Hosting Ukrainian refugees: what happens when it goes wrong?

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Күн бұрын

It's been five months since the invasion of Ukraine began - and almost as long since the launch of the Homes for Ukraine Scheme, in which people fleeing war could be matched with host families in the UK.
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The scheme started with a flood of requests and offers - and many Ukrainians have settled well into their new homes.
But figures do show a rising number of relationships between hosts and refugees are breaking down. Councils have been given funding to deal with problems - but unofficial groups of volunteers say it's falling to them to do the hard work of mediating and re-homing refugees.
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@_mklein
@_mklein Жыл бұрын
I met a Ukrainian girl last week. She kindly ask me if I could drive her to the church as they set a charity night. She was wearing a Prada jacket when we met then as we walked in she started laughing about the “old or ugly” jackets displayed at the charity! She then wrote a list of furniture that she wants for her flat that she shares with one more person. Full rent paid by the the government…. Sorry but it doesn’t make much sense to me
@lmaoUkrainegotbombed
@lmaoUkrainegotbombed Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@pneron2032
@pneron2032 Жыл бұрын
The government doesn't pay for anything. OUR taxes pay for it
@twosense4989
@twosense4989 Жыл бұрын
At least she and her orada jacket got some dope to drive her to the church.
@izabelajarzabek8877
@izabelajarzabek8877 Жыл бұрын
Welcome into modern day war. I don't know any more if they are in a soo bad situation or Ukraine is just a corrupted country and they want to leave it without a visa because it is not in the EU. In Poland refugees go back to Ukraine for Christmas and than come back to be again poor fleeing from war refugees.
@ukhan4546
@ukhan4546 Жыл бұрын
WOW the nerve
@abba4844
@abba4844 Жыл бұрын
Being racist in a country you’re seeking refuge says a lot about the ukrainians. More people need to reevaluate helping them.
@DrELewis2014
@DrELewis2014 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@Monolidguy
@Monolidguy 4 ай бұрын
I came to Poland 4 years ago but was working with Ukrainians. As of my experience of being the only asian I can say they def racists and horrible ppl. It's dangerous to be the only ppl of color amongst those 💔
@magemyst7245
@magemyst7245 Жыл бұрын
we are only seeing one side of the story. some of these people are entitled and ungrateful. My cousin in London had to deal with some of the most racist Ukrainian refugees ever, my cousin has a heart of gold and very empathetic but cultural differences and anti-black sentiments has left her in a position where she'll no longer just take in strangers. like how the F can you be a racist while someone is trying their best to help feed, shelter, & protect you. the caucacity is unbearable.
@mimymar2215
@mimymar2215 Жыл бұрын
Most are racists and nazists in Ukr. Perhaps, Putin didn't lie. I know this because I come across with many Ukr before the war and after, they are quite nasty and unpleasant people. The minorities in their country are abused, discriminated and overall very badly treated. All minorities - there are communities of Romanians, Russians, etc.. They are discriminated
@prathapanjohn
@prathapanjohn Жыл бұрын
I am sorry to hear this. I encountered some racist attitudes towards me with some Ukrainian refugees. I am not sure why they want to come here if they cannot embrace multiculturalism. It makes me think twice to provide heartfelt wishes for Ukraine to win this war. Most racist and intolerant people I have ever met.
@thomasvogel8799
@thomasvogel8799 6 ай бұрын
Ukrainian Women in the bus here in Switzerland was spitting at the feet of a Black guy in front of his family. I was schocked. He was just sitting there.
@jacquelineithell307
@jacquelineithell307 4 ай бұрын
Spot on l have to work with some believe arrogant entitled people FACT And just a reminder they were advised finding homes was up to them , that soon changed, put before are own
@ВадимВадимович-ь6т
@ВадимВадимович-ь6т 4 ай бұрын
Funny how you can flee death, war, gun fire and missiles but a dark-skinned man is the thing that really scares you. This is why I feel that refugees that act like that truly deserve being refugees
@stevemorse108
@stevemorse108 Жыл бұрын
My girl friend took in in three Ukrainians and things have not gone that well. She raised money for their child got her into a special class in the local school and gave them gifts. One she had an emergency because an employee of hers was not available to clean a flat she rents out and we were not in the country so we couldn’t stand in. She asked if a couple of times they could clean and that she would pay them and they said no. In addition to this we have heard a number of insensitive comments and recently three of the refugees slunk off in secret and found a new place to live not even having the decency of telling their host they were leaving. One of them was in a relationship with a man who lived in a flat in the sake building and she moved her furniture and belongings out without even leaving him a note. As far as we know he is a kind generous and loving man. It is hard not to feel exploited.
@mimymar2215
@mimymar2215 Жыл бұрын
Most of the Ukrainian women don't like to work. Their goal is to find a wealthy man(if from a rich country, even better) and their duty would be to make children and be house wife for life. They want a man to be capable to provide for them and their family. They think they are very special and the most beautiful - however, they get quite ugly almost suddenly - after 35 years old or so - fat with reddish face
@musician1000
@musician1000 2 жыл бұрын
People are people, and whilst we're all the same, we're all so different. It can't be easy, finding a match that works in all directions. Just because people are fleeing a war, doesn't automatically make them nice and easy going. I hope this woman finds the shelter that she deserves.
@milanm403
@milanm403 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, people are people, there are just cultural differences. Education being maybe most important. Problem is that most people accepted refugees for selfish reasons and were thinking they will find good company, show of how good they are or middle aged English man hoping he will find beautiful Ukranian lady etc. The last lady who said that her guests are confrontational, for her the problem was that somebody said to her ,,do this instead of could you help me with this''. Most of it is lost on translation but, she knows that. That is not being confrontational. These people fled the war, you are supposed to help them, not get offended if they are not the same as you. Also , of course they are not confrontational, she is just arrogant and is feeling superior to them and she just think that her way of asking something is the right way.
@musician1000
@musician1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@milanm403 I agree.
@fisf.2148
@fisf.2148 2 жыл бұрын
@@milanm403 there are many stories of Ukrainian refugees being thrown out by their hosts after how difficult it was to relate to them.
@ricepeas
@ricepeas 2 жыл бұрын
People can learn adapt. When they are at a disavantage they may also need to learn how to compromise if it give them some good in the end.
@aesfa56
@aesfa56 2 жыл бұрын
@@milanm403 Bull...t! You don't know what you are talking about. You are already accusing her of being arrogant, without much more information on both parties. If the lady feels a stranger at her own home...it's time to open the door and let them go.
@antonmsk3401
@antonmsk3401 2 жыл бұрын
Remember kids. A refugee is for life not just for Christmas.
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch 2 жыл бұрын
Is that supposed to be funny? Very bad taste you have there. It’s just for a couple of days, weeks or months. The government should help and provide jobs for them so they can stand on their own feet, like in Poland
@antonmsk3401
@antonmsk3401 2 жыл бұрын
@@polishenglishnorwegiandutch don’t shoot the messenger lol. You’re writing that as if I’m responsible for any of this. I’m not the one parading refugees like a pedigree pet as was seen in this video. So kindly wind ya neck in and keep it moving.
@jantomasjuza7907
@jantomasjuza7907 2 жыл бұрын
That is sad. However, people should see the shopping carts of Ukrainian refugees in the Czech Republic. They also buy real estate which the majority of Czechs can hardly afford. That's the reason why the infatuation with Ukraine is cooling off really fast here as well.
@frostflower5555
@frostflower5555 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of it was laundered.
@gabrielbakalarz5722
@gabrielbakalarz5722 2 жыл бұрын
Same in Poland
@renebhnyc2910
@renebhnyc2910 2 жыл бұрын
That’s how they are. I know because there are lots of them here in NYC where I live. But don’t worry they will ran out of the money eventually. Positive thing: that is good for your country economy.
@keiraxxx74
@keiraxxx74 2 жыл бұрын
Ok its good that they have a lot of Money but why they living by people for free
@amonra4046
@amonra4046 2 жыл бұрын
W Polsce jest tak samo
@lizanick2574
@lizanick2574 2 жыл бұрын
Refugees don't appreciate anything. Not even one thankful word. People helped them as much as they can. But its not good enough: i feel like puppet, and etc ..Host is not an angel, just a human with its own psychology. Even one night in host house diverves gratitude.
@boknows3841
@boknows3841 3 ай бұрын
Amen
@linapesz313
@linapesz313 2 жыл бұрын
It is hard to live with someone who you love, let along with a total stranger....
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch 2 жыл бұрын
Then why those people offer to help others if it's hard? Maybe it would be better for them not to make that offer in that situation. Do they want to get some money from the government for it?
@evieshore3270
@evieshore3270 2 жыл бұрын
@@polishenglishnorwegiandutch many times yes
@МашаКаша-ж9ь
@МашаКаша-ж9ь Жыл бұрын
@@polishenglishnorwegiandutch Firstly, £350 per month is not "money", considering increased utility bills, food, gifts, taking refugees around, etc. Plus, it is a reward for the inconvenience in coping with stress of hosting refugees, many of whom are ungrateful, full of themselves and quite confrontational. The Brits wanted to help and still do. The problem is that the programme had to be introduced fast. Yet, now it has to be adjusted.
@olleh3715
@olleh3715 2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for these people, but what about the refugees from From Afghanistan, Syria, Pakistan, Iraq, Yemen, etc? They never were offered this, ever and the war in their countries have killed millions. Also, talking about integration in the UK, no ones gonna talk about how the woman had an issue with the gay couple? Like no disrespect, but beggars can’t be choosers…
@mimymar2215
@mimymar2215 Жыл бұрын
Same thought.. I wouldn't imagine a refugee from Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria to whinge about anything. but show gratitude for being accepted - even in a shelter,. Those refugees are trying hard to learn the language and find a job as soon as possible, rather than expecting everything to be provided and then neither a thank you, just complain.
@natashaabdurahman4026
@natashaabdurahman4026 Жыл бұрын
@@mimymar2215 when i was in the UK from 1994-2003, i worked with afghan refugees and when they arrived in the uk, within a few days they were working and learning english.
@Itoshimi
@Itoshimi 9 ай бұрын
@@natashaabdurahman4026 very different from Ukrainians. My cousin hosts a family and 1 year later, none of them speak English nor want to try.
@DavidZ4-gg3dm
@DavidZ4-gg3dm 3 ай бұрын
@@natashaabdurahman4026 They have a very low employment rate.
@leylag1466
@leylag1466 2 жыл бұрын
Why does it say the host family failed? Nice, put the blame on others. We only know one side of the story. Furthermore not even families or friends can live together without major issues arising. You can’t just throw complete strangers with significantly different cultures, customs, characters, expectations, religion and language together and call it a medley. No matter if you receive money for it or not. These people need professional help and support. Leaving home, escaping a war they come with baggage and no civilian is equipped to handle all of that. Especially when we have our own life and problems.
@Dokus360
@Dokus360 2 жыл бұрын
This is why we should not support this war, any war or governments that lead us into conflict and wars. What we are presented with here is half a dozen cases who were lucky enough to be ‘wanted’ be it for a few weeks. Now just images what the people fleeing the wars the UK and allies have started, funded and facilitated have to go through.
@SajSajidmk
@SajSajidmk 2 жыл бұрын
The same Ukraine & Poland and Hungary Refused to Accept refugee from Syria Iraq Yemen etc etc...
@equalitypeace1695
@equalitypeace1695 2 жыл бұрын
People should of thought of that when they opened their homes to refugees . These are human beings not items you can change your mind . The novelty has worn off and where are these people supposed to go
@leylag1466
@leylag1466 2 жыл бұрын
@@equalitypeace1695 unfortunately people jump into situations without considering potential issues. Furthermore it is somehow woke to shelter an Ukrainian refugee. Until like you says the novelty wears off and the “fish “starts to stink.
@equalitypeace1695
@equalitypeace1695 2 жыл бұрын
@@leylag1466 yes but these are human beings and when they get kicked out where are they supposed to go . This policy has not been thought through properly the same old story with this government. They need to put a stop to this scheme . It’s not fair on the refugees . People need to think about it thoroughly. It is a commitment and these refugees come with children . It looks bad on us as a country if we can’t accommodate these people once they get evicted . We already have a shortage supply of accommodation in this country for local people
@abbesson15
@abbesson15 2 жыл бұрын
There is NO war in Odesa.
@jacquelineithell307
@jacquelineithell307 4 ай бұрын
Didn’t a member of the Royal family visit Ukrainian land last week did they have a free none war day places are safe there !!!!!!!
@dianas2754
@dianas2754 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Ukrainian family staying with me in the US. A woman with 2 kids. (4 year old and a newborn) It's exhausting and a lot to deal with especially when you are complete strangers to each other. We don't get paid for taking in refugees in the U.S. like they do in Europe. Even so I can't imagine just kicking the family out. If you can't handle hosting a family, at least help them find other accommodations.
@mat_j
@mat_j 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry money needs to go to arms dealers
@Pluto60
@Pluto60 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why open season The governments spend a lot money on , illegal human trafficking department and accommodation . I agreed on helping peopleS, it dangerous situation for the landlord and guests too. It is gods angels 👼 works duties 🙊🙉🙈🤦‍♀️🐝😇💸💗💗💗
@brentwood1334
@brentwood1334 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard of a Ukrainian who had an affair with one of the hosts family and they ran off together
@The_Savage_Wombat
@The_Savage_Wombat 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's very sad how European refugees received such discrimination in the US when refugees from the Middle East, Aftghanistan and Africa receive full benefits indefinitely.
@Habib-fz3zq
@Habib-fz3zq 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Savage_Wombat is you comment a joke of some sorts??!
@wellbehaveddogs7694
@wellbehaveddogs7694 2 жыл бұрын
My house insurance company (AXA) kindly wrote to me stating that if I decided to take a Ukrainian refugee into my home, they would not increase the house insurance bill. I wrote back, thanking them for their kind offer, and asked if they would extend this practice to refugees from Libya, Somalia, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, etc For some reason, they have not written back.
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t help to get any benefits from it. You do it because you want to, you are privileged enough and you can. If you want, you can take in any refugee from any country you want, even if it’s not European country or your neighbour whose situation affects your country directly. What is a problem?
@Cola_Dulz
@Cola_Dulz 2 жыл бұрын
Because it's obvious provocation that needs no response:-))
@realbanter
@realbanter 2 жыл бұрын
WELL BEHAVED DOGS No they would not respond because it was a wise question. The west do not care for the Ukrainians anymore than the others, they are just tools in a much bigger game.
@Nayanexx
@Nayanexx 2 жыл бұрын
You are a genius. Sometimes we need to make use of irony to softly slappy the hypocrite bureaucrats in the face.
@user3bf653f
@user3bf653f 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cola_Dulz No, this needs to respond for sure. Rules is equal for all nations. Isn't the base of democraty? If rules are different, this is nazism.
@bodhisattva2348
@bodhisattva2348 Жыл бұрын
Will never host a ukraine refugee ever.
@aric85
@aric85 2 жыл бұрын
Well its to be expected really. It's not easy living with other people at the best of times. Let alone a whole family with different customs etc.
@josimpson7999
@josimpson7999 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I think maybe some people who take refugees into their home don’t consider the ramifications of that.
@lizanick2574
@lizanick2574 2 жыл бұрын
People just try to help, but they have their limits. Even one night in warm home deserves gratitude. This refugees don't know how to appriseate any help. They are: not enough people...
@SajSajidmk
@SajSajidmk 2 жыл бұрын
The same Ukraine & Poland and Hungary Refused to Accept refugee from Syria Iraq Yemen etc etc...
@lizanick2574
@lizanick2574 2 жыл бұрын
@@SajSajidmk Should they? -)
@Aj_Porsche
@Aj_Porsche 2 жыл бұрын
@@lizanick2574 should we?
@PureBadBreath
@PureBadBreath 2 жыл бұрын
The hosting families needs to be properly vetted. Seriously, don't even know if the hosts family are in serious individuals or even have ethical intention.
@Mich6961
@Mich6961 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I've been thinking this entire time though there has to be some kind of vetting process otherwise single creeps would be up for being 'hosts' in droves.
@brentwood1334
@brentwood1334 2 жыл бұрын
The Ukrainians aren't perfect either
@LambsyLamb
@LambsyLamb 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't happen with Syrian refugees! Syrians aren't entitled, I know I met loads of them in Germany.
@agneag
@agneag 2 жыл бұрын
JEEEZUS is being perfect has to equal being nasty and threatening someones living situation?:/
@LambsyLamb
@LambsyLamb 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just thinking can't everyone just compromise? The Brits should be aware that Ukrainian customs might be a bit different from ours. And the Ukrainians should be grateful that they're out of harm's way and living off the kindness of strangers. All anyone needs to do is come to an understanding! It's not as though this is a permanent arrangement or a blame game! I know some English and Italian people that absolutely will not get along with strangers whereas some are happy to try and learn and get along!
@kaha6987
@kaha6987 2 жыл бұрын
Ukrainiens are the luckiest people at war in the world
@Cappellano
@Cappellano 2 жыл бұрын
This is a common issue with our government, placing the responsibilities of the state on the individual while simultaneously taking the rights of the individual and giving them to the state. Many people predicted this would happen. My heart goes out to all Ukrainian refugees who find themselves in worst situations than they left.
@raymondk2202
@raymondk2202 2 жыл бұрын
lots of words coming from a person that has come up with zero solutions on this topic. But hey, as long as you can cry about and point at ur government it's all good right? Grudge, look it up, and do something with it.
@bazle64
@bazle64 2 жыл бұрын
@@raymondk2202 Ukraine full of neo nazis
@raymondk2202
@raymondk2202 2 жыл бұрын
@es e and in the mean time you are using oil.
@YA-hm5zy
@YA-hm5zy 2 жыл бұрын
@@raymondk2202 it's the governments job to find solutions you wet wipe. Instead of expecting people to do it for them. They helped start the war.
@MelioraCogito
@MelioraCogito 2 жыл бұрын
Precisely what _individual rights_ is Westminster taking away from you, while burdening you with greater _personal responsibility?_ Shake your head... Hear anything? Thought so.
@robertyoung8785
@robertyoung8785 2 жыл бұрын
How about speaking to people who have taken them in and immediately regretted it, there's more of them than this would have you believe. They're families out there who have found them a nightmare.
@Itoshimi
@Itoshimi 9 ай бұрын
No they won’t do that. The ones in power can’t have white refugees suffer the same fate as brown and black ones.
@bexie6791
@bexie6791 2 жыл бұрын
What about British homeless??
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch 2 жыл бұрын
What did you do about it yourself?
@jeanlilymanwaring7125
@jeanlilymanwaring7125 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, that's where the government ministers are as blind as bats !
@hbsupreme1499
@hbsupreme1499 Жыл бұрын
@@polishenglishnorwegiandutch where's the government you pay taxes to instead of spending all this money for the globalist Neo imperialistic conflicts like you're still the British Empire why don't you fix your home first
@prathapanjohn
@prathapanjohn Жыл бұрын
What about it?
@roni2977
@roni2977 2 жыл бұрын
They wanted a part time refugee... 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 letting strangers in your home isnt a joke
@gorgeousginger8405
@gorgeousginger8405 2 жыл бұрын
'Remember a Puppy isn't just for Christmas' :)
@madmike1708
@madmike1708 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I already have a picture in my head of what this couple is like....Probably in their 60s, they have a pretty good middle class life, a pretty big house (400 to 500K kinda house). Either retired or close to it and winding down on their work commitments. Probably a bit out of touch, likes to keep up appearances, the first to tell you how progressive and nice they are (Even though they probably were total assholes in their youth, till the tv told them to stop being so nasty) and kinda just did this on a whim "Oh look at those poor people, Gerald dear, lets have a refugee", probably never once in their head they even thought of the situation as "This is another human being from a war torn country that MIGHT not be able to speak english"...Nope...It's like having a dog innit?
@lilianafarran1527
@lilianafarran1527 2 жыл бұрын
@@madmike1708 that is so damn true! 😂
@The_Savage_Wombat
@The_Savage_Wombat 2 жыл бұрын
@@madmike1708 Well, at least they gave it a shot.
@lolabow5421
@lolabow5421 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I had someone stay for two months. I helped her get a free place at art college this September but because my Landlord in the end said no to me taking part in the Homes for Ukraine scheme I couldn’t let her stay for too long (this was all for free and I would need to get help towards the extra costs soon.) My elderly Mum had to come and stay and because she is shielding the Ukrainian girl had to go to temporary accommodation until the home checks are done on the mansion she is eventually moving to with a retired couple in Canterbury. She left today and never said Thankyou. This really hurt my feelings. Sharing your home with a stranger is hard. You can have the best intentions but miscommunications can can indeed askew things. I spent a lot of time trying to help her over these last months. Anyway I wish her well and at least I was a stepping stone on her path.
@Habib-fz3zq
@Habib-fz3zq 2 жыл бұрын
I am astonished that some people would rather welcome someone with a different language and culture into their homes for the foreseeable future just because they watched a program on the BBC rather than take a walk in Manchester city center and welcome an English/British person into their home and see them make it back into society.
@elcristoph7380
@elcristoph7380 2 жыл бұрын
Because the British person who steals to support a crack habit is more of a problem then the middle class family from Ukraine..
@Habib-fz3zq
@Habib-fz3zq 2 жыл бұрын
@@elcristoph7380 Not all are on crack. Lots are just going through hard times and sleeping quietly in cars, parks and hostels. My comment isn't against Ukrainians, it would apply to all others refugees no matter where they are from. It is a very difficult task and I salute those who have the skills, stamina and heart to do that for a long period of time. These are people, not pets so people must be ready to welcome them everyday until they can be self-serving
@denvernugg1151
@denvernugg1151 2 жыл бұрын
You would come home and your house would be on bricks....oh wait.
@SA-ff9uc
@SA-ff9uc 2 жыл бұрын
Bad advice unless you want to be raped/murdered or have all your valuables stolen.
@alexlong3714
@alexlong3714 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, charity should start at home, No ?
@readthrough978
@readthrough978 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to all that " Ukrainians are similar to us, they have European culture" they have the same values as us here etc, as opposed to refugees from other parts of the world?
@jwjw5412
@jwjw5412 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Cola_Dulz
@Cola_Dulz 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ukrainians are the same and have the same culture, but a lot of people think of them as some kind of puppies or pets.
@readthrough978
@readthrough978 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cola_Dulz British and Ukrainian cultures are quite a bit different. Ukrainians have so much more similarities with Russians.
@СкибаКатерина
@СкибаКатерина 2 жыл бұрын
@@readthrough978 no they do not have similarities with russians. Never compare Ukrainians to russians, it is an insult.
@user3bf653f
@user3bf653f 2 жыл бұрын
@@СкибаКатерина yes. For russians.
@Oktaviii
@Oktaviii 2 жыл бұрын
I once hosted a person whose house got destroyed by hurricane. It was definitely very difficult to have a complete stranger to stay at my home. People have different personalities and different ways of looking at things which inevitably leads to a conflict. I’m not sure that it’s a good idea to host if you don’t have extra properties that could be used. If you own multiple properties and could for example use your vacation house to host people then that’s great. But living together in one home with complete strangers is definitely not for everyone despite their good intentions
@wrestlingp
@wrestlingp 2 жыл бұрын
The thing I feel really bad about for Ukraine and the people is that other countries media, companies and governments latched onto the war and made the Ukrainian people's plight into a trend, even a marketing tool for them to say "We're supporting you, we're doing the *right* thing", now that the trend has had it's day people are beginning to move on from it and these poor people have to suffer the consequences of being chewed up and spat out.
@liberationfromcolonialisma4432
@liberationfromcolonialisma4432 2 жыл бұрын
Did you also feel bad for Syrian and Afghan and Iraqi refugees?
@lauralishes1
@lauralishes1 2 жыл бұрын
@@liberationfromcolonialisma4432 No, we don't want people in our country who lie they are fleeing war from France. They want to flee an Islamic country then try and change our country into the Islamic cesspit they came from. 90% wanted the Taliban in charge, now they have it. There's literally youtubers going to Syria, check out Bald and Bankrupt's latest video, there's no safety concerns, buildings are being rebuilt. I've seen it in so many videos, it's nothing like Ukraine, there's no bombs flying into civilian buildings, hospitals, schools, there isnt thousands of families being thrown into mass graves with their hands tied behind their back, children sexually assaulted in front of their dead parents. The list goes on. Ukrainian's don't hate us or want to protest about Muhammad being shown in a movie because it's "blasphemous." They don't behead teachers over a cartoon. If you want an entire country to live by the Qur'an, don't come to a democratic country. Stay where you are. Ukrainians also didn't want to leave and want to go home.
@The_Savage_Wombat
@The_Savage_Wombat 2 жыл бұрын
@@liberationfromcolonialisma4432 Not as much since these refugees receive full support from the US government, including free housing, food, education, job training indefinitely. Ukrainian refugees must find a host family to pay for everything and they have to leave after two years. It's a huge burden on the host family. Such discrimination against European refugees is very sad.
@Siempre1978
@Siempre1978 2 жыл бұрын
I hog z
@maigepresents5840
@maigepresents5840 2 жыл бұрын
@@liberationfromcolonialisma4432 nah bro, they aren't white enough...
@cheyennem9218
@cheyennem9218 2 жыл бұрын
The homophobic lady should've stopped in Poland instead
@fisf.2148
@fisf.2148 2 жыл бұрын
Not enough money there for her and many more of her entitled fellow racists/homophobes to stay. Moldova, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania were not good enough either.
@cheyennem9218
@cheyennem9218 2 жыл бұрын
@@fisf.2148 Ironic!
@mimymar2215
@mimymar2215 Жыл бұрын
@@fisf.2148 you've nailed it
@AK-xj2di
@AK-xj2di Жыл бұрын
A Ukrainian family was complaining that the host did not clean the house for them, I 'll never have a stranger living in my house, no way esp the ungrateful & self entitled ones, help refugees in other way but don't bring strangers to your home.
@vladsview194
@vladsview194 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@Itoshimi
@Itoshimi 9 ай бұрын
I heard that a lot. Ukrainian immigrants are terrible guests
@baqaqipekhebi7148
@baqaqipekhebi7148 2 жыл бұрын
Ukrainians should be less demanding. UK people are also going through hard times and are extending help at a time when many of them are financially strapped. In Germany, the government is providing refugees with money for food and housing and that is even when they have a full time job. Many businesses are taking refugees without knowledge of German language while other immigrants who spent tons of money learning German are not hired and are still unemployed and can’t get benefits. The refugee I opened my home to (without payment from the government or her) had the nerve to tell me homelessness was a lifestyle and that the German government owed her. As a taxpayer in Germany I found that so insulting. Ukrainians should be careful, for now the whole world is sympathetic towards you, but this really is not our war. The war that began in 2014 began because the Ukrainian government was corrupt and people in the east objected to the fact a leader that was democratically elected was chased out. Russian involvement, of course muddied the situation further and is totally wrong, but this is a conflict that is your responsibility not the West’s and nobody owes you anything!
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t know politics too much and your shouldn’t speak about Ukrainian politics if you don’t know it. I am sorry but on this part you are every wrong
@baqaqipekhebi7148
@baqaqipekhebi7148 2 жыл бұрын
@@polishenglishnorwegiandutch on the contrary I spent more than 20 years there!
@poksana5476
@poksana5476 2 жыл бұрын
Baqaqi Pekhebi, I was born and raised in Ukraine. Do you know what I understood just after the war started? There are no honest governments in this world, all of them corrupt. The only difference is the west uses different word to call their corruption. It's lobism. What happened in Ukraine in 2014 was the will of people. The government before 2014 wasn't chosen by us but rather by Russia. Yankovich was a criminal who served his time in jail. Ukraine is an independent country, we are not Russians.
@baqaqipekhebi7148
@baqaqipekhebi7148 2 жыл бұрын
@@poksana5476 that may be true, but why does it excuse refugees behaving in this way? And again, this is still not my war!
@nonnad9210
@nonnad9210 2 жыл бұрын
@@baqaqipekhebi7148 How is it not your war if the collective West supports and funds this war. Seriously. Germany is responsible just like US and others. That's why EU hosts refugees. However it has nothing to do with regular folks who are just trying to help Ukrainians.
@briangatt2956
@briangatt2956 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who's dumb enough to take strangers into their home refugees or not is kind of asking for it.
@jeanlilymanwaring7125
@jeanlilymanwaring7125 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I agree Brian - as the old phrase goes - 'never the twain shall meet' !
@krob2327
@krob2327 2 жыл бұрын
This is the thing. Where are they going to live long term? I’m glad they are here but they can’t live in the host homes forever as it’s too much for any family after a while
@SA-ff9uc
@SA-ff9uc 2 жыл бұрын
They can get jobs and then further stress the housing market. It's great being British.
@krob2327
@krob2327 2 жыл бұрын
@@SA-ff9uc yeah I thought that. Could Wipe out the wage rises people in ‘low skilled’ jobs are seeing. It’s an odd one. Guess it depends on what’s left of Ukraine if they can return. It’s to much pressure to house them in family homes long term.
@mfitzy100
@mfitzy100 2 жыл бұрын
Back to Ukraine, their own country
@pablobustamante8458
@pablobustamante8458 2 жыл бұрын
It's a long shot bit the amount of money that gets paid in taxes for useless things like the upkeep of Buckingham Palace. Let the royals pay their own way, stop subsidising them and build cheap high rise accommodation for anyone who needs it. Lower the rent so people can afford it and they can use it as a stepping stone to more permanent accommodation
@denvernugg1151
@denvernugg1151 2 жыл бұрын
@@pablobustamante8458 Socialism never works, the human race is too greedy. Sorry to burst your bubble.
@SajSajidmk
@SajSajidmk 2 жыл бұрын
The same Ukraine & Poland and Hungary Refused to Accept refugee from Syria Iraq Yemen etc etc...
@reginagabius8438
@reginagabius8438 2 жыл бұрын
I came to the UK as an international student and got on with my host family just fine but I’ve heard stories from other students that their host families restricted them from taking their ham for breakfast (as it was reserved for lunch), taking shower past 10pm, using hot water more than 10 minutes when showering and they even portioned their milk and cereal! The cultural differences are very significant and Brits are more reserved and calculated with their “generosity”. I do understand both however, the young lady who feels like a trophy for being shown around and a lady who doesn’t get “please” or “thank you”
@jacklight4721
@jacklight4721 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think this has anything to do with being British , i've heard similar stories for people staying in all sorts of countries. I think it's more to do with the prvilidge of being able to host, i.e. more middle class / and less generous as well as the idea being attractive to people who just want to "show off" as a host but don't understand the commitment.
@SA-ff9uc
@SA-ff9uc 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you eating somebody's lunch ham for breakfast? It's for sandwiches. Get your own ham.
@chbry1050
@chbry1050 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you need to shower for more then 10 minutes there is water cost additionally you should be preparing your body for the shower for 10 minute's
@brownsugar9942
@brownsugar9942 2 жыл бұрын
I can understand if you have a meal planned for the next day and then someone eats the ham, I can see why that would be of concern. Also taking a shower after 10.00 pm is being inconsiderate as far as I am concerned. It’s inconsiderate to your neighbours and others who may be sleeping, including people who have to get up early to go to work or children who have to go to school. And, why do you need to shower for 10 mins. Next time you have a shower time yourself, you will see that 10 mins is a long time to be showering. But having said all that I do get your point, people need to be considered of each other and not just assume people are being unhelpful or mean.
@Habib-fz3zq
@Habib-fz3zq 2 жыл бұрын
To choose to come to the UK as a student is different than having to run away and not be psychologically ready for that type of change, even harder if you have kids or have passed the age to patience with everything.
@SA-ff9uc
@SA-ff9uc 2 жыл бұрын
Another one of this government's triumphant blunders.
@jules263
@jules263 2 жыл бұрын
Really simple question. Why are we sending Afghan, Syrian refugees to Rwanda but paying UK citizens to house those from Ukraine? It’s pretty black and white…
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp 5 ай бұрын
The cultural differences are even bigger between Europeans and non-Europeans. As you know very well but just like to bully people with the word racist
@Kalecimus
@Kalecimus 2 жыл бұрын
Going to someone's house living rent free and expecting to be treated like a celebrity? What were you thinking?
@nikahelicopter
@nikahelicopter 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what people in Ukraine do to their guests, treat them super well. Btw most of refugees propose to pay something for the rent (I am in Germany, so at least here it is like that). However, hosts refused to take money with angelic face and promised that the family can stay as much as they need to. And then, they used this totally unequal position to be able to kick people out whenever they want. My boyfriend’s family is like that, both parents dentists, sister is a researcher and has already got job here. The reason to kick them out for the two 80y.o. Germans in a huge house was: we miss our balcony and we need more living space, I like to read on that sofa where you sleep.
@frankdunne2401
@frankdunne2401 2 жыл бұрын
I believe they get paid well.Maybe, the couple went on claiming.In ireland you can get over 400 euros per week.
@lolabow5421
@lolabow5421 2 жыл бұрын
Wow are you sure?
@MrEuler-vf5nc
@MrEuler-vf5nc 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikahelicopter That's why many non-white students complained about how horribly racist Ukrainians were
@nikahelicopter
@nikahelicopter 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrEuler-vf5nc how do you make such a logical conclusion from my comment
@svby
@svby 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but the gay couple thing - you’re getting a home for free and you’re complaining that you don’t want that around your kids?? Seriously? Surely war is worst.
@adjoaosei87
@adjoaosei87 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Ungrateful
@Gmtar
@Gmtar 2 жыл бұрын
Its not appropriate to have a mother and child staying with a gay couple. I understand the need to house the refugees, but its not an appropriate living situation. If the women was there by herself then that would be different. The presence of the child is not appropriate and she was perfectly correct to highlight that.
@jasonthewatchmansson8873
@jasonthewatchmansson8873 2 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious watching her trying to hide her homophobia: "I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I just don't want those people around my kids!" lol. Send her to Donbass, where the men firing artillery shells at her will be heterosexual.
@jasonthewatchmansson8873
@jasonthewatchmansson8873 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gmtar It's very appropriate.
@martinrolecek8837
@martinrolecek8837 2 жыл бұрын
I've grown around Ukrainians in CZ (approx 5-8%of population there were Ukrainian immigrants at the time) and unfortunately majority of Ukrainians are brought up to be homophobic racists.
@anastasiiapanchenko7164
@anastasiiapanchenko7164 2 жыл бұрын
This is a horrific but predictable outcome. Like many have said, the government didn't properly think what to do with such refugees and where to place them and its completely on the government, not those families. I am myself a refugee in Ireland but I consider myself lucky as I couldn't dream of a better hosting family and environment. But here many of the families get vetted before taking in a refugee, which is right. Overall I haven't heard of such cases in Ireland but that could be also because majority of the refugees live in the state-provided hotels which is a better idea for the safety reasons.
@Dokus360
@Dokus360 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely said.
@jessicag.3694
@jessicag.3694 Жыл бұрын
Much better. Besides added safety and independence, that would provide a built-in community.
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp 4 ай бұрын
It's predictable because of your culture. You are the rudest, most obnoxious, most ungrateful, most arrogant people I've ever encountered. You come from a hard brutal culture which leaves little old ladies sleeping in the train stations. I saw it with my own eyes when I went to Ukraine. Your country is one of the most corrupt places in Europe.
@jjwien8593
@jjwien8593 2 жыл бұрын
Citizens should start standing up against their politician turning them into a refugee by engaging in a senseless war.
@namiin3034
@namiin3034 2 жыл бұрын
Very cruel to invite people and then mistreat them, the shoe can easily be on the other foot sooner or later.
@jessicadorion8507
@jessicadorion8507 2 жыл бұрын
What if they were really sketchy roommates though? Lol
@namiin3034
@namiin3034 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessicadorion8507 would you invite strangers into your home? I wouldn't, I would help them in other ways, it's not like we have massive homes in the uk the average 4 to 3 bedroom everyone is in each others faces.
@jessicadorion8507
@jessicadorion8507 2 жыл бұрын
@@namiin3034 yeah I am not even fond of having people I do know in my space for too long lol
@namiin3034
@namiin3034 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessicadorion8507 😂 I feel you.
@trkstatrksta8410
@trkstatrksta8410 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessicadorion8507 Yep. Like rotten prawns, after three or four days, guests start to stink😃😃😃
@HappyBear376
@HappyBear376 2 жыл бұрын
We can not house our own people!
@Itoshimi
@Itoshimi 9 ай бұрын
So? They’re white immigrants. They should be first in everything. Given the best food, best accommodations, free massages. They have the sane culture and values as you! You should be greatful
@reviewmaster4x467
@reviewmaster4x467 2 жыл бұрын
There's no war in Kiev people are actually shopping and going about the daily lives.
@krob2327
@krob2327 2 жыл бұрын
Yes all very odd
@ВуйкоМітіч
@ВуйкоМітіч 2 жыл бұрын
Kiev is now a bit safer than Mykolaiv, or Kharkiv, but nowhere in Ukraine is safe. Suberbs of Kiev were bombded yesterday.
@baqaqipekhebi7148
@baqaqipekhebi7148 2 жыл бұрын
They can be attacked at any time. That hardly makes a city safe!
@user3bf653f
@user3bf653f 2 жыл бұрын
Same like Western Ukraina. There is not front line, watch videos, they are taking sunbathes. Front line in Donbass, but no one refugee from there, why? All 5 mln from Western part.
@gabrielbakalarz5722
@gabrielbakalarz5722 2 жыл бұрын
@@user3bf653f cos most of people there consider themselves as Russians. That's what people from West Ukraine didn't like, as they want to be pro EU. That's the origin of this conflict. They was maidan( pro EU ) and antimaidan( pro Russian).Those from east who were after EU already left this part , only Prorussian people stayed ( ones who didn't want to move away)and now they are being killed by West ukraine. Around 2.5 mln from East Ukraine moved to Russia. The whole conflict would hadnever happen if Soviet Union was divided differently.
@shirleybarrett7630
@shirleybarrett7630 2 жыл бұрын
I think the world would be better if our countries looked after their own first. There would probably be more respect from the public if you respected ours too. We've been left second our own on the streets. They never asked for that either. Absolute blindness. That's wen it hurts the 99% that's all we are.. the poor.. And we take on the world to help at least, we're trying more than most. 1%...
@krob2327
@krob2327 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The white working class as being treated terribly. Peoole in Surrey and devon are so pro diversity as they know their areas will remain 99 per cent white and ‘they’ will live in the cheap areas
@krob2327
@krob2327 2 жыл бұрын
@@delfine7163 agreed. I’m pro refugees coming here. But they aren’t distributed fairly.
@lenitaa7938
@lenitaa7938 2 жыл бұрын
We need to help the Refugees! It's a humane thing to do! It's selfish to only think of ourselves! There are already many orgs that help our own seniors, the poor, the disabled! Of course, more can be done! How would you feel, if your family is running from war, or a natural disaster, and all neighbours shut their doors in your family's face?!
@Itoshimi
@Itoshimi 9 ай бұрын
But they’re white. Aren’t they one of you? At least that’s why the news tell us we should care for Ukraine
@jazzyoe24
@jazzyoe24 2 жыл бұрын
I predicted this from the start unfortunately. There will be plenty of people who will take in a Ukrainian refugee just for the money the government will give them, only to kick them out when they have enough to spend on a holiday. There needs to be more monitoring of host families, such a travesty.
@Zenovarse
@Zenovarse 2 жыл бұрын
Verifying that a host family is fully compliant with a number of regulations, especially when minors are involved, is a long and complicated process. Not just DBS check for every member of the host family. The responsible host have to go through the same training and checks a boarding school has to go through, so that they know how to deal with problems a minor may encounter e.g. radicalization, bullying, drugs etc. The visa process on the other hand is much simpler, to get as many people in as quickly as possible. This discrepancy means that to get enough host families, they must naturally simplify the process of monitoring the hosts.
@Dokus360
@Dokus360 2 жыл бұрын
You’re so right. Many do it for bragging rights and ego massages too. As the lady in the interview said, she was being paraded around by her host.
@FulhamboyH
@FulhamboyH 2 жыл бұрын
A couple of jobs I’ve worked at have Ukraine people loving there and both said how rude and ungrateful they are 🤷‍♂️
@mimymar2215
@mimymar2215 Жыл бұрын
We have around one million of Ukr refugees and they proved to be rude and ungrateful, indeed. People have begun to switch their mind regarding refugees from Ukr
@jeanlilymanwaring7125
@jeanlilymanwaring7125 2 жыл бұрын
To live with a host family is not a good idea for either parties - the breakdown of these relationships was obvious from the start - I could never understand the desperation of some families opening up their homes, as kind as they probably are, it just doesn't work !
@hubreydavid7864
@hubreydavid7864 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't she join the army, nothing wrong with her. That hospitalities was not offered to Black refugees.
@zingingcutie8421
@zingingcutie8421 2 жыл бұрын
Me and my flatmates have hosted a complete Ukrainian family. We were checked by a council member. But they didn't do a dbs check until 3 weeks before they moved out. They were a pleasure and we are so happy they found a flat
@liberationfromcolonialisma4432
@liberationfromcolonialisma4432 2 жыл бұрын
Keep the same energy for Afghan and Syrian refugees
@The_Savage_Wombat
@The_Savage_Wombat 2 жыл бұрын
@@liberationfromcolonialisma4432 How many of these people would treat a European refugee better?
@tvs9978
@tvs9978 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Savage_Wombat these people?
@elainekent3551
@elainekent3551 2 жыл бұрын
@@liberationfromcolonialisma4432 we have more than enough of them coming over illegally on Dingys
@kblchannel9411
@kblchannel9411 2 жыл бұрын
@@elainekent3551 in 5 months hundreds thousand Ukrainians cames if you give afghans and Syrian like this free visa and free homes they won’t use illegal ways the reality is because you don’t like them they don’t have blue eyes or blond hair they way Ukrainian has been welcome no African or other refugees are welcomed here so far
@Beyonder1987
@Beyonder1987 2 жыл бұрын
Ukrainians were like a new pet. Its nice to pet them until your bored.
@jeanlilymanwaring7125
@jeanlilymanwaring7125 2 жыл бұрын
When the novelty wears off !
@mimymar2215
@mimymar2215 Жыл бұрын
They can get you bored quickly
@joebullwinkle5099
@joebullwinkle5099 2 жыл бұрын
In my experience there are quite large cultural differences between Western Europeans & Eastern Europeans. To me it appeared that the Eastern Europeans that I dealt with didn't have great English skills and where very abrupt in their communications which could easily be misinterpreted as a lack of consideration. Add to that these people coming from a war zone and it sure looks like lots and lots of understanding is needed by Western hosts.
@MK-lm6hb
@MK-lm6hb 2 жыл бұрын
Your generalisations are - forgive me my lack of consideration - silly. What do you mean by Western Europeans and Eastern Europeans? What "large cultural differences" did you notice between them, apart from Eastern Europeans being impolite? As to the English skills, check "EF English Proficiency Index" and you will see that some Western nations are quite low in ranking.
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch 2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? The lack of language skills? We live in XXI century. Everyone learns English nowadays. Abrupt in communication? What does it even mean? Being honest?😂 Also, coming from the war zone is exactly the point why they are leaving their home. It’s not because of their own convenience. This is why the other privileged and safe side should show more compassion and understanding😅 There is indeed a world of a difference between us and I live in the Central European country. Where is your humanity and empathy?
@mimmiblu6138
@mimmiblu6138 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by "Western Europeans"? Personally the more I get to know Northern Europe and the less I feel I belong to the "West" culturally. What is the "West"? I've been working with Ukranian refugees in Italy and we've had different problems, mainly due to the fact that most of them are obviously traumatised and culturally we expect people to be rather cheerful in casual social situations, which was pratically impossible for them. The only time I saw my Ukranian students smile and be happy was when I brought them cherries after one if them had told me that he could not afford them... They thanked me by sprinting to the toilet to wash them. Obviously they thanked me, too, but we do not expect "please" and "thank you" all the time, not because we're any better than you, simply because we don't use them either if not for major favours. For me a heart-felt smile is more important than all verbal pleasantries and boy how they smiled on that occasion. Aren't we all the product of our own national culture more than of a "Western" one?
@lenitaa7938
@lenitaa7938 2 жыл бұрын
@@polishenglishnorwegiandutch She is right! In Eastern Europe, people are much more straightforward in communicating, less likely to smile, less friendly to strangers, etc, which comes across as rude and impolite! In the West, people are more likely to say, please, and thank you, to smile, and word questions, requests differently! I'm from Eastern Europe and know what I'm saying.. It was a huge adjustment to adjust to my life in Canada!
@lenitaa7938
@lenitaa7938 2 жыл бұрын
@@mimmiblu6138 Frankly, in Eastern Europe, it's uncommon to smile at strangers! If they do, the others will think they are 'crazy'! 'Why are you smiling at me? I don't know you!' They are more cautious! They save their friendliness and smiles for family and close friends! You have to earn their trust! Once you do, you will be welcomed into their circle!
@edytamoszczynska
@edytamoszczynska 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I don't have anything to say to the lady that run the war and now doesn't want to live with gay couple. Sorry not sorry
@ibinfo-tube5063
@ibinfo-tube5063 2 жыл бұрын
📣This host family arrangements are not safe for anybody because both people ( host and the guest) really don't know about what they will do after a few weeks or months 🤔
@elenabarskaya7127
@elenabarskaya7127 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Host will collect 350 pounds/month of course.
@ibinfo-tube5063
@ibinfo-tube5063 2 жыл бұрын
@@elenabarskaya7127 >>> Exactly 350 pounds, that's why the hosts shouldn't change their behavior with guests or expect any kind of dominance, if they took them as a guest they should be treated as a guest fairly.
@chadimirputin2282
@chadimirputin2282 2 жыл бұрын
When virtue signalling goes too far lol.
@myviews9369
@myviews9369 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@MrRodigan
@MrRodigan 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Tory Britain
@morat795
@morat795 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t she stay in Poland or other boarding countries ? She thought the war was a perfect opportunity for her to live in the heavenly UK but her strategy failed her.
@Jimdixon1953
@Jimdixon1953 2 жыл бұрын
Living with a landlord as a lodger in their home is bad enough anyway, without the added language barrier, cultural differences and the stress and worry the Ukrainians are going through.
@Mel87y
@Mel87y 2 жыл бұрын
Yes my landlord drove me mad.
@AntelJM
@AntelJM 2 жыл бұрын
Great point. I now own my own home after over ten years as a lodger in other peoples homes and its like living in a different world. One where I can relax and be free to live my own life without the constant feeling that someone is watvhing and judging my every move.
@mbbx5va2
@mbbx5va2 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on this journey to buy home atm and yes totally agree with what your saying
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch 2 жыл бұрын
Then don’t offer to help someone if you can’t. It’s as easy as that
@onepartofone
@onepartofone Жыл бұрын
You should get stories how they take over peoples houses, making it impossible for the hosts to feel free in their own homes. Thousands of stories. You give them a finger, they bite off the hand.
@Adam-lm4ir
@Adam-lm4ir Жыл бұрын
where can I read about such stories??
@onepartofone
@onepartofone Жыл бұрын
@Adam my sister just before Christmas had been asked to help a barrister friend with getting his appointment in London back. He let a woman with two children to stay there for 6 months, locked his personal stuff in a third bedroom letting the woman use 2, but she completely disregarded that rule, moved in the third bedroom, rearranged furniture in the whole appointment and run up enormous bills. When he asked her to move, he actually rented another appointment for her, she refused. She said she already invited guests for a new year celebration.
@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я
@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я Жыл бұрын
@@onepartofone sounds like a fantasy story, but I have no reason not to believe you. We in Russia know that Ukrainians are very arrogant and greedy. Now you also know what a Ukrainian is, imagine such a neighbor for your country, they only demand and give nothing in return, and then they threaten to join NATO or turn off gas to Europe.
@onepartofone
@onepartofone Жыл бұрын
@Серхио Бускетс история сто процентов правда. 😁
@onepartofone
@onepartofone Жыл бұрын
@@СерхиоБускетс-ф7я вот. Я записала kzbin.info/www/bejne/aofUn2elnqZjn8k У меня там много, чего есть🙃🙂
@shankhan-yg1tt
@shankhan-yg1tt Жыл бұрын
In the UK, hosting Ukrainian refugees is a status symbol now. Such a class thing to do and don't just take my word for it. Look at the stats of where the refugees are staying and you'll find that they're in some of the most affluent areas in the country
@Official_Baba_yaga
@Official_Baba_yaga Жыл бұрын
Makes sense , you got 3 kids then add extra 5 heads to support. Finances will be stretched thin!
@SanjayKumar-ei4sn
@SanjayKumar-ei4sn 2 жыл бұрын
Apart from cultural differences, the biggest barrier is the behaviour language .. As an Indian, even I have felt the language of English both used by Russian and Ukrainian seems unkind and rude .. even though it’s unintentional.. but it makes a lot of confusion for sober people .
@agneag
@agneag 2 жыл бұрын
its not rude its just straight forward:)
@lolabow5421
@lolabow5421 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the context
@SanjayKumar-ei4sn
@SanjayKumar-ei4sn 2 жыл бұрын
@@agneag I agree to certain extent.. but when you live a life with them.. it can be difficult to adjust your mind and behaviour .
@krob2327
@krob2327 Жыл бұрын
I find Ukrainians much more ‘severe’ and ‘direct’ than Indians. Brits just assumed they would be culturally similar as they are European.
@liberationfromcolonialisma4432
@liberationfromcolonialisma4432 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder who would take Afghan and Syrian refugees
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch 2 жыл бұрын
I think that everyone who is a good person should, starting with people in rich Arab countries that are the neighbours of Syria and Afghanistan.
@theperfectionist1607
@theperfectionist1607 2 жыл бұрын
@@polishenglishnorwegiandutch No Arab country neighbors Afghanistan😂😂🤡🤡🤦🏻‍♂️
@GP99911
@GP99911 2 жыл бұрын
Ukrainians have to learn culture of the country they come. Something that acceptable in Ukraine is not acceptably in other country. Like leave children along at home or shower more than 10 minutes and many other things
@Madeleine-st7ko
@Madeleine-st7ko Жыл бұрын
Letting people finish speaking instead of interrupting them, I am still not sure if that was a culture thing or whether that was just outright disrespectful
@Itoshimi
@Itoshimi 9 ай бұрын
I thought being white was all they needed. I kept hearing that being white meant you had the same culture hence it was okay to take in as many Ukrainian immigrants as possible, even the men who hide from the draft. Why should they have to change?
@zeke1145
@zeke1145 2 жыл бұрын
this is extremely sad wtf is the government is doing
@gorgeousginger8405
@gorgeousginger8405 2 жыл бұрын
This has got nothing to do with the government this is about how people 4000 miles away think differently from you. How is that suprising?
@zeke1145
@zeke1145 2 жыл бұрын
@@gorgeousginger8405 but the government is allowing this hahaha
@zeke1145
@zeke1145 2 жыл бұрын
@@gorgeousginger8405 please delete ur comment I cringed
@gorgeousginger8405
@gorgeousginger8405 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeke1145 Allowing what to happen and how? What the government did is make it easier for Ukrainians to enter the UK and streamlined the system that wasn't built for mass refugees. Made government incentives to home refugees with subsidies for the excepted additional cost of homing more people. So I am not understanding how the government allowed 'this' to happen. Yes by letting refugees into the country yes they did but I don't see how the government allowed cultural discord, hence I asked. I won't delete my comment, I will get a straight answer out of you though.
@zeke1145
@zeke1145 2 жыл бұрын
@@gorgeousginger8405 allowing people to get into a country easily is literally what it is ahahahah you are twisting it and I don't know why
@siatelecomsltdLondon
@siatelecomsltdLondon 2 жыл бұрын
In the beginning what might appear to be a good idea at the time, will unfortunately lead to people out staying their welcome. Everybody needs to have their space.
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch 2 жыл бұрын
Those people came from the war zone and have nowhere else to go. They are in a foreign country not knowing anything about it. If someone is unable to show compassion, understanding and provide help that is needed, they should not volunteer to do so in the first place. For me, helping those people to find another accommodation through governmental institution is a bare minimum and telling them to leave abruptly after you offered to help is an evil and heartless thing to do.
@frostflower5555
@frostflower5555 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Boris Johnson should take them all in.
@gafhtgdvyjgfv4813
@gafhtgdvyjgfv4813 Жыл бұрын
Most of them ive met (mainly the men) very arrogant and disrespectful people for the most part IMHO
@RebelBucksAbù
@RebelBucksAbù 2 жыл бұрын
Ukraine hotels are still operating. 100s of them. Why aren't they taking them in? Ukraine is also a massive land mass. Plenty of space to set up refugee camps where there's no threat. Where actually many have already returned. Complete circus.
@gabrielbakalarz5722
@gabrielbakalarz5722 2 жыл бұрын
That's what people say in Poland too. All I know that landlords in West ukraine raised up rent so high that none of refugees can afford it.
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp
@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp 4 ай бұрын
It's another cheap labour scheme... These people want better wages
@H4KTNNT
@H4KTNNT 2 жыл бұрын
Send them to Rwanda as well. Thats the current trend isn't it
@MrEuler-vf5nc
@MrEuler-vf5nc 2 жыл бұрын
They should be treated just like any non-white refugees
@СергейСемёнов-м2г
@СергейСемёнов-м2г Жыл бұрын
Terrifying? It's her dream to join the western life and values. Let her enjoy that.
@ukpatriots2geva544
@ukpatriots2geva544 2 жыл бұрын
This was basically something not thought about. Obviously, the language barrier. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people did it for the money. That money doesn't last forever. And the novelty wears off.
@xAce99x
@xAce99x 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone with common sense should have seen this coming
@jeanlilymanwaring7125
@jeanlilymanwaring7125 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks !
@sali9406
@sali9406 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why the Ukrainian people have let themselves fooled by the so called sympathisers and the comedian. Instead of them to demonstrate against the comedian to seek peace against war is so dreadful.
@rexiioper6920
@rexiioper6920 2 жыл бұрын
this 1000 times over
@gabrielbakalarz5722
@gabrielbakalarz5722 2 жыл бұрын
Most of them took the opportunity to leave the country. Arestovicz, zelenskiy adviser said that Ukrainans are like Gods, they came down from heaven and they are greeted nicely everywhere so they believed that ...now we see the results. lots of Ukrainans want to promote themselves on that war...they really think they special
@mimymar2215
@mimymar2215 Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielbakalarz5722 There was a lot of drama from them that Viktor Orban, Austria and Romanian presidents did not clap when he came in at the EU for demanding more help.
@madmike1708
@madmike1708 2 жыл бұрын
Already posted, but 3:35, take her back to Ukraine, preferably near the warzone. The kids can stay, they are innocent...But that is such a slap in the face I don't know why she is tolerated to stay. She just bit the hand that fed.
@kcjazzy
@kcjazzy 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree.
@travelwell6049
@travelwell6049 2 жыл бұрын
So what you’re saying is that Patel had an idea that was stupid and not fit for purpose 🤔 Bless this poor woman.
@jeanlilymanwaring7125
@jeanlilymanwaring7125 2 жыл бұрын
No, it's Patel herself who is stupid and not fit for anything !
@fisf.2148
@fisf.2148 2 жыл бұрын
😆 🤣
@kevwaller1518
@kevwaller1518 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of inviting more people to the UK how about fixing the problems we already have like housing the homeless we already have on the streets.try putting UK first
@studenthacks3211
@studenthacks3211 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@maigepresents5840
@maigepresents5840 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't there govt sponsored planes to Africa? Nice and sunny, pretty good exchange rate, surely a great option for her...
@jasona1196
@jasona1196 10 ай бұрын
The first woman is an absolute liar! I was actually doing a job for the same family she is talking about! The week she arrived,! They went above and beyond to try and make her comfortable in their home! When she arrived the woman picked her up and took her straight to the shops and bought her every thing she needed! A lot of stuff! Clothing , toiletries and even a mobile phone I was there in the home for a week when she was there, she was ignorant and disrespectful to her hosts! She was not happy because the house she was staying in was i About 5 miles from the town where she knew other Ukrainian people she knew! And she also thought the money form the government that was paid to put a roof over her head was for her to have! She left without telling the people who put her up in their! When they finally got in touch with her she said she was going to stay with friends , think About it!!!! Scotland to Birmingham!!! Absolutely ungrateful
@maikilreategui1271
@maikilreategui1271 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is refugees are always put in a vulnerable state. Where lots of evil people would prey on them or take advantage. I wish they all well and safety 🙏
@stopitnow7762
@stopitnow7762 Жыл бұрын
I'm homeless, with my children, but will not live with a gay couple? In the 60's & 70's, people of the Caribbean were told the streets of England were paved with gold. When they got there and saw that this wasn't true..they either went home or fitted into society wherever they could. That's how the closeness with the Punks was formed. This is not that.
@elizabethnjoki6186
@elizabethnjoki6186 2 жыл бұрын
Praying for peace in Ukraine and the whole world . Being forcefully uprooted from your home becoz of war must be the most painful thing in the world .
@kes136
@kes136 6 ай бұрын
Some of them support this barbaric war for American dreams
@samanthahardy9903
@samanthahardy9903 2 жыл бұрын
Now we have charity adverts asking for £27 to donate to Ukrainian refugees. The main reasons why most people took in refugees in the first place was because of the money incentive being offered to potential hosts. People here already are struggling financially due to the cost of living crisis. The host who wanted to go on holiday for 3 weeks and wanted the family to move out maybe heard stories of other people taking over their homes under squatters rights or maybe they just wanted the incentive money to go on holiday.
@Pluto60
@Pluto60 2 жыл бұрын
I thought governments was paying from £600.00- +
@samanthahardy9903
@samanthahardy9903 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pluto60 It was about £350 per month in the U.K.
@Pluto60
@Pluto60 2 жыл бұрын
@@samanthahardy9903 my bad 😥 I saw on the new channel but the people host it didn’t wanted, I felt the government’s was saying they saving the refugees but the uk 🇬🇧 citizens was doing the work 🙄🤦‍♀️💗
@MadMancGaming
@MadMancGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@samanthahardy9903 its funny tho how can you house and feed a family on 350 a month that wouldn't even cover a one room shared house price here
@frankdunne2401
@frankdunne2401 2 жыл бұрын
Yes she looks the type, devious probabily read the law on this.Still, couldn't find her way around Britain, strange not so devious?
@stephenwalker2924
@stephenwalker2924 2 жыл бұрын
You can't treat people like they are 'novelties,' something to 'show off' to your virtue-signalling friends, something to be 'dropped' when the novelty wears off. That's just patronizing and ill-mannered and in that case one is doing something ostensibly good but for the wrong reasons. As for difficulties - we are all human and we all have feelings and opinions. And we all make mistakes. So everybody has to work together in stressful times and find a suitable compromise when differences and difficulties arise. Easier said than done, I know. I'm pretty set in my ways so I know straight away I'd be unsuitable for this kind of thing...
@madphil69
@madphil69 2 жыл бұрын
How else can you show what a wonderful caring family you are. And how generous. So they were twats, but why did she run away, and into a large city of all places? Am I wrong in thinking that there's a huge chunk of this story missing? Wasn't she in Scotland initially, then ended up in Brum? It tells one side of the story, her side, and we don't have any idea as to why the relationship broke down, other than that they liked to take her out.
@Kalecimus
@Kalecimus 2 жыл бұрын
Brutally honest! 🤣
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch
@polishenglishnorwegiandutch 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that comment. It is very considerate.
@elainekent3551
@elainekent3551 2 жыл бұрын
We have our own to look after for good sake !!!
@denvernugg1151
@denvernugg1151 2 жыл бұрын
Wants a free house
@JasonSmith-dy4rg
@JasonSmith-dy4rg 2 жыл бұрын
Very commendable these ones that can open up their homes and offer hospitality. It’s not easy sharing your home with another family, add a language barrier and cultural differences makes it that little harder, but well said ,show “patience” , and make an agreement from the outset regarding the duration of the stay, which is to be respected (of course excluding extreme cases). Not right to leave someone in the lurch like that with nowhere to go.
@clincpb8903
@clincpb8903 2 жыл бұрын
The government pays £350.00 a month a british that would take a refugee, it is not very commendable, it is a matter of money more than charity.
@JasonSmith-dy4rg
@JasonSmith-dy4rg 2 жыл бұрын
@@clincpb8903 I guess in the UK would be the case, I forgot about that. Although that sum would just about cover the increased food, energy costs etc a month for a visiting family. That would benefit the families who have the space in their homes but low on resources. No doubt however there are also those who would like to milk the government incentive.
@МашаКаша-ж9ь
@МашаКаша-ж9ь Жыл бұрын
@@clincpb8903 350 per month is way below the usual rent for a small room in Britain! Most of the tenants also pay their utility bills on top of that. Add to it the stress of having strangers in your house - noise, their own presence, problems, etc... And don't forget: most of the hosts take the refugees around to doctors, Jobcentre, shops, cultural outings, etc etc. Try yourself to host somebody and this will clear your head.
@sarajane5306
@sarajane5306 2 жыл бұрын
Birmingham is a very long way from Scotland, even if her host family was horrible, its very strange to go all that far south, what was the reason she didn't go to Glasgow or Edinburgh, what is the government doing to those host families who put their refugees they got paid to take in out on the street? This is the very reason a better vetting system should have been in place for those strangers coming together, its all fine when people know one another but with complete strangers it's very hit and miss.
@hopeimoh4208
@hopeimoh4208 Жыл бұрын
But you "Ukrainian " also treat black people bad.
@11SIMPLIFIED
@11SIMPLIFIED 2 жыл бұрын
Ukraine only winning on social media lol
@kellykreqeli8924
@kellykreqeli8924 2 жыл бұрын
People here should have found out more about the family’s they were taken on before they did because now those family’s are being left in an awful situation at the same time family’s coming here need to realise it’s much different in the uk then it was in Ukraine
@lolabow5421
@lolabow5421 2 жыл бұрын
You can only find out so much until they are actually living with you..
@ricepeas
@ricepeas 2 жыл бұрын
beggers cannot be choosers. humility is the name of the game******************************
@janestones323
@janestones323 2 жыл бұрын
There was no war in Odessa when she left it! Now she complains! Why not Poland?
@little-gray-bird
@little-gray-bird 2 жыл бұрын
Because we in Poland already have enough of them 5million officially. We already have enough.
@gabrielbakalarz5722
@gabrielbakalarz5722 2 жыл бұрын
@@little-gray-bird there are some tensions between Ukrainian and polish due to our unsolved brutal history and their demanding behaviour
@little-gray-bird
@little-gray-bird 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielbakalarz5722 Definitely. I don't know how it will end, whether we will jump down each other's throats. Volhynia will not be forgotten, although they want us to forget. A government that is anti-Polish. It is abnormal that in a month or two half of the city's population did not speak Polish.
@liverpoollass7600
@liverpoollass7600 Жыл бұрын
She says she called parents in Ukraine everyday sometimes twice a day! Wondering if this was on the hosts landline? If so maybe they were fed up with paying for international calls to Ukraine everyday. Can understand her wanting to speak to her parents but everyday and sometimes twice a day.....if this was done on the host families phone line that is taking lthe **** and am not surprised they said to leave. Anyone being reasonable would have just called twice a week.
@masudahmed6029
@masudahmed6029 Жыл бұрын
Prob online on whatsapp or on Facebook video. Everything done online now which removes need to use landlines or phone bills
@Roseforres
@Roseforres 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing this problem to the public. Something should be put in place to provide assistance to these families
@Perfectstranger_7
@Perfectstranger_7 2 жыл бұрын
What have you done on your side?
@Aj_Porsche
@Aj_Porsche 2 жыл бұрын
Some have abused the system, the West of Ukraine is safe.
@sandybeveridge5692
@sandybeveridge5692 Жыл бұрын
@@Perfectstranger_7 that was an aggressive comment
@andrewlloydwebster5656
@andrewlloydwebster5656 Жыл бұрын
Not with my taxpayer money
@israeldiegoriveragenius2th164
@israeldiegoriveragenius2th164 2 жыл бұрын
No to vaccine passports, mandates or lockdowns
@beforenightfall7252
@beforenightfall7252 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think they will bring vaccine passports back ?
@exbritishforcespatriotscha7723
@exbritishforcespatriotscha7723 2 жыл бұрын
Why does the government not block book caravan parks .pay a food allowance as must be cheaper than Hotels.
@Mr.Edd3905
@Mr.Edd3905 2 жыл бұрын
It's a very sad situation. I've travelled and stayed in a number of people's houses over the years (the people of which I did not already know) and it is a bit of a lottery. The problem is explained in this video that once the novelty of having a guest wears off, then the guest is just treated as though they are in the way. It can be quite scary as a guest because you don't know really what you can or can't do. When people say 'make yourself at home', they don't really mean it. People have too many routines that when disturbed triggers nasty reactions. These refugees would be better off with some single house owners who are lonely because then at least the novelty will last longer. If you haven't been a guest in a stranger's house for more than a few days, then you don't know what it is like or how hurtful some rules or comments can be. I once turned up to a house in Finland (in the middle of nowhere with a couple who had HelpX guests). When I arrived, the family were out and only the two other guests were there. When the family got back, they just completely ignored the fact that I had arrived, put me in the tiny spare room and just sat watching some trashy TV shows in the living room. I just walked out the next morning. At least I had that option. I feel very sorry for refugees like this girl who had no money.
@luckyluke1503
@luckyluke1503 2 жыл бұрын
Well than move out and try to work and get a place of your own. Don’t complain when others let you stay with them. Be thankful
@julieharrison4439
@julieharrison4439 2 жыл бұрын
@@luckyluke1503 Erm....he did. Didn't you read it?
@luckyluke1503
@luckyluke1503 2 жыл бұрын
@@julieharrison4439 yes But he seems like he is not happy with them.
@julieharrison4439
@julieharrison4439 2 жыл бұрын
@@luckyluke1503 clearly he's not happy with them. Who would be when your totally ignored in a strange land, so he left.
@luckyluke1503
@luckyluke1503 2 жыл бұрын
@@julieharrison4439 when you are given Food and a roof over your head in a foreign country than you should be thankful. No matter what country that is or who you are.
@paulo7507
@paulo7507 2 жыл бұрын
50% of British people voted to leave the EU do you really think at least half of the population would accept this????
@vmm5163
@vmm5163 2 жыл бұрын
Good comment 👍 this country is bursting at the seams
@paulo7507
@paulo7507 2 жыл бұрын
@@vmm5163 didnt stop people opening their arms out for the Ukrainian refugees so im a little confused as to what this country actually wants???
@zoran5076
@zoran5076 2 жыл бұрын
Concerning culture differences (that is at the end of the video), as Ukrainian (I'am not a refugee though), I can understand why British people can felt offended sometimes of how the Ukrainians speak to them. First of all, the Ukrainians very rarely speak proper English, and therefore they can sound blunt. And second, while in English you make an offers, suggestions and so on with modals to sound more tentative, in Ukraine people don't really use such forms speaking to strangers, especially working class people from the East and South of the Country. They are quite straightforward, which can be perceived as rudeness, but they usually don't mean it.
@SA-ff9uc
@SA-ff9uc 2 жыл бұрын
True, Ukraine is very poor and these folk are mainly poor peasants from the countryside. They will drink and smoke and act crazy in a big foreign city.
@maigepresents5840
@maigepresents5840 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that's odd... what happened to the 'Europeans are all similar, share cultural norms' bs that UKIP were spitting put for all those years?
@zoran5076
@zoran5076 2 жыл бұрын
@@maigepresents5840 Europeans ARE similar, but not identical
@MrEuler-vf5nc
@MrEuler-vf5nc 2 жыл бұрын
Some of them are outright bad who don't respect anyone's family values
@zoran5076
@zoran5076 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrEuler-vf5nc get lost, bot
@vadim8802
@vadim8802 2 жыл бұрын
As someone familiar with Russian and Ukrainian people/ culture - Ukrainians belong alongside Russians. Mentality, language, connection, etc, is fully aligned - this is very important! And Westerners will never understand the mentality between Russians and Ukrainians! Also, some Ukrainians need to stop deluding themselves, those who want to be in the EU, want to be there because they THINK that they will become wealthier, plus maybe some other conveniences the bloc gives them (although, imo, the EU is morally and financially bankrupt). The sad part is, they have been pushed into a war because of this and largely because politicians told them that it’s in their interest.
@patwalsh6400
@patwalsh6400 2 жыл бұрын
Tripe.
@ВикторияДрагоценная-п1ь
@ВикторияДрагоценная-п1ь 2 жыл бұрын
Мы не принадлежим к русским, мы не вещь, мы свободны в своём выборе, и не надеемся на ес в плане обогащения, а надеемся только на поддержку, несмотря на трусость многих стран
@Pomegranate_David
@Pomegranate_David 2 жыл бұрын
@@ВикторияДрагоценная-п1ь You may not belong to the Russian's but you have more in common with them than the British people. The EU are a disaster, all the leaders are a bunch of idiots, they are destroying their own nations for the American imperialists weapon manufacturers. The Ukrainian's are victims of their own stupidity to trust the West.
@vadim8802
@vadim8802 2 жыл бұрын
@@ВикторияДрагоценная-п1ь I never said that you belong to Russians like an item, I was pointing out the fact that you both are practically one people - very little differences. Trying to look for something else and going so far as to breaking ties, is quite silly in my opinion. Unfortunately this inevitably gets political. But I also don’t understand when you (and other Ukrainians) say “we”, “we want to be closer to Europe”, etc. The reality is that Ukraine is divided between Russian speakers who want closer ties with Russia and Ukrainians. I would like to emphasise the period pre-2014, when Yanukovych was the legitimate president (elected free and fairly). Those in KIEV, overthrew him with the help of fascist groups and foreign politicians (I.e. Viktoria Nuland), I won’t go into much detail but Ukrainian sovereignty, constitutional law and electoral law had been violated by those foreign actors and those active in the violence overthrowing Yanukovych. Those people who took out Yanukovych without consideration of their other countrymen, is something really disgusting and selfish. This is why we have democratic elections and not coups, so there can be a peaceful transfer of power, which doesn’t break the constitution and therefore doesn’t impede the sovereignty and threaten the territorial integrity of the country. This is why I encourage you to rethink using the word “we” in such context.
@The_Savage_Wombat
@The_Savage_Wombat 2 жыл бұрын
@@vadim8802 Except Putin is executing Ukrainian civilians as war criminals now. Hard to get along with someone who will kill you.
@Fat89789
@Fat89789 2 жыл бұрын
This was inevitable really. I’m surprised that the government welcomed these people and didn’t make a plan for them to be able to provide for themselves.
@sandybeveridge5692
@sandybeveridge5692 Жыл бұрын
I’m not surprised!!!!
@tecomaman
@tecomaman 2 жыл бұрын
Odessa is safe you silly girl ,
@UAM-
@UAM- 2 жыл бұрын
Why am I not surprised
@prathapanjohn
@prathapanjohn Жыл бұрын
Because you are not white? 🤷🤷🤷
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