CHALK OUTLINES | DOCTOR Reacts

Hi everyone! My name is Anna and I'm a neurologist who enjoys making videos about the brain and medicine. I’m also passionate about music and how it affects our lives and the brain. Join me today while I listen to "Chalk Outlines" by the very talented artists @RenMakesMusicRen and @chinchilla_music.
Check out more of their music here: / @renmakesmusic
/ @chinchilla_music
References:
www.nature.com/articles/s4138...
www.nature.com/articles/nri.2...
Link to ‘The Anatomy of Anxiety: Understanding and Overcoming the Body's Fear Response’ by Dr Ellen Vora:
ellenvora.com/book/

[@chinchilla_music]

Wow thank you so much for this reaction and all the nice words ❤️ so insightful and such an interesting watch to hear everything from a doctors perspective - appreciate you!

[@michaeln3044]

Oh good you are making the comment rounds too. Your voice is incredible and I’ve loved all the content I’ve found so far. Any more Ren collabs planned?

[@kurtkelly6436]

The entire world needs a new album of you and Ren live! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@salishseamermaid]

I love seeing artists who connect with reactors like this. You have a fantastic voice and presence, and I look forward to anything you do next. ❤️

[@davidbirchall832]

You have gained a fan here. I've been extremely impressed, everytime I've checked out a 'new to me' performance. Love and Respect 👊

[@moustachiomousmousmoosedem6625]

Loving both the songs you've released with Ren and now enjoying all your solo work on your own channel. Subscribed to you within 30 seconds of hearing this for the first time

[@girlfriendaudioasmr108]

I loved you take on "im scared of being okay" but from my perspective as someone who struggled a lot with it. it means for me that I've been living in chaos, pain, hurt, feeling low, stressed, etc. that when im "happy" it literally feels foreign to my body.I was scared of this happiness not because I think im gonna lose it but because it felt uncomfortable. when you get use to living in chaos and in fight or flight mode all the time having a moment of peace just feels foreign. Like they said its a big change and because you are comfortable in the chaos you don't want it to change. Thats how people really get stuck in that loop of negative emotions.

[@maryogan215]

It became your normal…

[@graceydez6199]

Thanks for posting this. I agree. 😊❤

[@Libbydoh]

I have been here. I allow myself to lean in, and so far, the universe has accepted me. Hugs.

[@darthghengis]

Man up

[@dawn921]

I wish you were my doctor. I'm a nurse of 25 years, disabled, and watched our medical system fail. Ty for listening to Ren, for he puts into words what most of us can't. ❤

[@1tommymulligan]

Ren and Chinchilla also do another masterpiece about suicide awareness called How to be Me (live) the vocals and emotion are second to none.

[@DaisyKmua]

It's hauntingly beautiful

[@robertlenzo3303]

Their eye contact throughout truly moves the needle on making you feel what they feel. I noticed you looked away during the last part.... Pretty emotional scene. Hits me every time!

[@simplysimon9868]

Ren and Chinchilla - How to be me ( live ) is another great track. Their voices are so good together. Chinchilla has her own channel and opened for Stings last tour. Kind of ironic as one of Rens favourite bands growing up was The Police. Other Ren reactions Diazepam, The Money Game parts 1 and 2 are great tracks.

[@salishseamermaid]

I second this. How To Be Me is an amazing song on many levels.

[@CasperLD]

I was totally numb on medication for an anxiety disorder. Walking around in a floating chalk outline is a perfect way to say how I felt. I had to stop taking them. Like the end of Hi Ren, I stopped thinking of my anxiety as something I had to win against. It is a part of me. It'll always be there in various degrees of power. I've learned to dance with it because it's way better than feeling nothing.

[@chorleycc]

I hear you. I feel like I am living exactly what you describe. Was run over by a car 2 years ago. Prescribed pain killers and the rest is a similar story. Well done on stopping, you should be really proud of yourself. I really hope I can one day.

[@scabthecat]

I was prescribed SSRI's for anxiety disorder. The numb was too much. I ended up micro-dosing betablockers when I felt bad. This helped in a similar manner to CBT by numbing the usual trigger points. No medical advice, we're all different, this is just me.

[@k_facts_truth_no_bs_AMERICAN]

🙏🙏Self care Best wishes

[@gwynethzen77]

Thank you for sharing this. I have started dropping down off my anxiety meds because of this song with the aim to stop completely. Thank you for sharing so I know it can be done. ❤

[@peteonretreat2023]

The power of Ren… 2nd line “I hope I’m someone else in the morning” and my eyes begin to water. Was it that line or because I have a feeling where he’s going to take us with another incredible song. First time I’ve heard this track.

[@deborahlester4018]

Maybe both. I think a lot of us have hoped to be someone else in the morning. Also, you know he's taking you somewhere...

[@christyheffernan1248]

That Line where resonate forever

[@startingfingerstyle]

Stuck in the Renosphere for about a month now and finding pretty much all of his stuff very compelling. This one interested me greatly. Twice in my adult life I've suffered badly with depression. Spent quite a while on Sertraline. Certainly, within a week or two of starting I found myself less worried, less sad. I didn't 'feel' the bad stuff. As time went on, though, I began to realise that I didn't 'feel' the good stuff, either! Nothing upset me, but nothing excited me, either. I was rather numb, I suppose. I weaned myself off the stuff over time and in the years since, when I've been well, I've come to realise that those lows and highs combined are important parts of being human.

[@lizrobertson2704]

Exactly my response...no more lows and no more highs. I realised after a while that I had no more emotions, no joy no sadness; nothing. Now I take the lows and the highs. I've learned to recognise my responses to stressful situations and toxic individuals. The medication gave me the breathing space I needed but in the end I'm better standing on my own two feet.

[@njblanco10]

Well said

[@lokidecat]

The chalk outline to me (how I interpreted it) is that feeling of how you already feel dead. Like a social crime scene.

[@wishiwerewitty5627]

I love your reactions and incredible insight from a medical professional's perspective. As a law enforcement officer who has had many encounters with individuals suffering from differing forms of psychosis, your empathetic and knowledgeable analysis, I believe, can help many of us better understand what people suffering with these conditions often face and challenges they must overcome. Obviously, this is true of Ren's music, also. Thank you!

[@kimberlymiller3262]

What a wonderful and useful commentary. As you may know, Ren was misdiagnosed for years, treated for psychosis when he had actually been unwittingly bitten by a tick and was suffering from Lyme disease, the ravages of which has him enduring treatments including stem cell therapy and surgeries of various types in efforts to abate this horrible condition. He is both brave and gifted. Will be subscribing today, and wish you well.

[@TheSkootenbeeten]

I was on sertraline to help with social anxiety for a few years. In the first few days of taking it, I noticed I had a strange reaction to sound and my surroundings in general - I would experience what I could only describe as "an electrical buzz within my head" and when I saw the light flicker in the video with the sound of an electrical buzz, it immediately brought me back to it. Once sertraline became a daily intake and my system reached a 'balance' with it, the electrical buzzes stopped and I found the tremendous freedom of not caring so much. I didn't worry about anything and that was incredibly freeing after living my entire life with such a strong focus on the potential for bad things to occur in any situation - especially when in public and large gatherings of people. It wasn't long however before that feeling of not caring or worrying felt more like simply not feeling whatsoever. I felt like an empty version of myself. Less empathetic, less creative, less energetic, less, less, less... like a chalk outline. My doctor, on a follow-up appointment, asked me if I'd noticed any side effects from taking sertraline. So I explained that I was getting the regular electical buzz sensation - triggered all the more with sudden noises, and the doctor said, "Oh,... I've never heard of that happening before." I mentioned that it also happened if I skipped a day or two of taking the tablet. (I know, don't skip taking a pill if you 'should' take it every day but life sometimes got in the way. Work schedules etc) The doctor simply pushed on to talk about something else and never touched on it again. I felt purposefully ignored. Sorry, that was a really long-winded way of saying; I love this song because I cannot help feeling a deep connection to it. Your reaction and discussion of key points were amazing. Thank you.

[@andreasson]

Thank you for referring to the refutation of the seratonine hypothesis, this is something we need to talk about a lot more. / Daniel, clinical psychologist

[@patriciaobrien6600]

Yes! This was news to me and very helpful ❤

[@csmkorn1]

“How to Be Me” (live) is right up there with Chalk Outlines, if not arguably even better. It’s another collaboration with Chinchilla, and their emotion and harmonies are on another level.

[@danielrobinson-df8hg]

It's above average beautiful because of the artists however lyrically and depth in originality it's mediocre in comparison to chalk outlines. And then you hear the last sentence and BOOM magical. Ren can't do wrong. Salute General. Love Ren INSPIRATIONAL

[@narfarlang]

Love your professional opinion and compassion for people who need professional help. Thank you again for your compassion you are obviously a very very great Doctor. Thank you.

[@kennysoriginalmusicchannel5916]

Great reaction! I've been on pyciactric meds since I was 17. I'm 45 now. I struggle with bi-polar, anxiety and in the past I've delt with depression. Doing better these days. But yeah, it's a process.

[@e55ex36]

My wife suffered from debilitating medical anxiety for the first 10 years of our marriage. She wouldn’t take pills due to the anxiety. She believed any new mark, slight pain , weird feeling was cancer or some other disease It literally took over her life. She finally accepted she spent so long worrying about dying she wasn’t living. Sertraline changed her life and all of ours almost over night. There’s obviously a lot of issues with medication but I firmly believe without the sertraline my wife would have had a mental break by now.

[@martingilluk1]

Stopped by as a recent subscriber. Really grounded and helpful words. You make Ren’s work have such a beneficial impact. Keep up the generosity and shared knowledge. You clearly care to see your skills make a difference to humanity. (R’s dad, Martin)

[@vixendixon6943]

Ren's Dad, Martin. ❤❤❤

[@bojnebojnebojne]

As someone who has lived with severe depression for 35 years by now i can only say that the numbness is what made me feel what they describe in this song. I literally felt like i was a walking corpse, neither alive nor dead. It is better to feel the pain and misery and try to work through it in my experience, but obviously this is not an option for many people. And who knows for how long people can endure, we are only human and we can only take so much. I think REN is the most poetic storyteller of the modern era, he has an uncanny ability to really capture emotion and put it into words like no other. The acapella segment in this song really cuts right into my soul. It's so raw and the way they look straight into each others eyes it really oozes of complete understanding of what that emotion they are expressing feels like. It's one thing understanding the surface level of it, but it's a whole other thing to really really understand.

[@SparksofHell]

In a way, makes me think of a movie, Voices, with Ryan Reynolds. It's been a long while since I watched it, but I remember liking how the differences between his feelings when medicated and not were contrasted against his struggle with wanting to be 'normal'.

[@user-ur7kz4wu6z]

Her voice is stunning , so much expression, they compliment each other so well I hope they do more together .

[@MikeLyons2011]

"Hollowed Out" is how I always described it but "chalk outline" is more poetic and probably more accurate. I felt like a shell of myself.

[@kennycab3374]

The sound of that chair draws you in for the rest of the song. Amazing

[@jamesbaker704]

"I'm scared of being ok because all things change" makes me cry every time I here it. That's me 😢

[@jukeboxdave6026]

Hi my friend fantastic reaction and very informative many thanks love and respect from the UK - it's the same in the UK your doctor is only allowed to give you 5 to 10 minutes then you are out of the door many thanks love and respect from the UK 👍👍👍👍👍👍🌟😀😀 amazing channel 👍

[@SuzanneDeniseB]

The 1st time I heard this I cried and couldn't stop. It makes me incredibly sad to know im not alone... New sub btw 💙I wouldnt wish it on anyone.

[@claytononcars]

I love Dr. Gabor Matè's take on SSRI treatment. He explains that it's like saying someone who has social anxiety, who finds that after 4 stiff drinks they lose their inhibitions... you wouldn't say the cure for social anxiety is alcohol. Saying that I do believe people are being saved by them daily. Great reaction!

[@nathandts3401]

Meds help people to cope but the only fixes are to resolve what depresses you or change how you think about it. The unfortunate thing is that a lot of people's problems aren't necessarily happening to them. Meds are pretty much necessary at that point because there's very little we can all do about homelessness, poverty, climate change, racism, war, etc.

[@ianshirreffs5604]

Hello. Thank you for the song and your reaction to it. First time hearing this.

[@vornamenachname9905]

For me it's hard to live with myself. Ren's music and especially this song and the reactions to it help me a lot at the moment. Compared to how people like Ren (and possibly Chinchilla) suffer my life and my mind are bliss. It's still hard though

[@bethosbornefischer3315]

Don't compare yourself to anyone else. That voice if toxic positivity is part of what is wrong with our system because it makes us feel separate. Your battles deserve as much recognition as anyone else's, and you aren't alone. Finding and honoring our connections--even (especially?) the hard ones--to each other are the most revolutionary things we can do.

[@IratePuffin]

If you’ve never heard of NF, you should check out his songs too. He raps and sings a lot about his mental health struggles and a lot of people has said it’s helped them. I’ve seen many people in comments saying that NF saved their lives. Music is powerful and above all, it shows you that you’re not alone.

[@nevercrashed]

Songs like this and Hi Ren have helped me explain how I am feeling to people around me when I cant express it with out breaking down.Ive just moved from Mirtazapine after experiencing long periods of dizziness and unsteadyness on my feet and having mild hallucinations to Sertraline to see if I'm better on that. Feeling numb has lost me friends and relationships as I don't know how to explain it to them and they don't understand how I'm feeling. Ive been waiting 8 months after asking for much need help, to see a therapist to help me with passed trauma but it keeps getting pushed back. All I seem to get as help is take your meds and do your box breathing and told to wait my turn.

[@patrickblack398]

Been waiting for this reaction Doc! Thanks! I listen to a lot of reactors that have different perspectives, and yours is one I real find value in.

[@combogalis]

The "scared of being okay cause all things change" line hits me deeply as someone who is currently doing "okay" compared to normal. It's rare to feel this good, and I am afraid it will go away. I know it will. And the sense of loss I feel when that happens will be so strong that part of me will wish that I had never felt like this to begin with. Because it always comes with dashed hopes that maybe this time it will last.

[@inuchan74]

So far this was my favorite reaction to this video! As a teen my husband was on meds that made him feel like this so he stopped taking them and was very resistant to trying again as an adult. We found a doctor who worked with him to find the right medication and dose for him and it was such a different experience. Literally changed our lives. I think a lot of people get turned off to meds because of this, just like he did, because they're afraid or think all medications will cause those side effects. I've always felt like if your meds make you feel this way then they aren't the right ones for you and it's worth finding a doctor who can take the time to find something that works for you.

[@Old_Mans_Sky]

I love the additional layers you bring to the context of such an important subject.

[@frankshannon340]

Love the perspective you bring. good job.

[@TallinnCity2410]

An absolute masterpiece. Regarding books about anxiety, stress and healing, Dr. Gabor Mate is my all time favourite.

[@bbdrgn]

I love that youtube has added the thing that says if people are actually a doctor!

[@bwreese01]

I love your content. It’s so helpful. You are beautiful and amazing!

[@philk9227]

Thoughtful reaction Anna, thank you

[@mldkenny]

Such harmony in their voices, just beautiful. Really enjoyed listening to your professional approach.

[@SylviaPlathInTheETHER4933]

I love all of your content... like Ren, I am going through a similar struggle currently with my physical and mental health and am having a hard time getting answers as to what is going on... finally after many attempts i have found a Dr. that is at least listening and helping me get some testing done, so, I have hope for the first time in years. THANK YOU so much for your videos... side note: I get goosebumps/hairs raising on my arms with this song as well ( and many others ♡)

[@Blend-24]

When they are talking about burying themselves and drawing a chalk outlines as in a murder victim. One of my favorite songs now

[@drs936]

Beautiful song by 2 beautiful musicians followed by a beautiful reaction from a beautiful Neuro Doctor!!

[@colemoles7517]

I don’t feel essentially ‘scared of feeling okay’ I want for it, however when I do feel happy I always have this impending thought that sits in my brain that questions why should I be feeling this happy, there must be something wrong and then my brain proceeds to think about anything negative in my life. I guess I have this because I haven’t felt happy for most of the time I have been alive, that subconsciously I’m used to feeling unhappy, that being happy feels good but also so alien at the same time.

[@erichburger1935]

One of the wonderful benefits of Ren’s music has been that through his life story and his elegant lyrics and the depictions of his experience. He inspires both the mental health professionals and the average person into a discussion. And I feel in a much safer way than I have ever experienced before. Simply by giving both sides a point of reference. I am truly enjoying all that Ren, Chinchilla, and the rest of his collaborators are contributing to the world right now. There are so many layers to everything he’s doing, and all of them are so badly needed right now.

[@AndrewinAus]

Anna, I am glad that you had an opportunity to listen to this particular song by Ren & Chinchilla. I really enjoyed your reaction here. It satisfies both sides of me I think, seeing peoples emotional response to music that I have really bonded with since discovering Ren, and especially the music he has written related to his personal struggles and journey. But also the medical science nerd side of me with snippets of discussions on psychological concepts and neuroscience especially biochemistry and how that contributes to how we tick. Looking forward to exploring your other previous video's and whatever is to come in the future.

[@seanplummer8546]

Great song! Great reaction! Thx

[@MerlinZuni]

I love your insights

[@roystevenson9632]

Simply next level outstanding!

[@jxclarke7774]

I love your ren reactions .. you wxplain things so well thank u

[@davideastham]

Great reaction and insight. I really appreciate it.

[@PeteFindsObscureStuff]

What a great breakdown of the music AND the message too.

[@monkleyt]

Thank you for one of the best and most informative reactions I've seen

[@johnuxtv]

Great video. It's so nice hearing your take on the lyrics! I'm glad you touched on how hard it is to navigate the healthcare system in the US currently. I've been trying for 6+ months now to get in with any neurologist anywhere after 2 strokes and MRI's showing little bits of my brain dying as time goes on. Constant headaches, crowding, and increased difficulty thinking, speaking, or surviving a day, all met by offices who never answer a phone, ignore referrals, and just seem to not care if people live or die.

[@caupain66]

WOW! Just thank you; so much for creating this super valuable channel!! THANK YOU!

[@foyfighterful]

Loved this.

[@cbskean]

In the very beginning, there is a low mumble of voices & sounds. It's not until he walks through the flickering lights, they stop... Definitely some symbolism there. Could be the voices in his head, and they end when he plugs into his art. The flickering could represent that "switch"

[@jjcoetzer4056]

I know the feeling, how scary it can be, jumping between medication to see what works, during this stage. it has been difficult, with re-lapse and more meds, this song speaks more to me than anything

[@davidmcintyre6444]

Anna, thank you so much for your reactions, I love your insights and compassion, Oh that all practionners and professionals shared your orientation. Inspiring.

[@mattohara2722]

This is the 3rd reaction I’ve watched (in a row) and you reacting to ren is amazing to mei absolutely love him (the other ones I watched was NF) I absolutely love this song and ren has so many amazing songs

[@deejayturtle]

Harry Mack fan here. Obviously also a fan of Ren and Chinchilla. Also a sub of yours. As always love the break down from your professional POV.

[@kasperorganics-organiccott6881]

Every day that I feel positive and upbeat I get depressed again because "all things change" in other words I know that good feeling won't last. That's how I interpret those lyrics. I also have chronic pain and that can really mess with your head.

[@Bhodisatvas]

I absolutely love the 'Don't cry there's a pill for everything' line, it speaks volumes about the pharmaceutical industry focusing on profit rather than cure.

[@craigwilson8228]

I kind of see the flickering lights and the chair noise opening almost like a hypnotist about to take over your mind.

[@JeremyEllwood]

So much power. I love when Ren and Chinchilla partner up. It's so... insanely powerful.

[@JohnScott-Ashtree]

Thank you for this reaction. I was mistakenly prescribed a large dose of antidepressants that in the US and Australia would have been an emergency short term dose, but I'm in the UK and was on them for nearly five years of being a 'chalk outline.' Thank God for the sensible doctor who got me off them over 20 years ago, and I've been fine since.

[@lynette.]

Always play How to be me(live) straight after this so hauntingly beautiful.

[@troytucker3467]

I absolutely love you mate, look at this, it's new years. Having a glass of wine and listening to your reaction. Thank you appreciate you.

[@shaundisch2020]

I found that the way I look at things creates or erases stress for me. Acceptance makes everything bearable and gives me inner peace.

[@tandyhard8286]

Thank you so much for your reaction to this song. It was very helpful to hear your comments regarding the ssri's. I feel the same way as your friend and chose to taper off the ssri for the exact reasons you state. The underlining issue needs to be addressed. Thank you for the book recommendation. I truly believe that for me, anxiety triggers so much biological damage to the body. Addressing the root causes are so much more important than just a quick fix. Again, thank you so much for this one. 🥰🙏🏽❤️

[@Spunky62]

My FAVORITE song WITHOUT a doubt! Glad I found your channel! Subbed 🙋‍♀️✌️🫶🔥🎶

[@colt45lmer]

It's truly one of the worst feelings ever to be sacred of being ok. Cause when everything is going to well shit is usually about to hit the fan and the better it is the worse its going to be....

[@sch7194]

Ren and Chinchilla cant miss....love the passion 🔥🙏🔥

[@morrisjarrod]

Thank you - your comments on loosing trust in doctors really resonates; I enjoy your insights and approach to your profession

[@dougoneill7266]

I very much enjoyed your reaction and accompanying tidbits about the pro's and con's of some medication.

[@AdamK985]

Great video and love the insight that you give. Sadly misdiagnoses and wrong medications can cause more issues than the ones you started with. Having been a guinea pig for the 'lets try this' system has caused a major lack of faith and deeper and harder issues than I ever knew I could have. It makes me happy to see all this coverage and talk about these issues... hopefully the new generations will not have to go through what so many had to.

[@johnblaze024]

I literally felt your goosebumps. ❤🙏🏻

[@sephiranumbra2464]

Best channel on KZbin, hands down. Informational, genuine, show's vulnerability and passionate. From life experiences, I have always, always avoided doctors due to my own personal fears. Fears that rule my life even today to where I'm completely at their mercy. However, with that being said, you're the only person in medicine I constantly tune in to and listen and feel educated, understood, and most of all, entertained and at home. That says something, lol.

[@aaronhommel4615]

I have seriously gotten more insight and reassurance from the two reactions I have seen then in 6 years of treatment for a myriad of treatment resistant diagnosis's. Thank you sincerely and please know that you are making a difference.

[@jennymeyers1890]

Amen for debunking the serotonin theory! IMO, chronic depression and chronic anxiety is a result of inflammation. Oh, and this song is friggin amazing! Great reaction.

[@Angivel]

Sertraline was the first medication I was put on. People asked me if I felt better and my answer was always "I feel less bad..but I feel less good also" I felt like I just "lost" myself. Things that normally would make me cry didn't and the same went for things that would normally make me smile or laugh. I was just on "auto pilot" and didn't feel much of anything but emptiness. That's my experience with it at least.

[@drywall8717]

Wow.... this is how Ren's music is starting to male a change. Looking forward to hanging out in the future. Hitting the buttons. Lovepeace

[@momishka7]

I subscribed to you purely because you understand how broken the system is. I am 53 and have never had any kind of help for my trauma so it’s good to see that it might be changing in the future for others, Ren as my therapist now. ;) The hardest line in the song for me is “I’m scared of being OK because all things change”

[@samroberts9068]

Thank you...this is the most succinct analysis of this song I've seen. To me it is about being a person who relies on anti depressants ( such a beautiful day, take it just in case, take it just in case) and how that can (but not always) turn you into an outline of your former self. I've been there. X

[@squidzion365]

Dealing with chronic pain for many years from a broken neck, (diving into a lake) have been through a lot. Music is one way I can relax. I have been listening to Ren for a bit. Songs that do the thinking for you. Enjoyed my first time watching your reaction. Hope to view more of you.

[@aimeekeel]

So happy that the field is really looking more into the mechanisms of these medications, and I’m happy to be involved in that research. My mom had bad bipolar and her only choice for healthcare was the VA. They gave her a pretty high dose of Thorazine with two elementary age children and a toddler at home and no support system. Needless to say, I had to grow up pretty quick. The erratic and abusive aspects of her mental health were managed, but it wasn’t any less damaging. I am glad to see the VA is starting to take mental health more seriously, but they have a very long way to go.

[@pietsnot7002]

Girl, you seem like an honest sound person and prob a good MD 🙏 Stumbled upon you via Hi Ren, thanks for your input 🙏 have a nice day 💚

[@suevick637]

I have been caught up in all things Ren for over 6 months now. In November of 2020, I lost my spouse of over 33 years to cancer. Covid delayed any chance of an earlier diagnosis. I have been alone and quite depressed since then. I was talked into trying an antidepressant early on. Prozac was prescribed. I can not exactly explain why, but I had to give it up after a couple months. Maybe, like you said, I needed a clearer mind to process what had happened to move through it. I am still processing how, after being married for over 33 years, to the right person, he passed away less than 2 months after being diagnosed. Ren's music has helped me more than any medication could. Some people do not understand this. Maybe it is because I am a left handed, right brain thinker. Maybe because I am an artist. Either way, I thank Ren and all those who try to unravel his music as I continue to process. Thank you ❣️

[@jeffb8562]

Yeah. I took one of these. It got rid of the bad feelings. It also got rid of all the joy that you feel when you have a good feeling. These medications are over prescribed and a plague on society. I was prescribed Paxil years ago after one appointment with a doctor with no psychiatric experience. I was also prescribed Xanax by a doctor with no psychiatric background. He told me, this isn’t going to fix your problem but it will help you when you can’t deal with life. He made sure I saw a proper doctor. Best doctor I’ve ever had.

[@dianeemanuel8541]

Great reaction. I really appreciate the information on SSRIs. That will be helpful. Nature 2022???

[@KelseyMarion]

I think for me personally the cherophobia part resonates because I’m always nervous that I’m going to feel “normal” during treatment or taking a medication and the feeling won’t last. A huge aspect of it is a fear of getting better and then regressing. Accepting that healing isn’t linear helps but it’s still incites a trauma response within myself.

[@labyrinth2]

I've learned to keep my Scribd account open so when a book is referenced (as you do) I can quickly save it for reading. Thankyou for your insights

[@Meeckle]

Such beautiful voices!!! I get goosebumps every time I listen to this. I very much relate to SSRI side-effects too. I feel very numb, but they do appear to lessen suicidal ideations. I have brain damage, and PTSD I don't know how they contributes to the depression.

[@kolonelfranz31]

Thanx, about time the ssri versus serotonine contradiction is mentioned and hopefully finally the discussion in science will begin and the medical world starts asking questions about the statistics of long term concequenses and the different theories about their effect on quality of life. i admit, i am not a MD, but in my former occupation i gained some knowledge on neuro transmitters and how to direct them in order to get the results the "patient" needed. (Excuse my poor English, it is not my first or second language) would love to talk further on the subject doc, but it is a pity that this conversation will never be possible. But I love your channel, you've got my respect because youre not just a doc, your goosebumps show you are also a real person. Thank you, I've met way worse people in half a century than you are! You're one of the rare good guys.. 🙏

[@xxenemyxx]

I am impressed! You seem like a smart lady :)

[@RealMattHaney]

So insightful. ❤

[@neurogalmd]

Thanks, Matt! ☺️

[@merklingassoc]

The explanation you gave about your friend and the numbness from the Ssri medication is exactly what happened for me. I started one when my husband of 37 yrs passed away, the numbness mad life tolerable, but as time passed (several yrs) I felt like I wasn't dealing with or fully feeling my emotions. In fact I started having panic attacks because of it. Weaning off those meds was really hard. Not so sure I'd take them again.

[@lunarmoon4596]

So happy that reactors are picking up ren songs & man she has an amazing voice

[@lunarmoon4596]

Thank you for liking my comment it means a lot:)

[@whocares2033]

I'm not sure if Ren and Chinchilla are in a relationship, if there not, they should be! I've gone down the Ren rabbit hole and he's helped me a lot , and through him Ive discovered Chinchilla. I'm close to tears when these two sing together. Just beautiful.

[@dianeshelton9592]

No they shouldn’t, both are very mentally fragile people, they could so easily get to be a in an unhealthy Co dependant relationship and make each other far worse. No both need a stable influence in there lives who can be a port in the storm when they need it. I am not saying to use that person but there are always right fits and wrong fits and these 2 would be a very wrong fit. I trust both are insightful enough to realise it.