Channel Strip Shootout: Lindell Audio 69 Series vs 50 Series vs 80 Series | Plugin Alliance

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In this video, Joe Carrell demonstrates the unique analog sound of three legendary analog consoles: Lindell Audio 69 Series (Helios style console), Lindell Audio 50 Series (API style console), and Lindell Audio 80 Series (Neve style console). Become familiar with some of the industry's most widely popular mixing tools. Streamline your mixing workflow by choosing the right tool for the job.
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@foxytv4896
@foxytv4896 Жыл бұрын
It's really pleasant to listen to Joe, his joy and passion is contagious...
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@danepaulstewart8464
@danepaulstewart8464 Жыл бұрын
Ahh, to be a recording/mixing engineer in 2023! Dang these console emulations sound GREAT! Many folks might not hear much of a difference between them, but the sound engineers are grinning ear to ear. 😁 Joe is a consummate pro, and his descriptions of the differences in tonal characteristics are really spot on. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dane. We are in good days indeed!! Best wishes brother.
@atashbeats8055
@atashbeats8055 11 ай бұрын
Joe Carrell is a great teacher, and a gentleman. I could listen to him all day.
@mandubien
@mandubien Жыл бұрын
The API sounded the best to me here. Maybe the hi end was pushed a little bit too much but I really enjoyed the clarity on this one. I love using this one on drums!
@MrRoth_Official
@MrRoth_Official Жыл бұрын
Massive amounts of inspiration, as always from Joe Carrell, excellent mixer/producer! Great job Plugin Alliance! 💯
@PluginAllianceTV
@PluginAllianceTV Жыл бұрын
That's really cool feedback. Thanks for the great support and enjoy your sessions!
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!!
@michaelsstatement
@michaelsstatement Жыл бұрын
Joe rocks! Love your content and the way you explain things. Thank you!
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael !
@rickdeaguiar-musicreflecti7692
@rickdeaguiar-musicreflecti7692 Жыл бұрын
Just a fantastic overview of these Lindell Channel Strip plugins, Joe. Overall I liked the Lindell Audio 69. But at the same time I see the power of the others for certain types of coloring. From your Plugin Alliance video a few years back I started using the SSL channel strip plugins. Now, I'm going to dive into these Lindell Channel Strips. I did not realize how powerful they are. I so appreciate your time on this. Love your teaching style :)
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you Rick 🎉🎉
@nathanmcclellan8078
@nathanmcclellan8078 5 күн бұрын
Great shootout and very good explanation of all three! Thanks!!
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time again, Joe. This Helios sounds pretty good, I like the API's relatively clear UI but it shrunk the sound-stage in comparison to the other two. The Neve sounds too mid-cloudy here and it's UI is sub-optimal. I've got the SSL 9000, Focusrite and console_N and I would buy some more, but PA UIs are so often rushed and/or wasting much space. This Helios has fonts on top of each other (see: comp threshold) and the switches look like 1/4" jacks with a ball bearing stuck to the edge. A great big fader that rarely gets use, and the Neve's got space-wasting knobs 20x larger than the text that you actually need to be able to read.
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 Жыл бұрын
Also, this is a nearly 25-minute long video but each audio example is rarely heard for even as much as 10 seconds ... at least use some text instead so we can HEAR things without constant interruptions saying the same things we've already heard 1000x in hundreds of other channel strip videos.
@TonjuwelenDeAgentur
@TonjuwelenDeAgentur Жыл бұрын
Like always... Joe Carrell is a great mixer/producer and a great entertainer. I really love his videos. And on top I love the three Plugins he talks about. This made my day 😊
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it 🎉
@JCDwyer
@JCDwyer Жыл бұрын
Joe, your walk-throughs are the BEST. Layman’s terms with just enough tech jargon to know what’s happening to the sounds. You’re a great teacher for simpletons like me, haha.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you man!!!
@JCDwyer
@JCDwyer Жыл бұрын
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell nah, bro. Thank YOU!!!
@TheGoatBeats
@TheGoatBeats Жыл бұрын
Ohhh mr Joe, always glad to hear your perspective. Having fun indeed.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TheGoatBeats
@TheGoatBeats Жыл бұрын
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell​​⁠Thank you for the information and perspective into crucial issues, im referring to all of your videos as a sum.
@jrm_music7229
@jrm_music7229 Ай бұрын
9:11 that’s sounds nice! Focused whereas the Lindel 80 channel is aggressive but open !
@danepaulstewart8464
@danepaulstewart8464 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you again, Joe! I have greatly appreciated the first two channel strip videos you made for P.A. and I think they are some of THE MOST HELPFUL for people who are trying to learn about the purpose of, and the differences between, these amazing console emulations. VERY helpful, mate. Very helpful. Well done, Sir. 😎👍👍
@StevenMikel1
@StevenMikel1 Жыл бұрын
I liked the 80 Series on the drums, the 50 Series on the guitars and the 69 Series on the over all mix.
@philippgrunert8776
@philippgrunert8776 Жыл бұрын
For me it is the other way around, but I get where you are going with the Helios :-)
@RealHomeRecording
@RealHomeRecording Жыл бұрын
​@@philippgrunert8776same. I love me some api on drums and Neve on guitars.
@bakharandi
@bakharandi Жыл бұрын
On my current African Drum ensemble piece , I am using all three of these Beauties . . . ! . . . Someone mentioned online about how good the 50 and the 80 work well together . . . So, I've been starting with the 80 and following it with the 50 on the same track, with with great results. . . & I just pulled out the 69 again today . . . Joe's video is spot on . . . I was finding myself cranking the 69 today, and feeling self conscious and confused at at how high I was boosting and how good it sounds . . . Yet it does say Passive , right on the console . . . It's good to see some reassuring perspectives on the inherent natural behaviors of these three amazing consoles ! (-;
@theofficialraysr
@theofficialraysr Жыл бұрын
Love these videos from Joe Carrell!
@elovesmika
@elovesmika 10 ай бұрын
Love it! Nice shoot out and I really needed to hear those back to back with someone who knows how to do a shoot out! Thanks so much Joe!!! Nice job.... love your passion!!
@Tyrell_Corp2019
@Tyrell_Corp2019 Жыл бұрын
I just watched a bunch of videos on the 69. This was by far the best video. Thank you!
@stevenroach2296
@stevenroach2296 5 ай бұрын
I finally gave in and decided to try channel strips and I am glad I did. They just work and add so much character. Plugin Alliance is giving these things away right now with their sale. I bought all their channel strips and a boat load of other plugins.
@allpdmusic
@allpdmusic Жыл бұрын
The 80 has been my favorite for a few years because of how silky that top end is BUT... hearing it after the API, it sounds muffled because the API has that fast high end snap. Especially on the snare. I'm going to have to do a back and forth with the 80 and the 69. Great video Joe!
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you man!
@philippgrunert8776
@philippgrunert8776 Жыл бұрын
I have waited for this since the SSL video
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you Phillip!
@murraywebster1228
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
As always great stuff from Joe, really well explained, great enthusiasm for his craft…
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Murray!!
@murraywebster1228
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell my pleasure Joe, as always!
@danepaulstewart8464
@danepaulstewart8464 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that Helios is so “gentle” in the highs while still bringing so much clarity. Fascinating.. As usual the API is as brilliantly metallic sounding as ever. The Neve is strong yet creamy. Like lows, mids, and highs all spread like icing on a cake.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Beautifully different
@donraccoon6316
@donraccoon6316 Жыл бұрын
The 69 one sounds the best for me😮😮❤
@ToXball
@ToXball Жыл бұрын
Watching these videos by Joe is always a pleasure and very instructive. I would like to point out that at the 14:00 minute however we are listening to the plugin with the high frequencies not activated as the frequency selector is set to Off. Anyway thank you for this comparative video and above all for explaining in a simple way some concepts that we would not have other ways to get to know better. Great plugins, I'm testing these three with a greater predilection for API and Neve.
@ShiningHourPop
@ShiningHourPop Жыл бұрын
Great comparison Joe. The video and explanation really showcased each of the channel strips. I have the 80 currently and look forward to mixing some new recordings through it.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you man! Best wishes
@SonoraOndaLatinaOficial
@SonoraOndaLatinaOficial Жыл бұрын
Great!!!
@dustinpaintersound
@dustinpaintersound Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a big fan of the 50 and 69, but I really need to try out the 80 too. We’re lucky to have all of these tools at our disposal. Thanks for the great demonstration, Joe!
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Yes we are indeed!! Thank you Dustin
@paulrucker1889
@paulrucker1889 Жыл бұрын
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell You DO need to try the 80, too!
@DanielGlenTimms
@DanielGlenTimms Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Joe! The Helios may be my favorite on this, although I am a Neve lover. I like putting the 80 across my mix bus sometimes, especially since it has 7.1.4 output setting to put on my Atmos bed. I am looking forward to having that option on many more plugins in the future.
@DanielGlenTimms
@DanielGlenTimms Жыл бұрын
@abhisheksrivastava3787 I know. That is why I have Heritage Audio Neves that do. The 80 works sometimes when I am in the box for Atmos. It's not bad. But thank you for your profound enlightenment, Captain Obvious.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you Daniel!
@paulrucker1889
@paulrucker1889 Жыл бұрын
mmm, how do you get the 80 to work in 7.1.4? It will only do stereo here. Nuendo 12/PC. If its a ProTools/Mac thing, I'll pass the info to a friend who would appreciate it. Thanks.
@DanielGlenTimms
@DanielGlenTimms Жыл бұрын
@@paulrucker1889 I am working in Pro Tools with Dolby Atmos Renderer, I am able to insert the 7.1.4 version of the Lindell 80 on my bed setup, which is an excellent feature. Hopefully more plugin companies will start doing this. PSP Aural Comp is also very useful in this capacity.
@TheGoatBeats
@TheGoatBeats Жыл бұрын
The 80 gives such a good bass, my favorite out of 3 for this track.
@1loveMusic2003
@1loveMusic2003 Жыл бұрын
The guitar came to the front nicely with the API it sounded good. Liked the low end on the helios.
@DigiMixAudio
@DigiMixAudio Жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe for the comparison! The Series 80 is my go to plugin.
@PluginAllianceTV
@PluginAllianceTV Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!!
@ogedayerguven5642
@ogedayerguven5642 Жыл бұрын
In 14:03 Joe forgot to engaged high shelf on Neve but increase the amount. Jokes aside, seeing Joe before mixing or recording, gives me lot of inspiration.
@mikebooth9619
@mikebooth9619 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with your assessment of the 69 based on your run-through. I'm probably showing my age by preferring it, but you're right that it is everything we talk about when we talk about analog warmth. I have the 50 but now I'm gonna have to get the 69. Great job for PA and for us fans!
@PluginAllianceTV
@PluginAllianceTV Жыл бұрын
We're glad to hear you like it. Thanks for the nice feedback and enjoy your sessions!
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Mike!
@TraeEdwardsProductions
@TraeEdwardsProductions 7 ай бұрын
Man the Helios is a very “comfortable” soft polished sound! I actually love it❗Perfect video man
@ArloTarr
@ArloTarr Жыл бұрын
I have the Neve, I have the API, I gotta get the Helios. Love your plugins. Joe does an awesome job explaining the feeling you get from each🤘
@PluginAllianceTV
@PluginAllianceTV Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Arlo 🎉
@_patrikjay_
@_patrikjay_ Жыл бұрын
Great comparison Joe. Thomas Lindell is on another level imho. & those Plugin Alliance folks aren’t half bad themselves 😉☀️
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you Patrik. Best wishes 🎉
@pco2004
@pco2004 Жыл бұрын
Love this guy! Great comparison too.
@ayodelmusic
@ayodelmusic Жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation on all the 3 channels strip model great sound live the 69 on the mix
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@ayodelmusic
@ayodelmusic Жыл бұрын
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Nice video boss
@guillerob99
@guillerob99 Жыл бұрын
Excelente, Gran review. Yo tengo el Lindell 80 y el Lindell 50. Efectivamente el 50 tiene mas definición pero los altos son muy ásperos. El Lindell 80 es increíble, yo nunca he usado una consola profesional, pero al utilizar el Lindell 80 me parece que fuera de hardware, y todo suena más grande. Me encantó el Lindell 69, he visto otros reviews pero no me han gustado, ahora al compararlo con estos otros plugin se pueden sacar conclusiones más útiles. 1o. Lindell 69 por flexibilidad y sonido. 2o. Lindell 80 por su gran sonido aún si no mueves una perilla. 3o. Lindell 50, muy áspero en los altos.
@PluginAllianceTV
@PluginAllianceTV Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice feedback and sharing your experience!
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@bwall615
@bwall615 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Joe! I used the 69 on a traditional country project a few days ago. Have mercy. It was smooth and tasty. Especially in the roundness of the low end. But, I have been stuck on the SSL 9000 J. I’ve been doing entire mixes with it on every track. Do love the API on rock guitars. And country if it has that bite.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@kenglod
@kenglod Жыл бұрын
Always pleased by your videos Joe. Thank you kindly! So far my favorite BX_console strip is the Focusrite SC. It sounds expensive!
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ken! I use the Focusrite in the exact same way. It’s my “elegant” maker
@claudius3124
@claudius3124 Жыл бұрын
Great tips and tricks! Really enjoyed it!
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@Purgatorium8
@Purgatorium8 Жыл бұрын
Lindell Plugins 50 Series 🤗👍❤
@joro7656
@joro7656 Жыл бұрын
I know in context we have to listen and not isolation however when you engage the plugin it seems like the whole mix changes and sounds like you're engaging all of the channels. I hear the difference in the guitar example but also the other tracks change so it takes a second or two for my ears to focus in. I would love to hear the differences in isolation. Most of us I would assume have never had the opportunity to mix or even hear these great consoles in action. So I really couldn't say they sound like the original. I know they sound good but with all of the options today and the great technology they all sound really good. I have all the Lindell and Bx versions and mostly it's a trial and error on which works best for what song. That's the fun of mixing really no two people will mix the same song the same.. Nice video...
@antcall6779
@antcall6779 Жыл бұрын
Great as always Joe!!!! Love your videos 🤘
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you friend!
@jirosaves_theworld
@jirosaves_theworld Жыл бұрын
glad i bought Lindell 69 (nice!) eventhough didn't touch it because i forget now i would tried it more in depth!!
@kingsponge
@kingsponge Жыл бұрын
Love those Joe! Love the Lindell 80 on Ac’s…
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@CrossingEternityOfficialTV
@CrossingEternityOfficialTV Жыл бұрын
API! That's where is the money in this song. Great mix btw!, as usual
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🎉
@gegloff1
@gegloff1 Жыл бұрын
I love Joe Carrell and his videos. The one he did with the SSL models was brilliant. This was another great one. So nice to have those comparisons and insight. However... As he readily admits, he dialed this mix in on the Helios, then duplicated the settings on the 50 and 80 series. So the Helios sounds the nicest (to Joe and to me at least). As of today 7/20/23, the Helios is $180, while the 80 and 50 are $40. I own all the PA consoles (and probably half the PA products) but I waited for every one to come down to sale price before jumping in. My advice. You don't NEED anything right this minute to make great music. Wait 6-12 months and the Helios will join the 29 or 39 dollar price point.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching !
@alexanderewing3779
@alexanderewing3779 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear Joe use different CS,s for different effects (oohey&gooey). Of course, this means I'll need to add the 69 to to my collection! Cheers Joe.
@maxuno8524
@maxuno8524 Жыл бұрын
The 80 has made itself at home in my chains... the soft clipping and the amp 🔥🔥🔥
@PluginAllianceTV
@PluginAllianceTV Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Shawneverette
@Shawneverette Жыл бұрын
Hey Joe question, my kids went to a studio with an API and the mix they got was very punchy and the sound had depth and was big. While there was some things I did not like, I did like the quality. Is that really possible to do In the box? I am trying to figure out how to get that sound. DO I need to have a specific converter and or what can hinder that type of quality ITB?
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Hey Shawn thank you for watching! I do love a real analog console without a doubt. BUT I think we do now have the tools ITB to give that same vibe convincingly enough that it is more about user preference to me. There are subtle differences but both are great in their own way and the end user will never know and care what we used as long as it’s great
@Shawneverette
@Shawneverette Жыл бұрын
Got You. One more quick question please. Do you use the Bus plugin on all your bus inputs from channels such as on on the drum bus, keys bus, vocal bus ect? Or would it just be on the stereo bus? While I know we can do it in the box and there are custom mixer builds, which would be faithful to most Neve or API configurations? Love your channel. Thanks for feeding us audio goodness.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
@@Shawneverette hey good question. I do use some type of transformer or tubulation on all my sub groups as well as the stereo bus! Whether it be the console pres or other saturation pieces like Black Box etc, I do add some texture most often
@Shawneverette
@Shawneverette Жыл бұрын
Thanks so very much
@carlasker9285
@carlasker9285 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Joe in terms of treating this parameters more agressively. Hardware units tend to impact the sound much more than software in general, and some console settings for various instruments were very drastic, but gave a lot of character. Don't be afraid to tweak those channel strips more than you'd think.
@pco2004
@pco2004 Жыл бұрын
API for punch and clarity. Use it for distorted guitars and drums a lot. Neve for vocals - it's so warm rich and round. Nice bottom and top. Haven't tried the Helios yet.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
If you are a fellow mega bundle owner try it!! It’s 🔥 Thank you for watching.
@TheRealCalijokes01
@TheRealCalijokes01 Жыл бұрын
great explanations hear everything you described great comparisons .the first one hellios I like the 80 series then second one,50 series on drums.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@aaroncampmusic
@aaroncampmusic Жыл бұрын
They all sounded great. 69 wins for me. Nice combo of clarity and richness/fatness. API was cool and had that clear solid sound but almost a little too separated for me. The Neve richness is so sweet, but almost too polite in this context. I tend to use one strip across a mix to get some commonality between the tones so that it adds up to a vibe. Thanks for the video!
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input Aaron. That 69 was soooo good
@Thirsty_Deer_Studio
@Thirsty_Deer_Studio Жыл бұрын
I use the Lindell 80 along with analog BAE pres on most tracks. But I recently got the API channel strip from UA and it's been nice experimenting on drums, bass, and electric. I want the Helios most of my favoriterecords were done on the Rolling Stones mobile truck, but I'll probably wait til it drops in price and can use my monthly code
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@MaxKili2177
@MaxKili2177 Жыл бұрын
API amazing on drums of course and great characteristic attack on the guitars, the Lindell 69 I could see it being used on something that as a raw mix needs help gluing it all together in a warm musical way, it also has a very musical eq, but for me the Lindell 80 is my winner. I’ve been mixing an album and have been using it on many tracks.. that nuke button does something so special and can be mixed dry/wet to get the perfect setting and I think it has the best top end of all 3 of these so it’s great on vocals, guitars and pretty much the whole rhythm section I mean you can put anything through a Neve 1073/1084 and it makes magic, it’s the tried and true of analog preamps. I’ve also found myself using the bx_focusrite SC channel strip a lot and love it. The Lindell SBC is a top notch compressor I use a lot as well, drums get absolutely massive using the nuke button on that! I got the all 2022 bundle rent to own a few months ago and it does not include the 69 series so I can’t justify spending $150 on it when I got hundreds of plugins for ~$5 each but still I’m so impressed with all of Plugin Alliance’s tools! I studied production at Berklee on mostly all stock plugins so this is like a whole new world to me! I did get the Neold U2A (obsessed with LA2A comps and I think this is the best PA has, great demo on that btw Joe) and the new Masterdesk pro during summer of sound with the monthly vouchers and those 2 are incredibleee! Thank You Joe!
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you Max 🎉
@rugososphotos3646
@rugososphotos3646 7 ай бұрын
helios: old school attitude, big, thick, loud neve: old school mellow, round, butter, smooth api: 80s/90s "clean" sound, cd sound, punchy, focused, sharp
@adamcoe
@adamcoe 2 ай бұрын
I was surprised to hear how much darker the Neve sounded on the full mix, vs when it was just on the guitar package, there was a lot of top end and air. Very interesting! I just got the big ass subscription so I now have all 3 of these and it's if anything a little overwhelming with all the choices. But what a great problem to have.
@Barncore
@Barncore Жыл бұрын
Descriptors that come to mind for me....... 1) Helios 69 = Prestigeous, Smooth, Glue 2) API 50 = Forward, Hard, In your face 3) Neve 80 = Tubby, Pillowy, Hairy
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Well done 👊🏼
@kelvynification
@kelvynification Жыл бұрын
Yup! Well put:)
@JohnSk82
@JohnSk82 Жыл бұрын
Love them , use them , always having the same excitement :P
@psychesonic1
@psychesonic1 Жыл бұрын
Fun was had.
@dopesnare
@dopesnare Жыл бұрын
Eye opening. Like you said, with this song Helios all day insert all adjectives. If "crisp" was a sound the API has it to me. Neve is a nice balance. I picked up on the the low end of a Neve in the last couple months and actually might not care for it for what I do but it can work.. Would you call SSL E,G, or J "transparent" compared to these?
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Not at all! That SSL midrange is aggressive punchy as - - - -..😂😂 I made a video of all the Brainworx SSL channels side by side. That one is great if you haven’t seen it. Not cause I’m great by the way, but because SSLs are 🔥🔥 thanks for watching!
@paulrucker1889
@paulrucker1889 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the middle of the video, I do love how you present analog style plugins. But it looks like around the 14:00 mark, the 80 has the high filter turned off.
@Bluelagoonstudios
@Bluelagoonstudios Жыл бұрын
I heard the Helios used transformers from 65% nickel, just like the Sound Techniques consoles. Back then. The Lindell 80 series are great to create a sound with beautiful grid and still have that great High End on top. Cool stuff. Even I'm an SSL guy. But on certain material I switch strips. Love the PA bundle!
@ErikAnders
@ErikAnders Жыл бұрын
you really turned me onto the api with this one
@dismalfist
@dismalfist 8 ай бұрын
I adore that 80 series. Gotta REALLY stay in control of the low end with it though; it enjoys serving up lashings of beef, and the problem is that tasty beef gets irresistible! Sound is beautiful though, it's not "tubby" but it's exquisitely vintage. Certainly a "Neve guy" myself though have the BX Amek 9099 and SSL strips which are very good, but I think with the Lindell 80 and 50 series here you'd be able to make basically anything sound amazing. The bus plugins also for that saturation flavour plus the TMT are a SUPERB addition. In fact with those two strips, a good graphic EQ for anything needing surgery, a decent bus comp and something in a limiter you'd have a wonderful home studio!
@monkmusic5994
@monkmusic5994 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review!
@PluginAllianceTV
@PluginAllianceTV Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@jameshyatt
@jameshyatt Жыл бұрын
@InTheMixJoeCarrell At 12:14 you accidentally left the Neve channel strip on for the kick during the demos for Helios and API!
@atmodiver
@atmodiver Жыл бұрын
always good speaker!Watch every your video! I love neve) High end is fluffy.Sorry for my bad Eng.With love from Crimea)
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@G-slinger
@G-slinger Жыл бұрын
Still prefer the Lindell 50 Series for rock styles. I run it on every track. EQ is forgiving. Less work on the 2bus. The ‘69 is still a ?
@MrRadioMusic
@MrRadioMusic Жыл бұрын
You don't have the high end EQ 'on' with the 80 series on drum overheads.
@zonarecordingstudio
@zonarecordingstudio Жыл бұрын
Are the plug -ins running of a HDX card?
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
I do have and HDX card yes. But those are all in native mode. Thanks for watching ✌🏼
@sdiazmun
@sdiazmun Жыл бұрын
I thought I saw that the Lindell 80 high shelving band is in "off" position 🤔. For example in 13:52
@oldsoulsound
@oldsoulsound Жыл бұрын
Loved this Joe. Need to pick up the Helios. Curious what the BUS compressors on the ends are contributing.
@PluginAllianceTV
@PluginAllianceTV Жыл бұрын
Cool, let us know how it works for you!
@albertoluciani8705
@albertoluciani8705 Жыл бұрын
I used to only use the 4ke, but lately you would find the 50 on my drums and guitars
@ianhenkel7157
@ianhenkel7157 Жыл бұрын
I think the hi end jumped bc you have the 1st plugin high on 10 and the api has its mid band on 10 as well? they aren't flat when you 1st engaged?
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
I don’t think I understand the question however, they are all set as similar as possible and their frequency choices and boost amounts
@RemcoJvGrevenbroek
@RemcoJvGrevenbroek 11 ай бұрын
To my ears rhe api souded the best. Not that the others did not not sound good. I like that api "colour:
@murraywebster1228
@murraywebster1228 Жыл бұрын
How about chaining the Helios into 69, or vice-versa to get the best of both worlds???
@JohnFraserFindlay
@JohnFraserFindlay Жыл бұрын
Wondering why the Amek doesn’t have a bus channel?
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
That’s not Lindell…maybe that’s why. Not sure though to be honest. Thanks for watching ✌🏼✌🏼
@JohnFraserFindlay
@JohnFraserFindlay Жыл бұрын
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell oh right! thats BRainworx sold by PA! I have 50 & 80 now will get the 69 Helios! Great demo Joe. Thanks alot!
@carlasker9285
@carlasker9285 Жыл бұрын
The 50 sounds like american rock to me. I will be using it for mixing a glam metal band soon. The gate and EQ and guitar, the preamp and comp on the bass and drums - this thing just brings the sauce of the american 80's.
@PluginAllianceTV
@PluginAllianceTV Жыл бұрын
Cheers and enjoy your sessions!
@NickScottProducer
@NickScottProducer Жыл бұрын
That snare drum is louuuuuuud
@rednaxresom
@rednaxresom Жыл бұрын
"Here's the track in its raw form, as recorded"....proceeds to play track with a 100% sample-replaced kick and a heavily sample-reinforced snare 😂
@philburns5656
@philburns5656 Жыл бұрын
Unlike mixing on a real console, we can of course select one console plugin per channel. So let's say, I want to feature a rhythm guitar, I might take the Lindell 50 here. But I might push back the organ with a Lindell 69. Have you guys negative had negative experience in combining different console plugins within a mix? And if so, what is negative about it?
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Never anything negative whatsoever. I do it all the time and it’s a BLAST!
@TimmBieryMusic
@TimmBieryMusic Жыл бұрын
Too much talking, examples not long enough. I love the Lindell stuff and I've worked on a Helios many times in the past. The 69 is a great recreation. Maybe we'll hear more of it next time around.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Just FF to 19:38 if you don’t want the product descriptions and discussions. All three consoles back to back to back to back to back to back. Enjoy Timm ✌🏼✌🏼
@Setsuw16Chen641
@Setsuw16Chen641 Жыл бұрын
很棒的東西 🙂 👍
@PluginAllianceTV
@PluginAllianceTV Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Setsuw16Chen641
@Setsuw16Chen641 Жыл бұрын
@@PluginAllianceTV Mmm you're welcome! 👍😁
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@evanh75
@evanh75 Жыл бұрын
14:00 hi shelf is off.
@damondharper7966
@damondharper7966 Жыл бұрын
I was about to give you 8 thumbs down, then I realized I turned the playback speed down on an earlier video 😂😂😂…yeah it beautiful after I fixed that 😂😂
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Thanks for watching Damon.
@FromTheHipp
@FromTheHipp Жыл бұрын
how have you guys not recruited "mixing with mike" to do videos like this. companies make the weirdest oversights.
@TheGoatBeats
@TheGoatBeats Жыл бұрын
Mike is a league by himself.
@FromTheHipp
@FromTheHipp Жыл бұрын
@@TheGoatBeats dont disagree. but the knowledge and experience has is so good that a company like this could only benefit from having him showcase and explain their products.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
I really this guy personally 👊🏼✌🏼
@FromTheHipp
@FromTheHipp Жыл бұрын
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell oh no i like this in the mix joe carrell guy as well. youre amazing lol. i love your andrew masters studio tours, both of them. and i'd even love to work with you some day. im just saying that PA could also add mix with mike to their roster of great engineers to explain their products.
@FromTheHipp
@FromTheHipp Жыл бұрын
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell its also a nice touch to see you on the produce like a pro episode that just got uploaded. the man is out here working hard.
@ShadowsofSmoke
@ShadowsofSmoke Жыл бұрын
Nice comparisons, but how about in practice.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
That’s a real world example of just how different each circuit sounds when set the same. So in every day work, you can use that knowledge to craft a mix that has desired outcome. Best wishes!!!
@peterpeper4837
@peterpeper4837 Жыл бұрын
I love all your videos and what you do and what I'm going to say is with lots of respect and the knowledge of ergonomics. The monitor is too far from you for its size and too high. I can see that also on your neck in this side view video. Bring it to where the lexicon larc is, that would be closer and lower. You want your eyesight when you look straight to be horizontal with the top part of the monitor that is also a bit tilted to be vertical to your sight. Your head remains straight and only your eyes move a bit downwards. The distance depends on the size of the monitor. In the worst case that has to stay there, get a bigger monitor. I doubt it will make a difference to the Yamahas.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Peter 🎉
@silly8395
@silly8395 11 ай бұрын
69, warmth no excessive high end 50 , most high end but too much of it for my taste for that music that you've had 80, little muddy, too little top end but ...then ...all this can/will be changed by mastering....so it really depends all in all great job....maybe you should do more of that switching between consoles, on different styles,....and like you've said,...maybe less talking :)
@mikesparks3398
@mikesparks3398 4 ай бұрын
Lindell 80 sounded best to me…however over an IPad!
@mikesparks3398
@mikesparks3398 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t like the API at all..lol till the end and everything was together..it sounded great!
@אפיאליאב
@אפיאליאב Жыл бұрын
BIG LIKE FROM "ISRAEL: !!
@dylanmenzies3973
@dylanmenzies3973 22 күн бұрын
too much talking not enough A-B. Should A-B over looped section. 80 has the most overall usefulness for me - 50 is too in your face, 69 is too swamp
@sergelaporte4295
@sergelaporte4295 Жыл бұрын
For whatever reason, the API to me sounds ''plastic'.. as in manipulated, artificial... it takes my focus away from the vibe and the parts. of your fine track. In the proper context, i guess that could work but the Helios: sonic caramel as the Nieve. Desert island strip: Helios.
@G-slinger
@G-slinger Жыл бұрын
There’s no wrong answer since we all hear differently. The 50 Series on a big dense rock mix plays nicely on the 2bus and has never sounded fake or plastic, especially with API type pre circuits. I really want to like the Helios type ‘69 flavors but I’m just not hearing it the same way others have described it. I also enjoy most of the music made on real Helios Consoles. Maybe I will give it a shot when it goes on sale. Remixing something with demo plugins is too time consuming.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@InTheMixJoeCarrell Жыл бұрын
Correct it’s pushed too hard to match the setting that worked on the Helios. But dialed in specifically on the 50 it’s great for punch and clarity. Thanks for watching man
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 Жыл бұрын
The API was upping the impact of the drums here at the expense of the keys and other rhythm parts losing a lot of their space and size.
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