Challenging NVIDIA's 4090 FE: Liquid Cooled RTX 4090 Neptune Tear-Down & Review

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@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus Жыл бұрын
Learn about the RTX 4090 FE that this competes with: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGrZdGyEd7FrsNE Learn about the best GPUs of 2022 (so far!): kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6PWhqBoa7h7fas
@robertlawrence9000
@robertlawrence9000 Жыл бұрын
Googling the word "Virtal" it's a drug for "Irritable bowel syndrome" and "Heavy bleeding during periods". Maybe this config is designed for heavy flow? 😂
@ADB-zf5zr
@ADB-zf5zr Жыл бұрын
You need to invest in hair dye, not so much the beard, but why not, but the hair IMHO needs to be done. Saying this as a Man in a similar situation who doesn't dye, but I have watched you for years and watching you go grey hurts, doesn't bother me so much as I lost my hair years ago, and I am not a YT star.
@michaelluster2694
@michaelluster2694 Жыл бұрын
We want buildzoid on this ASAP!
@Pisscan
@Pisscan Жыл бұрын
Why did you partly dismantle, reassemble, then test? Shouldn’t you fully test out of the box, then tear down? 💀
@OIFIIIOIF-VET
@OIFIIIOIF-VET Жыл бұрын
I still have my EVGA 980Ti Hybrid. Love that card. First time I was able to play PUBG at 4K 50 average FPS hahahahahah
@dobromir90
@dobromir90 Жыл бұрын
The GN sub count was 1.6M a week or two ago, 1.7M 2 days ago and 1.8M now. I am so glad they continue to grow the way they do - they deserve it.
@superdbsfan8670
@superdbsfan8670 Жыл бұрын
Steve works so hard for us ❤❤
@EnjoyingChaotics
@EnjoyingChaotics Жыл бұрын
meh.
@kreozello
@kreozello Жыл бұрын
They do deserve to grow!
@locutusvonborg2k3
@locutusvonborg2k3 Жыл бұрын
it feels like not long ago, when they had a few 10k xD
@PDXCustomPCS
@PDXCustomPCS Жыл бұрын
10 years later.... 1 billion subscribers(Dr.Evil Face.)
@Capellix0001
@Capellix0001 Жыл бұрын
THANKS STEVE
@SKHYJINX
@SKHYJINX Жыл бұрын
Back to you Steve.
@mza131313
@mza131313 Жыл бұрын
THANKS STEVE
@marclapin
@marclapin Жыл бұрын
BACK TO YOU STEVE
@GenuineNPC
@GenuineNPC Жыл бұрын
THANKS STEVE
@mechtechpotato4249
@mechtechpotato4249 Жыл бұрын
BACK TO YOU STEVE
@dra6o0n
@dra6o0n Жыл бұрын
A GPU so hot that when liquid cooled, the bios got confused because it assumed it's suppose to be engulfed in flames.
@maegnificant
@maegnificant Жыл бұрын
I dont think there is a single 4090 that gets hot on the market
@Ocastia
@Ocastia Жыл бұрын
@@maegnificant hey my MSI Suprim almost reached 65°C once...
@ImmaSpam__________________Can
@ImmaSpam__________________Can Жыл бұрын
@@Ocastia Jesus Christ, you are playing with the sun there
@Razvann220
@Razvann220 Жыл бұрын
Wow your so funny i laughed 😅
@Octet
@Octet Жыл бұрын
All 4090s run very cool. Coolers on them are built for 600W, so none need to blast their fans to stay really cool (
@waynestorton1875
@waynestorton1875 Жыл бұрын
Great video :) I suppose the benefit of having the push-button BIOS switch on the rear panel is that you don't have to remove the side panel of your case just to switch between BIOS's.
@vlad_8011
@vlad_8011 Жыл бұрын
+ occasionally pushing by mistake when re-seating gpu on motherboard. ;)
@cjm5002
@cjm5002 Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that myself, worst case they just move the switch off that back plate and put it inside v0v. Its a good feature that should be optional on all 3rd party cards imo. Or at least the connector on the pcb like these guys have, can at least add a switch to it without being a master soldering expert.
@vlad_8011
@vlad_8011 Жыл бұрын
@@cjm5002 On the back i would love to see 2 switches - one for LED, on for BIOS. But 2 small switches like we have now would be enough (with PCB behind PCI cover)
@lebelge7168
@lebelge7168 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's a good idea I thought.
@lucasrossiemc
@lucasrossiemc Жыл бұрын
Button on the back sounds nice, better than having to open the case if you want to change the BIOS. I know it shouldn't happen very frequently, but still.
@Slavolko
@Slavolko Жыл бұрын
It's also exposed this way, meaning someone can accidentally push it. Imagine a cat, a kid, or yourself fumbling at the back of the computer. It's probably unlikely for the most part.
@___DRIP___
@___DRIP___ Жыл бұрын
@@SlavolkoThat is so unlikely that it’s not even worth worrying about TBH
@wayge
@wayge Жыл бұрын
​@@Slavolko oh no my cat is gonna make me lose 70mhz on my core clock what will i ever do
@yakacm
@yakacm Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was thinking that, not sure about a cat doing it, but I could imagine if you have to pull the machine out to connect a cable or something you could hit the switch, I don't know if the GPU would crash if you swapped the BIOS while it was on.
@Slavolko
@Slavolko Жыл бұрын
@@yakacm I don't know if it'd crash either. Hopefully not.
@ApfelJohannisbeere
@ApfelJohannisbeere Жыл бұрын
@GN, I like the button on the outside of the case, so one can switch and doesn't have to open the case for switching BIOS.
@DATWagonator
@DATWagonator Жыл бұрын
ngl I liked it too.
@moleman9504
@moleman9504 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a beast of a cooler. Would be awesome to see an all white build thats top teir 4k performance and virtually silent
@notsyzagts7967
@notsyzagts7967 Жыл бұрын
Good luck with the "virtually silent" part lol.
@Dangerman-zg3ui
@Dangerman-zg3ui Жыл бұрын
I wish we saw more 4090s etc with this colour scheme, everything is mostly black or dark grey.
@ledoutofshadow8004
@ledoutofshadow8004 Жыл бұрын
I have an older system with a 1080ti and 8086K, overclocked. Cooled with 2 280mm AIO's. One for cpu and one for gpu, both set to exhaust out of the case, GPU front and CPU top. I supply cold air from the rear of the case. No gpu or cpu heat enters the PC and i get great temps. The radiators/pumps are positioned correctly, and are still running great after more than 5 years. It is a viable option if closed loop cooling is too expensive, which it is here in Australia.
@WTP_DAVE
@WTP_DAVE Жыл бұрын
I think this is the level of cooler needed to charge more then founders, white paintjob aswell as a full block gpu not a hybrid solution which doesn't provide the acoustic benefits
@oceanbytez847
@oceanbytez847 Жыл бұрын
GN is so awesome to both the makers and users of these things. Intentionally holding back the review until it was finally patched and ready is awesome.
@everythingcrypto5577
@everythingcrypto5577 Жыл бұрын
That’s still 30% cheaper than what I paid for my 3090
@AEP8FlyBoy
@AEP8FlyBoy Жыл бұрын
Now that's a SUPRIM oof.
@gamingwithblaise3822
@gamingwithblaise3822 Жыл бұрын
Only $100 more than my 6900XT 🤣
@hardlinebruiser1311
@hardlinebruiser1311 Жыл бұрын
F
@DavidTMSN
@DavidTMSN Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo Жыл бұрын
Why did you pay that much?
@hovant6666
@hovant6666 Жыл бұрын
The "no tearing up" sticker was actually telling you not to cry
@peace_maybenot
@peace_maybenot Жыл бұрын
I saw neptune numbers from other hardware channels also coming to the same conclusion that the neptune doesn't provide much, if any, extra clock speeds under stock conditions. I'm happy to see gains from the newly updated/flashed turbo mode but it's a shame that the performance boost isn't that great for this water-cooled gpu.
@TheVideoCrazyness
@TheVideoCrazyness Жыл бұрын
That totally makes sense though since the air cooler 4090s are not temperature constrained and even at stock voltages you're at the far end of the efficiency curve. At a 75% power limit it already supplies almost 90% of the clockspeed. Meaning adding 33% power from there gives you +12% performance. Already not impressive, and still, at these stock settings, it's only 60-something degrees on air. Realistically adding another 33% power gives you the 600W limit but less than 10% in clockspeed as you'd expect efficiency to worsen further as it's a curve. So liquid is more about space in your case here.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
the space savings are still 100% worth it. If space saving is important, that is
@nehcooahnait7827
@nehcooahnait7827 Жыл бұрын
@@marcogenovesi8570 for me yeah… I hate those 3-3.5 slots GPUs
@blackmage4100
@blackmage4100 Жыл бұрын
For liquid cooled, there is the Suprim Liquid X. Should be interesting to see how that performs against the FE.
@propixia
@propixia Жыл бұрын
Optimum tech has a video on fe and suprim liquid x
@pcbuilderlover4271
@pcbuilderlover4271 Жыл бұрын
The Vbios switch is a better idea if you are needing to switch often as you don't have to open your case. Love to see this compared to MSI SUPRIM Liquid X.
@stavencapp
@stavencapp Жыл бұрын
who switchews it at all? if i paid 1800 for a GPU i want max performance all the time lol
@nascob
@nascob Жыл бұрын
I completely agree. I don't get the negative tone towards it. If I'm debugging a potential OC issue or I'm in the process of overclocking - why do I need to open up the case in order to switch bioses back and forth. This seems like a much better idea.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
@@stavencapp the real reason for dual bios chips is because you can flash a modded bios for overclocking, and you still have a "factory bios" you can switch to if the bios mod does not work (which is very possible). If your bios mod fails the card does not boot up and you need to use hardware flashing tools to rewrite the bios chip. Which is very inconvenient. They obviously can't market it directly as such because it voids warranty, in theory, in some regions.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
@ラテちゃん the "official" marketing reason is to have two card modes from factory, one for performance and one for silent mode with slower fan and less performance. This is really an obvious lie for many years. You can set power targets and fan speed settings with GUI software since years ago. The real reason is bios modding to overclock the card. Bios modding is ""not officially allowed"" by AMD/NVIDIA so they can't say "hey we made this special feature so you can do safe bios mod" in the marketing. They need to lie about that.
@eliotmansfield
@eliotmansfield Жыл бұрын
From a mechanical perspective I would design a card that simply has two coolant ports on the rear and keep all the pumps and radiators external. Then you have the option of running the lines through a pub beer line cooler 😊
@Ken-no5ip
@Ken-no5ip Жыл бұрын
I would hook up a car cooling system through the pc to be safe
@T1cksandLeeches
@T1cksandLeeches Жыл бұрын
I would just extend the hoses and place the radiator outside in the snow. Then I would move to a colder climate for the summer.
@Crow-EH
@Crow-EH Жыл бұрын
I would hook it up to the freezing cold heart of my ex
@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST
@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST Жыл бұрын
@@Crow-EHOuch! 😢
@LastAphelion
@LastAphelion Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to see more race car theme pcs with real parts, like have an actual race car radiator, turbo, and nos can as part of the case, would be amazing if it actually helped cool lol
@NeroKoso
@NeroKoso Жыл бұрын
Must say, that button location for bios switch is very nice. Opening the case every time to flick it is annoying (to be fair, not needed often). This one doesn't need that.
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 Жыл бұрын
6:58 "No tearing up" on that sticker instead of 'warranty void' may sound like a lost in translation error, but it is equally likely that they were on the receiving end of an FTC Action for violations of the Magnuson & Moss warranty and repair act, but still wanted to deter customers from servicing/modifying/fixing their cards and assumed most people would not read the text.
@proCaylak
@proCaylak Жыл бұрын
maybe it's just a tamper seal to indicate that it's been torn down at least to an extent, independent of how it affects the warranty status if there is one.
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 Жыл бұрын
@@proCaylak What i want to do is buy 4 of these cards, and use a friction driver to pull all of these stickered drives out without damaging the sticker(or a heat gun to pull them off) then put them all on one card, and send it in for an intermittant problem that they're not going to be able to reproduce and say 'i'll pay for shipping and all that if you cant figure it out because its just as likely to be my motherboard/monitor' I just want to see what they say seeing 4 tamper stickers when there should be only one.
@proCaylak
@proCaylak Жыл бұрын
@@denvera1g1 I admire such humorous acts.
@vexling1
@vexling1 Жыл бұрын
I like the fact that the bios switch is on the outside 👍🏻
@AdamsWorlds
@AdamsWorlds Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of buying an air cooled one to heat my house. My gas bills are already 4x higher than last year, to combat the cold i normally game in bed using the TV connected to my PC. Perhaps if i get a 4090 i can heat my home enough to sit at the desk and game during the colder months of the year. They need to start making watercooled GPU's with a quick disconnect on the card end and selling the radiator/fans/tube as optional extras. This way its easy to just hook them up to existing loop.
@MenkoDany
@MenkoDany Жыл бұрын
my 4090 heats the place up less than my old 3080 10gb...
@AdamsWorlds
@AdamsWorlds Жыл бұрын
@@MenkoDany ah, so maybe not a good option then. I need an upgrade from my 2060 (none super). Maybe the 4060ti/super or 4070. I dont actually game much in summer so the heating of the card would be genuine.
@xtxschmidt
@xtxschmidt Жыл бұрын
In the desert winter of Oregon I really do use my OLED tv + pc as heaters; they are about 4-5ft from me and I will turn my heat down so that it does not come on while I'm gaming. When you play a game like Cyberpunk on an LG c1 oled shit gets hot!
@AdamsWorlds
@AdamsWorlds Жыл бұрын
@@xtxschmidt yep, with the costs here in the UK of gas its allot to pay for heating + electric + gaming. It might genuinely work out better to get a hotter card with better performance and save some gas, pay a little extra electric and still live in warmth but only with the benefit of a better gaming experience.
@alouisschafer7212
@alouisschafer7212 Жыл бұрын
how do u still pay 4x as much im paying 2,5x as much as the normal level from the last seasons which was around 7 cents and electricity is now 2x the cost of gas so absolutely dumb idea to heat my place with electricity because gas is cheaper your pc warming the ambient air up is just a side effect
@realbadtech9318
@realbadtech9318 Жыл бұрын
Great coverage, with the amount of AIO failures I’ve personally seen across different systems and brands in the past few years, I’d be hard pressed to trust my shiny new $1800 4090 with one
@Lishtenbird
@Lishtenbird Жыл бұрын
I heard you get bonus points if you pair it with Royal Trident Z.
@streamroller1974
@streamroller1974 Жыл бұрын
STEVE 1- Who is the pump maker ? Asetek , CoolIT, Cooler Master ? Why you didnt mention this ? 2- What about Pump whine ? Is it audible ?
@hquest
@hquest Жыл бұрын
Back in my day, I used to receive unfinished software to test. Back in my day, those were also sent for free. In 2022, people seem way too happy to shell over a grand for the privilege (?) of testing products.
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo Жыл бұрын
A fool and his money...
@zukessurvival4785
@zukessurvival4785 Жыл бұрын
White PC color scheme is so 37 minutes ago. New age is to build as big and empty a PC as possible, keeping the primary components inside an all-glass case, while having your cooling system ported to the AC compressor outside. Also, your case can be beige. All your parts can be beige.
@alexmills1329
@alexmills1329 Жыл бұрын
Reject modernity, return to beige.
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 Жыл бұрын
4:10 Also the teflon line tubes can have the teflon flake off and clog the Block, either from poor manufacturing and/or the tubes getting slightly too bent during installation. permeation any day of the week over that.
@Zuleyus
@Zuleyus Жыл бұрын
Great video, but I would have liked to see comparison values for other watercooled or hybrid models like the Suprim in the charts.
@manguerrero6220
@manguerrero6220 Жыл бұрын
I appretiate all your complains. Ive taken decisions based on them and im very happy with the result
@alt5494
@alt5494 Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see GN test the Acer a770 16gb card. Using a blower fan & a high pressure blow though fan is a novel design.
@Prophes0r
@Prophes0r Жыл бұрын
That is literally how every server has been cooled for 30+ years... Which is why servers are SO loud.
@alt5494
@alt5494 Жыл бұрын
@@Prophes0r They are not in series but in parallel. Server are also only now moving to PWM variable speed fans verses extremely high speed/pressure constant rate fans. It entirely different from blower only cards. Take a look at the card it's a interesting option at $400 MSRP.
@Zzz76532
@Zzz76532 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to computers, and your channel has been invaluable to my research. It's UNBELIEVABLE how many tests you guys have run. The data. The data. THE MF DATA. You always provide the numbers. I wish every KZbin channel in their respective category followed this method. Thank you. Continue the good work, and may your channel never stop growing.
@FAT9L
@FAT9L Жыл бұрын
Seconding this. I'm the kind of person who gets excited over a good spreadsheet. I don't really care about opinions (unless it's a trusted one, like this channel), I want objective hard numbers that I can analyze and draw my own conclusions from. GN does an exceptional job with that.
@___DRIP___
@___DRIP___ Жыл бұрын
Steve is such an all rounder lol. The only KZbinr who can teach me about PCs, sell me products when he reviews them favourably, and make me laugh at the same time. “Thanks Steve!” Love the GN team! Haven’t missed a video in years lol. Edit: This card is a bit of a beast in the thermal department. I actually love the look of it too. Shame it couldn’t use that thermal headroom though!
@hassans3426
@hassans3426 Жыл бұрын
I do not get why everyone says the button is gimmick for the OC. its a genius Idea to be honest. This way, 1 - you will need a magnifying glass to see the switch and move it left and right. and most importantly, 2- you do NOT need to open the glass of the case to change Bios if you ever needed to do so.
@andrikurniawan531
@andrikurniawan531 Жыл бұрын
Maybe because it says one click oc, if colorful write dual bios on it, i think no one will complain
@hassans3426
@hassans3426 Жыл бұрын
@@andrikurniawan531 I mean .. its kinda common sense lol. one click to oc or u know... do not click it.. thats your second bios lol
@chanoname4940
@chanoname4940 Жыл бұрын
The way steve drop those coasters i thought they were tradable XD New idea GN tradable cards!
@hquest
@hquest Жыл бұрын
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@Username-u5e
@Username-u5e Жыл бұрын
@@hquest 😂Linus
@alexmills1329
@alexmills1329 Жыл бұрын
@@hquestJesus dude you took off with this
@8K240hz
@8K240hz Жыл бұрын
for someone who has such a deep history with pc gaming hardware i really haven't seen steve play any video games but i'm sure he must be into some ! one of these days it would be really cool to see what games steve plays.
@shirgall
@shirgall Жыл бұрын
That big black sticker could also help dampen vibration of the plastic housing where it's right next to the pump.
@masrock10
@masrock10 Жыл бұрын
Very true, that's a legit reason to use that instead of a cover directly on the pump. Physical clearance too. If it's tight enough for a sticker to work, there isn't much room at all in there.
@zixxth6377
@zixxth6377 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic in depth work as usual steve, we really appreciate your level of detail in your reviews. Would love to see this compared to the AORUS 360mm radiator in thermals of the GPU and the memory and MOSFETs and other and performance as well. Also, with AIO cards like that, the best case scenario would be a front mount with the tubes at the bottom, correct? Or am I misunderstanding something?
@funkonsight
@funkonsight Жыл бұрын
Interested to know the answer as well… Steve?
@kvn864
@kvn864 Жыл бұрын
oh, loved the button on the backplate!
@jonboy2950
@jonboy2950 Жыл бұрын
My Zotac Trinity, which is pretty much the founders edition with a huge cooler bunged on top is running at full load 54 degree C and 1820mhz at stock, im glad i did not pay the factory overclock tax.
@andrikurniawan531
@andrikurniawan531 Жыл бұрын
I like Colorful, one brand thats not cheap out on vrm component and power limit, not like most popular brand
@trees69
@trees69 7 ай бұрын
Ah was excited to see the fins under the pump
@MallocFree90
@MallocFree90 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand the critiques of the dual bios switch on the back of the GPU. It's a good feature because I can change it without opening the pc.
@ShimejiiGaming
@ShimejiiGaming Жыл бұрын
A bios full of issues sounds like a nightmare for this price lol
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo Жыл бұрын
It's not a bug, it's a feature.
@-opus
@-opus Жыл бұрын
18:10 "The problem is FE is getting really good now, and the price difference is still in favour of FE. Partners are going to have a really hard time competing on price with Nvidia" EVGA leaves the chat
@maegnificant
@maegnificant Жыл бұрын
Best thing about the FE is that they use honeywell ptm 7950
@rafsh1846
@rafsh1846 Жыл бұрын
the problem FE is common in north America , but rarely been sold by pc retailers in other countries , so Nvidia barely can compete with other brands all over the world
@maegnificant
@maegnificant Жыл бұрын
@@rafsh1846 don't think they need to dude. They earn most of the money from the other cards as well.
@EarthIsFlat456
@EarthIsFlat456 Жыл бұрын
You all seem to forget that availability of the FE is far worse so unless NVIDIA can offer enough of them partners are always going to sell a lot more.
@michaelthompson9798
@michaelthompson9798 Жыл бұрын
I love the design of this AIO cooler designed GPU by Colorful 💪🥰👍✊. I remembered using Colorful gpus back in the early 2000’s ….. they seem to disappear and reappear from our market here in Australia 🇦🇺……… yet have been seen for about the 5years or so from some retail stores.
@xyzwsfr
@xyzwsfr Жыл бұрын
Dear Colorful: a White 12VHPWR Adapter long enough to hide the cluster of 8 pin connectors would be nice thanks .
@COddietsch
@COddietsch Жыл бұрын
So glad you did a tear down. When I spend hard earned money on a so called top end GPU card, liquid cooled at that I expect a lot more. I am quite disappointed to the workmanship that they put into this. I am planning on upgrading my rig and have been researching for a while now. I can make this one off my list. Great video.
@elan_07
@elan_07 Жыл бұрын
Expanding on this investigation, it would be really interesting to to see an investigation into how custom waterblocks (EKWB, Phanteks, Heatkiller etc) compare on the 4090.
@elan_07
@elan_07 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you have plenty of work already on your plate tho!
@lawyerlawyer1215
@lawyerlawyer1215 Жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting, I would love to put custom water cooling on my 4090 But I’m just not there yet 😅 Between my own builds , and builds for my friends , I’ve become quite decent at building computers , but custom water cooling still scares the hell out of me. XD
@lowzyyy
@lowzyyy Жыл бұрын
@@lawyerlawyer1215 same with me. First is extremely expensive and second its extremely confusing because there is no "standard" way.
@lawyerlawyer1215
@lawyerlawyer1215 Жыл бұрын
@@lowzyyy yeah , on top on that , there the annoyance of maintaining it. It’s not like an cpu AIO , that you forget about it. You need to empty and refill the liquid every certain time etc. Aaaand on toop of that you see “professional” pc builders , having spillage problems on their videos , while building the loops, because the connections they decide to use , happened to not be not the best fit , although those where the ones that where recommended for their tubes . And when I see that , I shit my pants thinking about having spillage on my well past 3,000$ pc 😅 But one of the things, that stops the most from doing it , is upgradability I like changing my pc parts , every time something really interesting comes out. And I know , that if I went through the struggle , and tension of bulding a custom water loop , that pc is staying that way , till I decide to build a new one from the ground up 😂 And I might be on to emerging here, because to this date , I see custom water loop pictures and videos come out , with old , GPU and cpu configurations. Like GTX 980ti with custom water loops. The kind of guy , that built such a system in its day , is NOT THE kind of guy that keeps a GPU for 7 years haha my theory is that they rather build a new pc , than upgrade an existing custom water loop pc
@ledoynier3694
@ledoynier3694 Жыл бұрын
@@lawyerlawyer1215 actually 90% of the loop carries over to an upgrade. changing a GPU you only change the GPU block and keep all the rest (granted it's a 150 - 200$ block), but it's the same overhead as getting an AIO GPU. Maintenance? uhm not really. you overblow it a bit ^^ it's good to change the coolant at least once a year. If you're not all thumbs and were smart enough to add a drain valve to your loop it's a 5 minutes job. Open the vent, drain in a bottle, maybe flush with DI water, refill with new coolant, startup. But to get to the original question, a custom loop cooled 4090 would probably run 10 - 15° above water temperature, at least if you don't use a crappy corsair block. Water temperature would depend on the number of radiators and their size, so.. depends on the particular build. just to give a close example, my 3090 tops at 40°C on demanding games in a 25°C room. the cooler it gets, the less power the silicon draws for the same work. so there's even further benefits compared to AIO cooled cards. Mine idled at 54-55W on air, and now at 36 - 38W on water. The neptune would certainly show that too which is why it's so silly the vbios doesn't allow to take advantage of the big headroom. Of course, the benefit/money ratio is ridiculously bad. you don't custom watercool a PC for the gains only :)
@puppet_master
@puppet_master Жыл бұрын
Have an old 1080GTX from them (seem to have been shipping to the UK for a good while now). Has lasted ages with no issues.
@puppet_master
@puppet_master Жыл бұрын
@ラテちゃん got it just before crypto destroyed the market
@agentoranj5858
@agentoranj5858 Жыл бұрын
Holy fuck that typo is hilarious.
@AngleSideSideThm
@AngleSideSideThm Жыл бұрын
That's neat how y'all show your number of years of experience reviewing the product category
@erfanpoison7618
@erfanpoison7618 Жыл бұрын
Having a bios button near the the display outputs, lets you switch modes without removing case panel That's a neat feature imo
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino Жыл бұрын
About two dissimilar metals stuck together, they're brazed. Essentially, you're gluing one metal to the other using an intermediary metal that sticks to both.
@nintendoatarikiller
@nintendoatarikiller Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve My car cost about the same as this card so theoretically I could straight trade a 1999 Volvo S70 for this beast of a GPU. Mental.
@gadgestlab
@gadgestlab Жыл бұрын
Would love to see FLIR images of the copper heat sink in action.
@rellikai945
@rellikai945 Жыл бұрын
Who is Colorful to tell me where and where not to not "tear it up"? 💃
@litgeeksquadofficial
@litgeeksquadofficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve
@pcfreakx
@pcfreakx Жыл бұрын
It says no TEARING (tee-ring) up! You can't cry while removing it. Pretty solid advice.
@MrChomiq
@MrChomiq Жыл бұрын
Steve's hair reminds me of original Nightmare On Elm Street
@haywoodjay385
@haywoodjay385 Жыл бұрын
Their wiring solution for the fans is super clever, the other AIO companies should take note.
@nameinvalid69
@nameinvalid69 Жыл бұрын
I like the looks of this thing, blocky silver, looks very industrial, wouldn't thought that it is a GPU if not of the large model label.
@nene71286
@nene71286 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve. Great review. Have not have a desktop in like 15 years, I will definitely come here when i am ready to build a new setup
@brandonsteffenhauser
@brandonsteffenhauser Жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown and thanks for doing this. Seeing as how the GN team has been expanding the level of detail in testing for coolers, it would be fantastic to see a similar comparison to a custom loop with an EKWB on a 4090 and something like the Gigabyte Aorus AIO 4090 and ASUS's ROG STRIX AIO 4090 (when it becomes available).
@TheKazragore
@TheKazragore Жыл бұрын
Quite the colourful review!
@mustangthearpy
@mustangthearpy Жыл бұрын
Dang you Steve!! I've been trying to get Neptune with no luck!!
@6DAMMK9
@6DAMMK9 Жыл бұрын
PowerColor? It is notorious on lack of electrical circuit protection and always goes catastrophic failure when it comes. It is the opposite of EVGA.
@3RAN7ON
@3RAN7ON Жыл бұрын
I haven't tuned in for a minute and holy crap Steve has some gray hairs coming in! I feel old
@Standard.Candle
@Standard.Candle Жыл бұрын
So the real benefit is how quiet it is, care to actually measure this? That would be super useful. I have a Liquid X which I also bought because it runs barely audible at full load, so I think this is the metric that would be most useful to your viewers.
@TheSunflowerGalaxy
@TheSunflowerGalaxy Жыл бұрын
This is the way to go. The RTX 40 series should have come water-cooled from the onset instead of making ridiculously large heat sink and fan combos that do not fit into a mid sized case and spew ridiculous amounts of heat. Look forward to more stock graphic cards with water blocks.
@kylebrown3043
@kylebrown3043 Жыл бұрын
Can confirm, coasters ARE awesome. Mine came last week.
@watsup39
@watsup39 Жыл бұрын
I think the button approach is a very good troubleshooting feature! It allows you to switch out problematic vbios without needing to open up a panel on the case. This easily let's you test out problematic Vbios software - which neptune is definitely dealing with.
@sam7u
@sam7u Жыл бұрын
In Norway all 4090s still out of stock 😥😢😤
@UNKA757
@UNKA757 Жыл бұрын
So good to see that your card wasn't replaced with Metal, Rocks or Anti-Static Bags......that were empty.
@KingSvenDeluxe
@KingSvenDeluxe Жыл бұрын
Nice of them to leave a decent amount of cable slack for that vBIOS switch.
@AceStrife
@AceStrife Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see a turbo button on a modern GPU. Maybe it can help get 'cinematic' FPS on demand!
@spankeyfish
@spankeyfish Жыл бұрын
I bet it's actually cos there's a 486 chip running the pump, lol
@Arthzil
@Arthzil Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you do comparison of all 4090s with AIOs.
@TipOfTheSauce
@TipOfTheSauce Жыл бұрын
@epicgames1792wrong name lmfao
@DoObs
@DoObs Жыл бұрын
It must also be mentioned that those AIO coolers the FAN/RGB cables run coiled up both tubes to the Radiator from the GPU block. So people get the wrong impression that their tubing ID is going to be wider when in reality its actually not. Those inner ID of those tubes are like 4.5mm/5mm. Thickness of the tubing is maybe just under 2mm thick. Giving your overall tubing OD being just under 10mm.
@unfortunatelyrob2635
@unfortunatelyrob2635 Жыл бұрын
Thanks steve
@pauldrice1996
@pauldrice1996 Жыл бұрын
I remember the turbo button on old old computers that actually make it slower but I didn't know that at the time. Its a feature to make it work with even older software (mostly games) that's designed to run at a lower clock and will run the entire game, not just framerate, at double or more speed if "turbo" is not enabled/
@gidderman
@gidderman Жыл бұрын
Alright so what im hearing is, put the radiator in the bottom of the case, then cut the return side hose and add an additional reservoir higher than the pump. Check ;)
@genericscottishchannel1603
@genericscottishchannel1603 Жыл бұрын
The button isn't a gimmick it's how it fucking should've been done in the first place, as long as it's just soldered to the board and 90 degrees itself out the back
@kaylanwade3392
@kaylanwade3392 Жыл бұрын
"No tearing it up" goddamn it burke XD
@badnewsbeaver
@badnewsbeaver Жыл бұрын
Pulled out a 1.3mm allen head bit the as I heard that in the video 😅
@deepend9376
@deepend9376 Жыл бұрын
Been a part of my toolbox since 1983!! It just happens to be the size needed to adjust the height of the arm lifter on my record deck/s (Rega).
@camjohnson2004
@camjohnson2004 Жыл бұрын
Finally, someone puts the Dual V-BIOS switch external so you don't have to open your case to switch it
@nsday1
@nsday1 Жыл бұрын
just started the video. I'm hoping to get an RTX 4090 soon, and also hoping to get a waterblock for it. Mostly for space, but hoping for some better performance, too. Somewhat funny/cool. Your sponsor was ThermalTake, and I just bought their The Tower 500, upgrading from my BeQuiet Quiet Base 801. Custom loop that has been such a pain to fit. I'm really liking The Tower 500.
@mafiahalo93
@mafiahalo93 Жыл бұрын
someone should explain to nvidia/Neptune how the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act before they get sued for having those screws saying do not open/warranty voided if removed shit
@realkarfixer8208
@realkarfixer8208 Жыл бұрын
7:04 Thou shalt NOT be tearing up!
@GasKetse
@GasKetse Жыл бұрын
Would you say that the MSI Suprim Liquid is a better option?
@DirtyTesla
@DirtyTesla Жыл бұрын
4090s still hard to get. I guess Nvidia needs to raise prices more :D
@butterfingersman
@butterfingersman Жыл бұрын
thats some great cooling performance, i hope they sort out their vbios situation and allow more power to get pushed through it. at that price point and level of cooling, overclocking should've been more of a consideration from colorful.
@fairycat
@fairycat Жыл бұрын
Thanks for review
@stuartlunsford7556
@stuartlunsford7556 Жыл бұрын
How is allowing vbios switching without opening your case a gimmick? Sounds like a blatant improvement to me...back to you Steve???
@danielthompson4865
@danielthompson4865 Жыл бұрын
Come on people! Give Gamers nexus more thumbs ups! You know you’re loving this content!
@RedAppleApe
@RedAppleApe Жыл бұрын
I am still waiting for some 4080s for custom loops. Since my 2080ti runs alone in a cl it would be waste of money for the existing loop to put him away. My old 9900k has a nice AiO with 360mm radiator for himself hehe
@aimmarc367
@aimmarc367 Жыл бұрын
I run pretty much the exact same stuff, curious on what your cpu temps look like?
@Dethmobile
@Dethmobile Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Steve
@AndreyStevn
@AndreyStevn Жыл бұрын
How in all heavens were you guys able to get that card? I've been trying to get this card and every Aliexpress listing were scams
@mindwreckRC
@mindwreckRC Жыл бұрын
video cards are getting power intensive. Ive been watercooling since 2002.. but only cpu and it was fine with a 360 with silent levels or even full passive with just a 3900x. then i upgraded to a 5900x and i added a 6900xt and the gpu cooler noise it made was insane with the 90C temps to go with it. I couldn't take it. finally added gpu into loop and it dumped so much heat i had to upgrade to 2 420 rads to keep temps below 50c at silent noise levels. i like the turbo button. hearkens back to the old 286 386 days. 😅
@gugugaga42069
@gugugaga42069 Жыл бұрын
2022 best aio?
@RackBaLLZ
@RackBaLLZ Жыл бұрын
I like the bios button placement. Very practical
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