Champion Traps And Targets Ruger 10/22 Magazine Speed Loader

[@chicagorandy]

GREAT vid. Bought one of these loaders several years ago, got frustrated when I couldn't load even 1 mag and relegated to dust collector status on a cabinet shelf in my gun room. Came upon it last week by accident and decided to give it one more try before throwing it in the trash. THIS vid unlocked the 'secret' that I must first load 1 round into the mags by hand - YAY! - it now functions quite well and saves my aging arthritic fingers the ominous task of loading 10/22 magazines. The rifle will now become a frequent range companion. A good value accessory for anyone IMHO.

[@bandit9902]

Great instructional video, just got one of these units and some pistol primers at a garage sale .Now I know how to use it ! Came with a second loader box also

[@nickgiordano8179]

You need to go with the "McFadden Lightnin' Grip Loader" instead. Modular design allows you to use it on different magazines, just buy the adapter specific to the applicable magazine.

[@CopperStarPrecision]

Unfortunately that does not work with Ruger factory mags, it only works on the aftermarket ones. Also the McFadden operates by pushing the nose of the bullet which has the potential to impact accuracy.

[@IzakGt]

I recently bought one of these speed loaders before stumbling onto your channel. I'm really enjoying your content, thanks for sharing! I had no idea that NRL22 was a thing. I *sort of* like the Champion Speed Loader... I feel like the angles on the slots that the pegs of the crank run through could have been done a little better. For example, rounding the edges a tad. The crank mechanism on mine would sometimes get snagged on the sharp edge of a slot and hang up making the loading not as smooth. I decided to *void my warranty*. Opening the lower mechanism seemed like it might break a tab on the plastic so I avoided that. Instead, I drilled 4 small holes above the tracks of the slots using a precision hand drill and making sure the pegs were out of the way near the sharper edges of the tracks. I then sprayed a dash of WD-40 PTFE lubricant in the 4 holes (a dash is an understatement but I intended a tiny amount. I cleaned up any access that I could get to). That was enough to eliminate the friction of the sharp edges and make the loader run really smooth. Of course, this may cause issues down the road due to build-up in the tracks or debris but I'm willing to gamble and just buy another one if I end up liking it. I'm on the fence about it. So far I like it but I don't like that I had to modify it to make it run how I'd expect it to be out of the box for nearly $50 bucks. I think if I was approached and asked about the Champion Speed Loader I'd point out my experience thus far and would probably recommend a Maglula 10/22 as an alternative solution. I've read comments that folks mention that this Champion device will mess with grouping. I suppose I can see that if they are damaging the round by forcing it to feed into the mag thus marking the lead tip or denting the casing, then I suppose there is some plausibility there. Have you experienced any issues using it vs loading by hand? I've also heard folks report that Ruger made 10rnd mags work better than 15 or larger. I'm not sure how that would really play into things but I suppose the gun might like some mags over others? Any thoughts on that? Thanks again for the content!

[@CopperStarPrecision]

Thanks for the comment. FYI I think sportsman's warehouse has them for about $30, but I'm not allowed to link that here due to KZbin rules. Maglula is probably also a good choice, but still a little too manual for me. When range sessions and lot testing require 500+ rounds the Champion Speed Loader wins out for my use. The only time a case gets dented is when you accidently force an extra round into a mag, but when I do my part I haven't had an issue. I have had good luck with accuracy from both 10 and 15 round mags (original Ruger mags), but 25 round mags have been difficult at times. As for accuracy differences, there may be some, but when I test for accuracy I load the same way I would for a match which would be using the Campion loader. One of the biggest keys to accuracy is consistency. Could it be more accurate loading by hand? Maybe, but am I going to load the same way every time? To me the speed loader tends to be a more consistent way to load. Just my opinion.

[@jimmywallace9399]

Agree got it works ok it's not as easy as he showed

[@Josef_R]

Have you done an update on this? It has pretty bad reviews on Amazon and looks like a child's toy for quality. Are you still using it?

[@CopperStarPrecision]

Still using it with great success. I think a lot of people don't bother to read the instructions. You need to load the first round of each mag manually and if something feels forced they're probably doing it wrong.

[@jamesdelong6401]

Nice loader. Looks better than caldwell

[@johnnycardozo5813]

Just found you channel and this is a great video. Have you tried it with the 50 rd ruger drum?

[@CopperStarPrecision]

I have not, but it works with my 10, 15, and 25 round mags. Not sure about the drum's mechanism.

[@billvanbuskirk4349]

It would be nice to see a comparison , between hand loading and using this,i would bet its closer than you would think

[@CopperStarPrecision]

Even if the time savings is a wash, it's a lot less work on your fingers using this loader. When you're loading mags over and over again during a competition like NRL22 or Steel Challenge it makes a difference. Save your finger for the trigger!

[@salvatorehayes2753]

Can You Feel When It's Full? Or Do You Really Need To Count How Many Rounds?

[@CopperStarPrecision]

You will feel resistance when it is full, but if you go past that point you may dent the case of the last round and/or break the winding handle. I've always found it best to just count the rounds.

[@gjhoward]

How would you say this compares to the Caldwell speedloader? By the look of it, I would say the rounds don't get hung up as much as they do in the Caldwell. Both recommend starting with one in the mag as you mentioned, so they have that in common.

[@CopperStarPrecision]

They are similar designs, but I think that this one is better built.

[@robertrootz1851]

hcs mags is a faster design for 20-25 round magazine one 25 round magazine holds 45 rounds. fun with stripper clips and a binary trigger.

[@CopperStarPrecision]

Very true. This is more applicable to competitions like NRL22 or Steel Challenge where 10 and 15 round mags are more frequently used, whereas the 25 rounders are seldom seen.

[@philliphurst106]

This work w the bigger mags? Like 15 rounds and up?

[@CopperStarPrecision]

yes

[@datapro007]

Maglula is simpler, cheaper and better. Btw .. the 10 round mags are rotary, the 15 and 25 are not, not that it matters here.

[@terryladd9515]

Does anyone know if this will work on a Winchester rotary mag? I know that the ruger fits the Winchester wildcat/xpert rifle

[@NoPro1962]

That’s amazing if it works have you noticed same reliability with cycling.

[@CopperStarPrecision]

No issues with feeding rounds or cycling on the 10 and 15 round mags and no measurable change in accuracy. The 25 rounders are a little more finicky

[@SideSwipePB]

@@CopperStarPrecision Could you elaborate? Do you recommend a loader?

[@CopperStarPrecision]

@@SideSwipePB I like using it. It saves time and saves my fingers from getting all waxy.

[@SideSwipePB]

@@CopperStarPrecisionhave you tried the maglula?

[@screweduprebellion3577]

Prove they actually filled the magazine

[@Spaman42]

Little spicy for $50

[@CopperStarPrecision]

What are your thumbs worth? It's $30 at Sportsmans Warehouse or $38 at optics planet, I just can't directly link to those via KZbin policy

[@kirkragland7563]

That took longer than loading them by hand. 🙄

[@OveToranger]

Fine, upload a video showing you loading 4 magazines (with commentary) faster This seemed both thumb-sparing and fast enough to liking it

[@Josef_R]

​@@OveTorangerWhy is there always some buffoon who thinks you have to have YT videos to know anything? I'm asking you because you should know.

[@toneeclark399]

Haven’t received mine yet but did purchase online. I’m PFG at reading directions but you advice is appreciated and will be followed. Thanks.

[@OveToranger]

​@@Josef_R​ Why is there always some buffoon who thinks you can just spew out any kind of nonsens without context ? Also not sure what you mean by "you should know" ? Are you commenting on my reply to @kirkragland7563 ? "you should know" Know what ? That showing a video of you doing something is quite the proof of what you say compared to "I can do that faster/better" or "that was slow" ? You're right ! I do know that !

[@Josef_R]

​@OveToranger There's no lack of context anywhere. But the first guy was right and there's no need for him to make a video to understand that he was. I said you should know referring to buffoons, and you proved me right (without a video, mind you) by replying to me with the same thing I said, like a child. So whoooosh, I guess.

[@willardcollier5191]

This has to be the biggest piece of junk I’ve ever had.