Cesium Chlorate Cell for Cool Colour Combustion

We try some more electrolysis to make a new chlorate, with a cool colour. But is it worth the effort? Why are we here, if only to suffer?
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[@asmolbean9300]

Maths with Tom: "ten volts is higher than five volts" *Applause*

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

I didn't even say it with confidence

[@theginganinjaofficial]

Qwik mafs!

[@petercarlson811]

@@ExtractionsAndIre Because we know how sneaky mafs can be.

[@Subway1427]

Nice job, unfortunately not everyone can be Uni grads with amazing maff skills like that. Lol

[@broklond]

Maths: no

[@smokebuur]

"We're really looking for an inside project today"......"So were going to make a chlorate cell"

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Then once it starts working I have to move it outside anyway haha

[@richardark]

As someone having a PhD in chemistry, I have to say that your approach to maths is the correct one

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Yes but......... It's a PhD in Physics

[@sg_kerb]

@@ExtractionsAndIre good enough is something to strife for

[@keithcarpenter5254]

@@ExtractionsAndIre lol!

[@MadScientist267]

Fuzzy math FTW

[@Bebeu4300]

I originally discovered your channel because of the salt tasting video. I'm glad I stayed. Best chemistry channel 11/10.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

The original cesium content!

[@DanielWillems1995]

And that right feel of aussieness and letting the mouth fly at times (swears), resonates with fellow aussies like myself

[@francoisdelarochefoucauld2636]

Yes, 5 stars for you

[@punkcobi8953]

Same

[@anjecha9496]

me too

[@petermc_grann4192]

The filtrate in the first attempt looked disturbingly yellow. and then look what happened- disaster.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

"I'll just add this little bit of yellow, what could go wrong!"

[@josh2232]

Extractions&Ire just wondering, were you ever bad at chemistry or did you ever hate it?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

@@josh2232 i'm still bed at chemistry, and I did a degree in it so there were many days i hated it for sure

[@rayers1000]

Fucking dickhead yellow is.

[@petermc_grann4192]

@@ExtractionsAndIre I dream of days when I'm as bad at chemistry as you...lol

[@DR-54]

You're the only guy who would ask a group of strangers what to do with your cesium stockpile and not explain why you have one in the first place

[@BackYardScience2000]

Everyone should have a cesium stockpile.

[@WilliamFord972]

For atomic clocks, of course!

[@rayers1000]

"oh look if it isn't the consequences of our actions." on the floor, mate. I'm ded. I felt that on a personal level.

[@AsymptoteInverse]

I've adopted that phrase into my daily vocabulary.

[@theSILKROAD210]

Thats some expensive herbicide you use on your lawn. Edit: I love your "Bloopers"!

[@alexpotts6520]

0:50 I did know that caesium chlorate had surprisingly low solubility, because it was this property that was exploited in the discovery of francium. Basically, francium is chemically so similar to caesium that it will co-precipitate out of solution with it. When caesium chlorate was dropped out of a solution with uranium decay products in it, the francium was able to be separated from the other decay products. It was discovered that the resulting precipitate had detectable radiation with a half-life of about twenty minutes, which was proof for the existence of a highly radioactive alkali metal.

[@eshanroveran7850]

Wow really interesting read, I didn’t know that

[@RandomMan1]

Caesiem Chlorate: it's got what plants crave.

[@tomh2628]

"You've herd of gatorade, I give you chloraid"

[@topduk]

Potassium chlorate was used as weed killer, I don't think cesium would help with plant growth.

[@RandomMan1]

@@topduk It's from the movie Idiocracy. In the movie everyone thinks that plants crave electrolytes, leading to an ecological disaster.

[@derleo89]

One thing AvE taught me: Panic! Positive in anode, negative in cathode.

[@derleo89]

@Evi1M4chine ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

[@rylpace]

"Every electrolysis video is me just saying 'this is a bad idea, me doing it, oh look: If it isn't the consequences of our actions'" This but my whole life.

[@reps]

Try and make a cesium iodide scintillator, make x-rays visible

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Oooh cool

[@bur1t0]

​@@ExtractionsAndIre Marco Reps would probably also be able to hook you up with an X-Ray source. Not sure I'd trust you with the HV required to operate one though...

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

@@bur1t0 yeah I don't trust me either haha. Also, it's too illegal to have an X-ray source here. Been wanting to build an XRF, but don't think I'll get away with an X-ray source

[@bur1t0]

@@ExtractionsAndIre Well after reading some legislation (best thing to do on a Saturday night), the choices are make friends with a Veterinarian, Cosmic Rays, Granite counter tops, or any of the natural sources in our Heaps Good state. There should be X-rays popping up all over the shop, considering the weather patterns during the time of Maralinga. Will need a photomultiplier tube for everything except old mate at the Vet. :-/ You could try asking one of the uni's really nicely, I remember walking past some doors in Adelaide Uni that had some sketchy warnings on them.

[@prateekkarn9277]

@@ExtractionsAndIre I mean the ozone layer is damaged right? You have plenty of it in the surrounding. All you need to do is make the surrounding your system! -Last words of a thermodynamics experiment gone wrong

[@woodpeppers]

"I really should be doing this outside" is a phrase I use way too often

[@markshort9098]

Yeah that and run 😁

[@terawattyear]

That last cesium chlorite-sugar burn had a most excellent purple/ gray flame, just as you advertised. You nailed the reaction. I’d have come totally unhinged had I dropped all my hard earned product on the lawn.

[@MyHandleIsGood]

I want a lot of highly flammable substances and a lot of highly oxidising substances

[@masoncook7426]

Who doesnt?

[@fluffypink90]

I love that I can't be sure if "MMS electrode" was intentional or not. Some of the people selling that stuff have been charged recently

[@revenevan11]

It's about time

[@ataphelicopter5734]

Such a Flex being able to check your own video for chemistry advice

[@jogandsp]

Wow! That cesium flame was beautiful! Good work as always! When are you doing your video on the effects of high soil cesium concentrations on plant life? I see that you've already started the experiments

[@GordanFreeman420]

Ah good to see someone in Australia finally found the recipe for clouds.

[@ScrapScience]

Cesium and chlorate cells, two of my favourite things. Very nice. Awesome flame colour too, cool stuff.

[@patrickradvanyi6390]

MMO, MMA, MMS, MMM all in the same video. I appreciate your consistency

[@jamesg3456]

"ah look if it isn't the consequences of our actions" .... I'm saying that when the kids come home

[@oldUmanUshea]

You need MMS solution to run an MMS electrode.

[@jednewman430]

11:58 that physically hurt to watch

[@RedScaledKnight1]

I love your dedication. I could only hope to have a fraction of the zeal you do for chemistry, and making these videos. Dropping the salts on the lawn would have broke me, but I would have never gotten past the electrode issue.

[@006bloody]

Well done having the patience to stick with the project through all the fumbling. Just reassures me that im in the correct job field.

[@bontonswanson8977]

Beautiful flames! Worth the wait imo

[@nickbz1303]

Really cool stuff! What you did with the solution electolyte shifting to manage the voltage will really help me in one of my ongoing projects!

[@lordchickenhawk]

Nice job mate! Really good video. Got the purple flame!

[@AussieChemist]

how is the Cs metal project going it's been so long i barely remember sending you those Cs2CO3

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Errrr... I'll get to it. One of these days!

[@EleshScorn]

So much chaos in a single video. I love it.

[@finlay7242]

From a philosophical standpoint, you approach failure with grace. Its just nice innit

[@bentompkins927]

Man idk what the fucks going on half the time in these vids but I love them

[@remcovanvliet3018]

Highschool chemistry?? My highschool chemistry teacher would have kicked you out of the classroom AGES AGO mate!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Aussie backyard bodging at its finest! Gotta love it!

[@nablo5208]

That Caesium flame is so beautiful man

[@UhEaux]

that filtered solution has a dangerously yellow tint while the crystals are forming.

[@japdog9]

making attemps and mistakes are all great content . keep it up

[@1Aiydee1]

You know, if a fire ever swept through your yard (And I hope it never does) it'd be the most spectacular bushfire ever. Random explosions and jets of different coloured flames. Firefighters would think they were on LSD when fighting the fires.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Oh yeah you're not wrong

[@rickfordmorningstar130]

"maths: no" I feel

[@andrewfleenor7459]

Seriously I need it as a reaction gif.

[@luisp.3788]

as somebody who doesn't enjoy math since his brain has accumulated too much yellow to do the math efficiently, trying to learn quantum mechanics and forcing myself into it has changed me

[@Subzizzle]

I love your videos so much man

[@Indianarmslover]

Very nice information, you should do more tests with cesium chlorate with sulphur,red and white Phosphorus and other chemicals.

[@a2pabmb2]

Learned a new word today: Flocculent. Thanks for that I guess...

[@rasmus1600]

That MMS/MMA/MNM electrode changed names several times :D

[@brazilianambassadordale8223]

Wish I had an NMR electrode. Sounds cool

[@GerSHAK]

Fucking love your use of Aphex Twin for these videos

[@bromisovalum8417]

Before the heydeys of ISIS, crystalline sodium chlorate was commonly sold as herbicide in every European garden center. So it seems that you have tested some expensive cesium-based herbicide on your lawn.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Oh I hope the lawn doesn't die there but I guess we will see :(

[@bromisovalum8417]

@@ExtractionsAndIre If I remember correctly, the NaClO3 herbicide was used mainly to kill weeds that grow along the grass on your lawn, so with a bit of luck the cesium salt too will leave the grass alone. Be sure to share your results ;^)

[@werewolwolf]

i was wondering why i love chem but i’m so bad at it, then i remember i’m subscribed to THIS channel

[@afwaller]

Hey it worked, thats a great purple color!

[@Kaos1382]

I like that I can relate to you. I dont do chemistry or anything but I feel like if I did, this is the type of chemistry stuff that I'd get myself into. "Well idk what is wrong here, but let's see if this will work. Nope it fucked it." "Wow it turned out to be really good in the end, well I fucking dropped it all over the lawn."

[@ebnertra0004]

His general...method...is the same one I use to get through life

[@pyromen321]

If you make a blunder-free video, I’m unsbubscrubing and down thumbing!

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

I've got some good news for you then

[@MalleusSemperVictor]

I think this guy is like some kind of proof you may not need to know math very well to do chemistry.

[@koppletonclopp7952]

Imma be honest, I know so little about chemistry cuz I'm still making up my highschool freshmen year shit even tho im in 11th grade junior year cuz I'm in a school for big dumb dumbs like myself who decided "I don't wanna do work I don't care about my future" and have to make it all up frantically to graduate so I'm still on basic earth science and shit and have no interest in learning chemistry in school cuz the modern education system sucks ass but it's super interesting as a hobby yet the most stupid and confusing and brain hurting science/interest I've ever encountered and these videos help me expand my tiny understanding of the terrible science of "chemical mix with chemical to make new chemical or go boom boom if done even remotely wrong". I love your content bro don't worry about if you have shit skills or equipment cuz I don't think anyone who is not mentally insane truly understands chemistry.

[@scrotiemcboogerballs1981]

Hell yeah 😎 my day is starting great now love your vids brother

[@jednewman430]

I love your floral print cupboard

[@sucroseboy4940]

I have an idea for you. You could synthesize propylene carbonate from propylene glycol and urea over a zinc oxide/acetate catalyst. The propylene glycol can be used for making alkali metals by performing an electrolysis of an alkali Metal salt dissolved in the PC. Don’t know if it will work with cesium though

[@nigeljohnson9820]

Nice video on the production of chlorate weed killer:-)

[@Add_Infinitum]

Ooo nice purple flames

[@T3sl4]

Interestingly enough, back when I experimented with chlorates I was able to get fine separation of potassium from sodium. Just a recrystallization or two. Maybe helped that I was doing relatively large batches, 1L or so? Nice size crystals.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

I do 3-5l batches and it's really easy to separate, it's definitely a function of size.

[@Subway1427]

I was loving the recovery method on the lawn. Lol. JFWY

[@stevend285]

touching absolutely everything with multimeter prongs is a mood

[@SodiumInteresting]

I like how you picked green over yellow for your video editing simulation of a room full of chlorine,

[@pets4489]

God damn I love your content

[@llamamusicchannel7688]

Hello friend you are still as cooked as the day I stumbled upon this beauty

[@scorpio6587]

That lawn had been plotting against you the whole time. But you overcame.

[@5467nick]

They had us in the first half, not gonna lie But the end was somewhat successful! So good job

[@Clipster15]

Seeing you drop that on the ground makes me not feel as bad. I always find some way to screw up and turn something simple into a mess. Your CsClO3 with sugar looked beautiful. The sodium one is pretty typical as, as you say, sodium dominates emissions. I think either your KClO3 / sugar composition had a little sodium in it or was especially fuel rich with hot carbon emissions. According to my experimentation with KClO3, it's actually more similar to CsClO3 than that shown in the comparisons, a bit more pink. I want to try out some BaClO3.

[@zubmit700]

It wouldn't be a video without it going horrible wrong lol Good vid mate

[@whynotdean8966]

Fully expected you to just light that patch of grass on fire.

[@ThatOnePaperBag]

Drinking game: everytime Tom says "flocculant", take a shot. Just don't come crying to me when ur dying if alcohol poisoning. Great vid, Tom ❤️

[@TheSnikers111]

Next project make thing go boom.

[@tomh2628]

Chlorate cells tend to produce more chlorine at a lower pH. I've never made cesium chlorate before but with potassium chlorate it isn't the end of the world if the pH rises too much so you could probably let the pH rise If u want less chlorine in your lungs😛

[@DukeOfEarle88]

Real tough winter you got down there.

[@DukeOfEarle88]

Also- 'ana' and 'kata' are Greek for up and down; I'm sure you could figure out some chemical theory for why that is- but I always try and remind myself that if cathodes have excess negative charge- all things being equal they should weigh more & hence 'kata' & down; vice versa for up/ana!

[@garycard1456]

'Winters' even in the most southerly part of Oz are positively tropical compared to the often-frosty (and sometimes snowy) winters in England. Then again, English winters are 'tropical' compared to the frigid winters in Canada, Iceland, Russia and the north eastern parts of the US.

[@DanielWillems1995]

Where did you get your electrodes from? I remember nurdrage specifically doing a video when he needed a legitimate platinum electrode for a project and he couldnt get his reactions to work properly, then I think he did a separate video to show his cheap ebay electrodes were a knock off platinum coated piece of steel webbing (think he even proved it with a simple magnet test, obviously steel magnetic and purr platinum electrode should not be). Hopefully my memory not playing tricks this was years ago now I think

[@z31drifterlf]

I remember this vid also, couldn't find it on a cursory search tho. Edit: I found it but its marked private now. og vid: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3W0poNqpKiCndE follow up vid: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6mTh4hvoLKmnbc&t

[@tomh2628]

www.amazon.ca/TWL-Platinized-Titanium-1-Inch-4-Inch/dp/B00JKXKTZO/ Thats where I got my platinum electrode. Its worked pretty well for making potassium chlorate. No corrosion so far and I've been running it for 4 weeks strait and made at least 400g of potassium chlorate using a 5v 2A laptop charger as a power supply.

[@kastonmurrell6649]

I got mine from here. electrodesupply.com/electrodes/ So far I have used the MMO/titanium combination for a 20 day chlorate cell run and it held up. I think I ran a 2x6 anode at 9 amps. I have a 2x3 platinum/titanium combo from them as well that I've only used for a couple hours in a sulfuric acid cell at only 0.5 amps but it still looks brand new for what that's worth.

[@tomh2628]

Also if anyone knows where to get a good lead dioxide anode that would be great. I'm trying to build a perchlorate cell.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

@@tomh2628 feanorforges here on KZbin makes and sells lead dioxide electrodes on Ebay

[@GenericAnimeBoy]

The flame color was really nice though.

[@wtfpwnz0red]

Came for the extractions. Stayed for the ire.

[@danieljrpeters6637]

For good electrolysis set the voltage low and the current high. Wipe your electrodes in between.

[@user-qn4ow6rn2p]

Why not to make Cesium perchlorate? Isn't it more stable and more powerful oxidizer? Btw, good video as always.

[@VerbenaIDK]

because oftentimes perchlorate production can be kind of a pain, but it's possible, but, why? wont he just burn it and explode it anyway? more powerful and stavle and safe sure but he wont be making rockets, just bombs from aluminium foil or some shit or just adding it into some mix to make it have nicer color

[@Enjoymentboy]

This is amazing timing. I cleaned out my chlorate cell on Wednesday and I began to wonder if it would work equally as well with cesium as it does with potassium and sodium and if so what changes would I have to make. Would I be able to use the same MMO anode or would I have to upgrade to platinum? What sort of voltage/current levels would I have to reach? Would it even work on a small scale? Looks like you had some of the same questions I had and I greatly appreciate YOU spending the time and money to answer them for me. :) Now I guess the logical next step would be to convert to cesium perchlorate. Go on...I dare you. As long as it isn't yellow I think it'll be safe to do.

[@markshort9098]

I think he would need a platinum anode to make perchlorate but i could be wrong

[@spiderdude2099]

FYI, the way I remember anion and cation or anode and cathode is by remembering the following: “Onions make you cry which is a negative emotion. Onion = anion = negative. Boom.”

[@noneofyourbusiness3288]

"I was so quick blaming myself rather than the electrode" xD

[@spiderdude2099]

So, at what point do I add the hydrogen explosion to the cell? That’s a requirement right?

[@asup759]

halfway through a chemistry degree and "cesium chlorate" gave me whiplash

[@kanyeweast3255]

Hello. Mr. Ire,sir. Or may I just call you Extractions. I've done a lot of thinking regarding the ozone layer in recent months and the video you made about halons interested and terrified me,but also inspired me. I've come to the conclusion that until these halons decay,the ozone layer will never stop depleting. I might be wrong,but I don't think I am. In the essence of such a self feuling wildfire in the atmosphere,I was wondering about destruction of halon molecules. How can these be broken down into other molecules so they can't keep interacting with ozone? I know that doing it in your lab would probably be immensely illegal,but a follow up wideo to your extinguisher one with some formulas and theories and whatnot would be incredible. I just want to know a good jumping point. I'd greatly appreciate it and I've learned so much about chemistry watching you. Don't stop,man

[@brightwizard12]

Everyone's favorite hero - the inanimate carbon rod

[@abroquet2189]

A reaction between a slight excess of caesium sulphate and barium chlorate might also work. Producing caesium chlorate. I love the colour. I wonder what it would look like through a spectroscope?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Yeah wondering if I should get a spectrometer

[@Wishingweezy]

Lol boi.. I wished u did that explosive plant vid

[@avenue4624]

You should do a video detailing the different colors various chems produce

[@Luhsteesay]

𝙸 don't understand a lot of chemistry but your videos are still entertaining to watch though!

[@gsuberland]

Oof, I feel for you with it going on the grass.

[@meme__supreme3373]

The wire mesh structure of the original electrode might have not worked due to the mesh-like structure creating electromagnetic feedback, but that should really be more applicable to coiled wire, and it would probably get worse with higher voltage. Besides that, some weird stuff in the setup could've combined to create a non-ohmic device, but I don't know too much about those.

[@jameswallace9906]

Omfg I missed you so much

[@MrBradshawbenjamin]

11:37 I can feel my heart crack

[@Coticosimo]

Hope you make a video about chlorate-perchlorate electrolysis by using GSLD, I couldn't find any video on yt that shows the successful attempt on making that things...

[@woosix7735]

Epic

[@DDendrite]

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who mixes up the anode and cathode.

[@6alecapristrudel]

The easy way to remember is: oxidation happens at the anode, reduction at the cathode. Regardless of it being a battery or electrolytic cell. + and - switch depending on which one it is, but that stays the same.

[@DDendrite]

@@6alecapristrudel yeah, I know but even with that I get it wrong occasionally. :P

[@firstmkb]

I think of Cathode Ray Tubes (CRT or TV tubes), which use an electron beam.

[@markshort9098]

@@DDendrite think about you want a A+ grade product

[@MikeColes]

anode starts with a, a+ , positive

[@LingvaFestivalo]

All the videos with alliterating titles that I've seen are very good. Maybe it's time to make a playlist or something. EDIT: If you know something to add, please lemme know!

[@SoylentGamer]

I was about to suggest doing some strontium chemistry, then I looked it up and found out that road flares are banned there.

[@sintaxera]

That is a cool colour