Fallkniven S1 or Bark River Bravo 1?

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Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors

Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors

Күн бұрын

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@dash8465
@dash8465 5 жыл бұрын
There are a number of issues with this comparison.. First, the regular Bravo 1 is notably thicker than this LT on which many critiques in favor of the S1 were based. The handle on the S1 would never in my mind be considered more robust or durable than the Bravo's G10 or micarta... the S1's plastic is very vulnerable to heat and abrasion, and will not fare well being wacked upon. It's injection molded plastic, so... you get what you and you're stuck with it. Contrary to the commentary, G10 will be entirely unfazed by a baton, probably same for micarta... and BR will replace your handle in a couple weeks if you ever manage to mess it up. The false edge on the S1 solidly defeats its "survival" persona, it makes batoning more difficult, it cuts into the baton and that does two things; it robs you of solid hit energy transfer, and it chews up and softens your baton. The false edge also thins away the majority of the spine that strengthens the tip, and thats a notable flaw in combination with its 100% exposed/unsupported vg10 tip.. its downright puny weak compared to the Bravo 1 tip in 3v. There are several youtubers who have footage of Fallkniven tips breaking off. Lastly, the false edge weakens the entire front half, and that requires the steeper scandi'ish grind that results in a thicker edge and it simply does not slice as well as the Bravo. I like the exposed pommel on the S1, but the Bravo is readily available in S30vn with a exposed pommel lanyard thing (kinda cool looking too). I own a Bravo (G10/3V) and owned a S1 and A1.. In short, the S1 is more of a military/combat/stabber.. the Bravo is more of a *knife* , a true cutter, a proper do-all bush, camp, hunting, kitchen or soldier's tool that easily adaps to any reasonable task and will hold its edge longer doing it. Nowadays.. all Fallknivens have become over-priced. btw.. my Bravo came with a greatly improved leather sheath. Be sure to pass on any "water proofing" option when buying from knivesshipfree or DLT and instead water form it properly, then water proof it yourself. If you must avoid the Bark River, or simply like the looks/feel of the S1 better, or live where the temps drop way low and you dont want a sub-zero knife freezing your digits off, then I highly recommend you consider the SRK in 3V... for $127 off Amazon its a absolute steal the covers most all of the S1's bases with a better steel with a nice stonewash and a weee bit longer blade matched with a shorter false edge which combins to make it a fantastic do-all option. (despite various stock photos, the 3v absolutely does come with a short 1/4" 5mm ricasso in front of the finger guard, not the big ricasso shown in photos.)
@Wastelander13
@Wastelander13 4 жыл бұрын
Dash I bought a Fallkniven S1 and its my number ONE now. I dont use my Bravo 1 anymore and plan to sell it! I even regret that I ever bought that overpriced thing, I let myself be fooled by the Recon unit story that is told about the Bark River Bravo 1! And about overpriced, I get a Fallkniven S1 for 180 euros while a Bark River Bravo 1 in A2 is over 250 euros in its basis version...
@czed7515
@czed7515 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have both and like the fallknivens much better. They just work well.
@joemacch6284
@joemacch6284 7 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of VG10 on outdoor knives. Even if it’s laminated. Better for kitchen or cutlery knives. The Bark River and the company behind it are excellent. I’m now ordering another Bark River with a custom kydex sheath.
@thomash5239
@thomash5239 6 жыл бұрын
The S1 Pro uses COS steel, even better than VG10 and competitive with steels like CPM3V. I think the length of the Bravo 1.25/1.25LT is better than the Bravo 1/1LT. In my limited view, Fallkniven knives are the king of very cold weather locations and Bark River knives are the king of every other location.
@valdurr1509
@valdurr1509 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100% A friend of mine had an S1. The tip broke off and it had severe chipping on the edge from use on wood only After major edge restoration he says he won't use it outdoors any longer.
@ernestdunn5232
@ernestdunn5232 10 ай бұрын
I have both knives, and both are great. I prefer the feel of the Bravo 1, but you can’t go wrong with either one.
@Knygathin
@Knygathin Жыл бұрын
I have a Bark River Bravo 3V steel. It has a convex blade, but for some reason the factory sharpened the last fraction of the outer edge angled instead of convex. I don't know why they did that, but I believe it makes the edge more brittle. I accidentally tapped the edge lightly on a rock surface, and two tiny chips came off.
@mrdarren1045
@mrdarren1045 6 жыл бұрын
The S1 isn't a kraton handle . It is thermorun which is somewhat harder.
@patbiggin644
@patbiggin644 7 жыл бұрын
Id go bark river all the way, you can literally shoot it with a cannon and get it replaced.
@Wastelander13
@Wastelander13 7 жыл бұрын
Then watch "All outdoor's"" destruction test of Bark River Bravo 1 and Falkniven A1...!
@patbiggin644
@patbiggin644 7 жыл бұрын
Dan Ney how would that alter the warranty bark river has?
@Wastelander13
@Wastelander13 7 жыл бұрын
Pat Biggin Please watch the videos! Concerning a survival knife, the best warranty means nothing if the knife fails in a survival situation! I dont care about any warranty because it means nothing! A Fallkniven wont break! I own a Bark River Bravo 1 and a Fallkniven Idun and I love both! Cheers! Now since few month I have the S1 VG10 and its my number ONE now. I dont use my Bravo 1 anymore.
@patbiggin644
@patbiggin644 7 жыл бұрын
LCO213 call them. Mike often answers the phone personally. Or join knife gods Facebook page and post the blade and ask for Mike. He'll take care of it no problem
@patbiggin644
@patbiggin644 4 жыл бұрын
@Jkris James I think it's just shipping.
@wayned5872
@wayned5872 7 жыл бұрын
Mora,Bark River,White River & BENCHMADE for me
@lukus000
@lukus000 7 жыл бұрын
Wish I could afford either of these knives!
@benbuchanan3233
@benbuchanan3233 5 жыл бұрын
LukUsTTV I just bought one for 15 usd
@farstrider79
@farstrider79 7 жыл бұрын
Never handled a Bark River. I sold my Fallkniven and bought an Ontario Blackbird and am happy with the trade. The handle fits me better and I prefer flat grinds. It's also much cheaper, but I think of equal quality.
@zetterberg
@zetterberg 7 жыл бұрын
Great choice. Like my (sk5 & sk4). Really like the textured g10 scales and finger choil. Awesome carving knives. Bravo looks slippery
@farstrider79
@farstrider79 7 жыл бұрын
I found that I had to make the edge bevel a little shallower to carve easily. Did you feel the same. Love the knife! The 154cm sharpens easily enough. Seems like it loses "razor sharp" quickly, but keeps a working edge for a long time.
@zetterberg
@zetterberg 7 жыл бұрын
Yea i find the 154 workable too ( easier than i had heard to get back after dulling) usually just a strop. The sk4 has a really robust tip that is awesome for getting the bowl started in a spoon, and eats wood in the early stages. Than switch out to a finer mora for finishing.
@Folma7
@Folma7 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin McCall The Blackbird SK5 is a very nice knife.
@Wastelander13
@Wastelander13 4 жыл бұрын
I recently bought the Fallkniven S1 in VG10. Its my number one now!, a really great knife!
@samthai818
@samthai818 2 жыл бұрын
Thai I just got the bark river Aurora and am not very impressed with it. The quality of the blade geometry is very sloppy and unfinished. Towards the tip on the left side of the blade there is a small area where there is excess metal where it is not convexed but a flat grind going to a micro bevel. The straight part of the blade is uneven and when you place the edge 90° to a flat surface you can see wavy light shining through. The straight edge portion has a blade geometry of up to 28° and the belly is pushing 35° or more. I wasted a few days going from stroping going to lower and lower grit stones trying to sharpen a brand new out of the box never used Aurora. Finally I saw a video from Virtuovice of completely reprofiling the Bark River blade due to bad geometry and since I had already scratched up the new blade, I went ahead and did a full sharpening and re-grinding of the Aurora. It worked! In addition the micarta handle on the left side just before the blade has a dull finish issue whereas the rest of the micarta has a gloss finish. My Fallknivens A1X and S1X with their thicker blades(7mm and 6mm respectively) had perfectly contoured edges and came perfect from the manufacturer. In fact a brief stroping of the Xs and it is crazy sharp. I wanted a Bravo 1.25 in CPM-3V, not so sure now.
@clintwalker2231
@clintwalker2231 2 жыл бұрын
I love the f1 so much I got the pro in both elmax and CoS. Amazing edge ability.
@banditgriot2000
@banditgriot2000 7 жыл бұрын
I don't like thumb ramps on my BRK except the Bravo Survivor. I don't have the wear you have shown on any of my sheaths and I have had the for a few years. A closer comparison would be with the rampless Bravo 1.25 with the standard thickness and grind. As always good review.
@Kman31ca
@Kman31ca 7 жыл бұрын
VG 10 does chip pretty bad. I used my F1 setting up some hunting blinds. While chopping some of these thick willow bushes I accidentally hit a couple rocks. Not to hard, I thought at worst it would maybe have a few dings in the edge. But when I looked at it, it was chipped horribly. I had to re profile the whole edge. I've hit rocks in the same way with other steels, and it would leave slight marks which came out quickly. But that VG 10 is decent steel. But far to brittle for being a survival knife in my opinion. And yes, I know rocks should be avoided at all cost with any knife. But for a knife that is basically famous for a survival knife for Swedish pilots. I'd choose a different steel.
@silverback4434
@silverback4434 5 ай бұрын
Who are the most robust between the 2 ?
@nicholasricardo8443
@nicholasricardo8443 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the BR Aurora compares to the S1, as the Aurora is often called Bark River's most versatile knife
@arig6891
@arig6891 4 жыл бұрын
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@whitegorillia117
@whitegorillia117 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a bark river bravo 1 in a2 and the fallkniven aswell. Both are excellent knives but any time I’m in the the woods for longer than two days I always take my work horse fallkniven all the way IMO.
@bjbuckley6108
@bjbuckley6108 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah live in ACT .thanks to you I have a knife shop that I didn't know about in my backyard lol.love your videos mate keep it up
@49giants3
@49giants3 7 жыл бұрын
Well my friend, because of your reviews and the advice of another friend who has a bravo1, I now have a bravo1 3v LT Thanks Pete. Keep being awesome Ps the hump on my knife does the same thing to the corner of my sheath. Go figure
@johnzane3977
@johnzane3977 6 жыл бұрын
I find the protruding pommel on my a1 js great for scraping to get tinder.
@kevm9724
@kevm9724 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo 1LT, rampless, 3V, black micarta, red liners,,,, Love it
@kalibmaxwell6394
@kalibmaxwell6394 7 жыл бұрын
Is that the barkriver bravo lt
@nmhvactech5474
@nmhvactech5474 2 жыл бұрын
I’m looking for a hunting knife, not a bush-crafter!! I need a knife for skinning and processing western big game. The majority of the time the animals have to broken down in quarters and packed out. What quality knife $50-$200 range do you recommend?? I don’t like huge knives. I’m tired of the folding knives like Buck 110. I want a smaller fixed blade, 4” or less, to break down & process game in the field. With a high quality steel that is sharpenable in the field, I like CM154 and S35.
@IamNemoN01
@IamNemoN01 5 жыл бұрын
Bark River have made knives that are closer in specs to the Falkniven. I can never understand why people compare two knives with completely different geometry and profiles. Other than both being knives, there is VERY LITTLE that’s the same so as to make a comparison. You may as well do a video comparing apples to oranges. They have completely different tastes and applications; but they’re both fruit.
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 5 жыл бұрын
still fun to compare them though. I never get people going out of their way to shoot folks down, so there ya go!
@IamNemoN01
@IamNemoN01 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, you’re right you know. Using logic is shooting people down. We’ll have none of that logic stuff round here! I’m looking forward to your video comparing apples and oranges - ‘cause that’s logical.
@samthai818
@samthai818 2 жыл бұрын
that's the wrong view. the two knives are different to be sure, as in all things. but the applications of each certianly overlaps. this video analyze the advantages of one over the other for uses enumerated. Cedric supports his arguments clearly and i would agree that it makes sense. Your views and experience may differ. But to discount a comparison wholely based on the fact that each knife is constructed and styled differently is not conducive to an entertaining and lively discussion of ideas and experiences.
@caseysimpson1806
@caseysimpson1806 4 жыл бұрын
I have an S1. First time out was on a snowy, back pack deer hunt in the forest. Used for camp shores and fire prep. Unfortunately, I did not take a deer. Very damp due to early, wet snow. Mine came with the dangler sheath and I wore it all of the time. Only took it off to sleep. Liked it so much I purchased an F1. I have no experience with Bark River knives but they look excellent. My critique of the Fallknivens-harder to sharpen than a Mora and a bit expensive. However, The F1 is a go to. Always in a pack.
@Bill-mw7sh
@Bill-mw7sh Жыл бұрын
I've owned A1 PRO and bravo 1.5... the aurora the gunny and other. Bark river is a step above fallkniven. Cos isn't 3v.
@Folma7
@Folma7 6 жыл бұрын
I went for the BR Bravo 1 with a Kydex sheath. I wanted a bit longer blade so the BR Bravo 1.25 is now my woods knife, though the TBS Boar is a close rival.
@paulie4x1
@paulie4x1 7 жыл бұрын
Say Heah Cedric, Watching this video again, I was reminded that because the way the Sheath's are on my Fallkniven A-1 and my H-1, I could carry both side by side, a lovely piece of kit. I usually like carrying this combo on some of my scout's when checking out new areas with perhaps a overnighter. The handles are maybe a bit warmer to use in cold and wet conditions. I went with the Fallkniven H-1 because it's similar to my 3V Skookum Bush Tool. The Bravo 1, I have (3) of them, one in A2 which is part of a 4Knife Set, all in A2 with Green Jade G-10 Handles. Ofcource I pick and choose from the set on which I ones I carry. I have the Woodland Special, Bravo 1, Bravo 2, and the Golok. My two Bravo 1's in 3V I like to team with my Himalayan Imports M-43's. I have (2) also, the larger one with the Black Buffalo Horn Handle is the one I usually like to team with my 3V, Black G-10 Handle Bravo 1. A great combo to take on a overnighter. The smaller one has a Cream Bone Handle with Tan Steaks and it's a 10" blade. I especially like this combo when I just add my Agawa Canyon 21 Boreal Saw., I Usually don't have to take a hatchet along because the Khukuri is a pretty good chopper. I usually don't use this set in snowy and wet conditions, but they do perform in any conditions with no problems. I guess I'm just like you, I luv both sets, but I do favor my Fallkniven's in wet and snowy conditions, but they also perform in all weather conditions. I feel safe using either or. Dilly Dilly.,,.p
@tindra98765
@tindra98765 6 жыл бұрын
is it any choices (really :) S1 (or even better S1 Pro ))))
@bjbuckley6108
@bjbuckley6108 7 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the Bark River from
@Folma7
@Folma7 6 жыл бұрын
Bj Buckley www.dlttrading.com or www.knivesshipfree.com. I’ve also seen a bunch on eBay.
@isaiah_b_3798
@isaiah_b_3798 11 ай бұрын
DLT trading or Knives Ship Free
@kevm9724
@kevm9724 2 жыл бұрын
Both great, I have a B1 LT magnacut, and an S1, if they were to fail my Garberg wont LOL
@bigvisk1125
@bigvisk1125 7 жыл бұрын
i think the bark river is far superior, especially when you consider price points. then i saw survival lily's take on the fallkniven and it reinforced my opinion. i was wondering if you had seen it and your thoughts. That said, for hunting, i prefer a thinner knife than even the LT. there mountain man is a great game processing knife.
@Wastelander13
@Wastelander13 7 жыл бұрын
I use Fällkniven since 15 years now and what Survival Lilly says about the S1 is just ridiculous bullshit!
@wtfmrb293
@wtfmrb293 7 жыл бұрын
big visk exactly. Lilly abuse the knife and goes look at this crap. Make no sense. Don't believe your eyes lol
@nickers1889
@nickers1889 7 жыл бұрын
mrblitzed she pounded it through wood into sand and rocks with a rock wth did she think would happen
@wtfmrb293
@wtfmrb293 7 жыл бұрын
Ya you could very easily put it like that. The steel can be brittle. But only cosmetics really. The tip going off. Is not catastrophic. You can fix a new tip. Chipping is not very catastrophic.(on the edge. Fallkniven will never brake. And it is very easy to resharpen. And a big plus for me. Rustresistence
@Wastelander13
@Wastelander13 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Im not sure her video is true! Who knows what she really did to the knife to make it look bad... Maybe she is upset against Fallkniven for any reason! I dont trust all youtubers cause you never know the story behind...
@jamesevans8748
@jamesevans8748 5 жыл бұрын
bark river 100%got the bark river bravo 1 lt in elmax love it. batoning on the Fallkniven s1 is gonna be horrible due to the false edge at the top of the knife trust me unless you have a plenty of sticks to use for batoning also the s1 has such a short spine for fire steels and if your worried about using the handle for a pamal find a rock lol.. the fallkniven s1 is lamanated steel which means its 2 steels glued together pretty much not such a good idea for survival when you have that bark river over there in one great big solid piece of cpm 3v which btw is tuff wayyyyyyy tuffer than v10 could ever think of.
@Wastelander13
@Wastelander13 4 жыл бұрын
james evans your amateur talk is just silly nonsense!
@Wastelander13
@Wastelander13 2 жыл бұрын
@@1800moonSugar 🤣🤣🤣 People on drugs or else shouldn't be allowed to make comments, Lol. I wonder what that guy smokes. 😄😄😄
@samthai818
@samthai818 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wastelander13 they add to entertainment and comedic value. I hope my A1X and S1X doesn't become unglued! Out of the box the Fallknivens are vastly superior.
@Badhorsie_1
@Badhorsie_1 Жыл бұрын
2 steels glued together. Please never comment on KZbin again.
@waldschnepfe9673
@waldschnepfe9673 7 жыл бұрын
The "shake test" of the sheath is nonsense. Nobody is shaking his 'ass' in the Woods. I have never heard any noise when I was using this Nylon sheath.
@SteveSmith-sd5hq
@SteveSmith-sd5hq 6 жыл бұрын
Uwe K. The only reason I go into the woods is to shake my ass in seclusion.
@seanb6986
@seanb6986 6 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that as well. The ass shaking community is growing every year
@thechugdude
@thechugdude 6 жыл бұрын
@@seanb6986 I hear Nikki Minaj chose Bark River due to no rattling.
@thomash5239
@thomash5239 6 жыл бұрын
I've never felt so close to God as when I was twerking in the forest.
@isaiah_b_3798
@isaiah_b_3798 11 ай бұрын
Obviously you've never seen the twerking bushcrafter in action.
@paultorgerson8776
@paultorgerson8776 3 жыл бұрын
No comparison. You should know better. Bark River hands down. I have no dog in the fight. BTW I own a Bravo One Field a 3V Gunny and two, yeah two Crusaders.
@johnheller5786
@johnheller5786 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid! As always. I actually own both,and I prefer my bravo one in cpm 3v. They are both great blades but something about the barkriver just works better for me. Plus the barkriver is tried and true as its issued to the marines recon teams. It was helped designed by a marine who's last name,and I shit you not is Bravo. Barkriver has a fantastic warranty, although you should never have to use it with knives of this caliber.
@greekveteran2715
@greekveteran2715 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but no knife is issued to any marines recon teams. Actually there isn't any knife that is issued to any part of any army. These are marketing tricks, that help to sell more knives, thus bring more money. I can name at least 5 knives, that the myth that they are issued knives, follows them. Most Soldiers world wide, carry Leathermans and or Victorinox SAKS. It's rare to see a soldiers carry a fixed blade and if he does, it's something practical with thin stock blades.
@johnheller5786
@johnheller5786 3 жыл бұрын
@@greekveteran2715 maybe not officially, but the knife was designed with input from a recon person whos last name is Bravo. Both airforce and navy has been issuing knife to pilots and flight crews.
@semco72057
@semco72057 5 жыл бұрын
They both look great and would be nice to have with you, but I would prefer to have a longer blade for survival, or tactical use.
@DarthPhallix
@DarthPhallix 2 жыл бұрын
“Tactical use…” Ha!
@postmano
@postmano 2 жыл бұрын
A1 Fall..
@91classicrock
@91classicrock 7 жыл бұрын
do you think that the fallkniven s1 would be a good survival knife if that was the only knife you had to rely on out in wilderness
@seanb6986
@seanb6986 6 жыл бұрын
Short answer: yes
@Wastelander13
@Wastelander13 4 жыл бұрын
YES! Most definitely! I own one!
@sosteve9113
@sosteve9113 7 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison
@bjbuckley6108
@bjbuckley6108 7 жыл бұрын
So handy I have a show room in canberra
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 7 жыл бұрын
Bj Buckley thats awesome! Youre in canberra? Mate definitely go and pick a Bark River for yourself - thats an awesome thing to be able to do. I had to go off video reviews. I sorta wanted a Kalahari 2 but was a bit nervous it would be weird so I went with the more safe Bravo 1
@hemip593
@hemip593 4 жыл бұрын
The Bravo 1.25 vs S1X would be a good comparison video.
@samthai818
@samthai818 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! but the X line was not available then. The bark River is $275-300+ at least in the US, the A1 is $175. The COS A1 is $275 making it the best comparison currently. I would go Fallkniven all the way in this comparison. This is based on my personal S1X and Aurora comparison.
@samthai818
@samthai818 2 жыл бұрын
correction: on my S1X and Aurora 3V comparison.
@gingebrien2408
@gingebrien2408 5 ай бұрын
Bravo all day, but needs a knew sheath.
@puma51921
@puma51921 6 жыл бұрын
Bravo1 or the LT version are great knives. Not even close in my eyes
@badeston
@badeston 7 жыл бұрын
The S1 handle is Thermorun, not Kraton :)
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 7 жыл бұрын
badeston oh snap I knew I was wrong on that one! I was trying not to say grivory heheh
@badeston
@badeston 7 жыл бұрын
You've just missed it by a thin margin, the A1 is Kraton actually! :D :D :D
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 7 жыл бұрын
badeston hahah who woulda thought it! they feel so similar!
@Beaverbush1969
@Beaverbush1969 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t like a fixed blade with no pins
@Tryambakam108
@Tryambakam108 6 жыл бұрын
Either way, the BR is much better. 3v is a far superior steel to VG-10 and the grind is better for most tasks. The sheath really isn't that important. I wouldn't trade the BR for two S1's.
@thomash5239
@thomash5239 6 жыл бұрын
COS is competitive with CPM3V though, which is what the Fallk pro series (S1 Pro) comes in.
@Wastelander13
@Wastelander13 4 жыл бұрын
Tryambakam108 I guess you talk but never owned a Fallkniven knife!
@Tryambakam108
@Tryambakam108 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wastelander13 Don't bet on your guesses homie.
@IlmarBeekman
@IlmarBeekman 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t care about enemy combatants or any of that crap but I really do get annoyed by a rattling sheath. For hunting is sucks and for just plain enjoying nature is really annoying on a hike. I love fallkniven knives but I hate their sheaths. Perhaps the x series fixed that though. Guess I’ll find out when I get myself one for Christmas lol.
@AR9ify
@AR9ify 3 жыл бұрын
You can put a small piece of perforated foam on the tip and push it to the bottom of the inside of the sheath. Rattling gone.
@Wastelander13
@Wastelander13 3 жыл бұрын
I own an S1 and there is nothing rattling in the field, that might only happen on table reviews. I also have a Bark River Bravo one and hate that sheath cause it doesnt hold the knife safely, especially not for " recon unit use" 🤔, I nearly lost it because in the bush the safety strap opend .
@dobypilgrim6160
@dobypilgrim6160 6 жыл бұрын
The Bark River knife, with the exception of that thumb ramp and the shallow convex grind, pretty much mimics my all time favorite hunting knife. That one is a 40 year old Sheffield made Charlton Ltd. in a beautiful pattern welded "Damascus". It is, I should nite, also a flat grund. A wonderful blade. Predates all the cheap Pakistani ""Damascus" out there now. The "ramp" on the Bark River seems totally useless to me. Without it, a very simple one-piece sheath would work fine, and be secure with no silly retaining strap. That is what I have. Almost looks like a Scandinavian sheath without the dangler...Good comarison. That ramp and the sheath would also cause me to choose the S1 over the Bark River. But fortunately, I have my trusty old Charlton. So I doubt I'll ever have to make that choice.
@willbrink
@willbrink Жыл бұрын
I have both, I'd choose BR all day.
@DavidChurcheese
@DavidChurcheese Жыл бұрын
I have both, and I would choose the Fallkniven all day all night. The sheath itself is a good reason to be pissed at Bark River. Fallkniven laminated steel is way more versatile than the Bark River. I guess it depends on your use. If you're a hunter, the Bravo 1 is probably better (rounder belly, etc.), but for survival (what the S1 has been made for), Fallkniven can't be beaten.
@bjbuckley6108
@bjbuckley6108 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@mrc2205
@mrc2205 2 жыл бұрын
I love both.
@howardgreen9718
@howardgreen9718 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks Pete
@tindra98765
@tindra98765 6 жыл бұрын
look at that bravo 1 after 4-6 months of batongien with hard wood ...good luck o mary christmas ]]
@tindra98765
@tindra98765 6 жыл бұрын
you know why, we Sweeds lives among ice bears and that stuff :)) (some thinks ))anyway, ...its only Hickory trees here in North Sweden (no its not...But we have Tree families who is hard as Rock :=) who even U never heard about .....Great channel...and thanks for good vids.
@Immortalized1
@Immortalized1 7 жыл бұрын
Fallkniven is the way to go. All day. Everyday
@Wastelander13
@Wastelander13 4 жыл бұрын
The Grouch Exactly!
@Onedayilbeok
@Onedayilbeok 7 жыл бұрын
why does everyone have Black Canvas Micarta or similar on their Barky handles I hate it, I love a good burl or kirinite myself but each to their own I guess
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 7 жыл бұрын
+Onedayilbeok im a clumsy knife user, and I knew I would proably baton a few times during review and have a probably irrational fear that anything but g10 or micarta will explode on contact! I know im probably totally wrong but that the truth behind my choices 😂
@wjhedgepeth71
@wjhedgepeth71 7 жыл бұрын
Basically I get them cause I line the color. Mircarta is pretty bomb proof in any color and it's recommended if you're going to abuse your knife. They happen to also be the cheapest knife handle option.
@DoomOfConviction
@DoomOfConviction 3 жыл бұрын
Fällkniven cons: VG 10 is NO outdoor steel! The sheath is a joke and you cant build a Kydex one because the grip material gets destroyed, the grip material is extremely grippy but just rubber and my first and last Fällkniven grip didn’t hold up one year (just batone a few time on the handle) and the last one they upped the price without giving anything extra. It’s a totally overrated knife company like bark river is totally underrated specially here in Europe!
@greekveteran2715
@greekveteran2715 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, Fallkniven never used a more appropriate decent robust steel, that and micarta handles, would explode their sells through the roof!! Imagine Fallkniven S1 with Vanadis 4 Extra steel, matt micarta handles and Kydex sheaths. At the price they sell these knives, that's how they should come from the factory!
@kalibmaxwell6394
@kalibmaxwell6394 7 жыл бұрын
Great video bud
@jameshartwell4345
@jameshartwell4345 5 жыл бұрын
S1
@wismods
@wismods 7 ай бұрын
Nice video. By now, probably neither. I have two of the BRs' more expensive models, and both have plenty of dissapointimg flaws. So, there is a question of consistency with BR. I still love my BRs and the immense impact of their legendary blade and handle design on the bushcraft and survival knife industry is undeniable. The Fallknivens and simply overpriced. They should all step up their qc as well as general quality when you consider their competition. I have a comparative video you may find interesting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaemn59jfNWsorcsi=VLzkTYcQHQnCGbUW
@anabelleblondeau9399
@anabelleblondeau9399 7 жыл бұрын
Actually the s1 has better steel because its lamenated so yhea
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 7 жыл бұрын
+ANABELLE Blondeau being linated makes it tougher for lateral stress, but the edge remains VG10 which according to my tests holds an edge about half as long as 3V. The 3V is also a hugely tough steel so I'm fairly happy to say 3V is overall better
@wtfmrb293
@wtfmrb293 7 жыл бұрын
In a "survival knife. That is what's important isn't it. Not chip dmg. Braking the knife in half is serious. Fallkniven will not brake in half. No matter how hard Lilly tries.
@Wastelander13
@Wastelander13 7 жыл бұрын
Just watch Alloutdoors destruction tests and you will see what laminated VG10 can take!
@joshuagenovese36
@joshuagenovese36 6 жыл бұрын
3v Is a tougher steel and bark river knives in my Opinion are Amazing...
@lyman135
@lyman135 6 жыл бұрын
@@wtfmrb293 3V is much stronger than any laminated steel.
@mrglock2313
@mrglock2313 4 жыл бұрын
BARK RIVER!!!!💪💪💪😎
@wtfmrb293
@wtfmrb293 7 жыл бұрын
Perfect conclusion. Lol. For me anyway .-)
@patbiggin644
@patbiggin644 5 жыл бұрын
Bark river all the way
@countryprepper4719
@countryprepper4719 5 жыл бұрын
BARK RIVER
@mrdarren1045
@mrdarren1045 6 жыл бұрын
I have heard some things that have always put me off bark river.... such as selling knives with bogus crappy/average steel as high quality steel. I have also heard that the owner is something of a dick. If not an out and out criminal. Maybe thats all just rumour but still doesnt inspire me with confidence and ive never heard such rumours about fallkniven.
@seanb6986
@seanb6986 6 жыл бұрын
Those instances are pretty rare... plus don’t forget about the lifetime warranty and spa treatments that BRKT provides. If your knife ever breaks, they will fix it or replace it, no questions asked. But, Fallkniven knives are definitely better
@joshuagenovese36
@joshuagenovese36 6 жыл бұрын
Darren Lambourne Mike Stewart of Bark River is a very knowledgeable man and has many yeat a of experience. Also bark river comes with a unlimited warranty..also I own 3 bark rivers and they are the best and toughest blades I own, well made and also made in the USA.
@pvp66
@pvp66 5 жыл бұрын
S1 is overpriced, Bark River is the Rolls Royce of knives 🔪
@svens.1917
@svens.1917 5 жыл бұрын
You're Mom is overpriced
@justincase4382
@justincase4382 5 жыл бұрын
Sveni S. Bam
@dash8465
@dash8465 5 жыл бұрын
@@svens.1917 your lips-n-ass are overpriced too, but I guess Justin Case didnt mind, all he could say is "Bam" when you were done with him. Or maybe I got it wrong, maybe you're just a childish dipshit talking about people's moms in the comments section for knives?
@AR9ify
@AR9ify 3 жыл бұрын
@@dash8465 i don't even want to speculate on how you managed to find out that his lips an ass is overpriced.
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