Cellidor or Alox, which is the best MiniChamp

[@ronniefoster5099]

Love my Alox. It is getting pretty beat up from use, but nothing has broken. I am a mechanic and use it all the time for various tasks.

[@anonymousprole8367]

Thanks for the look Tobias, I love the look of the emergency blade!

[@tomweingart2337]

The Alox may be a better looking knife but my choice is the Cellador!

[@mangojack1]

Awesome stuff, I love Victorinox knives. I used to have the mini champ on my keychain but swapped it out for the signature lite a while back. I need to grab an alox down the road, they are just nice looking. My next purchase will probably be the midnight manager I think. Decisions..... Decisions lol Thanks Tobias 👍

[@WilliamsKnifeLife]

I wasn't aware of the mini-champ. Just one more knife to add to the never ending list of "Knives to Get".😆

[@WilliamsKnifeLife]

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[@KnifeDetector]

Cute little guys!! I must admit, I usually consider those too small for my liking, but I use my classic quite a bit, especially when I am changing the battery on some of my watches.

[@Tilbily]

Great video, again. Got a kick out of the Case cloth in your jacket pocket 8)

[@Cam-001]

Absolutely love my mini champ, and carry it daily, with jeans it easily sits in my watch pocket of “5th pocket” or in my scrubs when I’m working on my leg pocket, but still on me everyday. Might be one of my favorite edc items. And they definitely are not “to think” to carry, it disappears in any pocket.

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

The only "to think" about aspect of a small SAK is why on earth would you not carry one! The only reason I can come up with is because it is illegal to have it on you in a specific situation (going to court!)

[@tareqm.arslan6670]

Cellidor is nice to have and good to use >>>> Alox is nice to have and sweet to keep :)

[@mrc2205]

Hi. The pharmacy scoop was probably originally used for scooping powder into paper like you’re cigarette papers. Around the 60’s and into the 70’s and way before. A pharmacy would sell aspirin and so on in paper sachets. If you can remember a brand like Bex used to have the sachets of aspirin, you would get like 10 in a box. You would just take one out and pour it into your mouth and wash it down. I witnessed this when I was a teenager where I worked. A lady I worked with would take a Bex like that every day at lunchtime. This was in Australia

[@TwinGunz]

I think an updated video would be awesome, with the midnite minichamp. Which out of the 3 is my preferred mini champ. Would love to see a 3 way review on all 3 minichamps!!!!!

[@WilliamParmley]

That red alox is gorgeous! I have the celidor version and I appreciate having the pen and tweezers, but the alox looks so nice.

[@michaelbuddy]

great video, great intro-outro. you had me fooled at first looked like a real old silent movie clip.

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Glad you liked it!

[@scottmcintosh2988]

I like these little knives and your incite on them as always , thanks !

[@BigRedEDC]

Cellidor is just classic SAK but I really like the look of the Alox!! Thanks Tobias!!

[@LarsRibe]

I lost my Rambler somehow and I want to get another one. Because it is the perfect small EDC for me.. but now I am considering the Midnight Manager

[@davidkurle5418]

Sometimes I prefer cellidor, sometimes alox, just depends on which model the knife is. On the mini champ, I think I like the alox a little bit better. I also think it would be great if they would make an alox version of some of their 111mm knives, I would love to have an alox trekker. Thanks, Tobias!

[@mikehook2835]

Those are awesome. I’m a 91mm guy mostly, my champ is a tank lol. Thanks for an awesome video

[@bdh3949]

Very true Tobias, alox being so much thinner & lighter but I think stronger is a great choice. However I have saved time on numerous occasion when I needed a pen and I had my own and need not waited. I have the cellidor version and have carried it often. However I recently acquired a Signature Lite in Sliver Tech which is a Classic SD but has the pen and a nifty bright little light in it. Perfect for a keychain knife as you know and now with a light (but not tweezers nor toothpick).

[@WizenThorne]

Thanks for the video, especially the measurements!!!

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

No problem! Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@dougadams7684]

Very informative, think I'm going to add knife on my keychain now ,especially one with pen. I'm always looking for one and can't find

[@jock-of-ages73]

I'm on my 3rd Mini-Champ and they've all been celador. I really like the Alox model. I think i'll look into getting one. In the piece of paper i got in the box with the knife, they said that the pharmacy scoop thing, is a 'cuticle pusher', why anyone would do that is beyond me, I think they just made it up. PS. Opening the bottle opener/Philips driver helps when using the slide out pen, same thing when it comes to sharpening, the extra length gives better control, especially writing.✌

[@Berb4336]

They wanted to not retire the pharmacy pill sorter so they renamed it. You can find uses for it, and if you’re into it it’s a great cocaine spoon

[@timsummers870]

I read somewhere that the Classic is the most popular model among women. Maybe they thought the Mini Champ would be just as popular among that group when they designed it. However, I believe the Mini Champ ended up being more appealing to men. Perhaps Victorinox's marketing was a little flawed when they named this tool. It's no wonder they have other names for it as well.

[@1sakguy]

I carry the MiniChamp all the time. It is my favorite knife, the one I carry has both toothpick and tweezers. I carry the one with pen and light when I want to be a minimalist.

[@practicalknifereviews1600]

That emergency blade is great! Definitely could do a tracheotomy with that ;)

[@uiopuiop3472]

but the question is, do you want to

[@name5949]

I'm after a new little tool for my key chain and it's going to be one of those to buy the way i really like the end of this video 😊

[@jesterskull38]

I still need to get me both of those, thanks for sharing

[@tips4smartliving311]

these blades are very handy and sometimes can be life saving. I always wear one with me and will buy one for my father as his older one got lost.

[@albertoneri5427]

cellidor all my life: tweezers and the pen are too useful to bend me on the cooler side of the alox

[@STUFFWEDO]

Thank you for the comparison but I am a classic sd man.

[@diluteduk]

Alox looks better but I like to have the extra tools that come with the cellidor

[@enricoflor3601]

I hear the ruler with the small prying end are still pharmacist's tools: to pop open vials, and to measure powder or liquid in a vial. In such a litigious world, Victorinox wised up and avoided naming its product and tools to imply usage abetting illicit use 😁

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

I can see that.

[@rustyknifelover4463]

Tobias, I really like Swiss Army Knives. Victorinox Alox Pioneer X is my favorite.

[@emmanueldecruz]

I think the spatula is actually a cuticle pusher. (according to the victorinox spec sheet.)

[@alexw1544]

I'd have to go with the alox. Looks cooler and that emergency blade is awesome. Thanks Tobias!

[@timsummers870]

The cellidor one comes with the same tools, to include the emergency blade.

[@markcoffman494]

Tobias, I would love to lend you some vintage victorinox knives for your reviews.

[@timsummers870]

I use the spatula, aka cuticle pusher, to scoop lip balm from the tube when it falls below the tube line. It works as a spoon and it's been useful many times. On the issue of cellidor vs alox, although alox looks better and stronger, cellidor offers more tools that I wouldn't wanna give up, such as the pen + tweezers or pen + light, depending on the model. I've used that pen so many times that I've had to replace it at least twice.

[@kathys53]

The "spatula" can be used as a larger flat head screwdriver.

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Good idea! Thanks for pointing that out!

[@skipcallaham1517]

I just ran into a situation where my tom cat pulled a bit of caulking from the shower. I decide to go ahead and pull out a couple feet of the old caulk and the knife in my pocket at the time was the Mini Champ. That little "orange peeler" blade was just awesome in removing the caulk.

[@DJSerjaySvek]

I got the Alox Mini Champ recently. If only they still kept making the red Alox ones because I don't want to keep getting silver Alox, haha. If I were to recommend a knife to someone who is new to knives and wants only something keychain sized, I would say they get the Mini Champ. Sure, the Classic SD is more portable, but the Mini Champ packs so much more in such a tiny frame in my opinion. More so if they get the cellidor ones. But I just like Alox so much more.

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Mini Champ, especially in Alox is a good choice but I think the Rambler has the most practical blade options of the 58 mm line up. I'm definitely with you on the red alox over silver.

[@DJSerjaySvek]

@@KnifeChatswithTobias Points well taken. Now that I think about it, the Rambler is a more practical choice for a starter. I confess that I spend more time try to think of ways to use the tools in the Mini Champ, but I like the challenger. The problem was that Ramblers are rare in my country and I do not want a Manager; I prefer bigger pens. If they can make an Alox Rambler, and in red, that will be a hit for me.

[@JohnSmith-dd1ew]

I've got both. Really like the Alox, but like the Celidor as well. Not a fan of the pen but it's easy enough to change the scales.

[@timsummers870]

Seriously? That pen has saved me numerous times.

[@SubUrbanNinja-EDC]

If I had to pick a mini, I would go with the Mini Swiss Champ Midnight...that has the flashlight. I'm for the most tools as possible even if I have to sacrifice a little carry comfort. I do love how the Alox look though.

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Makes Sense. Thanks for your thoughts!

[@rickkerans8485]

That was interesting. Not sure about spatula blade. Actually liked the midnight manager best but that wasn't the comparison. Oh well .

[@2371Anita]

I have the cellidor mini champ. But I am on the look out for the alox. It appeals more to me.

[@prh8068]

I think that the MiniChamp is a little bit of a gimmick. Sure, it has a lot of tools, but how many are really useful? I have a Rambler on my keychain and my most frequently used tools on it are the nail file, scissors, and toothpick. The Midnight Manager would be a good choice but I also have a very tiny keychain flashlight that is much brighter. My flashlight and Rambler combined only weigh 1.54 oz, which I think is still less than the MiniChamp. The only thing that I don't have is a writing tool.

[@SandShark350]

I use all of the tools on the minichamp 🤷‍♂️

[@jeroenvoss6231]

I really liked this video, most populair ass-saving knives in the world!

[@mattbowman3641]

My minichamp lives on my keyring and i went with alox just because it's alot slimmer in the pocket

[@mattadams1024]

Definitely a fan of the Alox, might because I’m more drawn to it because of the handle material with them being metal.

[@anarchyfox325]

Tobias. Well howdy friend I has one on right saved my butt few times hell I forgot my usual pocket knife only had that tiny thing but it got job done and cleaned squirrel for pot excellent tools too great for my whittling spoons and forks from branches blades can get and hold razor sharp edge too important for carving 🦊🐾🇬🇧👍🔪⚔️

[@uiopuiop3472]

i love cleaning my pot with them too

[@MH-ls1xi]

Decisions decisions victorinox makes it so hard

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

That they do!

[@WhiteDean45]

I'd prefer a toothpick and tweezers. In alox.

[@FreedomFox1]

I have the classic lite in transparent blue. Very handy, especially the pen. I’m especially impressed by how great the scissors work, given their size... I can see why Victorinox fans rave about them. Can you recommend any smooth bone knives with scissors? (I know, not the typical scout pattern.)

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

I carry a similar knife on my key chain. As for bone handled knives with scissors -- Case makes a few small knives with scissors but most often the bone is jigged. The scissors don't work as well the ones on a Classic, either.

[@FreedomFox1]

@@KnifeChatswithTobias Thanks, I’ll check out those Case knives. Since I began watching your videos, I’ve particularly fallen for the smooth bone (white, black and other colors) and nickel silver combo.

[@jimmyj4811]

I like the Alox.

[@brandenp1187]

I love my classic sd signature

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

I carry that one on my keys. So very useful!

[@Eliel7230]

Oh boy ! This is getting to be a fun habit ! I just picked up another sak alox ! 😁

[@erikramaekers63]

Some strange tools :) I like the Classic SD.It has everything i need.I always carry a pen too.You may not agree with me but the Classic in alox is very close to perfect

[@uiopuiop3472]

classic sd. sd card not inside

[@johnossendorf9979]

After EDCing my Swiss Champ since I bought it in 1985, neither of these have the functionality to tempt me away from the SAK I'v carried for 36 years.

[@RandomDude45_X]

I always called the spatula a Cocaine bumper. That is def a better name lol

[@slick_slicers]

I’d like a midnight manager Jetsetter for my keychain. The knife blade is unnecessary, and gives rise to too many problems these days. A keychain needs to be able to go anywhere I go, and I can always leave my pocketknife in the car when necessary.

[@ImaginaryEvil]

Curious, what do you mean gives rise to too many problems?

[@slick_slicers]

@@ImaginaryEvil in the U.K. there are too many places where any knife is banned. Schools, pubs, government buildings, airports etc., but I can always leave my knife in the car and take my Jetsetter with me. I have a few gadgets, and especially scissors, without an problems.

[@ImaginaryEvil]

@@slick_slicers oh I see, yes that makes sense. I didn't realise that "legal carry" knives were excluded in so many places

[@ImaginaryEvil]

@@slick_slicers I just looked at the jetsetter, it's a bit sparse. Adding a FH screwdriver would be nice, along with maybe some mini pliers

[@slick_slicers]

@@ImaginaryEvil hence I’d like a bladless Minichamp!

[@felinebline7154]

The Red cel is my choice. So many of the colored metal products looks beat up fast. Mean while Red Cel keeps on looking good. I like the feel too.

[@Smaug1]

I considered the Minichamp; it has a lot of loyal fans. However, I went with the Manager in the end. Like you, I use a toothpick a lot more often than a tweezers, so I did the same thing. With the Manager, you lose some of that excess thickness, but still retain the most useful tools. Check it out!

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

Yep! The Manager is the rambler with more useful scales. The MiniChamp has a lot of cool blades that never get used!

[@SandShark350]

That Phillips is magnetic.

[@user-ov4um8uk6u]

Good video Tobias. I am with you on the tooth pick as opposed to tweezers as I use the toothpick almost daily and rarely use a tweezer. But most of my Victorinox have both. I was looking at mini champ in Alox but I think I'll pass now after this video. I have moved from a 58mm on the keys to using the 74mm executive and have been carrying it for perhaps the last 4 months. The reason I switched was that executive has probably the best file and nail cleaner of the bunch. I also enjoy the longer and slightly bigger scissors on the executive. I generally have my backpack at work and in that I usually have a climber or an explorer, but always my mini champ. I have it for that pen as you do, a just in case pen. When you flip out that file it works just fine. But thanks for saving me a Grant on that mini champ in Alox as it just won't be better than what I'm rolling currently. Another great video Tobias and you have a happy consumer of your content.

[@forrestslrHankd]

I really like alox scales, but I broke the key ring on my alox sd and lost it about 2 weeks ago. I cant decided to what to replace it with another alox sd, a signature or midnight manager.

[@uiopuiop3472]

im filing my nail rn in mechanic glove

[@fabeogardinier]

the scoop would be good for getting marrow from bones

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

They now call it a cuticle pusher. Whatever that is!

[@Tapionski]

I think I prefer the alox version if I will be carrying it in the Keychain.

[@chrisosh9574]

The mini champ has no appeal for me at all, weird selection of blades, the smallest SAK I actually use is a Hunstman but mostly go for the Outrider. I have six or seven others including the smaller types but don't find them very useful. The Alox is definitely better looking though.

[@gabithemagyar]

The Outrider is great ! That was my favourite knife to take on travels. Unfortunately many countries in Europe. like the UK, have laws which prohibit carrying around a knife with a lockable blade so I have to be careful now. If I can't take the Outrider, I take my old Mountaineer which I bought 40 years ago or my Climber (if just a short trip). For urban EDC when not on a trip, I take a Sportsman, Spartan or simply a Swiss Army 1.

[@bdh3949]

A year later...I still have the Signature lite on my keychain and have no intention of changing it out, a perfect keychain knife for me. The mini champ is still on my radar but not as useful for me as the Siglite.

[@iRockChick]

Love the red alox but I'd be afraid over time the red would wear off :(. So the silver version probably be better?

[@linasmagnum]

Well, I'm not McGyver enough for these doo-hickys, but midnight maneger might do.

[@mhsvz6735]

Thank you.

[@verveblack]

are swiss army knives lead-free?

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

That's a question for Victorinox. I have no idea. What part of the knife do you suspect contains lead?

[@verveblack]

@@KnifeChatswithTobias no idea. just curious if it's lead-free

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

@@verveblack I'm not sure if the Alox has lead or not. The specifications of the metallurgy on the blade do not list lead as one the elements. I can't imagine Cellidor containing lead as it is plant based thermoplastic. But I really have no idea if lead is used in the manufacturing process of any these components and if in the process, trace amounts of lead are in the item. I know just about every knife these days has a hazardous chemical warning attached to them but this is due to the use of chromium in the blades. I'm not sure how this chromium is going to be extracted or passed into your system as it is bonded to the steel. It doesn't leach out.

[@rhino5419]

Hello. I think the alox looks better but how abrasive résistant is the anodisation. That said, i dont think either would suit me. Not the most useful collection of tools. All the best.

[@fishjj76]

Cellador every day for the scale tools.

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

I tend to agree with you. I miss the scale tools when they are not there.

[@felinebline7154]

I picked up an Alox sak. Really pissed as it almost instantly started to shabby abraded just by keys knocking around in my pocket. No way. Back to celador fast!

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

I don't mind the worn look of the alox covers but, yeah, if you're not expecting it, I can see your disappointment. I agree, the cellidor actually holds up better in a rough and tumble pocket. And you get the scale tools!

[@felinebline7154]

@@KnifeChatswithTobias Yup back to my RANGER.

[@felinebline7154]

​@@KnifeChatswithTobias and the celador is significantly less money And you can swap out celador while big buck alox is damn riveted

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

@@felinebline7154 , very true!

[@felinebline7154]

@@KnifeChatswithTobias and loose tweezers and pick. As important are the scale slots for fire tools and more.

[@ste-c1218]

It's a cuticle pusher mate NOT a spatula

[@KnifeChatswithTobias]

It was first released as a spatula and appeared on knives marketed as advertising knives for pharmaceutical companies. It became a cuticle pusher later. Sort of the way the orange peeler was first a bottle label cutter.

[@uiopuiop3472]

nylon rules

[@Didier090765]

Obviously Alox is the better choice, anyone knows that 😂

[@Pavlentiy-xi1zt]

Victorinox Manager is way better.