Changing/Tuning Tenor Heads with the USMC Quadline

Learn some classified tips and tricks to get your tenorline sounding great!
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[@moment4535]

I put the grease in the lug with a toothpick. Way less messy. And the wax also gives the head a little lubrication, which keeps the shell round a little longer. So it does double duty. The only issue with the wax is it can deaden the head for a week or so if there is too much wax on the bearing edge. Great video man

[@colethewhitechick4357]

Tbh EMC doesn't get enough credit that he deserves. His videos are funny and entertaining but at the same time educational (some what 😂)

[@johnmchugh8049]

I would have killed to have access to all this info on something like KZbin in 89

[@DanielMakesCadences]

Instead of throwing out the heads, could you lend them to our school? lol

[@T1tanz]

That could lead to damaging your tenors. Also depending on how you tune especially high schools. You may pull the head.

[@DanielMakesCadences]

Rogue how would it damage the tenors? Those heads look the same size as ours. We also tune almost to the same pitch as theirs.

[@noahharp1763]

Just as a tip: most cases of asking for things will warrant no response because it is too troublesome

[@BrickLogicStudios]

At my high school we only change our heads whenever they break... unfortunately

[@coolman56live]

same bro same

[@keenman0403]

Same here :/

[@nxt4150]

We have multiple extra snares or extra quads. So we just change what snare/tenor set you're using unless bass

[@juancastillo9834]

Same here. It sucks

[@suburban_matrix6206]

Same.

[@Thomas_Varnell]

9:27 Just leaving this comment for when I tune my heads later

[@DATTTDARK]

Thanks dude i need it too

[@T1tanz]

Met EMC at the RCC show and it was incredible watching them. Honestly crazy to hear a drumline that clean. Really cool guy and was kind enough to answer my friends and I questions. Good luck on the rest of your tour and keep up the amazing work.

[@Bobobo-bo-bo-bobobo]

I hate changing strings on my guitar (Floyd Rose bridges are a pain), but I hate changing drum heads even more 😂

[@ryderalley4853]

Nah tryna restring a Floyd is more annoying lol

[@nickcorey8836]

Why on earth do you not have a shirt that just says "Have a good morning"?

[@phatclouder6983]

Bruh we haven't changed heads but once in 4 years unless they broke

[@hax0n23]

if they break we still dont change them.

[@yairsalazar730]

Bruh why do y’all wait so long we get 4 head changes every season I thought that’s how it was supposed to be

[@SusannE-zw8rn]

Yair Salazar it depends on how much money the school (or school district) has for band. Some kids are privileged enough to play drums that replace their heads often and some aren’t. It just is what it is

[@PoohStickProductions]

This would've been GREAT to have about 7 years ago

[@bobdadruma]

Those drums are about 200% higher than I tune my Jazz kit. Insane.

[@nielsemilbechnaumann]

That's how that kind of drum sounds normaly

[@juancastillo9834]

It's tuned so high because the sound that people hear from the crowd is much lower then what you play so to accommodate for that they are tuned higher.

[@damianhernandez1820]

Do you know if those high tunings would come out well on suede heads? I'm specifically asking more about Remo's black Emperor suede heads because I've been wanting to try nice and high tunings like that for our quad line but I'm worried about tuning to high for the heads cause I've never tried that high lol would appreciate some help!

[@damianhernandez1820]

@@EMCproductions thanks!!!

[@JRUU775]

@@damianhernandez1820 I've tuned pretty high on the black suedes, ya should be good on cranking them.

[@b.cramer4573]

Love the hardstyle in the background lol

[@TealTactics]

Hardstyle? Where?

[@b.cramer4573]

@@TealTactics You can hear it around 6:25

[@TealTactics]

Now *that's* what I call musical taste

[@b.cramer4573]

@@TealTactics Cannot disagree with you ;)

[@guang-wen]

Awesome video! Is there any way we could get some insight into how you guys tune the basses as well? Say hi to Garrett for me!

[@nathanhoang6365]

Thank you so much for this video it gave me a better understanding of how to tune quads

[@keys-]

At my HS we like NEVER tune our drums. It got so bad that head 1 was LOWER than drum 2, until I, the mf freshman, offered to finally tune the quads

[@grt002]

Eric, this might be the most informative and helpful tenor head tutorial on all of KZbin. Thanks so much for this.

[@lucscott3631]

Head change EVERY TWO WEEKS? Holy shit. We do a whole season like practice in July and August then football games and competitions and stuff. Then pep band. And we change once a year. Drum heads are expensive

[@tgdivad]

Is it me or are the notes in your diagram off from what you hear on the video? I hear low to high E - G - A# - C# (so same minor thirds, wrong starting pitch)

[@mahuul]

Use "off" (yes the bug spray) and spray the logo on the spock. Let it sit for 5ish minutes then with a paper towel scrub the logo off. You need to put a good amount of pressure to get it off but it'll make it so you don't smear your heads. That's what my techs have me do at Stryke.

[@wafersss]

@@1bird_d so you don't smear the heads, also did you just call the spock heads spike heads? Lol

[@RedDogMamaHD]

04-07-2020 Quarantine Comments: 35th New EMC Productions video that I've watched over the last 3 days ...

[@shyeast9093]

What are the sizes of your drums? I have a 6" 8" 10" 12" and 13". So would the tuning differ to the size of the drums?

[@soggybreadlolz7045]

My friend last year got a tenor with a broken head. She asked Mr. Jenkins (our band teacher) if he could change the head. He said the he would fix it later. This year I joined band and I got the same one that she got last year. It's still fucking broken.

[@seanobert1240]

My school changes drum heads every 2 years... 2 kids have had to play with broken resonant snare heads for about 2 months now

[@HumphreyFamilyHolsteins]

I always wondered how many ensembles the different branches of the military have. Like how many groups does the marine corps have? Or are you the only 3 tenor players in the entire marine corps?

[@johnmchugh8049]

I haven’t played in drum line for over 30 years and I’m addicted to your channel ! 💯💯💯

[@MichaelG63]

Fun note about white lithium grease: inhalation in an enclosed area can cause sudden death. Stated right on the can.

[@holton345]

WARNING: Method not recommended for tuning contras. (I marched in DCI in 1984 and our eight contras were adopted drum techs. My low frequency colleagues and I helped the battery with head changes (up to finger tight) and helped our five non-singing, tone deaf bass drummers get their heads up pitch. (No, like most people they could not hear that low accurately, but as tuba players we could.) This allowed the staff to do all the final tuning. We also were the harness hardware bitches. Lots of deez nuts to tighten up, boi. I think the snares considered the contra players to be indentured servants or something. It was a fun way to sit in the shade while the hornline sweated out basic block marching or brass sectionals. (The battery *always* found the best - or only - shade. Imagine 25 players all crammed into the tiny shade patch of one, scraggly tree in a field in Nebraska.) By the way, we were a Top Twelve corps back then, but with a very low budget, so I remember head changing days happening about as often as Laundry Day, which was around every two weeks, two tours of a total of 32,000 miles and 36 shows. (We also walked to school. In the snow. Uphill. Both ways.) Yes, in the early 1980s we all had stanky clothes and our drum heads sounded like a tonal flabalanche, but technologically speaking our line was using the then-popular Slingerland TDR snares (with the slapshot strainer! woohoo!) and a 36" Bass 5. Ancient history.) "America's Quad Line" - You guys need your own distinctive red and gold teeshirts with that on it. That name is pure sexy. Subbing your new page, guys.

[@jacobhanekamp2534]

0:16 wait, you brought CHICKENS!!

[@alejandrocintron3722]

Remo Pinstripe is where it’s at tho

[@b.cramer4573]

The best heads are the ones that you have on your shoulders because they store all of the knowledge that you could ever use. Use your head kids. Learn something. But don't drum on it tho that would be dumb

[@dylanshay646]

what pitches do you recommend for 6-8-10-12-13 tenors?

[@codyappell24]

I’m wondering the same

[@HisHeroIsJohn]

Why specific notes instead of the vaguer "intervals"? What happens if a song's key signature doesn't have one of the specific notes? Like a tune is in C, do you not play on the A# and C#?

[@jakekim7109]

we practice 3 times a week and my snare heads are only changed once every 3 - 4 months

[@miless17]

Jake Kim way more than we change them

[@dylanshay646]

be thankful. schools i taught it never get new heads. i’ve had to buy them myself and that’s the first new ones they’ve had in 8 years

[@fearinghealer6153]

I really love this KZbin channel it is so helpful to drummers out there like me!!!!! Nice Video!!!

[@jacobhanekamp2534]

Eric: Good Morning!!! Do you guys want to say good morning? Section Leader: Good Morning!!! The other Tenor player: Good Afternoon!!!

[@0Aquamelon]

You made me realize that my new drums at my high school are warped. 😬Good thing it’s my last year there hehe...

[@tabernash5739]

drumcorpscoffeeshop is giving you guys the recognition you deserve 👁👅👁

[@RedDogMamaHD]

Came here today because someone on Instagram asked Eric to do a Tuning the Tenor's video. Sent him the information for this post! (Language says is Portuguese!) 7-16-2024

[@MNUFCLoonatic]

It's it's funny how I always watch these in the afternoon

[@collinstaten5374]

We always change heads before comps, normally before we head to the competition

[@TealTactics]

Hey Eric, do you know who put on Hardstyle while you guys were tuning your drums?

[@TealTactics]

Tell him he has good taste c;

[@sami9139]

I have the same tuning keys

[@agamnon2619]

Meanwhile: My HS drumline hasnt changed heads in 6+ years.

[@raliminer]

they are going in THE TRASH!

[@KillerRaspberry]

Tight and tasty

[@thebloom.sun20]

Qual a cadência do fundo?...

[@sandrosiva7419]

VCs sao incríveis

[@Dirk_Von_Dickshlinger]

Spray the white lithium on a rag then go and wipe each lug...

[@puzzyflapz9718]

Bunch of band geeks

[@angelparra5944]

Why do u guys use pearl drums with Yamaha hardware and stands

[@angelparra5944]

Ohhhhh okay thanks for clearing that up😄

[@semajpennix3954]

Fourth place great vid

[@WhyTheHorseface]

Is your name Eric Carr?

[@harrislaing4697]

Blue Devils wants to know your location

[@tonythompson4022]

"or good afternoon" that's illegal

[@ZOMBEY-KILLUR]

Do you have any sheet music I can use for quads? I can't seem to find any good exercises (especially 8 on a hand) and i would really appreciate it if someone could link me some.

[@resonanttotality8322]

If you break a head... You better frigin get some rigger's tape on that... Good to go?

[@flushu603]

Shoutout to the person in the background playing Hardstyle!!! Hardstyle for life!!

[@infinityspike8876]

9:27

[@mrpiklez3703]

6:33 OMFG THAT"S GENIUS

[@skymanderggg_9792]

lol i figured that ou through my own without help its smart lol

[@birbyboi8567]

Yeah do not tune school drums as high as they do. If The drums, rims, lugs, and heads are old. They will break unless your drums are well taken care of never tune them that high.

[@ramonsamayoa5275]

 Cómo se pronuncia What is the name of the song you put in the background in the video?

[@503music6]

I recommend getting quadratics quad book for beginners they show tuning

[@louizematthewalonzo4914]

Hi sir im a tenor drum player here at the phillipines im a super fan do i have a chance to have a not new but good sounding tenor drum pleaze 😇😇😇

[@prestonjones20013]

Are those Pearl drums with Mapex hardware?😂

[@Pruitt638]

I like turtles. I also like hi hats made from gongs.

[@ihychapa]

9:28

[@Greenday4-121]

This is such a great video!!!! Hey bow does promotions work in the commamdants own drum and bugle corp

[@oskarfield8696]

2:37 bottom right is how my School tunes the quads

[@banzChad]

We changed to Yamaha drums now What is the best Tama Yamaha Pearl System Blue Dynasty

[@PostLagone]

Dynasty

[@hunteralexander9791]

pvt.edgy What about the weight though?

[@PostLagone]

@@hunteralexander9791 not as bad as you would think

[@Zmar.Racing]

Dynasty 100%

[@shockerthreeone]

Pearl

[@snmfsquirrel87]

I always come back to this video to tune my quints

[@shaquille.oatmeal2377]

Yup still high school band kids at heart

[@SaneTheBro]

such marine behavior

[@ethanbrennan7089]

i rehearse everyday from august to november including weekends and we only change our head once lol

[@outdooroperator714]

What kinda of Tenors do y'all play?

[@sw5824]

Wow marched Jr. Corps from 1975 to 1980 this video could have saved our quad line from 250 pushups each person over the years for putting on new heads at rehearsal & breaking them weekly cranking em up never ever used wax or was instructed to use wax. Wow

[@michaelwilliams2364]

Don't feel bad. Using wax on bearing edges is nothing new, but it's still not widely used or even widely known... and actually this is the first tuning instruction I've seen that gives away the magic trick. Hard wax does a fantastic job of allowing the head to slip over the edge more easily while cranking on it, but on the other hand It also tends to take away "some" of the brightness of the drum (how much completely depends on the brand of drums, condition, heads, and how the wax is applied). If I had to guess, using wax on late 70's drums would have certainly preserved the heads, but they may have ended up sounding like tuned cardboard boxes. On a more personal note, Thank you for keeping the activity going for us later generations to enjoy!

[@kylesommer4024]

Wait, so did you go through boot camp, and then join the drum line? Does this keep you from being deployed? Can you explain your story here?

[@grt002]

He auditioned specially for the drum and bugle corps that exists within the marines, won the audition, THEN did boot camp and started with the corps afterwards

[@theblackwidow3401]

*tunes drums to diminished 7th chord why

[@mikenseattle2841]

Minor thirds just sound good on drums. It's the "go to" interval.

[@drummerzip]

Did the old heads stay in that dumpster? :p

[@nichojordancog6905]

Ada mika remo dan evans juga

[@mantistoboggan2599]

Dude one day during Indoor in ‘16 we broke 30 lugs while tuning. Our drums were trash

[@jacobhanekamp2534]

Indoor '18, my Vibe pedal bolt (the bolt that holds the pedal off the ground) stripped durings WARMUPS right before REGIONALS!! oh that was a scary day

[@Ilovekghimothy]

At my middle school we get to change our heads every season.

[@percspot872]

Its great to see this vid back.

[@awokenanthony4715]

My school we change heads every semester

[@Bologna_Jones]

Who is first chair?

[@badatgames56]

What is the Hz for each of the notes?

[@TheDiverseKnights]

What about Snare?

[@the_pimp_hand_strong1598]

Intro song plz

[@cadenmarcell6637]

this mans face is staring into my soul

[@onlyjdsanchez4540]

Good morning (2310)

[@RedDogMamaHD]

9:02 Reminder .... tuning

[@purpleposse6745]

You need more subs your thought me more than school did

[@bearblackhawk9362]

Except how to spell.

[@mahuul]

What sticks are those as well?

[@moneylibrary5161]

This is why I play snare

[@tabbbasco_sauce4545]

so no head?

[@resonanttotality8322]

I'll take all those heads...

[@littlertenordrummer4452]

the instagram didnt work:(

[@littlertenordrummer4452]

Ugh. Can you tell us in your next vid when it’s back. Thx ( I regret having my name little tenor drummer cause I’m a big tenor drummer now 😂)

[@owengalligan4052]

Do you tighten it to make it higher?

[@Justus-td3be]

Tenor Covers yes. You tighten the each lug the same amount like he showed in the video, and then tune each lug so they match. If you’re looking for a higher pitch, you increase the tension and you release tension to lower the pitch

[@YourAnxietyAttacks]

are tenors heavy?

[@YourAnxietyAttacks]

or heavier than snare?

[@michaelengle9062]

@@YourAnxietyAttacks yes, quite a bit.

[@pekay406]

great video !! love you eric!

[@ferretyluv]

6:51 Your relative pitch is jacked. The right one sounds higher.