Cessna 172 insane Crosswind Landing - heavy turbulence

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Drew Baum

Drew Baum

Күн бұрын

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@mobius1918
@mobius1918 5 ай бұрын
So many armchair pilots here. As someone with 25 years flying experience, I learned it’s never my place to judge another aviators skill. You got her on the ground. Nicely done. Live, learn, and keep flying.
@videogameplayer0552
@videogameplayer0552 3 ай бұрын
I’m a private pilot, so I can say that he should’ve kept his hand on the throttle during the landing. It’s unsafe to steer with both hands, because it would take significantly longer to add full power in an emergency go around.
@mobius1918
@mobius1918 3 ай бұрын
You control you bud. Real pilots don’t need to judge other pilots’ flying skill.
@videogameplayer0552
@videogameplayer0552 3 ай бұрын
@@mobius1918 This isn’t about “judging other pilots’ flying skills or whatever.” You learn from literally day one as a student pilot to always keep one hand on the throttle in case you need to quickly add power. You should know this, assuming you have 25 years of flight experience.
@videogameplayer0552
@videogameplayer0552 3 ай бұрын
@@mobius1918 I’m curious who taught you flying, because any good CFI would’ve taught you why you should never have two hands on the yoke like in this video. It’s an obvious safety hazard, and you shouldn’t pretend like it’s fine.
@xlhits
@xlhits 2 ай бұрын
@@mobius1918 🎯
@indydrummer101
@indydrummer101 2 жыл бұрын
Since when did we start steering with two hands? Ugh....this is very dangerous as it reduces your ability to add power which can certainly be even more necessary in a strong xwind situation....
@Nottreysongzz
@Nottreysongzz 2 жыл бұрын
its not that big of a deal because he still took the throttle out and he only did it to get more control of the plane on landing
@johnmajane3731
@johnmajane3731 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nottreysongzz it is a big deal and put the outcome in peril.
@jettajake001
@jettajake001 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnmajane3731 100% correct. Updrafts or downdrafts (especially) on short final and hand not on throttle to correct appropriately = airplane damage and or pilot/passenger injuries or worse. OP of video, if you see this = please remember always one hand on yoke/stick and one on throttle when taking off/climbout and approach/landing. You'll thank the ones saying it later.
@johnmajane3731
@johnmajane3731 2 жыл бұрын
@@niyantn actually it is a big deal, it is a habit that will eventually at a minimum damage a plane at worst kill somebody. If the pilot is a CFI he is passing this on to his students which means innocent people are going to get hurt.
@johnmajane3731
@johnmajane3731 2 жыл бұрын
@@niyantn yes there was so many mistakes and or bad piloting in this short video, I only highlighted the most egregious actions. I am also a CFI.
@wheelairrentals7132
@wheelairrentals7132 2 жыл бұрын
No way that was 20 kts of Xwind if you stayed on the runway without full yoke into the wind on landing.
@anac3652
@anac3652 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@jamespage4092
@jamespage4092 2 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@alexzingo6952
@alexzingo6952 2 жыл бұрын
Agree.
@jasonborden2661
@jasonborden2661 2 жыл бұрын
And used flaps
@jakeesco4573
@jakeesco4573 2 жыл бұрын
20 knots with like a 30° crosswind component
@k9ianwarcompany876
@k9ianwarcompany876 2 жыл бұрын
One: Approach speed is ridiculously high, never add more than 15 knots for gust factor. Even then 75 would end you up in a mega float like this guy had. Also being at 80 with gusts puts you mighty close to flap limits. Two: Twenty knot crosswind would have you balancing on your upwind wheel for a while after ground contact to make center line. He had no x-wind correction at all after ground contact. Three: slight turbulence to moderate chop at best buddy, you got some love bumps on short final, probably due to the thermals from the road trying to make it over that treeline as they got blown downwind.
@fgirardoni
@fgirardoni 2 жыл бұрын
four: reduced flap setting in x-wind conditions (even more so at 20kts!!) would make sense
@jerryeinstandig7996
@jerryeinstandig7996 2 жыл бұрын
i want you in my right seat.
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. That's explains the balloon
@andyrottiers6096
@andyrottiers6096 Жыл бұрын
five : no hands on throttle, esp. in a situation where a go around is more likely...
@z06van21
@z06van21 Жыл бұрын
What I am seeing is not a huge cross wind, but very gusty conditions with LLWS. He was absolutely right to carry that much speed on short final. There are a few times where the airspeed indicator dropped suddenly. If that had happened at the normal 60-65 kts, then you are getting dangerously close to stalling 50 ft. above the runway.
@SuperEdge67
@SuperEdge67 10 күн бұрын
‘One hand on the throttle one hand on the control column’…………..every flying instructor in the world on your first lesson!
@brucemckelvy9920
@brucemckelvy9920 2 жыл бұрын
Never take that hand off the throttle. Two hands are not needed on the yolk in any wind condition if trimmed properly.
@jamesfischer7334
@jamesfischer7334 2 жыл бұрын
If you can't spell yoke, don't comment
@brucemckelvy9920
@brucemckelvy9920 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesfischer7334 I can spell it just fine if gmail does not change it on me. As for keeping the hand on the throttle, teach the young lady right instead of criticizing my spelling. She deserves nothing less and it could save her life.
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 2 жыл бұрын
@@brucemckelvy9920 dude. You don't even know how to spell yoke. Never touched an aviation textbook yet you think you can teach flying
@SmozzZy
@SmozzZy 10 күн бұрын
@@brucemckelvy9920haha. You have no idea what youre talking about.
@Deanjacob7
@Deanjacob7 2 жыл бұрын
Always hated that front wheel rattle. Student pilot me: oh and there goes my landing gear😂
@anac3652
@anac3652 2 жыл бұрын
Wheres that crosswind correction
@uzairazizsuria1
@uzairazizsuria1 2 жыл бұрын
From what I could see, he sideslipped the a/c, which kept nose aligned with the centerline
@gordo1163
@gordo1163 2 жыл бұрын
You can clearly see it.
@anac3652
@anac3652 2 жыл бұрын
@@gordo1163 After landing
@wgargan
@wgargan 2 жыл бұрын
He had so much aileron input to the right how could you not see it?
@anac3652
@anac3652 2 жыл бұрын
@@wgargan Im referring to keeping the ailerons pointed opposite of the wind after landing. He kept the yoke level after touching down which I was never taught to do
@Pondimus_Maximus
@Pondimus_Maximus 17 күн бұрын
This comment section is a goldmine of info! All the world's most perfect pilots, all right here, in the same place! Outstanding!
@SP-nt4sr
@SP-nt4sr 12 күн бұрын
So much for keeping that crosswind correction in while taxing.
@diegoramirez8674
@diegoramirez8674 2 жыл бұрын
Ah man this is so upsetting. No crosswind correction after landing, both hands on the yoke, cracy high approach speed.
@FMDev1
@FMDev1 2 жыл бұрын
Did you just completely let go of the controls after landing in a 'major' crosswind? Good way to get in trouble doing that.
@davidr.wilson8194
@davidr.wilson8194 11 күн бұрын
He could have gotten more views with a runway departure into the grass
@joshevans2391
@joshevans2391 Жыл бұрын
As a student pilot with an instructor in a 172 I reckon we did a cross wind landing over two times stonger than that. Was pointing about 30 degrees off centreline before the rollout
@squealingbagpipes1686
@squealingbagpipes1686 Жыл бұрын
there is no way a instructor is going to endanger the life of their student by flying with them in weather like that
@Kaefermicha
@Kaefermicha Жыл бұрын
How to go around when both hands on yoke?
@Sharkx006
@Sharkx006 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm if that was 20 knot crosswind why are Ailerons not into wind after you have landed?
@123fockewolf
@123fockewolf Жыл бұрын
Hand on the Throttle has left the chat.
@jotunblod
@jotunblod Жыл бұрын
That nervous laughter trying to play it cool.
@bangaloremusic
@bangaloremusic 2 жыл бұрын
lol - "it's a rental ..... ima go ahead and beat the shit out of it for clicks"
@ra2186
@ra2186 2 сағат бұрын
I've asked this before and I never get any evidence. Is there any aviation accident ever where it was found that the cause of the accident was two hands and the yolk?
@josephellis2933
@josephellis2933 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a student pilot and I know that the most important time to keep that wind correction in, is at the landing roll.
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 Жыл бұрын
Cause you got zero experience.
@josephellis2933
@josephellis2933 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonMB999 what’s that supposed to mean. Is it not?
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 Жыл бұрын
@@josephellis2933 nope
@josephellis2933
@josephellis2933 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonMB999 the please inform me on when I should have my wind correction in.
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 Жыл бұрын
@@josephellis2933 when landing
@gomachan10000
@gomachan10000 Жыл бұрын
Great landing! I respect you!
@lordcraycray2921
@lordcraycray2921 6 ай бұрын
Little to no crab angle and little to no crosswind correction, and on centerline in strong crosswinds. Not to mention that you got to a full stall landing. I would say that the landing was a miracle!
@littleferrhis
@littleferrhis 15 күн бұрын
He’s sideslipping, rudder for centerline and aileron to correct for drift. You don’t land a Cessna in a crab. That’s a good way to tear up your tires.
@AviationUnscriptedUK
@AviationUnscriptedUK Күн бұрын
Great video! May I kindly request your permission to include this clip in my upcoming episode? Full credit will be given in both the video and the description. Thank you
@michaeljohn8905
@michaeljohn8905 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question pertaining to crosswind landing using a side slip. We are supposed to dip the wing into the wind side and use cross control to maintain centerline correct ? It feels like that’s not natural as the airplane wants to weathervane. Last thing I see these guys let go of the yoke.. is it better to fly the airplane all the way to the ramp ? Or is it ok to let go ? 1 of my CFI,s was really strict on taxing around with correction inputs no matter where we were on the airport. All of this didn’t make any sense until I started doing crosswind landings & take offs and then it seemed to all make sense.
@piloto34HD
@piloto34HD 2 жыл бұрын
First question: Yes, it doesn’t “feel” natural in the beginning of training, but the point of the forward slip is to induce as much drag as possible to lose altitude without increasing airspeed. And yes, the airplane does want to weathervane, we want to prevent that when slipping to land. When slipping, we’re exposing as much of the airplane as possible to the wind which is not very aerodynamic or efficient, hence why it’s so helpful when high and fast on approach. Second question: I’ve been taught to fly it all the way down even after landing with cross wind correction. I learned why when landing with a friend of mine coming in to land at a 21 gusting 34 knot winds, thankfully the winds were mostly a headwind and didn’t exceed the max demonstrated crosswind for the Cessna. But even after landing, the wind and turbulence was so bad that you could feel the plane lifting on one side and feeling very unbalanced even though it was on the ground. Crosswind correction is very important in my opinion and it’s been recommended everywhere I’ve flown. So, never let go of the yoke until you’re absolutely sure you’re done with the flight or just in calm or variable winds then I don’t think it’s a big issue, but it’s good practice to do it every flight. Usually larger heavy jetliner videos show pilots let go of the yoke after landing, that’s probably the reason why some let go, because they see them do it.
@johnmajane3731
@johnmajane3731 2 жыл бұрын
It is simple, use ailerons to keep centered and rudder to keep the fuselage straight
@babyboomer9560
@babyboomer9560 12 күн бұрын
I'm from the high desert next Edwards Air Force Base. Since when do you do stall landings with turbulence and crossing winds? You'd get yourself killed in Lancaster or Mojave doing that.
@Will-j8q1w
@Will-j8q1w 22 күн бұрын
Gotta love all the expert advice from all the you-tube pro-pilot clubs who have never flown an aircraft in their lives...love it. 😆
@Subiwu
@Subiwu 16 күн бұрын
Most of them are correct, whether they are "arm chair pilots" or whatever. This isnt and whether you got taught this way for whatever reason its very risky. Never fly with both hands on the yoke.
@Will-j8q1w
@Will-j8q1w 16 күн бұрын
@@Subiwu I was being sarcastic but I'm assuming the pilot knew what he was doing and he may have already cut the throttle.
@edmoore3910
@edmoore3910 2 жыл бұрын
And in the right seat???
@johnleach7879
@johnleach7879 2 жыл бұрын
Gee, a 20K xwind. I invite you to N.Africa, near Tobruk. On a certain day we were nosing into land at Wheelus AB for gunnery, when suddenly we started going sideways (westward). Copilot Smitty yelled "I can't hold the heading", whereupon Pilot Potter, reknowned for training copiots, said "You've got it, Baby, I'm going to the john", and disappeared. Smitty earned his spurs that day, but the N. Africa wind persists.
@komrad1983
@komrad1983 2 жыл бұрын
No thank you, Africa is a part of ICAO region that is the worst for safety standards in the world.
@rzober89biologia
@rzober89biologia 16 күн бұрын
is that AOA alarm at the and?
@josephwolf1
@josephwolf1 2 жыл бұрын
On strong crosswind, you shoudn't use full flaps. It will be easier to keep the plane on the ground after tuchdown and prevent this hop you had shortly after you tuched the runway.
@holylee30
@holylee30 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think that's full flaps.
@johnmajane3731
@johnmajane3731 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the plane and pilot.
@Fly1024
@Fly1024 2 жыл бұрын
If you look at the flap lever, to the right of the red mixture control knob, it is in the full down position. Meaning full flaps. Also at 0:56 the pilot reaches down and retracts the flaps during rollout; a bad habit to get into!
@johnmajane3731
@johnmajane3731 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fly1024 yep many a Bonanza has been "geared" up on the runway doing that. If you are doing touch and goes in a simple plane like the C-172 it is okay if you look before you move. In an RG no touch and goes.
@Fly1024
@Fly1024 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnmajane3731 Agreed! I fly complex, and during touch and go’s I call out “Have flaps, feels like a flap.” Verifying it does not feel like a tire, which is the landing gear lever.
@kjemad
@kjemad 2 жыл бұрын
what's insane here is the approach speed was actually 80 (!!!!!) knots! no wonder you floated like 2000ft
@Tamaal123
@Tamaal123 5 ай бұрын
Haha for real
@littleferrhis
@littleferrhis 15 күн бұрын
Ok CFI here. A high approach speed is fine, especially in gusty conditions. I found myself at 80 on final plenty a time, and was able to slow it down and hit the thousand footers dead on, it just depends on the winds that day and how you handle the airplane. Flap speed is 85 and even then there’s a barrier beyond that, as long as you try your best to stay below that 85 there isn’t an issue. The high airspeed gives you more control, especially in bumpier/windy conditions, and with a X-Wind landing where you’re just focused on getting the airplane down, you’re trying to land on the runway, not aiming for a short field. That being said there’s no defending the two hands on the yoke on final. This isn’t a 737. If you can’t control the airplane with one hand on windy days, then you need to lift a couple weights here and there(I don’t lift any weights and am able to handle it just fine). The throttle can be used to control a balloon or more importantly go around if need be. You can’t just take your hand off. The taking the hand off the yoke too after landing is a common mistake that just turns into habit for some people. It sucks, but it’s at most a slip up.
@luislima4053
@luislima4053 2 жыл бұрын
In 1987 I made a landing in these conditions in a Cessna 172 (PT-CGG) at the Aeroclube de Brasilia SWUZ. I only got it on a third try.
@waqarsyed6641
@waqarsyed6641 2 жыл бұрын
AWESOME DUDE
@jakeryan56
@jakeryan56 3 ай бұрын
Why on earth do you have both hands on the yoke??
@MrAntiGema
@MrAntiGema 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t 17 kts the max. Demonstrated sidewinds component?
@peter.bremer
@peter.bremer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, he just tells he is a better pilot than a very well trained test pilot. .... Not
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it still happens that you have to land with 20knt.
@muhammadsteinberg
@muhammadsteinberg 2 ай бұрын
So many people get confused by the demonstrated text in the POH. If they were to read the POH completely they would fine (maybe chapter 4, 1978N model,) that it says demonstrated is not a limit and pilot skill is the blah blah. Just loosely paraphrasing, but Cessna does not put a limit on xwind landing. Demonstrated is what they did it at.
@VictoryAviation
@VictoryAviation 2 жыл бұрын
So what part of a 20kt crosswind is insane? Also… as many others have said, taking your hand off the throttle is a very risky move in that phase of flight. You’ll get away with it probably many times, until you don’t.
@diegoramirez8674
@diegoramirez8674 2 жыл бұрын
A direct 20 knot crosswind is quite the crosswind especially for a 172. But yes, both hands on the yoke was painful to watch.
@VictoryAviation
@VictoryAviation 2 жыл бұрын
@@diegoramirez8674 It’s certainly not insane though by any means. That was my point. Plus the bad habit 🤦🏼‍♂️
@SuperEdge67
@SuperEdge67 2 жыл бұрын
There’s NO WAY that’s a 20 knot cross wind, not even close. More like 5kt.
@bibinb.8688
@bibinb.8688 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 2 жыл бұрын
When they say cross wind is 20 knots it doesn't mean it will just sweep you off the runway. You can still sometimes land normally without doing much
@SuperEdge67
@SuperEdge67 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonMB999 How many times have you landed a light aircraft?? Me, a few thousand, I used to be a flying instructor. It’s not a 20kt crosswind!!
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperEdge67 probably as many times as you, if you're being truthful of course. Your words make me doubtful you've ever even been at an airport... 💀. Anyway, if he's making it look so easy that you don't believe it's true, that shows how skillful he is
@SuperEdge67
@SuperEdge67 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonMB999 I flew out of Jandakot Airport in Perth, Western Australia for 20+ years. I have about 7 renewals of my instructor rating, and an aerobatic endorsement. By the way Perth is one of the windiest cities in the world. Frankly I couldn’t care less whether you believe me or not. ANYONE with any flying experience can see that isn’t a 20kt crosswind. Its also more than the max cross for a C172. This is just normal KZbin clickbait.
@davidhurtard9563
@davidhurtard9563 16 күн бұрын
As a flight instructor I advise you to keep your hands on power all time especially in high turbulence environment close to the ground...And on controls when taxiing...
@matthewh4717
@matthewh4717 Жыл бұрын
Good luck, we're all counting on you.
@XKclassHater
@XKclassHater Жыл бұрын
0:31, sir was that your stall horn?
@Kobe248ify
@Kobe248ify 14 күн бұрын
Hands always on throttles, whether its 172, 757 or even A320…especially when its gusty
@bentcrazy1324
@bentcrazy1324 Ай бұрын
Nice. Try flying in Australia during summer - turbulence is terrible.
@FranklinZulualpha
@FranklinZulualpha 2 жыл бұрын
What's that noise
@HoundDogMech
@HoundDogMech 2 жыл бұрын
'No Aluminum was hurt in the production of this Video". That's what counts. Just take all these Wannabe Instructors comments with a Grain of Salt. Nice job Bro.
@bige6560
@bige6560 14 күн бұрын
CFII here, not sure why this video is getting hate. It was a good landing by rhe instructor. No need to get your panties in a twist over a two handed flare.
@d_kortman
@d_kortman 2 жыл бұрын
0:59 sounded like ambient gunfire for COD Warzone LMAO just about started fucking ducking and weaving
@paulrasmussen9186
@paulrasmussen9186 2 жыл бұрын
Full flaps?
@willburrito9710
@willburrito9710 2 жыл бұрын
Where’s the aileron into the wind after touchdown?
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 2 жыл бұрын
In the book
@av8or971
@av8or971 2 жыл бұрын
wow... that was some pretty insane right stick.
@NeedtoSpeak
@NeedtoSpeak 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure about the data provided regarding winds. What’s with using 2 hands on the wheel…..always, ALWAYS have one on the throttle!
@floydblue1783
@floydblue1783 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, last time I landed a 172 with strong crosswinds, I had to land in one main wheel and crabbing heavily 🤔🤨
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 2 жыл бұрын
Your dreams don't count
@eddiemoreno5856
@eddiemoreno5856 2 жыл бұрын
That was NOT a 20kt crosswind component. It was probably a wind at 20kt slightly off the nose. Isn't max demonstrated crosswind on a 172 something like 15kt? Are you trying to tell us you were exceeding limitations?
@thempl5050
@thempl5050 2 жыл бұрын
Eddie, x wind is not a limitation. Now if you crash and x winds were more than the demonstrated crosswind, your going to have a hard time with the insurance company
@muhammadsteinberg
@muhammadsteinberg 2 ай бұрын
People need to read the POH thoroughly. In chapter 4 (?) It specifically talks about pilot skill being the limiting factor. Demonstrated only means they demonstrated it at 15kts. I wish People would read the POH and stop regurgitating that false information.
@johnmajane3731
@johnmajane3731 2 жыл бұрын
So a few things wrong. First off as others have mentioned one hand on the throttle the other on the yoke. Something goes wrong near the ground you will need the throttle quickly. Just bad form. Second when you landed you should have had full aileron into wind as you rolled out. If there was a real 20 knot cross wind (Doubtful) a high wing plane can easily tip up on a wing. Third you let go of the controls as you rolled out on the runway, just inviting a loss of control. I think you may be an instructor since you are flying from the right seat. Bad example for the student.
@MrMarkguth
@MrMarkguth 2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it, exactly what I was thinking
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 2 жыл бұрын
so a few things wrong. First of all you have no reason to be "(doubtful)" of the 20 knot crosswing, if you fly at all you will know that the active weather has have gaps and will not always just swoop you out the runway. Secondly, no, it is not mandatory to have 'one hand on throttle, one on yoke', if that's what makes you feel safe you are free to do it, give your 'safety tips' to the people you teach. I don't see any negative in holding the yoke with 2 upon landing if someone is happy with everything. It doesn't take 20 seconds to get your hand back there. Go arounds don't come out the blue, if you can't sense a go around +-10 seconds in advance i don't know if you should be flying in the 1st place. Thirdly, on the ground a plane is not controlled with a yokestick, it's the rudders, letting go of the yokestick doesn't cause "loss of control", though it is advised to orientate your controls according to the wind.
@MrMarkguth
@MrMarkguth 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonMB999 aileron into wind always, I was taught, a gust slapping the control surfaces isn’t good either, that’s why they invented control locks, and no it definitely wasn’t 20 Kts, seen it and done it enough to know better
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrMarkguth if you're telling me about what you were taught at this point, it means you've still seen nothing, and most definitely know nothing. You'll get there hopefully.
@johnmajane3731
@johnmajane3731 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonMB999 clearly you have no clue or were very poorly taught. 1) There was no 20 knot crosswind that was clear. 2) You always keep your hand on the throttle when not doing other tasks because that close to the ground you only have seconds to react. 3) On the ground while rolling out you are still flying. A gust of wind can lift a wing and wreck the plane. Even taxiing the correct control input is need to prevent that keep the controls from banging around. This guy demonstrated everything you could do wrong short of crashing in a few minutes. That you are defending this tells me you are probably a Microsoft captain with no real experience.
@Dan-cn3ei
@Dan-cn3ei Жыл бұрын
If there was such a cross wind why doesn't he have the ailerons rolled all the way in and his hands on the control
@nn-lh8he
@nn-lh8he 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure why everyone is so critical, he put it down on the runway safely which is all that matters damn
@eurekamoe3744
@eurekamoe3744 2 жыл бұрын
@n n please read my opinion on the video.
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 2 жыл бұрын
It's the general 'pilot' culture, they all want to prove that they know better
@robertshaver4432
@robertshaver4432 Ай бұрын
Yes I agree with indydrummer101 (and others). Always keep one hand on the throttle, especially in inclement weather landings.
@HoundDogMech
@HoundDogMech 2 жыл бұрын
PA32-300 Demonstrated Crosswind is 17 KIAS Maximum crosswind component KHUF Runway 5 Sanded, Wind 330@25G33 cleared to land. Used about 9000' and advised to taxi back on runway as taxiways were not yet cleared or even sanded. Touched down @ 106 left wheel then right & nose, Full left aileron & Rudder till nose wheel touches. Fun Ride. You do what you have to as Alternate was 0-0 in BLSN.
@bangaloremusic
@bangaloremusic 2 жыл бұрын
LOL - so you added 30 kts landing speed to an 6 kt gust component? talk about adding a tremendous amount of unnecessary risk
@lucianonisi6987
@lucianonisi6987 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what pilot let’s go of yolk on landing? Thanks good video of what not to do
@bowhuntinoh
@bowhuntinoh 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a few that required some work to get it done
@PilotFun101
@PilotFun101 2 жыл бұрын
Great landing!
@grayrabbit2211
@grayrabbit2211 Жыл бұрын
Crosswinds? No crab?
@jparanica
@jparanica Жыл бұрын
Scary bit of flying here:( 2 hands on the controls, gotta keep a hand on the throttle!!!!
@Kate-pb7yq
@Kate-pb7yq 2 жыл бұрын
That speed coming in was ridiculous. Unsafe, overhandling of aircraft. Get your hand on the throttle
@eric514
@eric514 2 жыл бұрын
Why put flaps ??? It’s way easier to control the plane in gusty xwind without flaps…..
@mianatwood
@mianatwood 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t think it’s 20kts x-wind cuz the ailerons look totally normal so…. Also never used 2 hands to land… it seems like you are sitting in the right seat so maybe an instructor… or just cfi in the making? Or just some random safety pilot?
@DNModels
@DNModels Жыл бұрын
The video speed has been meddled with.
@jmy6050
@jmy6050 9 ай бұрын
If it's windy, don't take your hand of the yoke, even after you've landed. Wind can damage your control surfaces etc.
@fromthepeanutgallery1084
@fromthepeanutgallery1084 2 жыл бұрын
For a minute I thought he had a bleating sheep in the back.
@ethanzhang5683
@ethanzhang5683 2 жыл бұрын
It’s useful during strong crosswinds to land with flaps 20, you can try that next time
@luisfeliciano5573
@luisfeliciano5573 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a bumpy final with wind shear
@komrad1983
@komrad1983 2 жыл бұрын
not even close to wind shear
@harrisonsimmons8367
@harrisonsimmons8367 2 жыл бұрын
Better technique would’ve made it easier. Also, centerline is over there 👈🏼
@stevepennell1
@stevepennell1 2 жыл бұрын
Heavy turbulence! More like light chop!
@larrypnh
@larrypnh 2 жыл бұрын
Kids Stuff! I am from Amarillo, TX
@jimhayden7132
@jimhayden7132 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting to see the xwind and turbulence
@jsmith8891
@jsmith8891 21 күн бұрын
No hand on the throttle 🤔..
@chucklemasters6433
@chucklemasters6433 7 күн бұрын
if he ever lands like that in a REAL wind he will be in serious trouble
@lakerenegadepilot6211
@lakerenegadepilot6211 2 жыл бұрын
If he was CFIing then putting the flaps up right after touchdown not a great example.
@irishcurse65
@irishcurse65 2 жыл бұрын
20kts? No correction on the ground. I dont think it was 20 knots or even close. Your approach speeds were way too fast. Flaps 20 at those wind speeds. Any turbulence was induced by you
@believeachieve2847
@believeachieve2847 11 ай бұрын
Awesome vid but hand on the throttle at all times during landing for toga
@romeomike3945
@romeomike3945 2 жыл бұрын
*Wipe’s palm* let’s go to work!
@simonklaassen2145
@simonklaassen2145 7 күн бұрын
I think that most of the people in the comment section of this video agree that there are a lot of big no go’s in this video. People should next time review and debrief their videos before posting them
@capybara6008
@capybara6008 2 жыл бұрын
w e l l i n g t o n
@tccarter7369
@tccarter7369 2 жыл бұрын
Hand on throttle!!!! Don't stop flying after landing!
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. He should continue to pretend he's flying while on the ground and make sounds with his mouth like a 5 year old. Great advice
@Hk-uw8my
@Hk-uw8my Жыл бұрын
@@jasonMB999 dont stop flying =crosswind corrections on the ground. Basic pilot knowledge. The video claims a 20kts crosswind so it's definitely not something to miss,even if you're flying a b737, so on a c172 the outcomes can be more spectacular.
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 Жыл бұрын
@@Hk-uw8my It's a choice weather you want to keep cross controls after landing or not, you will use your own intuition at your discretion, so don't tell me about basic knowledge here. A 737 is actually more prone to winds than a c172...¬ bigger surface area for wind to influence. So you can't say that if a b737 suffers then definitely a 172 should suffer more, that shows obvious lack of understanding. Before you get all excited, I fly light airctafts and family members of mine fly bigger planes, and it is from our discussions that i understood that a big planes are more affected, and its quite logical too because they have bigger surfaces.
@Hk-uw8my
@Hk-uw8my Жыл бұрын
@UC5MY73RKWCEPNV4xGTdesCQ are you saying that big planes which are heavier and flying faster are more affected by the same wind... an upwind wing of a 737 definitely needs more wind to get raised with the consequences that you should ve learned before calling you a pilot, and i can tell that cross controls are not a choice once you ll see how scraping a downwind tip and/or a runway excursion look like.
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 Жыл бұрын
@@Hk-uw8my instead of just running the mouth why don't you get a license, 500+ landings, make friends with some experienced airline pilots learn something then you can try to start a meaningful discussion. I said what I said, explained in simple terms, if you don't understand, then it's clearly not meant for you. You don't sound like you even know the landing speed difference between a b737 and a sr22. Keep up with being a KZbin pilot. And you're severely editing your comment, that's easy proof you don't know what the hell you're talking about...
@pilotpawanc
@pilotpawanc 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking whether you would ever be able to touch down. Good job cap.
@CC-mj3zq
@CC-mj3zq 2 жыл бұрын
I love how all the instant critics and experts pop up that weren't even there lol.
@jasonMB999
@jasonMB999 2 жыл бұрын
It's the general 'pilot' culture, they all want to prove that they know better
@ethanhiggins4887
@ethanhiggins4887 2 жыл бұрын
Hope hes not a cfi
@respectpill882
@respectpill882 2 жыл бұрын
Great safe landing! With this crosswinds i can understand the natural human way to hold that stick tight both hands. Lots of pros here might have never crosswinds like that.
@TENpilot
@TENpilot 2 жыл бұрын
Too high speed. And please, allways keep a hand in throttle during T/O and APP/LDG.
@mahnkemachine3281
@mahnkemachine3281 Жыл бұрын
Yeah…. As others have said, no way that was a 20kt crosswind. What was the crosswind component? 5? Granted, I’m no instructor, but like others have said here, if it was a 20kt crosswind, and you didn’t put in full aileron correction into the wind, let alone not dancing on the pedals, you would have been blown off the runway. I went up with my instructor while I was working on my PPL on a day where the winds were 17G25 directly across the runway. He was having me take off and land on 4, taxi to the end, turn around and do it again on 22. Wash, rinse, repeat. There was NO WAY I could just let go of the yolk on rollout! Once on the ground, it was full correction into the wind. And my legs were sore from dancing on the pedals to keep it on the centerline after an hour.
@Heatherder
@Heatherder 2 жыл бұрын
Bro this is every day at KFLY
@thomasw.richter5212
@thomasw.richter5212 Жыл бұрын
Indeed insane not to give right ailerons after landing and keep the hands off…
@AV8R767
@AV8R767 Ай бұрын
80kts approach? Bet you floated halfway down rwy, too fast.
@rossm8231
@rossm8231 Жыл бұрын
Go flying in the deserts of the southwest sometime and you will see that this is most definitely NOT “insane” conditions by any stretch. This is a mild breeze.
@DMNSAV
@DMNSAV 23 күн бұрын
If that fellow was a CFI and now at the regionals, I have no words except ummm.
@FlyingIceman198
@FlyingIceman198 2 жыл бұрын
That’s just below light chop..not heavy turbulence
@americanspirit8932
@americanspirit8932 2 жыл бұрын
Great landing, congratulations. This pilot has plenty of Common Sense
@dope4109
@dope4109 2 жыл бұрын
Sarcasm
@rodris8461
@rodris8461 2 жыл бұрын
No way this is a 20 kt xwind.. maybe 9 or 10 knots maximum..
@flymeaway1216
@flymeaway1216 2 жыл бұрын
keep that hand on the throttle!!! way to dangerous
@alanedwards8834
@alanedwards8834 Жыл бұрын
All the backseat ‘pilots’ commenting sitting on their chairs stuffing their faces with crisps.
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