Create a Realistic Forest in 30 Minutes | Blender Tutorial

[@CGGeek]

Huge thanks to Coreweave for sponsoring! Check out there render farm: www.conciergerender.com/ Also we're at 18 million trees! Only 2mil to go - we can totally do this! teamtrees.org/ #teamtrees **Correction at 14:48 just increase your tree particle amount to 40k, somehow that part was cut.. For anyone who can't get their leaves to appear at 13:00 Click on the tree Go to Modifiers > Convert Select the trunk and all the branches > Ctrl+J to join Go to the landscape mesh Remove the tree collection from the particle system and re add it The origin for the tree may change so make sure it's correct :)

[@lukas_g243]

CG Geek your a cool dude, I don’t know how you come up with so much original content

[@saumilsunilshah5663]

A tutorial for cooking my PC ?

[@lukas_g243]

Saumil sunil Shah isn’t that all blender tutorials

[@uzaifkarime4080]

Can I use it as a video game base ????

[@davidk7529]

Two dumb questions (from someone wanting to start but who hasn't yet): How do you make the trees wave gently in the wind for maximum realistic effect? How do you make this whole scene into a game environment that you can "walk" around in? Okay, I have to ask one more... How do you make a game environment where you can _actually_ affect any part of the environment in realistic and virtually infinitely variable ways instead of in terms of predetermined chunk elements, or is that out of the reach of current processing capacity? Okay fine, I have one last one... How many years until 3D environment scanning and rendering technologies can produce a game-like program where we can explore an entire virtual earth in realistic detail? With residential addresses mixed randomly and real people's houses replaced with random ones, of course I want to run around in places like Antarctica and build structures and tunnels and maybe melt the snow to cultivate some areas... with no predetermined game stories involved.

[@ebanksstudios]

*For anyone who can't get their leaves to appear at **13:00* Click on the tree Go to Modifiers > Convert Select the trunk and all the branches > Ctrl+J to join Go to the landscape mesh Remove the tree collection from the particle system and re add it The origin for the tree may change so make sure it's correct :)

[@CGGeek]

Great explanation! And something I should have mentioned at that part in the video.

[@samahlstrom8617]

You are a blessing! I couldn't figure out why my trees were only showing the no branches version. Thank you thank you thank you!

[@Showman558]

Thank you!

[@georgerussell2947]

thank you but my leaves just turn black. could you help?

[@neypomuk]

thank you so much

[@akramdriraze4970]

me : clicks unwrap my pc : this little maneuver gonna cost us 52 years

[@travis5665]

perfect comment haha

[@jaujud]

nice reference lol

[@Gerhardghg]

Yes my too.

[@Z5Z5Z5]

When u have a laptop :)

[@aaronjohnson2340]

Yeah, my software just crashed lol

[@jippee1]

If you click off your settings by accident just hit F9 and it will open your last command in this case the landscape settings. Works for me and works for any command/setting 👍

[@CGGeek]

Nice tip! note: that if you make any changes to anything this wont work, but great for bringing back the settings if you accidentally closed them!

[@mahlubinkewana2985]

@@CGGeek But if you are using apple is it still the same method

[@silasg497]

@@CGGeek How do we get the settings back if it is not the last command?

[@robertoaguiar6230]

jd, thanks, man

[@caissa6187]

omg thank you! i was getting so frustrated. lol

[@lukaschyla9552]

ME: rising up the number of trees to have more realistic render MY PC: "It was an honor to work with you sir"

[@AnimationBrosStudio]

There's actually a trick in the particle section under viewport display. there is a slider that says amount, you can turn this down from 100% to say 20% or even lower so in the view port it would show only a portion of trees compared to what the rendered result would be. Therefore you could set your particles much higher without killing your pc in viewport display.

[@bondascommunity600]

@@AnimationBrosStudio but even I turned down to 1% my laptop still lagging :(

[@bondascommunity600]

My laptop is too weak

[@AnimationBrosStudio]

@@bondascommunity600 Specs?

[@LUCKYRABITT]

@@AnimationBrosStudio 500 mb ram pentium dual core

[@kubagrzybek6629]

Geek *deletes default cube* Me: It will be a long journey

[@NeonCipher]

This forest is so realistic I think I need a compass

[@abiyyupanggalih854]

yeah :D

[@vickyvic888]

Is that a Minecraft reference? 🤔🤔🤔

[@2ndclss]

Vivek E compass, is a real thing...

[@vickyvic888]

@@2ndclss Ever heard the word sarcasm?

[@lucutes2936]

wat

[@Snow-tk9zv]

DOWNLOAD SOME HIGH POLY TREES ADD IT TO A COLLECTION CREATE LAND ADD PARTICLE SYSTEM TO LAND SELECT PARTICLES AS THE TREE COLLECTION . . . . . . . *BOOM! YOU HAVE SMOKE*

[@danthedinoman9335]

wheeze

[@denierdev9723]

How do I fix 12:12? It doesn't work for me, on 2.92

[@Minemasters3]

@@denierdev9723 Hey! It didn't work for me either at first but it got fixed when I later chose "Global X" in the Rotation tab :) (instead of Global Z)

[@denierdev9723]

@@Minemasters3 I got it to work a few hours after watching, thanks though! At least I can remember what to do now

[@noctua7771]

Me: my pc is pretty powerful, it should be able to handle this big scene Blender: no

[@sudheererothu1012]

Why?

[@blenderium]

@@sudheererothu1012 its a meme.... uw unwrapping big mountains like that is no easy task. even 16 gb ram dies.

[@ZipSnipe]

@@sudheererothu1012 you gotta have that big money video card

[@LUCKYRABITT]

@@blenderium which gpu u have

[@amakambon1233]

When you haven't made the donut yet...

[@moonljte]

I made it but I forgot to save it then I got angry and closed the app. I haven't opened blender ever since

[@hopevity]

Georgia Vassilopoulou it’s out now.

[@devajrajana6019]

Exactly!!😁

[@Z5Z5Z5]

Right

[@johnnyferrer4068]

uh... what donut?

[@Ayronarts]

for the people that dont have the depth option showing in the compositing render layer, go to; view layer properties (2nd icon under render properties), go to passes>data>check the Z box.

[@Echidna23Gaming]

Nice! Thanks, I was wondering why I couldn't see that. Oddly enough I still don't seem to have any differences than my render before the compositing nodes section, but I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually🤣

[@NONAME-cz2ln]

i have a problem that when ever i render my image with particle system landscape disappears please help!!

[@officialgSync]

thank you

[@itsvlend]

@@Echidna23Gaming you must connect the nodes to composite

[@musgoart8784]

Real heros don't wear capes...thanks!

[@cainen6355]

A few years ago when I just started using blender I would have had no clue what your talking about during all this and would call witchcraft on it. Awesome tutorial. I actually thought about making exactly this kind of scene yesterday and this really helps!

[@jhondprincss1126]

"Switch over to GPU if you have one" Me: Cries in HP Laptop

[@internetproduction5446]

Tamas Szeker i have a laptop from the school (that’s doesn’t belong to me) luckily or unluckily i have a PC Windows 10 :/

[@tingal]

Some of the HP laptops have CUDA

[@innplanet]

HP laptop with GTX 850 LOL

[@umanganimates4493]

Cries in intel HD graphics!

[@articist69]

I also have a HP laptop

[@khalatelomara]

You are my saviour actually, before you do this tutorial thought of doing a forest as I did a forest but with high poly trees and worked nicely but I needed a really massive forest and your tree tutorial was a blast, then you accomplished it with this , you are awesome

[@ShredMentor]

That color ramp used as the factor for the mix shader to blend two textures is pure gold, thanks so much for that EDIT: also I LOVE the mist layer approach, my processor and I thank you

[@meme-ts8xp]

Me: Looks at my Pc . Pc : My time has come...

[@TheOne-iw2hm]

Here is where we say farewell. LOL

[@komojo]

Protip: You can make the fog particles align to the camera rotation by adding a Copy Rotation constraint.

[@Tiodr]

If you havent got depth on your render layers node, just go to the "view layer nodes" at the side, go to "passes", "data" and enable "Z"

[@neppoj2871]

You are a legend for giving us this tutorial completely, including the compositing!!!

[@grim789]

If you don't have a num pad you can also go into view when camera is grabbed and do view --> align view --> align active camera to view (it shows the hotkey beside it.)

[@Fiction_editz0]

Oh thanks. I've been struggling lol

[@frogyafro]

Im really digging this blender tutorial all across KZbin. I have been using 3ds max for 5 years now and Im planning to learn this Blender cause its really a flexible software.

[@JonathanWinbush]

C4D guy here but man I've been impressed by what I've seen coming out if Blender this year.

[@aaronhorton3508]

Cool method. I remember that particle mist was a big selling point in the 90's as particle systems were added to the big name 3D renderers of the time, as they were becoming more capable and more popular for TV work.

[@TheNewton]

Still used alot and in games too, here it's optimizing by billboarding to always face the camera with tradeoff being the camera has to move a in a line, i'm not sure if hair particles can be set to always face camera or not.

[@udese730]

@@TheNewton no, you don't look at hair from far enough for this, it would look extremely weird. We used textured planes to make hair and actual simplified hair shader now

[@StreamClips001]

Me: puts an extra 0 on the end of number of particles by accident. My computer: Not Responding

[@TheBoillingPotato]

Do you watch me 😣😣 3 of my project waste after this for a 0 I forgot to save always😭😭

[@00.Emergency.00]

Same here😀😭

[@MotiviqueStudio]

Yet again, another tutorial helping me with a huge project. Thank you.

[@tintanijinxx]

Finally starting my blender journey, and saw this. This is basically one of the best tutorials on youtube!!!

[@jaromor8808]

while the result is gorgeous, due how this kind of fog is typically formed in a forest i believe the "smoke" should be less "patchy"

[@louisphildurand]

I got so much fun just making some trees and learning all that can be done with compositing nodes. Just another amazing tutorial that makes me love Blender even more with a great teacher! Thank you, sir! Unfortunately, I probably don't have such an amazing PC to make full HD renders... guess its time for an upgrade!

[@Devour_]

Used some these techniques for a desert environment. Thanks for the amazing tutorial.

[@molugusatyapriya2]

Amazing outcomes in a short amount of time! It seems so simple to create a realistic woodland with your Blender tutorial.

[@zigthepro56roblox40]

(For people having trouble finding depth render pass) in render passes, in the render tab, you need to check off the box next to "Z" under the Data tab.

[@superuser3026]

OH MY GOSH THANK YOU. That would have taken forever to find.

[@carterking6326]

You blow me away with what you can do every time you put out a new video, keep up the awesome work!

[@dominikvachl8439]

I had so much fun making this and learnt maybe a littlebit too much :DD Thank you!

[@21EC]

I searched google to find out if a realistic large scale forest is possible to create using Blender..wasn't sure but I expected it to be able to and here it is....WOW ! very very realistic forest you created in it and it's very cool !

[@plasictree]

Up until minute 20, I have my doubt about my life and my choices. Questionable at best. yet at 20:42 my life transcended into something meaningful seeing what my 2 little hands can make and achieve. I no longer question my life. I have transcended into Blender Apprentice and have been blessed by the ability to make a forest. Thank you. :D

[@erik....]

"We're gonna go to *about* a 0.2536786" Enters exactly the same number.

[@lua-nya]

Yeah, quite great.

[@exyl_sounds]

@Richard Wright lmfao

[@timothyockhuizen7339]

The increase of trees happens by adjusting the seed amount (by default it is set to 1000).

[@thefroggiesincambridge9921]

Just don't forget, #teamtrees!

[@kendarr]

Man, it's almost 18 million already, so cool

[@Slickstaff_Stainpants]

its taken forever to get from 15mil to 18

[@a-defmi-def8911]

Not available in my country((

[@Slickstaff_Stainpants]

@@a-defmi-def8911 I use a free program called Psiphon 3.. its a quick VPN. I use it to get around geo-blockers.. Doesnt work for netflix though. www.psiphon3.com/en/index.html

[@a-defmi-def8911]

@@Slickstaff_Stainpants Nevermind i used Proton VPN and donated

[@SCPInfinityo]

I’m gonna be using this tutorial for the landscape of my realistic game, it’s not heavily focused on the terrain until the end, but thank you as it is still something necessary.

[@SCPInfinityo]

@ImJC1 ACCFIRE thing is, how do you get experience without trying

[@SCPInfinityo]

@ImJC1 ACCFIRE true, but I’ve got a dev team so I’m all good, and I have experience directing

[@maylinnsmith1468]

15:40 Thank you so much. My computer was struggling.

[@avioro4822]

6:40 for making the black and white mask of the landscape to dictate where the rock appears and where the grass appears, I follow his steps exactly but it’s not making black and white separate it’s just changing the entire landscape from white to black... like it’s all the same color and doesn’t look splotchy like his...

[@rizerphe]

You can just Ctrl-shift-T the principled node to connect all textures at once. That's the node wrangler feature

[@NONAME-cz2ln]

i have a problem that when ever i render my image with particle system landscape disappears please help!!

[@bejlicaushaj7169]

CG Geek: *pushing forward the usage of technology to a higher level* Me: *deletes default cube *

[@SpaceManRD]

No offense, but I really don't get these sorts of comments. He's literally teaching you how to do this stuff, and in fairly simple language to boot, lol.

[@ikarys5173]

You have the best blender tutorials, you’re the only one i can actually follow and understand your videos are so simple and straightforward, you my guy are an actual professional

[@ScottPowersArt]

You packed so much solid infofrmation into this, that my brain keptshorting. Thanks for making it digestable and so efficient!

[@reallylockedin]

if your trees arent showing leaves in 12:00 when you put particle system on landscape, you need to apply and convert the particle on your main tree object. took me like 20 min to find out so here is the solution if someone gets stuck like I did

[@markbalat6034]

can you explain in detail please? Im new to blender and am so confused by this

[@reallylockedin]

@@markbalat6034 you need to apply and convert the leaf particle system on your tree object before you duplicate them on your landscape

[@kampey8590]

@@reallylockedin Where do I apply and convert the leaf particle

[@yonnachammas3620]

how

[@adamkot3599]

*Blender (Not Responding)*

[@RAZDHEEN]

Graphics card over loading 😂

[@Z5Z5Z5]

*uses laptop*

[@jyothikumar2375]

Hehe me here with AMD Ryzen 7

[@alisachu.mp3]

@@Z5Z5Z5 me everytime haha, i use a laptop

[@cybergameextreme4463]

Well, my pc not responding too, and i smash my pc

[@simulify8726]

Wow that was amazing, can I make a star ship crashing in the forest while trees falling in the way of ship

[@tearumdigitalstudios7584]

I’ve been working on a movie in Blender and this video has helped a lot. Thanks a lot.

[@namanstudios4954]

The Beginning looks a lot like a part of some movie that is based in a forest... It's really cool what CGI can do. Nice Work!

[@JockyCGE]

CG Geek: So just add a landscape by enabling the A.N.T Landscape add-on in preferences then pressing Shift+A to add a landscape Me: *Spits out tea* THAT EASY?!?

[@jabezcrisp7899]

I literally made a procedural landscape generator first before I found this.

[@mmcreator2227]

@@jabezcrisp7899 Same lol

[@Ab_obla]

Before this I used to use procedural displacement thinking I was genius till I saw this 🤣

[@BatonyRobson]

Concierge: it will cost 47$ Me: eh... you know... I'm think Im fine also me: *draws first and last frames by hand, makes AI interpolate 198 frames, posts it in abstract art category

[@yanncnl1]

Very nice tutorial, as usual! The second part of the fog when compositing is awesome, this is actually one of the key to photorealism in renders! Huge thanks for all the tips :)

[@raullopezflamig]

Saving this for later! Road to finish the donut first! XD Love the material

[@HDNocopywritemotionbackgrounds]

Wow. Thank you. A blender tutorial that I can understand. ❤ Subscribed 👍

[@colouredpages]

I was like, this guy has opened an academy on youtube!

[@romain6748]

My brain broke at 8 minutes. 30 minutes? This would take me a whole week :0

[@Jaseel_m]

Me :watching first 30 second.. ...quiting the video.. I can't afford this, this is awesome..he is mastered in this..👍

[@3dartio105]

I will be making similar 3D content and tutorials. Consider Subscribing

[@AniClipsOfficial]

you are an animation guru!

[@seanmichael3006]

Team trees!!! 🐻🌲💚

[@rockyroadmagic4152]

Who else has no idea what hes doing and just watches cuz its cool

[@Spyro_2076]

Download Blender. Do it. Do it now.

[@benfoley6472]

@@Spyro_2076 lmfao wow

[@jonny11995]

If your noise settings for the mountains are still sharp change the noise basis from Blender to Perlin. I think it defaults to the blender if you haven't used the terrain tool before, but the blender one is a nightmare for scaling.

[@explosionimplosion4679]

"The last thing to do to increase you render time even more is..." Me: "I've always wanted to do that!"

[@notsure1969]

You are a Blender wizard.

[@jettblackmemes]

LOVE UR VIDEOS..............................A BIG THANK YOU FROM ME WHO HAS LEARNT SO MUCH FROM U .................I WISH OUR TEACHERS WERE LIKE U............IGNORE CAPS LETTERS

[@brandonjacksoon]

Amazing!!! I like this tutorial a lot :) Thank you!

[@Starwarsfun1-Leo]

Great tutorial! That's a very interesting way of adding fog to a scene. I would be interested in comparing that method to rendering the fog in Eevee and composite it into the cycles render! Edit: Fixed a typo

[@Ludifant]

@3:50 if ctrl-t doesn't work for you, enable "node-wrangler" in the preferences!

[@everythingdollar5234]

Thanks so much

[@redziowy798]

He actually makes no clickbate titles like blender guru (or somethig like this) does. Blender guru titles are f.example "interior in 30 mins" where video is 40 mins and its just cutouts of the video which actually has about 2-3hours.

[@drearbeast5190]

Idk why people are thumbing this down, awesome tutorial

[@philup9864]

Dude you’re killing it with your vids lately bro! Thank you!!! Keep up the great work! You should do a werewolf transformation tutorial! KZbin needs a blender werewolf transformation tutorial so bad!

[@LewisShacklady]

I'm at the compositing stage trying to use Scene Depth > Map Value. No matter what values I tweak on the Map Value, my whole scene is covered, I can't isolate the hills in the foreground... does anyone have any suggestions?

[@yulucy]

For those who can't see the map value, I don't know the principle, but when I restarted the computer and re-rendered an image, it worked. You can try it.

[@ascotinva]

First Class tutorial. You're the greatest Steve. Keep them coming:)

[@kicx2222]

1:13 11:46 - trees, created with particle system 14:33 - vertex group 15:53 - clouds

[@kalendor]

you so much know what you're doing that you actually made me believe I could in fact render the same forest in 30 minutes ... Honestly, what you do in 30' would take me 3 weeks or more ! Well, I'm a rookie that's the reason tho.

[@OfficialInternetExplorer]

Due to the rendertime, this video should be called "Create a Realistic Forest in 3-5 Hours | Blender 2.8 Tutorial" #GTX1060

[@verticalflyingb737]

I hate you but I don't want to get caught by the redditors

[@thee-van6480]

Relatable

[@biggiecheese7926]

More like 8-10 hours because internet explorer wouldn't load the video.

[@mousediscord2803]

You actually have fast renders.... I took 28:50:27.... hours....

[@TheSiddharthRay]

@@mousediscord2803 It took me 69 hours 59 mins 59 secs | #RTX2080SUPER

[@creativedrag0n1]

Create it in 30 minutes and render in 69 years.

[@pkafx]

Took me 5 hours to render, i didnt rendered from site which he is telling ,rendered it frame by frame.

[@TritaniumYT]

The CGI artists of KZbin should come together to make a fully-CGI photorealistic action movie

[@danajonker-bryce8024]

your eyes are so pretty dude wtf

[@Vesnic8]

what also kills part of the realism is the different specie of trees, you have pine trees combnied with jungle vibes. also try to angle it more from above and apply blur on edges for giving a feeling of smaller objects, as it is it looks like grass that's zoomed in

[@RoSeNvfx]

Hey CG Geek, could you make a tutorial explaining camera movement and rendering setting?

[@theunitedgrass9585]

im sure there are plenty of tutorials for camera movement already out there

[@RoSeNvfx]

@@theunitedgrass9585 I know, but he explains everything so smoothly and straight forwards, no bs

[@GabrielsLogic]

@@RoSeNvfx Right?!

[@3dartio105]

I am making similar 3D content and tutorials. Consider Subscribing

[@doodlemouse.6825]

TO CREATE A FOREST : Step 1) get blender Step 2) jump in a lava pool

[@yeshey5443]

This video will be a great reference if I ever want to do some grand open scene! :D Pinned, thx! And that glare streaks node is doing sourcery on the animation! But I think it isn't the whole story... it alone couldn't reach that level of lens flare godness. Was it just a few almost transparent circls you slapped along with it? Lens flare is something I'd like to know how to do, but there doesn't seem to be a simple way to do it..

[@CGGeek]

Yup for the final animation I slapped a bit of an overlay on top of the Blender lens flare. Just a free overlay clip on KZbin for a little extra pop.

[@kartiksavaliya7192]

Love from India ❤️♥️

[@cmarkme]

Blender ... My Jaw can't drop any further.. Now Stop Showing off.. I know you are Awesome.. And thank you CG, for also sharing your skills, so I can understand How it's done :-)

[@dustinwaree]

When i apply the Particalsystem to the landscape, only my trees without the leaves are standing on the ground... The Trees with the leaves are underground... Any Advise? Thanks

[@moremotion3313]

Oh wow, "only" 47 bucks for 200 frames. Are we billionaires or what? :-D

[@arthura.8836]

Id rather take the 200hours of render option lol

[@mousediscord2803]

@@arthura.8836 Me 2 XD

[@Dheorl]

If you do it for a living, that's low enough to be worth it.

[@arthura.8836]

@@Dheorl you hav a point.

[@letscompose8560]

The price he quoted, .25c per frame, did not match up to the .47c per frame shown on his computer either.

[@iael183]

What did you do between 3:10 -3:15 minute , to have a “sharp” landscape and not with square ?? Thank you

[@aodhiii1423]

Right click "shade smooth"

[@shuaixu7579]

@@aodhiii1423 Thank you!!!!!

[@SequoiaAlexander]

Thank you this held me up too!

[@dumangs]

@@aodhiii1423 Thanks))))))

[@Purplefundragon08]

Thanks! I love how in tutorials there is always someone with the same questions in the comment section.

[@danielasat2646]

This is insane, i was doing a forest before i watch this video and i feel pretty dumb about some things rigth now 🤣 Thanks for sharing this content!

[@meekproductionsmk9465]

Wow!Amazing human being..

[@skaynet22]

Hello there, I have a problem at minute 7:03, with the ColorRamp, when I put black and white in the middle, I only see one color in the 3D viewport. I don't know if anyone had the same problem.

[@balfua]

I'm having the same problem. My nodes are the same as yours in the video. any ideas anyone?

[@calebwaszaj44]

@@balfua Same!! I need help 😬

[@asr2009]

with the node wrangler ctrl+shift+left click on the color ramp

[@yukishima260]

Try cycles render

[@oblivion73]

Same

[@yoa8093]

why do all the leaves on the trees disappear when I turn on the hair particle on the landscape? When I grouped the trees the leaves are selected too but then all the trees (hair particles) on the landscape don't have leaves at all

[@ridensdev9681]

Did you find a fix for it?

[@jackthebear21]

how did you make the amount of trees so much higher, you kinda skipped that step 14:49

[@zodiacalxt6488]

He changed the number of particles (Particles

[@paveljordan614]

Zodiacal XT my computer crashed at 5000, fuck

[@mousediscord2803]

@@paveljordan614 Haha mine crashed at 4000 i have a sad low end laptop so it's pretty good actually

[@gillik7801]

@@mousediscord2803 Mine doesnt even crash at 50.000 but it took like 30 mins to apply the thing :D I got rtx 2080

[@rileygriffin8006]

@@gillik7801 Good for you?

[@ipa_games_official]

The other 33 seconds: u forgot us? Jk, the video is really helping for everyone. Thanks! :))

[@mediafgh9005]

Excellent ! Jurassic Park can keep quiet...

[@earthcantholdme1209]

me: making blender forest and forgets to save once my pc: Im gonna end this mans whole career

[@ashleyrodriguez4843]

Wow this guy moves fast. I can't keep up 😂

[@sbc2954]

Help me plz Around 6:51, i recreate his exact coloramp setup and rather than creating a mask it sort of mixes them. It is not showing as two colors when I press ctrl shft click Edit: you have to be in cycle for it to work

[@markubee]

weird, i change it to cycles too and it still doesn't show up the colorramp

[@TruthSurge]

why do you only get one shot at setting your landscape parameters? Why isn't all that saved as a modifier or something you can easily get back to under the plane object? thx for the tut.

[@SanOcelotl]

first time im actually going to check out the sponsors product