Religion and Slavery

The world’s religions have complex and often troubling relationships with the institution of slavery. Although some Christians fought for abolition of the slave trade based on their faith, others used the Bible to justify keeping other humans as property. The Abrahamic religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam arose in an era of slave societies. John Hamer of Toronto Centre Place will look at their long, complex, and often unfortunate relationships with the institution.

[@TheNYCndn]

I'm not a fan of the audience participation.

[@Gustamachio]

Slavery was terrible but let's be honest, it was happening all over the world. Even the Native Americans and Africans had their own slaves

[@ellengran6814]

If we are to be honest, we have to admit its a matter of belief. In order to have slaves, you have to tell yourself you have the right (due to some sort of superiority) to enslave other humans.

[@STEAKnyfeCYRUS]

...STILL doesn't make it right, morally or otherwise.

[@Bugsy0333]

@@ellengran6814 And that is exactly what the god of the Bible endorses.

[@livelonglegacy]

It's statement like this that are sorry as fuk if everyone was doing it then the shame falls on the idiots that took something evil and made it fukn worse duh that's the point we got leader not fit to lead shit

[@everettseay8505]

Europeans Developed Slavery into Big Business! Unlimited Resources (captured humans).Free land with vast undeveloped real estate. Either stolen, seized or possessed thru God. Seeking profit and control of fellow Human Beings! What sad history!🙏

[@MagicofAramis]

I wish someone would politely remind this woman these aren't her lectures. I'm sure she feels her interruptions are useful, but I'd really like to hear what the lecturer has to say.

[@TheCinamanic]

It's ok.. the community should allow conversation. Also I get that irritation u mean by this. But still I love all the interjections good or bad.

[@iloveturtles6969]

I agree and I'm glad I'm not the only one annoyed by it

[@cae02]

Yeah.... but she probably regularly attends and supports the church and we don’t. These videos are a meetup group and we’re lucky they’re even posted in the first place

[@alinajafi4644]

Then I think you should see the "Who were the Magi" lecture by John Hammer on Yt, she sings the whole storyline beautifully and you will love it! 😁

[@ryanmartin8435]

​@@cae02I don't 😅58638😊

[@janniebee9501]

Debt bondage is common among South American and Mexican practices for emigration to US. In Mexico the perpetrators are called coyotes but some are traded off to such businesses as chicken farms where their wages are sent to Mexico without ever being paid to them.

[@gregpappas]

I wish I lived in Toronto. So glad John is now on KZbin. What a gift he has given

[@fullytokd]

Thank you for the video John! Very interesting indeed.

[@TheCinamanic]

I feel like I'm falling in love with this whole thing John Hammer is doing. This must have been what people felt when those prophets started preaching those relatively inclusive and egalitarian ideas back in the days.

[@John_Malka-tits]

Bro I hope you're medicated.

[@TheCinamanic]

@@John_Malka-tits umm y tho

[@John_Malka-tits]

@@TheCinamanic cause what you said would be enough to have a normal person committed. You read like a danger to yourself and society

[@TheCinamanic]

@@John_Malka-tits that's in Ur standards.. not in mine

[@John_Malka-tits]

@@TheCinamanic let me put this in a way you can understand: "U are so dumb u should be locked up for the safety of people around u"

[@mikehipps1015]

I love this channel. I only found it recently. There's slavery in the modern world, in recognized countries, even today. China being the most egregious. I've typed this ten minutes in so we'll see if it's addressed.

[@kneelingcatholic]

always informative Johnny!

[@NinjaPandallnight]

God is not bearded white guy in a Robe floating on clouds who supports manifest destiny

[@dstarkspp]

Prove your claim…..just kidding!

[@waltershumer4211]

Why not? It's just as likely as anything else

[@georgenelson8917]

However: that is the basic game plan for Abraham religions, -as well as Human basic game plan brain wiring.

[@jimmierogers2033]

Lora here we go let me guess hair like wool? Color or texture? Like brass in a furnace? White hot 🔥 stop the bs the truth is blood type rh- are the bloodline of adam we come in all colors look into the war between the eagle and serpent

[@joshfloyd7755]

" God is dead, we have killed him, and now we shall never find enough water to wash away the blood"

[@luluadapa5222]

Saudi Arabia 2021. Still happening today.

[@makylemur7019]

Uyghurs in China.

[@luluadapa5222]

@@makylemur7019 Slavery shows humanity as heartless 🙏

[@donlemontte2280]

so why my friend go live in saudi because he hate white people but now get treat like crap in saudi, i told him stay away from islam n middle east, but did not listen

[@dietlindvonhohenwald448]

Slavery is alive and well in this day and age not just in Saudi Arabia but worldwide, slavery is a huge business in Africa currently were they enslave each other between their countries and tribes since the dawn of time.

[@ayodejiolowokere1076]

@@dietlindvonhohenwald448 what country in Africa sells slaves?

[@Primetiime32]

Thank you for the lecture

[@centre-place]

You are welcome!!

[@juliogadelhaparente]

I wish I had John as a preacher in Brazil

[@KaikalaMoon]

Quite sanitary, but clearly authentic and very well done. Thank you. It has been distressing watching this trend expand at home and around the world, while wondering if others are witnessing the same.

[@zaccoopah]

These talks are great but someone should remind the audience that questions do not need to contain a thesis or life story.

[@LethalBubbles]

this is an very good lecture on a very difficult topic.

[@waltershumer4211]

Only difficult for snowflakes who can't accept reality

[@LethalBubbles]

@@waltershumer4211 what's real about slavery?

[@waltershumer4211]

@@LethalBubbles ......... no offense but if you don't know that already I'm not sure how I could explain it to you. I think you've seen it for yourself in this video

[@LethalBubbles]

@@waltershumer4211 nice dodge :P

[@waltershumer4211]

@@LethalBubbles did you misspeak when you asked what was real about slavery? I don't think I've understood you perhaps you could rephrase the question if you please. As far as I understand and as this professor States slavery has been around for so long that no one even knows when it started. Seems pretty real to me. But if I had to guess I think what you're really asking is what is intrinsic about slavery or better yet what does it have to do with anything today. If that is your question then the answer is everything because humanism post Enlightenment philosophy democracy is based on the presupposition of equality which simply doesn't exist there's always a superior and inferior. And despite all of our best efforts the world will continue to work this way creating a defacto slave class despite whatever conditions we might find ourselves technologically. Such is nature such is life

[@hantms]

For those Western European countries in baby blue color... For The Netherlands they continued to have slaves in their colonies (e.g. Surinam) until 1873. Then the slave holders got compensation money, the slaves got nothing.. so it's not like a whole lot changed the next day after slavery was formally ended: still no money, no education, no place to go except work for a pittance at likely the very same place.

[@timotheewilliams9086]

Man is the only slave and he is the only animal who enslaves.

[@AccentYouLovingheart]

✅

[@Kryptician1]

the woman at the beginning who said yoga means to yoke yourself to a deity is a flat out liar, and its why we dont need westerners spewing false information about other cultures they are not apart of and dont represent, the word yoga does mean to yoke or establish union and also connotes establishing union thru concentration, but there is no part of the term or its etymology that has anything to do with deity in any sense whatsoever, yoga is a school of spiritual practice only, its not a religion in any kind of sense whatsoever, and the lecturer is super gullible for swallowing her nonsense without question

[@fullytokd]

To be fair, he might have been trying to be polite.

[@e.priest8937]

Triggered. So it means yoke.

[@books.reviews.pelhamhardim9758]

No mention of William Wilberforce?

[@alejandromunozperez5728]

Thank you very much for this videos.

[@jormajokelainen9089]

Very interesting,

[@lizzysbeautyshowetc.6895]

Human trafficking is and always will be, very sad

[@AccentYouLovingheart]

Totally disgusting 🤮

[@michaelrredford]

Thanks!

[@centre-place]

Thank you for your support!!

[@eddiemartin85]

Great

[@GrantorfDominion]

Most Appreciated Freedom Only Comes A OpenMinded Out Of The Box Research

[@polarbianarchy3333]

I would be interested to know which foraging groups used the idea of owning humans. Or which one... since I thought foragers mostly use kinship for forms of connection and cooperation, it would be interesting to know.

[@dietlindvonhohenwald448]

Humans used to fight each other since the dawn of time world wide. During these raids/wars, the captured people were brought back and enslaved for work or to trade in exchange for goods.

[@polarbianarchy3333]

@@dietlindvonhohenwald448 check again... It is not as you believe

[@VernonNickersonSCHOOLCOACH]

01:16:00 ff...the suggestion that some amount of financial compensation could move humans "beyond/ past slavery". Any compensation would need to be supported by making enslavement of any human being and or wage slavery a crime punishable with life imprisonment without possibility of parole.

[@makylemur7019]

I suggest the hiwaya.

[@USA50_]

Great applause for the questions/statements from the audience because they some of my own questions/statements as well! 🇺🇲☺️🇨🇦☺️🇲🇽

[@Moe-xg6bu]

Is one in this country knows what stands for Michael my God given name . I know exactly what I stand for and what protects freedom and justice is exactly what we the people stand for one nation under God indivisible by 4 with each I stand for liberty and justice for all in the known age of aquarius . I never stand alone I five stand as one known to be All proclaimed three times over before I was born undeniably proclaimed three times over three times three times over out womb and in man born the living untouchable Son of Man won't taste death

[@gogettalorri]

Thanks

[@KingKV99]

I tried rewatching this video because I am sure that they touched on Babylonia. Does anyone know where in the video this is?

[@nathanjohnson9715]

wait... did this guy just say he's a pastor? Did I hear that right? If only more Christians valued knowledge like this guy, this would be a very different country. Is this a Jesuit thing?

[@jeanjulie4851]

I think his background is that of a new type of Mormon

[@matthewelton7393]

He’s a pastor in the Community of Christ, which is related to the Latter Day Saints (Mormon) church.

[@luluadapa5222]

I doubt it is Jesuit. 🙏

[@nathanjohnson9715]

@@matthewelton7393 Wow, I'd love to hear what he thinks about Joseph Smith and the whole story of seer stones and reading scripture out of a hat and all that. He's clearly well versed in religious history. Usually people's faith isn't strong enough to handle all that knowledge about the history of their own religion.

[@jakubhejna6301]

@Anineel Daxshul I bet you didn't even read the bible you keep by your bedside. He might be a Mormon, but you sir, are a moron.

[@anthem2]

It is not that complicated, it was savegery, evil, inhumane, and selfish. It was not until the black man started to fight back they ease

[@Philip-bk2dm]

Orphans were often "adopted" here in the U.S. and essentially enslaved as farm laborers until recently. This may still be going on now with refugees and the undocumented. Exploitation is more widespread than is generally known or acknowledged.

[@guillermoflynn9653]

Adoption agencies depress the truth of exploitation

[@mungox1]

@1:35 yoga literally means to unite or join or yoke , but doesn't mean yoke with a god. look it up.

[@jussikankinen9409]

Mean getting nirvana not ass muscle

[@truthisbeautiful7492]

Slavery in Xinjiang would be a worthy topic for you.

[@jingerhaley5886]

Yes God told ya 💯💯💯💯

[@luluadapa5222]

Libya 2021. Still happening today.

[@shin0bili]

Thanks, Obama

[@stephenlennon7369]

@@shin0bili U mean Hilary

[@shin0bili]

@@stephenlennon7369 Obama's administration

[@jingerhaley5886]

❤❤❤

[@calroller3865]

France or the franks were named after the Norse/Germanic word frakka meaning javelin which was one of the Franks favorite weapons. It didn't make much sense to me that a tribe would be named free. On the other hand I guess a tribe surrounded by a lot of conquered people could be known that way.

[@jingerhaley5886]

❤

[@dhebert111]

So, I'm an Acadian, from Canada. Acadians were French and Belgian people who were among the first to colonize what is now called the maritime provinces of Canada collectively, along with parts of the New England states. Saying that it was hard to get French people to come to Canada, couldn't be further from the truth. Basically, Acadia was the progenitor of Canada. The first Acadian settlements were founded around the mid 15 hundreds. By the time the British colonies were built, Acadians were here for around 150 years. We got along with the First Nation's people's, and often were joined together by marriage. England was getting into a lot of conflicts by the 1730's/40's and saw the Acadians as a potential hostile force, so they tried to have them swear allegiance to England and make themselves available for conscription to the English Royal armies. They had no support from France, who were themseves in the early years of the French revolution. The Acadians said they would accept their offer of allegiance, however they would be neutral. They refused to take up arms to fight against their French brethren and First Nations people. The English would not accept that compromise. Not having an army, the Acadians were rounded up, had all of their property burned and were either killed or packed onto ships and displaced to pre-USA Louisiana, starting in 1755. It was actually the first genocide in North America. Being such a resilient people, a lot of the Acadians either went further into the forests to avoid capture, or made their way back home from Louisiana, crossing the 13 colonies on their way back home. Acadian ideas and stories were a contributing factor in the American revolution. After all of that, and a few countries were formed, we are still here. I'm proud of my people. I hope my comments aren't interpreted as demonizing the British. Those events happened hundreds of years ago. We are proud of being bilingual, and modern Acadia's wealth is the people themselves. We are known as being peaceful, warm and hospitable people who get along with everyone and anyone. I hope my comment might have added a bit of knowledge to someone who weren't previously aware of the Acadian people and the history of Canada.

[@Moe-xg6bu]

Pope enslaved the world threw the post office Switzerland international postal union just like said would enslave the world threw the post office . Who said that ? Grey men

[@Moe-xg6bu]

Taught half truths and to guess know deceiving self exactly unknown to self divided became two the day you one you became two .5 true .5 just make two into one and I AM there to heal to into one self pendulum effect one step forward one reverse going nowhere until stop deceiving self

[@neocount6397]

​@@Moe-xg6buMoe needs Michael.

[@vandevere321]

Love from the Bronx

[@bakters]

Re: "What kind of apology is required or appropriate to leave the past behind" As a descendant of the "original slaves", meaning a Slav, I require none. Can we move on now? ;-)

[@doubleplusdanny]

Slave and Slav are not etymologically connected. It’s more likely Slav comes from the word “слов” meaning word. Ie, Slavs are those who speak and are intelligible to other Slav speakers, whereas outsiders were not Slavs and thus unintelligible.

[@bakters]

@@doubleplusdanny That's correct, but not relevant. The idea supposedly is, that in Byzantium there were so many Slavic slaves, that the word Slav started to be used to describe any slave, and that later that word was borrowed into English It went on for a long time too. Until Russians captured Crimea. There was a huge slave market in Bahchisaray there. But if that's not enough, I'm descended from serfs. My grandpa still worked on landlord's farm. Is my "victim card" solid enough? ;-)

[@lucasm7781]

@@bakters the first one not really. It happened a really long long time ago. About The second one. Maybe I can give you a pass 🤔

[@bakters]

@@lucasm7781 "It happened a really long long time ago." No, not really a long time ago. XVIII-th century. I just checked, that it ended in 1774*. I mean, if 1863 is considered to be so recent that people are still traumatized from it, I have all the reasons to sleep badly because of it too! ;-) * - Only in this particular area, because of military conquest. Elsewhere it continued. Slavs were still captured and sold. Not only Slavs too. Plenty of British ended up chained to the oars in XIXth century. They should claim their cards, it's all the rage nowadays!

[@doubleplusdanny]

@@bakters It is relevant because you made a comment that is etymologically unsupported. I don’t think there is any evidence to support that Byzantine slavers and the word slave as used in English are related at all.

[@pinkethos3625]

Thank you for making this video, please continue to educate people. I can not tell you how infuriating it is to live in America Chicago specifically and see the conditions of my people.The physical visable hurt, shame, pain and misdirected energy and anger that we all carry. The daily issues I deal with In relation to racism from random police harressment to every subtle and ovary form of racism. I talk to my grandfather whom was a share cropper and the storys he tells me about fleeing the south and it breaks my heart. MY great great grandfather whom was used for breeding had over 100 children all stolen and sold off! I randomly look at my children every couple of minutes that I love with all my being and feel my ancestors pain as if I'm reliving the trauma and often have nightmares of white people/the state stealing my children and I'm unable to defend them before I wake up. Hopefully, tonight this helps me sleep, knowing some of you are attempting to actively try to do the right thing. I honestly look at Christianity as the public relations arm of white supremacy and the closest thing to evil. if this was every churches stance to attempt repair with out hidden agenda.. it would mean a lot.

[@Diamonddom81]

Western Christianity is taught through the Greco Roman lense. The Romans didn't follow Hebrew Culture therefore the fruit of their teaching is dysfunctional. I think it's in the bible it says that the Hebrews would go into slavery under a nation with no understanding and that nation would come up, hence Roman Catholicism taking over around 1492.

[@waitaminute2015]

There's many white people who are trying to educate others, but we often get drowned out. Im not a Christian but I follow a pastor "Ed Trevor" on KZbin who is trying to educate through love. There's a diverse following including atheists, if you're interested. His channel gives me hope.

[@John_Malka-tits]

Education is a dialogue. This is racialized dogma.

[@John_Malka-tits]

@@waitaminute2015 almost like education is a dialogue- not a dictation. "Educators" around slavery are trying to preach moral right and wrong. As if history was a charcuterie tray they could hemm and haw over what's good and bad instead of INTERROGATING it to find out what is and isn't Useful.

[@John_Malka-tits]

@@waitaminute2015 "diversity is opium for the colonies" Marx (probably)

[@judithsmith9582]

In 1874 Baha'u'llah, founder of the Baha'i Faith, categorically outlawed slavery for any reason (assuming the Baha'i Faith is the newest Dinely Revealed religion and that this would be the new laws for the New Era). "It is forbidden you to trade in slaves, be they men or women. It is not for him who is himself a servant to buy another of God’s servants, and this hath been prohibited in His Holy Tablet. Thus, by His mercy, hath the commandment been recorded by the Pen of justice. Let no man exalt himself above another; all are but bondslaves before the Lord, and all exemplify the truth that there is none other God but Him. He, verily, is the All-Wise, Whose wisdom encompasseth all things. - Baha’u’llah, Kitab-i-Aqdas, Par. 72."

[@mrsatire9475]

That's not a condemnation of slavery, instead it promotes the idea that slavery is natural, inherit to being human

[@chutspe]

So "France" means "freedom". Funny, how "french fries" were renamed "freedom fries"...

[@VernonNickersonSCHOOLCOACH]

Or, just like the GOP: So derivative of Machiavelli, Goebbels, and Dante; so lacking in originality of thought.😊😡

[@calroller3865]

I wonder where he got that "fact". The franks were a tribe that lived there and I guess that could be a tribes name but not so sure .

[@jamestcatcato7132]

@@calroller3865 I can confirm, that your guess is right on the money.

[@leonmetlay5671]

All of these talks are well researched and interesting. The discussion of slavery in the Torah is not entirely straightforward. The Hebrew word translated as "slave" is the same as the word for "servant"- "eved". The English translators use one term or the other based on context. Some of the slaves might be better thought of as indentured servants, though that might not have been very different.

[@jamestcatcato7132]

The bible also uses "bondage', there is no historical evidence of Hebrew 'slavery'.

[@lordgodamenra8075]

How about Dum Diversas? Pope Nicholas V?

[@markrossow6303]

"chattel" from Norman-French legal vocab being cognate with ?Middle / Modern English "cattle"

[@stephensinclair3771]

Its disturbingly easy to see how a dogma like predestination could be applied to an entire race.....

[@toravnerflyr6911]

You might want to update that graphic at 1:05:18 to the "Jewish and Christian Transatlantic Slave Trade" and consider the oldest synagogues in North America were in the Caribbean. This is an established fact as well as slaves not being traded or sold on the Sabbath. There a period posters that depict this in a Google image search. Jewish people were in the majority in this trade with Christians a close second. I mean if you wanted to be honest. It should be noted the re-education of Native Americans was a Christian endeavor sanctioned by the government.

[@ronaldamile7772]

How you going to have a presentation about slavery whiteout mentioned Haiti 🇭🇹 had the one and only successful slavers revolution of the modern wold and is therefore responsible for all the other changes in the social fabric to this day, and had paid and still paying ransom for doing it SMH 🤦🏽 y’all got to do better

[@kdubs9111]

That 29% male completely leaves out how many mass graves the levies were buried in after countless, endless, wars.

[@qcthesxientist]

isn't that stat about today?

[@kdubs9111]

@@qcthesxientist Pretty sure war is constant...and the poor of today are peasants by another name

[@woolworthdavis2007]

Yoga means Union. Not yoking yourself to anything.

[@qcthesxientist]

This comment section ain't passing the vibe check.

[@NuncNuncNuncNunc]

Mauritania may have criminalized slavery, but there is reported to be very little enforcement. @11:30 Good question about Nordic countries. Dates seem off by ~500 years, so source and definitions need clarification. In France too, slavery may have been abolished but it persisted through at least the mid 19th century in some form or another. France criminalized slavery in 2013. Date on map for Spain is 1837, but Spain kept slavery legal in Cuba until 1886.

[@hamouniranmanesh7362]

While you were talking about historic slavery, you said all historic civilisations treat with slavery casually. It was informative if you mentioned Cyrus the great cylinder which he banned slavery(the ugly-unworthy custom as he said)

[@user-mf4xf5ps6t]

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[@Thor-Orion]

1:27 listen to how he diminishes Arminius victor in the great northern pine forest and then sent the Legionary Aquilas to the tops of the trees. Look up the historic examples and imagine it on the top of the Norwegian Spruce community Christmas trees native to- amongst other place-Teutoberg Forest.

[@Thor-Orion]

Hamarabe is a Hittite king!

[@Thor-Orion]

24:17 that’s the first Greek perversion, the Scythian didn’t wage wars of subjugation.

[@Thor-Orion]

House of David is a totally different people.

[@Thor-Orion]

41:21 that image is Byzantine propaganda from Unjustinian. Paul the usurper is another thiever of the Aryan Church. That’s the true secret history. The Roman church quickly aligns with the Byzantine church against the Aryan church. Martin Luther is beloved by the Aryan nobility for the second founding. We need a third founding.

[@samiam1044]

Love your lectures, You would do so much better without all the background noise.

[@jingerhaley5886]

Right versus left again even in the Quran wow 💯💯💯

[@Natalie-fj7fs]

Slavery was abolished with the revelation of the Baha’i Faith in 1873 by Baha’u’llah.

[@toydigger]

Slavery was abolished by the leaders of the western nations long before 1873. Non were Bahai. And Bahai have rejected Millerite teaching. The only ones who still fully understand their teaching are 7th Day Adventist

[@peterkatow3718]

First nations: Give it back or shut up.

[@tudorpearce]

This should be interesting.

[@DCboi51]

Nice to meet you Tudor!

[@tudorpearce]

@@DCboi51 watching from the Sinai, egypt. Another great lecture. Thank you

[@jingerhaley5886]

Abolish said it long ago 💯 😎😎😎 love this information 😎😎😎

[@davebeecher6579]

Thank you 😊 and thank you Toronto stripper 😁 you are essential worker for sure 😁 I love you

[@abdulmaliqattar9508]

In islam there is Mukataba and it is order in Quran to all Muslims who had slaves（back in history) that if slave want to be free and pay a price for himself the owner has to Accept to set him free when he pays, sorat Alnoor vs 33

[@hantms]

2 seconds in and it's demonetized. :D

[@clydecessna737]

The Nordic countries did not have colonies if you exclude the status of Greenland with respect to Denmark.

[@nabbar]

I found this disappointing. I was hoping it would go into the specifics of religious arguments used to support and oppose slavery. Instead, it spent massive amounts of time on aspects of slavery that had essentially nothing to do with religion, and the attention it did give to specifically religious issues was shallow and superficial. In particular, a good analysis would need to look at the ways people used religious scriptures to argue for and against slavery, not just at the scriptures themselves.

[@ocheltree1]

nabbar, thank you for saving an hour and a half of my life. I'd have wanted the observations you mentioned it lacked so, I'm moving on, lol.

[@The1DUIGuy]

@@ocheltree1 - Ditto.

[@pitbulls2849]

If you want religion go to : Anthony Browder youtube.

[@fullytokd]

I don't understand your comment, the scripture itself was used to argue for slavery. What else are you looking for? The people who are arguing for slavery are referencing the scripture itself.

[@Egos_Altar]

33mins in he starts to speak of slavery in religion/old testament

[@suelingsusu1339]

🙏🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏🖖🖖🖖🖖

[@aclem8246]

Whether you talk about full on slavery or indentured slavery, or serfdom, you are talking about the 1% who take all the profit and the rest of the people having to work and allow most of the profit to go to the 1%. For awhile we have had a middle class who got a decent share ( at least enough to have a good life) but more and more today we are going backwards as the 1% get more greedy again.

[@calroller3865]

Charlemagne's tribe was called "free"? I am not so sure. Wonder where he got that.

[@jamestcatcato7132]

Carloman and the Carolingians were the Vanguard of Vatican expansion, therefore were heavily propagandised.

[@lennykoss8777]

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@razony]

Look what humanity is a slave to most, $$$$. Like a drop of rain that seems to find its way in. No matter how hard one tries and denies... It's part of our lives.

[@janechambers9980]

I agree; Capitalism is wage slavery. This was known in America in the 19th century; the right then scared us with the "Communist Menace"--and our criticism of Capitalism went away.

[@toravnerflyr6911]

You're confusing corruption with Capitalism. Russian Communism was corrupt, not only did they kill their own people, they starved millions and sent million to an arctic gulag. You also don't seem to know that western industrialists financed Stalin with the Lend Lease Act. Sure the entire cold war was a ruse, The Allies literally handed a third of eastern Europe over to Russia after WW2. Regardless of economic ideology the same class of people always stay on top. Sure they fight amongst themselves, but the collateral damage is always the middle and lower class. These ideologies are just props to occupy the minds of lower classes while they rob everyone else. Simple pawns used as tools and discarded. Even Mao was propped up by Western Powers. The Boxers detested Western involvement because they were essentially drug pushers. China now is considered a model for the West according to Gates, Soros, and the rest of the WEF.

[@VernonNickersonSCHOOLCOACH]

00:04:11 In four of the five pictures relating to chattel slavery, black bodies are explicitly depicted. Question for academics: Are 80% of all enslaved people in USA in 2021 People of Color?

[@davidbenyehuda7618]

Shalom, your perspicacity is showing.

[@timnray99]

while i firmly believe history should be taught in a fullness....i am sick and tired of the Presentism the current educated class suffers from. It makes my sympathetic to Pol Pot's answer for the educated class....

[@nappyscribe1987]

The slavery that existed before the cruel western slavery was nothing similar. Family’s were allowed to stay together. It only lasted 7 years. If the slave was single he was allowed to marry one of the family members of the enslaver. They continued to practice their own religion. They were able to even run for public office.

[@floorfan7987]

You keep saying allowed. Who allowed it? Oh yeah the slave OWNER !!!! And that was only the rule for Hebrew slaves.

[@HelloThere-xx1ct]

Sadly this is not the case. You're describing indentured servitude, which was a voluntary practice. Slavery has nearly always been a part of human history and it has never been an un-cruel practice. Your own bible confirms this involuntary slavery in the story of one of its main characters. Joseph, son of Jacob, was sold into slavery against his will by his brothers. Slavery is one of the major plot points of Genesis and the Bible falls apart quickly if you deny it.

[@nappyscribe1987]

@@floorfan7987 that’s what slavery IS! Domination over a people or person so “allowed” is a word that would be included in SLAVERY. Slavery doesn’t mean freedom. Yes Allowed!!!

[@nappyscribe1987]

@@HelloThere-xx1ct I know MY history and the history of my Ancestors. It was NOT voluntary it was slavery. It was not as cruel as the steely eyed white man’s Version!!! I don’t think they knew what my ancestors would go through when they told the ice people where to find my ancestors. And don’t put that filthy bible on ME. It is not a history book. It was just an instrument used to enslave and do much more.

[@floorfan7987]

@@nappyscribe1987 That's what I'm saying. Who gives any human being the right to own another human being as property? Oh yeah your piece of shit god !!!!! I don't need anyone to give me permission to get married or any other thing I want to do within the law.

[@aclem8246]

Europe abolished slavery in Europe but they continued to profit from it with their slave holdings in the new world.

[@jingerhaley5886]

I’m first I can move up and down they stay chained 😎😎😎

[@khalilkansou]

The presentation is great! The audience is out of topic! They just want to gives their opinion! The fact that humans did and will always do bad things - fine! Employment is a kind of slavery... Bla bla bla - fine! Does the legal system of Canada allows slavery, owning and selling humans... Stop mixing shit!

[@leebarry5686]

Which religion should?

[@anwiycti1585]

If one can slave oneself, then yoga be said as religion : D

[@dnguyen5001]

not in Asia,except china not publicly,but informal Chanel. back then a wife can be bought and sold as a piece of property this appears in literature,some book did mention this in Vietnam culture, there were some form of slavery, but different form rich landlord had a lot of land , they leased to peasants and harvested profits when winter months come , peasants got nothing to eat so they ganged upon robbed landlord. cycle were going on for thousands of years that’s why communist got their foot in society firmly,now they are landlord and people are peasants cycle is going on one more time people are the same,even in religion, monks are landlord,controlled people spiritually and financially in the name of gods it’s happening right now Sad

[@kokayiufanifu8309]

Take me there!

[@1619Mercy]

Natural slave?

[@SteveJones379]

Religious or not, slavery is just wrong. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness".

[@myd0gr3x]

who is master? who is slave?

[@davebeecher6579]

Yeah not sure if they are interested in more words

[@jisiri]

Except the slaves? GLORY HALLESTUPID!

[@jisiri]

@@davebeecher6579 Depends on which side of the whip you're on huh? GLORY HALLESTUPID!

[@nathanjohnson9715]

hot take

[@alabamamothman2986]

God does not enslave. Evil, none Godly enslaves.

[@pitbulls2849]

Three pyramids are pointed perfectly aligned (Orion-Osiris Belt) to the King Asar, the God of fertility, life, resurrection. The oldest symbol of resurrection to mankind is the Washington Monument. It is called a ( tekken, obelisk, or phallus meaning, penis😭) Origin: Kemet - The oldest documented civilization( Egypt-Greek) " The Nation of the Blacks", representing King Asar & the Egyptian " Holy Trinity" Asar, Aset, Heru are ( Osiris, Isis, Horus/Jesus-Greek names). Asar was was chopped up by his brother into 14pcs. his wife Aset found 13pcs.& wrapped him back up & this was 1st mummy. Asar resurrected & impregnated Aset with Heru/Jesus born Dec.25. So you have a 555ft. phallus of King Asar in middle of D.C. & pope worships it every Easter at the Vatican😭. Astronomical: Dec.21-24 the SUN is still, then on 25 the day lengthens by 1minute, the new SUN is celebrated. All the knowledge & religion came from Kemet. Kemet was invaded and as a result you have the tallest structure in D.C. representing the birth of a new nation but it actually is the oldest symbol of resurrection to mankind from the God Asar.

[@jingerhaley5886]

King Louis 😂💯💯☘️🔥

[@Moe-xg6bu]

Let's talk Switzerland international postal union who said would enslave the world threw the post office . Who's the only person can give you a post office Switzerland international postal union in international trade law international stamp treaty . Grey men

[@calroller3865]

His giggle every sentence is starting to be annoying

[@AccentYouLovingheart]

Insecurity? 😆

[@allahjr.8522]

Mohammed didn't abolish slavery. His famous slave (Bilal) wasn't freed by him. Bilal was freed by the first Caliph Abu Bakr after the death of mohammed. Bilal was an ethiopian slave. But the word 'ethiopia' didnt represent nowaday ethiopia. That term represented the whole Africa.

[@marcusgarvey9726]

Bilal was never free lets stop misleading black people( please go and read back the ilamic sources in the islamic books after the death of Muhammad bilal continue to be a salve under the fist caliph Abu bakr was never set free by any of Muhammad's followers.

[@Czjk293]

Any existence in a communist regime is slavery, similar to how serfdom is regarded as slavery in a feudalist society. You are slave to a false ideology that is wholesale destructive to individuals and communities . Also slavery as a state of existence isn’t described, which is what Aristotle was trying to teach.

[@markstuber4731]

Woman at 1: 11ish minutes. How does she know Barrack Obama is a decentent of slaves. Even over an hour until this lecture, this woman is STILL presuming slavery is exclusively American.

[@allahjr.8522]

All black americans living in US for generations are descendents of slaves. Their forefathers were sold as slaves and taken to US. So, what she said was true. But its a bullshit to mention obama as an example. At least she should respect the ex potus.

[@dietlindvonhohenwald448]

@@allahjr.8522 Obama’s father was not a black American. He was an African immigrant and Obama’s mother was a white American. They divorced when Obama was little and Obama was raised by his white mother and white grandparents and extended family.

[@nixonndombe7368]

Jesus Christ and his apostles never owned any slaves therefore why do you often confuse European culture and Christianity?

[@doubleplusdanny]

There are injunctions for how to treat and trade slaves in the Bible. Jesus and his friends didn’t have slaves because they were wandering around/didn’t have land to be tilled.

[@Midniigh]

specifically Deuteronomy Numbers and Leviticus in the bible give rules and laws by god on how to sell keep and treat slaves. so it's really not just European culture but also middle eastern. but using these text European christanity during colonization we're able to justify what they've done.

[@ayodejiolowokere1076]

@@doubleplusdanny because God does not approve of it.

[@ayodejiolowokere1076]

@@doubleplusdanny and trade slaves?

[@doubleplusdanny]

@@ayodejiolowokere1076 Do you know what an injunction is? There are plenty for how to treat them in the OT and Luke, Ephesians and Timothy all mention slavery in the NT but none condemn it. They comment on it and condone it. Pitiful book.

[@Call-me-Jester]

Chattel slavery still exists in a least two west African countries: Sudan and Mauritania and as far as I know these two countries are recognized as such. And I'm surprised the speaker didnt mention how chattel slavery ended for the first time in most of the world. We can thank the British empire, with a little help from the US, for that, at considerable cost to themselves to boot.

[@jukker95]

The British slave owners were very well recompensed for their slaves, so the economic cost to them was not that considerable. In addition to the moral imperatives there were sound economic reasons why slavery was becoming less viable in the emerging modern world.

[@dukegotpowers]

Totally……

[@jamestcatcato7132]

Demographic control was the reason for brutish and U Snakes supporting abolition. Reparations to slaveowners have only just stopped being paid by UK Taxpayer's in the last few decades. Once again the "poor' pay the lions share. Your post REEKS of 'whataboutism' .

[@pavelavietor1]

❤ THIS PEOPLE ARE SO CRAZY CONDITIONED THAT IS SCARY😮 SALUDOS. YO RODRIGUEZ APOLOGIZE FOR MY GRANDFATHER OWNING ALL OF YOU GRANDMOTHERS 😂 😂😂, PROVE ME ERRONEOUS IF YOU CAN ❤

[@dendennis9060]

To the American slaves who were kidnapped and brought to America. I am U 😇