Celestion V30 - First Year and Month - March 1986 - Will BLOW YOU AWAY!

I'm playing a Marshall 50W Plexi reissue through 2 Celestion Marshall Vintage speakers (V30) from March 1986! This is as far as have been able to tell the earliest Vintage 30s I have seen. The sound completely unreal! Like a a G12H greenback but with the dynamics of a V30. I'm using 2008 Gibson Les Paul R9.

[@mgalbu]

Amazing, Johan! Very impressive. I would have not guessed these were V30s. I hope you make a video comparing them with newer production examples ;)

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Max! I will. Cheers

[@RjRocker80]

This is why the metal in the 80s sounded so good. I've tried to get these tones many times with modern vintage 30s and they just don't sound the same.

[@gumbilicious1]

Agreed, there is no way a 40 yo speaker sounds like a new one. Just like a 40 yo tire won’t handle like a new one

[@TheChadPad]

@@gumbilicious1well they weren’t 40 years old when they were recorded. That’s besides his point

[@gumbilicious1]

@@TheChadPad they were 40 years old when this recording was made and that is what people are commenting on, they weren't commenting on recordings of these speakers from 40 years ago, so your comment is 'besides my point'.

[@TheChadPad]

@@gumbilicious1 yes, the op here was commenting on recordings of these speakers from 40 years ago. “This is why the metal in the 80s sounded so good.”

[@gumbilicious1]

@@TheChadPad my bad, I guess it is in bad taste to comment on the audio actually played in the video rather than a reference to recording that were not played in the video. But my comment still stands, those speakers played on the video would have sounded quite different 40 years ago

[@PXR5-PXR5]

Omg!! They sound so raw! Really brings out the tone from the Plexi/Les Paul. Super riffings too.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks, really glad you like it!

[@jcoulter43]

Mind blown! Another reason the 80's was the best decade 😁. Sounding amazing as usual Tone Maestro! God bless and rock on 👍😎🎸

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks man! Great to hear that! Rock on! 🎸👍

[@FlankinspanK]

Your riffs are always so full of energy

[@tyremanguitars]

I can definitely hear more a greenback like tone there, sounds very good compared to modern V30s.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks, glad to hear it

[@loubydal7812]

Simply superb speakers! Definitely the 80s decade was a big step up for amps, guitars and a lot of gear. Loved the brief "flamenco passage" soloing, you really have a good playing repertoire. Thanks Johan!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Glad to hear that!

[@chrisdee5032]

You can tell just how excited Johan is about these in the intro and I'm not surprised, they sound phenomenal!

[@alanst.4417]

Finally a V30 I like the sound of, been waiting for this moment quite some time... Btw you've been very productive lately, Johan. You make videos faster than I make it to watch them 😂 Can't imagine how much work is behind that 👏

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Alan! Yeah equal parts work and fun behind each video! Glad you’re watching them!

[@ianorourke6320]

Definitely has a smoothness yet just as aggressive. They rip for sure

[@eddieholmes3236]

Wow, incendiary! So much punch! Thanks Johan.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks man, have a great stay in Sweden!🇸🇪

[@JockeLundgrenTV]

Helvete! Helt otroligt. Tack Johan! 👌🏻👌🏻

[@siegfriedwashburn3484]

Hi, Johan! This a nice sentence: every year something changes, but still I am playing on my old stuff. Its good.. See you! Zig

[@JohanSegeborn]

Cheers Siegfried!

[@DMSProduktions]

Privet droogi!

[@cary67]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge, Johan. I truly love your channel. I've been hoping you would cover these. I have four of them loaded in a vintage Ampeg V-4 4x12 cab. It's a prized possession for sure. Example of one of my speaker codes: B V 23 20

[@thechannelforeverything2170]

Sounds fierce. Great playing 👍

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Glad to hear it

[@kingnick6260]

Very nice! I just checked the codes on my Marshall Vintage speakers and they read LU, for November 1986. I actually much prefer my Celestion G12-65’s from 1978 and G12H-30 Blackbacks from 1977 over these

[@darrinhowse2399]

I thought 65’s weren’t introduced until later. I was trying to determine if they could have been used on a few albums in 78/79. I thought it wasn’t possible until now. That would be very cool. What is the date code on your 65’s?

[@deadsoundradio]

Wow! Here I thought the Vintage 30 was born with Rock n Roll in the 50s!!! Good stuff as always Johan!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Great to hear that

[@mikedennis6979]

The v30 reminds me of my original black back 30w from the 70's. To my ears they are much raspier than any green back I've ever played thru. They were a great match for the early master volume heads. Cheers

[@JohanSegeborn]

Yeah blackback is indeed a better comparison. Cheers!

[@wabbadu1]

Something tells me you're going to get a lot of offers to buy that cabinet for top $$. That sound is incredible!

[@ferranmelero7727]

Awesome sounds

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks!

[@Twobarpsi]

I love the V30 sound!

[@odgeUK]

I had an original 1987 Marshall Silver Jubilee full stack back in 2005, with V30 loaded cabs, and I swear they sounded very different to any V30s I've played since. I put it down to cone age, but perhaps they were just better. More Gnarly, mid-range grind and without that high end fizz that gets on your nerves with the V30s people use today.

[@BcBaxley]

Hell Yeah 😎🍻🤘

[@dominikpohli2381]

this spealers sound very great

[@sebastianengbeerg]

Want to se more fane. Best channel!

[@MrNEWDY]

Scored a mode four oversized marshall 412 loaded with these and I will never sell it. Sounds nearly identical to this. Managed to snag it for $400 USD.

[@darrellminx5459]

Damn great speaker. It's got it all and I am sure it cleans up well too. Cheers Johan. Aloha from Hawaii... Darrell

[@TheOtherJohnBrowne]

My V30 senses were tingling! Great score! My earliest ones are from May 1986. I have one V30s from February 1986 too. It has the regular Celestion Vintage 30 BUT it has the Maeshall T3896 type code for some reason so likelya "transition model"

[@JohanSegeborn]

Cool how does those two speakers compare?

[@TheOtherJohnBrowne]

@@JohanSegeborn Hard to say based on my setup. The February one seems to be more in line with yours in this video while the ones from May sound more in line with the typical V30 sound to me

[@BlueHouseSoundStudio]

So you have “vintage 30” labeled one from 86? If so wow! I have a vented Marshall vintage from 86 in an artist 30

[@lousekoya1803]

Hello Johan , I know that the Silver Jubilee was made around this speaker and that you had to pay extra in 1987 to have a cab loaded with those here in Montreal only on order . The stores here ordered the half or full stacks with G12T-75' s or G12-70 's so they would sell more with the lower price but nobody knew at the time. Tthe Jubilee head was voiced around the G12 Vintage speakers and even today , it's not a known fact but they were meant to go together.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Yeah Jubilee cabs with V30 and T75 are indeed worlds apart cheers!

[@Gibson1967SG]

I've seen Marshall V30's as early as July 1985, FYI.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Do you have any references you can share? If I have a good reference I’ll adjust the video title accordingly

[@BlueHouseSoundStudio]

Never seen them myself… mine is a vented Marshall vintage from 86.

[@brozio77]

wonderful mate! i think 444 cone has a lot to do with this creamyness.

[@fritzhieke7209]

Can you please a comparsion between Friedman Twin Sister and Plex?! Love your channel!

[@rebeldedelsur8830]

Celestion V30 - First Year and Month - March 1986 - Will BLOW YOU AWAY!....................NO exaggeration!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Really good to hear that! Thanks!

[@hkguitar1984]

I've an early pair of Vintage 30s in a 2x12 Cab I use with my 1987x, I finally had to swap them out for Greenbacks because they were just too loud! Looking forward to your comparisons between early and modern V30s.

[@JohanSegeborn]

I think I play both here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZzJh5trpsaapdE The new isn’t the Marshall version though

[@hkguitar1984]

@@JohanSegeborn Much appreciated Johan, Thank You

[@robindesbons]

I have the same : two V30 from 1986 (verified with the serial number). This two loudspeackers are in a combo 100 watts MOSFET, I think it's the 5213. The sound is so good, very fat ! We can't ear that in this demo because the sound of Johan is often arsh and seems a little bit out of tune here but the sound is really full and faaaaaaat !!!

[@donsmith5385]

I know you may not be in to drop tuning, but they that can in c# tuning. That is the magic tone.!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Cool! I’m gonna try that! Thanks for the info

[@nitraus666]

I also have a 1986 V30. I really don't like modern V30s (too harsh/spikey), but these old ones rule!

[@adamwatson6916]

I don't hear anythng radcially different from the Modern day Marshall G12 Vintage. They do sound radically diferent from a standard production V30 but the Marshall vintage is and always was a different beast .. The tones in this video sound like my Jubilee 2 by 12 cab.

[@waterbuffalo4225]

Im surprised you haven't tried the Bogner Ecstasy 101b on your channel. Considered one of the greatest amps ever made. Hope you consider it

[@coryharris8417]

There are some 1985s out there. They have the vented pole.

[@victorbeebe8372]

Aloha Johan! I had a late 80's Marshall combo that had a Vintage 30 in it. I miss that amp! Now I'm thinking a Germino, Suhr or the new Freidman. That's if I have any money left over the addition to the house.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Aloha Victor! Well that’s three killer brands for sure

[@victorbeebe8372]

@@JohanSegeborn I called all three companies and Germino was the only one that called me back right away as in minutes. Had a nice conversations with Gregg. If can afford a top dollar amp it probably be his.

[@auntjenifer7774]

​@@victorbeebe8372😂 yeah don't expect none of that from Friedman ! You will wait years at least 2 to hear back from Dave Friedman 😂

[@Poly6Groove]

That’s the first time I’m hearing the V30 as it should be! Without that infamous spikey annoying frequency

[@clarencevue8076]

Please Johan, make a comparison between a 70s jmp and a Peavey Butcher 120W head original... I'm lookin for this amp and my reference is a 100w JMP SuperLead mk2. I've heard that this two amps are really similar... Thanks for the videos, I'm a big fan ! Clarence from France

[@BlueHouseSoundStudio]

Perhaps they just aged differently? I have 7 of these from 1987 and 1 from 1986… The 86 is vented! And from an Artist 30. I haven never seen one earlier than 86 but I am not too impressed with the modern 16ohm Marshall vintage’s.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Yeah the condition of the speakers really matter some can sound dull and less dynamic over time

[@cechichan]

Hey man ! I saw ne of your videos using the ps2a. I have it ordered as well (1 month waiting for stock) and the ps100 is in stock and was thinking what if, Do you think/know if the ps100 is worth it over the ps2a ? From my research, the differences would be, more watts which i wont use, the extra channel which u cant use 2 amp at the same time anyway from my understanding so not very useful for me, and it also doesnt have 6l6s. So im thinking that the ps2a is actually the one for me. Any guidance please sir? always love your videos !!!

[@Timbiscuit12]

Wow. Not a metal guy really, but that was absolutely unbelievable tone. I am just amazed. Marshall on 1000mg of steroids. Just way more bite on the top and sizzle in the lows and middle. I wonder if this speaker would sound ok clean?

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! It really does with the right amp

[@rockzilla5150]

Sounds like a blend of modern V30 and Greenback.

[@vintagetone22]

Hello king.👍🙏🙏🌹🌹🎸🎸

[@JohanSegeborn]

Cheers!

[@victor2510]

Which cab model is that? The size seems perfect for a vertical 2x12

[@JohanSegeborn]

That’s a 1970 Marshall 2x12 model number 1972B

[@JGStonedRaider]

Went down the "The Other John Browne" V30 rabbit hole a few months ago. Now in proud possession of 1x 1993 V30 that sound incredible. Sold the 2x Chinese V30's (UK sound no better) and traded them for G12-65 Heritage.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Cool! Yeah he has made a great contribution to the community with his investigations

[@ac81017]

Interesting! Do vintage speakers vary in sound depending on how much they have been used/played?

[@JohanSegeborn]

They need about 40-60 hours of loud playing to be broken in. After that it’s all downhill though

[@ac81017]

@@JohanSegeborn Ah very interesting! I bought a Fender Vibrolux from 1979 in mint condition, the guy i bought it from had only used it no more than 2 hours since he bought it back in 79. I handed it in to Mattias for new caps and a blackface mod, he didn't do the mod, he said it sounds amazing as it is. Your welcome to borrow it and try it for yourself. Cheers

[@gumbilicious1]

I have a bunch of old speakers, they are awesome. But there is a problem comparing a 40 year old speaker with a newer one. 40 years of aging affects the spider, suspension, surround, cone, doping, glue… pretty much everything. There is no way this sounds like a new speaker, because it doesn’t even sound like itself from 40 years ago

[@NINEWALKING]

There are few versions of V30. Some of them aren’t my cup of tea. Early once and Mesa Bogie once are more similar to old speakers. Even today they make two versions. One for amplifier building companies and those are made in UK. The other once are made in China. China speakers, especially the 16 Ohm version, are more scooped and have more top end. Some people like them more for very high gain modern applications. Once made for Mesa Bogie have more middle tones and sound better for the classic rock and early metal. Best of them are first year models. One thing has to be said. V30 speakers might not have as complex sound as some speakers but they are meant for the professional use. At lover level they do not compress at all and might sound to bright. Especially in the isolation at the lower levels with a Marshall amplifiers they might sound shrill. But once you get the full blast sound on the stage in the band environment you will get it. They will cut true the mix and with the volume they will compress and become smoother. Marshall amps at full blast introduce compression at all stages of the amplifier and then they sound better as well. So professional stuff. You will be heard. They are not boutique stuff. There are better speakers for that application. But for stadium gigs V30 simply work. Same rig at lower volume might be just shrill and way to bright. Though once everything is at 11 you will get it. V30 can do one more thing as well. Totally opposite to above mentioned application. If you have muddy cheap amplifier V30 will bring it to life. Even at low volume such amplifier will sound better. Connect it to boutique amplifier and your ears might bleed from the top end before the compression kicks in. So for every amplifier it’s crucial to find speaker that makes it work for you.

[@irishRocker1]

17th of March? St Patrick's day V30 lol

[@goobiecaro8135]

I think they are a different spec to Celestion's V30. Marshall Vintage are 70 watts and 99db. Celestion V30's are 60 watts and 100db. Not sure on EQ range.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Interesting didn’t know about the different efficiencies

[@TheChadPad]

I bet you it’s the speaker cones man. They just don’t make em like they used to

[@leiferickson3183]

Someone recently listed some early vintage 30's locally and the frames are black???

[@JohanSegeborn]

Interesting, do you have a link?

[@leiferickson3183]

@@JohanSegeborn I went to look and they were gone. I think they were asking silly high money for them. I think they were in a marshall 4x12 and they said these were stock.

[@leiferickson3183]

If you search "Black Frame Vintage 30" there is a 9 year old sold listing that shows a couple.

[@DMSProduktions]

Interesting, but never saw the appeal of this type! \m/

[@JohanSegeborn]

Cheers DMS

[@DMSProduktions]

@@JohanSegeborn Still sounded good.

[@josephpickard3108]

I've had so many V30s and none of them sound the same. Not sure what they're putting in the Harley Benton cabs at the minute, they literally have no clean sound

[@RDembowski]

I just can't buy that the G12 Vintage are the same as Vintage 30... The midrange is so different from each other

[@JohanSegeborn]

I think they are different specs too, but there is conflicting info on that

[@BlueHouseSoundStudio]

No one has ever compared a Marshall vintage from 86 and a vintage 30 from 86… both I have seen are vented. The “vintage 30” from 86 is a bigger mystery to me because I have seen far more “Marshall vintages” I have 1 from 86 vented and 7 from 87

[@AnusMacMuffin]

Hi Johan. I own 2 of these with the date code being "BU26" (February, 1986,26). They were installed in a Marshall 5213 Solid State Combo. I believe they were the stock speakers in that amp.