Celestion Creambacks - Demo

Celestion Creambacks FTW! Perfect blend of Greenback and Vintage 30.
Signal Chain:
Schecter SLS Baritone (Drop A#)
ProTone Misha OD
Peavey 6534+
Celestion Creambacks
Shure SM57 (2)
Logic Pro X
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[@gordontubbs]

I love my G12H30 70th Anniversary edition. Loaded that sucker into an oversized 1x12 and it's been the perfect recording cabinet ever since.

[@charlesrocks]

Just pulled the trigger on the Creambacks. Love the combination with them and the V30s.

[@1980hardhitter]

That moment when you are comparing two speakers finding that NO ONE is covering proper high gain clips and you realize you can always count on Fluff.

[@charlesrocks]

Yep.

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[@landrypreston284]

@Talon August instablaster :)

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[@Bognerman14]

Celestion tells me that Greenbacks are warmer still. however, I find the M65 Cream extremely warm. The H/M mix is great too.

[@Bognerman14]

I have Greenbacks in my 412 and while I am not a big high gain modern palm mute guy, they handle them fine. Greens are much warmer than Creambacks, but the Creams are still good. never understand when guys say a greenback can't handle high gain.

[@genghisghost]

they cant handle the wattage. Metal Amps are usually 120w

[@heythere6983]

That’s why back in the day they used full stacks

[@killjosh21]

Bass riff rips. Put me down for the M. Great job!

[@DiedrichKnickerbocker1783]

My new Orange Th30 loves Creambacks. Way to go Celestion.

[@ianalderman9290]

Alexis Machine I picked up a Dual Terror head with a PPC112 loaded with a Vintage 30, do you think the Creamback would help combat the fizz? I'm reserving judgment until my pickups get to me, gotta wait for Wade to wire them. I was thinking either a Creamback or Redback may help out.

[@kevinskater13]

Damn that bass tone is gnarly.

[@paulschenk4331]

fluff you would be my hero if you could do that second creamback video you were talking about with the v30 comparison/combo Im really interested in in mixing 2 h75's with my eng v30's in an early bogner 4x12 I have or replace them all together just can't pull the trigger without more out about the speakers

[@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio]

I always the G12M but these two blended sound perfect. The H gives the M that little kick it needs!

[@perryv.d.veekens3649]

Brutal bass tone!

[@dafxtone]

G12H=same magnet as the V30, it's why they sound similar...

[@NickGuitarMalfara13]

Don't know why, but the jam reminded me of Stone Sour haha.

[@alexrysham3668]

got the celestion G12M on my used Vox 1x12 G2 cab. got it like 100 USD only and the speaker is really delicious sounding when I got it. Maybe the previous owner played heavily on it already :) Paired it with my Ironheart, man, my tone quest is OVER. No more tone chasing ! xD

[@johnjeziorski461]

This convinced me to build the two into a cab I'm putting together. Nice!

[@kebbinator]

Just bare in mind that the G12M-65 is 3dB lower in sensitivity than the G12H-75, so the G12H-75 would overpower the other speaker in the cab quite substantially - especially at higher volume levels. It'd be better to mix them with speakers closer together in sensitivity, so the volume is a bit more even between the two speakers.

[@EasyHeat]

Sick tone on the baritone. Been wanting one for a while! Got limited funds being a new father. Was gonna roll the dice on an Agile 27" scale. Got one of their 3010 se LP's & am quite surprised with the quality/value. Really dig your videos BTW. Keep up the good work!

[@jhep1]

[@rgalvezmusic24]

Great that you add the EQ graphic!

[@monkeyxx]

Man fluff is on about a 2 or 3 here in the new videos he goes 10.0 on a regular basis! Fun to watch the evolution.

[@lorenkrug]

Have the Creamback 75 and Vintage 30 in a 2x12 open back cab... I stand and listen to the Creamback side... Very good

[@johnmate6199]

+lorenkrug that sounds sweet, maybe i'll try that. i run a open back 2x12 with 2 v30s but it sounds to low and compressed for me

[@SteveContreras]

Grrat sounding speakers. I liked the H better. I would be curious to see the comparison with these and the V30. cool tune btw...

[@tylerwolfe648]

Yeah maybe put a little bit of the lows back in, but I think the message was conveyed great anyway. Man, I think it's time to make my own cab.

[@ryantimmel6112]

When's the Vintage 30 Comparison Vid?

[@jsadctnfn1]

+Ryan Timmel ... I second this! I would REALLY like to hear a Vintage 30 comparison with each of these speakers. It's been over a year and 1/2! FLUFF!?

[@RunawayThumbtack]

Comment: I'm not too crazy about the intense low-mid scoops you did in the EQ; I suspect I probably would have halved the scoop at 176 and foregone the 370 altogether. Question: what do you think about the BOD?

[@hardrock4cover]

Thats a awesome sound you got there, those speakers sound awesome.

[@danieldemayo6209]

The bass sounds crazy

[@patrickmcintyre6967]

Just to add, the new Neo Creamback sounds great with the Orange TH 30 head in the Orange 1x12. Super light cab with the lightweight speaker. Bring it to a gig, lots of bass for a 1x12. Maybe compare the Neo with the other Creambacks? The Vintage 30 speaker is better if you're going to dial the eq to extremes, but if you keep your eq close to center anyway, the Neo is pretty cool.

[@JesterMasque]

A nice smooth, fat midrange in that G12H, almost reminiscent of the Classic Lead 80 with a bit more bite. I don't hear that strange V30 midrange curve in either one. I may pick one up and try it in my 2x12 with my CL80.

[@ericvalverderosado2046]

What if in one 2x12 cab i put a Greenback and a Creamback together? (Supously i have to hear both speakers in that cab no?)

[@starblaster77]

Great demo! Thanks.

[@MFKR696]

Those are some fine sounding cones.

[@1980hardhitter]

Have to go with the 65's here. Awesome video dude. Do you have any Scumback Vs. videos in your library?

[@monkeyxx]

they did sound good here

[@JayKonopka-crackedfracktal]

paired well together

[@cyanidejunkie]

the first clip had that, Keith merrow bark to it, love that tone. great vid ryan. be well.

[@jonathananthony1901]

Hey Fluff! In an open back, extra deep 2x12, would recommend a pair of these Creamback M & H. Or. An A-Type and a V-Type. Or. Vintage 30 and a G12t-75. ?

[@williammayer6829]

I'd use both one a-type and one v-type, match made in heaven!

[@joshjohnson4439]

Just in time i'm in the market for new speakers:)

[@jarekstepniak]

Cool demo

[@fadejmg]

Brutal! I`ve been waiting for a while a GOOD video with metal riffs on creambacks. Cheers from Argentina.

[@RunawayThumbtack]

I have a 65 Creamback in a 2x12 (the other is an international V30). I'm not crazy about it by itself (used to have it in a 1x12), but I wanted to see how it'd blend. I still haven't made up my mind.

[@LaurensHebberecht]

I think the bass cut in the post EQ was too much, to be honest. Sounds a little too thin in my opinion.

[@RunawayThumbtack]

While I agree with you, I'd attribute it more to the low-mid cuts than the HPF. That one at 176Hz was huge.

[@patrickgiles4996]

I have a 1960BV with G12H30 Anniversaries and a 1960AV with the stock Marshall Vintage Celestions. My heads are JCM2000 and Engl Fireball. I am disappointed with the Vintage speakers. The bottom end is loose and flabby, not much definition. The Anniversaries are way better. Wondering how they compare to the H75 Creambacks?

[@fauntpingu]

Dat bass sound!

[@luizfloripa]

isn´t the 75th anniversary the green back and v30´s baby?

[@jeffisrael3773]

I'd really like to hear a V30 A/B comparison. I have a V30 212 now, so it would be nice to see if these would possibly work better for me.

[@RunawayThumbtack]

I have a 2x12 with one Creamback 65 and one International V30 in it. I didn't quite like the Creamback by itself in a 1x12, and I'm still undecided on how it blends with the V30 (which remains a safe choice).

[@nyhotetotniknezaniat]

What sense do a demonstration and distort the sound using the equalizer?

[@monkeyxx]

Nice speakers. Check out WGS also. Much more affordable but similar, almost a 2 for 1 price difference.

[@MyRandyRhoads]

love your feeling !

[@AlanScottBand]

I think the differences between these 2 speakers was not very clear. Compressed higher gain tones with reduced mids double tracked can make things sound homogenous. Great production and playing, but perhaps clips showing where a particular speaker excels would be more informative.

[@Egdral]

dat bass !!

[@MilitantOldLady]

I love the sloppy bass in the fore ground.

[@LeeronCarbuncle]

That's Suuuuuuuper tight for Bb. holy shit.

[@madjoker8]

The magic of the Baritone guitar my friend

[@TankDriverOriginal]

Hi Fluff, would you recommend the M Creambacks instead of the Vintage 30s for heavy music? And do you use them in an over sized cab? Thanks!

[@monstruonegro05]

I finally bought both! Gow would you put them in a vertical 2x12? the G12M65 up or down positioned?

[@Darth.Shredder]

I assume you solved this months ago but for anyone else reading... in my vertical 2x12 I put the M65 on top and a G12H Anniversary on bottom. The M65 is 97db vs the H75 or in my case the G12H Anniversary which are both 100db, so the M65 pushes slightly less volume plus having it up top helps tame some of the highs of the H75 or in my case, the H Anniversary. Same with the upper mid spike of a V30.

[@diogomattana7914]

Hey dude, do you happen to know the cone code on the H75? I can't find any info on it (For the reissues)... Thank you, great demo

[@leonledbetter5346]

Have you tried the g12m-65s and g12h-75s in an x pattern in a 4x12? I currently have 2 g12m-65s and 2 g12t-75s and was wondering about pulling the 75s and trying the g12h-75s.

[@Rooster7six]

What cab did you run them in? And you never went with these right? Still using Vintage 30's right?

[@Oblivion4pcand360]

Dat bass doe

[@FCGUITAR]

Hey hippy! Love this!

[@kellyjackson7889]

Hi Laura! 8^)

[@kellyjackson7889]

***** lol

[@alengregorin8366]

the H sounds close to eminence P50 and the eminence tone in general...

[@heut4384]

Great tune as always when Ryan plays. However, I just find the harmony part(s) a bit out of place. IMO, it needs to be done in a different key, because the minute the harmony comes in, it creates a sort of...awkward sound and feel to it. When I first heard the song, I'm like...hmmmmm....Ryan always plays some kick ass tunes...but there's just something about the harmony that just doesn't quite sit with me. LOL. The more I listen to it, the more I'm realizing, "it's those darn harmonies...they're awkward choices and don't quite match the composition. WAIT!!! this is just my opinion guys. Just say'n I would not have used those keys...and would prefer a sweeter blend of the harmonies.

[@Bognerman14]

Ryan, check out the Creamback 75s and the Lynchbacks. The Lynchbacks are a better Creamback! -Rich

[@loicmaiden]

+Rich Veeck It hard to find some reviews of the Lynchbacks! But i've heard recently the Lynchback is the perfect mix between greenback, creamback and V30 What do you think about that?

[@Bognerman14]

+loicmaiden yes....I love the Lynchbacks but I also love, love Creams. I have a V30 cab, plus a Greenback and Lynchback cab, plus finally a cab mixing the M65 and H75. I love having variety. :)

[@loicmaiden]

What are the differences between the Lynchbacks and H75 or V30?

[@shatlin1988]

Ive got the g12h100's they sound awsome

[@shatlin1988]

Ive heard good things about those to the 100's have a gritty sound i like em though

[@Stillblissstudios]

Your vidz rock Ryan!!

[@garrettboomerbender]

I'm thinking about ordering an avatar 2x12 with a Creamback 75 and a Vintage 30 should I do it?

[@tpcjames111]

That would be a good combo, I had two creambacks in my cab while they give a really big sound the mids are warm and unfocused which makes mixing with the v30 perfect.

[@thomascoolberth2648]

Same as James .. 2 creambacks in my Avatar .... I'm thinking not the best set up for high gain, down tuned metal. These creambacks sell for big $$$ on the used market so .. so maybe I'll swap and sell them.

[@ZaneKornaylus]

What pickups are those? P90s?

[@MICKEYISLOWD]

WHAT IS THE jIMMY CLIP TINGY ON THE HEADSTOCK FOR PLS?

[@MB-yw3pv]

GETTING RID OF EXCESS STING VIBRATION TO QUIET YOUR TONE AND KEEP LESS BACKGROUND NOISE

[@Luxorcist]

Hey Fluff, I just got a Mesa Triple Rectifier, and im using a Randall 4x12 cab with Jaguar Speakers, I don't know much about them, and i've never really experimented with other speakers, but i don't think theyre the best speakers i could be using. What would you suggest as a replacement?

[@Luxorcist]

***** I had a strong feeling you were going to say that :) Thanks for your input!

[@Luxorcist]

***** one more question, when choosing Speakers, what impedance should i get? i see 8 and 16ohm V30s and i have no idea which ones to get.

[@ryanjohnson7161]

Luxorcist in think 8 is good but 16 would work since u have a 16 ohms output

[@Luxorcist]

Ryan Johnson Alright cool, thanks :)

[@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur]

They are not relabeld G100's or classic lead 80,S?

[@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur]

I know they're not. But if you think of it... Maybe old wine in new bottles.

[@edwardcullenhotass]

Frans van den Berge Not at all, man. Different cone. Different voice coil. Made in England too.

[@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur]

Thanks Hugo.

[@sportaciss9282]

+Hugo Welti They are only made in England if they are one of the models in their Heritage series. the G12M-65/H75 shown here are Chinese made. Still great speakers tho.

[@edwardcullenhotass]

+Sportaciss Not true. The Creambacks are made in England. The G12EVH's are English too. Check this: mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/parlante-para-guitarra-celestion-g12m-65-creamback-746901-MLA20428097708_092015-F.jpg

[@BlvckjvckRecordings]

Would the M65 or the H75 be better suited for open back cabs?

[@mattz1686]

BooooLLLth. Red vs blue anyone?

[@NightOfTheLiving8bit]

It’d be great if we could actually hear them in a natural environment, not in a mix or tracked.

[@J3richoproductions]

im not sure that was the best name to call them haha.

[@jaychen2000metal]

J3richoproductions lol

[@bmwagain]

this sucks

[@markjovanelli2607]

garbage guitar sound and musical taste doesn't matter what speaker's used, such nonsense

[@MichaelDespairs]

really bad riffs. like not good.

[@irockuroll60]

Why are you shaking your head? Is your boyfriend asking if you want more doughnuts?

[@reneotten2288]

Did he give you good head? Give me his phone number please.

[@ImAFuckinDevil666]

Kick his ass Fluff!

[@serpentenmplum]

Too much distortion and fx, where the fuck is the creamback... nice playing bad review.

[@beanotraffini681]

Seriously: at these levels of (mega) distortion, any speaker has all the dynamic range of a crap pair of earbuds- an almost complete waste of time...

[@SteveContreras]

Grrat sounding speakers. I liked the H better. I would be curious to see the comparison with these and the V30. cool tune btw...