Cessna 337 Skymaster - Cost to Own

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Complete Walkaround

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What does it actually cost to buy and own a Cessna 337 Skymaster? In this short video we break down the Cessna 337 Skymaster Cost of Ownership and let you know exactly what your get for your money. And how much of your money it will take.
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In addition to annual costs, we cover the cost per hour and cost per mile to operate. We also cover key performance stats so you know what you're paying for.
Costs of airplane ownership vary widely from owner to owner. This video takes an average of the various expenses from existing owners and boils them down to simple to digest numbers. Your ownership experiences will be unique.

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@aeronaut117
@aeronaut117 2 жыл бұрын
The context and humor turned up to 11, and the audio clips of the engine noise were just "chef's kiss" 👌
@phugwad
@phugwad Жыл бұрын
As someone who owned a Pressurized Skymaster for many years I wanted to clear up some possible misconceptions one may have from watching this video. A Pressurized Skymaster uses the same engines (not exact part number but same turbocharged HP tsio -360) as a newer vintage Piper Seneca. The Skymaster has better performance than the Seneca in every category, except useful load, which is the same as the Seneca. As opposed to the 160 knots cruise quoted in the video, a P-337 will cruise as fast as 205 knots at max cruise power, even faster if equipped with aftermarket intercoolers. Climb rate on both engines is similar to the Seneca but single engine climb and ceiling are significantly better on the Skymaster (due to the centerline thrust). The Seneca cabin is definitely bigger but you cannot fill the Seneca with passengers and still have enough range to go anywhere. It is virtually impossible to load a Skymaster out of CG limits, whereas most twins have to be careful about loading. I think the biggest issue with maintenance on Skymaster is that you can buy one cheaply but maintenance is the same as any other 6 cylinder twin, so a lot of people buy one and then don’t properly maintain it. A P-337 has 2, 6 cylinder engines, turbochargers, a pressurized cabin, retractable gear, even deicing systems, etc, no these are the same systems as used on any other pressurized piston twin, so they cost just as much to maintain. Think of it like buying a 2000 BMW 740il. You can pick one up for a few thousand dollars but maintenance is the same as it would be on a new $100,000 BMW. Like all piston aircraft, the Skymaster is noisy but, not more so than a twin with engines on the wing. There is however, more vibration in the cabin of the Skymaster than on other twins.
@oisiaa
@oisiaa Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply. I'm considering buying a P337 so it's nice to see your remarks about it.
@jeffreygoyer7760
@jeffreygoyer7760 2 жыл бұрын
Good review and love the humor. As an owner and pilot of a Skymaster, the vibration level people speak of is not noticeable. I have Noise canceling headsets and it is very comfortable to fly with regards to noise; no fatigue. It is a solid and stable aircraft to fly, great short field performance and I even operate it on and off grass airfields. The alternator and mags on the rear engine are a little tight, but most maintenance is pretty much the same as a Cessna High performance single.
@gregbuck701
@gregbuck701 2 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate to fly one way back, late 70s, naturally aspirated. As I recall...very stable, not all that fast, on takeoff lead with the rear throttle to be sure rear mill is running, etc.. And dont forget, the military used them for quite some time!! I may be slightly wrong but I dont think they had an inflight breakup. Great videos!!!
@Blank-oy7tb
@Blank-oy7tb 2 жыл бұрын
I flew in a Riley Skyrocket, valued at 500k. I couldn’t think of a single way to upgrade the plane, including avionics. The owner was long time airforce.
@Blank-oy7tb
@Blank-oy7tb 2 жыл бұрын
@lee161 I don’t think it was super. All I remember is it was pressurized, and therefore turbocharged.
@gregbuck701
@gregbuck701 2 жыл бұрын
@lee161 that "super skyrocket" is bad ass!!! 2 TIO520-NBs 300 + hp a pop. That is how it should've been built from day one. Could've also used IO520s on the NA version.
@ethanhiggins4887
@ethanhiggins4887 11 ай бұрын
@@gregbuck701 hopefully someone will finally finish the gross weight increase so you don't have to break the law everytime you want to fly with someone else
@beesoffury
@beesoffury 2 жыл бұрын
The illustration of the clothesline on a 337 deserves to be on a tshirt!
@johnnyboythepilot4098
@johnnyboythepilot4098 2 жыл бұрын
This ^
@EngineerPrepper
@EngineerPrepper 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 75 T337G 2 months ago....I love it
@oisiaa
@oisiaa Жыл бұрын
Have you considered doing videos on your 337 ownership experience?
@DarkElite100
@DarkElite100 4 ай бұрын
Very nice and congrats! Is that a pressurized cabin? Would love to see a vid on that
@alexsix3845
@alexsix3845 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Luckily enough my annual expences are much lower. Hangaring 1700€/ year, insurance 2600€ / year , annual around 4000€ .
@mikemontgomery2654
@mikemontgomery2654 2 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of the Skymaster. Just such a cool airplane.
@paulgemperlein626
@paulgemperlein626 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the only twins that's a decent bush plane if I'm remembering right. That's a cool and unique ability in my book.
@skyeugene9227
@skyeugene9227 2 жыл бұрын
I have flown off of 1000 ft grass strips many times
@lockirocu
@lockirocu 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for the early showing. Happy to be a member!
@JETZcorp
@JETZcorp 2 жыл бұрын
ATC: Cessna 123 alpha bravo, are you a Skymaster? Pilot: No, but my instructor says I'm doing real good so far.
@skenzyme81
@skenzyme81 2 жыл бұрын
The booms may not be sonic, but at least you get TWO of them!
@jakopath7
@jakopath7 2 жыл бұрын
Well, dream destroyed. Maybe I should set my sights on a nice C150 instead :)
@chrisglencross3867
@chrisglencross3867 2 жыл бұрын
😂. I have both.....one for going places....one for not....my wallet tells me which one it is that week
@julianhogan6510
@julianhogan6510 2 жыл бұрын
Maintenace is not anymore difficult on 337 The noise he played is w props not synched And they made 3000 not 2000 Yes i own a 337B and would buy it again
@MesaperProductions
@MesaperProductions 2 жыл бұрын
"I'd expect a steak dinner with that." I was going with high-end electronics, but you do you.
@skyeugene9227
@skyeugene9227 2 жыл бұрын
You have to have a real sense of humor when you own a Skymaster. Every time you pull up to the ramp someone's going to say " Huff and Puff, Suck and Blow, push me pull me, and a host of others with sometimes obscenities about your airplane!!! I've owned a fixed gear 336, several standard 337s, the turbo and pressurized models along with highly modified one with three bladed props and IO550s, much quieter. And flew an O2 military w/full smoke at over 100 air shows. The planes always brought me home and I've done a lot of over the water ocean flying. If you lose an engine it slows down about 10 or 15 kts/ you feather the bad engine open up the C/flaps on the good one and fly home. General Sky
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience 👍🏻
@DireWaffle404
@DireWaffle404 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of unique twins, maybe a video on the Velocity V-Twin?
@johnnyboythepilot4098
@johnnyboythepilot4098 2 жыл бұрын
That would definitely be my dream twin to own. And swap the x2 160HP Lycoming IO-320's for x2 turbonormalized 220HP ULPower UL520T's.
@DireWaffle404
@DireWaffle404 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyboythepilot4098 It's a neat plane, always loved the Beechcraft Starship and this is the closest I can come to owning one and I can do whatever I want with the interior
@billsmith1846
@billsmith1846 2 жыл бұрын
Fell in love with this plane after watching Bat-21. Always dreamed of owning a PBY, T-38 or an O-2
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 5 ай бұрын
like that movie very much. Lots of 337 sound.
@williamedmonds9581
@williamedmonds9581 2 жыл бұрын
I own a Cessna O-2A the military version of the 337 Skymaster. Beautiful and rare.
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen video of them being used as spotter planes by the US military (Army)??
@williamedmonds9581
@williamedmonds9581 2 жыл бұрын
Mine was a FAC plane in the Air Force during Vietnam. She’s got the patched bullet holes to prove her combat history. I purchased the plane 2 years ago and am in the process of restoring her. She hasn’t flown since 1978 when the Air Force delivered her to the boneyards. Unfortunately Covid slowed the progress and dried up the funds. So sadly she sits and waits till I can get back to work on her.
@aircraftadventures-vids
@aircraftadventures-vids 7 ай бұрын
"A Continental IO-360 sandwich....and you're the meat!" that got me rollin 😂😂😂
@hookiebookie1
@hookiebookie1 2 жыл бұрын
Man the extra details are so good!! Love the style, keep em comin!
@Boop__Doop
@Boop__Doop Жыл бұрын
i found one for 15k im not able to buy it for 2 reasons im 17 with no money and im 17 with no training
@garycummings1706
@garycummings1706 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, talk about timing. Always been a favorite of mine. You are right, very unique sound. While visiting the Statue of Liberty a couple days ago, I heard one coming. He orbited twice & headed south. Rare treat.
@shiroyukiwang1252
@shiroyukiwang1252 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe a Lancair 360 or Lancair evolution next? Also a piper tomahawk would be great. Or probably a Mitsubishi mu-2. Those are some fun airplane to learn about!
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 2 жыл бұрын
MU-2 is coming sooner than later. It's an odd duck for sure
@shiroyukiwang1252
@shiroyukiwang1252 2 жыл бұрын
@@CompleteWalkaround at my home airport, there's alway a few mu2 flying medivac in and out. They are loud as F. Literally everyone will get into the fbo building when we see one coming.
@marco.9900
@marco.9900 2 жыл бұрын
@@CompleteWalkaround I can’t wait to see the Mu-2 video, but please make one one the Lancair 360 or Evolution sometime in the future! I drool over the sleek, clean lines of an Evolution Turbine.
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 2 жыл бұрын
Performance (speed, load) - very similar to a C-210 Cons: higher cost per hour and per mile, due to two engines. Also more noise in the cabin. Pros: safety margins of a twin. Without the asymmetric thrust compensating shenanigans. At the end of the day, I'd prefer a C-210. But then, I'm cheap, and kinda on the higher side of risk tolerance. But then, if I'd see a C-210 for $300k and this C-377 thing for $100k and both engines running a-okay... IDK. Tempting. Probably not a good let alone practical idea long-term though.
@Maverickib
@Maverickib 2 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence, I just saw one of these at my airfield the other day. It was a Vietnam era one that was all original and unchanged. Weapon mounts still functional and all. Such a cool machine, even cooler to see it fly.
@clutchpedalreturnsprg7710
@clutchpedalreturnsprg7710 5 ай бұрын
" Bat - 21 "
@bornanagaming3329
@bornanagaming3329 2 жыл бұрын
This plane has buisness in the front And also buisness in the back
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a good one
@stevecarlisle3323
@stevecarlisle3323 2 жыл бұрын
I like the MOD that hinges the rear firewall so the engine swings out of the way so you can load frieght from the rear. The Bassler conversion is pretty nice too
@RADIOACTIVEBUNY
@RADIOACTIVEBUNY 2 жыл бұрын
What??? No kidding you can do that?
@stevecarlisle3323
@stevecarlisle3323 2 жыл бұрын
@@RADIOACTIVEBUNY YUP, Aussie Mod.
@cactus01
@cactus01 2 жыл бұрын
"the underdog skymaster is still out there flying, annoying everybody in earshot"
@ourias
@ourias 2 жыл бұрын
This video made my day. I remember requesting a video on this airplane a couple months ago. Definitely a underdog beaut. Thank you!!! Every video you upload gets better and better.
@jasonmiller7735
@jasonmiller7735 2 жыл бұрын
1914 was 11 years after the Wright brothers. Pedantry accomplished! Unless you were referring to something else the Wright brothers did, besides the obvious thing.
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, yes, the year Wilbur ran a 10 minute mile. You are correct, Got my dates crossed, dang
@soaringbumnm8374
@soaringbumnm8374 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to own a 337 you better be an AP/IA
@temetitomimorronga4928
@temetitomimorronga4928 2 жыл бұрын
When Pilatus PC-12
@Pewpew4
@Pewpew4 2 жыл бұрын
1:33: A Cougar sighting! But no mention.. haha. Great video
@Juliet_Whiskey
@Juliet_Whiskey 2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. My dose of “someday”
@Shopweasel
@Shopweasel 10 ай бұрын
You think the sky master will shake something loose we'll the seaman schuckert was obviously worse.glad it was a open cockpit! Looks like a cool little human eggbeater.😳🙊😅
@shevetlevi2821
@shevetlevi2821 2 жыл бұрын
Twin boom pushers are a very cool looking configuration.
@ouch7674
@ouch7674 6 ай бұрын
Just found this channel and I'm already in love jajajaja. Amazing video keep it up. Reminds me of Donut Media but for planes. Rotor Media.
@calvinnickel9995
@calvinnickel9995 Жыл бұрын
1:11 That's a cartoonized and mirrored shot of C-GBWT which was shot by TheHDAviation.
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 2 жыл бұрын
The Cessna 337 Skymaster is my favourite aeroplane. I want one so much. I would get my twin engine verification immediately. I have had dream of flying the rattle-bird. I do not care if it is loud and vibrates a lot. I would not need the pressurised version of the Skymaster at all. I would fly her low so everyone could see the glory of my rattle-bird. However, the video also shows an Antonov An-2, the longest production aeroplane in history! I would not mind an, "Annie," either.
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, That sounds like a fine plan 🤠
@Amisafeyet
@Amisafeyet Жыл бұрын
I cannot explain WHY I like these so much! My Uncle (who worked on them) HATES them.
@jag524
@jag524 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the Aerostar, that’s a gorgeous plane.
@averageakpilot4044
@averageakpilot4044 Жыл бұрын
I love my skymaster you heretic! Kidding, kind of... Love your videos and your art!
@matthewmillar3804
@matthewmillar3804 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are getting better and better. 🥰
@jhaedtler
@jhaedtler 2 жыл бұрын
the Mix Master was a copy of a homebuilt aircraft that Joe Holster built. Joe plane flew better! It is also one of the worst planes I have ever worked on. Most pilots said they would park the planes behind the hangars so no one would see them getting out of it!
@McStebb
@McStebb 6 күн бұрын
This is the airplane i would own if i had stupid money.
@saiajin82
@saiajin82 2 жыл бұрын
"But I'd expect a steak dinner with that" haha, love it. Thanks!
@davidhillberg7623
@davidhillberg7623 2 жыл бұрын
sky mixer, push pull. suck and blow, mis master one in Chino is cursed and doesn't want to leave
@Whataboutit
@Whataboutit 11 ай бұрын
Comment for algo
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 11 ай бұрын
Appreciated 👍
@msteele3199
@msteele3199 2 жыл бұрын
337 is a good mission oriented aircraft. Not a good family hauler.
@oldmech619
@oldmech619 2 жыл бұрын
Having an engine that will go through your head in a survival accident scares me
@chinabluewho
@chinabluewho 2 жыл бұрын
What a beuatiful plane so gracefull in appearance, planes are never looked on as works of art like cars are but it definately is a looker.
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say never
@coasternut3091
@coasternut3091 8 ай бұрын
All of the cost of a twin with the only upside being that it has no critical engine. The fact that you can't get a twin rating in one says it all
@CIPHER666th
@CIPHER666th 2 жыл бұрын
Still is my dream plane
@j3r0_plays7
@j3r0_plays7 2 жыл бұрын
Damn underrated is what you are!
@kazansky22
@kazansky22 6 ай бұрын
Piper apache with and without the Geronimo stc!
@gregorygoeppner1621
@gregorygoeppner1621 3 ай бұрын
One of the best. Both the 337 and fixed gear 336.
@colinlindley3681
@colinlindley3681 Жыл бұрын
The noise of the skymaster even scared my dog!
@JonesNate
@JonesNate 4 ай бұрын
...annoying everybody in earshot... 🤣
@AaronDotZone
@AaronDotZone 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve liked these since I saw air America
@Redchrome1
@Redchrome1 2 жыл бұрын
There is no way an audio recording can really express the nerve-grating rattle these things make when they fly by. To me it sounds like the world's biggest beetle buzzing around. Truly awful.
@seaplaneguy1
@seaplaneguy1 9 ай бұрын
The airplane I am working on will be a 5 place roadable seaplane. $11/hr fuel at 160 kts, multi engine. Hanger at home. Total is $21/hr. $1200 fixed and $15/hr variable. That is 15.5 times less than the 337 and a much better airplane. This industry is dead because of insane costs and outdated junk. $327 is silly stupid in the extreme.
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 9 ай бұрын
What plane is that?
@seaplaneguy1
@seaplaneguy1 9 ай бұрын
The seaplane I am working on. Does not have an official name. I am just stating what it will do. Yes, I am an engineer and have done wind tunnel test and fully qualified to make such a claim...@@CompleteWalkaround
@RedHawk785
@RedHawk785 2 жыл бұрын
Some wag once said a twin is an engine failure on takeoff just waiting to happen. Sounds like his name was Murphy. In any event from what I've read this was a major cause of fatalities for P-38 Lightning pilots and ironically the 1980's aviation journalist I read who said this in his magazine article about the P-38 was very unfortunately one of them a bit later. Perhaps this is not a good or fair comparison between a high performance WW2 fighter and a commuter aircraft but any design that would eliminate fatal crashes due to an engine failure has to be just a superb feature. Its a shame this wasn't the case with the ATR that crashed on climb out just after takeoff due to an engine failure where the PIC reduced power to idle on the good engine.
@giang366
@giang366 9 ай бұрын
What happens if both engines fail
@acarrillo8277
@acarrillo8277 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed harder than i should have at the sandwich joke.
@MesaperProductions
@MesaperProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, did not see that one coming. Ergo, a great joke.
@barrycuda3769
@barrycuda3769 2 жыл бұрын
When I lived in Cromwell 'central otago nz' not too long along ago' every now and then I'd hear a plane going over with a distinctive raspy sound and I'd get out my binoculars and see that it was a push pull cessna ' I never imagined I'd ever see one'but ended up seeing it numerous times.
@cabinvibesebaystore8956
@cabinvibesebaystore8956 2 жыл бұрын
New sub! Liked ❤️😀
@jayfleegle9455
@jayfleegle9455 2 жыл бұрын
But there Sooooooo sweet 🥰
@carlweverson1302
@carlweverson1302 2 жыл бұрын
What about a walk around for the Bell UH-1 Iroquois.
@johnny5039
@johnny5039 2 жыл бұрын
My dream plane, idk if it’s realistic to own and operate because of the age and supply of parts.
@billmorris2613
@billmorris2613 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning to all from SE Louisiana 15 Jun 22.
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 2 жыл бұрын
Good Morning Bill
@emfournet
@emfournet 2 жыл бұрын
Wheres the fabric?! Do a colt or tri-pacer next please, there's one for sale in my town and you're better at research than me!
@therusticcollectionebaysto7028
@therusticcollectionebaysto7028 2 жыл бұрын
New sub! Liked 🙏👍
@swiftarrow9
@swiftarrow9 Жыл бұрын
Velocity!
@bernardanderson3758
@bernardanderson3758 2 жыл бұрын
Overall The best one that I’ve flown in was the Riley Rocket 337
@GeneHaas0
@GeneHaas0 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do a video on a Cessna 400 series plane. Those seem very attractive cost wise for what you get. Great videos. I cant get enough of them.
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan. Are you talking 414, 421 or straight up 400
@GeneHaas0
@GeneHaas0 2 жыл бұрын
@@CompleteWalkaround yeah, im glad you said something here. I forgot the 400 was a thing. but yes either of those would be cool. I think the 401 or 402 is what I would love to see the most. Thanks for responding!
@fillywinks
@fillywinks 2 жыл бұрын
hilarious :)
@airmanfpv964
@airmanfpv964 2 жыл бұрын
u forgot Do-335
@hisetip
@hisetip 2 жыл бұрын
Do Pitts S2 please 🙏 (I would actually love to buy that plane one day)
@yavoz.
@yavoz. 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance a BD4c video will come out one day?
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 2 жыл бұрын
One day. It's up there on the obscure list
@bernardanderson3758
@bernardanderson3758 2 жыл бұрын
Once you get your Multi engine in the 337 which is single line thrust is the only twin you can fly but nothing else
@neoleo593
@neoleo593 2 жыл бұрын
You have the model, any chances of an AN-2 video?
@FlyWithTom_YT
@FlyWithTom_YT 2 жыл бұрын
Please please do the Islander and Tecnam P2012!
@will-7073
@will-7073 2 жыл бұрын
BD4 =P
@StevieWonder737
@StevieWonder737 2 жыл бұрын
At today's $7+ per gallon, the fuel at $100/hr equate to less that 15 gals/hour and I don't think you can begin to achieve that kind of fuel burn rate.
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 2 жыл бұрын
I use $5 for all the videos for easy comparison.
@AN2Felllla
@AN2Felllla 2 жыл бұрын
Really unique plane!
@johnnyboythepilot4098
@johnnyboythepilot4098 2 жыл бұрын
Highly detailed high part count 337 Skymaster for SimplePlanes when? 😤
@youcool8693
@youcool8693 2 жыл бұрын
Will you doing ultra light airbike review
@tanmay7630
@tanmay7630 2 жыл бұрын
please do shark ul plane 2 seater, The one in which Zara Rutherford completed her solo circum navigation of the globe at 19.
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 2 жыл бұрын
That one is in the works
@Reacta-dev
@Reacta-dev 2 жыл бұрын
This is Awsome! Can you do a Episode on a Cessna Citation M2?
@GeneHaas0
@GeneHaas0 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do the piper m600 so we can compare it to the TBM 850 videos you already made? That’d be awesome!
@CompleteWalkaround
@CompleteWalkaround 2 жыл бұрын
Eventually yup. Meridian is there already too
@oldmech619
@oldmech619 2 жыл бұрын
A sky master just crashed near Los Angeles a few months ago. He got distracted and forgot to fly the plane. Twin didn’t help. It killed him.
@ananda_miaoyin
@ananda_miaoyin 2 жыл бұрын
Cross that one off the list.
@matthennagersguitarlessons
@matthennagersguitarlessons 2 жыл бұрын
Fun plane to fly!
@WilliamWhitneyChristmasMD
@WilliamWhitneyChristmasMD 2 жыл бұрын
Piper Colt, please!
@edl617
@edl617 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful airplane
@reyesben
@reyesben 2 жыл бұрын
Love the humor ❤
@Ash007YT
@Ash007YT 2 жыл бұрын
Love this aircraft it's horrible but very interesting.
@queeny5613
@queeny5613 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@joseguevara8995
@joseguevara8995 2 жыл бұрын
Finally!
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