmackstruckstop9213 👍😊

[@jasonboche]

That's railroadin! Another great video from a professional. Stay safe out there.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment Jason. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@jayhopkins6990]

Without reading the other comments what is Tony Beretta😢 best known for.😊And thank you Dave for giving us an honest look at the coal mining industry. 😊😊❤

[@ccrx6700]

Don't do the crime if you can pay the time.... and that's the name of that tune. Thank you for taking the time to visit and check out the video my friend.

[@intlcounty8571]

Great Video Dave! Was wondering from your videos, are you guys a private energy company running it's own rail track for coal trains to get into the mines and load? That would then explain why they don't have the financial budgets to upgrade all the ties and track at the same time. In the coals mines here, BNSF owns and maintains all the tracks, so they would just replace all the track ties and rail and upgrade it rather than have to come back again and again. Track inspector trucks are run up and down these tracks daily throughout this region. The Hy-rail trucks are assigned to the drivers so we don't have to go pickup a rig each time were called out.

[@ccrx6700]

We are a coal mine, that has a RR not a RR, so a good part of the money goes under ground and at the prep plant, RR takes last dibs seems like sometimes, but our new owners are doing a much better job at getting us money than our last company did. Thank you for taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

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[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@brnmcc01]

@17:25 left rail, gage side, bottom of the frame, why is there two spikes pulled up out of that tie plate and bent over like that. Can you pull those spikes, and put some of that powder in the holes, and spikemaul a couple new spikes while you're there...?

[@ccrx6700]

Spikes apparently have come loose there and pulled themselves up by passing trains pumping the tie. Yes sure spike is an ideal candidate for that. Thank you for taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@CobraChamp]

Sounds like a few tough months Dave with no revenue... I'm a little confused with the comment about bankruptcy and the screen note that said no revenue for 2 months. Did that cause the company to have to file for reorganization?

[@ccrx6700]

Our last company had filed bankruptcy, I made a video on that couple months ago on where would you spend the money, please watch it to learn a whole lot more. We just had a 2 month shutdown for a long wall move underground, there will be several videos coming out on that one soon. Our new owners are not in bankruptcy and are spending much needed money on the RR so much better than the last company who spent nothing. Thank you for taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@OregonCrow]

More information learned from the one and only! Thanks so much for your efforts Dave, we all know you don't have to be doing any of this stuff! CHEERS

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment OregonCrow. Glad to hear you liked the video. Appreciate your taking the time to drop by and check out the presentation my friend

[@ericberman4193]

“…I’m just coming to work here … 10 to 7 …” - why them’s are Banker’s Hours !!! :

[@ccrx6700]

Hope you have a good day at work Eric. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@dodgydruid]

Should you be worried that quite a few of the new spikes aren't even contacting the rail foot in a fair few places? To be fair listening to the passage of the wheels it does sound pretty sweet, that decent thrum you get from good rail and support.

[@ccrx6700]

Not worried cause the track was in gage and also a good many of those ties you saw got later pulled and replaced with new ties. Guys on midnight put those spikes in and did the best they could under the adverse circumstances they had going for them at the time.

[@irongoatrocky2343]

Dave when ya cut corners on costs somewhere some how it will wind up costing you more! this is a perfect example of that! I worked in a shop that did that and eventually it cost them a very important machine seam making machine! in the process not to mention the down time and money they spent REPLACING the machine as opposed to simple maintenance!

[@ccrx6700]

I hear you well on that one irongoatrocky. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.