Celebration Florida: Disney's Not So Perfect Town

[@Skillseboy1]

I've been at Celebration and although everything looked nice, it felt like I was inside the Truman Show.

[@talen1406]

That’s Seaside, also in Florida.

[@bee4907]

That's what it looks like 😂

[@Alphalifestylecommunity]

LOL

[@TerryB751]

I've always had the impression that every blade of grass had to follow Disney's standards or the Mickey police would be knocking on your door.

[@xenianino6851]

But you have to fallow RULES

[@chambergambit]

I got lost driving across Florida once and ended up in Celebration. It was so disturbing. I was like, "Wait, how did I get to Connecticut?"

[@donut5818]

I live in CT & it indeed looks like my town.

[@Frost517]

Lol

[@emmaleebuzzard1023]

This is the best comment. 🤣🤣

[@AmericanGirl0410]

Haha I live in CT and my parents originally were going to purchase a house in Celebration for my family to grow up in because Disney is such a big part of our lives

[@malloryscherff2299]

as someone who lives in ct, i can attest to this. celebration looks like all the wealthier coast towns here.

[@stylecr8r]

"People working in the town shops that couldn't afford to live there..." Florida in a nutshell.

[@GuadalupeGuacamole]

style creator same for living in New York City, Los Angeles or a my asshole big city amiright?!? :)

[@ArturoVilchez92]

Any part of the states

[@thatrandomchannel8589]

American workers in general really.

[@adamflake3276]

You're joking right? Florida's cost of living is so cheap lmao

[@adamflake3276]

@Matthew Boyce people working at Disney make more than 99% of other companies in similar occupations.

[@GwenWittig]

A friend and I drove around Celebration late one night just for kicks..it was like stepping into the twilight zone..no animals neither wild nor domestic..bird song piped in through hidden loud speakers..it was bizarre..I'm a Native Floridian, and this was strange and so artificial..no thanks

[@GwenWittig]

@@oldisnew3967 oh hey God..I didn't know you liked to watch KZbin..I would have thought it would be rather tedious for you since you know all see all are all...and all...can't wait to celebrate Jesus's birthday Merry Merry God!

[@ImmolationBloom]

Celebration has nature walks that span several in an throughout its perimeter; its had a bear or two, wild boar, bald eagles, owls, soft-shell turtles, foxes, otters, deer of course, gators (goes without saying), rabbits, bobcats - green anole lizards but also the violet looking salamanders that are really rare. The fishing is fun there too. I think at a glance I understand where you’re coming from if you’re just driving through, but if you went for a walk on those trails which connect you to the various villages (ex: Downtown to Artisan Park & vice versa) you would see more different animal species than you could count with your fingers and toes. There’s also that giant grasshopper that’s seasonal through the Summer & Spring months which is pretty peculiar - it is strange when a squirrel runs toward you though I’ll give you that lolol

[@Natalie-lw2cn]

U expect birds to be singing at night? Lol that happens in the morning

[@GwenWittig]

@@Natalie-lw2cn I expected to hear the usual night noises..and I heard bird song..and I wasn't there in the morning as you astutely pointed out..look I'm not saying Celebration now sucks..this was about 20 years ago..it was all brand new, well what was there..me and my friend found it odd that we did hear birds singing..we would hear it out of the trees the very young trees, with nothing flying around or on power wires..it was coming in loops since you could hear it driving from spot to spot, the same bird song, sounding exactly like it did a tree or too back..and I am a native Floridian who has spent a lot of time outside in this fair state. The lack of normal nocturnal sounds was actually deafening. There were not cats lurking, no dogs barking and very little movement coming from the houses that were there. And btw that is standard Disney S.O.P. They use both smells and audio repetitions throughout the parks, so piping in some birdsong at 11 pm is not a big deal to them.

[@Natalie-lw2cn]

@@GwenWittig oh I live in Florida as well and I remember when I went there (which was pretty recently like I don't remember when I went there but it was this year)it seemed cute but at the same time idk everything is too close to each other plus it's not even affordable I never noticed that speaker thing there since I went there in the morning but I have seen those speakers in their hotels before its just odd to put fake bird noises lol real ones are better

[@likira111]

What I really wanna know is do convenience stores in towns owned by Disney still sell condoms?

[@zach8569]

This is beyond science

[@uraniumsoup1]

oh shit- probably not.

[@mrmaniac3]

Of course not, remember, Disney's entire goal is more kids to watch more vids.

[@CountryFriedCG]

They sell condoms in on-property gift shops so I would assume the answer is yes.

[@evandrocarlociaccia9877]

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[@TheBisonBunch]

I was the 7th resident that moved there in 1996 and lived there for 6 years. It was an exciting time then and had that small town feel for the first couple of years. After a recent visit, though, it just seemed very overcrowded and a tourist destination. I’m glad I lived there in the early years....great memories for sure.

[@StrangerHappened]

You had to move eventually. Bad roofs caught you up or just because of job/family?

[@arbonneladyTN]

Why the move out? Very curious as I have heard about crime that also came there, very sad.

[@sailorqueen2013]

You can’t make a perfect town because humans are flawed

[@vincevegacustoms754]

If everyone would have their place in every communities..there would be no robbing or even crimes. Humans are flawed because of money

[@connorscanlan1736]

r/iam14andthisisdeep

[@christianfaux736]

@@vincevegacustoms754 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh man... good one! Oh wait, you were serious? You know people still robbed people and committed crimes before money existed right? Like, crimes of passion are still a thing?

[@capeewee]

Vince Vega Customs Not Money. Just Material Wealth in General.

[@Gorgonzolacheese12]

Vince Vega Customs hey you do know uhh that society is built around money like how would that even work currency is need because stores wouldn’t exist things would just be taken and probably a lot more problems money is needed for a society and I think someone as deep as you can realise we live in a society

[@lukewatto8223]

I'm from Ireland and Celebration was the first town I visited in the US. It was absolutely bizarre, I initially wondered if all American towns felt so surreal and artificial. I quickly learned that Celebration is a strange anomaly.

[@daininsurance]

Lol that had to be mind boggling

[@TYLERCOOPER-z4i]

I'm from Ireland as well. Whoops wrong comment. Haha. Thumbs up my man.

[@Larry]

Looks like the town in The Truman Show!

[@danielmalone1689]

Cricket noises*

[@adanactnomew7085]

Which is also a new urbanist town built in the postmodern style in Florida.

[@stirgy4312]

or Hot Fuzz.

[@eyannaanais]

I have said the same thing

[@TheChoochooboy99]

There is a book published about 20 years ago entitled Celebration USA. It’s a first resident point of view that pretty much tells this exact story. I have read it many times and it is a good read. I would recommend it very much.

[@zerogeass21]

Its kinda weird how Celebration and Kissimmee are right next to each other yet so so different.

[@supremeleaderharryballs8104]

Celebration is in kissimme

[@victorm2129]

@jakerrr celebration is in Kissimmee technically. For example if you live in celebration you can put Kissimmee,FL in your address .

[@ShidaiTaino]

Lord Harry Balls celebration is not an official town

[@vulpin7150]

I live in Kissimmee and sometimes visit Celebration, it's a pretty cool. I have a friend who lives there and he says it's a pretty great place.

[@wav177]

Im from Kissimmee... Celebration is a good safe place to pull over and count the bullet holes in your car you got while driving around in Central Florida..

[@lw9924]

I feel like the Bluth Company built those homes..

[@TheRubinre]

I think that's why the school there failed. They needed one where children were not SEEN or HEARD.

[@KMcNally117]

Solid like a rock!

[@luisguzman3657]

Oh sure blame the guy in the $10,000 Mickey Mouse suit

[@boltinabottle6307]

Sweetwater is really terrible in that area as well.

[@toribrynna]

As a kid who grew up in Celebration since the age of 2, I can say this is the best video I’ve seen on the town. Thank you for being honest and not sensationalizing the downsides. And as for the comment about children growing up there getting hit in the face by reality, I can say that is partly true. Thankfully, I spent a good amount of time out of the town though. There really is nowhere else like it.

[@Bitchtheman]

So it's a town that's pretending it's still the 50's

[@ElementofKindness]

For the betterment of the world, maybe more should?

[@jaymeeleighjx1x]

Id love to live in the 50s

[@benconnor3206]

Bitchtheman that is a great way to put it! But not anymore really, my mother works for Disney at a building there and growing up it was always wild traveling in there, but now it’s quite normalized

[@NIN10DOXD]

@@ElementofKindness That would be terrible for everyone who isn't a straight white Christian man.

[@Farrell0208]

What your reffering to is what's portrayed in typical TV shows as how the 50s we're. The 50s we're nothing like "leave it to beaver" portrays.

[@spicewave8244]

I’m a Floridian. I prefer old, beach cottages over these artificial weird “perfection” homes. In a theme park-

[@somethingwithbungalows]

Spiceyspoon :3 not Floridian but I agree.

[@jackieskint4177]

I grew up in Davenport, right next to celebration, and actually I always wanted to live there, I thought it was perfect, I would love visiting it, but idk I feel like I’m the only one..

[@fuxan]

Can I get a "hell yeh" here?! Former Floridian and you cant pay me to live in this corporate pile of forced dreams. Give me a shanty with the bare essentials in a modest 1 story made ood school with care, craftmanship and uniqueness.

[@goatcatofchaos]

@@fuxan HECK YAH

[@goatcatofchaos]

I laughed at "perfection"

[@Champigne]

Sounds like just about every suburban housing development.

[@desp8161]

It's actually got a nice town centre instead of a strip mall

[@LucasFernandez-fk8se]

de sp the town center isn’t my favorite, thats the place I woulda changed to be a strip mall

[@wendybusby9415]

Do you think Walt Disney had any idea that he was starting a cult? Did he do it on purpose or was it just a development that his followers believed?

[@troyevitt2437]

Why do I see the bodies of self-poisoned disciples along the side of the road with "Small, Small World" playing on a maddeningly endless loop?

[@NotaPizzaGRL]

Walt Disney was obsessed with controlling the lives of those who worked for him so Celebration would be his ideal society. No filith, no poors, no foreigners, and everyone's lives built around supporting his company. Kinda like Henry Ford in that regard.

[@AMPProf]

Cult? Noooooo! Now now nothing's wrong with being a crazy-nutty Micky mouse fan dressed as Cinderella!

[@joeyvindictive3552]

@@NotaPizzaGRL just like henry Ford. Did you ever read up on fordlandia? That's some crazy scary stuff!

[@리주민]

Cult leaders didnt have prime time channels. 😋

[@amandajoyce7608]

Kinda sounds like they’re trying to build “Pleasantville.”

[@tanteichan1]

I thought the same thing too. Now I got to watch that movie again.

[@kiwikiwi2483]

Ohhh I remember Lorax. Love that movie

[@joshusdog7677]

I used to live in Celebration and I loved every moment of it. The scenery was idyllic, i felt safe going out for a walk alone even at midnight everyone you met was nice. Not that it didn't have its problems. Everything mentioned about the homes here is correct and the majority of the people that lived in Celebration did have a higher median income than the rest of the country and yes the majority of the people that worked inside of Celebration could not even afford to live there. I myself worked in Orlando because that was the only place i could find a job that payed me enough to live in Celebration, but the town was not a disaster. If you could afford to live there its like living the dream. I still go there on occasion to catch a movie or go to a bar because i know i probably won't have to deal with rowdy patrons or high crime.

[@craigcode7103]

Sounds like most of Canada except everybody's broke.

[@takoyarobinson5708]

Sick Game Squad Or white people strung out on meth

[@fakename287]

@gilbert martinez what the fuck does that have anything to do with this

[@119Agent]

It is a great place to live. None of these things mentioned here outweigh the positives of the community.

[@J.D.Vision]

I rented a top garage apartment there for 5 years... It was awesome.

[@dog2man1994]

"there were people working in the shops here that couldn't even afford to live there" sounds like the San Francisco Bay area

[@trevor7520]

San diego too!!

[@anaz4350]

That’s exact,y what I was thinking

[@kathyyoung1774]

Or ANY upscale community. Laborers can’t afford to live in every community they help build.

[@TahtahmesDiary]

I just commented that on someone else’s comment: There’s lots of cities like that here in CA. SF and Santa Cruz come to mind. Some people take the train for an hour just to work at Safeway in San Carlos. The wealthy could care less if there’s anywhere for these people to live locally.

[@TahtahmesDiary]

@@kathyyoung1774 Yeah the wealthy expect us to commute hours to get minimum wage in their upscale neighborhoods and many have no choice but to do this to survive.

[@Cydonia2020]

I remember the old Benny Hill joke when he described making a movie: the scenery was beautiful, the only problem was that people kept getting in front of it. If you want a perfect town, don’t let people move into it.

[@srabchun]

When celebration was newer, I remember that there were income restrictions you had to qualify for to live there. And when I visited it, it creeped me out. Because you got a sense of it being a fake, artificial and unrealistic world. It was like being on the set of Leave it to Beaver. That was in the early 2000’s, so things may have changed. But that was my impression of the place.

[@DuchessRococoPuff]

I think these past two videos have been some of your best, Rob! The production values are beautiful, and I love the use of the old Disney cartoons with certain segments!

[@MidwaytoMainStreet]

Thanks! That means a lot to me! I was a little worried about deciding to make them right before a trip, but I'm happy with them!

[@boredmillionaire9914]

lmao’d at the part where the painters were moving their butts 😅

[@prestondial1992]

It’s okay. No school in Osceola country has a capable faculty. Also, you are really heavily emphasizing the teething years. Celebration is stupidly different now and it a great town. My only complaint is that demand to live there is still so high that the housing is wildly overpriced. Sincerely, -Florida Man (oh wait.. no, not that)

[@mustdieproductions]

*BREAKING NEWS: Florida Man Detained For Alledged Connection To Real Estate Money Laundering Scheme Ran By Cultists Who Worship Cartoon Mouse.*

[@Imperial0666]

I'm sure if they could have they would have gotten their own local school district just for Celebration, but Florida doesn't allow that. they have county based school districts. I suspect a lot of people use private schools there as well.

[@barbyoung7601]

@@Imperial0666 That is true. As a former teacher at the high school as well as Celebration resident, the high school has a very low percentage of Celebration students. Most are bused in. The teachers are fantastic; it's the system that stinks. My older two kids went to the high school for all four of their years, my youngest began in the first grade at the K-8 (which is small). We chose to move, but not due to the school or town. (Love Merritt Island!) We enjoyed living there and I'm laughing at this thread. It is a unique place, but the people are nice, everyday people. Not snobby. We still have friends there and frequently are there. It is not all "white" people! People are too quick to judge or believe everything they hear.

[@officialmichaelcarrasco]

@@mustdieproductions Cartoon thumbnail and fake name. Troll.

[@prestondial1992]

@Crystal Method uhhh... as far as I know nobody does that. What you on about mate?

[@purselmer5931]

Wow, who would have thunk that only wealthier people could live in an expensive town?

[@TheDisney1901]

Anyone back here after Disney just announced Storyliving, or is it just me?

[@MariselaR.da1daOnly]

That's how I got here! Never heard of anything like this! Did you come from the Jason video (I think that's his name)

[@MariselaR.da1daOnly]

Yea the Jason A Chan. I love his videos.

[@mattmajors]

Now it time for one on Golden Oak

[@SteveIsSleeve]

Agreed!

[@hirolives]

I was about to say the same thing.

[@supernanners3217]

Any house there is my dream house

[@cartonet8186]

It's not even finished. Also, it's a completely different kind of community. Celebration is more like a regular upper-Middle Class neighborhood with properties starting at $200,000 or something, whereas Golden Oak is just a multimillionaire gated subdivision. I still think Orlando in general is not very "classy." It just doesn't have enough wealthy like most other parts of the country. There's not enough restaurants, clubs, high-end stores to cater to the wealthy the way other major cities could.

[@kraftykay4276]

Karlton est do you live in orlando? Celebration has millions of dollar homes. High end stores are millenia mall and outlet mall. Lots of high end shops.

[@jeremyud]

It'll be really interesting to see what the town looks like in another 25 years. By that point, the original homes are either going to be demolished and rebuilt, or completely refurbished.

[@jljljjljlj7529]

It's still here.

[@robertchristian4473]

If Disney wanted a perfect town they shouldn’t have put it in Kissimmee...🤦‍♂️😂🤣

[@johnstanley8324]

If Disney wanted a perfect town they shouldn't have let people move in to it.

[@kgal1298]

John Stanley facts they should have just turned it into more theme park.

[@wav177]

LMAO!!!

[@BeJazziFashion]

disney world is in kissimmee where else they gon put it 😭

[@KadenRenz]

My mom and her family lived in celebration, they were actually part of the initial wave. So after the video I asked my mom about the school there and she laughed and said "it was such a joke"

[@WinstonPoptart]

I've been to Celebration school

[@craigcode7103]

@@WinstonPoptart details please!

[@jaymeeleighjx1x]

Clearly wasnt that bad if she managed to get an education and a job and afford you

[@AmericanGirlGymnasts]

Jaymee McAliece her mom might have left before she went to school

[@WinstonPoptart]

@@craigcode7103 What details would you like to know about the school? It is very close from Celebration. Like a good 20 minute walking distance.

[@mattwolf7698]

This town slightly creeps me out, it reminds me of The Truman Show.

[@ainemairead4542]

Celebration remiands me of ''Stepford''

[@Arvak777]

Well the town In The Truman Show is in Florida. :o

[@ImmolationBloom]

Mostly it’s because we’re used to Metropolitan life that involves a different level of crime lol

[@soyboylatte]

@jakerrr the movie was filmed in Seaside, Florida.

[@joeurquiola3123]

jakerrr wrong in Florida

[@vistaramicphotography9865]

Very entertaining! As someone who's lived in Celebration since day 1, I had no idea people had such strong feelings about a place they don't live in.

[@spider-rick]

Yeah they’re all delusional it ain’t that bad 😂

[@e-mananimates2274]

Even if Celebration wasn't the ideal model town, I still think there are plenty of lesson you can learn from it to further improve existing communities.

[@emilewillaerts6368]

E-ManAnimates it’s still beautiful, the park is pretty cool too there’s also Christmas in celebration that gets pretty fun

[@e-mananimates2274]

Honestly, a part of me wants to live there.

[@ernestinemaloy6752]

E-ManAnimates I'd Move there...

[@gissneric]

I also go there to relax and eat. Such a peaceful neighborhood with lots of places to stroll.

[@colormedubious4747]

Those lessons have been compiled by the Congress for the New Urbanism. Celebration followed most of the same guidelines.

[@allenatkins2263]

Welcome to Celebration! Where only the mouse is black!

[@henrycoats371]

Allen Atkins someone always has to play the race card.

[@aubreyalvarez7396]

When race stops mattering it won’t be in the cards.

[@henrycoats371]

aubrey alvarez when people stop using race as a excuse and start taking individual responsible it may stop.

[@cdeekay3420]

aubrey alvarez Stop being racist and it won’t be in the cards… Dumbass

[@henrycoats371]

Allen Atkins no. You, only you made it about race. No on elee

[@captaintalon4485]

This town gives me Wandavision vibes

[@Yensid951927]

As much as many fans love and respect Walt's final dream of Epcot being the city that could redefine the future of cities and communities, Celebration shows that (even on a smaller scale) it would have been almost impossible to hold onto the planed happiness of having everything remain perfect for everyone who lived in and around it, despite any progress it could have made.

[@raphaelmarquez9650]

I would take that over the reality of dysfunctional families seen from Seth McFarlene's shows.

[@yehonatanomer158]

Yeah, but I'm also pretty sure that many rich (or at least above average socio-economicly) suburbs are already that today... I don't think celebration is actually any different...

[@mfitzburger5137]

@@yehonatanomer158 Many suburbs had the same issues, but not as severe an extent as described here (I can't imagine many places in my town that would get away having 80% of its residents be white).

[@promontorium]

Unless you never relinquish ownership. A hotel or apartment building can maintain standards and atmosphere its entire length of operation.

[@solarmoth4628]

M Fitzburger my town is 77.9% white and that matches most of the surrounding towns in the area.

[@johncase1353]

My home there caught on fire. When the fire department showed up they were all dressed as Disney characters. The guy in the Mickey costume passed out of heat exhaustion. All in all it was a interesting day.

[@couchgamingnews9379]

Lol what the heck

[@zuzoscorner]

Dress in very flammable costumes..yup can't see that backfiring horribly

[@MichaelAivaliotis]

I believe everything I read on the internet

[@jaysmith1408]

Strange, if i’m not mistaken, Celebration is covered by Reedy Creek’s emergency services, which although heavily influenced and managed by Disney Corp, is exempt from the Disney World nonsense. Another point is apparently Disney has their own security, and at times qazi police force. Wouldn’t Reedy Creek or the local sheriff be responsible for legitimate police force, not a private company?

[@seagrape2881]

@@jaysmith1408 dude the guy is joking.

[@beefyking775]

I own a mold remediation company in orlando and have been called to celebration so many times for mold and water damage.

[@jljljjljlj7529]

That is everywhere in Florida. It downpours for 30mins everyday here. What do you expect?

[@thebunnyfoofoo]

I do not feel it was much like EPCOT. EPCOT was to be only for people who worked at Disney. They were not to own any property, and could not stay after retirement. In exchange of not owning, they would always have the most up-to-date technologies in their homes, be able to use the monorail, have energy produced, food grown, and large international food/shopping areas. The schools, I imagine, would also (like everything else there) only be for residents.

[@a_cowwithlegs]

no epcot was for everyone to live in

[@P.J.MartyCone]

That's da culprit in your profile pic. I knew I recognized him. He was the lil bastard sweepin up all da field mice.

[@tomservo56954]

@@a_cowwithlegs Yes...that was the original concept for Epcot (acronym for Experimental Planned Community Of Tomorrow).Walt was still alive when it was first proposed,, but those who knew better told him as residents would have all those strictures and regulations, and no representational government--only the Disney organization--he would have to pay people to live there.

[@리주민]

Still don't understand why disney had an issue with residents voting rather than just landowners. If he could create districts that allowed only landowner voting, why didn't that extend to a housing district too?

[@mitchg7809]

I suppose live in the "single man's" version of this community. An ultra modern, 500 unit high-rise Condominium. Everything is astheticly pleasing if not a bit too uniform. When it's time for the orchid in my elevator vestibule to be replaced another one exactly like it is brought in. The staff is very nice but you can't get away with anything. Cameras track your every move. I can't even go from one residential floor to another without obtaining a six diget elevator code. I even had to attend a new resident orientation after I bought my place. Me & one other new home owner were inundated with rules. Just when I think it's all a little too perfect I walk outside & see a homeless man beating a shopping cart with a baseball bat.

[@BonnieCribbs]

I live in Celebration and absolutely love it. ...but Disney selling Town Center to Lexin was a horrible decision. Lexin is a horrible company and has zero quality standards. Their buildings are filthy, in need of major repair and they definitely are not honoring their agreement with Disney. ......but I definitely love living in Celebration. It's so incredible here!

[@jjthomas2297]

I was there recently and that is what I noticed the most. I expected something out of "The Truman Show" but in that movie, the town seemed new and maintained. Celebration seems old and neglected

[@susanknight5884]

Bonnie Cribbs clarification needs to be addressed. Lexin controls DOWNTOWN, not the rest of the town.

[@BonnieCribbs]

Susan, I specified Town Center.

[@susanknight5884]

Sorry, Bonnie. I should have read it more carefully.

[@swtch.s]

I live there two

[@savy4266]

I went to celebration high and let me tell you, those kids are so bubble sheltered 😂

[@Portland4114]

Am i wrong when most statistics in the media describing white people prosperity and positive incomes is spinned as negative. Also, when I hear about Korea Town or other nationalities doing well in America, it’s a positive spin. I’m not criticizing the video, it was really well done.

[@MerryPippins.]

I worked at the hospital in Celebration. They were incredibly focused on creating a facade. They didn’t allow overhead announcements unless there was a code blue. They had strict dress codes. They made the hospital look like a hotel that reflected Epcot, where different areas of the hospital represented different countries around the world.

[@spider-rick]

Wow they want you to wear a uniform, what monsters 🤡

[@MidwaytoMainStreet]

Obviously there's lots of vocal feedback in regards to the premieres. I appreciate that! I just got the feature today so I'm testing it out with this video, but I currently don't have any plans set in stone for the future beyond that. I like the idea of being able to watch with other subscribers and chat, but I also understand that having a non-live video sit in a sub box for days can be annoying. So in the future if I use it again I'll try to set it up the night before rather than days before.

[@Bunjamin27]

I just wish we could toggle premiers on/off.. I had 3 premier videos waiting in my subscription feed recently, so I think they're rolling it out more. It's just like a tease/"gotchya!"/psych! kind of thing when we realize it's not actually a video we can watch. Maybe some people like that, which is fine, but gah! Need to option to toggle off premiers! :)

[@saadiqsmith297]

Hey rob plays can you make a Disney history video on golden oaks

[@AndrewSkow1]

How about exercising restraint and just using it for special/big productions? There's no reason to use it on every video.

[@edvaira6891]

Please don’t use this feature...it’s annoying

[@ScrimbloMan]

I live in celebration so the place is actually really nice. The place has nice houses,great community, I go to school there and I go downtown often right after school. This place is quite great. The place also has rich and medium houses to make everyone not feel like their poor and everyone’s rich. Our school is now k-8. Also it is the same as most schools. It is very easy to be active hear. Yes celebration was bad at first but now it’s nice. Looking at the old time and not the new can really ruin our economy. This place isn’t perfect btw it is normal. We also have the town center that is great and a great place to go is upper crust. It is for some rich people and yes I have rich fwiends, but I live moderately. Showing these videos also shows that it hasn’t changed and it’s nice it really doesn’t need to. The only thing that changed is how great it is now and the f***in theater is closed. And to the end part this place is great and I took this entire video + some more to write this so saying the worst place to live is not very kind and while it might help you please be considering what effect it has on us. People on the internet can change people’s opinions so can you please at least change the title to “celebration,a nice place with a bad history” or something like that? If you do thank and if you don’t screw you(the aithiest way of saying bless you but I don’t believe in god).

[@MyriadGinger]

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I was trying so hard to find this through google searches last year and came up with NOTHING! This is what I remember from childhood - that Celebration was riddled with construction problems and unhappy residents! I felt like history was being wiped out! Thank you for compiling this video!

[@VictorianRabbit3456]

Long Schnozzed Tribesman why are you people so up your own ass about this place? Do you ever leave and think about other people and communities?

[@OttoBiography]

To me its a success. It is a beautiful, functional town near Disney. Of course it would not be perfect, but it is certainly better than most towns in the U.S

[@Nocturne22]

It's falling apart, nobody owns anything because a company owns it, it's insanely expensive for what you get, the schools are garbage but pretends it's not garbage, and the HOA is utterly tyrannical in their policies. No city should take any planning advice from this place, as it seems like a total joke.

[@TahtahmesDiary]

@@Nocturne22 8:20 It says Disney was selling the houses. That’s a real thing that some companies own entire neighborhoods but that’s not what’s happening here specifically. People DO own those homes.

[@SteveIsSleeve]

I think I would have been disappointed if I was one of those original buyers. Expectations were too high in terms of what it was going to be like. However, if I were to buy now, I think I'd have a better chance of being happy there. My expectations would be that it's a nice community of people who want to live close to the happiest place on earth. Plus, even for some of the most expensive houses up for sale, the real estate is actually more bang for your buck than Toronto (my home), so that would be great too! Ultimately, I think it would depend on whether or not the reality of living near Disney would live up to the ideal of living near Disney.

[@Hheemmii]

Walt should have just played animal crossing

[@NicotineDolls]

I grew up there. My house was the one in the background when the body was being taken out.

[@spinningninja2]

I grew up in celebration. Lived there from when I was five to when I was eleven. It was a very interesting experience. The town itself is beautiful, and there’s a lot of things for kids to do in the town center. The people however leave a lot to be desired. I can’t remember the details but my parents were always aware of some new drama that everyone was going through. It was always such basic suburbian stuff too, like person x didn’t attend person y’s barbecue. They would just get real nasty with each other over really petty stuff.

[@marisa7482]

The thing this, Celebration inspired other neighborhoods in Central Florida. I live in Avalon park, which is one of them. I should also mention that Celebration Hospital is amazing. It looks like a hotel and the rooms are beautiful. It’s great being able to watch the Disney fireworks after giving birth.

[@tomobedlam9045]

First mistake: wanting to own a house because of the "Disney" name. I can't stand Disney fanatics.

[@jimmy3people0]

for me, the quintessential "Disney fan" is some upper-middle-class white wine mom from a bourgie Orlando suburb (though not necessarily Celebration) that has complained to her HOA about black kids riding bikes on her street at least twice

[@dynamitekid5521]

Jersey Jimmy you talk about white people online but ain’t man enough to do it in person.

[@olivebranch7769]

@@dynamitekid5521 I say this shit to white people all the time🤷🏾‍♀️

[@troyevitt2437]

And the HOA was called the Micky House Club

[@neodoesmakeup]

As someone who just recently moved from Celebration, I really appreciated this two part series. My experience with Celebration started in 2005 and technically still continues to today. This town is special because it's close enough to everything, but it's basically secluded. You're right next to the tourist traps and multiple families that need help, but you rarely see it. Celebration is a conundrum to many, but it used to be home.

[@cwbrooks5329]

Sorry. Seems pretty great to me. No place is perfect, Celebration looks like it comes closer than a lot of towns do.

[@MidwaytoMainStreet]

That's totally fine. The thesis of the video wasn't that it's a bad place to live. It's just that it had problems like any other town, and failed to meet the goals Disney set out for it.

[@joleenmarch3253]

It's actually great, I live there and barely anything bad happens, a bunch of events happen though. And it's really safe and PLEASE

[@joleenmarch3253]

Pleasent*

[@JoshuaNicholas650]

Celebration should have been used for the DCP housing instead of the apartments they live

[@colonial6452]

We visited several years ago and thought that we had entered Stepford.

[@richardcasias7754]

I couldn't live in a state who's flower is mildew. To much humidity no thanks.

[@MsDemanuel]

We dont care if you would live here or not lol. Thanks for playing

[@AreGeeBee]

Black hole sun, won't you come...

[@owltheherald4199]

Hahahahahaha brilliant! Perfect use of this lyric

[@리주민]

Actually, the sun would turn into a white dwarf. Only massive stars have chance of turning into blackholes. Not as catchy, but correct. 😉

[@MagCynic]

Throughout the video, Rob brings up how the Disney Co pitched Celebration as the "perfect town". Did they, though? Did I miss that part of the video? Hell, even Roy E. Disney just says it's a "really nice" place to live.

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

Agreed. I'd need to see a Disney press release or press conference where they say this, but I highly doubt anyone would make that claim. The video maker needs to use that tired cliché as the antagonist or villain for the premise of the video me thinks.

[@TheJohnnymeatballs]

I’m confused what is wrong with a Truman Show / Pleasantville old school anytown U.S.A. life? The negative words are odd to me 🤔 if folks don’t dig that why move there you know the deal going in why complain if it ain’t your vibe?

[@sampleentry5253]

It's odd, because that lifestyle is unsustainable and unattainable in the modern age. People like to romanticize the 50's in America without acknowledging that it was possible only because of the deadliest war in human history and was only really ever that good for white Americans.

[@TheJohnnymeatballs]

@@sampleentry5253 Hey I feel you there regarding unsustainable / unattainable lifestyles (believe me -- I reside in northern New Jersey!), so yes some sort of "suburban perfection" may be extinct or endangered though am still NOT prepared to equivocally declare such is due to war(s) or anything else related to...... race relations..... but.... Honestly my main point is that there should be no issues for folks striving for a "piece" of those; albeit flawed simpler times, and why can't CELEBRATION (and others of similar ilk) at the very least serve that purpose? ....... Sooooooo...... with that said, maybe what I meant to convey initially was just to purely offer a counterpoint suggestion in which maybe, perhaps, all these aforementioned potential negatives are indeed already "known"............yet............. offer remain that better alternate reality to the real deal 2019 version of Modern Main Street, U.S.A. !

[@sampleentry5253]

TheJohnnymeatballs It is due to war that the 50's lifestyle was possible. America was the only nation left to shoulder the burden of industrial output lost by Europe, which was one of the manufacturing center of the time. This fact should be obvious to anyone, especially since the US harnessed that industry to rebuild both Allied and Axis countries--an effort that would have been impossible if not for the US's existing and (at this point) growing industries. Race relations is a whole other beast of a problem that was, at this point in the 50's, coming to a head, considering that for a second world war, American minorities yet again died for US soil and were again denied the same rights as their white compatriots. This fact alone should be pressingly obvious to ANYBODY who has studied US history. There's more to this, obviously, and it's a delicate issue that people overlook when they seriously consider that the bygone decades were somehow "better", wholesale. Essentially, you can go ahead and celebrate the 50's for what it represented, but to question why people are so appalled that you do so should have been taught to you by your betters.

[@sissyrayself7508]

I would love to live in a place like that.

[@no_rubbernecking]

Appreciate your comment. Basically the pitch, as i understood it at the time, was 1) A retake on the old company town, but without the need to work for that company. 2) The company would take care of things in a way where the messy problems of real life were addressed before they became too obvious. 3) The principal of social responsibility would perfuse every decision, and by proving effective in giving all residents (of many different economic levels) much improved quality of life compared to existing alternatives, the project would demonstrate Walt's pet theory: that the major social problems of our time can be fixed _with existing resources_, and that the only reason we therefore have these problems is not a lack of finance or or other resources but simply insufficient orginality/openness in our thinking. In this respect it _was_ very EPCOT, but trying to demonstrate it without the "subsidy" of the massive admission prices that guests pay to visit EPCOT (which demonstration was always the implied purpose of the project) was impossible, because Walt's theory was never true. So in that sense it failed, and that is i think why there is criticism from some residents. For me the main lesson is not that social engineering is a mistake, but rather that it's hard (which is not news to social scientists) and should be undertaken carefully and with great respect for the lives of the "test subjects". IMHO Disney failed in that regard, and having realized that, they made the right decision by bowing out. Whether they stayed or went, there would be things to criticize them for. But the fact is they were never up to the task, and owning up to that fact was the right response. There have been and will be many other similar projects, and in the right hands they can do a lot of good. Sometimes people do focus on smaller issues too much, causing them to miss the bigger picture.

[@possiblyagriffincosplay2279]

I went there a few years ago with my brother. He said he was scared to sneeze. Creepy and I can't get it into my head that the shops are real, the hospital is real etc. Just all seems like a toy town

[@MollyOmigosh]

This was fascinating! The whole concept of “Celebration” is so interesting and strange-I sort of can’t believe it exists. Thanks for putting this awesome video together!

[@xxthadx]

I miss the movie theater no one thought of it. Could always see shows on opening weekend with minimal crowds. Hinch it closed lol

[@J.D.Vision]

Same here😯

[@evanh.6462]

You were the other 2 that always shared the theater with me?

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

"Hinch it closed lol" Zero idea what this means.

[@xxthadx]

@@OMGWTFLOLSMH hence *

[@tobyfinney768]

This reminds me of a horror movie. Your car falls into a ditch and you look for help. Turns out you’re in a perfect little town, but there’s a dark secret that everyone is forced to keep.

[@TH-dc3fg]

I can see why you would think Disney making ”the perfect town” would be a good idea, but look any deeper and you will easily see that perfection in impossible, especially when a huge company is doing it on their own dime

[@lissettet]

as someone who lives in Orlando and visits celebration frequently I love this video and this channel. keep it up rob, I love all the detail you put in these videos

[@MidwaytoMainStreet]

Thanks!

[@martinpetersson4350]

So what's Celebration like?

[@RariettyC]

Martin Petersson Not OP but I was surprised by how community-oriented it was when I visited. Disney definitely achieved their goal on that front. Like, if you've lived there for a while and hang out in the local pub alone, you're probably going to end up seeing people you know anyway. To be honest, before I visited for the first time, I was expecting that everyone would be uptight and just keep to themselves and only live there because it's Disney, but there seems to be a real sense of comradery between the locals.

[@martinpetersson4350]

Nice, seems like a good place to live :)

[@darlingdeb7010]

I'm not going to lie, I absolutely love the idea of Celebration. I really want to visit! I wouldn't mind living in this type of a place either.

[@shop99er]

I visited Celebration several years ago, and all I could think was I was in the Stepford Town.

[@velveetaslingshot]

This is so disney. A big flashy image that turns out to be completely false.

[@Masterge77]

This town is the closest we'll ever get to EPCOT actually happening, only for it to become like every other American town in the end.

[@TWTR4EVER]

BOTTOM LINE, the problem lies on the flawed laws and regulations in the State of Florida that gives free range to developers contractors and industry to profit over quality, security and durability. When you buy Real Estate is Florida "there's a sucker born every minute"

[@jenniesweetcheeks]

Sounds like what has happened in Santa Fe New Mexico! All the rich Californians moved in, started causing the price of real estate up. They got into the local government and started passing laws to make sure that all the homes in a certain area had to conform to certain criteria. The people that work in Santa Fe, for the most part, can't afford to live there!

[@bandombeviews6035]

Jennie Frank *Cough*Toronto*Cough*

[@JokerL1000]

You know how white people do

[@TaKevinT]

That's just gross.

[@mfitzburger5137]

@@bandombeviews6035 Oh god, yes. I never thought I'd have to explain to anyone why a vacancy tax should exist, but here we are!

[@hewhoeatsall]

Dawg people come to California to do that. If ts a rich people problem not a California problem.

[@MrGTO-ze7vb]

Overpriced garbage. for SHEEPLE... What are people thinking... ???

[@JP-wx6uh]

This is basically a cult. A very wealthy cult.

[@sharkheadism]

I believe it. It was destined to attract a certain clientele regardless of what the planners had in mind for it.

[@jrasicmark1]

I always wondered what the apartments looked like on the inside, but since I knew I couldn't afford them, and traffic always looked like a nightmare at the entrance of Celebration, I never took the time to look at the apartments on the inside. I did drive around the town once. I just thought the houses were a little too close together considering how much they cost. Oh, and I heard some horror stories about local Orlando area builders who built homes on the opposite side of Orlando during the boom. I heard of walls of new homes that just soaked up water like sponges when it rained (and it rained a lot in Florida).

[@리주민]

Wish the housing would be pedestrian only streets like in disney. Mix some commercial in there too (still no vehicular traffic).

[@jemma.p]

2:28 - Damn, those bois THICCC

[@lainiwakura1776]

I wanted to know about the ridiculous HOA rules. :c

[@susanknight5884]

The rules in Boca are ten times worse. Been here 24 years, and they aren’t that bad. Most of which is published is not true.

[@Cal-El]

Boca native here. This city is ass when it comes to HOA. Avoid it at all costs

[@toscodav]

Apparently they don't allow you to piss on your neibors lawn and put your car up on cinder blocks to change the oil. WTF.

[@indy_go_blue6048]

I recently bought a home; the first thing I told the realtor was NO HOA (pronounced whore) stealing my money and telling me how to live. He says that's the first thing he hears 90% of the time.

[@리주민]

@@Cal-El You can't. No one had the power to opt out of HOAs. Like trying to opt out of county or city govt...except HOAs are corporations. How is that legal?

[@tonyro66]

A lot of new construction right now is having the same problem. Be careful what companies you buy from

[@hectort1473]

I was born in Celebration. It is in fact a cult town. If you walk through the wood path behind the school that connects to downtown you'll see some black balloons hanging from the trees

[@theedrstrangelove]

Always was and will always be yuppie-ville.

[@troyevitt2437]

Then you'll love Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, where they think they live in Charleston, but "not CHARLESTON-Charleston" because those are the Dirty Folk.

[@TheOnlyRiktor]

a coworker of mine used to live in celebration and has told me about all the domestic abuse cases happening in houses all around him. Ironically fitting with a name like that.

[@eduardocolon6333]

I live in Celebration. I can tell that, at least right now, it’s like any other town.

[@troyevitt2437]

You're saying this so they don't have to "use the bees" again, aren't you?

[@AMPProf]

What....???? You might want to drive round Florida again! Need some instate vacation time lol!

[@zoeg3200]

I was born into a neighborhood near Chicago that looks like this, so I would have to disagree. They definitely stole from this concept here! Almost looks identical.

[@NewWaveArch90]

It wasn't groundbreaking even at the time, it was riding a wave of neo-traditional communities begun primarily by the architectural firm Duany Plater-Zyberk. There was also Kentlands in Maryland, and Seaside in Florida (where The Truman Show was filmed).

[@KevinBlank]

Seaside and Watercolor Florida definitely have a creepy vibe under the surface.

[@ItsssErstaunlich]

My best friend growing up lived in Celebration, her house almost always smelled like mold.

[@vinceflango1893]

creepier than that... they require certain curtains, no palm trees, and people had to host other neighbors on their porch every so often. no florida homes allowed--which was a problem cuz this is florida. there's a reason we don't build new England houses here.

[@echoedinnocence]

No palms?? How can you live in Florida without palms?? I remember when I lived in Florida as a kid, we learned about the local flora and fauna and they spent a week on just the different palms there were and how to take care of em. How can you live in a place in Florida without palms? @.@ The one time I did go through celebration it was creepy as fuck.I didnt see a single person walking around...

[@toribrynna]

There are palm trees in town, and no one is required to host anyone on their porches. Certain curtains, yes and no. There isn’t a list of curtains you need but if they are like bright or crazy and you can see them from the outside you have to put blinds first. Not trying to be rude with this comment, just saying. :)

[@JokerL1000]

Why dont yall build new englamd houses

[@Udontkno7]

@@JokerL1000 They usually just...sink/become extremely moldy. New England homes aren't meant for swamps and sinkholes. And they don't match Florida's theme of thick, stout, and mostly flood proof concrete homes painted bright colors.

[@christinerubino8755]

We have plenty of palm trees here and I can buy whatever curtains I choose. Smh.

[@marciastruziatto4932]

Celebration is a beautiful place! It’s a life style.

[@mechasentai]

WTF? This is creepy.

[@Tom-vy3cb]

Moved here from the U.K. 3 years ago and I love living here. It’s a great place to live

[@troyevitt2437]

Well, you know occasionally dump tea in the harbor while dressed as indigenous natives, right?

[@ZebraLens]

I'm wondering if Celebration inspired the building of Disney's Golden Oak homes. I hope we could get information on that 😀

[@jjthomas2297]

Corporate Greed is what inspired the building of Golden Oak. Nothing more.

[@kgal1298]

JJ Thomas considering how Disney acquired so much land in Florida almost everything Disney does is motivated by money.

[@KyraHogue]

Will this be the way of Cotino?

[@ambskater97]

Cotino seems more like Golden Oak than Celebration, the former being just a residential area that's conveniently near the park, not an entire town with the phony image of perfection.

[@UmmYeahOk]

@@ambskater97 more like a Celebration that only Golden Oak residents could afford. Need a place to stay during hurricane season? Come out here to the desert!

[@kimballcrocferd9988]

People can not live in a theme park, sooner or later the real world comes knocking.

[@HappyChaosAMP]

Normally I hate when outside voices donan expose on celebration, as people, stories and details get botched. This hits in some accurate points. I lived there for essentially the beginning from 1998 when the school opened. My mother just moved out 18 years later. It had its problems. And it was far, very far, from Walt’s visions for Epcot. But it was great for people to live in Florida but not feel like they were in Florida. It was clean. It had charm. Sometimes it’s the simple things.

[@tylers6058]

I lived here and it’s really awesome, all of these issues are literally from when the town was first started initially, and now it’s really one of the best schools in the state

[@mkuti-childress3625]

It still looks like a great place to me! It’s beautiful, and it looks safe and clean. I’d live there if I had the opportunity!

[@jjthomas2297]

Was in Celebration recently and I was surprised at how old things looked. Peeling paint, roads that need resurfacing, etc. Not nearly as nice as the Truman Show. It looked like the whole place was in need of major maintenance.

[@themonkeyjungle871]

This is evidence that Walt's original idea of EPCOT would never work.

[@maemellow]

I live in celebration and it’s great, it isn’t that expensive for an apartment, everything’s pretty because there are literal laws saying how many flowers you can have in your front yard, and the colour of your mailbox. I love that buildings all fit in one aesthetic, like the mcdonald’s, 7-11, and disney buildings all have the same style. I went to the middle school (before i started homeschooling) and to get to the gym for pe, you have to cross a super long bridge that has railing and a roof that passes through a literal swamp/ forest. Almost no one is actually born here- in fact, i’ve never even met someone who was from here. Kissimmee -the city right next to celebration - is a complete shit hole, so it’s really nice to live in a beautiful bubble, and I live ELEVEN minutes away from disney. I could literally walk only 4 miles and i would be at main street in magic kingdom.

[@mr.fahrenheit7009]

Yes

[@michaelmccolgan3291]

No good has come from anyone moving to Florida it has devastated the state of Florida in every aspect as well as hurt the entire country very sad .