Ultrasonic Rail Testers found a 30% Growth Inside the Rail Head

[@StormySkyRailProductions]

Very cool Dave. Brought back a ton of memories in this video from piloting Sperry and Herzog when they came onto our property. I guess I still hold the record for most rail miles tested in one day on my old territory on the CP. I also remember changing a lot of rail behind the rail flaw detectors . I also piloted the old SRS Sperry on track detectors before they started using what we called the bread truck detector vehicles. I also remember having no hydraulic tools or our truck would be in the shops. I am glad I got to learn the old way of doing things by hand from all my former co workers that were from the Milwaukee Road era. I would love to give a shout out to Rick Ziesse my section foreman when I started who is no longer with us and is on the big railroad upstairs looking down.Rick taught me a ton when I worked for him plus can't forget many of the other older guys from that era. I miss double windmilling spikes with Rick and it was a lot of fun back then which we had some great crews. Thanks again so much Dave for bringing back so many memories in your videos and can't wait to get back out there later this year and visit once again. Have a wonderful rest of your weekend.(Steve)

[@ccrx6700]

Awesome reply Steve. Thank You so much for what you taught me when you came here and rode track with me. And Thank You so much for sharing with me your personal copy of the Canadian Pacific "bible". I do reference it a good bit. I like it better than CFR book. It's much more comprehensive.

[@emknapp6713]

Looks good Dave!

[@StormySkyRailProductions]

@@ccrx6700 Your very welcome and anytime Dave. It was an honor to share with everyone and also with the book for cross reference. Thank you also once again for all the support to our channel and for what you do with yours. Its awesome.

[@Milepost1965]

Your a Diamond in the rough Dave, every railroad needs good men just like you.

[@2xKTfc]

In the rough? You mean once Dave grows up he'll be a fully polished gem? Them youth today, running around with 30+ years of railroad experience already 😂

[@billsmith3195]

Agree.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Donnie for the very kind words and for stopping by to checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@robertf3479]

Always finding out new things from you Dave. This time it was finding out steel rail and presumably bars and steel structures can "rot" out in this way.

[@ccrx6700]

it will be a most interesting video on transverse and compound fissures when I make it and will tell you in that video how a tiny nucleus inside the rail, molecule in size can grow inside steel, like a cancer. It's amazing Robert. I just don't know yet when I'm going to make that video, I've got over 50 already made and just waiting to be published so lot's good stuff coming your way. Glad you could take the time to visit with us tonight my friend.

[@CameronMcCreary]

Those fissures are weird. I was a machinist before retiring due to injury and some steel alloys are prone to internal problems when, steel is hot rolled and trains are then rolled over defective sections.

[@leonardd6122]

Trapped gases/moisture is a concern in tire manufacturing, too.

[@ebnertra0004]

There are a handful of documents out there that detail the different types of defects or failures in rail. There are a surprising number of different ways that rails can go bad

[@wolfpacva]

I saw today where a CSX coal train derailed in WV about 20 miles west of Roanoke VA. They knew they had a bad wheel on one of the cars but tried to make a siding 8 miles where the detector told them the bearings were way too hot. They did not make it and derailed 9 cars.

[@ccrx6700]

I'll have to check that out wolfpacva. We had a bearing go bad again today on one of our cars, they caught it in the yard. Appreciate your sharing that info and for taking the time to watch my friend.

[@espeescotty]

Boy, that frosty/snowy scene in the beginning sure looked refreshing. We here in Arizona have been baking at over 110° for going on 20 straight days now. Where I am, 25ish miles east of Phoenix, we got to 116° today and are looking at 118° in a couple of days. Back a few years ago, I went out to the Union Pacific on a sweltering day to catch some trains working in the heat near a little town called Gila Bend and just as I arrived on the scene, before I could get my camera set up, the defect detector near me called out a temperature of 125°! 4-hours later, when the next train showed up, it had eased back down to 122°....but, I got my train! 😄 Luckily, no sun-kinks that day and all kept moving. Rough days, especially for the MOW crews. Thanks, Dave! 🤠👍

[@ccrx6700]

I heard you guys were getting blistered Scotty, wow glad it's you and not us. Hope you get some soon relief. 122 bet you had to put your sweater back on .....:-) Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@espeescotty]

@@ccrx6700 Hahaha...I certainly did have to bundle up! 😆

[@dezertraider]

LOTS WORK TO KEEP THE TRAINS RUNNING..GREAT VIDEO DAVE..

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Ralph. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@rakasome]

I love watching you Dave!!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you rakasome for the very nice comment and for taking the time to watch my friend. Glad you are enjoying the home movies.

[@shirleyharrington-moore9657]

It's interesting that your tamper found one bad spot that the fancy machine missed. Thank you for sharing the instance. When you have help to pull spikes and replace rail, the job probably does seem easier, but I'd bet you three got a work out to get the change made in 48 minutes. CCRX is fortunate to have such dedicated employees. Thank you for sharing, Dave.

[@ccrx6700]

Your always welcome Shirley. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Railroading is sometimes pretty hard work.... :-) Hope to see you on the next video, part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@poowg2657]

Back in the day there would be a fact finding after a derailment. Thanks to todays' technology you can now prevent a derailment. Love the rail defect tute., thanks man!

[@ccrx6700]

Yep back in the day the trains found the defects poowg, thank goodness for ultrasonic rail testing. Has saved a lot of lives and derailments. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@madlinerose5038]

Keep throwing that info at us! We need to be informed and have the knowledge to ask the right questions when derailments occur.😊

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Madlinerose. Of course you have to know accurate info, that why you watch my channel!.... LOL Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@mikefochtman7164]

We had some heavy steel structure start to fail with cracks. The lab people were able to look at the crack and see the circles from each time the crack 'grew' and they figured out how long it took to get as bad as it was. Had to replace it of course and that was a job in and of itself. So interesting that they can figure out things like that. Sort of timely to talk about cracks and crack growth considering that story in the news about the roller coaster support that started cracking and within a week or two had completely separated. With that rail that failed, I'm guessing it was some tiny imperfection in the rail? I mean it looks like any other section of track but somehow it started to crack and just kept getting bigger and bigger. Anyway, always learning something new and enjoy your shows.

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Mike. Yes it was caused by an impurity in the rail rolling process and made worse over time by the train traffic. Expansion and contraction of the steel does not help matters either. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@0dbm]

You are the best , love the good attitude, and concern for quality work

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the kind words Odbm. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@rickcooper6817]

Thanks Mr. Dave. Always enjoy learning something new about railroading.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Rick. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@DiamondMaster20]

A really interesting video, Dave. It was also very interesting to see the differences in regulations and instructions in Steve's book. Until next time... Andrew

[@ccrx6700]

Really glad to hear you enjoyed DiamondMaster. Really appreciate your checking out tonight's presentation my friend.

[@DiamondMaster20]

@@ccrx6700 I saw you hanging about on Steve's premiere too. 🙂

[@WaylandJoe]

For about a year, I worked along side a ultrasonic rail testing team. One night we found a 100% T O defect on the main line outside of London. This required us to immediately fit a clamp to the affected rail. I was employed as a lookout/site warden, working both days and nights covering some 5 miles per shift - walk about 2.5 testing one rail and then turn around and test the other rail, using what we called sticks, basically a wheeled instrument with a large central wheel in which the ultrasonic signal passed through and into the rail. Or use handheld detectors for the rail ends. When it came to the paper work, we record the rail type and where it was manufactured such as 'workington steel' as an example. Also any defects found, type and location such as 36mile 25chain. Which line it was. Heading back to our van for a nice cup of tea or coffee. Sometimes we just walk the whole 5 miles to another van. We also use test trains running at line speed upto 125mph with various types of equipment fitted and any defects found are marked with a yellow line in the fourfoot.

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate your sharing that with us Kezza. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@kevinaurandt6280]

Thanks Dave, fascinating the detail of maintenance of the track and right of way. I enjoy learning this

[@ccrx6700]

Your very welcome Kevin. Glad to hear you enjoyed. We do appreciate your dropping by and checking things out my friend.

[@israelswearingen8219]

Thank you again for the updates

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Israel for taking the time to watch my friend. Glad you enjoyed the show.

[@lewistodd9242]

Great video Dave. That looked like some nasty cracking. Have a great weekend my friend.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Lewis for the nice comment, glad you enjoyed it. Appreciate your taking the time to watch my friend.

[@haroldishoy2113]

I do ultrasonic NDT but not on railroads. This sector of NDT has always fascinated me. This video is as close to a clear explanation as I could have asked for so thank you. P.S. You’ve gained a new subscriber

[@ccrx6700]

Glad to have you with us Harold and welcome to the show. Be sure you watch tonight;s video where I explain a bit about how it works. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@mikeykirkgaming]

i find myself watching all your videos! ive only worked for a shortline railroad. about 160 miles of track i believe. So cool watching you do it by the book! wish i had the opportunity to work at an outfit like yours! Very respectful!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you mmmyykkee for the nice comment. Very much appreciate your taking the time to check out the video my friend.

[@beverlymichael5830]

Glad that was caught before it Caused an accident. So much to keep eyes on to keep things running great. Thanks for another video.

[@ccrx6700]

You're certainly welcome Beverly. Yes glad it was caught also before a derailment occurred. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend.

[@danherrmann8755]

Thanks for the ride. I never knew this would happen. I was under the impression, steel used was very good quality steel. A lot of wear steel on steel. Later.

[@ccrx6700]

Your are welcome Dan. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@ianhughes7805]

Thanks Dave another splendid Video, I appreciate it

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Ian. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@texaswonderer5564]

Nice video as always. Have a good weekend

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Texaswonderer. Thank you so much for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@seanqualey2417]

Dave TY or another outstanding show "YOU THE MAN DAVE" keep them coming

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the really nice comment Sean. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@38911bytefree]

Very interesting. Crazy how such a big deffect can hide. Thanks for sharing

[@ccrx6700]

You're very welcome bytefree. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@sweynforkbeardtraindude]

Another good one my friend! Always informative & entertaining.

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the really nice comment Sweyn. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@jeffpiatt3879]

10pm in Central Texas and it is 90 degrees! Wish we could get some snow, here. Great info. on the rail growth. Very cool!

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Jeff. I'm ready for some snow myself, it's high 80's. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend.

[@Bassotronics]

That black growth in the rail is pretty much like rail cancer. Sadly there’s no chemotherapy for rails other than welding in some cases. Great info as always! 👍🏻

[@ccrx6700]

it is exactly like a cancer in the rail Bassotronics, grows from a tiny molecule and has growth rings. Glad you enjoyed. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend.

[@daveadock2874]

Always interesting when you show these things that pop up. It is really good when you explain what needs to be done to remedy the problem. Really good stuff!

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the really nice comment Dave. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@eugeneellison6479]

Totally awesome video as always. My daughter is learning to identify different rail cars. I'm going to have to start her on your videos. She is figuring out what a FRED is too.

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Eugene. We would love to have her join in with us, although I don't have any videos on the different types of rail cars. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@JOHNMORIN100]

Your attitude makes all the differancd we like nice people LIKE YOU THAT ARE A BLESSING TO ALL.. WHO WATCH YOU 1000 POINTS.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you so much for the really kind words John. That really meant a lot to me to hear that from you. Very grateful my friend for your taking the time to watch the video and write in.

[@brianhickey5949]

It looks like these transverse defects are there in the rail from the manufacturer and that the stresses and environment make them grow. The one you showed is under the head of the rail and would be hard to find. Maybe this one was found on a track inspection initially but was too small to require action. If so, then this follow-up ultrasonic inspection was the trigger for the replacement. I know that once I saw it, I was thinking that the defect could easily lead to a rail failure and a derailment. The replacement was then completed - well done!

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Brian, glad you enjoyed. Yes it was caused by an impurity in the rail rolling process and made worse over time by the train traffic. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@brianhickey5949]

@@ccrx6700 LOL! I guess I have a masterful grasp of the obvious :)

[@ccrx6700]

@@brianhickey5949 😊👍

[@richardbause2453]

Good job 👏 👍 Dave... COOL video 📹 on a Hot 🔥 summer day 😂😮...😅

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Richard. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@fireballxl-5748]

Is the problem from a manufacturing defect that eventually appeared? Thanks Dave!

[@ccrx6700]

A transverse fissure originates from a tiny molecule in the steel Fireball then train traffic over the years causes it to grow like a cancer inside the rail. Too much to explain in a comment reply. Thank you for taking the time to watch my friend.

[@michaeldunagan8268]

I like the showing of the regulations. I like the explanations and the processs explained also.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad to hear you enjoyed that Michael. I like when folks tell me what they like and don't like, that helps greatly in making future videos. Appreciate your taking in the video my friend.

[@mjphillips76]

I have some questions: @6:30 how long has that rail been in the line? Is there such a thing as a log book that keeps track of when each section of rail is installed/replaced? Is that a thing or a computer program? Do old rails get recycled or cut up to remove the defect area and rewelded? I ask about the rewelding as I caught your previous video on thermite welding.

[@ccrx6700]

1. rail was originally rolled in 1975 US Steel Illinois. 2. Yes we write down and keep track of all track maintenance like changing rails in a log book, that is being changed over to a computer program. 3. A rail that has an ultrasonic defect never ever gets resold for anything other than scrap, It is unethical to sell a known rail with a Sperry defect for relay rail. 4. Thank you very much for watching my friend.

[@mjphillips76]

@@ccrx6700 Thanks for the quick reply so late in your evening.

[@ccrx6700]

@@mjphillips76 👍😊

[@timothystrauss3838]

Another nice video Dave

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Timothy. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@YiOughta]

There is some interesting research on ground conditions and the creation of resonance frequency in the track steel. "When a train runs on soft ground it can approach or even exceed the speed of surface waves in the ground. Under such conditions the amplitudes of the track response increase considerably. Moreover, a resonance-like phenomenon can occur in which a clear oscillation trail can be observed behind the moving axle loads. An investigation is presented of this resonance frequency and the critical speed effect for a track on a layered half-space subject to a moving load"

[@Bassotronics]

Resonance can be evil. Just like a bridge when you meet it’s resonant frequency can be a problem. ‘Flex flex flex crack!’

[@YiOughta]

@@Bassotronics I'm thinking it adds to the destruction of these rails, makes defects fail faster. Might be Dave's operators hot dogging the trains when no one's looking

[@ccrx6700]

I would love to read that futtewuk, can you provide me with a web link please? Soft ground like we had at MP 1.66 is never easy on track infrastructure. thanks in advance for getting that to me. That is the kind of stuff I love to learn about. Also appreciate your watching and writing in my friend.

[@ccrx6700]

it is my firm believe that soft ballast does indeed cause internal defects to grow faster that's why I want to read proof of it in print so I can take it to management and show them studies done.

[@YiOughta]

@@ccrx6700 I'm going to try and link it, the title is Analysis of resonance effect for a railway track on a layered ground

[@hughgautier3894]

Here's something to make you think warm...the time is now 1955 and the outside temperature is 92 degrees here in NW FL 40 miles from east of Pensacola.

[@MottyGlix]

Not all your readers are in the US. Give the temperature scale: Fahrenheit or Celsius? (Since you're already giving the time in European 24-hour format.)

[@ccrx6700]

I'm ready for cold weather again Hugh, I don't like the heat, but that's just me. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@raymondsprengelmeyer1278]

Thank you for another interesting video Dave! Railroading is a very complex business!

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Raymond. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@theodoreshasta7846]

Very informative! Thank you!

[@ccrx6700]

Your quite welcome Theodore. Glad you enjoyed. Thank you for the nice comment and for taking the time to watch my friend.

[@old-corvair-guy]

Learning something new,Thanks dave.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Old Corvair Guy. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend.

[@wilburroth5150]

Great info Dave. Can`t wait for the next one.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Wilbur. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend.

[@derrickanderson4932]

Very interesting video Dave.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Derrick. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@paulsmith5398]

YIKES! For a few minutes, it appeared there was snow in early July, until you got the dates straightened out. That snow would feel good on a hot July day, though👍👍👍👍❗

[@ccrx6700]

I'm ready for some snow about now Paul! Tired of this high 80 stuff, I like it cold. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend.

[@paulsmith5398]

@@ccrx6700 from what the national weather radar shows, your area should have got some rain. Not sure if its needed in your area, but at least its a little cooler than those sweltering 80s. I dont mind a "little" snow, but before it gets over a foot deep, thats when i get out and stock up. We have had a few days in the 90s here in central Illinois,, and the Ultraviolet reading has been a "10" for quite a few days. When it gets above "6", thats when i stay inside, per my dermatologist, because i am 5 times more likely to get the bad kind of Melanoma.

[@kg4muc]

Great video as always!

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed kg4muc. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@rtqii]

Love your channel Dave. Excellent content.

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the kind words rtqii. Thank you so much for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@smithgroove945]

You look so happy when you are Railroading! I would be as well. Even after my train wreck. 👍

[@ccrx6700]

I am happy to be a railroader smithgroove, maybe that's why I look happy....:-) Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@ericcoffedgp40]

That is incredible! Wow! Thanks for sharing that with us! (Alexandra 🚜)

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the kind words Alexandra, glad you enjoyed. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@thefutureisretirement]

Hi Dave. I Love learning about Railroading from Your Channel. Most every Morning I go for a Sun Rise walk and usually end up at the Freight Train yard here. I was wondering about the different colors of Paint I see there. I see Orange Paint in Your video for the problem You are talking about and I see writing on a lot of the Rail here too. Interesting indeed. I think our little freight Yard is not in such good shape here. I will look closer at that this Morning if the Train is not running. Thanks for Sharing.

[@ccrx6700]

You are welcome. I'm pleased to hear you are finding out some new things from watching the home movies. Next time you're in the freight yard take a can of orange spray paint, upside down marking paint.... and start spraying defects.....:-) Yes various RR's out there use different color paints to mark different things, there is no industry standard on colors of paint used for particular defects. I use orange because it's easy to see.

[@thefutureisretirement]

I see green and orange on some of the Rails here. Thanks for the great information.@@ccrx6700

[@billmoran3812]

When I was working for the railroad in Massachusetts, we had Sperry inspect the track twice a year with their self contained rail car. They traveled all over the northeast on inspections. I went with them as a pilot on our territory a couple times. It’s amazing how their equipment can find and mark defects at 20 mph! Here in Kentucky, I see Sperry using special high rail trucks to to inspections. Amtrak does their own inspections on the Northeast corridor from Boston to Washington.

[@ccrx6700]

They use trucks here cause the Sperry car cannot get in here Bill. I always go with them but follow in hi rail truck and put joint bars on behind them....:-) Appreciate the nice comment and Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@TriGogglin]

Dude another great informational video, cant image the days before this technology..

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Pappy. Before testing the trains found the weak spots in the rails....LOL Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@edbiedenkapp1322]

I did enjoy this show. That was great info thanks Dave.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Ed. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@jonwatt678]

Dave, you are such a wealth of information for us laymen into all the behind the scenes operations of railroading.. Thank you sir for all that you do AND thanks to the company for supporting you in these videos...

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the really nice comment Jon. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@Bongofurry]

I tell you what You're really learning me up. Thanks

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Bongofurry. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@wolfman7393]

Always love the information.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Wolfman. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@romancharak3675]

I laughed so hard at your Roy Rogers joke!

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Roman. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@cncpreferred848]

Dave, During the melting and rolling process to make the rail, sometimes a little slag (anything other than clean steel) can get tangled up in the pour. Decades ago I was a Metallurgical Apprentice to melt 6 ton of iron per heat (melt). Everyone does their best to try to prevent impurities from getting in the batch of iron or steel, but there can be a dozen or more reasons why the iron or steel would have defects.

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks for sharing the information cncpreferred, great stuff! Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@cncpreferred848]

@@ccrx6700 You are welcome my friend! I am a railroad buff. The SWP Railroad line runs past my property about 1/2 mile south of the Radebaugh Siding off the NS mainline. I watch your videos since your rail line runs in the region. SWP had run coal from Bullskin Twp to the power plant a few decades ago. Keep up the good video's!!

[@ccrx6700]

@cncpreferred848 cool. SWP in my back yard 👍😊😎

[@r.t.rakubio5088]

Love the channel you always have some good stuff on here. I worked in the maritime industry so it’s neat to see the the scope and labor involved in the rail road industry.

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment R.T. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@scottleidenberger4401]

Great show Dave ! Very interesting. Always learning something new Thanks for sharing.

[@ccrx6700]

Your very welcome Scott. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@johndonlan5956]

This is one amazing video! Thank you so much for explaining everything so clearly!!!

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the kind words, glad you enjoyed John. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@davidcotton7668]

that was interesting dave have a great day !

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed David. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@johnkelley9877]

This was really interesting! it is amazing how there can be a hole inside the rail that grows. Thanks for sharing this.

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the kind words John. Hope you'll watch the next video out where I tell you so much more about how these defects develop and give lot's of pictures of them. Thank you so much for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@OregonCrow]

Man I Love this stuff! Thanks Dave!

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Oregon Crow. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@nlo114]

It is fairly easy to spot areas for potential defects: Wet beds and lifted spikes are a tell-tale. When the tie-bed goes soggy, it dips under the weight of the truck. The rail then pivots about the nearest firm bed to the wet area, causing upward motion of the rail opposite the pivot-point. There are then two areas for fracture; the bottom of the dip, and the pivot-point of the rail. Look for wet-beds next to lifted spikes. 🙂

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate your sharing that nlo, you are right, mud in track is never a good thing. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch the video my friend.

[@garymessina1609]

Poorly forged rail too much heat causes that also too ash in the steel dangerous stuff great video thanks Dave

[@ccrx6700]

All internal defects originate from the rolling of the rail Gary you are right. A tiny hydrogen molecule (classified as an impurity) over time grows like a cancer inside the rail over repeated train loading of the rail, mud spots don't help matters. Thank you for watching my friend.

[@mikefrench4787]

Interesting indeed , thank you for sharing

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Mike for the nice comment and for taking the time to watch my friend. Glad you enjoyed the show.

[@randydobson1863]

hello dave it's is randy and i like yours video is cool thanks dave friends randy

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you could drop by tonight Randy, Always is a pleasure to hear from you my friend.

[@lawrietaber657]

This is amazing I never seen this before on rail’s I’ve seen boiler defects were the the firebox fractured on the bottom boiler plates .hell I’ve learned something different today thanks for the vid Dave.

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Lawrie. Got a couple more videos coming in this 3 part mini series and you will enjoy the 3rd one. Be out in a week and a half. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@KB-gs8zi]

Hey Dave !!! Thanks for the ""COOL" video as up to 100* today in SC .!!!! HAHA 🙃😉😉😊 Great explanation as always about rail ""SAFETY"" !!! 🤔🙄👀👀👀👍👍👍👍👍

[@ccrx6700]

I'm ready for the snow again KB! Almost 90 here today, I like colder weather. Glad you liked tonight's presentation and thanks so much for stopping by my friend.

[@pathvalleyrailroad9277]

I had to check to see when this video was filmed, that certainly doesn't look like Greene County PA in July!

[@ccrx6700]

Wish we had some snow now, tired of this high 80 degree weather, I like it cold pathvalleyrailroad. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@martinaak2539]

Whoo-Hoo from Canada! 😀

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Martinaak. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@squinkys]

Hey Dave! Love all the videos man, I've learned a ton from them! I have a question for you...what is the best time to be trackside if I wanted to take some photos of the Cumberland Mine train running back and forth? I've been working on a book that tells the story of modern railroading in Western PA, and that story isn't going to be complete without a section detailing the unique operation that you guys have going on over there. I've got a couple months left before I'm due to submit my material to the publisher, and I'm trying to plan out a trip to maximize the chances I have of capturing some photos when I come down. Thanks in advance for any response, and keep on making these informative videos!!!

[@ccrx6700]

My email is on home channel page under about me. We will talk further over email on that. I will be glad to be of assistance to you. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend.

[@squinkys]

@@ccrx6700 thanks very much, I'll shoot you a message later today!

[@ericsikma4764]

I must admit...Seeing thst dusting of snow in the vid looks absolutely hilarious since it's currently 96F, tomorrow's forecast calls for 101F and there's at least 15 days where it's supposed to be a minimum of 91F.. LOL! Seeing thst dusting makes me wanna say, "OK, move over. I'm jumpin' in." PFFF!!

[@ccrx6700]

Thought you might like that Eric, it was almost 90 here today. I'm ready for some cold weather, heat bothers me anymore, I much prefer 30 to 40 degrees. Thanks my friend for your checking out tonight's presentation.

[@peterlewis7292]

Hello Dave,. Cor what an interesting lecture, thank you very much for your time to film it and your explanation. Dave what caused the pin hole leading to the groath within the rail, I'm guessing it was an impurities within the metal when it was rolled? Many thanks, have a good and hopefully a trouble free week. Rgds, Peter.

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the kind words Peter, glad you enjoyed. Yes it was caused by an impurity in the rail rolling process and made worse over time by the train traffic. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@loubro2372]

Very informative Dave.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Lou. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@rolfmissing4554]

Not in the railroad business...but interesting to get a insight into the rail maintenance side of things

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment rolfmissing. Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@Hyrev1]

Interesting video Dave! Appreciate the up close photos..pretty enlightening to see how those cracks develop. Also interesting to learn of some differences in regulations between rail lines with the help of Steve's book. Thanks once again Dave! 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃💯👍🇺🇸

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Jim. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend.

[@annettelaurence5716]

Thanks Dave, see you on the next one🙃

[@ccrx6700]

You're always welcome Annette. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@michaelpass2176]

Hello Dave hope you are happy today!

[@ccrx6700]

I'm happy most every day Michael, although sometimes I could be happier, but always happy to hear from you my friend. :-)

[@billreal76]

Interesting stuff on the That's Railroading Channel !

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Bill. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@onetuliptree]

I never realized it was all gov't regulated, and interesting to see the difference in regulations, the snow in July was bonus!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you very much Tahoedewey for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend. Its too hot here i'm ready for more snow!

[@dorothycole8611]

Interesting. The snow made it feel a little cooler!

[@ccrx6700]

After this high 80's glad something cooled things off. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video

[@here_we_go_again2571]

Interesting. Thank you for sharing.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome here we go again, glad you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@damonhill5168]

Good to know your outfit is using modern inspection methods in addition to long experience in the real world. How good is the quality of new rail from the mill? Old rail I'd expect to have cracks and damage, voids and inclusions, little time bombs waiting to go bad at the most inconvenient time. Good video!

[@ccrx6700]

That was 1975 rail that had the defect in it, they got their money's worth out of it! New rail is of very high quality Damon. You are right on the little time bombs! Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend.

[@williamralph5442]

Very interesting Dave, you know your stuff. Surprised you have track issues since you run at slow speeds. Thanks

[@ccrx6700]

Slow speeds but heavy weight plus some poor track ballast conditions William. Also plus some old infrastructure, my work is cut out for me trying to keep this train on track and moving. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@MRR_Shadowolf]

Great video! Always educational if not entertaining as well!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Schadowolf for the nice comment and for taking the time to watch my friend. Glad you enjoyed the show.

[@captaindunsell8568]

Company in California… FA… was investigating a derailment… the cause turned out to be a quarter size void in a wheel that cause the wheel to eventually split and initiate the derailment

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate your sharing that captaindunsell. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@PatrickWatts-v5u]

Thank you for the video dave. Do you ever allow visitors at your railroad?

[@ccrx6700]

We get rail fans a good bit Patrick, to actually come on the property would require a tour guide (me) plus MSHA safety training to be on mine property, plus proper PPE. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@mikep1085]

Hey Dave.... great video. Two questions come to mind. Can a thermite weld ever 'repair' a bad spot on a track, or is it only used for joining two sections of track? Also... you have shown thermite welding on your channel in the past..... (and may have addressed this question in that video... but I don't recall the answer).... on your track, when would you use a thermite weld versus a normal joint connection?

[@ccrx6700]

Thermite weld is not allowed to repair an internal defect Mike. None of our joints can be welded because of the 3rd bolt hole in them, too close to a weld. We can weld in plugs we cut in tho that don't have the 3rd bolt hole. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@Santafefrank]

Thanks Dave

[@ccrx6700]

Your are welcome Frank. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@israelswearingen8219]

Why did some of the rail ties seem to be warmer ( lack of snow ) than the others when you were driving out to the faulty rail? Could this be an indication of anything or is this a “ hot rail” or a “ whetted weld area” or that sort

[@ccrx6700]

Heavier creosote on them than much older ties where the creosote has dulled out over the years of weathering. Creosote heats up faster than those ties which have little left my friend.

[@gutfinski]

With guys like you out there, I feel a lot safer traveling by rail!

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the kind comment gutfinski. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@artillerest43rdva7]

some roads have more restrictive rules then the federal regulations, like at work dupont’s exposure for different chemicals is usually less then the federal regulations. based upon the SDS {safety data sheet} so every company has their rules and regulations. rail defects are a big issue, all based upon small imperfections in the steel as the rail is made, a small imperfect spot are weaker then the surrounding steel and can cause big headaches! great video, and explanation of the situation, it is great finding all the issues on the tracks!

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Barry. Yes it was caused by an impurity in the rail rolling process and made worse over time by the train traffic. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@artillerest43rdva7]

@@ccrx6700 any flaw in the steel is a weak point, and as it flexes over time the flaw separates and starts to grow! causing more areas to fail . thank you Dave for all your great replies to my inquiries, your knowledge is vast, and accurate. thank you for the great conversations too! I always learn something from your videos! have a great week and be saf out there! barry

[@ccrx6700]

@@artillerest43rdva7 👍😊

[@morse2795]

Wow, that bad rail is really scary to me Dave. It sure is a good thing you all caught them bad spots.

[@ccrx6700]

Yes Morse internal rail defects are nothing to just shrug off. Thank you very much for stopping by and checking out the video my friend. Hope to see you on the next video part 2 of ultrasonic rail testing.

[@israelswearingen8219]

Is anything done inspecting wise before the installation of the stick?

[@ccrx6700]

Other than checking track gage no Israel, we put in a new stick of rail there.

[@fionamichaelpaterson4411]

Dave, another great, informative video. Question about joining new to worn rail. I am a permanent way (MOW) volunteer on a heritage railway in the UK that uses bull head rail and cast iron chairs on the sleepers (ties). Here in the UK we joint new rail to worn rail using stepped fish plates, I think you call them jointing bars. If the difference is only small we use shims on the upper surfaces of the fish plates. This removes the need to grind the rail head. Do you use stepped joint bars or shims.?

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment fionamuchael. Step bars are used for joining two different sizes of rails from the way I under stand it from those in your area who have commented in the past. Those bars here are called compromise bars and yes we use them, although they have a big tendency to break. Here is a video I made on compromise bars, let me know if that is what you are calling a step bar, thank you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWPPm4OZjL2EaaM

[@fionamichaelpaterson4411]

@@ccrx6700 Dave, I guess that a compromise joint bar is used to join flat bottom rail of different weights. I am assuming that they are used if the rail rail head is at a di fferent height with reference to the rail foot. On our bullhead rail the new rail is the same the same weight (95lb) per yard as the original rail only the rail head is lower due to wear. To compensate we use stepped fish plates or shims to compensate for the height difference. Thank you for taking time to reply. Sleeper changing tomorrow. I also have a Stumec Geismar TB2 engine to get running.

[@ccrx6700]

@fionamichaelpaterson4411 understood on the rail head wear and stepped bars thank you

[@dougdoeright4196]

Metallurgic defect from the mill or just fatigue or stress point some of it looks like. I had a good friend who was a metallurgist and he showed me a lot of things about steel. Another one of my obsessions to learn more about lol! anyway very interesting stuff! Happy railing buddy!

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment Doug. Yes it was caused by an impurity in the rail rolling process and made worse over time by the train traffic. Thank you for taking the time to stop by and check out the video my friend.

[@TheJstewart2010]

Another really interesting video, and I'm looking forward to the follow-up with the explanations of the defects. When you said that you found another defect with your tamper that the ultrasonic testing missed, how did you know that it was a defect? Did the rail break when you lifted it with your tamper?

[@ccrx6700]

Appreciate the nice comment TheJstewart. Yes rail broke when the tamper lifted it and you could then see inside the rail. That was the second pic I showed you in video. Thank you very much for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.