Council members reunited after Handforth Zoom argument goes viral

[@estelleaeon]

READ THE STANDING ORDERS READ THEM AND UNDERSTAND THEM

[@WestonObermeyer]

these would be some fire metal lyrics

[@josi4251]

@@WestonObermeyer Let's start a band named Handforth Parish Council. I'll dress as Jackie Weaver and kick out group members. Can sing a bit as well.

[@WestonObermeyer]

@@josi4251 yes lol, lets do it

[@kingcurry6594]

The problem with most people commenting on here is that they do not understand that Jackie Weaver had absolutely no authority in that meeting. She was appointed as an advisor, not Chair or even clerk. Only the Chair can remove someone from a meeting and then only after a vote to exclude the person by members. The official inquiry found that actually, Jackie Weaver was the one at fault.

[@lucas411_]

Wasn’t the argument made that the chair had specifically stated that the meeting hadn’t started, therefore those rules didn’t apply and technically they were just a bunch of people in a zoom call in which Jackie Weaver was the host and could have removed anyone she liked.

[@kingcurry6594]

@@lucas411_ Yes, but it also illegal to obstruct a council member from attending a meeting.

[@lucas411_]

@@kingcurry6594 Could you argue the fact that she only put them in the waiting room and asked if they wanted to return but they didnt reply, so she didn’t technically obstruct them from attending? (Also im not disagreeing with you necessarily, im just genuinely asking questions to better understand the situation and the law)

[@kingcurry6594]

@@lucas411_ She started the meeting with the Chair in the waiting room as she excluded him before the meeting started - so he was not in the meeting at the start. She then asked members to elect a new Chair - but if the Chair is not there, the vice-Chair takes over. When this was pointed out to her, she chucked the vice-Chair out. She then asked other councillors if they wanted to readmit them. That is not in line with standing orders and therefore illegal. Her handling of the whole meeting was completely shocking to anyone with a knowledge of Local Government

[@lucas411_]

@@kingcurry6594 interesting, thank you!

[@christopherthorkon3997]

Why does this strange video make Jackie Weaver a saint? She had no authority to throw people out of the meeting.

[@Obi1-KenBone-Me]

she did have the authority

[@citizen1l]

​@@Obi1-KenBone-Methe standing orders state the chairman may only be removed by votes

[@TuffyUK]

@@Obi1-KenBone-Me wrong

[@Nubia567]

no authority at all 😂

[@Geemilli19]

I think someone forgot Jackie Weaver is now to be known by the name Britney Spears!!

[@pepperboys9572]

Lady at 02:47 - defending "Mr Burkhill". As a resident of Handforth for around 18 years, I can't remember ONE positive thing he has done. Since his election as Mayor and then changing the rules so that he could remain as Councillor for Handforth, he has done nothing but Object to motions put forward for the people of Handforth. He was also instrumental in REDUCING the maximum grant amount of the council from 1000 to 500. This is applied for by local groups that need funding for local projects. (PS the Standing Orders still say 1000). I guess the self disqualification clock has now started for both Mr Burkhill and Mr Brewerton, as neither officially offered apologies for this meeting, with Mr Tolver making an excuse for Mr Burkhill not attending, not actually reading a formal notice of apologies. Cheshire East Council also showed their ineffectiveness today, when the motion of No Confidence was deferred to the Standards Committee, with no date being set for that meeting.

[@worldisfucked]

tbh don’t think she had a clue and just saw the camera n wanted to get on TV

[@BossySwan]

Cheshire East and the environs

[@videogamenostalgia]

Plus he has very sinister eyebrows, which alone should disqualify him from any sort of leadership position.

[@weirdloverwilde]

Woah the tea has been spilled ☕️

[@emil2321]

The guitar man who said "quiet rightly" is forever a legend.

[@monkeychu420]

Rob Halford

[@cem330]

​@@monkeychu420😂😂😂

[@ClassicJohnno]

this video makes out like Jackie Weaver wasn't in the wrong?

[@beenis9842]

i mean you could tell in that original video that we were seeing the culmination of many previous conflicts between these people. we'll never really know what the whole story is but the probability that these guys just consistently act like retards and we just got her hammer dropping moment is not low at all

[@RailVisionaries]

she was 100% in the wrong. She had no authority to kick them out.

[@therocketboost]

Person brought in as tech support oversteps their bounds by booting people out of a council meeting despite having no right to do so, then starts booting the people who called them out for doing so. Don't get me wrong, the whole council acted like plonkers but Weaver was not the person to take that action, subverting the activities of a locally elected body.

[@jayswain6002]

Thank god she did

[@leont7956]

most of the council were ok, it was just the chairman hadn't been doing his job properly and aled who were plonkers

[@sunyue5076]

Before you throw in your comment, read them and understand them!

[@PinkDiamond7777777]

​@@sunyue5076 😂

[@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1]

I want to know when the UN Security Council will get involved?

[@eddouglas]

Yeah but the point is did she actually have the right to eject people from a meeting because if not, shes an unelected administrator that is silencing elected members of a local community...how tf is she a hero, shes a fascist isnt it?

[@jrburger95]

Yeah she had no authority to do that, she's a villian.

[@porridge6118]

@@jrburger95 W comment

[@TheIncognitusMe]

You people need to stop using the word fascist.

[@cathalk3903]

"You have no authority here Jackie Weaver." Jackie: "lol kick button go brrr"

[@RobK32]

Go what?

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

​@@RobK32 I know a ship called a gobrr, but it's also not the 14th century anymore so I don't think they are referencing that.

[@WitchKing-Of-Angmar]

​@@RobK32 I know a ship called a gobrr, but it's also not the 14th century anymore so I don't think they are referencing that.

[@Dbdbe1]

All those criticising her never comment on the background to this meeting, admit the abysmal behaviour of Tolver, Brewerton, and Burkhill, still less say what they would have done to ameliorate the situation.

[@kazuhirala]

That’s strange I thought her name was Britney Spears

[@AGSBraintoast]

She was in the wrong about some things tho, the STANDING ORDERS specify that councillors cannot be ejected from a meeting unless there is a majority vote. Jackie Weaver is an average holier than thou, self righteous lady who soaks in her administrative position, she might as well be a despotic community moderator.

[@snottylottie]

lool who cares she's hilarious get over it

[@ninaj6051]

There was news on the way the investigations turned out. They affirmed what you wrote, but were sympathetic toward her and that her reaction was understandable.

[@kingcurry6594]

And, if the Chair is not present, the vice-Chair automatically takes over.

[@kingcurry6594]

@@snottylottie I care, because I am Chair of a parish council and it is vital that rules are followed or else illegal decisions are made.

[@danjames4086]

​​@@kingcurry6594 Unless of course he is posessed by the spirit of Gollum.mid meeting, then you have a problem.

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

Barry Burkhill resigned, as did Brian Tolver and Aled Brewerton. Barry Burkhill sadly passed away from cancer in November 2022.

[@GittingGud1]

He received his standing orders from God. Rest in peace Barry Burkhill.

[@user-lb9ew4hr4z]

Aled was the real goat

[@si45megamera]

Rip😢

[@TheIncognitusMe]

Bunch of silly clowns who embarrassed themselves.

[@matthewlee8725]

I loved the part where the council members were reunited.

[@MightySheep]

How has channel 4 managed to come to the exact opposite conclusion about this series events as literally everyone else? Do you not understand that she is just some random woman who got the tiniest bit of power (control over a zoom call) and it went straight to her head...

[@TheIncognitusMe]

Not a single person thinks Jackie Weaver was in the wrong, though. Everyone on planet Earth is making fun of the 3 living corpses who are obsessed with their absolutely paltry power granted by being on the board. Jackie Weaver embarrassed them for acting like children.

[@wenblue1753]

You say Jackie Weaver was invited, as a trouble shooter, as I understand it, that is more like a moderator and she did it very poorly. She is meant to be skilled to diffuse heated debates. She is not elected by the Parish. I agree with the Chairman insofar as she does not have the authority to cast a vote. Jackie was not authorised to unilaterally remove. I agree with the Vice Chair. She did an appalling job. It was so embarrassing. They should be embarrassed about themselves.

[@MJ18888]

Weaver Fever!

[@PrinxPerry]

👍🏾 Someone liked your comment: Weaver fever!

[@respknloyal4992]

First thing that comes to my mind is that ZOOM is growing rapidly

[@bhattasourish2]

jackie is good at playing the "i am a woman" card

[@maxworth4687]

So it's ok that she violated procedure because she was calm? What empty and vacuous respectability politics.

[@CHRISTSPIRACY.comJESUSwasVegan]

its because she serves the suppression of free speech and the nwo agenda

[@TheAnonyy]

Exactly she was there to clerk the meeting which is a silent job document actions at thr meeting they have no powers, she should have been ejected as she has no authority to so anything and kept interrupting the chairman which is ill-mannered of her.

[@barnabas5688]

Is that you councillor burkhill?!!

[@TheAnonyy]

@@barnabas5688 maybe you are Burkhill

[@porridge6118]

W

[@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1]

In this age of equality and diversity I don't see what being a woman has got to do with it?

[@mckernan603]

John Smith is my hero

[@Drquibble]

Handforth Council Should name a road after her called Weaver Way

[@johnvonhorn2942]

Should we tread such a path we might be led into temptation. I'd love to willy Jackie Weaver.

[@trishadennis5440]

Ha now its official that she was in the wrong.......

[@toxendon]

How?

[@Radocruz]

How so?

[@mayzerify5525]

@@Radocruz Jackie Weaver had absolutely no authority in that meeting. She was appointed as an advisor, not Chair or even clerk. Only the Chair can remove someone from a meeting and then only after a vote to exclude the person by members. The official inquiry found that actually, Jackie Weaver was the one at fault.

[@si45megamera]

She was based asf

[@sofnaji]

Liz Wardlow sounds like a scripted robot giving her statement

[@lloyddyer1829]

Wow... I thought she was the one showing bullying, dictatorship-like behaviour and dealt with the situation terribly, but you never know the whole story...

[@porridge6118]

L

[@danjames4086]

I think the wider story is that she was asked to attend by some of the more moderate members, due to poor behaviour of a select few of these people.

[@Dbdbe1]

Yes the whole story was the abysmal behaviour of Tolver, Brewerton, and Burkhill. Do more research next time

[@urdarlingalien]

Jackie Weaver may have had zero authority there but she slayed.

[@johnvaleanbaily246]

So, what right did Jackie Weaver have to evict. If she's not the chair how does that work... or is this just a slow news week...

[@TheIncognitusMe]

All 3 of the annoying old guys on the council resigned for being embarrassments.

[@MKOFT3N]

Jackie is not the hero of our story

[@TracyLynnMcIntosh]

I wouldn’t glorify their behaviour They are all embarrassing

[@completelystupid_10]

I mean realistically with that tie he was always gonna go on strictly

[@BossySwan]

Channel 4 has the authority

[@BOUND-Studio]

I’m confused how she’s a hero

[@Drquibble]

Jackie Weaver has a westie she's even more fantastic than I thought

[@Dream_Weapon]

Jackie is the baddie. Or was I the only one that thought that?

[@CHRISTSPIRACY.comJESUSwasVegan]

no anyone with a reasonable mind would

[@xtraspecialmango]

You're a Tory, ain't you!? 😂

[@Dream_Weapon]

@@xtraspecialmango You're jokin' right?

[@undashingcodyrhodes1985]

Jackie did not read the standing orders. She did not read them and understand them! She was the baddie all along. She couldn't kick out councillors without a majority vote yet she still did which is illegal under Standing Order 10. She most certainly was the baddie and Aled Brewerton and Aled Senior were the goodies.

[@Dbdbe1]

@@undashingcodyrhodes1985so you’re ignoring their appalling previous behaviour and his lies about the high court. Fool

[@db9631]

Pretty sure a council meeting like this pre-empted the invasion of Poland.

[@TheEternalOuroboros]

"Sterling work" 🤣

[@May-gr8bp]

Jackie Weaver had no authority at all. Peter Moore is my favourite.

[@TheIncognitusMe]

She had some authority. But the important part is that the 3 old annoying dudes resigned, because what they did was embarrassing.

[@alelectric2767]

Something to do about nothing.

[@LordUzaki]

Tech Support for elderly town council goes on a power trip, takes control of a council meeting, and boots the chairman and other council members as she pleases. The uninformed public somehow supports this. The rest of the world laughs at the town.

[@hillehai]

But women can do no wrong. Didn't you get the memo?

[@savannahrosedigitalillustr1946]

hahaha, my god lloyd webber must be bored to join in the meming of jackie weaver.

[@digitalmediafan]

She reminds me of Rosemary Shrager

[@Death-999]

The video was like when a karen discord mod thinks they have power.

[@hillehai]

Jackie seems like a typical narcissistic Karen, not gonna lie.

[@FTCLASSI]

JW should be forced to resign

[@TheIncognitusMe]

Spoiler: the 3 annoying guys resigned because what they did was shameful.

[@JacquesvanWyk]

If you see news making the woman the victim you know she has been wrong lol.

[@ernesthimself]

Bunch of busy bodies.

[@onetwothreefourfive12345]

Jackie Weaver was incompetent. Deal with it.

[@davidbrown5628]

Haha 'blink and you miss it' 😅

[@alzon5712]

Why did jakie keep interupting the chair though whilst he was trying to talk, she acted as an antagonist

[@porridge6118]

W

[@TheIncognitusMe]

She acted as an antagonist because she was literally called to oversee the meeting because of these 3 megalomaniacs. That's the story here. This is 1 episode of a much larger show, and it ends with the 3 men resigning out of embarrassment.

[@PinkDiamond7777777]

Carrie Hope Fletcher's involved? 😀

[@EdwardAu]

Jackie Weaver rules!

[@Alex__Al]

Another national hero created by media.

[@chrisprout8115]

This woman is crazy.

[@orange1599-u1n]

No to vaccine passports, disgraceful. Sign the parliament petition.

[@antonalbo]

How does an admin get to decide who gets to participate in a Council meeting - I agree with the Councillors who were saying she had no authority to decide who would get to discuss Council business...

[@C.Church]

I want to see the play... just no singing though.

[@shizukagozen777]

Why is everyone praising Jackie the little dictator ? People are nuts...

[@tomr5785]

In an unlikely coincidence, news has emerged that Cllr Liz Wardlow and Empress-of-the-purple-rinse Jackie Weaver both share the middle name Karen. True story.

[@fatrat2017]

all hail queen jackie!!!

[@Wibtlol]

Only the media or women could watch this and think Jackie was in the right. It was found she had no right to remove others.

[@RB98r]

jackie needs to go. end of.

[@Chris-kv4vl]

Weaver didn't overstep at all. If the Chairman officiates meetings and said this wasn't an official council meeting then it's just a Zoom call and therefore Weaver can do what she likes.

[@21kiwi24]

But then it started. Don't defend her.

[@weirdloverwilde]

@@21kiwi24 TEAM JACKIE (WEAVER)

[@bestintentions6089]

Ah yes menopausal women

[@louiseconroy9140]

Jackie is great....😁

[@porridge6118]

L