The Hidden Secrets Of Cedar Point

[@yanglin3919]

There is another Easter egg in Cedar Point that might be pretty well known, but interesting nontheless: the track of Valravn will spell out "Ohio" if you stand at Matterhorn and look towards the gondola lift station. Also, if you ever wonder why sometimes there's a burning smell in the park, that's because their CP&LE Railroad trains still run on coal.

[@waddles6139]

Explain why it smells like weed half the time I go why tf are there so many hippies there smoking weed

[@Mojo-pl3oj]

@@waddles6139 I would imagine that riding a rollercoaster while buzzed probably feels pretty good. However I wouldn’t know since I don’t smoke.

[@ppipowerclass]

It doesn't say Ohio. Tony Clark has very publicly said that people have been making that up since it was put in.

[@theheardtheorem]

@@ppipowerclass All you have to do is look up the pictures. It definitely spells “Ohio”. It’s more than likely just a coincidence because all you really need are a combination of any 2 loops, Immelmanns or wave turns with two near vertical drops in between from the right angle to spell Ohio. I would bet there is likely a couple of other coasters in the world that look like they say Ohio from certain angles.

[@ericjohn8466]

@@waddles6139 lol I'd rather deal w weed smoking hippies, actually id join em. Better than drunk assholes.

[@JustinOhio]

I used to work security at Battery Park & Marina and I would be there almost every night, all night, walking the docks with all of the nice and expensive yachts there. The pier is right behind them and every night I would walk out onto it to watch their closing fireworks ceremony. It was an awesome sight and a really fun time in my life. I'll never forget it!

[@lbabytutorials4852]

My dad brought me to Cedar point when I was 12 he would always pull out the Cedar Point VHS tape & have my brother watch it over & over trying to get us excited for the park. We flew out there from Miami Fl and I was to scared to ride anything leaving my dad riding the rides alone, this was almost 20 years ago I remember the Millennium force being pretty much brand new if I can remember correctly. Now I’m a HUGE coaster fan. I invited my dad to go back to Cedar Point that id pay for everything & he said now that he’s 70 he can’t anymore. What id do to go back and enjoy these rides with him! Quality over quaintly Cedar Point is a first class coaster park and worth every penny

[@CRAIGCAS10]

The forward pass was perfected on the Cedar Point beach by Knute Rockne and Gus Dorais (who were lifeguards) while playing college football for Norte Dame.

[@PhoenixTTD]

Yeah and there is a Knute Rockne plaque like the Toomer and Keller ones

[@saundrahuff5870]

One of the things I love about this place is how the treat you when you finally make the height requirement, they share that with everyone. They cheer you all the way to the ride.

[@davidhill2677]

When I was five I was exactly 48” and allowed on everything…except the Jumbo Jet which required 60”. By the time I reached that height, the Jumbo Jet was gone. 😢

[@EastCoasters]

Loved walking into Melt and seeing all that stuff. So nostalgic, and that outhouse is seriously one of my favorite things about cedar point. Well done Nick 🥃

[@DopeAsThePope1]

I remember the 2nd Skyride/Skylift over Frontiertown well. I actually enjoyed it even moreso than the one over the midway. It was more peaceful to go over the wooded area and water. I believe in was removed in 1987 to make room for The Iron Dragon.

[@davidhill2677]

Yes, and it was much longer than the lift on the midway. I noted that Cedar Point’s museum is in the old station house.

[@MeMyselfAndUs903]

The sky ride ended where the museum is now, I believe.

[@hugegarrett2577]

Something that is very hidden that I noticed is if you are on the train going past the millennium and look closely there is an old wild cat car under the millennium lift hill

[@markvolpe2305]

There's also one at the former rides graveyard that's displayed for Halloween.

[@davidhill2677]

I’ve been attending at Cedar Point since 1967 when I was five years old. Blue Streak was the “big” roller coaster then. I predate Frontier Town and one attraction which went away was the horse drawn stagecoach. One could ride inside or on top. I mention this here because I have tried to find reference to this attraction in the museum which is inside that old sky lift station. It’s not there and is worth remembering.

[@ginog5037]

Still miss the second gondola lift as well as the back enterence. Another great video, much appreciated...

[@dindog22]

I'm so old I've actually ridden the Frontier Lift

[@gasimoos3105]

I wish the lifts were still in functional use, it may be impractical but I think it would would have added a small yet memorable experience

[@toddhensley880]

Me too 🤣

[@martycrites9255]

In 1968 before the frontier trail was completed you had to take the train or the frontier lift...i miss the shortcut and the ride...

[@DopeAsThePope1]

Me too!

[@blainebasil6577]

The area back by where sandcastle suites used to be is such a hidden gem sure there’s nothing to do but it’s a nice to place to relax

[@markvolpe2305]

I just went to the park this past friday (haven't been there since 2003) and while I was standing in line for maverick (my new favorite ride) you could also see part of the concrete trough coming out from under the queue by the stairs. I didn't ride the flume back in 2003, but I remember it being there.

[@Cyb3rSynaps3]

If you’d like some other inside information from a former employee let me know! I’d love to get in contact and give some information about the park, it’s secrets, and what it was like working there.

[@history_leisure]

I never went inside Melt and Backbeat when I worked at the park, but I pretty much knew about the rest, some I thought were more well known about by most enthusiasts who've ever been and seen seen vlogs from the park

[@LilThoosie]

Really surprised you forgot to mention it... thought this would be in the video. If you go to the millie force entrance spin around in a circle 7 times then close your eyes for 5 minutes and 13 seconds a RMC giga appears

[@allieg.5143]

True story, not clickbait, it was a hot pink T. Rex model

[@TechMan1900]

That small concrete waterfall in Maverick’s que is actually a segment of the flume from Whitewater Landing

[@Mr._Mints]

*queue

[@hughcorrigan3265]

Yes, the bathroom located by Skyhawk was originally the station for the Frontier Lift. The other station was located approximately either were the Iron Dragon station now sits or where the entertainment stage currently sits , not the Top Thrill Dragster station. In fact part of the lagoon was filled in to build Top Thrill Dragster.

[@timothykaczmarek5871]

That is correct. That location is approximately where the Midway Frontier Lift station was. Also, the Western Cruise and the Monster shared that space as well.

[@restlessbohemian26]

Thanks for the correction - that was cringy lol.

[@woodencoasterfan]

There is a metal statue of Mercury by Valravn and there are also two metal urns in the main midway that are well over 100 years old. They were bought by George A Boeckling at the St Louis Worlds fair near the turn of the century. There were many other metal statues and urns in the park but they had to be sold off during WW2 to keep the park open.

[@deefrash9806]

I will have to check out Melt next time I am there. I'd love to see all that memorabilia and I was surprised you didn't mention the cool museum that is located close to the bathrroms that used to be where one of the sky rides ran out of (Btw, I was there when they were still in operation, many, many moons ago) Thanks for the other stuff too and I think it would be so strange to walk around the park with snow on the ground.

[@ZPierce767676]

Love the battery park reference one of my favorite spots.

[@TimStradtman]

Two little additions - The outhouse actually has a function. There is a large power transformer inside. I saw it during Winter ChillOut after they took out the sketch studio that was there. And supposedly the tapes in BBQ have a few non-existent bands like the Tony Clark Five, similar to the way the Halloweekend tombstones have names of employees.

[@CoasterLoverJackie]

Thank you for sharing this! Great video...

[@ToadenK]

the ride height signs were amazing. I loved how they used different characters for all the rides. The wood shop now sells little ones for people like me that grew up with the old signs.

[@darincampbell171]

I just know that DEF LEPPARD’S name has got to be on that Rock&Roll Hall of Fame tribute! I mention this because they are my all-time favorite band. They were inducted just a few years back! They deserved it! Thanks for your video! Peace.

[@blainebasil6577]

A hidden secret I love is where sandcastle suites used to be it’s not used anymore and a super cool place to go relax and it brings back so many memories for me I used to stay at that hotel

[@sigsin1]

When I worked there, Gemini was new. The area of the park was cleared by a tornado. The story is that the top of the train station in Frontier Town dropped on top of a visitor and he just walked out of the window and wasn’t hurt. I don’t know if the train is there anymore. Also, there was a bridge in Frontier Town that went over the “river.” They told very everyone that Jaws lived in the water. 🙄 “He’s huge.” I worked near the beach where the aquarium used to be. It was freezing until summer hit. My friend worked next door at the French fry place and when it got hot outside, they made them take two salt pills every day to keep them from fainting.

[@heatherfeather4]

We love that outhouse! Makes us laugh every time!

[@daniellilly7591]

I didn't know about the Rock & Roll HoF names at Back Beat Que! One significant thing you missed was the historical marker noting where Knute Rockne (of Notre Dame football fame) invented a brand new play called "The Forward Pass". It's stunning simply because it shows how long CP has been around...that a FORWARD PASS....in FOOTBALL...was considered revolutionary. Also, just a small thing, you misspelled Frontiertown twice. "I" before "E", except after "C"....

[@timothykaczmarek5871]

Yeah, that spelling of Frontier drove me crazy!!

[@deitz420]

Not to your weird, foreign neighbor 😜

[@toddhensley880]

We went at least once a year to Damon’s for BBQ ribs at Battery Park. I miss that. ☹️

[@thenuclearmallard2703]

The best secrets are the reverse uno cards left on the trusses of Steel Vengeance. They probably blew away by now. There was a red and yellow one. 🤔

[@xxbobsetsfirexx4269]

There's the plaque to comemorate Knute Rockne inventing the freaking forward pass on the beach.. Also the pagoda gift shop is the old station for one of the really old coasters .like scenic railway or leap the dips or something..the pirate ship during Halloween ends used sit out front of the pirate ride..( I think I could be wrong about that one.) And of course the mystery of where to get steak or shrimp screwers in Frontier town. Also a great vegan food stand with a great variety next to the Mill.

[@donnapatten285]

i rode that lift many times in my younger days-it was the best out there in the trees

[@spentron1]

Saw the tapes at Backbeat but didn't know what the pattern was. Incidently their smoked chicken and mac&cheese are incredible. The sweet muffin is a fitting dessert (and are hot enough to melt butter, KD).

[@TD-bq5bo]

I'm not so sure he was correct about the RnR HOF tapes.. I noticed an Iron Maiden tape on the wall and they are not in the hall.

[@vanseventy]

Do they still have the little museum across from the Gemini? If you ever have gone up on the second floor of the game room,those buildings were big dancehalls when they first began and the chandeliers are enormous. I wonder if they are still there? Last time I saw that was in 87.

[@abinormal1410]

I worked there right outta high school. It was a great place to work. I had a lot of fun.

[@jasonebeling6347]

I really liked it!!)

[@amusement420]

Fun video. Besides Melt, Miskeets restaurant in Frontier Town has old CP Signage on the walls. BBQue can add Willie Nelson to the cassettes 2023 Rock HoF inductee! How many young people know those are meant to look like cassette tapes (or what a cassette tape is). There's a plaque on the boardwalk by Breakers that acknowledges Knute Rockne of Notre Dame football fame was a lifeguard at CP and helped (didn't invent) the forward pass on the beach. Charles “Gus” Dorais another lifeguard passed to Rockne running routes. They used it to great affect to upset Army in 1913 (changing college football forever). He also met his wife when they worked at CP. Woodcarver Paul on Frontier Trail used to be a Cedar Point accountant. (He still does income taxes). He can also tell a lot of stories.

[@cedarpointenthusiast]

Also if you really stare at the wall at backbeatque, you can find some Easter eggs: One of the cassette tapes says “Pete Possum And The Polecat Pickers”, That is a reference to the traveling band scene in boneville. Another one is a white tape with the band “Tesla” on it referencing the car brand. The T is even the Tesla logo.

[@robertpolk9910]

Tesla is a rock band that has been around since the mid 80’s and was named after the inventor Nikola Tesla. Their biggest album was called The Great Radio Controversy because Tesla actually invented the radio, not Marconi. The car company is also named after the inventor Tesla.

[@cedarpointenthusiast]

@@robertpolk9910 that’s actually really interesting! i never knew that, thank you!

[@blainebasil6577]

Forbidden frontier and the other hidden secret is the land where sandcastle suites used to be everybody seems to forget about that a perfect place to go out and relax just have to go walk all the way out there

[@craig4451]

Was better when they had Earthquake ride, the Funhouse, back in the 70's was much more fun.

[@christineelmore5923]

Melt does that sort of thing at all of its locations - they tailor the decor to fit the town/area

[@enfynet]

Gemini was the tallest when it was announced, but not by the time it opened

[@thehyliansniper1713]

The only one of these I've found myself was the outhouse in Frontier Town. As we were walking by, All Star began playing and I wanted to see if we had the chance to make a fitting video so I tried opening it.

[@acefrost1535]

can u make one of these on kings island please:) thanks mr. flags

[@donaldplatfoot1203]

One secret was Cedar Point and Kings Island used to battle each other for record-breaking rides. It was great. But since Cedar Fair purchase KI they will not let this happen. It's to bad. Because it was that competition between the parks that made both great.

[@ValleyThrills]

Surprised you didn’t mention Albert (the steam locomotive on display by Millennium Force). Albert was one of the first steam locomotives to run on the CP&LE Railroad along with Maud L (which now runs at Disneyland as Ward Kimball).

[@sandraweilbrenner67]

Cool list

[@binks2413]

Disaster Transport was cool

[@brianleach6813]

My kids love the outhouse. They think it's hysterical. I was wondering what was with the cassette tapes a back beat.

[@champagne_papiiii]

No dislikes bc of how awesome this vid is 👏 👏 👏

[@danmurphy9173]

Great video! Love the Easter Eggs and Toomer history (never knew!!). BUT, Cleveland was indeed NOT the birthplace of Rock and Roll. It was the place where much 1940s R&B / 1950s Rock N Roll music was ultimately promoted and played on the radio (often in exchange for money, i.e. payola), as was the case in other cities, by such on-air celebrities as Alan Freed who helped popularize the term “Rock N Roll” in CLE. For sure Cleveland helped feed the frenzy around Rock N Roll, but it is essentially derived from (and in early example identical to) New Orleans R&B music that had been around since the early 40s for sure. Cleveland was “helping” this style 10-15 years after that. Now if you ask me about where the idea for steel coaters came from, I would NOT know that, lol.

[@BeachcliffStudios]

Well we also had the first ever rock and roll concert. Many artists give Cleveland the credit for getting them on the map. We 100% deserve to be called the rock and roll capital.

[@ethanmeyers195]

This is like Disney adult with the hidden mickeys

[@joshrodeheaver5239]

Valravyn, when viewed from under the Corkscrew “corkscrews” spells “Ohio.”

[@ThrillSeekersandHellRaisers]

I didnt know that about backbeat, I thoght it was popular artists. When I was waiting i played the can i guess the album game.

[@janmcguire5268]

Cool!

[@HoneyLee75]

This is a great video. Thank you for sharing. You spelled frontier wrong through out the video.

[@bclayll]

go to haunted weekend it’s so fun it’s really cool

[@bamsportscollectibles2185]

Frontier life was taken out when iron dragon was installed. The lift was their. Not where dragster is

[@ToadenK]

Ever do a video about Paul at the wood shop?

[@tackett178]

Did you know Knute Rockne invented the forward pass for football on the beach there is a big sign on the beach❤

[@nicholascrawford8823]

I love cedar point too

[@katieandkevinsears7724]

I pull the outhouse door every time I visit.

[@mikebarker5783]

Special Melt? Like the prices are twice as much?

[@joeskis]

Here's some others. You will be in a coaster line that stops and must wait for maintenance. You might be in a line when a coaster gets stuck. The chances of delays due to weather is more likely at CP than any other park. This includes merely being windy. Most of their coasters shut down at wind speeds of 30mph at 200ft. Good luck finding a wind forecast for that height.

[@jodielchapman2190]

Wish could go back to Cedar Point take my hubbie and teens and show them where i work and live at CP but it is what it is!!!😉

[@justawhiteguywitharocketla590]

I wish I didn't live 2 hours from this place and I might honestly buy a house near cedar point just because of how much I love it

[@mcthrills1]

I love cps Melt

[@someloser2847]

I was expecting a full working bathroom inside the outhouse lol

[@LuftWaffle2023]

Should have started the video like, Hello internet, welcome to coaster theory

[@davidmcaninch4714]

Do you believe that Dragster will reopen? I have my doubts that it will.

[@thrillrides1012]

I live in Sandusky Ohio I go to battery park all the time

[@CALIGIRL702]

At Kings dominion we have a Moon Tree!

[@noragami_1856]

melt bar grill has some good ass food

[@crowmigration8245]

Wait, how is this open in winter? You'd freeze to death on the coasters

[@mrednblack6]

Look up winter chill out.

[@jdawg9137]

Mystic Timbers just south at Kings Island will be operating soon for the winter.

[@kevdogcle9955]

I love cedar point to. I worked Thier fir several years. And do you know that on hollow weekends in the front of the park. The cemetery that they do for the scary nights of holloween. All of the cemetary tombstone's names. They have all the rides that where removed from the park the date they were built and the date they where removed. Because of old age or lost popularity. And cedar point removed or scraped them rides.

[@superklondoentertainmentsy4061]

yay😄

[@nickolasawarner]

Bro, good content but I want to buy you a better camera.

[@joyabbott2351]

Does anyone know of any famous people who have been to the park? Actors? Singers? Presidents?

[@saundrahuff5870]

I have yet to pick a day to go there where it hasn’t rained on us. It doesn’t stop any of us. We stay. We just stay wet, also

[@Youngstown529]

None of these are really "secrets" - many are very well known in fact.

[@stevenmorrison4692]

I'd prefer mid 90's Cedar Point over anything nowadays.

[@joshmammen7412]

Give me a reason to eat at the melt and and the rock and roll hall of fame restaurant.

[@xxbobsetsfirexx4269]

The decore is amazing. The food is crazy big ass stuffed grilled cheese things all different kinds of varietys..burgers meatballs chicken..plus a great selection of beers..it's pretty reasonable for being in the park.. The owner is a Cleveland band dude and they are as a company an asset to Cleveland..

[@kingcorgi7509]

what about the secret of millies green train

[@dindog22]

there's a secret green train?

[@kingcorgi7509]

@@dindog22 there was but if derailed during one of its first test runs

[@kingcorgi7509]

@@dindog22 just to be clear this isn’t true this is a inside joke

[@enfynet]

Frontiertown **

[@nolinnellz3499]

I’ve eaten in the melt at CP

[@Paolo8772]

Cool video. Cedar Point Rocks! But the birthplace of Rock'n Roll is Memphis, not Cleveland. LOL!

[@xxbobsetsfirexx4269]

Undisputed of course... But the term came from here and also the first coined " Rock Concert."..and we have nothing else but Cedar Point..which we split with Detroit and the whole world.😂 We also have to share Superman and Wright Brothers.. You guys have the best music, bbq, and pro wrestling.. Let us have our crap museum.😂

[@Paolo8772]

@@xxbobsetsfirexx4269 I don't come from Memphis.

[@adenipnipmc]

Another one if you look at Valravn closely its says Ohio,Emellman-O,1st and 2nd drop-h,airtime hill-I,and Dive loop-O spells out Ohio

[@HughWanztino]

someone tell this man how to spell "frontier"

[@4FUNFAX]

Ahhhh batery park.. possibly the most scenic place to be robbed or asaulted in N.E ohio lmao

[@OrangeYoshiZ2-bz3hs]

I am pretty sure that the out house is from shrek

[@maaztapal7191]

7th XD

[@predefined8118]

mmm yecider im point i ng to ye /

[@dawgcoasters]

First

[@isaacmartini8120]

Ngl cedar point operators really suck