Making a Carbonato-Ammine-Cobalt Complex [Co(NH3)4CO3]

Some colourful transition chemistry, as we co-ordinate ammonia and a carbonato ligand to some cobalt(III). I also hate ammonia so much that I only ever draw it with 2 hydrogens lol
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[@hikingpete]

Very non-yellow. Congrats on the successful reaction.

[@trippiechris1852]

Yes its pigs blood red

[@Chlorate299]

Metal chemistry makes pretty colours, organic chemistry is smelly, colourless, but sometimes goes yellow.

[@UnheardPope]

Or sometimes even brown/black. Isn't that wonderful?

[@cwill2127]

Yeah but inorganic chemistry is just a gross topic to learn about when compared to organic chemistry

[@bentroyer1]

@@cwill2127 explain?

[@cwill2127]

@@bentroyer1 inorganic bad. No fun. Dangerously not fun amount of physics hidden in it. O-chem fun. Patterns. No math. No bad.

[@kruksog]

I'm assuming organic is the one that yields psychadelic compounds... so that's the winner.

[@johnmorrell3187]

I love how every video he's like "we're just going to copy this exactly because it worked pretty well" then immediately tells you some basic component that he's switching out on the assumption it'll work.

[@StreuB1]

I will say, your ability to articulate what is going on in the chemical reactions without pause and thought is getting a lot better. You're maturing as a chemist and I attribute this to your PhD. Keep at it man. How is it going BTW?

[@jhyland87]

agreed!

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Hey, I'm glad you think so. I think that's maybe its me getting better with saying things and then editing it down correctly. Cut down enough so that you don't waffle and its boring, but not so cut down that you become hard to understand because you skip stuff or assume a lot of knowledge. Always a hard balance to walk. The PhD is going okay, thanks for asking! I've hit the half way mark for my project and while the main project isn't doing that great..... ive got some interesting pet side projects that I think are more interesting than the main one lol. The main project requires spectroscopic scans of energetic materials, but so far we're still applying for the permits for these materials.... its been months of paperwork. For stuff I have at home, but that's not exactly allowed so doing it all 'correctly' takes.... a very long time. Which is frustrating. So it feels even better to get into the home chem lab and have some success! Glad I can still find the time, for now!

[@notinsane4165]

@@ExtractionsAndIre how does one causally say they cook energetic compounds at home without getting arrested for terrorism btws?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

@@notinsane4165 ive always thought: you say it best when you say nothing at all

[@jhyland87]

@@ExtractionsAndIre Just curious, what materials do you need permits for? And what are the permits called? I live in the US so it wont apply to me, but I'm just curious what you have to go through to get which chemicals/materials.

[@juliabuschermohle8858]

I did the same Sythesis and it is originally from a Paper from S. M. Jörgensen (1894). I think the reason why your yield was better was, that you kinda protected it from light by wrapping it while you boiled it. I did got a yield of 75% by protecting it as good as possible from light. At the end of the paper Jörgensen mentions, that the complex is sensitive to light, when in solution. So I put a small amount of my product in water and let it sit for a day (one in the dark, one in the light) and the one in the light turnt to a dark brownish color (the other one did not change). 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@mmmhorsesteaks]

No tar, not yellow. Is it even chemistry? Zero stars.

[@luisp.3788]

yep

[@Artemis-zl5cs]

the music made this a very odd exprience, kind of an oddly serene video

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

@33Ddg209Ret7 there were two track yeah, and I forgot to put the names of the tracks in! I'll do that in a sec. They're both early Aphex Twin (from his soundcloud dump of unclaimed tracks), from around the first selected ambient works album

[@bobsagely812]

The chemplayer computer voice in the background made odd too lol

[@JoppedeZeeuw]

I honestly thought I was entering Draynor Village but it just kept looping and left me uneasy. Edit: actually it’s the Lumbridge Swamp (Book of Spells is the OSRS track) but you know what that’s close enough for me.

[@fedorg]

1. "Sams car" 2. "19 Ssnb" Search for "selected SoundCloud works" or "selected ambient works vol 3"

[@2AMProductions]

@@ExtractionsAndIre RIP Chemplayer, it was nice nostalgia for sure.

[@Slowly_Going_Mad]

Metal ion chem is beautiful. I have been making all sorts of stuff from it simply for the colors. Copper makes my favorite blue and green.

[@drrrrockzo]

Awesome success! Glad it didn't go yellow for some inexplicable reason.

[@benjaminjones3351]

I like the more calm vibes in this video. I also like the explosions and fire chaotic vibes. They are both really nice styles that fit well to their respective content.

[@jhyland87]

I get so excited when Extractions&Ire or Explosions&Fire2 post a new video.... _NOBODY BOTHER ME FOR THE NEXT 12 MINUTES AND 15 SECONDS!_

[@DAN8137]

8:51 "wash with a little ICE cold water and dry thoroughly OFF a PUMP" we miss you ChemPlayer

[@fedorg]

they are on bitchute

[@DAN8137]

Fedor Golishevskiy I know

[@T3sl4]

Chemistry that's colors other than yellow! [[PLATINUM WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION]]

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

The Yellow always finds me eventually

[@DrakkarCalethiel]

Transition metals and their lovely colorfull chemistry, always a pleasure to see!

[@terawattyear]

Colors! And to top it off you taught me some stuff about the structure of Co compounds I didn’t know. Very cool vid. Good work and great yield!

[@abitoftheuniverse2852]

Dude, Aphex Twin + Chemistry? You get an instant sub! 0:24 I am quite surprised KZbin recommended this video to me, given this. Either your 'accent' didn't trigger the robots, or they're slackin on the job. Either way, I'm glad our algorithmic overlord linked you to me via this video. I look forward to exploring your catalog of videos, both past and future.

[@TheIdeanator]

I like the casual "cooking" in there at the beginning.

[@lacky2481]

Hey mate, thanks for all your effort and time making these videos. Your channel gets me so stoked on my own studies, you're a chemistry beast! Keep up the awesome work, I hope your PhD is going well. Cheers

[@zubmit700]

Damn you've grown since last video I saw. Glad to see your chemistry and channel is going well.. :)

[@rogerdotlee]

Right on TDep! I *LOVE* transition metal chemistry. It's what I've been working with when I'm not trying to make more Silver Azide! I really need to expand to Cobolt as Manganese and permanganates (while being totally cool) is starting to run its course with me.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Cobalt is a fantastic element to do chemistry with. It won't do the things silver azide can do though!

[@nickbz1303]

This was some good stuff! Definitely do more transition metal chem!

[@lemon93]

thank you so much for confirming to me that carbonato is the way to properly describe a carbonate ligand

[@michaelathens953]

Transition metals don't often get the attention they deserve. Very cool video, definitely some fun chemistry!

[@dannyrobles6112]

I really don't know much about chemistry but I have always found it interesting. Your videos are very entertaining, you make chemistry very interesting. I wish I would've had a teacher like you back in high school.

[@theKashConnoisseur]

When you spooned the cobalt sulfate out of the bag, it looked like a dry spice mix.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

nutritious and delicious

[@theKashConnoisseur]

@@ExtractionsAndIre its not Yellow Chem, how bad could it be?

[@shanghaichase7784]

I fucking love you Tom. You became a doctor and then made chemistry so god damn understandable. I fucking love you mate. God speed.

[@thewarmedic2330]

Keep up the great work mate!

[@alexandre4953]

Best way to finish weekend with extractions&ire video

[@AdricM]

loved the purple foam when the final H202 was added

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

It was beautiful to watch!

[@El__Leche]

I have no idea what you are talking about 99% of the time, but I like seeing chemicals 'n stuff

[@gabrielgray817]

Cook some cobalt chloride eggs benedict

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

deep fried cobalt

[@transkryption]

Mmmm bacon carbonato

[@californium-2526]

Carcinoma benedict!

[@cvspvr]

@@californium-2526 benedict carbonbatch!

[@jeremymcadams7743]

A very complex recipe there

[@7177YT]

lovely project, sweet tracks! Cheers!

[@NicholasA231]

... and thank you for pronouncing ligand properly.

[@simonwilczynski5863]

French Canada here... great vids. Keep it up if it makes you happy! J'aime comment tu fais tes videos.

[@revenevan11]

Some absolutely bangin' music in this one, m8

[@KingHalbatorix]

thought I read 'anime' in the title and did a triple take

[@billsmathers7787]

You missed the third hydrogen on the ammonias in the 3d structure!

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

I missed the third hydrogens on the ammonias everywhere, this is a mistake oops

[@abroquet2189]

I made chloropentaamminecobalt chloride last week, beautiful red violet crystals.

[@wtechboy18]

I love cobalt and chromium chemistry for all the crazy colors they go through.

[@hugocesarhernandez3991]

excellent demonstration of synthesis, it's a common procedure in the inorganic chemistry lab on UNAM's chemistry school. I have a obsevation about the structure of the complex at the begining of the video. the carbonate ion don´t forms chelated rings of four members because the overtention of the angles; however carbonate ion can forms binuclear complexes with two carbonate bridges between cobalts. Again excellent video!!!

[@Quartization]

Oh, I’ve actually seen preparation of this complex in my highschool lab. But as far as I remember, most people, who tried it, just got a dark-brown solution without any solids formation.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Maybe that week of uninterrupted crystallization was real good!

[@ephjaymusic]

Yaaaaaayyyyy he's back ❤️😍❤️😍❤️😍❤️😍❤️😍🙏

[@joeestes7096]

Awesome video!

[@TeslaFactory]

Much nicer than yellow chemistry 😂

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Not a single shred of yellow in this video and it's glorious

[@joshpoe9339]

them chemplayer feels @ 8:53 tho

[@T3sl4]

The feels ಥ_ಥ Is Chemplayer's music free? Would be cool to mix in from time to time.

[@caffeinette]

Gorgeous! I love transition metal chemistry xD If we were only looking at playing the odds, there are more chances of the ligands re-coordinating in the cis arrangement. But it does make sense that, when the ligands rearrange themselves, trans is favored. The anions as far apart as possible and it avoids having the slightly bulkier NH3 from having an instance of being 90° from three other NH3s.

[@rre9121]

Fabulous video.

[@arturoe6957]

Pouring chemicals from a vodka bottle into a broken beaker is the only science i want to see from now on

[@while.coyote]

This was lovely.

[@sampson466]

The music was a really nice touch

[@GrimsBar]

Excellent video

[@percyvile]

Awesome man!

[@xghale9073]

Wow. Now this was a seriously cool chemy chem vid, and it wasn't yellow!

[@danielho9579]

Keep up the good work

[@euler2589]

Well done.

[@peterpiso7384]

Great video

[@ephjaymusic]

Those crystals were so sparkly!!!!🤩

[@jacksonpottsii]

I love the broken volumetric beaker

[@chemistryscuriosities]

Very well done! I can't wait to see some BNCP! That is what your after right? I'm currently working on Amino acid light metal Perchlorates.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

That's the one! amino acid perchlorates, sounds powerful, best of luck mate!

[@chemistryscuriosities]

@@ExtractionsAndIre Thank you, be careful this compound is a beast!

[@valeriyafrolova6263]

Very nice video! I wonder about several points though: 1) what gas is produced after you added hydrogen peroxide? 2) what gas is produced when you are adding extra carbonate salt? 3) Doesn't ammonia carbonate decompose when heated, or in solution this doesn't work like that? Thank you!

[@elnombre91]

A wine bottle of ammonia solution. Fantastic. Also, you mentioned that the peroxide oxidises the Cobalt to its +3 oxidation state, but the structure you drew is Co(II). If this oxidation then reduction happens, what is reducing the Cobalt? And finally, the blue solution you have at the end is likely [NH4]2[CoCl4]. Nice video though!

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

How could you tell it was Co(III) in the structure? And also yeah, okay that's a cool complex. It was a very nice blue. I think the hexachloro complex is a nice blue too? So maybe a mix

[@elnombre91]

@@ExtractionsAndIre well carboxylate is a 2- X-type ligand and the ammine ligands are obviously neutral L-type ligands, so to have a neutral complex, it's got to be a Co(II) centre.

[@DukeOfEarle88]

Sweet! Next video can be about transition (yellow) metal chemistry! Yay.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

no

[@mercury6800]

Extractions&Ire come on it’s what we want to see

[@DukeOfEarle88]

@@mercury6800 Real chemists ONLY do yellow chemistry... At least that's what I learned in the states.

[@wayneking6694]

Watching this before my chem exam tomorrow

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Good luck!!

[@mercury6800]

I wrote mine today

[@elliekerstiens1916]

Transition state chemistry my beloved

[@gudmundurjonsson4357]

As long as there isnt any yellow in your transiton metal chem im so up for all these colors

[@BackYardScience2000]

At least you credit to all chemistry for giving you the idea. Most people don't do things like that anymore.

[@caffeinato]

I like your custom 80mL graduated cylinder

[@DanielWillems1995]

Nice safe measuring cylinder around 5:04. I don’t know if you have looked around much. But there is some good deals on glassware. I am a research student myself. Glassware from sigma is a CRIME. If you want a heap of cheap beakers go see wiltronics (australia). Westlabs and labgear are also reasonable for other glassware.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Westlabs used to sell to me (It's where I got my hotplate from) but then they deleted my account and you need to get approved to have an account... sad. But yeah, Sigma is always heaps expensive. Chinese glassware is dramatically cheaper, for not much a drop in quality. Thanks for those reccomendations tho!

[@DanielWillems1995]

Extractions&Ire that sucks. Any glassware in particular you looking for still? I know there is some glassware we have excessive amounts of and just collects dust in draws or containers. Can liase via other means if necessary

[@tiggers4ts]

Is the carbonate technically a chelate type formation? I.e. claw. Something like EDTA, occupying to lig and positions? PS love your work… Is it possible to do a one-off page on payment? To watch enough, but would love to see you rig it out/have more fun.

[@juniordouw6681]

Hey, i got a question: i have this weird rock (that i thought was sludge from a mine or something) but its mettallic and magnetic.. not iron it makes this weird dark green liquid after i dissolved it in HCl .. any way i can identify / extract the metals in it if i dunno whats n there?

[@tomasbalnionis1399]

iron (ii) chloride forms pale green solutions so it might be iron but idk i think that this mineral may be pyrite because it is metallic in appearance and weakly magnetic

[@uncle_thulhu]

For gods sake, will some glassware company please sponsor this guy?!

[@ff05t81t]

7:41 “smoooke on the waaater!”

[@potatothings374]

Oh ammonia, you devil. The demon chemical and I finally clashed in my chemistry class, and I must agree with your sentiment against it.

[@pomegranatechannel]

I haven't seen you in a while. Is this your second channel?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

this is the second channel! I tried to post here every two weeks, where as the main channel gets and upload every Mars retrograde

[@SG-bp4lg]

@@ExtractionsAndIre You're my favorite meth cook. Loves and kisses my dude.

[@salemi7438]

The way it goes from pink to blue as it goes from cis to trans is quite poetic

[@jogandsp]

I loved it (as always)! I believe I remember you saying that you dispose of your waste at a professional waste disposal facility. How much does that cost?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

I must have said that I intend to one day.... I keep all the transition metal waste segregated, and one day ill drop it all off. But never done it yet!

[@jogandsp]

@@ExtractionsAndIre If you ever do, let us know how it goes! Also, how much of your chemistry do you do illegally? I always want to do more home chemistry, but I am concerned about unintentionally breaking laws. Not trying to have the ATF throw me in jail for the next 20 years.

[@BacklTrack]

@@jogandsp just have a tannerite dog chilling near your door. And run at the sound of explosions

[@chemlab5038]

OMG really another rainy day 😂😂WHYY!!!

[@chotramnauthprabhu7538]

Making gunpowder with different types of oxidizers, instead of using kno3 use another stronger oxidizer??????

[@SalteaSmurph]

Sweet testies a new video.

[@a2pabmb2]

On the PUMP!

[@jhyland87]

2:03 How do you make those neat graphics? Any specific program? Im not talking about the awesome chalk board molecular art, if that wasn't clear... :-P

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

The program is called Mercury, it allows you to download CIF files and then generate animations. It's a little bit of work, but I agree, it can come off pretty neat!

[@jhyland87]

@@ExtractionsAndIre For sure, actually seeing it rotate as opposed to just a 3d rendering that stays still is pretty fantastic.

[@douro20]

One thing you could do with the cobalt(II) sulfate is show that it is paramagnetic.

[@danielgrantcoleman]

Oh crap. It went from pink to blue. Im pretty sure you are pregnant. Lmao

[@Phred_Phlintstoner]

Lol when you opened the freezer to show it cooling down I immediately started thinking about pickled beets. Mmm

[@-Kerstin]

Awesome

[@cy-enderdot8755]

I love that he uses a broken grad cylinder

[@zenatoday4590]

Could you gime me the article where you read this synthesis? Thanks

[@vexphoenix]

Purple is the opposite of yellow, so that must mean you LOVE purple chemistry, right?!

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

The logic checks out!

[@caryso5014]

nice pentavalent carbon you got there

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

oh no!

[@eiecheverri2]

Could the change from pink to blue be due to the formation of the hexaaquocobalt(III) your HCl is still an aqueous solution and perhaps the amino ligands come off as amonium ions?

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Yes, that could happen too, although that's very pink I believe. Could be a mixture, but generally conc. HCl (even if its only at 32%) has enough chloride there that they dominate over the aquo ligands. Well, that's my feeling anyway

[@WielkiKaleson]

@@ExtractionsAndIre I doubt whether chlorine ions are good enough to stabilise Co(III) complex. Just like water ligands. I used to add hydrogen peroxide to a water solution od CoCl_2 and get nothing (visually). Even Co(II) is not all pale and boring. Tetraedric CoCl_4^2- is bright blue. Just pour concentrated HCl... There is also a cobalt test when you drop a KSCN crystal into a diluted Co^2+ solution and extract a tetraedric cobalt complex into amyl alcohol layer.

[@Metallica4Life92]

isn't ammonia/ammonium bicarbonate solution a buffer? Correct me if I'm wrong. If so, why use a buffering solution for ligand exchange?

[@mykeprior3436]

I had to do this shit in my undergrad, explaining the flipping of the co-ordination. I hated this too.

[@sonsofmeshack3803]

Broken volumetric flask. Now thats fruggal!

[@BothHands1]

hell yeah :D

[@mlop098]

When’s breaking bad’s silver fulminate coming?!

[@ryanatkinson2978]

That's some delicious looking pomegranate juice

[@PaulSteMarie]

Damn it. 40 years later, I finally understand what I was doing in Ch 3a.

[@GrimsBar]

@exractions&Ire have you tried heating the ammonia and ozone generator reaction to over 30 degrees Celsius? It didn't look like you added the activation energy. I know it's not this video, buuuuut just hoping you see this.

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

Like, heating the gas? Or heating the ammonia solution that the ozone goes through?

[@GrimsBar]

Extractions&Ire heating the ammonia the gas goes through. Thanks for the quick response! :) let me grab the paper and I'll link it for you. It's in German buuut yeah. You need activation energy over 30c to cause ozone to react with the ammonia.

[@GrimsBar]

Extractions&Ire pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ba-1972-0113.ch006

[@ExtractionsAndIre]

I'll check it out, thanks!

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Sponsored by Rad: Cobalt Ligands.

[@g-radical349]

seriously underrated comment

[@HighInquisitorBonobotheGreat]

YEE CRYSTULZ