| Private Pilot Landings | How To Land | Cessna 172

[@sachak]

That landing was the definition of perfection. I couldn't even tell the wheels had made contact with the surface. Well done!

[@PaulA-zp7hn]

There I was waiting, hanging on for the touch down and it never seemed to happen. The landing was that damn smooth. Incredible.

[@NEROAviation]

Money 💰 ... I then tell my students let’s see that again and it always goes to 💩. Lol

[@ctsteve1967]

@@NEROAviation some time it does

[@PilotArsh]

Yes i was too waiting for the landing jerk.....but his experience tricked us🤣🤣🤣

[@ozzie-sk9dh]

Nice flying. You have a great instructor there. He's transferring his knowledge but also his experience to you. Nice student teacher relationship.

[@NEROAviation]

Makes it easy when I have great students!

[@mjudec]

Yeah, it's brilliant hearing them always chatting about where they could land if need be at the start. Really important to think about that in winds. Also good that the student is thinking about how the pattern flying of otehr planes is affecting his decision making and the possible consequences.

[@murphmccall6942]

mjudec ewft

[@urbancommute5239]

@@NEROAviation .....How can I become your student?

[@TheHotrod03]

@@urbancommute5239 I have the same question. I'm in Spokane, WA

[@chasemorgan7545]

Not sure how I feel about the landing technique the instructor is teaching. He keeps power in for too long, and ends up using half the runway to bleed it off. Everyone flies a bit differently, but I personally go power to idle once I know the runway is made and try to touch down by the 1000 foot markers. Gives much more room if you need to stop quickly or go around.

[@imac84]

That's how I was taught too. Idle once the runway is made.

[@NEROAviation]

Idle once runway is made works fine... power is a tool you can use to land it’s not one you have to use. I teach short field landing technique In the next stage. These are just normal landings and I encourage minimal breaking and using aerodynamic breaking and energy management to exit at the midfield taxiway as it lessens wear and tear on the aircrafts tires/breaks. Thanks for watching ! I’ll try to get a short field / soft field video up at some point.

[@hjahongir]

after he learns what is it to land, then he can try yours, which is more efficient/safe, but hard to learn.

[@christophermichaelson9050]

Seems like keeping some power in was a good move, considering the gusts that day....

[@chasemorgan7545]

Christopher Michaelson a little power during gusts for sure but they had way to much. Gusty day or not no reason to float halfway down the runway

[@carrvillnerve7180]

i couldn’t even tell you landed on that first one really good job keep flying

[@jwalls-ss7kj]

Yea that first landing was nice!

[@Trickedwizard]

I know right there was no bumps or anything

[@dreworoirden7675]

If only I could feel as confident as this instructor sounds. Respect to you CFI.

[@NEROAviation]

Fly more! You’ll be confident in no time ...then make sure your not overconfident (which is maybe more dangerous). Pretty much all I do is spout out what the Airplane Flying Handbook says while the student does all the work. Thanks for watching and for the compliment!

[@searay3400]

That is one of the best camera locations I have ever seen..real nice video makes you feel like your in the cockpit riding along.

[@vinylgroovin747]

The student's situational awareness in the traffic pattern is impressive. You can tell he is modeling his instructor's good habit of thinking and talking through everything.

[@NEROAviation]

Thanks! He was an easy student! Almost always a student saying what their doing instantly improves their flying.

[@hefeibao]

It was neat to see him do his own radio calls too - was this his first time doing landings? The first time I did landings it was all I could do to concentrate on the flying part.

[@commonsense31]

Danm that was a smooth landing, didn’t even see it make contact with the runway

[@ctsteve1967]

That is how everyone should be taught, land with power. I have Been preaching that for ever.

[@kefir8257]

One shall not flare with his pitch, but with his throttle.

[@PILOTKRIS777]

Bro they been teaching me wrong I knew to land with power sometime 1500 rpm not enough

[@tonyc2761]

As a new pilot, flying by yourself, you have to talk to yourself as this instructor is talking to this guy. Adjusting flaps and speed, looking for visual indicators regarding wind, looking for air traffic in the vicinity, and a half dozen other things all going on at once. Lots of work! You really have to know what to do and why you're doing it. Pretty good video. 👍

[@NEROAviation]

Thanks ! I get quieter the more the student talks. The less I talk the happier everyone is lol. I still talk myself through the checklist as I fly around solo. Thanks for watching and the great comment !

[@canconservative8976]

The instructors comment about focusing on the landing 4:46 (after the aircraft had touched down) is very good.... the student was commenting about other steps... wait till you are clear of the runway, because technically you are still flying the aircraft.

[@NEROAviation]

Yep! A lot of accidents happen after the plane touches down, stay frosty!

[@jonathanwetou3051]

Best instructor I've never ever seen before and his student feel in confidence for great learning,in conclusion this is a best pilot maker

[@Ninja-qm8bp]

Must say, that second landing was amazing

[@gb9926]

Very positive and calm CFI.. better than I had years ago!

[@shawflygirl]

This gave me so much information. I only had two lessons and had to change CFI's because he was always late and the second lesson gave me so much anxiety because he was over half an hour late and i felt unprepared and rushed due his next lesson 20 mins before the end of my hour. Moving to an aero club closer to home but where it's a private club and the instructors all get high appraisal. Third lesson overall tomorrow and first with my new instructor :) Wish me luck

[@xlhits]

How was the 3rd lesson?

[@jcheck6]

Smart move and glad you did not waste your time/$$$ with him after the second lesson. Hopefully you have your license now.

[@Ezel21love]

The instructor is great teacher, very clear and easy technique

[@irandoosty]

I like how this CFI keeps bringing up engine out possibilities.

[@cq7415]

Fun to watch, several landings and takeoffs. Thanks for sharing.

[@christopherbowers7219]

This has been one of the best videos i've seen!! Great work!!

[@NEROAviation]

Thanks !!!

[@whitehedr]

Nicely done. This video brings back memories from when I was learning. Your communication with your instructor is great.

[@jcarrandson]

Jesus that second landing I thought you were still in the air!

[@muhammadsteinberg]

Nice landings but for my taste they're too high. Nothing's etched in stone but I normally carry 70kts if there's a xwind or gust with minimal flaps. I notice a lot of instructors insist on teaching flaps flaps flaps on every landing. It's actually good to practice on days with xwinds and learn how to use minimal flaps. Gives less surface area and better control especially if you're slipping the landing. Overall good instructor though.

[@dustintravis8791]

Thanks for letting us fly along!

[@HitsOutdoors]

Oren is awesome.. A day with him and I was nailing landings and pattern speeds..

[@lyingcat9022]

Well. Good. For You.... ;) haha jk seriously that’s awesome! I really really want to fly :( But Covid and having a Child makes it next to impossible to afford my PPL

[@geoffc1385]

Carb heat should go back to cold at about 250-300 feet so you have max power available if you need to go around. It,s also good to do down wind checks including undercarriage even though cessna have fixed under carriage so it's routine when you move up to complex aircraft.

[@NEROAviation]

When it comes to carb heat I default to whatever the POH says. Cessna did a nice job of putting the carb heat in an easy to reach position for the go around. A GUMPS check isn’t a bad idea to get in the habit of using. I use the before landing checklist when returning to the pattern and I teach a T check but I don’t require students to use it for pattern work. Thanks for the suggestions / observations. I like the idea of incorporating the GUMPS check in Private Pilot training

[@hogey74]

Nice vid! This is a different kind of circuit to what I learned. You're turning at 700ft agl, staying a lot tighter then you descend much more steeply and land much further down the runway. Interesting. You have a lot more vertical speed in that last segment too. At 30:07 I thought it looked about right but you guys judged it low. I like the rainy day flying too!

[@pesto12601]

Thanks you for the video... learned a great deal and it was nice to see 5 landings all different in one video training session!

[@Notinserviceij]

I just got into a Commercial Aviation course. I start next year. This type of Video is awesome, great for extra knowledge, awareness and confidence going into it. I have done an introductory flight and loved it(reason why I'm now in the course) I'll be in a Piper but still this was fun informative watch :)

[@NEROAviation]

Notinserviceij , I learned in a Piper warrior and it’s not all that different. Make sure to at least pretend to use rudder in the piper it hardly needs any and can really show up when you transition to other aircraft. Good luck and blue sky’s !

[@Notinserviceij]

@@NEROAviation Thats awesome! haha I'll keep that in mind. X-Plane 11 may come in handy after all. Thanks for the advice, I'm sure I'll be back for more advice and to watch more of your content over my journey. May even upload my own. Thanks again :)

[@N617A]

This is a great video. It really demonstrates how “power for altitude” is more like “power for energy.” There were a couple of parts where he had to manually re adjust the nose after the power change to maintain his speed. Looked great man!

[@1minutecomicswalahollywood648]

31:04 Landing Thank-you very much for this video 📼 .

[@brucejuice169]

Nice landings! That first one seemed flawless!

[@NEROAviation]

“Fortune brings in some boats that are not steered.“ - William Shakespeare Blind squirrel 🐿 🥜etc.

[@jamesconnor9142]

Ground track on final out window same each landing...slight lower on 3rd landing but you acknowledge on final

[@michaelengland7228]

I am sitting at home 11pm in England watching this and I am scared to death. Piloting looks real real hard and I am so glad you other guys and gals are doing it and doing it so well. So thanks to all you pilots.

[@NEROAviation]

Flying is easy I think everyone should try at least once ! We do need passengers though, so thank you!

[@Dan007UT]

If I can do it, anyone can do it

[@thomastucker5686]

I am curious as to why full stop landings versus touch and goes? I like instructor's teaching style, seems like the kind of person I would be comfortable flying with.

[@NEROAviation]

I find that beginning students have better landings if they aren’t worried/thinking about the takeoff. Try watching at your local airport... I’m guessing you might see crappy landing then a crappy takeoff over and over again. Most of the good landings are full stop it seems like ( if you see any lol). Thanks for watching!

[@hefeibao]

I just started learning landings and at a smaller airport like the one shown, or Enumclaw, if there is not a long wait, then for me personally at least I prefer it as it it just more reps in terms of getting the aircraft configured after landing, which lights I have to change, taxing practice, radio calls, and yet more practice for my takeoffs and learning the pattern. My $.02 anyway, YMMV.

[@SiuSiuSiu1970]

Nice instructor for sure! But, it is an quite comfortable field to land on ! If you were in Belgium, for instance, with a grass airfield of 600m - so only 1960 feet - you REALLY have to touch down ON the threshold ! Otherwise... guess what would happen ! So, keeping the aircraft on low power and providing more power if needed to increase altitude is a better way to handle short airfield !

[@NEROAviation]

Yeah I wish the school let us practice on some tougher runways occasionally... but they are all about risk mitigation ( rightly so ). We have a few runways around that would make you feel right at home 1800ft , grass and even trees 🌲.

[@onthemoney7237]

Awesome i just keep watching till it soaks in . Lots of good info lifesaving stuff thanks for sharing 👍👍👍

[@lordquiles2858]

wow, nice land

[@NEROAviation]

lordquiles2, he is a super solid pilot and is now working on his instrument rating.

[@Lizardking413]

Very good pilot and teacher.

[@anthonythompson4718]

Nicely done student and instructor.

[@NEROAviation]

Thanks !!!

[@robs5649]

Can't argue with the results, but I felt the instructor was micromanaging. He never stopped talking. Depends on what stage the student was at I guess.

[@hefeibao]

Well, it can also depend on your learning style, age, etc. I'm an auditory learner and a bit older than most who start flying, so I like the chatter myself, but I can see for others it may be too much. Also, fwiw, I've watched a bunch of videos for people practicing landings and this seems normal? ::shrugs::

[@jonathanwolf5109]

Great videos… is it possible to show close ups of rudder pedal and hand yoke controls in turns? Great instructor at Nero Aviation! Thx👍

[@FAA-DPE]

Wow I wish he could have been my flight instructor! Mine were just time Builders working their way towards a corporate job with the airlines. they weren't really cut out personality-wise to be teachers.

[@rty1955]

I learned from a military instructor. He pushed both me and the plane to the limits. He would argue with ATC when needed and had a great attitude towards flying. His attitude was "im the one in the pilot seat, not ATC" if they ask you to do something that is beyond you or the planes capabilities just say "UNABLE" and let them figure out what to do. Yet when flying into a VERY busy airport in NY, we were just about over the numbers, the ATC told us to keep speed up as we had a A320 eating our rudder. He said if we could take a different runway or go around that would be better. He told ATC he would take another runway to land, stood on the rudder, and turned almost 90° to land on another runway. (winds were calm) I thought the wingtips were gonna eat dirt. The tower thanked him and immediately cleared the A320 to land. During flying he would pull the engine to idle and say "engine quit, what do you do?" If I said "ahhh" he would interrupt me and yell "Your dead! Never think! Just DO, during an emergency. Aviate, navigate, and communicate in that order" We would constantly review emergency procedures water landings, mountain landings, highway landings etc. I was always prepared for an emergency if various types. Once i took off a d i heard a loud bang followed by tremendous noise and clanging from the engine. He was in the right seat and told me "tell the tower we are coming back, I got the plane" I suggested to shut off the engine for fear of fire of it blowing up. He yelled at me "Never shut the engine off unless its on fire or peices are flying off it" when we landed CFR came out to meet us, followed us to the ramp, we shut down and a mechanic investigated and discovered the exhaust manifold gasket blew out causing the bang and loud noise. The clanging was the manifild rattling. It was scary

[@NEROAviation]

Yeah military trains hard and fast it’s amazing how few hours some of their pilots have! I can’t imagine being that driven and squared away when I was in my 20s ... much less now.

[@NEROAviation]

Ripcord! Thanks for watching ! Time building is the sad truth of flight instruction. It’s the blind leading the blind a lot of times. On a positive note there are lots of great instructors out there you just have to search a bit sometimes. When your a instructor you can go out of your way to make sure your students have a better experience.

[@rty1955]

@@NEROAviation my instructor was in his 40s not a kid. I remember with 3 hours under my belt I was coming in for a landing and I was all ovee the sky. We were about 100' off the deck and I said "you take it, i cant land this" he sat there with his arms folded and said "you better land it, or we're going to die". He was very calm and cool

[@farayidarlingtonchaparadza20]

I personally prefer Carb Heat Cold on Final approach to give me that extra oomph incase a Go Around is neccesary. Great video and nice touchdowns on the Centreline there.

[@NEROAviation]

Yeah we just push carb heat forward on the go around. Thanks for watching!

[@JS-os6vk]

5:47 clean transition. tripped me out lol

[@Uncommon_Sense01]

Great video and love the communication from the Instructor! I'd love to have a teacher like that!!

[@tyrease5711]

As I watch this video I’m praying that I get to attend class this coming quarter. Yes a great school to fly at. I was having some issues with medical, but I think it’s is all taken care of and now just waiting for medical very in the mail. Got all signatures except medical and head instructor. Fingers crossed and a great video on landing and pattern altitude I only have sim time. But most is at KPLU and cannot wait to do it for real. Thank you for the video.

[@NEROAviation]

Tyrease Phillips! Cool sounds like your well on your way! I’ll be back instructing for the fall quarter so I’ll see you around! Maybe even get a few flights with you!

[@johnvictorengland7703]

How did it go? I'm in the beginning of my lessons and I love it.

[@avaerena2927]

Had to remind myself it’s not a car - no windscreen wipers! 😂

[@HitsOutdoors]

Really enjoyed this video.. IM at the stage in my schooling where Im doing this exact drill.. Excellent !!!!

[@NEROAviation]

Sweet ! Have fun ! It’s one of my favorite parts of instructing.... although the pattern can get pretty repetitive after the third student of the day, lol. Good luck !

[@gilbertl.680]

Such a great instructional video!

[@ryadmuhomed4568]

Thx for this video from a french pilot (PPL). Most of my flights on cessna 150/152 during my training. Now having more than 5 hours on 172 and still working on my landings and many other pilots told me about this method to add some power during the flare....

[@NEROAviation]

Thanks for watching ! Power is just an extra tool to use ... if your floating down the runway smoothly bring it out as you add back pressure. You’ll find the sweet spot between too much and too little power I just soloed the student from the video and he did a great. job!

[@Datsun280zxman]

One pointer I haven’t heard was to let the front wheel come down naturally instead of pushing down at initial touchdown.

[@NEROAviation]

good point... landing is a lot like takeoff it shouldn't be forced.

[@donlaity4801]

Good student...great CFI.

[@GM-he3um]

Good instructor. 👍🏼

[@lyingcat9022]

Can you exit the left traffic pattern to the right on your down wind and re enter it after those other crazies finished their extended down wind? Kinda do a quick holding pattern abeam the runway? That way if you did have an emergency you could glide in for a short base to finally and still make the runway?

[@NEROAviation]

That is an option but it also puts you in the way of traffic entering the pattern. Sometimes /most times they don’t stop being crazy, lol. It’s common for people to fly a super wide and long pattern ( I don’t get it ). Your going to find yourself in the positron we were and after a while you just learn to adjust as best you can. Exiting the pattern puts us in a position where we can’t reach the runway so it’s about the same. I usually climb as I exit the pattern and loop back to minimize my chances of interfering with other traffic. I usually don’t exit the pattern unless someone is being extra crazy and I feel like there is a collision hazard.

[@lyingcat9022]

@@NEROAviation sound logic :) and safe as possible! Thanks for such a fast reply! Blue Sky’s Brother Man :)

[@soumyadippramanik200]

Dayummmm it was more buttery than the butter chicken I had for lunch... Awesome...

[@ranjrog]

The wind blowing on the top of the wing? Check out the book “Stick and Rudder”!!

[@NEROAviation]

We are referencing actual wind aloft out of the southwest on that particular flight. As we made the upwind to crosswind turn it wanted to roll us over as it gets under the wing. But in the case of the base to final turn where the student mentioned it he is dropping the wing into the wind which is striking the top of the wings and won’t really cause much of an issue. We weren’t talking about lift but the prevailing wind (not to be confused with the relative wind). Is that what you were thinking we were talking about? Or do I still have required reading Lol. I’ll check out the book Stick and Rudder either way! Barry Schiff “the proficient pilot” is pretty good read also. (it’s a available from the library sometimes). Totally unrelated just a good pilot book to read.

[@ranjrog]

@@NEROAviation The reading is still required! I probably can't do it justice but main concept S&R conveys regarding "wind" is that you are in it and don't know which way it is blowing over the ground. This is the important concept even though there are some minor exceptions for gusts and eddies within the air mass. Stick and Rudder, Chapter 6, page 87 is where the information begins!!

[@NEROAviation]

Cool, thanks ! I’ll check it out!

[@coreyjordan2745]

Thank you so much for posting this video. I gotten a lot out of it. Very educational in learning how to fly and land an Cessna 172. And have encourage me in pursuit of obtaining my PPL sometime very soon. So Cool.

[@mrboss20ten]

Beautiful first landing

[@gb9926]

1st landing was a greaser…. Beautiful

[@NEROAviation]

“Even a blind squirrel 🐿 finds an acorn every now and then”

[@TheSilmarillian]

Sham the wing is in the wrong place lol ....Piper driver here welcome from Australia

[@NEROAviation]

The only Piper the school had got retired a few years ago... I miss flying it.

[@alexkazzeo24]

Suggestion; ALWAYS trip the aircraft for any given speed (power adjustment).

[@NEROAviation]

Trim helps !

[@SteenPedersen]

Really nice landings. Always nice to watch others landing. I have never seen the trick using some throttle in the flare / ground effect. I have been using some throttle myself if the planes balloons a little, if the runway is long enough :-)

[@NEROAviation]

Steen Pedersen, throttle is a tool just don’t put your self in a position that you need throttle for a safe landing otherwise it’s worth experimenting with a bit. Thanks for Watching !

[@mauricioamado5975]

Incredibles landings Mr , how do you do for touch the runway in that way? Cheers from Argentina 🛩️

[@aMegaMaxProductions]

Interesting the carb heat stays on for landing. At least where I fly in both Piper and Cessna we always go carb cold short final to get max rpm in the event of a go around

[@RPSchonherr]

The carb heat through landing is how I was trained. It'll prevent condensation in the carb barrel which if enough accumulated and you had to push in the throttle quick could cause a no combustion situation when you need the power. I suppose if you live where it's low humidity all the time it wouldn't be a problem but in Florida humidity condenses fast in a cold carb.

[@NEROAviation]

I leave carb heat on through landing also... although seems like everyone else puts it back to cold for landing. How long does it take for carb ice to form? If I have it back to cold for landing and it iced up I have zero power at worst case. If I have it on hot for landing and I go around at worst I lose 300 rpm if I forget to push it forward. Do what ever your manual says ( Cessna 172 ) carb heat off happens after landing. It’s just after full power on the go around. Best advice is to not be in a position where your dependent on power coming back on once you pull it out.

[@RPSchonherr]

@@NEROAviation Been a while since i ran through the 172 landing and go around check list , but I think you have it correct. On go around : full power , carb heat off, reduce flaps as speed is gained.

[@eclipser2004]

Great video! Very helpful and educational. Keep up the great work. Greetings from Newfoundland Canada.

[@NEROAviation]

eclipser2004 , Thank you ! Flying in Newfoundland has to be fun and challenging!

[@danr597]

Great video and great, instructor and attitude! Curious- do you not teach your students to use trim during landings, just rely on forward/back pressure on the yoke? Haven't flown a 172 in years, and the last ones I flew all had the manual trim wheel between your legs (manual flaps too) but we were always taught to trim them on landing. Anyway, Cheers!

[@NEROAviation]

I teach to trim “as needed” ...I show them they can but let each student decide how much they want to use it . The pressure on the yoke is not all that different than level flight once you have full flaps and power at about 1100 rpm on final approach in a 172. Trim is a great tool and I use it more in other aircraft. Thanks for watching and the great question ! I don’t use trim enough ...good catch.

[@jsteiger2228]

Why are some pilots so eager to trim? Especially Cherokee pilots with the overhead handle....Geez. Trim for straight and level cruise flight and then use the yolk as God intended for everything else. Is the extra pressure on the yolk so bothersome? I just don't get it.

[@PaulRiviere35]

Instructor likes to hear himself talk. Good student

[@asmziauddinahmed1764]

Excellent. Smooth landing as a beginner as well as thanks to Instructor !!! I found a handle at left side of the throttle. Would you please tale me what's the function of it, how it works?

[@NEROAviation]

The black control to the left of the throttle is the carburetor heat... this is an older carbureted Cessna. Any time you reduce power to below the green arc it’s suggested you use carburetor heat.

[@asmziauddinahmed1764]

@@NEROAviation Thanks for the reply.

[@Ramp10er]

Nice Landing... Really smooth...

[@NEROAviation]

Pretty sweet to watch students put it all together and figure out landing! Pre solo is one of my favorite parts of instructing.

[@manrain5358]

Great flights. It is a pity that the work of trimmers is not visible or they were not used at all?

[@laneman8777]

I was taught like this video to use flaps as needed. Other pilots have told me this is wrong, and that you should always add 1 notch on downwind, 2nd notch on base, and 3rd notch on final???

[@NEROAviation]

“As needed” ...Putting thought into when flaps are needed and use them accordingly is of course the right answer! I think the fact you decide when to use flaps pretty much wins the argument. There are lots of reasons to use flaps as needed instead of just adding them automatically. Keep flying smart! We may get a few haters arguing the thinking method and saying we “need” flaps on base but the argument is pretty weak.

[@aztecwarrior1421]

But if it's is very windy do not use flaps

[@ericmarciano075]

Indeed, I was taught to use flaps differently : 1 notch on downwind, 2nd notch in final and usually that's it, unless the 3rd notch in final. This interest is that when the aircraft is correctly trimmed, you just have to reduce throttle to start a perfect descent at 400 ft/min

[@Trust291]

That is awesome man! You gonna be teaching soon.

[@dalzmar]

Very nice landings

[@thebestken]

Don't know who is good, student or the instructor. Awesome landings.

[@angelnunez8065]

What is the configuration for the gopro (fps, ISO, resolution, etc) ?. The exterior looks beautiful

[@NEROAviation]

1080p 60fps with a # 2Nd filter. I also shoot in 2.7k but half the time I can’t see a big difference and the battery dies faster.

[@NEROAviation]

ISO is auto max 800

[@irandoosty]

Great instructor

[@kch2005]

Amazing video. 2 questions: 1. Why do you add flaps when you still have power in? I mean you could start by reducing power and then Add flaps? 2. ISome recommends doing most landings power off (so glidepath is adjusted by flaps) so be ready for an emergency landing, what do you think about?

[@NEROAviation]

Once the power comes out don’t expect it to come back in. I reduce power to 1500 rpm abeam the numbers and leave it until flaps are all in and I’m on final with the runway made. If I’m high I reduce power. If I’m low I leave power in until I have the runway made. For each notch of flaps I decide first if I can make the runway if my engine dies. If you chop power out and then put in flaps and find yourself low and try adding power and it doesn’t power up your in a bad spot. If I have power at 1500 and my engine dies I just pitch for best glide and land it adding flaps if I need/want them. Try not to ever be in a position where you need more power to make the runway. Hope that makes sense... it’s easy to explain when flying. If they need to add power on final they put in flaps too early. Great question hope I answered it!

[@kch2005]

@@NEROAviation Thanks for the answer. I really like the concept of adding flaps as needed, using them as a tool. But it would seem that if that was comined with power off approaches, you would really be proficient in landing without engine (if that was your normal). If you adjust your glidepath with flaps, based on having 1500' rpm, wouldn't that mean that you would not reach the runway if the engine quit? Even though I'm mainly flying 1500' grass strips (C172 S), I like the idea of softening the touch down with a little power. How often do you practice power off approaches? Once again, thank you for your videos, it is really outstanding. Great instruction right there! Best Regards, Kenneth from Denmark.

[@NEROAviation]

We do short field approaches (power out ) all the time.... basically for that you have flaps at full, power at 1500, and hold 60kts until you get the sight picture you want ( it changes with wind velocity). When you get the sight pic you want you pull the power and pitch down to hold 60kts. If your set up the same each time. You can learn to judge the sight pic and hit exactly where you want since your always set up the same and just have to judge the wind. I personally aim a little short and just drag it in with power at the very end (be careful with that though as it can get you on the back side of the power curve and drop out fast leaving you short) Power is just a tool. I use it when I need it but I try not to ever rely on it. I try to always be within gliding distance of the runway when I’m in the pattern. That’s how I decide to add the next notch of flaps. I mentally ask “if my engine dies and I lose my 1500rpm could I make it”.... yes = more flaps. Have fun on those 1500ft grass field! My current land based 172 is a dog and I’m glad I don’t have to worry about short field. I use power even more in the seaplane. I have to drag it under the normal landing pattern since our seaplane base is co located at a busy airport.

[@THEJIG-IS-UP]

Greetings from Arkansas. I love the videos

[@jeantsaiaviation]

My instructor wants me to do 80kt on downwind,70kt base,60kt final.

[@NEROAviation]

Do what ever your instructor says. 60 is normally reserved for your short field approach as it is the low side of your Cessna recommended approach speeds. I usually save 60 for short short final. I would suggest you try a faster approach speed with your instructor and you can both get a feel for it and decide if you guys like it. 60 is only a little slower and you probably won’t notice a big difference. Your instructor however might see that it gives you a bit more time to land and that his students over all land a bit easier ( they have a bit more time to learn how to land each time) The other reason I teach 65 is that if you go a little under 65 on accident your still above 60. If you go a bit below 60 on your approach your getting in to dangerous territory for a new pilot (any pilot). I like having some fudge factor. Always do as your instructor suggests but ask to try stuff with your instructor so you can at least see and feel the diffenece. I have over 3000 hours and I’m still learning from my students and subscribers here on KZbin all the time. Have fun and fly more !

[@orangebetsy]

Beginner here, no flight time, just learning basics. I watched some videos on altimeter reading, setting and the different types of altitudes, the science...but i don't get why? Isn't it possible to know the altitude via GPS, or bouncing radar or sonar or something off the ground? Like an instrument that changes on its own, for any and constantly updates you? I'm figuring that since everything in aviation seems to orbit around safety and the minimizing of risks, there is a good reason.

[@NEROAviation]

Don’t over think it ... lol. 1. A simple mechanical altimeter is cheap ( relatively ), robust , and accurate enough. 2. Solar flares, EMP or a dead battery not effecting your required flight instruments can be reassuring. 3. Not all planes have electrical power to run a GPS/ advance avionics. 4. New planes and new avionics are crazy expensive so a lot of the general aviation planes you see flying around are 20-50 years old. In the end though your looking out the window when you land so a perfect altitude is really not that important (in most situations). Great question, thanks for watching! Hopefully I gave you enough of an answer to satisfy most of your curiosity. There are other factors as well but in the end it’s cost , weight and if it works good enough most of the time. “If it’s not broke, don’t fix it” is an aviation standard lol.

[@Hanna144]

Most of the tried and true technology is from 100 years ago, and even modern avionics is fairly recent. Radar altimeters have been around for a while, but for GA aircraft its expensive and - worse - adds weight (we are flying "light" aircraft). GPS is actually very very recent; when I got my license the network was planned but not close to operational; and was intended to be restricted to the military. - and I'm not a grandfather lol. (Minor aside - it is stunning how much has changed, even over the last 10-15 years). Most of the GA fleet is a lot older than that. Another reason, entirely related to safety, is redundancy. Barometric altimeters don't need electricity, so when the power fails, you still have an analog instrument that will get you down. There's an AOPA video around on KZbin about a guy who lost all his power in IMC (over Paris, Texas). If his altitude instruments required electricity, that guy wouldn't be alive today. Even for land nav, I teach all my guys map and compass way before we ever get to the GPS.

[@sunbulah9779]

The faster the plane the more sensitive flight controls are and vise versa.

[@eduardogrillo3829]

Nice video! I’m in my third lesson and can feel exactly like if I was flying! Just a question, how and where did you hook up your GoPro? Your angle is the best I’ve seen for a Cessna 172.

[@NEROAviation]

Eduardo , I hang it from the front windshield on the copilot side so I don’t bug the student ( I would like to have it on their side ). I try to put it just below my eye level and slightly between us so it’s doesn’t block my or the students view. I’m also finding I like to point the camera down a bit so you can see the full yoke movement as it makes for a better video I think . Thanks for watching! The GoPro 7 is awesome for flight and has handled most micro vibration . I have only had a couple minutes of unusable video on take off. Good luck filming your flights it’s cool to have the memory’s and the video ! If you have an older GoPro a suction cup on the Rosen visors ((if installed ) ( tinted see through visor )) can smooth out the vibration and give good video.

[@eduardogrillo3829]

NERO AVIATION, Wow! This is the most prompt answer ever! You’ve got a new subscriber. Thanks for the tips on where to hang GoPro and congrats for the videos.

[@NEROAviation]

Thanks for subscribing !

[@tonybanjo]

Nice flying, great instructor. Subscribed.

[@NEROAviation]

Thank you Tony !

[@ch4ob4y]

Great video ! Enjoy.

[@NEROAviation]

Thank you !

[@paul14ify]

Cool instructor

[@ewoski]

Funny, I just stumbled across this video and realized this is the airport I train out of!

[@10AT166]

I think this Cessna have failures on some needles on panel and also the artificial horizon dont function property on 27:57 isnt?

[@NEROAviation]

Thanks for watching !!! The instruments look reasonably normal to me. Instruments are usually a bit behind ( lag) what the plane is actually doing. The horizon is also hard to make out as it was a low vis day. This is not a plane we use for IFR though. I wasn’t really paying attention to the instruments though as I don’t use them much in the pattern other than for airspeed and altitude checks. We do go through a fair amount of attitude indicators at the school though. The compass in the aircraft is junk and we will swap it out as soon as it breaks.

[@ppoinha]

final checklist should have carb heat off incase you need go-around :-). guess not so bad, but anyways

[@liams.5536]

Whenever you reduce power you put carb heat in.

[@ppoinha]

@@liams.5536 yup, just saying in the final, carb heat should be off, you lose power if you need to go around. I am just following almost all GA aircraft checklists. Also as a quick go around technique you push all forward, prop, throttle and carb if you have a handle just push them all forward.

[@NEROAviation]

For go arounds I push carb heat in with the throttle and flaps to 20 degrees in the Cessna... and in the Beaver carb heat is back off on final. For me it just depends on how easy it is to reach and what the POH says.

[@philipstubbs7399]

Smooth landings holy moly

[@emmanuelex]

Beautiful landings

[@mml5808]

5:50 that transition messes with my head

[@NEROAviation]

Haha...it’s a pretty trippy transition! I don’t recall doing it on purpose during editing.

[@EnthusiasticCoder]

Amazing front view. Keep them type of videos coming...

[@NEROAviation]

Thanks ! Will do ! I just recorded 200 gigs of new video! now I just have to edit it 😭.

[@ericalumumbah4795]

ok that land was smooth pretty too smooth

[@bg2dajake]

looks like the western washington area if im not mistaken

[@NEROAviation]

Totally correct !

[@DNHarris]

Do you have info on your setup. I am going to finish my PPL in a month and would love to have a similar FOV.

[@NEROAviation]

I use a Joby mount with the GoPro 7 inverted. The audio is a lapel mic with the go pro adapter. I put the mic inside my headset ear cup. Normally I use 1080p and 120 or 60 frames per second. I try to use 24 frames but it never works well. Also a filter is important Nd4 works usually.

[@DNHarris]

@@NEROAviation Thank you so much for the help!

[@NEROAviation]

No problem! I attach the go pro to the center of the windshield right up at the top edge. If you have Rosen visors installed ( the sun shades you can look through ) they make the best place to mount your camera as it will absorbe some of the vibration and makes for a sharper video.

[@DNHarris]

@@NEROAviation You're still able to get the instruments with that FOV? Awesome. I'll be using a Hero8 which has similar DOF as the 7, I believe.

[@NEROAviation]

Yeah wide is plenty don’t use super wide. Good luck! The 8 is awesome and voice control is handy when flying solo.

[@ericehrhardt-yl6zd]

This is excellent. Thank you

[@ericehrhardt-yl6zd]

This is excellent. Thanks!

[@therealjeff-0459]

So much of flying is how it looks feels and sounds.

[@NEROAviation]

I hear you ! Students rarely understand how important “feel” and sound are to flying. Feel is super hard to convey to in my opinion ... I find myself saying “stop flying so much” to all my students! It’s crazy to see how little input you need to fly a plane ( what’s the auto pilot do with the yoke ... almost nothing ). In fact I think most pilots pretend to fly and spend most of their time fixing the inputs they just put in. I’m surprised how many pilots look like they are driving an old ford pickup ( if you have driven one you know what I’m talking about and if you haven’t your lucky lol)

[@1vod1vo78]

when he landed?!?!?!? BUTTER

[@avrpassport3586]

Oh my goodness that was a landing?