Ten years after Scottish independence referendum - has anything changed?

[@StozySco]

Has anything changed? Yes, almost everything has got worse and that is as part of the UK.

[@ruxiist]

And leaving would've fixed all the issues that Scotland faces? Look at richer countries Germany, France etc who are grappling with the same issues as the UK. There is no magic bullet to fixing structural issues despite what nationalism and easy narratives may say.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@ruxiist remember it’s the Scottish companies the English are now emergency taxing They would all come under Scottish taxes not English had we left the uk England living of the taxes of Scottish oil and gas today still

[@penultimateh766]

@@graemeroberts7367 How is this oil and gas "Scottish"? Like China making a cheap grab for the Spratlys,

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@penultimateh766 because legally it’s in Scottish waters That’s how these things work Bless imagine being so ignorant of facts you don’t understand basic borders 😂 😂 that even your own government admits too But hey a fool on KZbin doesn’t understand basic facts

[@graemeroberts7367]

@lynxonyx-w3j aww bless look how lost the wee man is So desperate to prove his unions important to Scot’s that you deny what your own unionist government admits 😂 Pure desperation from the pig ignorant unionist It’s no wonder there are less than 18% of Scot’s that follow you clowns

[@Colin-px6il]

Can’t blame anyone wanting get away from our corrupt Westminster arseholes.

[@slipperydouglas8263]

It really is as simple as this.

[@steveroberts9453]

Would be nice if the English could get away from them too.

[@penultimateh766]

I guess your Scottish PMs are too weak or lazy to hold office themselves.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@steveroberts9453 😂 the English are the ones that elect the parliament Sadly England makes these choices willingly Remember the English public elected the party of unionism for every election bar three in 6 decades after they admitted to using and protecting over 100 pea do MPs and the English public said yes those are my people for near 6 decades and have somehow convinced themselves that a man who was a member of that party during the pea do MP years in somehow the saviour

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@penultimateh766 😂 😂 😂 you really are desperate eh 😂 Have you been listening to your people in Northern Ireland who are preparing unionism to accept the end of the union as it’s now inevitable 😂 as the number of unionists uk wide has plummeted

[@Albawarrior]

Divided as a country forever nothing will change

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@Albawarrior Scotland was divided before the snp The snp didn’t cause the division the union did and always has divided Scot’s

[@Albawarrior]

@@graemeroberts7367 aye I know that I was just saying, but that’s what I meant 🤷‍♂️✌️

[@graemeroberts7367]

@lynxonyx-w3j aww bless you think half of Scotland is Irish yet in reality half is Scottish and the other half are English wannabes Remember that’s what you stand for The people that elected the party who admitted to protecting and supporting over 100 pea do MPs and you thought yep that’s the party for me because they fly a union flag

[@deejannemeiurffnicht1791]

So, you've not changed?

[@alexanderbaronatte3252]

Support from Croatia from the regime of the UK. Long live Scotland!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🇭🇷

[@graemeroberts7367]

@lynxonyx-w3j aww bless look how upset the wee lying English wannabe is by the fact most of the world supports Scotland not the uk

[@graemeroberts7367]

@lynxonyx-w3j and against the wishes of the Scottish people Learn facts not a unionists rewriting of history 😂 Are you one of these unionists obsessed with braveheart because it shows unionists as the enemy of Scot’s and how they always have been

[@graemeroberts7367]

@lynxonyx-w3j yet opposed by the people at the time Strange how unionists don’t like that fact

[@graemeroberts7367]

@lynxonyx-w3j it wasn’t created by Scotland Again this is why unionism is dying a slow painful death 😂 because you guys still live in this fantasy world where Scotland wasn’t under military occupation for the first 150 years of the union with our language dress and music outlawed by death 😂 😂 but it was all friendly according to the traitors of Scotland and her people. You guys really do hate braveheart eh 😂 because it portrays you to a tee for what you are and always will be Scotlands enemy

[@jon-f7u]

What a stupid argument Joining the EU was reversed by a referendum The awful Union of the UK can be reversed As if 300 year old decisions have to be followed centuries later??? 🤣🤣🤣

[@genkisudo5999]

As a proud Scotsman 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 this is one of my favourite films. It’s an important reminder of why we need independence from the English who have made slaves of my people and continue to do so through their corrupt channels and oppressive political structures. We will keeping fighting, keep hating until we have defeated them! As we say in Scotland - there is no such thing as a good Englishman!

[@genkisudo5999]

You’re definitely speaking true facts 🔥 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 and the only reason England is well off is because they drain Scotland like a vampire. Once we get our freedom we will be a power rich and independent country. As a true Scotsman i hate the English from the bottom of my heart but its my only hope to see my Scots (every single Scottish person is a good person) free from the tyranny of English rule. FREEDOM!!!!!!!

[@andrewelphick2304]

Ironically it’s people like you that will ensure independence never happens. Your impotent rage amuses me. Dance for me.

[@Miel_ync]

I consider to live in scotland in a few years (I'm 25 years old now). Is scotland safe ?

[@worldtv5848]

scotl

[@graemeroberts7367]

@lynxonyx-w3j 😂 😂 😂 your ignorant of any actual history Scotland was never in anyway bankrupt But this is the ignorance of a British nationalist

[@Jackoking_2007]

If Scotland was independent before it will again at some point in the future. Even if centuries have passed from present day.

[@wklim2201]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Supporter for Scotland should independence from awful UK. I wished can voted YES for independence of Scotland from East London.

[@Christian_Bagger]

10 years ago I thought it would be a shame, and hard to see how that could make an overall improvement. It seemed like emotional porn. 10 years later and it totally makes sense. England right now is an absolute mess.. and after opting out on an economic union, there’s people now starving in the UK. It’s mad. At this point everyone in the UK is better off without England… except for Wales because they’ve no independent infrastructure.

[@Detectoristgold]

Nicola Sturgeon never had any intention on delivering independence :-/

[@AnthonyAfrikaans]

Good… why would you want to f not only yourself but everyone else in the UK? If Brexit is the equivalent of sewing up a gash, Independence is the equivalent of brain surgery being performed by a Barbary Ape. There’s no benefit and only magical projections about things that’ll never happen. You think Westminster’s incompetent? The executive will smash your bawls harder than London by 10 fold.

[@mattthetoadlicker]

Precisely. She was only interested in plunging her nose repeatedly into the Westminster trough.

[@chriswinter6672]

No, because then should would've had no one to blame at Westminster.

[@2msvalkyrie529]

After 12 years the SNP still unable to answer even the most basic questions about Currency , Pensions , Customs , Immigration , Border controls etc .. THAT's why they were given the boot. ..Well , that and their mind numbing incompetence and inability to run a whelk stall.....😂😂😂

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@2msvalkyrie529 given the boot? They are still in charge of Scotland so haven’t been given the boot Sadly this is unionism to a tee just bs themselves until they believe their own bs

[@Cool2BCeltic]

Agree with you but they haven't yet been given the boot. They are still in office.

[@makeitsonumberone1358]

You forgot, what is a woman?

[@alastairorr6318]

@@Cool2BCeltic LOST 39 MP's in July. Time to END devolution completely and return FULL power to Westminster permanently, forever. Then demolish Holyrood or turn it into a homeless, drug rehabilitation or community hub, would do far more good than the useless bunch of squatters, the MSP's.

[@IreZico]

@@alastairorr6318 in the uk referendum not scottish referendum.

[@morrisonltop]

Yes then . Yes even more now . Energy bills alone should be enough to get us away .

[@Doughboy842]

And you think it'd be any better under an independent Scotland?

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@Doughboy842 yes as we’d be in charge It’s easy to see why the English are now fleeing England in record numbers

[@morrisonltop]

@@Doughboy842 considering we generate a high percentage of the UK's current energy. And it goes down south before being sold back to us ....yes I think cutting out that middle step could save us a lot of money. Octopus energys CEO actually said we would have the cheapest bills in Europe.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@Doughboy842 😂 who do you think paid to keep your bills low? Oh that’s right the taxes from Scottish companies 😂 😂 😂

[@tt-vu3oz]

Not if the people have anything to do with it.

[@graemeroberts7367]

Strange as 52% of Scot’s voted to leave the uk with immigration saving the union only

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@tt-vu3oz is that the Scottish people that voted to leave the uk in 2014 When the union was saved by immigration 🤷 Remember unionism has very few members in Scotland with even the orange order stating unionism is a minority want in Scotland and always has been

[@hondo1650]

Not with those corrupt chancers

[@Aklith]

@@hondo1650 the labour or Tory version?

[@hondo1650]

@Aklith just as bad. Corrupt to the core

[@Behindstage]

Scot’s by majority never wanted to leave the uk,there is no good economic argument to leave the uk economy,there never has been.

[@lindsaybruce1396]

And how much economics have you studied? The Austrian, Chicago schools? What books are on your shelf?

[@IreZico]

Wrong, the scots were half and half however the lies that swayed was being told if we became independent we leave the eu, if we remain then we remain in it, and we see how all of that turned out.

[@Behindstage]

@@lindsaybruce1396 you lost the referendum I presume.

[@Behindstage]

@@IreZicoif you voted yes,that was a vote to leave the eu. Scotland never voted to leave the uk or the eu.

[@JonoPS]

What's the economic argument for remaining in the UK?

[@alst4817]

Jesus those ‘young people’ look a bit haggard after 10 years! Looks like they’re fifty😂

[@alexdunn8574]

No , just look at the situation that they did and the state of the country when ms Sturgeon was in charge ,she was a total numpty

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@alexdunn8574 says the people that ran the 2 worst governments in the uk 😂 😂 whilst the snp ran the best performing according to official papers in Westminster

[@Flowlimit]

As someone who is not Scottish but has studied the history of politics in Scotland, it's clear to me that Scotland is treated as a junior partner by Westminster, with its voice often ignored and its resources exploited. Despite contributing heavily to the UK economy through North Sea oil and renewable energy, decisions about Scotland’s wealth and future are made in London. Major policies like Brexit and austerity were imposed on Scotland, despite the Scottish people rejecting them. The UK government also refuses a second independence referendum, denying Scotland the right to self-determination. Independence is the only way for Scotland to control its resources, shape policies that reflect its progressive values and ensure its wealth benefits its people.

[@hghyfyfiugou4448]

It's a shame that someone who is not Scottish can see this, and at least half of the Scottish population can't.

[@2msvalkyrie529]

Hmm....the Scottish people may have rejected Brexit and austerity but not by as wide a margin as they rejected the SNP at last elections .!! 48 seats to 9....!! 😂😂 Maybe you should " study " a bit harder..?

[@Carrera-gp9od]

Sturgeon and her cohorts are extreme left wing nutters . Hopefully she will be jailed and placed in a cell with one of her ladyboys .

[@wulfhere83]

Scotland is part of the UK. Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland are just places, they aren't countries for any official purposes you'll see this whenever you fill out a form. Scotland has no more power than England or the county of Leicestershire. The United Kingdom is the country and we're all together forever.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@2msvalkyrie529 strange as the people of Scotland rejected Brexit by 62% remain to 38% leave That’s a lot higher than the 52% that voted to stay in the uk

[@JohnHaveaguessGoogle]

The question is...Will Scotland ever gain a braincell???...or just more motor homes?

[@slipperydouglas8263]

Judging by your use of grammar, you could do with acquiring one yourself.

[@JohnHaveaguessGoogle]

@@slipperydouglas8263 you're offended by my grammar? Then feel free to report me to rhe tweet police.

[@slipperydouglas8263]

@@JohnHaveaguessGoogle I’m no a grass.

[@mmcc5846]

John heaves is that why you English are drinking and washing sewage water

[@Bangladeshi_People]

Scotland should be an independent country

[@undesignated3491]

As an Englishman I'd say leave and save yourselves, when I cross the border on that long motorway drive I can feel England and it's not a good feeling coming back here.

[@graemeroberts7367]

See when you cross in to Scotland and then think about having to go back south Just remember that’s a choice you make 😂 we’d happily accept you here as one of us so next time you have to head back across the border remember that Scot’s would name you an honorary Scot the minute you moved here. Scotland needs good people with the right mindset of improving Scotland for the people

[@TheoPeace3228]

Why does Scotland need to be independent. It is an equal partner in an act of union. The problem is that she needs to be treated as one.

[@graemeroberts7367]

Equal parter? So we didn’t Brexit when Scot’s rejected it by 62%? 10% more than England voted to leave? Did Scotland get to stay on the single market like Northern Ireland? That’s what we as a nation asked of the “equal partnership 🤷‍♂️ Didn’t unionists pm admit that Scotland isn’t an equal partner in the union?

[@mmcc5846]

Theo peace another Muppet that can't count

[@boomerhgt]

Sturgeon is a complete clown SNP are the worst thing thats happened to Scotland in my lifetime.

[@flemwad]

Exactly

[@dec3142]

😂 no where near as bad as the conservatives. England is a sh*t hole.

[@grww4056]

A divisive dictator. Her complete control of the public and business during the pandemic being the perfect example.

[@Aklith]

this is a classic missing of the entire point from someone who clearly wants Scotland to remain in the UK - conflating individual politicians and parties with fundamental constitutional structures. Your average Scot would be more free, happier and better off like other independent European nation states of equal size. That was true in 2014, it's even more true now (thanks Brexit).

[@IreZico]

@@boomerhgt they have had their bad moments but not the worst thing to happen.

[@RD-ox3ce]

Ram it The SNP attempt to Govern Scotland failed miserably, everything they touched turned to shite.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@RD-ox3ce says the unionists that ran the two worst governments in the uk according to Westminster 😂 😂

[@eckie4679]

Look how well the Tories and now Labour are running WM. If we kept our own revenues we could fix things - and England would be far better off too allegedly 🙄

[@bear1245]

@@RD-ox3ce fraudy salmon

[@alanwood4968]

@@graemeroberts7367 Why don` you face facts first then when Scotland is running itself properly then go after independence but you never will.

[@mgytitanic1912]

@@eckie4679 Given how much of Scotland was run by the SNP, which was nearly all of it, what has happened? Failing schools. Failing Infrastructure. Failing NHS. All of that run from Holyrood. And what does the SNP say? It's all Westminsters fault. None of that is run by Westminster. The SNP couldn't run a bath. If you want independence, then fucking do it. I'm sick and tired of the constant moaning from ingrates like you.

[@scotmacc]

10 years of hatred and division from Salmond/Sturgeon. Both are addicted to power and control.

[@Thegobstopper61]

Can you tell me how many people have died or been murdered due to the independence campaign.

[@Aklith]

No types loves to spin up this 'divisive' rhetoric but never actually have anything that backs up the claim. It's politics, people disagree. It's no more 'divisive' than a general election.

[@graemeroberts7367]

10 years of division from unionism who represent less that 13% of Scot’s

[@scotmacc]

@@Aklith Aye, it's the way ye tell 'em! Oh, ma sides!

[@Broatch6]

Still at it … the politics of grievance and misplaced victimhood .

[@DonaldMellor]

Scotland is unlikely to ever attain full independence, as many believe that it would struggle to sustain itself effectively without the support and resources provided by the United Kingdom. The challenges of self-governance, economic stability and international relations may prove to be insurmountable for a nation that has long been integrated into a larger political and economic framework. Therefore, the notion of Scotland thriving independently raises significant concerns about its ability to navigate the complexities of nationhood without the backing of its more established counterpart.

[@Maggy47]

Agree 👍

[@thomasreilly6362]

@@DonaldMellor Nonsense There are far smaller countries in the EU than Scotland with fewer natural resources and are doing far better..

[@hashburystumble8808]

The Uk Cannot support itself financially & many in Scotland believe that Scotland would be a successful European country like our neighbours in Ireland, Iceland or Denmark

[@thomasreilly6362]

@@DonaldMellor Nonsense, there are many smaller countries in Europe that have nothing like the resources Scotland has. Scotland is a net exporter of green energy, its agricultural exports are of a high quality. Ireland is a perfect example, smaller than Scotland producing enough food to feed 25 million people. Its wealth is increasing year on year and has a strong international presence globally. Scotland wouldn't cut itself off from England but trade commodities. Scotland would get a lot of support from the EU..Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Denmark

[@thomasreilly6362]

@@hashburystumble8808 The UK is the 6/7 wealthiest country in the World. What utter nonsense you spout..

[@adamsmith8307]

Rest in peace Alex Salmond The First Minister of Scotland.

[@nigelhutt9921]

If my memory of school history is right, Scotland had full independence and blew it big time with disastrous attempts to set up a trade colony in South America which went massively wrong and risked bankrupting Scotland. Let them have independence both political and financial it would be comedy gold.

[@graemeroberts7367]

You mean when the English had blockaded Scotland from trading? Yes it wasn’t anything to do with that little fact

[@graemeroberts7367]

Yes laugh at the only part of the uk that’s covered its costs for the last 100 years Whilst you stand in the place that hasn’t covered its costs once in that same century According to Westminster of course

[@Broatch6]

Not for anyone who had the misfortune of living in an ‘independent’ Scotland

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@Broatch6 says the people who are literally fleeing and destroying their own country in riots because of the mess they’ve created in their own country

[@bear1245]

Let’s stop subsidising them 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@keithrobinson5752]

In one way no, the SNP still blames the English and Westminster for all their own Fups . For example both education and health fully run by them has gotten worse.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@keithrobinson5752 and yet both education and healths budgets are dependent on Englands choices Again facts not feelings

[@ianscott3180]

@@graemeroberts7367 If it was only down to throwing money at a problem the ferries would have been finished 5 years ago. £16 million to a consultancy company for the Rest and be Thankfull is a prime example. £16 million pound worth of waste paper because nothing is done.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@ianscott3180 is that the ferries unionists ordered from a Indian takeaway and got none? It’s funny when unionists bring stuff up the son supposedly failed on because unionists always did worse than the snp on everything they touched

[@IreZico]

@@keithrobinson5752 health is worse in england actually. But the media only has one narrative they go for

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@ianscott3180 like the money unionists threw at a Indian take away to buy ferries? Anything the snp do badly unionism has done much worse 😂

[@sellmav]

So sad they don’t want to throw off the chains of occupation.

[@gibsonduvall]

You have to remember that the Scottish definition of 'independence' is completely different to the rest of the worlds definition. The Scots version - To leave one union, immediately join another one, to be ruled by Brussels instead of those naughty big boys in Westminster and to keep the currency of the country you depsise and can't wait to get away from! Makes perfect sense eh! The rest of the world - To be independent. Just a pity that Wee Jimmy and Co didn't believe that the highest drugs/death rate in Europe was a tad more important eh? Now that may have saved a few actual lives.

[@geomac650]

Incorrect

[@BarryTees]

NO the definition is. Leaving a corrrupt union for a much much fairer one and have a say what we can do instead of being told

[@gibsonduvall]

@@BarryTees Haha ha that's hilarious that you actually believe that, comedy gold. The EU isn't corrupt, brilliant 😂. I'm trying to decide if you're obtuse or simply naive, probably both. I notice that you didn't even attempt to counter anything I suggested - Good effort👍🏻😂. Do you paint your face blue and run around shouting 'Freedom' by any chance. Keep the comedy coming.

[@gibsonduvall]

@@geomac650 And why would that be? I'm guessing you also can't counter what I suggest and hence the lame, lazy and rather pathetic 'incorrect'! My definition is exactly what Wee Jimmy was wanting. Apology accepted.

[@geomac650]

@@gibsonduvall so whose are the figures then ?

[@patrickkeating7074]

All you have to do is look at Ireland...if they can be a sovereign independent Wealthy Nation so can Scotland... it's that Simple......grow a pair and focus......

[@patrickkeating7074]

@lynxonyx-w3j The UK asked the World Bank for a loan which Ireland contributed to in 1973 to bail out the U.K., its past history, and now Ireland could loan Britain many Billions....a lessen for Scotland and their potential. we had the same problem in Ireland as in Scotland in 1922.....King Dude Subjects.

[@petew5289]

iam english but trace .y ancestry back to scotland 1645 one of my grandfathers was scotish iam not bothered one way or the other

[@hey12542]

My Grandad was born in North Berwick in Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿, my nanna was a Geordie from the North East of England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 and I'm English 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿. Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 is a nice country but some of its people are 'haters'. I'm not bothered what it does, it's up to them.

[@ziggysawdust5407]

Let them go, they've had their hands in our pockets for way too long..

[@Aklith]

if this is the Scottish electorate to the rUK electorate then I agree.

[@graemeroberts7367]

😂 says the people who haven’t once covered their costs in a century to the people who have covered their costs over the same 100 years 🤷‍♂️ strange people the English

[@bear1245]

The Scot’s are filled with hayte

[@Support-your-local-team]

"Our pockets". Absolute delusion.

[@claretblue2509]

@@graemeroberts7367Try using a comma once in a while.

[@The_History_Simp]

I voted YES in 2014, but won't again. The UK needs reformed, not abandoned.

[@IreZico]

@@The_History_Simp the UK is already gone, look the other countries want out of it aswell. Repeating the same behaviour of staying in the UK and expecting different results wont work. Look what labour are doing now to scotland. There is no way the uk would be reformed. Absolutely no chance.

[@The_History_Simp]

@@IreZico Scotland has historically benefited from being in the UK, the greatest nation in world history. Cutting ties with our nearest partners and installing a hard border would only worsen Scotland. Just as the UK should have stayed in the EU and tried to change it from within, so should Scotland stay in the UK.

[@MGJS71]

​@@IreZico "Scotland" even further gone: it ended in 1843. Time to make Edinburgh the new capital of Britain.

[@robinscott7816]

Alex salmon who had a programme on russia today.

[@denisburgess2966]

​@@The_History_Simp Staying in the Eu and trying to change it from within would have been a waste of time and money.

[@Support-your-local-team]

We bottled it. What a bad decision that ended up being.

[@nigelhutt9921]

Darien scheme, strangely never brought up in conversation on independence.

[@eckie4679]

How many hundred years ago 🙄

[@nigelhutt9921]

How much debt? . I'd personally give you independence tomorrow as long as it was complete. So no MPs in Westminster, no monies so Scotland pays for everything it wants including police, armed forces etc. Move Polaris to Plymouth. There are plenty of English who'd happily see the end of the Union.

[@MGJS71]

@@nigelhutt9921 too late for that: there are now more people with Scottish ancestry in England than in Scotland itself. Centuries of intermarriage have made the British into one people. The fiction of a distinct Scotland serves the purposes of globalist civil servants - noone else.

[@graemeroberts7367]

😂 let’s just ignore the fact England had blockaded Scotland from trading before darian and was strangling Scotland 😂 😂 and strangely it is brought up all the time sadly it’s by ignorant English man and unionists who don’t like facts only hearsay they heard

[@graemeroberts7367]

@nigelhutt9921 😂 so does that mean England would stop collecting and spending 40% of Scottish taxes as it does now? And would that mean England would have to live within its own means whilst having no one to split its debts with? Remember in the last 100 years England has covered its costs 0 times 😂 not once Whilst Scotland(according to Westminster in England) has cover its costs over the same whole 100 years 😂 😂 😂

[@robertmotyka133]

I voted "no" based on a lie campaign that reached me, that independent Scotland would have to leave the European Union. We were removed from the EU against our will anyway. Cannot wait for another referendum, I will vote YES.

[@makeitsonumberone1358]

🙄

[@MGJS71]

The Scottish NO to "Independence in Europe " in 2014 was the beginning of Brexit, confirmed in 2016 when 2.4m (58%) refused to vote REMAIN against 1.6m who did.

[@IreZico]

@@robertmotyka133 the scare mongering and lying tactics from WM and Unionists were used because they need scotland. If english really believes they give us everything then why are their leaders so scared to loose us?

[@Thespian-wp6xq]

Leaving the EU was never part of your referendum and you still lost.

[@IreZico]

@@Thespian-wp6xq it was used as a threat from unionists over and over.

[@steviet4103]

🎵 Will she no come back again 🎶 Will she no come back again 🎶 good grief i hope not 😅 👍

[@Coinresearcherant]

No UK govt are independent, imo. Every politician serves the an ti Whi te j suprem families, allegedly. re negade tribu ne dott kom

[@BLACKSTA361]

Delusional 😂

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@Coinresearcherant 😂 😂 😂 what a clown you are

[@dinkohrvat344]

Sturgeon was an intolerant leader . Salmond was a fool ....he took a job with Russia Today which said a lot about his character and morals .

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@dinkohrvat344 and yet Scot’s would still pick them over unionists today 😂 says it all about unionism really

[@Bawitdabadabangdadang]

I'd rather live in Russia than the west at the moment.

[@alexd7029]

Absolutely !

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@Bawitdabadabangdadang typical traitorous far right thug

[@dinkohrvat344]

@@Bawitdabadabangdadang Please send us a postcard from Russia . I love Putin he is a genius and such a lovely , kind great leader of the Russian people .

[@johnh1252]

Shouldnt Salmond quietly disappear after his court case?

[@vladimirivanov5782]

@@johnh1252 Not, sorry , because you're lives in democracy 🤣🤣🤣

[@matt38]

Why should he disappear, he was found to be innocent, accusers were found to be bare faced liars. eg one accused him of inappropriate touching at an event that he never attended. 🤔

[@ianscott3180]

@@matt38 All set up by the SNP leaders at the time.

[@Veeodee]

No changes. I for one will never vote for snp - or for independence We are a small country in size so we should be together

[@Aklith]

lol

[@graemeroberts7367]

😂 😂 😂 😂 too small too wee too stupid Unionism hasn’t changed I see

[@Support-your-local-team]

What does New Zealand with it's smaller population but higher standard of living have that we don't?

[@jimmys6566]

​@Aklith how do New Zealand and Norway manage without England?

[@Aklith]

@@jimmys6566 im laughing because the original post is so dumb. I agree with you

[@jeanetteeftekhar6762]

We have had a referendum. Why can't the SNP accept democracy? Money is being wasted on Indepence, even after 10 years. The Scottish people need this money to be used for many things.

[@Aklith]

Can I get my EU membership back?

[@graemeroberts7367]

The people elected them standing on a independence referendum Why can’t you accept democracy in 2024 instead of pretending we are still in 2014

[@Jonathan-h1w9j]

@@Aklith Yes you can Move to an EU country. Try Ireland

[@Aklith]

@@Jonathan-h1w9j misses the point but thanks for an obviously pointless suggestion.

[@Jonathan-h1w9j]

@@Aklith Does it How? Your point I suppose is for everyone to do everything that you want

[@Scott-iu2jx]

It may be possible with England now in turmoil we did not want to leave BREXIT in the first instance. But the every day working people are ignored 😢

[@molkakaminski]

Cut the public services and they will quickly learn the joy of high taxation

[@soniawoodley7805]

They want independence but the government funding of England s parliament

[@graemeroberts7367]

😂 England hasn’t once covered the costs of England in a century tho And in the same century Scotland has covered its own costs for the whole century according to Westminster 🤷 Seems like the English are more interested in keeping their funding from Scotland d wales and Northern Ireland

[@KIIXI]

Scotland should learn from Norway and kick WM.

[@ianscott3180]

Norway kicked WM? I must have missed that!

[@MGJS71]

There is no Scottish ethnicity: we were never one people. Time to let the past be the past.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@MGJS71 so the same can be said about the uk right? Sadly unionism only has arguments based on their own bs

[@MGJS71]

@@graemeroberts7367 no. The British are one people after centuries of intermarriage in an English-speaking culture: something that was never achieved in the old Scotland. The only city where Scots from East or West Coast can meet on an equal footing is London: everywhere else Glaswegians stick out like a sore thumb. BTW, "Scottish Unionism" was abolished in 1968 & has had no presence since then.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@MGJS71 so what’s the Scottish conservative and unionists party then? 😂 😂 bless

[@stephenlaw9886]

No, nothings changed because Scotland voted against independence. End of

[@graemeroberts7367]

😂 it’s not end of though no matter how much you cowards wish democracy died in 2014

[@jagdeepsingh-ns1fw]

Please stay with uk

[@Mike_5]

No. The Scotts still attempt to call a Swede a Turnip

[@mgytitanic1912]

Devolution needs to be reversed. It has brought nothing but misery and chaos.

[@graemeroberts7367]

Says the people that stand with a foreign parliament over their own And who’s parliament admits Scotland is the best performing part of the uk on devolved issues 🤷‍♂️ Unionism is strange but it’s why less than 13% of Scot’s now support it 😂 😂

[@graemeroberts7367]

😂 80% of Scot’s disagree with your assessment But that’s why you couldn’t even get 15 thousand from 5.5 million Scot’s to agree with you when you tried to shut it down two years ago now 😂 😂 😂 more people got to Easter road than support you clowns

[@New-ye2fl]

@@graemeroberts736780% of Scot’s want devolution reversed? Ohhh really 😂😂😂

[@IanDuckworth-n4b]

I always though there was something fishy about those two. Ian Dee.

[@user-yh9sn1ye1j]

don't forget their majority prop patrick harvies IAN DUNN MEMORIAL AWARD which he never disavowed

[@SteveStone-d5y]

I would love scotland to get independence and get there own currency

[@maverick4177]

NO

[@heli398]

They would be better off if they won independence before brexit, you know it

[@johnwaldrum801]

They found out when all the scandals came out

[@kennethoram4292]

Please let Scotland go.

[@sharadjain2463]

India will help you scotland

[@AikisDominator]

SCOTLAND! FOREVER!

[@fitliketheday14]

Rip Alex Salmond. 💙

[@simpaticaism]

No these jerks have made sure of that fact !

[@mutav2166]

YES/AYE 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@ExcitedCartoonCat-cw6wd]

No they won’t.

[@johnpaul252003]

MI6 made sure the SNP no longer became a threat. lol

[@ianscott3180]

What a load of bull sxxt. MI5 are responsible for internal security in the UK. James Bond had nothing to do with it. 😀

[@johnpaul252003]

@@ianscott3180 yes indeed

[@MGJS71]

@@johnpaul252003 SNP was always run by MI6.

[@charles8157]

If they vote yes they must allow it Scotland has been a good true friend to UK, 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@IreZico]

@@charles8157 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🤝 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@andrewelphick2304]

Scotland is the U.K. a country can’t be friends with itself.

[@robertbagrie1151]

Something fishy was going on.

[@SteveStone-d5y]

Is she in prison yet

[@zahirsiddique2909]

Not during my lifetime 😩

[@IMAPICKLE645]

Not one getting my vote no way liars

[@alastairorr6318]

NEVER, I live in Govan, Glasgow. I am very proud to be Glaswegian, Scottish, British and European.

[@yana1852]

One small correction - European no more.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@alastairorr6318 even your leaders in Northern Ireland are telling you the unions end is inevitable and you should prepare for the end of the union. Sadly unionism doesn’t care about Scotland and would never put the people of Scotland or the nation before unionism. That’s been its downfall and it’s why less than 12% now claim to be unionist in Scotland f

[@alastairorr6318]

@@graemeroberts7367 North and South Ireland will return to being one country under Great Britain very soon. It was only loaned to the catholic paedophiles.

[@alastairorr6318]

@@graemeroberts7367 The nazis don't care about Scotland, the "Scottish Nazi Party", Alba and Scottish Greens.

[@mjjveritas2]

@@yana1852 Geographically, we are still European as we are in Europe.

[@strangetrip837]

Yes!

[@benedictcowell6547]

The only element of the UK that voted brexit was the English, The Scots, the Irish, the Welsh-Welsh know we re Europeans, we know we are part of European Culture, the English lower middle class do not have the education, the culture to be anything but little Englanders but the English are not Brits on their own, but I maintain that with Brexit England broke the terms of the Act of Union so grievously that the Act of Union is defunct ad Scotland does not need a referendum or the permission of England> The United Kingdom was killed by Brexit, . But join NATO so if the English try to use force NATO will defend Scotland. Scotland was double crossed by the English with Brexit, they were interested only in themselves . They think they won the war on their own. Their Economist was a Scot, the moral philosopher who they do not understand was Irish, their One nation Tory was Jewish. What exactly thy contributed to this myth of English thought is elusive.,

[@vladimirivanov5782]

European culture you mean French Olympics game????😂😂😂😂😂

[@kethughes8266]

The Welsh voted leave.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@vladimirivanov5782aww bless it’s like you don’t know Scotland a history is tied more to Europe than to the uk and England

[@grww4056]

What a vile and frankly racist rant. Predictably from a deluded and hate filled separatist.

[@grww4056]

It may be the case that your “contribution” is worthy of reporting to the authorities. Hate crime?

[@dianecameron137]

wheres the money

[@johnboyne1]

After the battle for the independence of Scotland i don't think you personally should of ever gave in, i was born in england, now live in scotland prefer scotland 100x more

[@bam5711]

UNION FOREVER

[@ZedEdo-t5p]

Never ever that will happen god nless the uk❤❤❤❤❤

[@graemeroberts7367]

😂 you sure as even northern Irish unionist leaders are telling their followers to prepare for the end of the union as it’s now inevitable

[@ZedEdo-t5p]

@@graemeroberts7367 so you guys want a little England?

[@graemeroberts7367]

@user-zm1zv1xw5y I want nothing to do with England England has signed its own death warrant and Scotland wales and Northern Ireland don’t want to swing with you

[@ZedEdo-t5p]

@@graemeroberts7367 trust me will never happen I'm french but love the UK stay unite let's solve issue😊😊😊😊

[@graemeroberts7367]

@user-zm1zv1xw5y no thanks I’d rather leave the uk and rejoin the eu as a independent nation. England and Scotlands politics are on the opposite scale from each other. If the union was a equal partnership with each nation having the same say and power I’d agree yet the English will never give up power That’s why they left the eu because they couldn’t control it and that’s what they hated the lose of control over others

[@PeterWalls-kq6ye]

Easy answer,,,,no.

[@Cycle.every.day.]

The hunger for independence dies way down when Labour are in charge in Westminister , there's only an appetite for it when the Tories are in charge.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@Cycle.every.day. 😂 Labour have already lost Scotland tho We don’t trust them like we once did

[@hey12542]

​@@graemeroberts7367You don't but you don't speak for everyone in Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@hey12542 no just the majority who don’t vote Labour and that don’t trust them. This is the problem with blind unionism. You can’t see the facts for your bs

[@graemeroberts7367]

@hey12542 😂 I don’t claim too but can you tell me people here think they are doing a good job so far?

[@hey12542]

​​@@graemeroberts7367Who said I was a unionist? I couldn't care less if Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 left, it's all the rubbish nationalist chat and the lies they spout that gets me. Tell the truth rather than chat rubbish based off anti English 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 sentiment. And in answer to your question No I don't think people think the unions doing a very good job, but I also think people don't think the Scottish 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 administration is doing a good job either, apart from die hard anti English 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 hating nationalists who want independence no matter what the cost.

[@Magpie6639]

Simple answer-NO!!!!!

[@Aklith]

Yup, lots has changed, We're outside the EU against our wishes, poorer due to UK economic mismanagement. Little surprise more people want Scottish independence than ever before.

[@kethughes8266]

Yet the unionists party votes keep rising

[@pp-cb8db]

I think you are a lot poorer due to the SNP's incompetence open your eyes and see them for what they are corrupt politicians. Like them all. I mean look at what is happening with drug addiction, alcoholism , all your little towns are boarded up very sad. I think you should stand together without the help of the SNP if you want independence. Sadly there are no other parties that could help! Good luck with that.

[@scotmacc]

2.4 million Scots didn't vote to remain in the corrupt EU.

[@Aklith]

@@pp-cb8db poorer due to SNP incompetence? but it's UK economic policy Scots are subjected to. Thanks for proving my point. Also, I left UK after Brexit and started a family elsewhere. Like many young Scots.

[@pp-cb8db]

@@Aklith I still think you feel that SNP have been short changed they are a dreadful party like Conservatives and now Labour. The EU are very corrupt also. I do not have any answers though it seems all politicians have fine ideas and then grease their own palms when in power.

[@hey12542]

Independent Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 will be good for people in Northern England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 near the Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿/England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 border wanting to visit a Schengen country cause when filling out the ETIAS can put Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 as the first Schengen country your visiting and have all the checks ✅ done at the Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿/England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 border and then fly out to the Schengen area from Edinburgh. On the way back fly back into Edinburgh and then get the train back down south of the border. Being English 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 I'm not invested in Scottish 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 independence other than if Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 becomes independent there should be a hard border and freedom of movement in England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 ended for Scots 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 and replaced with visa free limited stays and an upto date ETA im sure Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 would find it within itself to reciprocate. No common travel area membership as even the one with Ireland 🇮🇪 needs to end tbh. We should all be independent countries going off in our own directions, being friendly but keeping Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 and Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 and Ireland 🇮🇪 at arms length.

[@alexd7029]

@@hey12542 No! We are not a Schengen country. The UK never signed the S. agreement so our borders would not be scrapped. Dear knows what has deviously happened along the road when we have an illegal migrant invasion. Where are the supposed deportations taking place and reported briefly on the media ? We see lots still coming in but none going out on planes buses boats etc. Another lie perhaps!

[@alexd7029]

@@hey12542 There is a lot to happen before this. I hope independence never comes to Scotland and devolved governments are finished and coalition governing comes for the UK and all four nations are under the one roof . I voted for devolution and thought this a progressive step with each Nation wise and Co- operating with each other and each knowing fully what was going on. It hasn’t worked and will never work. Power having gone to the heads of many and greed lies and corruption. The only way for the UK to progress is , as in crisis and war ‘United we Stand.’. I would not like to see Scotland or the UK a Schengen. Country. It is bad enough as it is and they are not Schengen to prevent the scrapping of our borders. The mass immigration of illegal migrants should not be happening when the UK did not sign the Schengen Agreement to protect our borders. There is dirty footwork going on here which we the public are not aware of. Money is lining the pockets of countries somewhere when the small boats keep coming to the UK and efforts made to make them our responsibility. God help us if we ever joined the UK and as already they state we would have to sign the Schengen Agreement. We would ,as showing at present, with inaction of our government to deport ones here and to send the small boats back to France. We need coalition governing for this crisis and action from all politicians. Of all parties to stop illegal migrant invasion. The uK is already the dumping ground for dumping ground for the EU and other countries. Must be stopped before we become a third world country with appalling and pathetic leadership . We are already on draining overload.

[@alexd7029]

Oops! Joined the EU meaning and not the UK.

[@Tr1gger1011]

Nope….

[@KabulHull]

Scotland is better off outside the UK for mainly the same reasons UK was better off outside the EU.

[@michaelhannah5376]

Sturgeon’s. Heart was breaking. Oh dear, how sad never mind.

[@ianscott3180]

She has a heart?

[@truthwillwin8977]

Build the wall

[@thesource5153]

NO.

[@graemeroberts7367]

Yes 😉 It’s inevitable just like the unionists leaders in Northern Ireland are telling their people. The end of the union is inevitable and you should prepare for that and to accept it

[@Bawitdabadabangdadang]

I voted "Yes" for independence and "Leave" for Brexit. My fellow countrymen shunned me for voting to leave the EU and called me a 'fake independence supporter'. Alex Salmond is one of the best leaders we've ever had, the country has been in shambles since he left. As the years have passed I would probably vote "No" to independence now. I've realised true independence doesn't exist in the world today, there will always be higher powers dictating to your country so I think we're better sticking with the devil we know (UK).

[@dirtydawg448]

Ch 4 - well what a surprise!

[@thomasbootham2707]

All across the uk in wales, northern England, Northern Ireland and Scotland there is massive dissatisfaction with Westminster I think to solve this the uk should become a federation like Canada or Australia with a lot more devolution for Scotland, wales and Northern Ireland and have regional assemblies in England i believe this would do a lot to resolve the current dissatisfaction and tension that is being felt with the union all across the uk

[@graemeroberts7367]

😂 more revolution Does that mean I’d have to don my kilt and charge from the hills 🤷‍♂️ I agree with your solution as long as each nation in the union had an equal say. I don’t think England would accept that though

[@thomasbootham2707]

@@graemeroberts7367 typo error it’s meant to say devolution

[@Celticsamuraiblue]

Joke Tinpot PONCE country👉🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Joke FINISHED UNION 👎🏻🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿☮️🇪🇺😎

[@TheJollyRapscallion]

Scottish independence lived and died on the fantasy of EU membership, with that gone it will never happen.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@TheJollyRapscallion where’s that gone? Are you one of the fools that believe the eu wouldn’t want the only part of the uk to cover its costs over the last century?

[@keithrobinson5752]

Ever hear of the Barnet forumal 🤔

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@keithrobinson5752 is that the Barnett formula that gives Scotland 60% of its taxes back only? Again you clowns are so easily led by your own bs

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@keithrobinson5752 is that the Barnett formula that gives Scotland 60% of its taxes back only? Where’s the other 40% again? Oh that’s right Englands back pocket

[@graemeroberts7367]

@keithrobinson5752 is that the Barnet formula that gives Scotland wales and Northern Ireland 60% of their taxes back only? With the other 40% still being collected and spent by England

[@sidneybell64]

How could they afford it

[@graemeroberts7367]

Because we wouldn’t be sending 40% of our taxes south to England And how does every other small nation manage without the help of England?

[@IreZico]

Will Happen one day 👌🏼

[@Behindstage]

It won’t. The opportunity was 2014.

[@boomerhgt]

No it certainly won't bubba

[@alst4817]

@@Behindstageah yes, there’s no Scottish independence movement anymore 😂

[@grww4056]

What will happen? Free dumb?

[@JonoPS]

​@@BehindstageIt won't, in your opinion. Clearly, you won't allow others to think differently than you.

[@johnharrison8857]

Why is Nicola always surrounded by lgbt personalities?…?

[@geoffreylee5199]

UK is smaller now after leaving EU, the political wankers want to make it smaller. Scotland has no currency of their own since the 1700s, so trying to use the Euro might be difficult.

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@geoffreylee5199 😂 using the euro might be difficult 😂 😂 yes we all walk about Spain and France wondering how to buy things because we find the euro so difficult

[@rayelrick1224]

This is a miniscule observation, but l'm in Wales right now, and I've hardly seen any speed bumps, or "cushions" as the authorities like to call them. In Scotland, they are everywhere, and make any journey thoroughly miserable... and l'm a taxi driver.Thanks our Scottish leaders. Full of their own importance. 😡

[@IreZico]

@@rayelrick1224 you complaining about road safety. You chose the job of a taxi driver if they are such a big issue for you, even tho they take literally seconds to slow down and drive over, then choose another job. Minuscule observation on a minuscule issue of road safety speed bumps. Clearly if its an issue your going faster than you should and its taxi drivers like yourself that make the roads more dangerous.

[@suehorton8280]

They should remember it was James 1st of Scotland that joined England to scotland, not the other way around. So they should stop gripping about there independence.

[@graemeroberts7367]

Another ignorant fool If only the English weren’t so easily led by their own lies they might not be in the situation they are today lagging behind everyone

[@geoffreylee5199]

James 6 of Scotland was James 1 of England … Charles of Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 the Younger Pretender, tried invading England; he returned to the north, left in a boat.

[@hashburystumble8808]

Try reading history. Scotland was not joined to England by James VI/I. The Treaty of Union came almost a century later in 1707.

[@hey12542]

​@@graemeroberts7367It's the truth though, are you choosing to ignore the truth to fit with your anti English 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 views? James the 1st joined the crowns of Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 and England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 and made it into one country. It was over 300 years ago and that's how things have remained. Even now polls still never reach 60% to get a referendum on independence. Why is that? If Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 wants it so much why is the population literally split on it?

[@hey12542]

​@@hashburystumble8808James made England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 and Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 into a single unified state in 1603. Maybe it's you who needs to do their history and watch less brave heart 🥱🙄.

[@hourbee5535]

Free Scotland and Palestine

[@Behindstage]

Scotland is free you berk.

[@boomerhgt]

Free the West from Palastine and it's followers

[@terrysmith2022]

Imbecile...

[@chrisstones1249]

Texts like yours prove Scotland cannot go it alone , Palestine absolutely.

[@Aklith]

@@chrisstones1249 that's some exceptionalism right there. That somehow Scotland is in a worse position to be an independent state than Palestine. You're miles from reality.

[@Thespian-wp6xq]

What's happened C4? Have you run out of anti-Trump material?

[@graemeroberts7367]

@@Thespian-wp6xq 😂 anti trump 😂 😂 I suppose reporting facts is now anti trump 😂 😂 bless Trumps own vp called him americas Hitler 😂 that’s how own supporters

[@peterhowe4952]

If they vote for independance let them have it and wales