CDJ NEXUS 3000 vs Denon SC6000 | HELP ME OUT!

[@DJPhilHarris]

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[@PhantasmX7]

I have been Dj'n since 2000, I have used Pioneer my entire career until last year....I switched my rider and I haven't looked back. Denon's technology is just way ahead of the game right now. I am so happy that I changed. I've connected BeatportLink and absolutely love it. Pioneer has changed but not enough to make a difference. I guarantee if you get Denon you will be super happy. I'm a techy guy, so the tech in these are right up my alley. Whatever you choose, I'm sure you will be happy, but my recommendation is Denon.

[@BungHoleCamper]

Still the truth today! I had either 2 or 4 of every Pioneer deck since the 800s. I was about to pickup a pair of 3000s and tried a pair of SC6000s at the shop - the 3000s were out the window at that point. There are some slight nags about the 6000s however, the Pios have their issues as well. The SC6000 features COMPLETELY blow the 3000s away. Streaming connectivity is awesome and is reliable. This may not be a required by most club DJs however, it's an valuable feature for other types of DJs. Built in storage is also a game changer. To this day, Pioneer is still lagging way behind Denon. Pioneer's Beatport streaming is just about useless. Given the price of these decks, shame on Pioneer.

[@PhantasmX7]

@@BungHoleCamper Since my comment had come out a couple years ago, I still agree. The cost of a 3000 can get me an entire Sc5000 and x1800 mixer setup or (2) sc6000's, I do wish that Denon would improve on the (cue, play buttons) Pioneer is supirior in that hardware, but I just cant justify the cost of Pioneers just to play mp3 or wavs. I do really like the new Pioneer A9, I was thinking of tring that mixer out, but I am still currently very happy with what I have.

[@m-stat9]

CDJ3000: -no dual layer functionality -no performance pads -no internal track analysis -no cross-platform support -no inbuilt HD/SSD option -no internal WiFi/Streaming -no loop encoder -no multitouch touch screen -no reserve power (power failure) -small hot cues buttons located in horrible position -only one USB port and it got downgraded to 1.0A -no SDXC support ( 🤦‍♂️) -cost $1k more than SC6000 and $1500 than SC5000 Go for the Denon, save a lot of money, enjoy innovation and support more brand competition! 👍

[@ImpactSpace]

THIS IS ON POINT! Pioneer is greedy and lazy af.

[@davidbetts2980]

Wow you just helped me make my mind up, cheers bud.

[@digitalbeatjunkie]

The ‘club standard’ thing is bullshit, if u cant play whatever decks are infront of you, your a really really shit dj and shouldnt be in a club anyway

[@WazzyTV]

people still buying cdj3000 and the price increased and is sold out everywhere..the jog wheels are pioneers biggest selling point

[@djtravismcguire]

​@@WazzyTVwell, it's hard to judge based on availability. Pioneer is made in China where they are still having massive supply chain issues due to constant shutdowns. Denon is made in Taiwan and they don't have the same supply chain issues. I still had to wait months for my Denon Mixer, but I got my players quick.

[@gizmomusicofficial]

I have the Denon rig and have used it for about a year now. The Processor on board to beat grid and analyze songs on the fly is awesome. Looping encoder is smooth. the touch screen feels great and provides so much information. And you have a Sata Bay for a drive to have tour library on there is always a great backup tool especially for a mobile DJ. Going between these and a Nexus rig you don't feel lost. All the important things you need to know are on the Denon setup. I think you will enjoy Denon if you move over and can still feel comfortable on Rekordbox and standalone.

[@DJPhilHarris]

Thanks Matt, really helpful. Wow this is soo hard. Opinions are so split!

[@gizmomusicofficial]

@@DJPhilHarris Its is very hard as they are both excellent rigs to use. But I think with the Denon you're going to get quality but most of the downfalls you had were simple software/firmware updates. even with the 1850 mixer most of the issues are software/firmware fixes. its a great setup and I think you'll be pleased.

[@DJPhilHarris]

Thanks Matt

[@ericcheatham4031]

Denon man

[@mohammadafandi8506]

I would go for denon they knows how djs in 2021 should look like Pioneer is overpriced The standard will change its just matter of time

[@BlakeHeart]

Interesting how many likes this has, I’m curious where things land in a few years. I own both and have been in the DJ game for over 20 years, I think Pioneer will always be the go-to DJ system for clubs and festivals...but if I’m proved wrong, that’s good!

[@longwayh]

I agree but how long will it take?

[@RC75]

@@BlakeHeart Why do you own both?

[@DrEricSmithakaDjHawkk345683]

Phil, wow! I just upgraded. I am using my ddj sx2 with two denon sc 5000s. The Denons are awesome! Used with the Sx2...I am speechless! Get Denons. Don't get caught up club standards...it varies from dj to dj.all four decks show up on my computer screen it works well with Serato.

[@ejewell64]

Denon all the way, listen to your inner self! These are the decks of the future.... I've got the prime 4 and haven't regretted it. Love the setup you are considering.

[@mutinyz]

I also have the prime 4 and the sc6000 x1850 rig. totally agree with you.

[@eyes2see368]

I would go for the Denon. That's the setup I'm currently looking to get myself. I'm just really pumped about the motorized platters on the 6000m. Cant wait !

[@hyperfocus4866]

I have the 5000s and they are they are AMAZING!

[@hyperfocus4866]

5000M's that is ;)

[@eyes2see368]

@@hyperfocus4866 that's awesome man. I just finally got my 6000m. I only have one right now but the other one is coming in a couple days. I've been waiting like a year to get them and super pumped I finally will have them.

[@hyperfocus4866]

@@eyes2see368 I'm glad you've got them and i hope they we're/are worth the wait.

[@ardalanst]

had the same question for a long time in my head! my answer to my self : go for 3000 setup! and it is a bittersweet decision! why? I remember fist days of Spotify which was so addictive! i had online playlists and happy till had the next first gig which i realized that i need to go download my music, burn it over CDs and label them and i was so stressed! now i fear the same if i get the denons (which i love) then anytime going out to play ( don't have the luxury of rider list) i will be well behind time to prepare my playlists in rekorbox and sync! the worst will come if i get adopted to streaming on denons ! really happy to get your views on this!

[@DJPhilHarris]

Yes that is the ultimate issue. Get Denon, you say a bit fat goodbye to the industry standard. BUT they appeal to me far more!

[@logesh6711]

Denon. They really do the work.

[@Dj205]

Easy, Denon Dj! Most for the money, you can be more creative with Denon. I understand the club standard thing on pioner, but.. its not a big enough point, in my opinien😅 i have also follow’d Laidback Luke for many years now, and see how is on the decks of Denon is just amazing🤗 the looping on Denon is also so good 👌🏻🥰

[@g30jack]

I have the Denon SC5000 and 1800 mixer. I love this setup.

[@julianparsick4008]

Technically and economicylly I don't see any reason to get the Pioneer setup, like you said it's half the price. I only have testend the 2000nxs setup and the sc5000 setup, but the denon players felt way way better than the pioneers. I also think both mixers are good, even tho I like the feel of the Pioneer more. In conlclusion, I would go with the Denon setup.

[@jackstreatfield9326]

Phil you’ve gotta go with Denon!!! Brought my SC5000 and X1800 set up in November and it’s amazing kit, much more potential than the pioneer gear at a fraction of the price!!

[@DJPhilHarris]

This is what I am thinking

[@goenie1200]

When you are used to pioneer , stick with it. Yes its way more expensive. But its also the most used in clubs. Denon is still the underdog. Not to offend Denon users , when ure happy with Denon be happy. You paid way less.

[@itsamedjmario]

Get the DENONNNNNN’s and a DDJ 1000.. problem solved 😆😆

[@giampaoloastorga2405]

I'd go for the Denon ! even if you said to not look at the money, with the same money of the pioneer set up you can get 4 Denon players and have a very badass set up instead of getting 2 pioneer cdj only. plus the hot cue positioning is crucial, you don't wanna risk to touch the jog while using the cue buttons too.

[@nicolopalazzini6554]

i've tested the engine os on my friend's denon prime 4 and i can say that a massive pro for denon gear is the possibility to use up to a 2tb hard drive instead of a bunch of usb so you can carry with you your entire music library with no problem and wait no longer than 5/6 seconds to analize all folders...and of course analizing single songs directly from the player as you said... THAT is a dj software in 2021!! I played for 10 years more or less with traktor and personally i am gonna go for the denon sc6000 as soon as they will be in italy to buy!

[@nicolopalazzini6554]

ALSOOOO the denon algorithm for pitch stretching is INSANEEEE!!

[@DJPhilHarris]

Great feedback! What makes the pitch stretch better than pioneer?

[@nicolopalazzini6554]

A personal thought about denon players... for me it wont be a matter of club standards, i think in the future we will see a sort of dualism between the players like we saw and see for allen & heath and pioneer mixers...

[@nicolopalazzini6554]

@@DJPhilHarris you can pitch down a song A LOT and you still not gonna hear distortions.. i mean, if you go too much you will but in terms of pitch variations that are usefull for standard djing (thinking of going to 100 to 140 and back easily without serious distortions..i mean, it's fantasy even on traktor, serato ecc.. ) you will be able to do pretty great things whit them!

[@nicolopalazzini6554]

@@DJPhilHarris BTW, great channel and great videos! you've got a new fan!

[@siggydj]

literally half the price, literally twice the decks and does everything the pioneer system does + soooooo much more compared to overpriceneers without sacrificing build quality (tank like builds similar to pioneer pro gear). Club standard doesn't exist anymore in COVID times. Pretty much a no brainer for the Denons at this point

[@BlueHawk80]

The stupid fanboys still fall for it, unfortunately. It's always the same "club standard" mantra. Denon ftw!

[@siggydj]

@@BlueHawk80 they just released prime 1.6 firmwares for the denon players as well as mixer firmware updates for the x1800 and x1850 adding beatport link and beatsource link and dropbox integration along with the soundcloud and tidal intergration that they already had, and DUAL WAVEFORM DISPLAY on each player plus many more things. Denon ftw indeed; pioneer better start listening to their customer base if they don't wanna get wiped by the competition once clubs start opening again and DJs start changing riders

[@saintsteve]

Denon media players with the pioneer mixer would be the way I would go.

[@DJPhilHarris]

Does this work? Also which mixer?

[@saintsteve]

@@DJPhilHarris hey, yes you can connect the denon players to the pioneer mixer no issues. Assuming you don’t need 6 channels I’d go for the pioneer djm 900nxs2. Check out mojaxx on KZbin or Twitch as he has videos running this setup.

[@siggydj]

@@DJPhilHarris nah would not recommend, you lose a few prime features doing this. Plua denon mixers sound better than djm 900s

[@ricardovelazquez6480]

i am going for the denons, I have only one SC6000 but planning to get the other and the mixer. on my expereience resons are: - more features -cheaper as I do not make as much money for DJing -duble layers as I sometimes I have ideas which can only be done with 3 decks(cheaper to have 2 sc6000 and can purchas an LC6000) -wifi streaming is great but I cannot rely on it, internet is not always available but nice to have - on time analysis and pioneer analized songs can always be imported when you plug in a pioneer loaded usb and works great -faster usb and more usb ports - multifunction hot cues reasons i want the pionner -club standar and easier to rent -better FX -stacked waveforms

[@mutinyz]

As a Denon DJ SC6000 and X185o mixer owner I would say they are much better value and have some quite impressive features. But it is always personal choice as to what you buy. I love my Denons.

[@maxwellmitchell8454]

I say go for the denons on the multiplayer side but combine it with the 900nxs2

[@RappDaddy502]

Denon created the future hardware. For the next generation djs. Some djs are still using vinyl. So its just a matter of stand. Vinyl use to be the dj gear. Digital DJs have arrive...

[@gordonwalmsley453]

id say denon as they have always had more features than pioneer looking back in thier history.

[@m-stat9]

CDJ3000: -no dual layer functionality -no performance pads -no internal track analysis -no cross-platform support -no inbuilt HD/SSD option -no internal WiFi/Streaming -no loop encoder -no multitouch touch screen -no reserve power (power failure) -small hot cues buttons located in horrible position -only one USB port and it got downgraded to 1.0A -no SDXC support ( 🤦‍♂️) -cost $1k more than SC6000 and $1500 than SC5000 Go for the Denon, save a lot of money, enjoy innovation and support more brand competition! 👍

[@gordonwalmsley453]

@@m-stat9 most just go for club standard but thats silly option for sake of losing extra features.

[@m-stat9]

@@gordonwalmsley453 yeah!

[@anywherenearzero]

I’m torn on the same. The denon set up now throw in a free LC6000 with every SC6000M you purchase so you actually get 4 decks !

[@oliverjohansen1626]

in your case, i would go for the Denons. they seem superior for you tbh, and i really do believe our beloved DJ Carlo Atendido, is on to something when he says, that its not the equipment that makes the DJ, so don't worry too much about club standards

[@klaxsontapdance1116]

Very very interesting to the point review. So I dj'ed Back in the late 80s and haven't done so since. So I was working on Yamaha PM700 and 1200 mkII's. Fast forward 30 yrs I had to learn and understand all the equipment and the evolution that occured since. I'll be doing vinyl and CDJ. i went with sl1200 mkII's again because of their analogue pitch which is important if you are dealing with 75-89 era strictly. After listening to hundreds of hours of dj reviews and research I went with 1 Denon sc6000m and x1850. This all coming from someone whose jumping back in. It'll a fun hobby for me.

[@Mortgage.Borges]

This! Love my SC6000M’s. Best player since the Technics SL1200mk2 turntables lol. I’ve been Pioneer fanboy forever. I’m glad I chose Denon this time around.

[@straightouttacontext2134]

Hi Phil, I have had the same turmoil over the last twelve months, don't know what you did but, I'm going with... S11 x 2 Reloop 7000Mk2 with Phase. After many decades of the art-form, a bit of the new with the old... you gotta have fun as well 😍

[@denesglavatity2645]

Hey, I think that the main difference between these decks is who they are aimed at. Pioneer sells most of their top tier stuff to clubs and venues, hence the not many revolutionary changes, they try to stick to what worked for 15 years and not deviate so much from it, that people cannot get used to them in 2 minutes when showing up to play on them. On the other hand Denon is more willing to revolutionize and put in as many technologic advances as possible, and they also take good care of earlier products as well (firmware updates keep on coming out for the SC5000, with the SC6000 screen it could easily be possible to have the master deck view on top that you mentioned in the video). I think if you can play on a deck, you can basically play on all of them, however, if you buy Pioneer, you miss out on many creative options the Denons have. I would go for the Denons.

[@DJPhilHarris]

My exact thought process. I think I will get sc6000 the sc6000m and the Djm mixer

[@ev1ltrix369]

Definitly i would go with Pioneer most popular gear, keep thier price long terme even if denon is great, do your self a gift. get your dream setup. stop lookin at money wise. cheers.

[@m-stat9]

'Most popular' is no argument at all, darling. You decide for quality, features and price.

[@leonbruijs4016]

@@m-stat9 everybody want denons because its more affordeble. Sorry for the terrible wrighting im Dutch 🙂

[@haydnr1631]

I would go for Pioneer. They held back on features to make them familiar to those experienced on 2000’s. They have an amazingly powerful processor and amazing build quality. James Hype has 2 3000’s running alongside a pair of 2000’s and was up and running straight away with no problem moving between the newer and older decks. The firmware is upgradeable and wouldn’t be surprised if over time they introduce new features.

[@copeyhagen4249]

"They held back on features to make them familiar to those experienced on 2000’s" LOFUCKNGL as a pionner user, if i had that dollar i would 10000000% pay for the denons. the 3000s are a joke

[@djcvmusic1]

new features = new model (Mk 2) with Pioneer. They always design cdj to be enought powerfull to run actual features so they have no strenght to add new one.

[@DJPhilHarris]

this is interesting, i get they are link tanks, but they just lack so many obvious features which the denons have

[@haydnr1631]

@@DJPhilHarris If they released a 3000 that was feature packed (like Denon) they would alienate the Pro DJs that expect to turn up to an event and start working regardless of what Pioneer deck was available. If you buy Denon you’ll have to bring your own gear. You are definitely right in going for the 3000 as over time this is what the top venues will provide. Once 3000’s become the default, I believe firmware upgrades and Recordbox updates will add features worth DJ’s ditching their old decks. The 2000 and previous will be left behind (with new features they can’t access) because Pioneer wants you to upgrade. We students aspire to use Pro Gear therefore I’m sure a lot of us are really looking forward to seeing what you do with Pro Decks we see our ‘heroes’ eg James Hype using. I’m sure you’ll soon be able to save up for the additional pair of decks 😆

[@denesglavatity2645]

If you like the DJm mixer better, then go for a hybrid setup. Other than linking them together, it works.

[@djmadwax]

This is a no brainer - why would you pay double the cost for less features? Lol

[@DMulabiTalejan]

Pioneer has a cultish mental strangle-hold over DJs. Dont underestimate that!🤣🤣🤣

[@djchris.anderson]

Denon all day long I have a set of SC5000 and love them never had a problem with them. And would rather take them to a venue then play one the pioneer gear just because of the features

[@drinkseverything]

I switched from pio to denon over 3 years ago & will never switch back. Just take the risk & go for denon. As for industry standard, let's face it, thanks to covid there's no industry !

[@patrickwells1079]

What clubs are open now?

[@Dutch-Clogstar]

Pioneer or Denon is simple No brainer for me .. I go DENON all the way !

[@leatherwoodrc]

Love my CDJ3000s. Sold my sc5000s for a huge loss after only having them for a year.

[@DJPhilHarris]

Why did you change?

[@BlakeHeart]

About to sell my Denon set up too, so I feel this comment...but it delayed me long enough to wait for the 3000 and the V10 mixer... Thinking maybe I should make a KZbin video about my experience...

[@leatherwoodrc]

@@DJPhilHarris In my humble opinion Rekordbox software is far easier and superior. Most artist riders ask for CDJs and this isn’t going to change for years. Pioneer has done an excellent job with its mechanical Jog wheel. The SC5000s are too heavy. Beat count up or down to cue point. and The Beat jump/loop jump behaves in a logical implementation. Beat jump issues have been brought up to Denon for a few years now. The cue and start buttons pioneer uses are better. Essentially what I need and want the CDJ do it in strides while the SC5000s are just not there. Denon was taking too long to answer a waveform display software glitch which still hasn’t been fixed. There a couple things I still don’t like with pioneer units, but getting the software right is a basic requirement for DJs in the digital age.

[@leatherwoodrc]

@@BlakeHeart many including me have this exact same experience. The CDJ2000nexus 2 was a huge disappointment and should of never happens. Glad Denon forced pioneer into finally stepping up their game.

[@hexafall926]

If you never tried denon and you are happy to try something new, it's worth checking out. My personal opinion, wifi is the game changer here, as everyone uses streaming service and people want to hear music they listen to every day. After all you have to prove that paying for your performance is better option than plugging in phone with spotify app ;-) switching back to pioneer for club performance shouldnt be hard as you probably have experience with them and cdj3000 was designed to be intuitive for nexus users

[@realdjxan]

If were just about to get the Pioneer's and the denons held you back, then get the denons. You wouldnt have wanted with the denons if you truly wanted the Pioneers. Also they look really cool and i, and probably many other people, would like to see a review of these because we see the Pioneers everywhere. Whatever you get it will be a good choice.

[@LONDON501]

For the price of the nxs3000's you could get the sc6000/m setup, a prime 4 and a prime go and still have enough to go on holiday ! I have a prime 4 and it has so much going for it. I also found I got more creative on it and find it more versatile to use. (previously had pioneer xdj-rx). I have also just got a prime go which is great fun too and so much easier to have a quick mix while sitting on the sofa. 😄 You make great content so would it not make sense for you to have the option to be able to show things on different setups so it can appeal to more viewers? An Sc6000 with an Sc6000m for general mixing and scratching videos/tutorials, a Prime 4 for your mobile gigs and a Pioneer DDJ1000 (or similar) for showing stuff on that platform and keeping you familiar with 'club standard'. This gives you way more options to produce content going forward too. Although you may want to spend the 6k all on one rig you may want to think about what would be best for your business too. Another thing is that as your channel attracts lots of newer and younger DJ's and they might be looking at getting a prime 2 or 4 eventually (especially as they come down in price on the 2nd hand market) so using that equipment would resonate more with them. They are not likely to be spending 6 grand anytime soon. Just some thoughts for you, I hope it helps. Good luck with your decision.

[@DJPhilHarris]

Great feedback! Yes I agree which is why I have never really upgraded to higher end equipment yet. Due to my audience

[@louprimo6062]

Get the 2000 setup. It’s club standard. Most clubs are not going to upgrade if they have a working club system. I’m not.a big fan of the nexus system because controllers do so much more and give goo more bang for your dollar. If you’re a traveling dj Phil you should always bring your own controller because when you get to the club you don’t know the condition of the decks you’re about to play on and more importantly what firmware updates they have. I did a club gig once the decks and mixer were horrible. I ended up using my spare controller and happy I always take it with me on every gig.

[@louprimo6062]

The 2000s are real CDJ’s they load CDs into the turntables as well. The 3000 are just turntables, no loading Cd’s and you could probably get a killer deal on a great pair. Don’t keep up with the latest technology you will end up losing in the long run. There is nothing wrong with staying just one step below with a real proven Club standard system.

[@snoproductions]

I’ve used the 2000’s for years and now own a set of Denon 5000M’s for about two years and I absolutely love them! Technically it is a no-brainer to me. The 6000’s are way more advanced, future proof and allow for much more creativity and workflow improvements. The double deck functionality and WiFi capability complete the package! I have used both Pioneer and Denon in many live settings, sometimes even in a mixed set and for more than 90% of the time I choose Denon for a live mix or mashup! I do understand your argument on wanting to own and familiarize yourself with the club standard. However, when you are already used to NXS2 you will have no problem with the 3000 when playing around with it for the first time. Too little changes and improvement, especially for that price! I’m curious what your final choice will be!

[@DJPhilHarris]

I agree but my gut says “just stick with pioneer”. Really tough. Also check out the comments. Every other comment is different

[@snoproductions]

@@DJPhilHarris True, the comments are not making it all that much easier 😉. I read one that actually caught my attention which said that if you were about to get the 3000’s but you were hesitant at the last minute because of the Denons, you should get the Denons. Now, I think that might be pushing it a bit, but it is a valid point. The question is what you are looking for? If you want to get what you expect out of a player, go with Pioneer. Al the familiar functionalities are there plus a couple of new ones. If you want to get the best and latest tech possible with which you can get much more creative, than go for Denon. I really think that you, as an experienced DJ, will enjoy Denon A LOT! It is a tough call, in the end consider which table tops will get you excited most when you switch them on? For me it was Pioneer for years, but with the 5000’s and especially the 6000’s I’m very glad I made the switch. If you want to discuss in depth, let me know.

[@dvq4633]

If it's going to be a home setup then why would the industry standard even matter?

[@DJPhilHarris]

So I get comfortable when I go to the clubs

[@m-stat9]

If people always rely on 'industry standard', then there would be soon no other brand left than Pioneer. And they are already lazy and greedy af.

[@robisadj4133]

I upgraded from DDJ1000 to the full Denon set up, and it was absolutely the right decision. I do believe Pioneer will remain industry standard which is why I have kept my DDJ1000, but for what I as a bedroom/home/stream DJ need, Denon has everything! I have nothing to gain by having the CDJs at home. I personally would like to see you get the Denons. Due to the pricing and abundance of features, moving forward I think more of your subscribers will be using them. The main features on both are similar enough that it won’t matter. I’m no professional by a long shot so the tech side of things is largely lost on me, but the Denons are easy and fun to use, with a superior build quality than the 5000s. I stream quite a bit, and the ability to accept requests on the fly is worth it’s weight in gold to me. My ego would love the Nexus set up, but I feel for double the price I’d get less out of them. Team Denon all the way 👊😎🔥

[@RC75]

Hi Rob, was it hard to switch from a ddj 1000 to the Denons? Think about doing the same.

[@robisadj4133]

@@RC75 Not at all mate. The size the units is obviously very different but the layout is easy to switch to. The freedom of being able to play without a laptop is a real game changer. You won't regret it!

[@RC75]

@@robisadj4133 Thanks for the info👍🙂

[@mashy7s150]

I'm a little late for the comments party.... nonetheless I would personally recommend a mix of both 900NXS2 for the Mixer (Better sound quality and ease of use in terms parameters, resonance and effects) for the players clearly the Denon SC 6000's!!! They have much much more to offer!! (you already know their features)

[@itvisor1]

Both are super nice and you will not feel and bad... I love The Denon players by far but my heart still with pioneer software. As I play mostly with laptop 💻

[@ikun9531]

I got DJ on CDJ3000 since it came out last year. I’m in China, working for one of the biggest Pioneer dealers here. So I got the decks and play on them very early. In my opinion the CDJ3000 might be more stable and of course more global, but somehow the Pioneer went conservative this time. When it comes to functions the CDJ3000 lose and apparently Denon SCs have more abilities such as Cloud Libraries(sadly we can’t use cloud in China due to network problems) and more. Although CDJ3000 has brand new MPU unit and runs really fast, it is a great DJ player but it just can’t be defined as THE NEXT GENERATION DJ player. Just like PS4 Pro isn’t the PS5. Looking forward to see Pioneer become pioneer again.

[@DJPhilHarris]

Thanks for your feedback

[@DJShadow1966]

Mojaxx at DJ City was so impressed by the Denon SC5000 he bought a pair for himself, check out his review of the SC5000M, he confirms it!

[@DJPhilHarris]

Yes I saw, very tempting

[@splashilein]

I sold my pioneer gear, to switch over to denon. Then there came corona and now I am waiting, but I definitely will give denon the chance, the last denon device I had in clubs was the denon 2000F back in the days, then every pioneer, until the 2000nxs2

[@splashilein]

By the way club Standard changed over time! Back in the 90s the standard in Big Clubs was the Dynacord M1, 2 decks of technics 1210s/1200s and a denon 2000F.

[@siegerkempers3105]

I have the Denon prime 4 myself and I absolutely love them, I’ve used rekordbox before but the engine prime works just as good and if you really wanna use rekordbox the Denon decks work with rekordbox too. The streaming in combination with multiple decks works great for me, if i get a request I don’t know or I still have to analyse I use the 3rd or 4th deck to listen to the song and analyse it while I can still continue my set of the other two decks. I would totally recommend Denon.

[@kereshandukhi7134]

I would go for pioneer, just for the quality, look and feel of it

[@DJPhilHarris]

I know what you mean. They just do the job

[@justino9042]

Both are top tier of quality basically at the same level but pionner its more like overrated and that's the difference maybe the jog wheels looks a bit better in my opinión but overall the denon its completly worth it and more affordable

[@giuseppepennisi8699]

By the way, pioneer is plastic and Denon is aluminum. The Denon’s weighquite a bit more. The only thing Denon has to improve is their mixers and that will happen soon. When it comes to players there’s no contest for Denon. They simply out perform everyone else.

[@m-stat9]

What 'quality' you mean when looking back at all those plastic bombers with ancient screens? Denons are made of metal, have power buffering and coated PCBs, that's some serious engineering stuff.

[@siggydj]

@@giuseppepennisi8699 they just released updates for the x1800 and 1850 mixers firmware that solves all the minor issues that users were having, the biggest one being the high frequency rolloff. They now sound pristine, way better than djm 900 and 900nx2s if we're comparing with pioneers. Very close to A&H xone's warm sound

[@DBLG65]

I have the Denons and after a year of using them, my biggest complaint is the accuracy of the hot cues. It's just not on point. Sometimes it's on, sometimes its off. It's not a beat grid thing, it's how you strike them. Gotta be dead center most of the time. Pioneer, I never had this problem, well at least with the CDJ 2000NXS2. Always on point. Next complaint is although you can stream with the Denons you can't organize the music. Last but not least, the resale value on Denon equipment is horrible.

[@shaunp221]

Pioneer all day long bro, your used to that eco system and they won't change from the standard unless venues start putting them in and if I'm honest that won't happen for a while due to the pandemic. Venues won't have the money to be upgrading dj equipment when we all go back to it, pioneer are solid, great sound quality and the layouts familiar to what you already know. I like Denon but the reason they are getting these big djs on board is because they are paying them to endorse the brand. Hope this helps :)

[@shahancawasji9515]

I would go for the Pioneer setup.

[@Tom_makes]

My biggest problem with Damon is there Mixer is just not on the same level as a Pioneer Mixer. That is why I will get a xone 96 together with 3 SC 6000.

[@pebz202]

(WARNING, semi-long post) As a SC6000 owner, I'll add a few things to yours lists that I have encountered since buying my Denon (note: I do not have the mixer or any of the CDJ setup; my set-up is a DDJ1000 with the SC6000 connected to it). A few more pros for the Denons is that: 1) there are more slots for a USB (3 total) and they are "protected" and not sticking straight up where someone might hit the USB stick or pull it out, 2) the Denons can also have an internal storage device so you won't need to constantly bring a USB, you can save songs onto the internal device and play them later, 3) the SC6000s (not SC6000M) are electronic platters like your current controller and the CDJs are mechanical, this may be a personal preference but sometimes those mechanical jog wheels may require you exert more force onto them than you would like (to each their own about this one). Now some cons: 1) as with anything new, learning how to operate the Denons when you've been using Pioneer 5ever will be a HUGE learning curve; don't want to go into details to keep this post as short as possible, but it's not gonna be a smooth transition learning a new company's gear, 2) Denon's Engine Prime is in its infancy and needs A LOT LOT LOT of work done on it before it can contend with Rekordbox and Serato (the Denon gear can't even control Engine Prime and play music like you can with your controller and Serato) (extra tid bit here: the Denon set-up is actually a certified Serato attachment and if you were to hook it up to your laptop, you could play music from your Serato library through the SC6000s and mixer; take that info how you want). *inhales deeply* Now the main question I think you kind of need to answer is: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH YOUR 'DJ CAREER?' Do you want to be the next Guetta and play at clubs, pool parties, bars, Ultra, Tomorrowland, etc? Then the CDJ set-up is definitely the path to pick (note: most clubs more than likely won't have the 3000s for a least a year or two I feel as their current CDJ 2000 NX2s are working without problem). Are you wanting to do events like corporate parties, birthdays, frat parties, weddings, etc.? Then the Denons are more than likely the path to pick. All DJs that fall into this category rave about your Denon pros #4, 5, and 6; as well as my pro #2, but mostly on the STREAMING CAPABILITY. I'm gonna stop here.

[@DJPhilHarris]

Amazing feedback. So much to take into account. My head is saying denon at this point. And perhaps get some xdj-xz to get to grips with rekorbox and the nexus setup

[@pebz202]

@@DJPhilHarris The XZ is definitely a more budget friendly option for the CDJ 3000s! It's also compatible with Serato. Just know that you can only use 2 channels on mixer. To use all 4 you would have to attach some players onto the XZ.

[@KessunRetale]

Just got 2x SC6000 and x1850 for my bedroom setup 😁

[@giuseppepennisi8699]

Denon is the new standard. Clubs and festivals are not opening anytime soon and when they do, why would they spend more for less with pioneer. Also the quality of build on the Denon is far more superior. Aluminum frame opposed to plastic pioneer. Pioneer is a complete rip off.

[@BlueHawk80]

Denons also are water-proof, have coated PCBs. This is TRUE club standard quality!

[@fabricecalvaire8059]

Hello fron France ( and sorry for my bad english lol), a Denon setup cost 3090 for 4 players( double layer) so I think it's not fair to compare it to the Pioneer set up ( only two player so to be fair you must take 4 cdj3000 to have the same set up) if you think that the mixer of pionner is better than the denon , so take the denon players and the pioneer mixer it will be cheaper than the entire pioneer set up and anyway you will have more for your money.

[@falcon81701]

Did anyone notice the setup at the Ultra Music Festival Miami was Nexus mixer with SC6000 decks.

[@ianhardy2662]

Personally, I would go for the Denon but maybe I'm biased as have Denon controller and its awesome!!. However if you truly want to get onto the main club circuit, its a no brainer as they are virtually all Pioneer.

[@Funkadelic-Freak]

I also have the same problem. Djing with SL1210mk2, I am also thinking of getting the pioneer cdj 3000 or denon sc6000. Pioneer is the club standard and Denon's not. What shall I do...? I don't have a tree at home where money grows. I don't care about the mixer. I have a Xone 92 and very happy with it.

[@jochipchip]

A lot of folks poo pa VDJ..but it has stems you can make your own acappellas.....so customizable and you can also create your own skins the way you want them to look and even put your own logo in the center!....just putting it out there since you were considering RB. Pioneer gets my vote.

[@franksmulders9991]

I am pioneer fan, so no question for me 😁

[@dbzzz11]

Hey Phil, go for the Denons but also get Pioneer DJ1000 SRT, I know a bit excessive but at least you'll be in the same ball park with the 1000 (ie club standard or near abouts) I won't even mention Rane 1

[@dbzzz11]

Also your students are probably going down the Pioneer route

[@DJPhilHarris]

That’s interesting, what do you base that on? Also what about the pioneer ddj- Xs2

[@dbzzz11]

@@DJPhilHarris On the 1000, there are a lot of features similar to CDJ's. Also it enables to gain memory muscle so you feel at home when at a club with Pioneer dj gear. The only downside is gaining Serato effects without midi mapping, but the built in effects are amazing.

[@leapoffaithleader]

I would personally go with the 3000s only because I really like the DJM V10. Denon has yet to compete in the 6 channel - 4 band eq market. Besides that I love the SC6000M option. I feel they really nailed it with their flagship here. Main take aways: cue point location and the fact that you have the option to buy motorized platters. Come on Denon, launch a solid mixer!!! I suppose could use the Play Differently Model 1 but pioneer has has better efforts and the DJM V10 has features the Model 1 doesn't....like channel compression, dual microphone inputs, ect. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm not able to link anything but CDJs to the DJM V10 or loose compatibly. I could be wrong so be gentle lol Just want to be able to use the V10 with SC6000M without issue.

[@DJPhilHarris]

No you can actually connect denon to the djms. That makes this even harder, you could mix and match!

[@leapoffaithleader]

@@DJPhilHarris Good to know! Yeah it does make it that much harder now...but with that said I would do the DJM V10 with SC6000M's CDJ 3000s are next level but still not above Denon in my book. It's almost like Denon took the lead in a lot of ways.

[@Jaredozo-z4i]

Maceo Plex was using the sc6000s with the V10 last year in a couple of streams I saw

[@djbean08]

I can see where you are coming from with club standard. For that reason I would say get the pioneer mixer so you know your way around it. As for the decks they pretty much work the same. I play out on pioneer cdj2000 and 900nexus 2 (pre covid) but have a Dennon prime 4. My dream set up would be Dennon sc6000m with the 900 Nexus 2. All the cons with the Denon that you mentioned are on the beta update so I hear.

[@antonbersbo3846]

Why not buy the Denon's and then use some of the spare money to buy a DDJ-1000 or XDJ-XZ, this way you get both the club standard from pioneer DJ and the cutting edge from Denon?

[@kevbotsmevvy]

Heart says Denon but the standard is Pioneer and that is just not gonna change. Nothing better than getting to the gig and the gear is what you are used to. Takes some of the pressure off.👍

[@jasonnicholls5662]

any decent dj should be able to use any rig

[@jandekok9349]

It will change

[@ClectaSkiMusic]

Buy the Pioneer & give me your SX.. LOLZ... great video hope you make a wise choice to benefit you the most..

[@Jusef_97]

You can get the xdj xz and maybe one or two sc6000 for channel 3/4 and plus you can connect them to beatport and stuff

[@freqcity]

grab the cdj's with the fancy mixer bro there's no way you're going to regret that. you deserve it

[@NJX_ONe]

if you're using them at home i would go denon. the ability to just analyze on the decks itself and make playlists. Pioneer requires too much preparation.

[@cmdeeqtee7057]

I went with the Denon motorized set up.

[@danielvran]

What about denon sc6000’s and pioneer djm v10 mixer 😎

[@kevgiles4645]

The 3000’s would last such a long time. Yes the price is ridiculous, but the enjoyment from the package would make you soon forget about the price :)

[@ImpactSpace]

Denon also "last such a long time" and bring "enjoyment", don't worry.

[@dean2559]

If you decide to go for the CDJ-3000s, just know that you’re gonna have to analyze all of your songs in Rekordbox 6 in order to fully utilize all of its features. It’s been a pain staking task for me to reanalyze and fix all of my files that weren’t analyzed correctly, but I’m glad I did because there is no more updates in Rekordbox 5. Having said that, I had the same dilemma of deciding between the Pioneer and the Denon players, but I decided to go for the CDJ-3000 because of its simplicity and dedicated buttons for single functions so that there is no confusion during a set on what mode you have a certain button set on. If you haven’t seen Priyonjoni’s CDJ 3000 presentation video, you should check it out. It was because of his presentation that I decided to get the CDJ 3000. Here is my unboxing video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2OWoIeGn6qteNU

[@albex8717]

Pioneer's buttons feel nicer. Worth the money imo

[@tschango303]

I am just a nooby bedroom music mixer. Not a dj but i always trust pioneer. I never buy a Club Standard but i like the feel and Touch of pioneer.i trink pioneer lesen a lot in the past time and they want no looser.

[@prizm_ofc]

The thing is with the denons, all the benefits go to waste when you pull up to a club and they don't have denons. So if you don't want to carry around your denons to every gig, get the pioneers.

[@m-stat9]

That's pretty much nonsense. 1) Denons read Rekordbox sticks 2) If you are a famous DJ you can always request Denons for your gig 3) In worst case, yes, you just carry them. I would rather do that than paying more for less.

[@maciekciach812]

SC6000. I have DDJ-1000 and was looking for upgrade. Considered XDJ-XZ or something from CDJ/XDJ series. And finally bought ... 2x SC5000. I don't regret a single penny. You pay for what you get(and you get twice as much with dual layers). Not for a brand that had market monopol for so long. And created stupid "club standard" slogan. I played at event where we had 2 CJDs and I took my 2x SC5000. DJ after me was stressed as Pioneer couldn't read his USB stick. I asked him to use my Denon players. Worked out of the box, analyzed files on the go and he didn't have any problems that this is not club standard.

[@DJPhilHarris]

Very interesting! Nice feedback!

[@maciekciach812]

​@@DJPhilHarris No problem Phil. One more thing - if you are a mobile DJ think about the possibilities that Denon setup gives you together with SoundSwitch for your lightning. Thank you for your channel and content you make, my DJ journey started with your tutorials !

[@mojavisanz597]

I’m my opinion with Denon you get more bang for your Buck. They are more feature rich and will last you for a long time. Pre-Corvind Pioneer was the club standard and what is in most higher end clubs. Phil approach this like the pro you are. If you do buy the Pioneer and are not satisfied. Keep it to yourself so you don’t get on any blacklist. You have to think about you what is best for your pocket and your lifestyle.

[@DJPhilHarris]

Yes true. I am tempted at this point I get both decks and test then side by side

[@DJPhilHarris]

OK what do you think? Nexus or Denon? VOTE BELOW!

[@DJPhilHarris]

LIKE FOR NEXUS

[@DJPhilHarris]

LIKE FOR DENON

[@joshua.hasselblatt]

@@DJPhilHarris nexus but with the DJM S11

[@resistantemotions5893]

Denon for sure, u can buy two player and play four decks, and that's it 🤷🏻‍♂️ Why you are thinking about it... Price = cheaper Functions = better Design = Better So don't think longer about it take the denon player

[@DJOHHMYY]

Nexus with a s11 is the ideal setup to have everything that you need in order to pull out insane routines

[@dj-peterofficial2753]

As a pro DJ, started back in 1985, who have only been using hardware, as in never controller/laptop, I can give you my reasons and opinion. I stick to Pioneer, because in the end it's what I know, trust and rely on. I've been a Pioneer DJ gear user since the very beginning in 1994/95, and I've never encountered a failure, not once. Neither on my own gear, club installations or on events where rentals are in place. I do around 200 gigs a year under normal circumstances, so there you have my perspective and really the most important reasons. But, I'm also a computer tech guy and love new tech in general, so I got the Denon Prime 4, just because of the fantastic reviews it got, but to my disappointment that was probably the worst experience of my life, mainly because Denon's gear are pure software based and are much more like using a controller/laptop solution, which is another world for me. Software mode on the Prime 4 means no hardware effect, so any external gear you connect, will NOT have access to effects, as it's only for the internal players. NOT what I expected on a $2000 all in one unit. Lacking features I depend on, like CDJ mode and setting cue points in addition to hot cues. No CDJ mode means that I can't set accurate cue points on the fly, as vinyl mode really don't even come close, and I have no interest in setting cue points in advance hoping they will be where I need them to be when I need them. Talking 1000's of tracks here. I want to be free to play however two songs fit in the moment, because I'm in control. The jog wheels! The ones on Denon are BIG & HEAVY pieces of solid metal and spin for an eternity, so I get why they need pitch bend buttons. The feel of a mechanical Jog Wheel like on the Pioneer pro gear are vastly superior to those capacative ones, even for me who don't scratch and only use vinyl mode for effects, like spin backs, and then I switch back to CDJ mode. ...and that's when I play digital which is the main way I play, but as recent as in October last year I played 8 vinyl gigs, yeah, real vinyl, and I don't mind spinning that way on gear where it's the natural way to do it. Different gear, different expectations. About the WiFi, the onboard analysis, dual decks and Hot cue buttons. They all sound great, and for some DJ's they probably are, but not for me and not for most pro DJ's who truly engage in the gig they playing. * Preparations are done in advance, and I NEVER play music I don't know, unless it's a private party and then I can hook up my phone and play from Spotify, but that's happened ONCE in 35 years, when a wedding couple changed their dance last minute, hours into the night. On all private events I require the hosts to send me a list of their most wanted tracks, and the music they absolutely don't want me to play, and that's enough. * During the last 2 years, I've done +200 days on a 24 hour party cruiser, and guess what, on the see there's no internet what so ever, the same goes for true underground events, two or three stairs down. That's not gonna change in the time I'v got left as a DJ. * I've only been using 2 decks since I started, and only for fun, because I can, and when available at clubs, I use a third deck. Any pro DJ I know who really use 3/4 decks, require personal control over all of them, which you don't have controlling two tracks using one deck. The ONLY single reason I can think of, is that one deck quit, and you could survive the night with the deck you have left. I have a third deck available in case that would happen. * Hot Cue buttons are placed where they should be on the CDJ-3000's, for many reasons. First, I as many others, often rest the side of my hand on the side of the jog wheel when pitching. Second, buttons should always have one function only. Third, the placement of anything below the jog wheel are at risk of drink spill from idiot DJ's and and dancing VIP's in the booth. It's 90% risk that precisely that area will be affected. It's bad enough to have to open up a player to quick fix a stuck/sticky cue/play/pause button or the pitch fader, but a whole pad section???? Not gonna happen. That's the difference between personal gear you care about, and club installations no one cares about. Real world truths, unfortunately. The CDJ-3000 also have the Hot Cue buttons placed under the wave form in a way that the position of the Cue point are positioned over the actual button you will use to execute each Hot cue. Time to end this very long post :) . The overall intuitivity and familiarity between models and generations within the Pioneer family of DJ gear is unmatched. If you learn on one modell, you can play on any. There won't be any surprises and you won't need a manual or KZbin to find out how a player, or mixer, works. Ask any Denon fan how to switch to horizontal wave forms on the Prime 4, and how they found out :) . 2 last things. Price or cost. Everyone knows the price, but only pro's seems to bother about the cost, and with the used value of Pioneer gear, Pioneer pro gear probably have the lowest cost of all brands. Longevity: My NXS2 setup, after 4 years it still looks and works like brand new, and I still have CDJ-500's CDJ-500s's, CDJ-1000Mk3's and Pioneer mixers from every generation still working just perfect. I have several recent videos on my channel showing me playing sets on them. That's all about fun and sentimental value, but the fact I can do it is priceless to me, because it brings out years of good and fun memories. You asked for it, there you have it. Cheers!

[@DJPhilHarris]

Really good feedback. I was almost completely made up about the Denons. But then I read this and think it almost always comes back to the industry standard which is what drew me to them in the first place. I want to own the most popular dj decks in the world and that isn’t going to change any time soon

[@dj-peterofficial2753]

@@DJPhilHarris Well, time is all I have for he moment, and if I can provide a personal perspective and info to a colleague to make a well informed decision before spending an arm and a leg, it's time well spend. I wish you good luck and I'm pretty sure you'll be satisfied with the choice you make. If the gear suites you, both the Denon and the Pioneer setups are at the forefront of what you can get. It's more about finding out the cons and pros and weigh them against your own preferences. Tech specs are easy to list, but the other stuff like intuitiveness, feel of the buttons and jog wheels, personal workflow and things like that is hard to measure. For me the Pioneer workflow is on point, and gives me so much more choices of how and on which gear I can use my music. The number of existing devices compatible within the Pioneer eko system, including laptops with software, players, mixers, external effects, DJ samplers, external pad controllers (also working with CDJ's) and Rekordbox DJ. And, everything can be used via Link and USB to integrate with each other, giving a DJ options no other brand can do. Please make a video of whatever you new setup looks like when you have it. Perhaps an unboxing event :) .

[@DJTajhay]

I would go for the pioneer setup

[@DJPhilHarris]

Why?

[@DJTajhay]

@@DJPhilHarris i just think pioneer will continue to be the standard

[@joekellythompson7518]

It's so difficult to disregard the cost and industry standard - anything less than Technics 1210s and you would be disappointed (in old money). So based strictly on build quality and features Denon have to be edging it. Worst case scenario upgrade to Pioneer, the Denons will be an easier re-sell.

[@mardyj]

I'd go denon decks, but maybe a pioneer, rane, or allen & heath mixer

[@DJPhilHarris]

Yes if I go the denon route I would deffo get the pioneer mixer

[@tommysentertainments1771]

I personally think you should go with either yes they are club standard the DDJ 1000 or the 1000 SRT they are just as good. They're not CDJs but they're just as good, but If you have an unlimited price range get the pionewe CDJ 3000

[@DJPhilHarris]

Well I already have very similar dj decks to those

[@tommysentertainments1771]

@@DJPhilHarris ahh yes the sx2 is a great controller I managed to have a play on a friends pair of 3000s they're fantastic but like you mentioned in your video very expensive it would be awesome for you to get those as you can teach people on club gear that's how I learnt. So that when the first ever step into a club DJ booth they have a decent knowledge of how it all works and how to use it well. Also as much as the denon gear it's not really industry standard pioneer I think will just always be the industry standard gear

[@DJPhilHarris]

I agree, I fear they will always be the club standard. Therefore that would be a great reason to get them

[@tommysentertainments1771]

@@DJPhilHarris yes I do think they will be but I must admit denon is starting to become more popular. I had a chance to try out the prime 4 and i must admit it's better than any of pioneers stand alone gear.

[@jasonlegister2277]

Hard to make a comment without thinking about the money, but it is what it is so the Pioneer, because of the mixer.

[@DJPhilHarris]

You could get the pioneer mixer with the denons

[@toddvincent3290]

Pioneer great product,but geared towards Clubs rental touring companies! Denon built well and way ahead of the game and affordable! If your a pro you should be able to walk in any both and work! Only issue I have with Denon is the software wish it could do more in the music management area! Finally I been using both systems Home I have Denon Prime setup and club gigs and elsewhere Pioneer no issues either way🙂

[@caelanrafferty2730]

would you consider an allen and heath mixer such as the classic xone 92 or the newer 96

[@DJPhilHarris]

To be honest, they are not on my radar

[@DJMarke]

BAck in the 90's when I was club DJ. Denon 2000F was the standard back then in Dual CD mixers and was heads and shoulders above anything else on the market. In saying that every club I worked in had a different mixer so there was always the small learning curve to get over. The only standard was Pioneer 1200 turntables which in most clubs had 4. Knowing that you would always have them gave you the confidence that no matter the mixer you had some familiarity. So saying that Denon have been in the CDJ space a lot longer, so does longevity and experience count for anything?

[@DJPhilHarris]

Yeah good point

[@architbisht6848]

i would go for denon as denon controller ar more fun for mixing and porformance pad are like controller and i think controller user should go with denon.at the end i have a question for all can we use pioneer mixer and denon cdj?

[@kashyaptrivedi8716]

I think pioneer is the best. It's club standard and if you are a professional dj than you have to have that..😎😎😎

[@m-stat9]

Nonsense argument. Professionals can use Denon gear just fine likewise, don't worry. That 'club standard' marketing standard is getting more and more obsolte.

[@TheGreatKyrillos]

dang lol, and I'm just here looking at upgrading to the DDJ-1000 from my 400 :D Idk Phil, follow your heart. but being able to scroll through the song that's currently playing does sound badass. I'm only used to 2 decks so that's actually one of the reasons i was looking to upgrade to four, so i can load the current track to 3 or 4 and scroll through if i needed to xD

[@hhaarmann]

Hi Phil, I have been thinking about the same things. Why not get the Denon SC6000 players with a pioneer 900nxs2 mixer? I know that some features wil not work but the current mixer x1850 is not up to par with the dim-900nxs2. Maybe wait to see if Denon announces anything at nam 2021?

[@DJPhilHarris]

Oh really, what features will not work?

[@hhaarmann]

The beat grid info is not being send to the mixer. So you depend on the mixer detecting the bpm itself. Maybe you have to get used to this

[@Joe1_23_45]

Get a ddj 1000, have basically club gear at half the price of the denons again? And most of the benefits of the denons (cue/performance pads, streaming and so on)?

[@djdeznyc]

He clearly stated he wanted some cdjs not another comtroller

[@DJPhilHarris]

Yeah the thing is I wanted to make the jump up to pro level controller. I already have dj decks that are very similar to those.

[@DJPhilHarris]

I know that might seem illogical

[@ruk2023--]

@@DJPhilHarris The DDJ1000 has mechanical platters straight off the CDJ range. I bought the DDJ-800 because I knew I would be getting a "pro" setup fairly soon after but the DDJ-1000 feels identical to the CDJ range and not like a controller at all due to the platters.