Secret deal with Warwickshire Hunt sparks police policy debate

[@johnvaleanbaily4859]

Corrupt cops protecting their friends.

[@nookienookiebattiebottie3531]

Ahhh, the best way

[@mobilephil244]

What a waster of police time and focus. They should be policing pronouns and HURTY-TWEETIES for lefties

[@BlackRat-vw9jv]

More like a secret handshake society got involved

[@alanbeckett4]

It's not the front line coppers that want this to happen, it's people like the Chief Constable and the PFCC that think rules shouldn't apply to them and their mates. Private Eye has been reporting on this for a while.

[@24540082]

Senior police officers stopped being cops when they became senior.. to call them cops does a disservice to ordenery hardworking honest cops

[@samanthaw4955]

Corruption, needs an open transparent public inquiry.

[@mobilephil244]

What a waster of police time and focus. They should be policing pronouns and HURTY-TWEETIES for lefties

[@edaleman2758]

The corrupt people run the system

[@williamr3840]

"Corrupt people run the system." This is a FACT. They have always been and will always be running it. So what chance have we got in this country? None. It will remain this way always -- with a handful of greedy and selfish, nasty "people" ruining life for all of us, destroying the country brick-by-brick, ruining any hope, and dragging us all down into the gutter.

[@thetessellater9163]

That might happen in a few decades......great British means of diposing of evidence and sham oversight - aka Hillsborough, Stephen Lawrence, etc

[@andrewbravery5114]

Rich people not obeying the law of the land with the support of the Police.

[@MrSatnavatron]

they're landowners , judges and powerful people . Most officers are scared to try as the Police are the protectors of the elite

[@isobelmiddleton6353]

So what's new???

[@californiadreamin8423]

@inklingofaneye. So owning the land gives you immunity from the law ?

[@californiadreamin8423]

@inklingofaneye So if you murder someone on that land , you are immune from the law ? That’s fascinating.

[@ingni123456]

​@inklingofaneye Nah. Fred and Rose West did their crimes on private property. Still illegal. This video explicitly showed you the hunters breaking the law on public land. Just be honest about why you want to defend them.

[@scribblezgfx]

Warwickshire Hunt have members who are serving police officers in Warwickshire. The secret deal was about not leaking police misconduct from Warwickshire police force.

[@Rich.H68]

This is the real 2 tier Policing problem

[@nookienookiebattiebottie3531]

2 tier Kier

[@worrymoose]

No. Read the comment, the opposite of that cariacature​@nookienookiebattiebottie3531

[@rolyons]

​@nookienookiebattiebottie3531Have you unwittingly joined a cult and can't help spitting out meaningless slogans to certain stimuli? Do you even realise that Labour weren't in power during the original alleged offence or the secret deal?

[@coppershark1973]

Exactly!

[@jonaldous3446]

​@nookienookiebattiebottie3531 nothing to do with kier starmer, this has been going on for decades and most pro hunters are tory.

[@TheLampini]

Well done C4 - we've been trying to get something done about this corruption for years!! This "hunt" really thinks it is above the law, the cheif constable is firmly in with these criminals.

[@pedroloco9327]

As are many judges and legal professionals.

[@TB-rm7oq]

It's an English tradition. I don't understand why people want to destroy our traditions honestly.

[@TheLampini]

@TB-rm7oq it's ILLEGAL. I don't understand why its all about "the rule of law" unless you're rich. It was democratically decided that this country would ban it. That's the first reason. It's barbaric. It's unwanted by a vast majority of farmers. It's unwanted by the vast majority of the population. It's continuation is merely an "up yours, the law doesn't apply to us" by the landed gentry. Workhouses were also "traditional" at one point. As was child labour, bear baiting, the burning of heretics and slavery. Traditional does NOT equal good!

[@TheLampini]

@TB-rm7oq it's ILLEGAL. I don't understand why its all about "the rule of law" unless you're rich. It was democratically decided that this country would ban it. That's the first reason. It's barbaric. It's unwanted by a vast majority of farmers. It's unwanted by the vast majority of the population. It's continuation is merely an "up yours, the law doesn't apply to us" by the landed gentry. Workhouses were also "traditional" at one point. As was child labour, bear baiting, the burning of heretics and slavery. Traditional does NOT equal good!

[@TheLampini]

@TB-rm7oq it's ILLEGAL. I don't understand why its all about "the rule of law" unless you're rich. It was democratically decided that this country would ban it. That's the first reason. It's barbaric. It's unwanted by a vast majority of farmers. It's unwanted by the vast majority of the population. It's continuation is merely an "up yours, the law doesn't apply to us" by the landed gentry.

[@PikeKing]

That woman blatantly lied that they are trail hunting. I am not sure how they can still think people will be fooled by that

[@yamadakenji4143]

And she said with a straight face "So if anyone has any complaints they need to take them to the police, still you know, we are accountable to the police"

[@cjay8163]

What evidence do you have?

[@superted6960]

Agree absolutely. Saw this report on c4 news last night. Thought they'd have better things to do with their time.

[@davidpalk5010]

@@superted6960 Better things to do than uncovering police corruption to protect an organised crime gang...? I'd say that's a most certainly a worthwhile story.

[@Android_insurrection]

Most people don’t care about such things.

[@addfoxy]

"Please don't chase me" The irony of that coming from Debbie Tedds.

[@MrSatnavatron]

a former Chief

[@dougaltolan3017]

Foxy lady.

[@danburycollins]

I imagine the foxes would say the same thing :/

[@stephenfowlie742]

The English police being corrupt?.....Never

[@utubebroadcaster]

Everything has a price

[@nookienookiebattiebottie3531]

​@@utubebroadcasterwould the police ever investigate the millions of murders committed in The NHS?

[@mobilephil244]

What a waster of police time and focus. They should be policing pronouns and HURTY-TWEETIES for lefties

[@pillowcase2006]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@watjejanssen7535]

@@utubebroadcaster all cops you mean

[@Hagthorn]

Well done Channel 4 for investigating and reporting on this.

[@glennboyd7049]

Thank you to Mr Alex Thomson and the producers at C4 for open and honest reportage. But most of all thanks to the magnificent Cathy and her fearless, determined comrades in the unstoppable West Midlands Hunt Saboteurs! ( Don't hold your breath for this appearing anytime soon on the bbc).

[@christopherjameslee3341]

An organised crime group policed by an organised crime group.

[@davidkavanagh189]

These 'hunters' need to get a hobby that's actually a hobby and not just pure cruelty. Boggles my mind how anyone can enjoy that

[@susangillett2034]

They bring their kids to watch the violence and celebrate killing with smearing blood. Vile people. Working class get their kids took off em wen they witness violence at home. These get full police protection just like the rest of the oligarchs in UK.

[@stephen3654]

Hereditary psychopathy, it's how the rich made their wealth.

[@DJWESG1]

"Tory's gunna tory"

[@pussiboos21t]

Do you eat meat tho...... That's a massively cruel industry.

[@Quinn-zg6wx]

They have a hobby that isn't pure cruelty😊

[@anotheruser2527]

I wonder if the Conservative MP for Stratford on Avon at the time knew about this? He is a keen fox hunter. Just saying

[@ravens-crypt]

The second good question I’ve seen here

[@Hacienda_27]

Was probably his idea

[@alundavies1016]

@@Hacienda_27I doubt he has good ideas.

[@juliepowell6457]

How on earth can there be a "deal" between the police and a large group of people continously breaking the law? Do the Warwickshire police make a "deal" with the burgelers, shoplifters, people who commit violent crimes and child abusers as well? Utterly outrageous that ANY deal is made with these blood thirsty criminals and how dare the Warwickshire police keep secrets from the public, who they are supposed to be honest and transparent with.

[@ChrisCooper312]

Depends what connections those other groups have with the police.

[@chrishartley4553]

The simple answer: Wealth.

[@juliepowell6457]

Id rather call it corruption....​@chrishartley4553

[@josephfoulger9628]

Blackmail

[@alanbeckett4]

We wouldn't know if they have.. they're secret deals! Sorry. 'Legally Confidential', which makes all the difference I'm sure we all agree.

[@MrFlamingo2002]

Please don’t think this is Warwickshire police in isolation, hunts across the country receive preferential treatment from police forces. The irony is, you’ll never find a larger band of thugs & criminals than the hunts & their lackeys.

[@andrewbravery5114]

@@MrFlamingo2002 they sound very unpleasant

[@JohnDavies-cn3ro]

Naturally - the hunts are, effectively, the establishment on horseback, and the police are primarily there to protect the establishment.

[@peterthomas4533]

This should result in prosecutions . Corruption like this should never happen

[@RoyJoyce873]

Happens all over the countryside in Cheshire. We have about 30 dogs and horses running down the street on a regular basis and the police are fine with it.

[@cjay8163]

@@MrFlamingo2002 do you have evidence for this? Or are you just making things up?

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

The Warwickshire Police SHOULD enforce the Law without fear or favor, and should always operate as NO ONE is above the Law. But 'secret deal' dramas show that among Senior Policing in ANY Police Force shows there is a point of view among them that there ARE some people due to their connections whom ARE above the Law, and Senior Police are willing to aid and abet them in ignoring the Law.

[@bell191991]

By far the most disturbing part is the criminal intimidation of the member of parliament who's looking into this. That should carry serious prison time. Maybe the national crime agency need to get involved, if local police have been corrupted

[@carlrobinson1480]

Head of NCA has a long history of corruption

[@legaliseme]

That is shocking

[@trevfindley]

George and Thomas Grant received no jail time for breaking someone's neck (with 4 co conspirators who they refused to identify) so I wouldn't hold your breath...

[@bell191991]

@@trevfindley I just looked up that case, hadn't heard about it before. What an absolute disgrace those 2 men are. Softness on crime needs to end.

[@trevfindley]

@@bell191991 yep. No justice served in that case, and the aristocratic influence over it was clear for anyone to see...

[@graemekeable8461]

Meanwhile a 77 year old woman is going to prison on over Christmas for holding up traffic for an hour. This isn't just about trust in the police, it's about the failure of the entire legal system. It's also about how the rich can carry on regardless breaking the law from fox hunting to defrauding tens of millions of pounds, yet the average person can't protest about this injustice.

[@davidpalk5010]

Meanwhile four people are in prison for five years each for taking part in a Zoom meeting about wholly peaceful environmental protest. Sun journalists colluded with the police on that one. There are "networks" operating to protect the wealthy.

[@Anthony-w7i5g]

Don't agree with hunting or blocking the traffic so she should be punished, not sure prison is the way though.

[@mintywebb]

​@@Anthony-w7i5gso you support putting farmers in prison for their protests too.

[@OriginalMaxPowerII]

Your problem is your expecting justice in the form of a court verdict and that just ain’t going to happen in a country like Britain. Rest assured though the hive mind of the British workers has long foreseen such problems and long-running plans are in place to deal with it.

[@KSweeney36]

Just ban the whole haunting concept. Even disguising it as trail hunting should be banned.

[@davidpalk5010]

How does society ban the exercising of dogs and horses? No new laws are necessary. Police just need to uphold the existing laws - which they rarely do. Hunting continues in spite of the ban. Foxes continue to die. The HSA is the only body standing in the way of these organised crime groups, but the HSA has no support from the authorities and its members are often presecuted by police siding with criminals.

[@t-and-p]

Trail hunting doesn't exist. Afterall, has anyone ever seen them lay a trail? And, if they did, why would they put it across roads and train lines, endangering the public and the hounds? 🤨 The second that their dogs chase a fox, it is very obvious that they're not trail hunting. It should be easy enough to train the dogs on an entirely different scent, and to train them as a game, not something that is predatory/results in violence, so why are they still reacting so strongly to the smell of a fox and why do they want to rip the fox to shreds? 🤔 Easy - they've been trained to, in complete defiance of the law. The fact that their dogs are able to ki11 a fox speaks volumes about the way they have been trained and are controlled. My dog gets excited when she smells one (she's a traditional hunting breed), but she knows that she has to leave it when I say so. If I wasn't able to control her in this manner, I would be breaking the law by having her off the lead. If she took the life of another animal whilst out of control in a public place, the police would get involved, she would be PTS, and I would be prosecuted. So the fact that the hunt is not held to the same standards shows just how two-tiered the system is. The whistle-blower officer is absolutely right - they are an organised criminal group - and, like most organised crime groups, they have connections within their local police force. The law came into force almost 20 years ago. No dog that was trained before the ban came into force is still involved in hunting now, so that excuse doesn't wash. They also never get prosecuted for their thuggery - whether it's attacking saboteurs, trying to intimidate MPs, or trying to run over a cameraman. The sabs get it the worst, though, because they're too scared to report it to the police - because they believe (with good reason...) that they've been having their details passed on to hunts by dodgy officers on the take for years, as reprisals always intensify and hunts always know more about them afterwards. Hunting is not a "quaint English tradition", it's a crime - committed by people who seem to believe that they are above the law. Many are supposedly "trusted members of society", too. I don't think it's any major shocker that many participants are often unmasked as judges, senior police officers, etc. The wife of the former chief constable of Devon and Cornwall Police was a joint huntmaster - after hunting was made illegal. Says it all, doesn't it?

[@pussiboos21t]

​@@t-and-ptrail hunting does exist. I know people that do it. That's not to say that many hunts don't break the rules

[@pedroloco9327]

Exactly , there is no way of controlling the dogs if they do come across a fox whilst “ trail hunting “ . It’s a pre made excuse if they get caught.

[@davidpalk5010]

@@pedroloco9327 And then there's the issue of "general intent" to consider. All hunters will tell you that the ban should be lifted. They all want to kill foxes. They go out equipped to kill, and when a fox is "accidentally" killed, the criminal justice system takes no action. Yet, going out with burglary equipment, or sitting at home planning a peacful environmental protest, or being drunk in your own home whilst having access to a car, are all situations that have resulted in prosecutions. Two tier policing in action.

[@jamestomlinson6281]

Superb reporting Alex. Keep pushing sir. The level of corruption is astonishing. Please end this barbarism and expose the cruelty & bent cops. Get them in court and get them sacked or if retired already get their pensions stopped.

[@James-nn8xz]

Alex is a true hero and national treasure. Top guy

[@helveticabold6428]

'The deal isn't secret, just legally confidential'. Warwickshire police really think we are idiots, don't they.

[@riccacreecca]

Because we are idiots. Time and time again we let things like this happen and never doing anything other than just putting up with it.

[@standard_gauge]

I suppose a secret deal is one that whose existence is not publicly known. A legally confidential deal is one where it's existence is public knowledge just not it's content. A distinction without difference.

[@OriginalMaxPowerII]

Also how can public body be signing off on ‘confidentiality clause’ when making agreements with private groups. It is in the public’s interest to have understanding of deals police authorities are making and Warwickshire Police should have endevered to explain to the fox hunting group why such clause could not be added to the deal and why such clause was (and is) legally unenforceable with a public taxpayer funded body.

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

" If you have any complaints the go to the police "...... because they wont do anything.

[@shu1981noah]

That's why people have started suing police directly. They keep getting court being corrupt, now that people have phones that record in high quality and have decent battery life

[@haybrain]

The police are half the problem. It takes two to make a secret deal.

[@PilotFlight2Mars]

Whoa. This is why we go through a cycle of edging closer to trusting police... only for them to prove why they don't deserve it.

[@scrappystocks]

Are the senior officers in the same lodge as the hunt personnel and supporters?

[@johnbratley6926]

Short answer, in Cheshire not in the same craft lodge but in the same provincial grand lodge.

[@mattyrjackson4261]

"He's a member of the pro hunting countryside alliance. They said he was too busy to see us, minutes later they said he wasnt there". Its like something from a carry on😂

[@tattiesconebuttie]

Or The Big Labowski, "that's like, your opinion man" 😂

[@adminimer5176]

Glad these officers are speaking out!

[@lazylad8544]

Corruption goes to the top

[@corvus1238]

It comes from the top.

[@user-nd7hn1eu7x]

I’m sure that those who have been crying about two tier policing for the past few months will be up in arms about this? I think not…. Shocking behaviour from this police force

[@yc9129]

Using a pack of dogs to rip apart another animal and claiming to be civilised

[@davideddy2672]

The public allow their dogs to do this every day of every year - off lead and zero control! Nesting season et al, livestock etc …

[@Prickupyourears]

@@davideddy2672 total whataboutism from a bootlicker for the toffs

[@laestrella9727]

​@@davideddy2672 That's a different issue

[@okokokjack]

​@@davideddy2672 what's that got to do with it?

[@okokokjack]

@@johncolley3317 what's that got to do with it?

[@Squarepeg57]

Actual ‘two tier policing’.

[@Hurc7495]

It takes an intense arrogance to assault anyone with a vehicle, but to do it to a cameraman reporting on your shady behaviour is a whole other level!

[@trevfindley]

@@Hurc7495 they already know there will be no consequences. Look up what happened to George and Thomas Grant (and what they did)...

[@HowDeepIsYourJesus]

And people pretend the UK is a free country? The same landowning slime who ruled our ancestors still own this country and are essentially immune to the same law that dictate our lives - and yet you expect the law to applied to them equally?? The British public are so used to being treated as subjects rather than citizens that they will just continue to allow this every time. It's sad.

[@cjay8163]

Is this about hunts, or your perceived class hatred and envy?

[@gamerknown]

@@cjay8163better the latter, there are far more workers in the country than there are vegans

[@dodgeman777]

@@cjay8163 Nothing "perceived" about it, the ruling class are scum and have always been

[@FirstNameLastName-ev3jk]

Free for the well connected. Restricted for others.

[@FirstNameLastName-ev3jk]

@@cjay8163, how many foxes have you killed this weekend?

[@SuperMickyChow]

Hunt sabs have known this stuff goes on for decades. It's not news, but it's nice to see it being stated publicly now.

[@123pangolin]

What other secret deals are there between police and organised lawbreakers...?

[@ravens-crypt]

Good question

[@Liverpoolboy01]

Israeli government?

[@Jake-z3f]

In fact when are police THE lawbreakers? More often than people think.

[@davidpalk5010]

@@Liverpoolboy01 ...and oil companies.

[@nigelbenn4642]

You really want to go down that hole? Just emigrate

[@NightSentinel51]

Reporter: Do you think you should apologize for this? Commissioner: To who and for what Need I say more?

[@VikSkiKat]

The police forces of this country claim to be concerned about public trust in them. But time after time. This very same thing happens. The police look after the toffs. And cover up the wrong doing that they do in the process. Scandals like this would not be a big deal if something was actually done about it.

[@titteryenot4524]

_The English country gentleman galloping after the fox - the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable._ (Oscar Wilde)

[@rajshu6408]

Rich people above the law again.

[@cjay8163]

@@rajshu6408 what evidence do you have they are all rich?

[@supercadcc]

​@cjay8163 come on, really.

[@jackbrown2323]

Not all rich people some people are not as well off and still go hunting. The law is the law you just have to read between it.

[@Quinn-zg6wx]

​@@jackbrown2323people want to make it about class and status when in reality half the people complaining are better paid or equivalent to the hunters

[@cjay8163]

@@supercadcc yes really, have you actually spoken and had a conversation with people that hunt? Or are you relying on your 2nd hand urban based perceived class hatred?

[@jimjones8892]

Whats new, the rich can break the law, the poor cant. Its always been the same.

[@joshuastanton6731]

Secret deals and charges just disappear? Hmmmm… sounds like the opposite of justice

[@earnestequivocation6250]

This is the irony of whining about two tier Kier when these disgusting blood ‘sport’ Establishment toffs can get away with murder. The sense of entitlement amongst these privileged prats and the land owning ‘farmers’ is breath taking. They make me sick to the core.

[@ChrisCooper312]

The funny thing is that it's basically the same "two tier policing" that's been a problem for decades in both cases. The "elite" Vs the ordinary people. It's not a "left Vs right" issue in most regards, it's just framed that way by both sides to try and cover it up. I mean we see it in the way that the same police that are supposed to be ultra "woke" are also pro bloodsports. One interesting thing to think about. A lot of these sort of rows come down to religion and tradition, and basically which religions and which traditions are allowed and which aren't, but when you look deeper, it's really that it's all about the way that religion and "tradition" empowers the elite and keeps the rest in their place. It's like the leaders of old who were happy to switch from "the king *is* a god" to "the king is appointed by god". From their point of view, and the point of view of the peasants, it's the same thing.

[@simondalton-vr9vw]

They are not trailhunting but foxes, which is a crime we need to jail some of them.

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

Money and influence

[@utubebroadcaster]

For the right amount, the police will look the other way

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

​@@utubebroadcaster especially with the right school tie, handshake and membership of the right clubs.

[@robbpatterson6796]

2004 this was made illegal. How is this still going on 20 years later? Oh yeah, these posh pricks can buy off the pigs. Just a shame that some animals can't look after others

[@cjay8163]

Trail hunting is not illegal. How do you know they are all "posh pricks"? Is this about your perceived class hatred and envy more than foxes?

[@dodgeman777]

@@cjay8163 Envy of what? Owning a horse and being inbred?

[@trildi]

@@cjay8163 Well, do you have time to ''enjoy'' some fox hunts after your 35-50 hour job? No? Then yes, these are entitled, cut-off from reality descendants of some aristocracy in the area. Posh pricks indeed. Personally I have no issues with their wealth or class. I do have issues with their cruelty, anti-social behaviour and corruption.

[@cjay8163]

@PlutoPhobia-y7r you're lieing, a field full of lamas? Killed them all? Killed two dogs on a footpath? Have you got the press articles for this? Hounds are puppy walked in homes to expose them to livestock, other dogs and people, you're just making it up

[@cjay8163]

@PlutoPhobia-y7r its legal to kill grey squirrels as they are a non native species, crows are on the 1981 general licence so are allowed to be killed. Regardless I'm not sure how hounds manage to kill buzzards and crows unless they've sprouted wings! And badgers deep underground. You're making it up

[@valnevill-rc3dv]

That woman speaks with a forked tongue

[@EthanZoid]

Imagine police having guts to go after the rich

[@corvus1238]

I can't.

[@coppershark1973]

They wanted anonymity before speaking. What are they afraid of?

[@Liverpoolboy01]

@@coppershark1973mark my words there would be repercussions against them.

[@davidpalk5010]

Then the Cheif Constable wouldn't get invited to the right dinner parties.

[@KINGSOMALIA]

@@coppershark1973 I can only speak from what I've seen in the USA but when a police who actually holds certain powerful people accountable, they tend to get bullied into losing their job.

[@GG-mu4wg]

Not surprised one bit - excellent reporting from C4.

[@ohyeah2816]

Hunts should be disbanded.

[@cjay8163]

Why should they be disbanded? Should we ban all car driving because a certain number of drivers break the law?

[@django3422]

​@@cjay8163Cars serve a purpose, hunting for sport doesn't.

[@Prickupyourears]

@@cjay8163also driving isn’t illegal

[@alun7006]

​@@cjay8163because it's a barbaric, medieval activity undertaken by entitled psychopaths who have proven time and again that they don't give a toss about anything but slaking their bloodthirst, and think they're above the law.

[@mintywebb]

​@@cjay8163because it is organised hunts, it's common knowledge they continue to hunt. Car drivers would be banned, and that is why drag hunting is being banned now. Your argument was a dumb one, do better.

[@manic2360]

.... Corruption with sociopaths.

[@clive373]

You are very naive if you think the police are not totally corrupt.

[@Caws_a_Bara]

If you believe they are trail hunting I've got some sand to sell you

[@MrRodigan]

Complete and utter hunts

[@redfog42]

😂

[@alishademmery3581]

Abolish all hunting

[@cjay8163]

We should ban all car driving too, because there's a percentage that speed and drink drive and break the law 👍🏻

[@trevfindley]

@@cjay8163 the difference, of course, being that there's a real possibility of law breaking drivers being fined or prosecuted appropriately. Fox hunters - not so much...

[@cjay8163]

@trevfindley well the police are bringing convictions, for instance the M o Justice report showed that 97% of convictions under the hunting act did not involve hunts. But the fact remains just because a few break the law in an activity, doesn't mean you ban the whole activity

[@trevfindley]

@cjay8163 do you think the punishments received by George and Thomas Grant were appropriate to their crimes? Or do you think there was excessive leniency there due to aristocratic influence?

[@cjay8163]

@@trevfindley I don't think that breaking someone's neck is ever justified, but it seems suspended sentences are par for the course for wronguns now, you have to do quite a bit to receive a jail sentence with the current justice system, unless you're hunt sab Paul Allman from Manchester who dresses in balaclavas and threatened a 15 year old school girl, attacked hunt supporters and has a string of previous convictions, but there you go

[@therocketboost]

Some of those that work forces are the same that hunt foxes

[@FirstNameLastName-ev3jk]

The police will mark their own homework, again, and find no wrongdoing, again.

[@MichaelHughes-j5p]

Well done, once again Channel 4.The hunters day they only trail hunt but the truth is there for anyone who is able to watch and record what happens, time and time again. MRH

[@januszdelondres]

well i never, who'd have thought it, two tier justice system, the establishment and the rest.

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

Where is Reform in protesting this blatant example of 2 tier policing.

[@Chris_34]

Leave the foxes alone! 🦊❤

[@whodouthinkuare]

If the brown envelope is thick enough police don't see any crime.

[@munchuriancandidate]

5:43 well that lady was very convincing…

[@lesleyscott938]

Just ban it...using trail hunting to basically continue to hunt.. 😡

[@zerocompanyhq]

3:51 _"please don't chase me"_ said the fox to the toff.

[@freedomfighter8614]

Should be brought up in PMQ's.

[@Liverpoolboy01]

What starmer 🥴

[@andrewgilbertson5356]

Two tier policing in action

[@artifacts5459]

Fair play to the police for speaking out.👍🇬🇧

[@WyldeStylez]

We already have low biodiversity. All the large predators are gone, the wolves are gone, the bears gone, lynxes gone. The difference is that those animals weren't made extinct for fun. T_@ts on horseback

[@yamadakenji4143]

Imagine the police would make a deal with the mafia "Yeah, you can sell drugs here, just keep a low profile ..."

[@JohnDavies-cn3ro]

"Oh, and make sure you slip me and the superintendent sufficient bung to keep us in.....well, whatever we fancy."

[@decoyfox]

Criminals in uniform

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

The leaders who made this crooked deal are not the ones who wear the uniforms. Uniformed police would never go along with something like this unless pressure is applied from the top.

[@clive373]

@@RichardFraser-y9t the bosses all wear uniforms. The plod do whatever they are told. They never cross the thin blue line.

[@wildandbarefoot]

Criminals in aprons and gloves

[@Maxwell-mv9rx]

Put Hunters in jail . Why police keep it out seriously? Hunters are above the Law . They are believing upper classe never go to justice . Wild behavior it is cover up from sport.

[@robertnitrile519]

Far too long it's been' one law for the rich another one for us'

[@hvitserk-x6g]

I managed to stop a massive hunt on farm land , stopped a family of foxes being shot or wripped apart. By the hounds. Back in 2018. Chased a quad bike part of the hunt who had a fox in the box he realised it after me running across 2 fields, after an hr of watching them chit chat they we're gone. They seem like the same group i stopped years ago

[@cjay8163]

Thats a lie, foxes do not live in "families" they are largely solitary particularly in winter territory and home ranges.

[@hvitserk-x6g]

@cjay8163 how do you know? You wasn't there was you? I was. It was around the time time of year in 2018 and the foxes we're being taught how to catch chickens. for food for they're young! If you'd understand how a large hunt works one which isn't legal and they also didn't occupy with the local farms of theyre presence, meaning its not right and unfair on the wildlife. Local residents farmers. Farmers are the soul to the country they provide our produce, and small businesses. We need farms we need wildlife we need produce to feed everyone everywhere. Families of the country

[@cjay8163]

@hvitserk-x6g your lieing again, foxes don't "teach" their young to catch chickens, hunting is instinctive. By the autumn young foxes are independent and disperse to establish their own territorys. If as you say you support farmers, then if they were killing chickens, the farmers livestock then its a pretty good reason to control them? If this actually happened, which it didn't..

[@hvitserk-x6g]

@@cjay8163 I'm not lying at all. You believe your opinion. Foxes do hunt on initiative that's why they we're out hunting for chickens. This hunt is illegal it was unannounced in the area at the time of 2018. If it was legit theyd inform the local area. Which they didn't, foxes nature instinct to hunt for food. They shouldn't be shot or wripped apart by ammunition or hounds!! Especially caged on a rear quad bike

[@hvitserk-x6g]

@@cjay8163 no not lying. And yes foxes to hunt on initiative that's why they're was a family of them being hunted down, which is unfair. The hunt didn't make the locals aware of they're presence meaning they have no right to hunt, hunting should be banned! foxes naturally should hunt for food for they're cubs

[@Yvo19]

"Please don't chase me". Oh, the irony.

[@danielmcfarland6116]

The hunt needs to be banned completely cruel ,no exception

[@bendaniel2271]

They should have their freemason membership revoked for drawing attention to the network by not thinking through the consequences of their deal

[@charlespirate1]

Do the hunt pay for the police presence? Like football clubs have to.

[@davidpalk5010]

No, they don't have to pay for their mates to have an easy day out in the countryside.

[@martinrobinson9061]

Always has and always will be that super wealthy have the power and the control to do whatever they want.

[@cjay8163]

What evidence do you have that people who hunt are all super wealthy?

[@Prickupyourears]

@@cjay8163 they’re not, there are the wealthy ones on the horses and the poor bootlicking Baldrics running on foot tugging their forelocks

[@owenspringer1974]

"as a reputable broadcaster you should make an appointment and not doorstep people" No. Hound them with questions in every public location they go to until you get the answers.

[@williamevans9426]

Some people (relatively wealthy, with friends in high places - if not in high places themselves) above the law? Surely not, Inspector Blindeye?

[@hulksmash6476]

Corrupted to the core, who you know, not what you know. Only one reason to let them carry on, MONEY! In favours of jobs, hard cash and favours. Royal/aristocratic bully's breaking the law with impunity from the police.

[@John-gy7tn]

Gypsies go jail for letting their dogs chase a rabbit. Yet the toffs can kill fox's with their hounds. 2 tier policing.

[@neilbowler7866]

I'm guessing here. Are hunts using the scent of fox for the trail hunt? Why not get the dogs trained to follow a totally different scent, like strawberry vape juice? Fox hunting should be outlawed not banned, it leaves the door slightly ajar.

[@BritWolf1]

BAN FAKE TRAIL HUNTS

[@Liverpoolboy01]

The police commissioners go hand in hand with the police. The female is lying through her teeth!

[@MrJimWinter]

Okay, there needs to be a massive increase in SABs in that area to tackle the crime that the police can’t . It seems the police need a hand so I guess the SABs need to do that . They don’t need to thank them or anything. .

[@davidpearson243]

Masons

[@davidpalk5010]

Not necessary for rural types. The hunt is part of a "field sports" social scene with a strong networking element. Hunts and shoots will usually include senior police.

[@samdumaquis2033]

Good police officer to speak out

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

What is the difference between confidentiality and secrecy?

[@stephenwalker2924]

they are spelled differently and live in different parts of the dictionary

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

​@@stephenwalker2924 ah, that's it

[@JohnDavies-cn3ro]

It depends on who is using the terms, and who they are using them about.

[@davidpalk5010]

Confidentiallity is officially approved whilst secrecy is just a casual arrangement.

[@Spike-ck5tj]

What on earth should be "confidential" about an agreement that effects the whole community in that area? That is nonsense, and if the ICO supports this, then their decision procedures and decision making should be reviewed. Thanks C4 for keeping this story live and in the news.

[@murraycramp3947]

The role of police is to serve and protect the status quo. It's hardly surprising that a society with centuries of class based elitism would result in an outcome like this. The social and economic conditions in Britain are ripe for a revolution. But so few Brits have the necessary mental and physical health , it seems unlikely to happen.

[@Ubawbag]

Well done to the police officers that spoke out against their bosses at the Warwickshire police force . I would imagine they are risking their jobs by being whistle blowers , Whoever made this secret deal should 100% lose their job immediately !!! But if they dont lose then job then maybe next time a drug dealer from a council estate gets caught selling heroin the police should do a secret deal with them lol . Seriously tho it makes me so angry that theres one law for the rich and another for the poor 😤

[@minmog]

UK hunts and their followers are awful people that consider themselves above the law.

[@MrJimWinter]

It would also be interesting to see what links between the police officers and any organisations that both the hunting seniors may or may not have. Friends always look after each other and turn a blind eye.

[@brucewilliams4152]

Police corruption in Warwickshire police

[@coppershark1973]

DISGUSTING

[@curiositycloset2359]

Hearing the police say they need to enforce laws equally is a bit laughable.

[@URBeingLiedTo]

The various Police forces have been selectively enforcing laws for a long time now. The Warwickshire Hunt scenario is a very minor example.

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

2 teir policing anyone?

[@paladro]

another example of cops working for the rich and not the people.

[@darrenmilo9565]

Wow, that’s much more formal than I had ever imagined. And how’s it even legal and being protected by the legal establishment. These lawbreakers are now dictating to us what laws are to be upheld. In what society is that just!? I know it won’t ever happen but there needs to be convictions and custodial sentences for this.