Jon, before loosening the pinch bolts I use a light-colored pencil to mark the "as-found" position of both eccentrics. It's a good opportunity to check them for symmetry, too. After adjustment I re-check them for symmetry. My own preference is to apply simultaneous force to both eccentrics (i.e. a pair of hex tools is needed) because this is what the Kawasaki racing team guys did back in the day!
@Mark-sn6kh3 жыл бұрын
That's an awesome way to adjust a chain. Wish more bikes were like this.
@NigelGriff6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide, just adjusted my chain for the first time. I was at 6cm of slack!!!
@JonLong6 жыл бұрын
That's a lot! I'm glad you were able to get it properly adjusted!
@KlockworXMusic5 жыл бұрын
Glad this exists. My 1994 Triumph Daytona 1200 has this same type of system for the back axle, noticed it had 50mm play while doing a chain cleaning today and I really wanted to see a video of these eccentric axles before trying to adjust mine.
@JonLong5 жыл бұрын
I hadn’t seem them on any other bikes. I’m glad to know it was helpful!
@thetomekyo4 жыл бұрын
I might have missed it but you definitely should measure the slack on more than one place on the chain. If you don't - you might come for a surprise because the chain never extends equally. If you're unlucky your chain will be like a guitar string at some points when you rotate the wheel...
@zwackrpg5 жыл бұрын
I love these educational videos because I have the same exact bike you do. You are right to the point and have good information and clean video/audio, I really appreciate it!
@davidraupp1673 жыл бұрын
Hi Jonathan, Thank you for making this video, I adjusted my chain today and was very excited to do it myself.
@thecampbellshow58132 жыл бұрын
This is so much easier than my other sport bikes....I thought you had to remove the cotter pin and loosen the axle nut and all that. Glad I looked this up first!
@85waspnest6 жыл бұрын
Keep 'em coming Jon :-). I wish Kawasaki would fit smaller silencers for better paddock stand access, chain & brake caliper maintenance. I fitted some SP Engineering (a UK Co.) short stubby carbons which give great access, more pillion heel room and better sound.
@stepirate5 жыл бұрын
Abba Stand. KZbin it 😉
@RickyJr464 жыл бұрын
The Abba superbike stand uses the swingarm pivot as its lifting point. That holds the bike very securely upright, with its rear tire off the ground. You can order it with accessories which pull the rear end down and lift the front wheel for removal. The Abba is also an excellent device when removing the rear shock or front forks. A Baxley front wheel chock is another great piece of equipment (and Made in USA). It too holds the bike upright and that makes using a rear stand a lot easier.
@clninjarider176 жыл бұрын
Just letting you know on the 2017- 18 ninja 1000 when you use motion pro slack setter tool you have to remove your muffler. It's easy only two bolts. Good videos.. Thanks😁
@chachim30144 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2017 Ninja 1000 today so this video is so helpful. Thanks very much Jonathon.
@ggj666 Жыл бұрын
Excellent guide video, many thanks, and so glad you didn't have any awful music playing on a loop
@d.m78566 жыл бұрын
You make it so easy to understand ,keep up the good work .👍
@JonLong6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dardobartoli4 жыл бұрын
One of the best guides I've ever seen for anything, period as you Americans like to say :-) When I first saw these fittings I panicked, but found your video and all was well in the world again. Thank you for taking the time to produce and share such a wonderfully presented demonstration. I have subscribed and am hoping to learn more from you about this awesome bike. Have you checked out the 2020 yet? In case you're interested: Just picked up the new Ninja 1000SX (finally has the Ninja epithet here in UK/Europe) and found that the bike has a tendency to steer to the right very slightly. Though the dealer will sort when it goes back for 600 first service check, I noticed that the concentric marks were not perfectly matched. Though only a 1/7 difference, I suspect this is enough to result in the right drift. If you have a view as to the drift causes, I can say the bike is brand new, everything is stock, I have tested on positive and negative cambers, tyre pressures good, no wheel vibrations suggesting balancing correct. The thing I cannot get my head round is that if the wheels are not perfectly true, does it trigger counter-steer (or positive steer as they now like to call it) or steer in the direction of the wheels if that makes sense. I've done 250 miles since Saturday, but weather has turned here in UK, so unable to conduct any real testing again, but I hope that a minor tweak to the wheel alignment will address this issue. Thanks again. Bob
@Nirvash246 жыл бұрын
Good video. Check mine at 400 miles. Was at 30mm(in the spec) for I left it alone. Knowing the chain will still stretch some more. I'm still enjoying my 2018 Ninja 1000. Soon I'll be setting rider sag on the suspension.
@davidjames16844 жыл бұрын
@Nirvash - chains don't stretch, they are not rubber bands. They elongate due to wear. Saying a chain "stretches" makes you sound like a noob.
@DanielleWhite5 жыл бұрын
Watching this as I'm about to do the adjustment on mine. I do have the manual but wanted the visual. One difference I noticed is that the torque spec for the pinch bolts is slightly different in my manual, which is for 2014-18 (mine is a 2014) and is 64 N-m or 47 ft-lbs.
@tedfritsch33404 жыл бұрын
Great info, found your video while searching how to adj a 2000 Triump trophy, it has the same set up.
@Dawgs2414 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the vid!! Picking up a new 2017 tomorrow. Moving up from the Ninja 400.
@davidjames16844 жыл бұрын
@Jonathan Long - 1:07 - that is not vertical movement, that is movement perpendicular to the chain which is not perfectly vertical.
@stevethomas17686 жыл бұрын
Very clear instruction, keep the videos coming!
@seanviper994 жыл бұрын
A lot of people seem to forget is that you should adjust your chain with someone similar to your weight sitting on the bike, because it will actually tension up more with someone sitting on it and if you will over tighten it if you bring it to 25mm and then add your weight. I did this and my chain snapped by overtaking a car on a highway
@JonLong4 жыл бұрын
That's incorrect. The 20-30mm slack measurement is supposed to be taken without a rider on the bike, and the bike on its sidestand. The chain will not to be too tight at any point throughout the suspension stroke if you follow those guidelines. It sounds like something else caused your chain to snap.
@seanviper994 жыл бұрын
@@JonLong it was on its last legs and over tightened
@WOLF167h6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonathan, did mine this afternoon and cleaned/lubed chain while I had the tip off!
@Lucians_Sword6 жыл бұрын
Love your vids. More of you riding the Ninja would be awesome
@JonLong6 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to hear that! I’ll be going on a long trip in about 2 weeks and I’ll be making a video for that.
@hubi1433 жыл бұрын
so is this the correct way to adjust the chain? using paddle stand? can you adjust the chain slack using only the side stand? my is zx6r 2019
@JonLong3 жыл бұрын
I answer this question at 01:20
@ThaBigZee Жыл бұрын
Hi , thanks for your video! I'm italian, i'm sorry for my english.. I wolud say: in my bike, after the regolation, the marks on both sides are not exactly the same, when I adjust one side it also moves to the other. Should I try to hold one side when adjusting the other? I tried but it's hard to keep one part locked. I have a Ninja 1000 Sx (year 2020)
@davidjames16844 жыл бұрын
@Jonathan Long - If there was no chain on the bike, could that adjuster spin all the way around 360 degrees? If so, why are there only hash (tick) marks only partway on that adjuster? If not, what is preventing it from spinning all the way around? Also, did you even mention to loosen the nut that holds the rear caliper to the support rod so the axle can move? What about the range of sprocket teeth adjustment allowed with that chain adjuster. From one extreme to the other (max forward vs. max backward adjustment), what is the difference in teeth allowed? 3, 4, 5...? For example, if someone has a 45 tooth rear sprocket and the rear axle is in the highest position as show in your example, but instead they decide to go with a 50 tooth rear sprocket, will that adjuster allow enough "slack" to accommodate the "extra" 5 tooth rear sprocket? Also, what if the chain is already hitting the top of the swingarm with the rear axle in the highest position and someone wants to get a larger rear sprocket not only to change the way the bike accelerates, but also to try to space the chain more away from the swingarm. In adjusting for the additional chain slack needed for the larger rear sprocket, they will lower the axle that thus negate the spacing a "fixed" height rear axle would have given them. These types of adjusters have both pros and cons.
@ArtyYeo3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Jonathan. Very helpful.
@stephanpeterson65905 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jonathon. All your videos very helpful
@JonLong5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad to hear that!
@monikamonia2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos You makes my life much easier 🙂
@lonerider52072 жыл бұрын
Thanks this was good help, just did my first chain adjustment!
@arvy92544 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this, just did mine for the first time also (actually first time ever) feels good :) baby steps... Will be learning servicing next.
@ShomitSarkar6 жыл бұрын
Rear and front wheel removal video will also be helpful
@gurgenmakaryan44284 жыл бұрын
So clearly explained and showed!! What's your camera that you're filming with?! Images are so clean! Thank you!!
@ianhodgkins11815 жыл бұрын
Hi got a 2018 Z1000sx thanks so very much for all your info on our bike.how can I get your socket/ratchet set there is nothing over here in the uk like your,love cocker.
@JonLong5 жыл бұрын
This is what I use. I ordered from Amazon. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIWafKFphd-hf8k
@MrXjoeharperx11 ай бұрын
Once again I am doing emergency maintenance and Jonathan saves my butt lol.
@adyraduta2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Do you have a video on how to allign the back wheel? Thx!
@moto_verde38336 жыл бұрын
Another very helpful video. Thank you Sir!
@giosim7511 ай бұрын
Hi what's brand and model of your key dinamometric? Thank you
@johnnyappleseedz422 Жыл бұрын
Why exactly must the slack be checked on the sidestand? And why can't there be a conversion means of setting the slack while up on spools?
@adembry5 ай бұрын
Very clear instructions. Thanks!
@themayorofdipshittery36463 жыл бұрын
Really helpful video, easily followed, thanks.
@Andy-zl7ce3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jon, you're videos are excellent and I find them really useful however I'm a bit confused is it the maximum distance between chain movement? I'm presuming you move it up and then measure from the highest point to the lowest point?
@JonLong3 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, thanks for the note. Yes, to measure the chain slack, you measure from the high point (pushing the chain up) to the low point (pushing the chain down). Make sure you measure from the same point on the chain for both the high and low measurements.
@darthorpheus6 жыл бұрын
Ok, but the manual and the shop at the dealer says to make the adjustments on BOTH sides. Could you clarify what you meant by the chain can be adjusted on one side?
@JonLong6 жыл бұрын
The adjusters on both sides of the bike need to be rotated equally. This ensures that the rear wheel stays properly aligned. In my experience, because each adjuster is clamped on the axle, they rotate together even if you’re just turning one side. You should still verify that markings match up on both sides of the swing arm.
@EyeForKnowledge.5 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t work by only turning one side. You need to turn one side then the other to line them up properly b
@marcs92985 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation and thanks for that...could you also post a video how to allign the rear wheel...?
@pongassassin4 жыл бұрын
Marc S I think he was saying that you can use the built in measurement on the axle assembly to check. If you’re at precisely the same notch & partial notch on each side, you should be aligned.
@Kawasaki-qb8hh6 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!! Def help me out!!!!! Thanks for the clear instructions!!!!!!
@JonLong6 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@huambo5 жыл бұрын
How is your chain so clean!
@bastienbastien41723 жыл бұрын
merci pour ta video cela ma bien aidé
@jimmymcjimmyvich905210 ай бұрын
Thank you. Now I can head off to Galway))
@temptingfate7595 жыл бұрын
If your on a long road trip with no access to a center stand...is it possible to make this adjustment on the bike's side stand or will the weight of the bike preclude the rear wheel from moving? The bike is sold as a sport touring bike but they dont make a center stand for it...ie a 3 to 4 week road trip without access to a shop could be an issue...I am looking at buying this model but that question is the hold up???
@JonLong5 жыл бұрын
Although the adjustment is supposed to be made with the rear wheel suspended, I’m pretty sure you could make the adjustment with the bike on the ground. You would just need to make sure that your Allen wrench has enough leverage to make a controlled adjustment. Another option would be to look at something like the Snap Jack or Pack Jack. Those help lift the bike onto the kickstand to get the rear wheel off the ground. That would make it easier to lube the chain, too. The NInja is a great sport touring bike, but it is missing some of the more common touring amenities (cruise control and center stand).
@temptingfate7595 жыл бұрын
@@JonLong thanks...good info I appreciate it
@xballa186 жыл бұрын
awesome vid. Does the same apply to z900??
@JonLong6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! No, I believe the Z900 has a conventional axle adjuster.
@xballa186 жыл бұрын
You're right!! I asked the question before watching the video *facepalm* Thanks man!
@edwinfernando113 жыл бұрын
Do you know if this is the same procedure on the 2021 ninja 1000sx?
@andreas.kisser3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I've the model of 2021 - it's the same procedure. But to be honest, the chain slack of 20-30mm is too less; I did the adjustment with 40-45mm and this works really fine; with this adjustment the chain slack is sufficiently correct for one and also for 2 persons on the bike - without any risk to destroy the chain and/or the shaft bearing; if you adjust the chain slack to the values you can find in the driver's manual (20-30mm on the kickstand) and then you sit down on the bike, you will see that the chain is stretched - that's not good!
@edwinfernando113 жыл бұрын
@@andreas.kisser thank you!
@johnrobey-b4y5 ай бұрын
How much slack one inch is normal?
@charlievelez35104 жыл бұрын
so easy-to-follow-video. I do have one question though...what if the notches do not align properly!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How do we set that straight!!!????? :( Thank you in advanced Sir!
@RickyJr464 жыл бұрын
Charlie, you'll see Jon's answered that one in the posts below.
@PHILIPWATSON824 жыл бұрын
I'm sticking to the older models they are less complicated
@allanrobertson20785 жыл бұрын
Could you do a vid on rear and front wheel removal?
@JonLong5 жыл бұрын
Yup! I plan on doing that in the next month or so when I replace my tires.
@ruimteschipYT5 жыл бұрын
thanks awesome guide helps me allot
@JonLong5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’m glad to hear that!
@sro24056 жыл бұрын
What paddock stand and spools are you using? Thanks!
@JonLong6 жыл бұрын
I'm using a T-Rex stand (www.t-rex-racing.com) and LighTech spools. For the spools, I'm using a 1/4" extended bolt and a 1/4" spacers to get the spools a little further away from the swingarm. That modification is not necessary, but it made it easier for me to avoid having the cradles of the paddock stand accidentally touch the swingarm.
@craftwanderer88026 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, what happens when the adjuster reaches the last marking?
@JonLong6 жыл бұрын
That would only happen if you adjusted the gearing (remove a tooth or two in the front or rear sprocket) or the chain stretched quite a lot. If it’s chain stretch, then you’re probably due for a replacement, and likely need to replace the sprockets too.
@craftwanderer88026 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Long ahhh so basically once you keep adjusting until the last marking, that's the indicator to change everything. Thanks!
@JonLong6 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. It is true that you should replace your chain if it stretches so far that you need to max out your adjuster, but that may be well past when the chain should have been replaced. You may want to look up guidelines on when to replace your chain. Things like tight and loose sections of the chain, sprocket wear, mileage, and general condition of the chain are usually a better indicator.
@philippelemaire48845 жыл бұрын
Another video idea is chain change and maybe sproket, spark plug change.
@johnbeardsley73602 жыл бұрын
good video
@lowspeed20006 жыл бұрын
No need for new thread lock?
@thomaskristensen32015 жыл бұрын
Wow that is a clean bike
@craftwanderer88023 жыл бұрын
so I just need to adjust it from one side?
@JonLong3 жыл бұрын
You can adjust it from one side, but you need to make sure that it moves equally on both sides. Check the alignment on both sides to make sure they're equal.
@craftwanderer88023 жыл бұрын
@@JonLong hey man, I just tightened my chain but it still makes noises when at speed. I know it's hitting the chain guard, the lower part. does that mean it's too lose?
@Steverinomeister5 жыл бұрын
Nice Vid but it’s an eccentric adjuster. If it was concentric it wouldn’t move the axle.
@JonLong5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping nobody noticed! I realized the mistake after I uploaded the video and didn’t feel like going back to correct it (although I did note the error in the video description).
@voodoopup4376 Жыл бұрын
Why can't all bike have their chains adjusted like this?
@njohnson33315 жыл бұрын
So, is 56 mm too much slack? Just kidding, it's more like 60 mm. Thanks for the video.
@Pytte5 жыл бұрын
you seriously have to use a torque wrench ? What would happen if you over tighten ?
@JonLong5 жыл бұрын
If you overtighten enough, you could strip the threads in the swingarm. If you undertighten, the chain adjuster could slip. You never NEED a torque wrench, but it’s up to you to make sure the bolts are properly torqued. This is an instructional video, so I emphasize the importance of proper torque. When working on my own, I have a good sense of torque, but still use a torque wrench for very high and very low torque values, or on super critical components such as brake caliper mounting bolts.
@latkabrodomir57743 жыл бұрын
you have 190\55 190\50 ??
@JonLong3 жыл бұрын
190/50. Stock size.
@ameramer464 жыл бұрын
Hey man are going to adjust engine or chain ...why all of that u made it so hard operation ...
@californiaprofile4 жыл бұрын
Chain seems too tight in video
@bikerdave17274 жыл бұрын
Agree, the chain should only be adjusted when fully loaded, as the swing arm moves up it tensions the chain
@craftwanderer88023 жыл бұрын
@@bikerdave1727 hey man, I just tightened my chain but it still makes noises when at speed. I know it's hitting the chain guard. does that mean it's too lose?
@californiaprofile4 жыл бұрын
10lbs of pressure why do you do this
@michaeldelgado18646 жыл бұрын
Of course the measurement will be the same on the kick stand because you have the weight of the bike on the paddock stand/bobbins. Theres no difference
@JonLong6 жыл бұрын
When the bike is on the paddock stand, all of the weight for the rear of the bike is supported by the rear suspension. When the kickstand is down, however, part of the weight is supported by the kickstand, which takes some of the weight off the rear suspension. Also, the kickstand can limit how much the suspension compresses. It’s common practice for manufacturers to specify whether the chain slack measurement is taken on the side stand or not.
@EyeForKnowledge.5 жыл бұрын
I tightened mine to that spec and it’s way too tight. So tight it’s making a binding noise as I rotate the wheel. So I loosened it. Rather too loose than too tight.
@horsthose40894 жыл бұрын
With a folding stick ... I do it in 70 seconds.
@christianpaul33033 жыл бұрын
"Every 600 miles or so..." Uh, oh.
@ZERODOSI3 жыл бұрын
Troppe chiacchiere e troppi scrupoli ma chiaro.
@futureboy40 Жыл бұрын
Wish you didn't suck at explaining this
@tibany55 жыл бұрын
Do you really need all these tools man? I could do it with my nails ...
@JonLong5 жыл бұрын
No, you don’t need all these tools. But my nails are SAE, not metric, so I have to use tools.
@horsthose40895 жыл бұрын
You speak too much!!! Its explainable in 2 minutes.
@JonLong5 жыл бұрын
Good idea! I’ll keep doing what I’m doing, but you should make 2 minute videos with less talking!
@tgrman16 жыл бұрын
you have to check the chain slack every 600 miles ??? what a pain thats gotta be , I'm glad my bike has a drive shaft !
@bigpapa81525 жыл бұрын
Amen to that.
@RickyJr464 жыл бұрын
The convenience of shaft drive gives you the extra time to watch videos about chain adjustment. Interesting pastime for sure! 😉
@tedmagnum6968 Жыл бұрын
You did not find the tight spot on the chain. Fail !!!! There is no need to do this on a paddock stand. You should do this adjustment on the side stand where the correct tension is measured. Double fail !!! A youtube channel does not make you a good mechanic.
@JonLong Жыл бұрын
I address both of those points specifically, before even starting the adjustment. It usually helps to watch the video before commenting on what you think was missed.