Change to Watkins Glen | Best Throwback Scheme? | Dover Analytical Preview!

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Drivers have mixed reactions to a proposed Watkins Glen change. Did Kyle Larson just win throwback weekend? Let's take an analytical look at this weekend's Cup Series race at Dover!
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0:00 Larson throwback
1:11 Watkins Glen change
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[@lionelnextelstudios0.282]

The terry labonte throwback is the best one since the ross chastain dei throwback

[@jeremyharper3462]

I agree. Don't forget trackhouse did both cars that weekend. The Suarez version wasn't as cool as the #1, but it was pretty close.

[@BraydenBunch58]

Yeah But Teresa Had To Make Them Change It :(

[@gamez4420]

​@@BraydenBunch58 you'd think she'd be running out of money by now and willing to make some kinda deals for rights to use Dale Sr/DEI imagery.

[@JayStephens8]

So glad they are finally running the cornflakes scheme hopefully they run the frosted flakes scheme next

[@EricEstepp]

Frosted Flakes has to be next haha

[@braydenheady7971]

I’m goin to Watkins Glen in September I can see a flip now

[@EricEstepp]

Might see a car fly to the moon

[@johnathanjohnson5367]

I don't think so it takes a lot to flip now I'm sure you are probably thinking about the 2011 flip that was because because of a crash and what wall he hit nothing do with weight of the car

[@braydenheady7971]

@@johnathanjohnson5367 I know what you’re sayin I don’t think it actually would cause a flip just makin fun of the curbs plus I was also in there in 2011 also

[@GortTheCapybara320]

I’m going too, lol 😂

[@braydenheady7971]

@@GortTheCapybara320 I’m camping from Wednesday through Sunday

[@jabber1990]

you're right, the Bus Stop isn't broken, Turn 1 is Broken. the lack of Track Limits destroys the racing

[@Hunter4829]

Watkins Glen should be sponsored by Allegiant. Those bus stops will have those cars higher than 3CHI.

[@miketwotwenty]

They should’ve left the track alone!

[@Yeetmaster94]

@@miketwotwentyI can’t find a flaw in his logic, this change is bs, years of no complaints, and now they decide to change it?!?!

[@miketwotwenty]

@@Yeetmaster94 I agree!

[@aloelover6012]

​@@Yeetmaster94 Probably a vocal minority of fans asked for this.

[@jeremiegranger7285]

We going to see big wrecks at the bus stop. I could see this repeating the 2021 Indy Road Course in the Cup and Xfinity Series.

[@camaroboy1968ss]

that is what I thought too when I saw the pictures. Someone is gonna get pinched down there, or your gonna have more people miss the corner all together due to a car on the inside line push them out.

[@jeremiegranger7285]

​@@camaroboy1968ssI could imagine the big one happening on lap 1.

[@johnathanjohnson5367]

I think it will work out way better than Indy

[@andrewwaring3643]

I’d love to see all the Hendrick cars do a 90s and early 00s throwback. Rainbow 24, Kelloggs 5, Lowe’s 48 and GMAC 9 maybe.

[@fivespeed42]

I'd like to see a Tim Richmond or Kenny Schrader #25 scheme in the future

[@andrewwaring3643]

@@fivespeed42 same

[@dannyalex7152]

That throwback scheme for Larson is the BEST Throwback I have ever seen… who knows if even Trackhouse can match that with their throwback schemes…

[@nathan1sixteen]

The reason the drivers are seeing so many G’s is because the cup cars are so stiff now. The Xfinity cars are WAY more forgiving.

[@nikkoperrella]

Again, I'm calling BS, I need a better explanation on how they're experiencing 11g's there. F1 guys peak at about 5g's. The space shuttle is about 9-10g's.

[@Kamik62]

​@@nikkoperrellathat's a lot of gs

[@submarinesammy]

​@@nikkoperrellaThe difference is shock vs acceleration. Kyle's data is shock data (hammer). The space shuttle example is acceleration (centrifuge).

[@Itsgamingtime11-co5kp]

The throwback for Larson looks amazing 🤩 it’s a shame they couldn’t get Kelloggs Corn flakes for the sponsor

[@iceeblueburst03]

Love the Terry Labonte throwback scheme, definitely going onto the top throwbacks of this year! Can't wait to see what other throwbacks we'll get!

[@bcdarling3488]

Just wanted to note that Hendricks is teaming up with NHRAs John Force Racing. Sponsoring Brittany Force this weekend and other selected races

[@johnhaas2523]

Hendrick automotive group by the way

[@BestGuy2103]

Oh yay sausage kerbs in NASCAR. Totally wanted that after all the great things that have happened with sausage kerbs in F1

[@benwalter4842]

F1, WEC, Lemans, Australian Supercars, BTCC, and DTM.

[@BestGuy2103]

@@benwalter4842 pretty much FIA lmao

[@letto18]

*Charlotte Roval enters the chat*

[@HMSTITANS]

Stay off the curbs… problem solved. It’s the driver’s responsibility to stay on the track. If you make corners that can be cut, they will be. Drivers are going to be more willing to risk a penalty from NASCAR for cutting a corner than they are to risk penalty from damaging the race car. What’s the point of having a “racing surface” if you don’t have to stay on it? Drivers cutting the dogleg at Phoenix ( I think it’s ridiculous that NASCAR allows it) and don’t mind the jolt can’t very well complain about the jolt when they hit the curbing at a road course.

[@BestGuy2103]

@@HMSTITANS That's not the issue. If a driver hits the curbing, there's a small chance they flip, and similar curbs have killed drivers across the world. It's simply dangerous

[@TheSpreadCFB]

Awesome throwback paint scheme having flashbacks of 96 Beautiful just beautiful

[@bearmarsh6579]

Hands down the best throwback scheme...Kyle Larson's #5 car what a great tribute to Terry Labonte.

[@twoblacklabs904]

Now imagine an actual Kellogg’s Corn Flakes partnership w/Terry, Kyle and the #5 Kellogg’s car all over their cereal boxes… It’s a missed opportunity if you ask me…

[@bearmarsh6579]

It still looks great...

[@hw919_]

So, the problem with the bus stop is the G force from cutting the corner. So, nascar adds a bigger curb. They will still drive over it. Honestly, they should consider making the curb lower and embracing the cut or consider adding a tire wall to prevent the cut all together.

[@tescoshortage]

If it completely destroys the car, they can’t drive over the curb.

[@johnathanjohnson5367]

​@@tescoshortageand think about the tires the cup cars has thin tires vs the Xfinity cars and the Arca cars so those cars have thicker tires so it absorbs more vs the thin tires which I'm sure people who put thin tires on their vehicles can probably relate when going over a speed bump even going slow it still doesn't feel good

[@driverslqqk7940]

It seems they need bumps there because lately every track we've raced at has a terrible bump in it that causes wrecks what else is new😂

[@nothinghere7391]

You said that "Gen7 doesn't jump the curbs as much, because it's closer to a sportscar". It's much more similar to a V8 Supercar and they are FAMOUS for flying over the curbs

[@ray.shoesmith]

Watch them at Surfers Paradise, they spend half the lap on two wheels 😂

[@n4rwha1theheroslayer]

My problem with the change to the curbs is that it makes it more dangerous to run over them in order to try and eliminate the problem. Now, if you run over them to try and gain an edge, it might hurt more and cause drivers to experience more force than before. Instead of solving the problem, it seems like it's making it worse to try and deter it. I guess we'll have to see when they get to the Glen

[@j.michaelfinn3987]

Having flashbacks to the Indy curbing fiasco a few years ago.

[@mitchtimms9130]

That Watkins Glen Bus Stop with those kerbs could become a lot like Australian Supercars running through the Beach Chicane at Surfers Paradise. The cars (very similar to the current-generation Cup Car) bounce off the kerbs and fly through the corner complex, it’s quite spectacular to watch as well as being the fastest way through the corner

[@michaelcrane2475]

Was thinking exactly the same thing. Should suit SVG nicely.

[@nomadman5288]

I was just thinkingabout this scheme about 3 weeks ago and how Larson should run it at Throback Weekend. Can I also add: What happened to the special All-Star Race paint schemes they used to run? Bring that back!

[@nothinghere7391]

I can see why Kyle is the one supporting the Watkins Glen change and those with no Cup Series experience don't see the point. Most other stock cars don't run very stiff setups, their construction isn't rock hard either, which we could see for years when drivers were jumping the curbs at Sonoma, for example... The Gen7 is unbelievably stiff, not only with its construction, but also the suspension setups teams use to maximize speed and get as much downforce as they can from the underbody. That's why Kyle feels like his brain is getting rattled around in his head over the curbs

[@miketwotwenty]

Yeah but the gen 7 races similar to a gt car!

[@JacobNascar]

That zip line camera at the Watkins Glen bus stop is one of my favorite camera angles of the entire season and I wish other tracks had it. Yes I remember what happened and acknowledge the hazards.

[@thekingofkings7590]

Can't wait for another repeat of the indy road course

[@johnathanjohnson5367]

I don't think it will happen plus for the next gen car I think it's because the tires don't absorb the bumps or jumps unlike what the Xfinity cars car the Arca cars can and the trucks and it's because of how much thicker the tires are the cup cars are basically using rubber bands as tires and it can't absorb even though it is wider but it doesn't help with that. I think it will work out better than Indy easily

[@johnathanjohnson5367]

I don't think so I think it will work out way better than Indy

[@fivespeed42]

Please no, that was a disaster

[@samanderson1014]

I’d love to see a Tony Stewart Home Depot paint scheme

[@christiankallio8586]

Was REALLY hoping Larson would throw it back to Terry. Hope sometime in the furure he does a Frosted Flakes throwback and Byron does a T Rex throwback with Raptor

[@austinpfoster]

Not only is it the 40th anniversary for Hendrick Motorsports… It’s also the 40th anniversary of “Texas” Terry Labonte’s 1st cup championship! (in the Hagan Racing #44)

[@brokenujoints3811]

Wonder how many g's the woodchuck felt when Jeff Gordon hit it on the back straight some years back! The old indycars would fry thier brakes on that stretch before the bus stop was built. Danny Ongais smoked the rears all the way up the s, no chicane, turbo v8 cosworths, F1 was awesome at WG, in the Gilles Villeneuve era, watching him in the rain...and burning buses and a plane in the bog...ah, the good old days!😅

[@kylebennett6414]

I'll be at Dover this week!!😁

[@ZRobertson91]

The Glen is probably my favorite track on the planet, so seeing it change is for sure frustrating. However, I can't ever say I don't want to try to keep drivers safe

[@johnathanjohnson5367]

I think it will work out better

[@fivespeed42]

My feeling exactly

[@johnrubino8937]

Disappointed by the Watkins Glen news. When I heard there was going to be a change, I immediately thought that NASCAR would race "The Boot" configuration.

[@toddmanger7194]

You all remember that Indy road course race when that curb tore up race cars. Could see that very same thing.

[@drdetroitwheels]

I saw it earlier today I definitely like that Terry labonte paint scheme and Corey Hines driving this week driving the Richard Petty 200 win car

[@polycube868]

Both beautiful classics

[@Jdogg97910]

So ready for the Kellogg’s car at Darlington #5🎉

[@2LabsGarage]

had me all excited, I thought you were going to announce that they were running the boot this year

[@alexhathcock1380]

Awesome "Throw Back" on the 5. My nephew was 4 or 5 years old when Texas Terry ran that scheme. He called it the "Ducky Car"! Made me laugh, yet proud that he was watching. Especially the disappointment he displayed, when the 5 car's cage got rattled at Bristol.

[@yeti96]

Those bus stop changes are bringing back Indianapolis road course flashbacks

[@ihateracin]

I’m on board for the huge turtles at cup races. There used to be a lot more passing at road courses before they made all the cars the same, but there also used to be more passing at road courses when they didn’t have as much runoff. Back when they actually had to woah up and let off the throttle, just in case they weren’t gonna make the exit of a corner which gave chance for the guy behind to close in for the next braking zone, but this doesn’t happen bc they all blow the corner exit limits every road course they go to

[@evanpittman4201]

That throwback paint scheme looks awesome.

[@naparacingfan9275]

Labonte Corn 🌽 Flakes throwback is 🔥 🌽. Wish Kellog's would've come back for a 1 off but still looks fantastic.

[@TheCloudCreation]

This will sound harsh, but I don't actually care about the "lesser impact" standpoint of changing the busstop curbing, there are a dozen tracks where drivers experience peak Gs in the double digits every lap, that's nothing abnormal. What I do actually care about, is that they, seemingly, brought back the busstop in it's original design. It's designed to be a double S basically, but over the years, the curbs have gotten worn down and flattened so much, that the cars basically just go in a straight line. I'm glad that we will potentially see cars having to quickly navigate AROUND the corners instead of just blowing through them like they have in recent years.

[@GASparky217]

This Watkins Glen change is good in my opinion. The track was not designed to be driven the way NASCAR drivers currently run through the bus stop. This will force them to drive the track properly

[@grahamcrackergaming1540]

Ya know something I got the thinking about with Cup drivers experiencing weird G-forces in weird points, it honestly has me thinking back to Group C sports cars in the 80s and early 90s when Toyota developed the TS010 which was the car Toyota built to comply with the 3.5L naturally aspirated engines to copy F1 at the time. If anyone knows the story of Group C you’d know how crazy of an era it became with the types of engines and how much power they produced and aerodynamics were being pushed until the FIA wanted them to run the same 3.5L engine rule in F1. Essentially Toyota’s TS010 produced too much downforce for its time, and during testing driver Andy Wallace went through a high speed corner and had enough Gs that a small bump was able to break his ribs. And this was after the car made its debut in the final round of what’s now the WEC in 1991 in preparation for the 1992 season. NASCAR has built a car from a form of motorsports with decades of technical learning experience and somehow managed to have a sports car style car that is in a way still decades behind. Definitely needed more testing for the car before actually being in a race. I think the problem was at the end of the Gen 6 era the fans weren’t gonna keep putting up with the boring 550 package, NASCAR and the fans wanted closer racing between the teams and drivers, trying to get costs down, and NASCAR wanting to get the car out before their 75th anniversary, but of course papa Rona pushed things back and NASCAR rushed the car out too soon and now in live action everyone is experiencing its strengths and flaws.

[@polycube868]

Gen 7 should have been delayed until the least 2023, it wasn't ready when they were testing it at Charlotte with 550 horsepower and drivers had to beg for more horsepower, it wasn't ready when Kurt Busch and Alex Bowman suffered concussions from ordinary looking crashes, it wasn't ready when they took it to Martinsville in April 2022 the first time and put on an uneventful boring race, in early races drivers got stuck, couldn't do burnouts to celebrate a win without needing towed back, I shutter to think how rushed it would have been had it came out in 2021 as scheduled, NASCAR should just gave it at least another year or 2 for further developments instead of rushing it, at least come out with a debugged gen 7.5 that keeps the basic tub of the car similar but actually fixes all rest of the problems.

[@jcarn24]

With previous gen cars, Watkins glen required much slower speeds through the bus stop…yet some of the most exciting racing happened during this time. There was also more grass and less paved surfaces which made it more punishing for drivers if they got off course. I’m ok with Watkins Glen doing this, but the real change I want to see is less tire on the car/smaller brakes… having larger braking zones is what makes the cars slide all around, rather than the slot car road races we have today

[@NeedsLessWedge]

The COT of all cars had some of the most brutal and memorable Glen races.

[@1977gforce]

Imagine having to keep to track limits - what a mad concept.

[@aaronclawson835]

That's an awesome paint scheme on Larson's car

[@billsbetterthanurteam8488]

I think Larson should be the favorite for a reason because last year he was the fastest car before he got destroyed by chastain mistake and the year before same thing before a tire issue.

[@marcusvillarreal]

I think Christopher Bell is the favorite to win this race

[@flint005]

Terry Labonte is my all time favorite driver. This throwback paint scheme gives me goosebumps . Love it so much

[@johnathanjohnson5367]

Larson does have a pretty good point because I think about it as the next gen car doesn't feel well when the cars goes through bumps or jumps it a little bit even the smallest impact hurts. But if you notice what drivers said that they don't like the change one is from Arca and the other is from Xfinity what do they have in common thicker tires so it's not just the shocks and springs that absorbs it it's also the tires. The next gen car doesn't have thick tires now yes it's wider but that doesn't help the tires are basically like rubber bands or like when you see pick up trucks or cars with huge rims and a thin tires I'm sure most people in chat would say yeah it doesn't feel good going over speed bumps or curbs. I think that's why Larson said what he said

[@chadcunningham7363]

Texas Terry…what a great way to honor one of the greatest-love the throwback! Well done HMS!

[@ryanwalker1593]

Chase's Dale Jr throwback has something to say about the best throwback.

[@frevazz3364]

I believe the next gen cars are bottoming out on the bust stop so that’s causing the jolts Larson showed on that graph.

[@offintheesses]

In IMSA many of the cars do (or did) attack those curbs in the bus stop! In many instances they would get some air off of it! This was more common in the GTD classes (that look more like cars we see on the road) than in the rigid prototypes!

[@driverslqqk7940]

A throwback scheme that might Maybe give the five competition would be the 2014 T-Rex car and then have Byron Win It and it's legal are they say it is that would be a good car for a throwback scheme😮

[@WizardKingNick]

When you pulled up the X post of drivers responding to the Glen post I was expecting to see Hamlin say something, but I guess the last time he criticized a road course it started a whole thing.

[@kooljayjohn]

Top throwback for sure! Love it

[@gr8aquino]

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Larson’s throwback ends up being the top selling diecast of the year…

[@NeedsLessWedge]

One scheme to top the corn flakes, would be the silver GM Goodwrench #3 paint scheme, with someone besides Dillon in it of course

[@ahoff88]

The biggest problem with Watkins Glen is the run off at T1 and out of the Carousel. Make drivers stay on the track and those with the talent will have the opportunity to shine. I would say look at the F1 Chinese GP, they added a strip of gravel about 6ft wide at the exit of the final turn. It kept drivers on the track and if drivers had an issue they still had the asphalt on the other side of the gravel to regain control of their car.

[@jokool_aid]

Love the classic Kellogg's #5 throwback! Easily one of the most iconic paint schemes! It's too bad they couldn't get Kellogg's to do a one off sponsorship for the race, but they did a nice job using the Hendrick Cars sponsorship! 👍 As for the kerbs at Watkins Glen... It doesn't look too bad? Like, it doesn't seem like they're as big as those turtles they've used at the Roval in the past. As long as they don't come up like what happened a few years ago at Indy and knock out half the field, I don't think it's going to hurt anything.

[@hollygolden9673]

I was a fan of Terry and Bobby Labonte.

[@jeremyharper3462]

Come on ross!!! Get er done!!! His next best track is Nashville. He flies on concrete if it isn't Bristol for some reason.

[@user-dv7ro8xp4f]

nice throwback ty Eric - whats with the ambush Matt tee shirt ?? asking for a friend

[@Sheva9NJ]

Austin Dillons Dale Sr throwback is pretty good. Would be better if they used the black numbers on the car too.

[@polycube868]

I'm just glad RCR is participating in throwback weekend again

[@keithlarkin9478]

Terry Labonte was my first favorite driver, I love the throwback 💚🤍❤️

[@mastoner20]

Honestly, if drivers were routinely experiencing 15 to 20G every lap, that adds up over years! And if it could help give the drivers a needed pass opportunity, then, you know, sounds like a banger to me.

[@aaronleesgbclieutenant]

Hey Eric lowkey keep an eye on Berry. He finished 10th last year subbing for Bowman and he has a win and several top 5 and top 10s here in Xfinity

[@mannymcdilda3089]

Love Terry labonte Kelloggs car very coool😂

[@driverslqqk7940]

The Terry Labonte car looks great as you would expect from HMS they're sitting on the mountain looking down on all the other teams who find it impossible to compete on a weekly basis with HMS it's easily seen as an organization that has made itself King of NASCAR teams they have one more done more and as far as Kyle Larson I believe he has etched his name now as today's modern Dale Earnhardt although Dale never got a chance to continue racing unfortunately but I am sure that if you bet on an HMS car your odds are very good that three of the four cars will at least finish in the top 10 and one of them will win the race they are undisputable and unbeatable and they're only getting better so I don't look at past stats I see who's running the best now and naturally they are and they will continue to dominate their organization is the biggest and the best of all of them Joe Gibbs can't hold a close second to them RCR is non-existent a Ford hasn't won a race Toyota not enough cars in the Toyota camp Chevrolet makes them up it's a great time to be an HMS fan because you're going to see more wins from them and more excitement than you weld from any other team from here on in in NASCAR proven they rule the sport I guess there will always be a dominant team or a person but I do like to see a little more parody it would be a real boring world if one team always dominated a sport football basketball baseball we like a little variety and we ain't getting that didn't NASCAR now we're going to go into Indy car racing and they're picking the call Larson to win that race well that might be hard as a first time driver no matter what speed he has Indy is not like NASCAR I'll give him credit overall he's the best driver there is in the sport of auto racing now but he has only proven himself in his Nascar and off track racing endeavors I'm not ready to call him a total world champion he has yet to win five championships in a row he is yet to win seven championships furthermore no Hendrix driver but 48 has ever done that he tops the chart of greatest all time HMS drivers Jeff Gordon can't hold a candle to his record that Was a Race Car Driver Jimmy Johnson the best we have seen😊

[@owinhalpain6865]

That throwback looks real good.

[@polycube868]

Can't wait until next April to buy the diecast!

[@owinhalpain6865]

@@polycube868 Same.

[@crowley29]

I gotta say this....besides Terry's #44 piedmont throwback how has it taken this long to do a terry labonte throwback in cup any of those Kelloggs schemes are iconic

[@autophile-cv621]

I agree with Kyle Larson, the speed humps will be better for racing. I think its about time NASCAR did something to keep the cars on the racing surface at the road courses. Score one point for NASCAR.

[@zachwright3759]

I say that if they don't want cars cutting that corner, just extend that wall to the curb and they won't have the option at all to cut it. IDK, just my opinion and thought of what they could do instead of the big ramps.

[@trkpony]

These always sound like a great idea and a deterrent to stop drivers cutting a course, yet they always hurt more when hit through a mistake or an incident. Sad to see these added

[@skippingrhyme4386]

if they wanna reduce G's sue to the car being stiffer wouldn't NOT adding Giant Pyramids to the Track be a better solution? I'm no expert but adding a and bigger, taller curb would seem to make the impact more severe wouldn't it?

[@since1961]

The theory is to quit driving over the curb? Drive around it?

[@c.d.8975]

Someday they will be doing a Ryan Preece throwback ☝️👌🪠🧢🏁🤺🪮

[@jwrailve3615]

Every khellogs variation could be run for the next 5 years and every throwback would be good, the blue rice crispies, this throwback only the red and yellow were inverted, the Frosted Flakes Tony tiger scheme, the chocolate crispy car, I mean every single one

[@gdvibes1]

I just watched the interview with Eric and Kenny Wallace. I didn’t know Eric was 6‘7‘ tall till then..😂😂😂

[@crocidayle]

I never understood why they raised the curbing so high anyway when they knew the cars would go over it. Why dont they just lower curb and leave it, that will lower incidents plus will dramatically lower the G's as well

[@kenmartin1919]

18g’s is excessive. I had no idea. Making it safer is cool in my book.

[@fredfernald8016]

re: curbs. NASCAR drivers need walls to keep them on the track. Design a track surface, lines etc no use it. Use whatever it takes to keep them on the track surface and off the grass, dirt, etc. Heaven forbid they have to actually use the brake to slow down to manage a track surface properly. IMSA, yes.

[@waynemangan7200]

The T. Lobonte scheme looking so good just reminds me once again that nobody at HMS cares enough to tell Rick that the Hedrick Cars scheme is as boring as plain cornflakes. I think the bane of Larsons career. God I wish they'd leave it like the anniversary car with the burgundy metallic and white, or make it metallic blue like Jr's National Guard for Pete sake.

[@VanillaSpooks]

At first I was a little annoyed at the change, but the reason is valid so it’s a good thing for safety!

[@donluepkes5695]

Looking Good Hendrick Motorsports Keep on Kickin'Ass People's.🇺🇸💯🏁👊

[@austinciccocioppo2975]

Nascar should run the Boot at Watkins Glen International and not bypass it like they do every year

[@benwalter4842]

Why they not run the boot already?!

[@polycube868]

The Larson throwback sure is pretty, Chase is running that Dale Jr throwback, I hope William Byron has something epic in store...same with Alex Bowman, should be a Jimmie Johnson 2006 livery.

[@mmlips]

whaaaat? It's Hendrick's 40th? Wow.... I hadn't heard............

[@motorosso3349]

They should run the full course at Watkins Glen for the Cup cars.

[@drdetroitwheels]

I know why the heck they're adding that to that track there hasn't been a fatality since they changed it after JD McDuffie's fatal crash and the week before a what is now called a GTD car I believe Tommy Kendall wreck the week before and broke both his legs

[@ethanweeter2732]

HMS and JGR will be the favorites at Dover.

[@sohumg_07]

have we not learned from sausage/turtle curbs? take it wrong and you send your car flying. try and avoid it, you risk wrecking someone else and letting a third driver sneak through. they should have made it a penalty system like cota, albeit more consistent with said penalties.

[@JG3RTR]

I don't like cheer for Larson. But I love this scheme. Terry Labonte was my favorite driver growing up.

[@rileymaenhout1732]

They literally drive straight through the bus stop. You used to have to actually navigate the curbs there. It was an art form. Not anymore

[@munaclassic4020]

As equipment and technology evolves so does safety standards

[@the80hdgaming]

As long as those curbs stay attached to the surface...

[@TiringTire]

Just what we need in racing more sausage curbs

[@Yeetmaster94]

W throwback, dumb changes to Watkins Glen.

[@JOHNNY07-wu3cd]

Can NASCAR consider using the LONG circuit for the race, more viewing area at the track, more skill required, better chances for good racing

[@femacampetiquettefordummie6979]

Not the G-forces will even be made worse, by the drivers who will still hit the curbs inadvertently. Just rename "The Bus Stop" "CTE Corner"...or "Dain Bramage Berm".