Couple of good points there. I have been adjusting chains for more than 40 years now, and I have never even considered looking out for movement on the top run. Also, wedging something between the chain and sprocket to pull everything forward is a great idea.
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Ashaliel Жыл бұрын
yeah, i usually bang on stuff with a rubber or deadblow hammer, but the wedging trick seems much better.
@nigelmitchell351 Жыл бұрын
@@FabMotorbikesThanks Fab, I have a metre long piece of 12mm bright round bar which I know is perfectly straight, I remove the chain guard and lay this bar on, or rather in,the top run of the chain. Pushing it as far toward to the drive sprocket as possible. Then I measure from the Bar to the front and back of the wheel rim, adjusting until equal measurements and the correct chain tension is arrived at. This gives perfect chain and front to back wheel alignment. ATB. Ps, I've done this for years and think this is original as I've never heard of it before .
@richardcloudbase9 ай бұрын
@@AshalielYou do need to be careful, as you can put a lot of strain in the chain.
@ginoasci6 ай бұрын
You’ve been adjusting chains for 40 years and you’re complimenting someone else on their techniques, this makes you an open minded, mature, considerate, and you’ve got your ego in check. I love people like you.
@YamR52 ай бұрын
The clearest, straight forward, easy to follow guide ever. I watched probably 10 other videos and come away scratching my head, this 5 min video is super easy and clear. Mate thank you so much.
@FabMotorbikes2 ай бұрын
Thank you. Glad it’s helpful 👍 remember to check your user manual though, this guide is quite specific to my bike. I should’ve mentioned that.
@foesfly304710 ай бұрын
Several good tips here- thanks. I appreciate how quickly you get into the actual subject. Too many channels, on any subject, have a big production intro, followed by the presenter telling me what he’s going to teach me, followed by his telling me how qualified he is, which is of course, followed by him telling me at least 2 or three more times, what he’s about to teach me. At this point, I usually click to a different channel.. one that respects my time… like yours.
@FabMotorbikes10 ай бұрын
Thank you. I try to keep it to the point.
@USARAY1947 Жыл бұрын
The trick of the wrench between the sprocket and chain is gold. Thanks.
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
no problem, glad to be useful
@eastcoastmostwanted7107 ай бұрын
Bless this man
@wynnmorris62706 ай бұрын
A piece of rag works even better.
@FabMotorbikes6 ай бұрын
Agreed
@FabMotorbikes6 ай бұрын
Agreed 👍
@rthorarensen2 жыл бұрын
Finally I find someone who shows me in a very understandable way how to set the right slack of the chain. Now I am confident in doing the chain on my KTM 1290r adventure. Thank you! 🤗
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to be helpful, thank you for watching 👍
@moulip2 жыл бұрын
@ragnar careful with KTM. You can't use his technique to measure the dead center where to search the tightest point. You have to take it somewhere after the chain slider under the swing arm. I have a Duke 890 R myself and KTM has its own peculiar way of measuring chain slack. !!
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t know this. Thank you 👍
@rthorarensen2 жыл бұрын
@@moulip Thank you for the information. Yes it´s a bit more hassle to get it right on the KTM.
@eriksmith71423 жыл бұрын
This is the most in-depth & straight to the point video I've seen on this. I also wanted to mention the way you described the alignment technique you used (with wedging an object in between the chain/sprocket) was very clear & direct. Much appreciated brother
@FabMotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Really glad you found it useful. The only thing i forgot to mention was that slack measurements can differ from bike to bike, especially for those with out a centre stand. Thanks again and ride safe!
@royarnab222 жыл бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes Is it ok to do it on side stand especially when on a ride, roadside? And I guess the owners manual always show measurement using centre stand or paddock stand?
@crakka5150 Жыл бұрын
@@royarnab22 you can definitely do it while on the kickstand but if you want to do it the best way then you’re going to want to do it on a rear stand or rig something up to where your rear tire is off the ground. You don’t really want pressure on your rear tire from sitting on the ground while your bike is titled over like how it is on the kick stand. If you have to do it roadside emergency wise then you might want to check it and see if it need to be readjusted back at home with the tire suspended in the air.
@pemotor541 Жыл бұрын
It would be worth mentioning that the slack measurement should be done as indicated in the user manual, most often on the side stand, not the central one like seen in the video. Thanks for the tips 🤗
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
100% agree . I said this but, no where near clear enough. Every bike is different. This is for my bike . Thanks for watching
@h4xi0rek Жыл бұрын
FZ6 has the measurement on the center stand with 45-55mm slack per user/service manual. And too loose is much better than too tight - you are more likely to destroy your chain if you are too religious with adjustments:)
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍
@exodeus7959 Жыл бұрын
@@h4xi0rek so it’s like growing a beard. Don’t try to make every hair perfect it never will be. Good advice. Thanks.
@stevecade857 Жыл бұрын
Measuring chain slack and finding the tightest section just using the side stand is a complete nightmare. Get a paddock stand to maintain static sag on the suspension and still turn the rear wheel without all the hassle.
@Weeem5 ай бұрын
@04:20 Not the only way. I struggled for a long time to get the wheel aligned having to adjust left and right until eventually I thought it was straight. Took ages. Then I started using a Vernier Caliper to measure the axle block gap to make sure it's 100% even rather than eyeballing the marks on the swingarm. Works every time and it's so much faster
@justinsugay1149 Жыл бұрын
So many little details make a big difference. Much appreciated! Didn't know most any of this. So many ways to get this wrong. I'll need to reference this video often until I get it all memorized. Thanks!
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Glad it was useful
@Sebas4PF5 ай бұрын
Thought I got all the right points in my adjusting process but this dude dropping some really useful tips for things I wasn't able to address before.. Good stuff here.
@FabMotorbikes5 ай бұрын
Thank you !
@charlottejet43382 жыл бұрын
This is the best guide to chain adjustment I have ever seen. Spot on!
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad it was useful. One thing I forgot was to mention that you should make sure you measure your slack based on what is needed for your bike. E.g on my bike, it’s when it’s on the centre stand. But in yours it may be on the side stand or a paddock stand. They’re all different!
@charlottejet43382 жыл бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes On mine it is the side stand. I ride a ZZR1400, and with the twin exhausts it's a real pain in the ass to do. I noticed it clunking more into first gear and from first to second last Saturday, so I thought I'd better adjust it. I've since cleaned the bike and chain but, this weekend I'll do the adjustment. Thanks again for your excellent video.
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
😊 no worries thanks for watching 👍
@stevebrown7584 Жыл бұрын
A good video guide for those who haven't done it before. One point I would like to add is that the alignment markings on the swing arm should NOT be relied on as accurate. OK for a rough setting but better to check the wheel alignment with a straight edge-preferably one each side of the wheel. I was amazed to learn how far out these factory markings can be! For the absolute best accuracy get the wheels aligned by someone with a laser alignment kit. More precise than any eye measurements and you can actually feel the difference when riding. Quite a few bike shops have laser alignment kits these days.
@williammahoney6968 Жыл бұрын
Yea this is why I came here. Pretty sure my factory marks are off by 25% the distance between the etched lines. Exhaust and other stuff in the way of measuring from swingarm to rear axle bolt on both sides to confirm. I ordered a motion pro sight alignment tool that clamps to the chain, but not thrilled with the prospects of that, either. Also not thrilled with the price of the laser option but perhaps that's what it'll take to satisfy the standard I'm trying to acheive.
@888jackflash Жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct. My Bandit 1200 chain adjusters are off by a FULL MARK. I recommend a "sprocket pointer tool, such as by Motion Pro, which latches on to your rear sprocket and has a stick/pointer that runs parallel with your chain edges.. a better form of adjustment.
@neiljarvis89119 ай бұрын
Laser chain alignment tools are not that an expensive addition to your toolkit. I have profi-cat laser adjuster and with several bikes it gets enough use to justify its cost. I must have had it about 15 years and was amazed to see how much they cost now (mind you, I say that about the cost of everything) good tools pay for themselves over and over again! Don't work on your bike with its supplied toolkit (except in a roadside emergency), it's quality is very low, invest in some combination spanners, sockets, a few screwdrivers (jis and flat blades) and some allen keys. Aldi and lidl sell tools plenty good enough quality and in real terms tools have never been so cheap.
@pielight74496 ай бұрын
Clear and concise with some good tips, particularly around pulling the wheel forward to take the slack up in the adjusters before tightening the wheel (now subscribed). Having had an off due to the chain snapping and locking up the back wheel on an RD400 back in the 70s, I'm still a bit paranoid about precise chain adjustment/maintenance. One thing I question though is omitting top rung slack - I have always presumed (perhaps wrongly) that you are meant to be measuring total, rather than just bottom rung chain slack. One reason I've made this assumption is that on at least some bikes which are adjusted on the side stand, the manufacturer stipulates putting the bike into neutral. This suggests to me that this is specifically allow the slack to be taken up in the top rung - being in gear would in fact prevent top rung slack being measured, so if you didn't want to measure top rung slack, having the bike in first gear would help prevent this. Am I perhaps missing something here? I also find it hard to get my head around the universal instruction to pull the chain down as well as up to measure slack. if the gearbox is in neutral, or wheel is off the ground when measuring slack, in my enfeebled brain tells me that all slack will be measured just pushing the chain upwards?
@Deejaychachi9 күн бұрын
Yes I found it useful, and the title goes with the video "...Precisión". This is a 5 star video, thank you for sharing knoledge and tech.
@FabMotorbikes9 күн бұрын
Thank you
@gsoup7850 Жыл бұрын
You should adjust both sides together, so keeping the wheel aligned when checking tension. With this method, you got your tension perfect by only using one adjuster, then aligned the other side which would have changed the tension again. Thanks for the other tips, I will try them next time I adjust.
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips I do agree. Although I find that the key is to keep checking, checking and checking again. Things often annoyingly move.
@gsoup7850 Жыл бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes That's true 👍
@andrewperry605 Жыл бұрын
You said what I was thinking. I always do 1/4 turn on one side, then the other, then check. Down to smaller adjustments if needed but always to both sides
@wattysautos54422 жыл бұрын
Hi cheers for your video, I have just bought an alignment tool to clamp onto the sprocket to double check my swing arm markings as they are known to be out on most bikes. I can in theory look down the chain via a rod to eye it up. Has anybody used one of these tools as well?
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
I’ve not used one. But I do think they’re a great idea.
@snakerstran9101 Жыл бұрын
I've played with those. Problem is there often isn't open space for them to do their thing.
@jimdanby96943 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fab, that's a handy tip about sticking a spanner in the sprocket to shunt the axle forwards.
@FabMotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. Glad you found it useful 👍
@colinjrob2 жыл бұрын
Very real world Fab by working on a bike that is obviously regularly used and not one of those showroom "licked clean" machines that is so unbelieveable and unrealistic. This is just good and honest. Keep on keeping on dude. Thumbs up!
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
thank you! I appreciate that. all the best
@disaffectedmale2 жыл бұрын
I love my garage queen, I'm able to keep it in showroom condition with baby wipes and quick detailer. I don't even get it wet to wash it. My kit is just as clean. Each to their own I say. If you're happy riding a mucky looking thing then that's fine too. But for me, nothing like turning heads with a sparkling clean bike, which I do whenever I ride mine. I also never get asked to remove my helmet at petrol stations for fuelling or payment probably because my bike always looks brand new. I enjoy cleaning it too so it's a double win for me. My car is just as well looked after.
@peterford96749 ай бұрын
A very useful video & some helpful tips on tensioning the chain, which I didn’t know about & I have been riding bikes for more than 50 years! Thanks
@FabMotorbikes9 ай бұрын
Thank you
@affent1522Ай бұрын
That's what I was looking for, straight to the point with the tools that you have at house, no lasers, expensive torq wrenches and bullshit. Great stuff 👍
@FabMotorbikesАй бұрын
Glad to hear of help! Only thing I would recommend is to read you user manual. The measurements I quote are for my bike , not every bike. For your bike it may not be optimal to adjust the chain on the centre stand.
@kingkire1556 Жыл бұрын
The end of the chain slider on top of the swingarm is usually halfway and where manufactures tell you to check tension. No need to measure the whole thing and then half👍🏼
@geniuspackardbell369 Жыл бұрын
If you say *usually * then perhaps there is a need for measuring - 4 seconds job.
@MrMesospheric6 ай бұрын
Excellent, no-BS advice. A lot of people will benefit from this. Thanks!
@FabMotorbikes6 ай бұрын
Thank you, glad it was helpful 👍
@samiam247 Жыл бұрын
You say that adjusting the axle block and comparing to notches on the swingarm is the best and only way, that's only true if those notches are accurate, many bikes come from the factory with those settings out of whack, both screw type or snail cams can be out by quite a bit, you'll also lose accuracy with worn parts like bearings, for true accuracy set the axle to the same notches on both sides, then use a long rod with a sliding pointer and measure from the swingarm pivot to the axle pivot, the measurement should be exactly the same on both sides of the bike, with that established and with compensating for any inaccuracies you can properly adjust the chain, distance between the swingarm pivot and center of axle are all that matters, always treat the adjustment markings as suspect. excellent video.
@strhmh6 ай бұрын
bro you have no idea how your video had helped me adjusting my chain....thank you!!
@FabMotorbikes6 ай бұрын
Thank you . Glad it helped!
@jettlasseter2 жыл бұрын
Best explaining I’ve ever seen on a chain adjustment! Well done mate!
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad it was helpful 👍
@bikedawg2 жыл бұрын
I think to measure total slack, you have to push the chain all the way down as far as it can go then up as far as it can go. I believe this is the only way to standardize the measurements and according to motorcycle manufacturers.
@jimtoone1777 Жыл бұрын
Correct
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
This is a tip I learned from Dave moss tuning. (Great channel by the way). It ensures maximum suspension travel and reduces the risk of over tightening.It’s not for everyone. And it’s definitely not an official manufacturing recommendation.
@lillnemo1 Жыл бұрын
@@FabMotorbikesthen you didn't may attention. Cause Dave Moss clearly said to push (up AND down) the chain on the bottom side till it starts to rise on the top side. In other words: measure WITHOUT overtensioning the chain when measuring
@erxfav3197 Жыл бұрын
@@lillnemo1I’m pretty sure he addresses this in the video..
@erxfav3197 Жыл бұрын
I think you do want to measure both up AND down (which I think he says in the video) however you want to do so without the other side of the chain also moving. (Otherwise it would be an immaculate measurement).
@patchpaddy3 жыл бұрын
Question if I may. Are you sure the tension is checked with the rear wheel suspended aka no load? I thought it was bet checked with the bikes weight aka using paddock stand. I truly don't know, just asking. Thank you AND nice video ;-)
@FabMotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Hi there! I do agree for the most part and this is something I wish I mentioned more clearly in the video 😊. It basically depends on the bike. I was working off the specifications for my bike. Which states that the wheel should be adjusted on the centre stand and is a big reason why it looks loose when I’m done (as the chain tightens up with weight on the bike). At time of recording most of my followers had the same bike as me. The video has amazingly reached further than I anticipated. Overall I’d advise checking your user manual for your bike, then you know it is correct. E.g you may not have a centre stand. Thanks so much for watching and cheers for the comment!👍also… what bike do you have?
@robertnichols69112 жыл бұрын
I have come across motorcycle chain alignment marks, that don't tally with each other & I've found that both sides of the wheel adjustment need's to be equal first before checking the tension otherwise like you shown, the chain tension can go out i:e to tight
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
I guess I have been really lucky. All my bikes the marks have been bang on. Do you measure the axle to the swing arm bearing?
@ronb7105 Жыл бұрын
While its up, lube that chain and give it a wipe. I check for sprocket wear and if the chain can be lifted off the rear sprocket (indicating chain wear). String lining/laser measurements are generally overkill in my opinion, yes a lot are out but I'd bet not one of us could tell the difference (MC Mech +30yrs exp). Thumbs up for the clear instruction and hints.
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you i
@snakerstran9101 Жыл бұрын
Agree, but I will one up you. Clean and lube BEFORE adjusting. A loosened up chain can affect adjustment quite a bit vs a dirty/binding one. Plus there is no sense to adjust if it turns out that the chain fails inspection.
@mikasihite53468 ай бұрын
Life saver. I adjusted the axle nut too far back and I didn't know how to push it back forward. That trick at 3:39 saved me
@FabMotorbikes8 ай бұрын
Glad it helped you
@suprlite8 ай бұрын
I just kick the wheel when that happens.
@Gabbiano889 ай бұрын
Thx for the video its the same setup as on my CSC RX4.... I have been neglecting doing the chain adjustment and had alot of slack..... I was to nervous to do it before solo... Video helped a lot :-)
@FabMotorbikes9 ай бұрын
Glad to be of service! FYI the measurements given are for my bike specifically. Please check your manual
@Gabbiano889 ай бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes I followed the measurements that was printed on the swing arm…. My china bike manual is trash ☠️
@thewatcher52719 ай бұрын
That Was Pretty Good, Man. I Did Not Know To Measure Between The Two Sprockets. Thank You.
Thank you! I’m glad it was helpful. The only thing I would add is to check your manual in regards to measurements and whether you should be adjusting your chain on your centre stand or side stand. As that will differ from bike to bike. Ride safe!👍
@JJPM932 жыл бұрын
Clear and to the point. This helped me sort out my chain before our 2 week trip around the UK. Subscribed
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! enjoy the tour!
@billsinclair6515 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Brother Fab for THE best instruction I ever saw on how to adjust your chain, subscribed!
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you . Hope it was useful 👍
@Mike40M5 ай бұрын
When finally tightening the axle nut at 5:17 he said a tendency to pull back. If you fit spanner handle down, you pull forward. I've used 3 different methods for aligning the wheels over the past 60 years. On most bikes front tyre is thinner than rear. First learned the string method tying string to front wheel and with string touching front of rear wheel, then checking distance to rear part of tyre, both sides. Second method, described in many manuals. Use two long straight planks touching rear wheel, front and rear. Distances from plank to front wheel shall be equal. Third method. Use a 24 inch spirit laser level pushed against rear tyre. Small cardboard boxes on each side of front wheel. Sharpie mark on laser dot. My own idea when I could not find straight planks nor a string in the workshop. Fasted and easiest to do. All alignments done with bike vertical.
@robin_miller_music Жыл бұрын
All very useful, thanks, especially the shoving a spanner in tricks! Question, why is the centre-point of the chain not marked on the swing-arm by the manufacturer??
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
I’ve been told that the centre point is the end of the plastic chain runner in the top of the swing arm… but I think they don’t mark it as the centre can change as the wheel moves backwards.
@markymarknj2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very HELPFUL video! Since we've had a winter storm in the eastern US, I've been doing projects on my bike; adjusting my chain and aligning the wheel is one of those projects. I've watched a few different videos, but they all left something out. Yours helped make sense, so I'll be able to set things right. Thanks! Cheers... :)
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you. I’m glad it was helpful 👍
@TornadoCAN99 Жыл бұрын
I like the tip of using something to jam in the sprocket to tension everything up while torquing the axle nut. My '74 Norton Commando really changes chain tension b/c of axle movement when torquing the axle bolt. Will try your tip. Although you stated your tension spec was for bike on center stand, might want to emphasize why that is important. Many folks see the slack spec and just measure it with bike on side stand, centerstand (if equipped) or a paddock stand. It is critical to know what the spec is meant to be measured at (side, center stand or even with weight of rider sat on bike etc.) b/c the swing arm is not pivoting exactly where the front sprocket rotates...the slack spec needs to take this difference into account for the given geometry bike.
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
I completely agree, I should have emphasised more than I did that this is for my bike only . It’s different for side stands and paddock stands
@michaelskinner8962 жыл бұрын
Best chain adjustment guide I've seen. Thanks for including the all important observation of the top chain movement - If the chain on top is moving while you're pushing up on the bottom part of the chain, you're pushing too hard. Thanks for making this super clear, concise, and complete.
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad it was useful. The. Only think I forgot to mention was that every bike will differ in regards to whether the chain will be adjust whilst in the side stand , centre stand or on a paddock stand. In my case the measurements are for when the bike is on the centre stand, therefore the slack will be looser.
@matjazpajek4390 Жыл бұрын
Interesting and well informed video. Just to add, on my nc750x it doesn't matter if you measure the slack on side stand or center stand. The results are the same.
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Interesting thank you
@abcdefghijk509510 ай бұрын
Thank you Sir. Great video. Sharp and illustrative. The tip in using a screwdriver to assist moving the axle forward was brilliant. Off to tighten mine. Thanks from the antipodes (Australia)🦘.
@FabMotorbikes10 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching
@FeltIntuition3 жыл бұрын
Your explanations are fantastic, great attitude and delivery..
@FabMotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 I’m glad the video was useful 👍
@martinace Жыл бұрын
Hi Fabian, You've educated me. I didn't know your trick of "shunting" the wheel forward by using a screwdriver between the rear sprocket and chain. Thank you.
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad it was helpful
@ianc1304 Жыл бұрын
Excellent directions on chain tightening, no waffle and infilling... great work
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@vanillaglue3 ай бұрын
Use a rag instead of a wrench between the sprocket and the chain. Cool tip I saw in another video, except yours explained why you do it! Thanks!
@FabMotorbikes3 ай бұрын
Rag is a way better tool for this. Thanks for watching!
@vanillaglue2 ай бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes i was tightening my chain and then forgot the rag between the sprocket and the chain. I had the bike on the stand and put in first. The rag travelled through the back sprocket and then it snapped down after the rag made it out. Did i destroy the chain? 😥
@JonTheJoestar Жыл бұрын
This is the best tutorial Ive come across/ thank you for being so clear and concise
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you I hope it was useful
@aikhowtan6527 Жыл бұрын
Very good video. How to move the back wheel backward when the chain is too thigh. My bike chain is over tightened by the motorshop. And now I want to loosen it .
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Definitely worth doing. Thank you for watching
@craighoffman6876 Жыл бұрын
Nice thorough tutorial. I find that the punch marks on the swingarm aren't necessarily even with each other, especially on KTMs. This can lead to a rear wheel that is slightly out of alignment. Being insanely detail oriented, I measure from the end of the swingarm to the block to make sure both sides are even. I use a micrometer, although a simple ruler will due I suppose! After setting the adjusters to be exactly even, you can simply count the "flats" on the adjusting screw when making small adjustments going forward.
@craighoffman6876 Жыл бұрын
@@Pwilli-hs6yi Indeed. I use an inside/outside caliper. Such a handy tool to have around!
@williammahoney6968 Жыл бұрын
I like this concept, but a couple potential problems I'd like to make up to ruin both of our day. What if the welder didn't slap together the swing arm so each arm is perfectly the same length? What if the hole in the block which the axle slides through wasn't drilled perfectly centered in the block? What if the blocks weren't manufactured to the exact same demensions?
@KubuśpuchatekTVN Жыл бұрын
@@williammahoney6968 "What if the welder didn't slap together the swing arm so each arm is perfectly the same length?" Then the markings are off also.
@onanysundrymule3144 Жыл бұрын
@@williammahoney6968What if the alignment markings are applied after the assemble as been fabricated?
@bobbradley291 Жыл бұрын
Can I suggest trapping a folded rag between chain and sprocket rather than a metal spanner? It will still lock the system up but will not damage either the chain or sprocket (or both).
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Good idea
@NOSSSArmy Жыл бұрын
KZbinrs to this day still cannot explain the process this good
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
thank you
@luizdejardin4432 Жыл бұрын
Simple and easy, best chain tutorial I've seen till now, thanks bro!
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@danj93392 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this mate. The manual for my kawasaki is fooking stupid for chain tension. It mentions nothing about keeping an eye on the top chain run when measuring, which meant I over tightened my chain. I knew it couldn't be right cos when I sat on the bike the chain had no slack at all. It's so simple someone like you explains it properly!
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful
@tombailey63422 жыл бұрын
Two things there... You have not mentioned the need to shunt the non sprocket side up against the adjuster bolt. Secondly, the marks on the axle bolt block and the swinging arm you cant always trust. Best to either get a laser gadget, or do as i do and measure accurately the distances on each side from centre of swinging arm and centre of ear axle. I had issues with a new sprocket and chain set i fitted. It had a loud whine, mostly when power on in midrange speeds. I too trusted the makers marks, but on this occasion they were a good few mm out. I set the correct alignment and the whine was better. Tip.. Use a ratchet or cam strap around the foot pegs and rear wheel to keep the rear wheel shunted up to the adjusters the whole time.
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the feedback and tips. Overall I’ve found that using my method has been great for shunting both sides simultaneously but can be different on each bike. Similarly, I’ve only have good experiences with the knotches on the swing up… this too could be down to my bikes. I’ve heard a lot about the laxer tools, seem to be a good idea
@miken18752 жыл бұрын
As others have rightly said, perfectly described and straight to the point. Instantly subbed. Thank you!
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching 👍
@TheOriginalProfG Жыл бұрын
Now, I have seen some people tighten the chain when the bike is on its side stand. i have seen others tighten the chain while the bike is on a centre stand. I have even seen people tightening the chain when using paddock stands. and ALL of them swear that theirs is the correct way. Here you did yours on the centre stand but did not explain why. Can you explain which method is best and why? My bike manual shows it being tightened when the bike is on its side stand. I also use vernier calipers for accurate measurements as the notches despite being accurate are not accurate enough to the naked eye, while the vernier caliper's measurements are exact to 1000th of a mm.
@raiko_too Жыл бұрын
i would first straighten the rear wheel, then check the slack of the chain, i found that straightening it affects the chain as well, so in your case it might be too much slack now... havent measured it yet, it just seems to me as i am doing it that it gets tighter when you adjust the other side...
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Not noticed this my self but will keep a look out next time. Thank you
@carolinelea3063 Жыл бұрын
Can tightening your chain affect the rear suspension? I followed your instructions but ever since the rear shock has started to squeek.. any idea? Thanks.. great info.. for newbees like me
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
I have had it when a rear shock starts to squeak when the tension is set correctly. This is because it is allowing full move of the suspension . May be worth spray some grease around the shock mounting bolts.
@TamaHawkLive Жыл бұрын
This is a process that really alludes me but this video helps a lot with visualizing what's going on with each part. Most straight forward explanation of all of this. I've been trying to use those chain slack tools but I think I'll try the tape measure method and just use some basic math to figure it out because I honestly don't know if I'm even using the chain tool right to begin with lol.
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear this has been helpful! What is the chain slack tool?
@TamaHawkLive Жыл бұрын
@FabMotorbikes it's the motion pro chain tool. I really don't know how to properly measure with it because it has multiple moving parts but it's supposed to be more accurate.
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
I’ll look it up, thanks!
@Benjammin06242 жыл бұрын
Hands down best explanation on KZbin !!
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Just be sure to check if you should measure your chain slack on your centre stand, side stand, whilst sitting on your bike or on a paddock stand. I missed this bit out
@thetruthserum28165 ай бұрын
Perfect video! I like to keep spare links and a chain breaker tool in my kit. After I clean my chain with ISO and a toothbrush, I use a toothbrush and 10W-30 oil to re-lube it. It drinks about 3 wide caps full. If you change your chain, change both sprockets as well, as parts that wear together repair together. If you power wash your bike, avoid directly blasting the chain, and clean and lube it right away.
@FabMotorbikes5 ай бұрын
Great tips. Glad you enjoyed the video
@teatuu Жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful video. To the point, all possible details mentioned and short. Perfect
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I hope it was useful
@teatuu Жыл бұрын
Indeed it was
@Alex-kj9rc4 ай бұрын
Great video, but should this normally be done with a torque wrench?
@FabMotorbikes4 ай бұрын
My official answer is yes. But I have never used one in my 15 years of motorcycling
@ReggieChump9 ай бұрын
I did what you instructed. Then I held/rested a tape measure on the swingarm (not quite in the middle of the chain) rested the chain on the tape measure, moved the chain up being very careful that the tape didn't move and it gave the same measurement!!! ?
@ReggieChump9 ай бұрын
I don't understand all this faffing... Like I said, used the method shown on here and it gave the same measurement as simply holding the tape on the chain and moving it up (whilst keeping an eye on the top of the chain - Dave Moss). Had my bike for 17 years and rode it through every Winter.... The aforementioned has got me this far. I've scraped ice off my seat before leaving my friends once. "England'istan" (Essex) Winters.
@FabMotorbikes9 ай бұрын
Sounds like you’re doing fine. 👍
@Viiola246 ай бұрын
Can you push back somehow the right side? If you tighten it too far? Aligning I mean.
@FabMotorbikes6 ай бұрын
The screw driver in the chain technique will do both sides 👍
@mikefule Жыл бұрын
Good video. I have had 2 belt drive BMWs and am on my second shaft drive Guzzi, and it's a long time since I adjusted a motorcycle chain. Just starting to think of replacing the Guzzi with something more mainstream and I need to overcome those distant memories of spannering and swearing in a cold car park to get the chain tension right. I had a chain snap once when I was an hour or two from home.
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Great collection of bikes you have there! I have to say… there is a part of me that looks forward to the day when I’m done with chain drive. They’re so messy and never truly last, even with the best maintenance. However they’re really efficient and the breadth of bikes out there with them gives you plenty of choice!
@mikefule Жыл бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes Not a collection: a sequence, one at a time.
@kougerat5388 Жыл бұрын
Had to laugh when I read that. Iv'e had a shafty since 92 ! When your video popped up I thought this will be interesting it's been a while since I had to do this. Glad I did though I learned a couple of top tips from ya👍 Great video Mr F nicely done.
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
@kougerat5388 thank you! Lol . I completely get the appeal of shaft drives. None of this faff. 😂
@EvgeniX.9 ай бұрын
what about the opposite side of the wheel? should adjust both to keep it centered..
@FabMotorbikes9 ай бұрын
As long as you check check ch deck it’s correct… adjusting both at once or individually is fine.
@richardfrantz95392 жыл бұрын
I feel that by not insuring there is no slack in the upper run of chain ( by having the bike in gear and rotating the wheel to tighten the top run) you induce error in your lower run measurement.
@snakerstran9101 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, I have never heard of top slack being isolated from total slack. Unless the manual specifically says otherwise, I would include all slack for tension adjustment. That will tie in with searching for tight and lose spots as mentioned.
@jridenour31 Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. He's measuring slack wrong and everybody is buying into it.
@mkidd19872 жыл бұрын
Brilliant helpful video. Just one question (and probably a stupid one) - but when you put the spanner in the sprocket, how do you get it back out again without moving the wheel backward and hence undoing the tightening you've just done with it? DO you just keep rolling the wheel until it comes out?
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Once everything is done you can simply roll the wheel back the other way and the spanner will fall out. 👍
@hugopnabais5 ай бұрын
Great video, very detailed and objective at the same time! Thank you, I'll try this myself for the first time this weekend. What is the torque on the axel nut?
@FabMotorbikes5 ай бұрын
It’ll be depending on your bike. It should be available online somewhere or in your service manual
@hugopnabais5 ай бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes Yes I know, but I also have a fazer 600 S2, as you do, so I was asking what you use 😜
@FabMotorbikes5 ай бұрын
@hugopnabais ah apologies. To be honest I have never used a torque wrench on anything. Bad practice but have all been okay
@hugopnabais5 ай бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes thanks, as I have a torque wrench I will try to find it.
@breakz187 Жыл бұрын
Quick, not fat, solid video! Well done!
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@littlereptilian7580 Жыл бұрын
So only loosen the adjuster at the sprocket side first? And the other one stays tight?
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Good point! Loosen both. But it’s okay to adjust one at a time. They is just quadruple check the slack and the alignment continuously and once again when you’ve finished
@Grainsauce Жыл бұрын
Simple, Short & Straight to the point
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@Twed Жыл бұрын
Do bear in mind though most bikes can be way out for wheel alignment even if you have them symmetrically set on both sides. It’s best to get this checked by a specialist who can correct front and rear alignment. Having had mine done, I found out that to be completely straight the left adjuster was set to 5 marks and right was around 6 marks. Crazy. Great video by the way 👍
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Great points. Thank you 👍
@멋찐인생이다 Жыл бұрын
Wow! that's a great chain adjustment. Thank you for letting me learn this maintenance. You're handsome!~
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
I appreciate all you say 👍
@snorman1911 Жыл бұрын
Is chain slack measured perpendicular to the chain, or to the floor?
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
To the chain. But the difference is minimal. But in the name of accuracy, perpendicular to the chain is best
@stewartknight7464 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you to find tight spot in chain if there is one, I disagree how to check tension, you need to pull down then up and take slack out of top of chain, or you be doubling up on your total slack, as priviously mentioned in other comments
@sekaf41258 ай бұрын
I have a 2001 FZ1. Love it. In your opinion what is the new tires I should upgrade to? Thanks for the video!!!
@FabMotorbikes8 ай бұрын
I’ve always bought ‘Michelin pilot road’. I believe the series is up to its 4th version. They are great for real world riding (oppose to driving like you are on a track all the time). The rubber is harder in the centre of the tyre and softer on the edge where you need the grip
@sekaf41258 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Boudi-xy9by2 жыл бұрын
To my understanding the upper part of the chain has to be tight, so you have to push it has hard you can because the slag is only measured on the lower side.
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
I have learned a slightly loser chain is better than over tight. (Crank shaft bearings can be ruined). Also remember that, tension levels are immense and hard to replicate by hand. A margin for error is important. Thanks for watching and your interesting comment. Appreciate it 😊
@nickyborrisino2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thought. Most bikes I've worked on have to have the rear wheel OFF the ground with the swingarm hanging, and the slack in the lower portion of chain is measured while upper portion of chain is tight with no slack. Not really sure what he is thinking doing it on the ground with the rear suspension loaded.
@martincooke6230 Жыл бұрын
You are correct.
@martincooke6230 Жыл бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes an over tight chain can affect the gearbox output shaft bearing and seal, not the crankshaft bearings. Top run of chain should have no slack, it's measured at the bottom without some unspecified level of slack at the top.
@OldAndGettingOlder5 ай бұрын
Placing a wrench in the chain to tighten things up is a nice tip. I'll remember this. 👍🏼
@macapheeuk8 ай бұрын
Should the slack should be measured when the bike is on the side stand or the center stand/paddock stand?
@FabMotorbikes8 ай бұрын
It really depends on what your user manual says. Mine says on the centre stand. Please check your user manual. Often you can find a digital user manual online
@kidlatazul6 ай бұрын
Excellent video, clear and to the point. Thank you 👍
@FabMotorbikes6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Glad to be of help
@marcusbuckner69232 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being in depth, and informative. Watching this a long time ago would've saved me a lot of time and money.
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Glad it was useful. The. Only think I forgot to mention was that every bike will differ in regards to whether the chain will be adjust whilst on the side stand , centre stand or on a paddock stand. In my case the measurements are for when the bike is on the centre stand, therefore the slack will be looser.
@johnkenny2957 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, explained a few points other guides missed!! So back out to readjust again tomorrow after wrongly adjusting today! knew something wasn't right but hopefully now i have the right points to do it correctly! So don't want to ride with it too tight again like while back when nearly trashed the gearbox by overtightening!👍🤞
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you . Glad it came it use. Indeed too tight is just as bad as too lose!
@cb17196 ай бұрын
When tightening the main bolt wheel back up at the end, do I need to use a torque wrench or is making sure it’s a fairly tight enough😊
@FabMotorbikes6 ай бұрын
My official response should be “use a torque wrench” . But I have honestly never done so. “Fairly tight” has worked for me
@cb17196 ай бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes thank you yeah I’m going with the tighten it up then give it another half turn method
@paulcowell7588 Жыл бұрын
Absolute perfect sense no crap delivery..keep it up.
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@aussiemotolife3473 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I liked the tyre shunting trick with the screwdriver. Learnt something thanks.
@FabMotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
No worries 👍 glad you found it useful. Thanks for watching .
@mumbai8308 Жыл бұрын
As you Said you need to set chain at the tightest spot of the chain. I have questions Is it normal to have tightest spot of chain and loosen spot of chain ? As now i spec my motorcycle chain and found tightest spot of chain
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Yes there will be both a tightest spot and loosest spot of chain. And the only way to find each is by feel.
@MustadMarine2 жыл бұрын
What about torquing the axel nut?
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend it. However I’ll admit in my 14 years of riding I have not torqued it down to specification once
@rioadithia1374 Жыл бұрын
Hi Fabian, a question from a rookie here, please. I used to have a bike with a different chain adjuster on your fz (I know it will also do the same job of course) base on my experience, after I got the perfect adjustment on my chain tension when I'm tightening the axel, the chain becomes tighter (I'm not using torque wrench) but it's not that tight, It just when I'm tightened up a bit from loose, overtime it keeps tighten up till I felt the lock nut is tight enough. And also, how do we determine if the tire alignment is correct? I used to look from the back of my bike and spin the wheel, also looking up the chain if it was straight enough to the front gear. Would love to hear another opinion and discuss it with a rider like you who used to adjust your chain by yourself. Many thanks
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Hi Rio , they way to keep your axle still whilst tightening it up is to do my trick with the spanner in the chain at the same time as tightening everything up. All the hardware in the adjusters will be push and held up against each other in the opposite direction to which you are tightening up. Hence eliminating the chance of the axle moving back. In regards to rear wheel alignment I’ve found using the notches on the swing arm just fine. Front wheel alignment is more difficult and will probably require a whole video 🤔
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Hi Rio , they way to keep your axle still whilst tightening it up is to do my trick with the spanner in the chain at the same time as tightening everything up. All the hardware in the adjusters will be push and held up against each other in the opposite direction to which you are tightening up. Hence eliminating the chance of the axle moving back. In regards to rear wheel alignment I’ve found using the notches on the swing arm just fine. Front wheel alignment is more difficult and will probably require a whole video 🤔
@rioadithia1374 Жыл бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes Thanks for the tips Fabian. Been trying to adjust my bike's chain over the last couple weeks. Still practicing to master this skill. Many thanks for the tutorial too
@rioadithia1374 Жыл бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes thanks Fabian, I've been practicing and adjusting my own chain now, I've been so worried after it but I keep looking you hack and seems working perfect! I keep working on this skill anyway. Thanks for the pro tips, very useful 😊
@ginoasci7 ай бұрын
Hopefully you can answer this…. My motorcycle only has 2000 miles on it, but I had a tiny oil leak. It goes into the shop running great, but it comes out with the oil leak fixed but now it’s knocking. Not bad but enough to notice it. What could they have possibly done to cause this knocking ? They also did the second service that included an oil change. They claim they did not make any valve’s adjustments. I hate that it’s making this kind of noise when it’s just broken in.
@FabMotorbikes6 ай бұрын
Can you tell me where the knocking is coming g form exactly?
@ginoasci6 ай бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes : if I’m close to the engine with my ears it sounds like it’s deep inside. Hard to tell if it’s top or bottom end. It doesn’t sound like valves because it’s not a ting sound (high pitch) but more of a two very solid metals hitting each other. (Low tone knock) It does not seem to be coming from the transmission. I can hear the low tone knock from both cylinders. As if it’s deep inside and radiating out. It’s a 2022 Triumph Scrambler 1200xc. Same engine they used in 90% of their bikes. There was an older triumph with 8000 miles at a gas station and he started it, and I did not hear that sound. I’ve watch just about all the video on KZbin BEFORE purchasing this bike and ZERO people complained about the engine. It’s a great engine. This starts 35 seconds after I start the engine, and almost goes away but not quite two minutes into warm up. So it’s not instantaneous, and it doesn’t go completely away because I can hear it while riding. Specifically in forth gear and just cruising, say fourth mph. Most people wouldn’t hear it, but I studied the sounds from day one because the exhaust is stock and not loud, and I don’t ride with music, so I listen to everything this bike does. This engine did not knock. There’s also a clunk coming from the swing-arm over a hard bump, which may be the chain, but this isn’t my problem. If during the service the mechanic did not make any adjustment during the second service, then it might be the low grade fuel as you suggested. I did find that this engine runs fine on 93 octane but does not like to start on 93 octane. I keeps turning over but eventually starts. It starts and runs great on 87 octane. So I go with the 87. Location of noise is solid, deep, low tone, heard from both sides. Although could very well be at the piston. And thanks again.
@FabMotorbikes6 ай бұрын
@@ginoasci I have seen a similar thing in the past. It was a cbf250. The bike was almost brand new but it had a knocking because the wrong type of oil was used and there was not enough. This might be worth checking as a first port of call that won’t cost you much.
@ginoasci6 ай бұрын
@@FabMotorbikes : my engine has too much oil. I syphoned the gas out and filled the tank with fresh gas, then rode it for two days. so that wasn’t it. Is it possible that the engine mapping from the factory is corrupt or at least enough to cause a knocking???
@okjosh Жыл бұрын
If the tire isn’t on the same measurement ticks on both sides (left side is 5 and right is 4) would that be a reason that it feels like the rear tire is being pulled to the right? I had new tires put on recently and its felt off since.
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Yes definitely would feel a bit off . Good on you for checking 👍
@stfu6397 Жыл бұрын
Such a good, straight to the point tutorial
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@hampuspettersson5388 Жыл бұрын
on almost all bikes i have had when you tighten the axle nut the chain will tention it self a bit. should i go with that messurement after the axle is tightend?
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
I have found this too. But worth measuring up again once everything is tightened up. It’s quite a repetitive process to get it right. But I feel it’s worth it. Thanks for watching
@jackt7542 Жыл бұрын
One thing id like to point out is you adjusted one side to the correct mesurment locked it all off then had to adjust other side of wheel back witch then would have put more tension on the chain leading to you doing the chain to tight again you need to take both sides back at the same time to get correct measurements on the chain
@stephenspiteri_zunkus9 ай бұрын
My way of having equal distance on both sides of the swingarm is to paint one side of the adjuster bolts. The I simply count the number of turns of each nut and ensure that they are equal. Simple but effective way to have the wheel well and truly aligned. I'm amazed no-one ever thought of this before.
@FabMotorbikes9 ай бұрын
Sounds great! Might try . Thanks for watching
@abitofaviation2 жыл бұрын
Do you screw the big locking nut by hand or with 100NM precise? Any difference?
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
Overall, I have to recommend you screw down to the precise torque settings… although I have to admit I have never done this once in 14 years of riding and not had any problems
@Surpriseify7 ай бұрын
Forgot to loosen the adjuster on the other side of the bike, before doing the chain adjustment, any reason for this?
@FabMotorbikes7 ай бұрын
Might have got lost in the edit. But you can do one side at a time or both incrementally. The key is to check, check and check your work. The result is the most important thing
@trevedmunds2 жыл бұрын
For the Versys 650 and the SV 650 the calibration marks meant for alignment are notorious for being off, hence chain alignment tools. Any thoughts on that? Would be awesome if you included a fail-safe to confirm proper chain alignment?
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
I guess I’ve been lucky with my bikes (Suzuki van van, sv1000, gs500 and Yamaha fazer Fz6) all alignment marking have been very good. The best suggestion I’ve received so far is a laser tool that sticks via a magnet to the rear sprocket. The laser points down the chain and it is clear to see if it is straight or not.
@mr37482 жыл бұрын
I far as I know they are fine to use unless the bike has been in an accident or been rear ended.
@FabMotorbikes2 жыл бұрын
This makes sense.
@xpersix9222 Жыл бұрын
Not got a stand at moment can you adjust chain without a stand has I seen the local garage do it to mine
@FabMotorbikes Жыл бұрын
Yes you can it’s a bit cumbersome as rather than rotating the wheel by hand you’ll have to push the bike backwards and forwards. With both of the wheels in the ground the chain will naturally be tighter, but still be sure to check it’s not over tight. As always it’s a process of checking And re-checking everything over and over until it’s perfect
@philgrayser2 жыл бұрын
Great video...putting the screwdriver into the chain to push wheel back in is the idea of the year 👍 👌