Can Rishi Sunak stop Nigel Farage taking over Tory Party?

[@mervinprone]

Tories had 14 YEARS they’re supposed to be the ones tough on crime tough on immigration, borders, keep costs low, they blew it!

[@infoillness4222]

Well not exactly...the real objective has been achieved to perfection...look at how well their Billionaire backers have done since 2010...

[@microfarming8583]

Vote Reform for change 🇬🇧🚀💥

[@infoillness4222]

@@thetruth9210 Well if you're interested in "the truth" pal look at any reputable analysis of wealth growth since 2010...we have facilitated massive rent seeking and asset price growth post 2008...and don't spout that rubbish about the rewards of capitalism...because if that applied the banks et al would have been allowed to fail then thus saving the general populace a massive tax hike to enable this...

[@noodleppoodle]

@@thetruth9210 maybe its less about billionaires being poor under Labour but more about everyone else doing ok, the youth having opportunities, being able to move to Europe whenever you want and so on

[@JB27888]

@@infoillness4222 In capitalism banks are allowed to fail...but we bailed them out thanks to New Labour.

[@kevinjackson6387]

Blimey 3 people having a proper conversation instead of shouting at each other

[@1ForTheShieldz]

Lies 😂 * this comment was a joke, all politicians should be like this not like the nasty arguments. These three had real debates not just repeating slogans about how bad the other party was they should start having substance and conversation unlike the sunak and starmer show. Very good video good guests and presenter

[@boulevard14]

Right?

[@nigelbenton880]

@@1ForTheShieldz how's the weather in your St Petersburg basement?

[@euphoriaggaminghd]

very refreshing isnt it

[@1ForTheShieldz]

@nigelbenton880 weird thing to say, guess that's the modern way of acknowledging that you know someone is right. Blame the rushkies for manipulation of elections.. same thing before in America. Makes you wonder how easy we was lied to back then I guess and how idiots like you believe it now. Remember the brexit campaign they said everyone was stupid and old. Jog on fella jog on. No more labour party for me they are the true comrade lovers in ruskie basements. Vote reform.

[@Gooders8355]

Didn’t the tories raise tax 21 times in the last parliament? How are they low tax?

[@ChrisH43]

Low for the rich.

[@1ForTheShieldz]

Exactly. They are leftwing like labour. Reform will raise income tax base level to 20k and its funded.

[@estebancomulet]

They are the definition of gaslighting: “forget the last 14 years, I’ll change now, promise…”

[@stephenhill545]

They are reducing tax for rich people. The word "party" means something.

[@hahaplease97]

Liz trust literally tried removing the 45% tax rate for high earners and make it 40% that fked the GBP value and she wanted to lower corporate tax instead of i creasing it and directly helping the economy. When tories say reduce tax, they usually imply reducing it for the rich. Claiming to reduce tax without a proper plan to fund the gap will just drive off inflation. They’ll claim to reduce tax by 2%, and when they do, they ignore the fact that prices of everyday goods and services literally doubled as a result. They want to look good on paper. Such a brainless bunch.

[@cardwitch91]

Kinda wish more political discussions were like this. Just three political figures having a chat about the issues properly.

[@KhanCarnivore]

Absolutely. This is how opinions and policies change. Not dumb bickering that is promoted in mainstream debates.

[@fenderek666]

Nobody is listening to Tories anymore

[@Jessjoe1956]

I’m 68, and I have never believed them. They have never represented people like me, by that I mean working class people. They are the party of the ultra wealthy, and funded by the ultra wealthy, to represent the interests of the ultra wealthy. And, I believe the most corrupt organisation in our country.

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

I am, it's making me laugh

[@GA-fz2wt]

Never have!

[@stephenhill545]

​@@ChrisPatrick-q6kIt's wonderful to see them still taking themselves seriously, as they head towards the cliff.

[@marumaru6084]

Or Labour!

[@Theforestbandit]

Tories might as well just go home. They are now out of office for a long long time . He cant buy his way out of this one . YIPEE !!

[@FredScuttle456]

Tories can't win. They should just stand down. All they can do is steal votes from Reform and ensure a bigger Labour majority.

[@FranzBieberkopf]

Great, isn't it?😊😊

[@sonofsomerset1695]

And once Labour mess things up even worse, as they surely will as they dont even understand the basics of energy policy to name just one, then Reform will crush both of them at the next election and we can finally start improving the country.

[@briandelaney9710]

I remember when they predicted the end of the Tories back in 1998. Within 12 yrs, they were back

[@1ForTheShieldz]

​@briandelaney9710 yes but today they have a true center right with reform

[@bustermika18]

This video is a breath of fresh air, no bickering, and just discussion and honest opinions.

[@ThecovertCustomer]

If the tories promised to cut taxes in half I still wouldn’t vote for them. Ex Tory voter here. How have they costed all this?So much for the original NI hike to help pay for social care. Social care and health services in this country are shocking. I suffer with pain every day - apparently not enough to be considered disabled and get any help to allow me to work reduced hours but enough to impact my every day life to a huge degree. Why? Because I’ve waited so long for NHS to offer actual help that I have deteriorated hugely. I was never this bad. No I’ll take longer to fix. I literally cry some days.

[@Tigger-roo1234]

Keep going.. you matter ❤

[@raffam3559]

@@Tigger-roo1234I’ve had similar issues. Luckily I had some relatives who offered some financial help and could have a quick private diagnostic and consultation to fasten the process. If I came by boat I would have all the services including dentists at my disposal. Keep on fighting for your rights by voting for change or find someone that will help you. All the best.

[@PerilousSelector]

you voted for it didn't you?

[@JamesL42]

Not a chance, the Tories need to be consigned to history. ZERO SEATS.

[@helenpauls1496]

And labour takes all.

[@estebancomulet]

Please let’s hope so!!!

[@kylestanley1160]

​@helenpauls1496 Starmer won't last 5 years. Theyl eat themselves alive. Once tories are gone then at the election after this Reform can become the official opposition.

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

@@helenpauls1496 Don't think so, Galloway intends to destroy the Labour Party. And the Muslim coalition are saying they're not voting Labour.

[@rutgaurxi7314]

Labour *are* the new the Tories, have you not been paying attention?

[@junehitchcock170]

Foreign students should not be able to settle or bring their families into the country to use the services free of charge.

[@simonenkoma4633]

Students pay for everything. They don’t get anything for free

[@bradleyc543]

credit to all involved here, a great and civil discussion, exactly what our tv debates should be.

[@glitteryball]

Britain needs change. I'll be voting Reform after voting Tory for 45 years. The Reds and blues aren't fit to govern and the country is now a mess!

[@Blythe1967able]

Thank you.

[@ChristianoRodríguez-h3k]

Many businesses are struggling with a lack of employees and that is why people can no longer cope physically because no one wants to work for two people and they want to reduce the number of employees even more,this is madness and self-destructive.Businesses will come to a standstill and there will be a financial meltdown

[@callum1131]

Vote Reform

[@utopiate75]

Even factoring in Rishi's ridiculous tax cut promises, the tax burden overall will still rise over the course of the parliament maintaining an 80 year high.

[@31Blaize]

He can't deliver on those cuts anyway. The promises are made on savings that have already either been spent or are overestimated.

[@tipcentric]

Why does Krishnan look like he is just on his way to the pub to meet his mates and sink a few pints?

[@tomb407]

Probably because wearing a suit at all times is annoying

[@barbaracleverly9058]

On his way back? He’s changed since I last watched BBC some years ago. He’s much nicer!

[@raffam3559]

I didn’t like him scoffing at David reply so rude!

[@hunter9372]

Now that’s what you call a civilised discussion.

[@michaelbatsford1028]

Well done David! Vote Reform!

[@robertwilliams2323]

I heard Sunak on the radio today, and nearly nodded off, i suspect i wouldn't have been the only one.

[@1ForTheShieldz]

Must have been listening to him and corby.. I mean .. hurm that boring labour leader.. I forgot his name.. he is so dull no wonder you fell sleep...

[@midlandgeordie]

No one believes the Tories! Tories are finished!!!

[@unrealharry]

Vote #Reform. Everyone should be tired of the Uniparty

[@ShopFloorMonkey]

Beats me why anyone ever did!

[@1ForTheShieldz]

2 cheeks of the same a$$

[@peabase]

@@unrealharry You'll just split the vote and hand victory to Labour.

[@mrstephenpariah]

​@@unrealharryReform are just Tories with an extra dose of Tory.

[@am3ient]

Wish the leaders of the parties would discuss like this instead of a shouting match.

[@longlivetheboleyn1917]

Team Farage 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@TheEroticDonkey]

Probably the most professional, intellectual conversation I've seen from a group of politicians.

[@sararichardson737]

You need to get out more

[@IainFrame]

"they can't see any alternative future for themselves in politics" They could always get real jobs instead I guess.

[@1ForTheShieldz]

😂

[@davidt1621]

Well they have no will to assert themselves in parliament toward the conservative opinions that they supposedly hold, which is their main duty in the oath of office to serve their constituency. Failing that, I hear that Taco Bell is hiring.

[@snakeplissken5480]

or join the limp-dems where they really should be

[@Carloswang92]

So pleasant to watch people have a discussion without talking over each other all the time.

[@davidtuer5825]

Being polite is a good thing. It doesn't mean that they're making sense.

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

Labour are down to 38% in the latest YouGov poll, Tories have gone down to 18%, Reform is up to 17%, Liberal Democrats are up to 15% and Greens are up to 8%. Hence, the Labour and the Tories are losing to the small parties, and there is still 23 days to go.

[@andrewharrison7767]

ukip won 12.5% of votes in 2015, they only won a single seat because their vote in the red wall north was so widespread; its why their standing by created Bojo's massive majority - but opinion polls rarely reflect final results because of first past the post

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

@@andrewharrison7767 A lot is changing rapidly and there is still 23 days to go. Reform have some brilliant candidates.

[@HmmInteresting478]

@@eliakimjosephsophia4542 I'm sure this comment will age about as well as Brexit.

[@countfosco8535]

@@HmmInteresting478 It really is 'same old' with the Brexit Party or UKIP or whatever they are calling themselves this year. Yawn.

[@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou]

All the bigots who don’t find the Tories bigoted enough are looking to filthy Reform.

[@jamesvdv0]

Anyone who thinks that the Tories can be trusted on delivery of anything in their current manifesto needs to give their heads a wobble and look back on their delivery of promises over the last 14 years.

[@estebancomulet]

They are the definition of gaslighting: “forget the last 14 years, I’ll change now, promise…”

[@igg3937]

But this time they promise they'll cut immigration.

[@chrisreynolds3351]

James I thought exactly the same but I just read an article about future plans of Labour. I am so terrified of a majority Labour Government I would rather the Conservatives got in and had to make up a majority by a coalition partnership with Reform. Farage, Tice et. al. would ensure they were kept on the right path. In a perfect world Reform would win but maybe they will in 2028. Did anyone read the Daily Mail article about future Labour plans for this country. Utterly terrifying.

[@paulcowan7250]

​@@chrisreynolds3351It isn't worth worrying about a political article in the daily mail, running up to an election. There will be a lot of scaremongering in the media from the Tories about Labour plans, as there always is, riddled with fake statistics and misleading taglines. The idea of another term for the Conservatives is terrifying to me, we've all seen how much the country has suffered in their hands.

[@estebancomulet]

@@chrisreynolds3351 I think you lost us when you said ‘article in the daily mail’. They hate Labour w a passionate bloodlust. Welcome to propaganda 101.

[@MattFinch-f2w]

Sunak is tone deaf.He should have disappeared off to California.Nobody will vote for him.😂

[@karlerikpaulsson88]

Don't dump your trash in MY backyard, Britbonger.

[@sararichardson737]

Nor notice. A total waste o space.

[@yourmum5576]

Ask yourself why would the richest man in Britain want to be pm? What’s in it for him…

[@karlerikpaulsson88]

Don't dump your trash in MY backyard.

[@sararichardson737]

@@karlerikpaulsson88 steady on. He’s got mucho mucho dinero. He won’t be going on welfare so cool yr heels cowboy.

[@Jessjoe1956]

The Tory’s tax proposals disproportionately benefit the wealthiest, the higher your salary the more you benefit. A fairer system would be to raise the threshold at which you have to pay tax, that would benefit lower earning working families and pensioners.

[@aquaticpears3183]

Reform say raise tax threshold from 12.5k to 20k 👍

[@Clare0116]

That is what the Reform Party pledge! No income tax for those with less than £20,000 per year income AND foreign workers will have a National Insurance employer's surcharge to get more unemployed back into work!

[@Jessjoe1956]

@@aquaticpears3183 That would be a good policy, but I could never vote for those people.

[@aquaticpears3183]

@@Jessjoe1956 that's fair enough. Free votes and all that 👍. Should have a scan on their website 'contract' though. Their stances on family and normal people flows quite well when I read it. You can pretty much guess what the policy is before you read it, which I can't say for the others. The others I have no idea what their positions will be on anything 🤷‍♂️

[@QueenJneeuQ]

@@aquaticpears3183 that will not help the crumbling NHS though.

[@MotivateHouse]

When someone comes along and genuinely believes that reform UK is "far right" the country is seriously seriously doomed.

[@DavidEdwards-e6m]

Reform are seriously British, end of

[@niravelniflheim1858]

"Far Right" today means "what was common sense, many years ago", so it seems.

[@Tom_murray89]

The tories have had their day and I can see reform taking over the tories

[@sonofsomerset1695]

and then Labour.

[@Elizabeth-jd3mn]

I'd leave Reform if they have anything to do with them.

[@222rich]

lets hope so

[@maccagrabme]

Long overdue, these two parties have had a very, very long run, to the point that they think they have a divine right to rule over us, they've had so much power that they have been handing it out like candy to unelected organisations. You normally expect a Tory party to be the more sensible party out of the two but this last 14 years has been a complete failure. They only had to deliver Brexit, cut immigration and build housing but are refusing to deliver so are now finished.

[@stewartbunting3568]

Lets hope so

[@albertjack4050]

I just registered to postal vote from overseas. First time in 25 years... And I only did it to vote for ReformUK. Enough of these people, time for Reform....

[@Fightzoneonly]

Amazing post U put here, this is how we got to do it.. let's force change 🇬🇧 reformuk all the way.

[@marthajohns443]

Well done

[@errolneptune3995]

When Brexit was confirmed the government should have provided 100,000 free scholarships to UK citizens to nurses, doctors and dentists. Tuition to be paid back at 75% if leaving NHS within 1 year, 50% paid back leaving within 3 years and 25% paid back if leaving within 5 years, zero paid back if staying 5 years +. Anyone that stays 10+ years receives a £25,000 bonus towards either pension or deposit for mortgage on right to buy scheme. As a nation we should be in a position of being able to export nurses and doctors not relying on immigration to fill vacancies. When i was young most girls i knew wanted to be a nurse or vet and i ask myself what the heck happened! Also the government should incentives people caring for family members and friends to assist social care of others within their neighbourhood therefore giving carers a possible career option and route into full time employment. A carer on UC as well as carers allowance if given an additional £50-£60 to care part time for an additional person would assist in current shortages as well as save tax payers millions in the long run.

[@shelleyphilcox4743]

@errolneptune3995 Your timeline and % on tuition payback is way too short considering the costs. Do you know much about the training structure, costs and usefulness of doctors at FY1, FY2? Giving someone relief at 50% at 3 years service and 75% at just 5 years is madness. It would be better linked to years of service AND training grade achieved. I'm not keen to give 75% relief on a doctor that finished FY2 and then did 3 years out of training giving service still at such a low grade and then pop off to the USA with virtually no student debt. Chances are that they would get a bit more training to the mid Specialty, and then go though, but that is not the way to keep highly trained doctors and retain them at consultant level. I do think that we should set it to length of service at a particular grade and that length of service needs to be longer than what you have set out.

[@errolneptune3995]

@@shelleyphilcox4743 so what is the cost of 100,000 on UC for 10 years with fully paid rent and living allowance. That could be offset against it.

[@errolneptune3995]

@@shelleyphilcox4743 i don't have the figures but i would be all for increasing the length of time served

[@shelleyphilcox4743]

@@errolneptune3995 I agree with the overall principle of tuition forgiveness, and even perhaps 0% interest on subsistence loans repayment, particularly as medicine is a 5 year degree here in the UK. I too dont have sufficient detail to hand to crunch something more accurate, but Ibused to work for an NHS board that's purpose is overseeing and providing training for doctors, nurses, midwives, dentists, pharmacists and other AHPs and provided services to Universities, Foundation schools, boards, trusts and Royal Colleges across the UK, so I have some insight into the training structures etc.

[@jondonnelly3]

Needs tweaking to be realistic but it's the preety good policy.

[@BogdanGheorge-bc8xu]

RISHI MUST RESIGN

[@marsfoot1237]

He can't resign until after the election because no one would be willing to replace him.

[@clivefrear1784]

Anyone seriously believe the Tories will implement any aspect of their manifesto?? 😂😂😂😂

[@PMMagro]

They will lose the election so it is not menat to be realised. It is propaganda for their new opposition role.

[@chrisbovington9607]

Even the Tories don't believe they'll get the chance so it doesn't matter, but if anyone does believe them then I've seen a guy flogging the Eiffle Tower cheap on Penny Lane.

[@DavidEdwards-e6m]

Labours manifesto will only unfold once they are in power, they are only going to win this election because of the countries hate of the conservatives, they have the appeal of lemon juice.

[@pt4005]

Nigel’s speech about not caring your sexuality or ethnicity… it doesn’t matter. 1 nation united. Was very powerful. My vote has swayed to reform

[@alan_davis]

I'm sorry for you.

[@LordWalsallian]

@@alan_davis Is your sexuality and ethnicity your whole personality Alan?

[@KevinThomas-kxtphotography]

Why aren’t we training our own he asks(David), because we have monetised training and education, people cannot afford it or do not want to get into massive debt! There is also a lack of aspiration to become a trained worker. It’s a difficult path to tread. An interesting interview where there is a sensible discussion between the people there, no lies and talking over each other. 👍😁

[@damedusa5107]

True, slightly clueless on that point. But that reform guy did come across really well here in all, but no way could I vote for the rest of his party’s loony’s.

[@brunostudley2191]

This is an immigration election, the whole country is fed up with this insanity!!

[@moynanplayz5379]

Like it or not we need more migrants not less but it must be the right kind and let me explain why. Baby boomers are starting to retire and since the 1970s birth rates have declined so there simply isn’t enough British born to fill these jobs so to support people during retirement and for the economy to grow we are going to need migrants but it should be managed properly where we do our bit and take fair share of asylum seekers and migrants we need to fill jobs and no matter how much you may want less migrants to come here we will need to fill the skills gap

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Not the whole country, only intelligent people, the rest will vote Labour or tories.

[@31Blaize]

Actually it's a cost of living election. Immigration comes below that and the NHS is every poll that includes a spectrum of voters.

[@brunostudley2191]

@@moynanplayz5379 Wherever these immigrants go to settle they ruin the communities, business starts to disappear, native people move away,this is happening in all our big cities, look at the state of London, I live in Portsmouth and it’s getting bad there. I’m in the Broads on holiday, just went to Great Yarmouth, same there, loads of empty shops and businesses-immigrants everywhere. Sad really, this country has changed so much for the bad!

[@moynanplayz5379]

@@brunostudley2191 immigration has been poorly managed by both main parties since the 1990s. Firstly you need the infrastructure to handle large amounts of people arriving and immigration should be based on the skills we need and I’m a Labour member. Also we need to take our fair share of asylum seekers but not everyone

[@hippo319]

Let's train our own people!

[@grahamsmith2753]

Screw the Conservatives. If Farage goes anywhere near that party, he'll lose all respect I have for him. I'm becoming sick of the items that keep popping up, linking him to those losers.

[@Clare0116]

I'm also fed up with the smug Cons thinking they still have a chance with Reform, after Reform stood down 320 Candidates to keep Labour out. 5 years later, the failed Cons should be standing down 320 Candidates to let Reform keep Labour out! Cons promises are worthless because they can't be trusted!

[@localreviewking134]

What has Mr Garbage actually done?

[@grahamsmith2753]

@@localreviewking134 Watch this space.

[@janewest2845]

He supports convicted sexual abuser Trump and wants him reflected, why do you support him?

[@sonofsomerset1695]

@@localreviewking134 Saved us from the corrupt EU for starters.

[@davidbaloney2505]

I am voting for change ,enough is enough, time for change VOTE REFORM PARTY.

[@sslim9247]

Rishi is one of the main reasons people are ditching Tories...!

[@marksavage1108]

dont forget conMoron May Truss and Doris.

[@Greenpoloboy3]

Next "Sunak promises to offer all households £500 if they vote Tory"

[@Fulkumnuts]

Only the tories except bribery 😊

[@estebancomulet]

They are the definition of gaslighting: “forget the last 14 years, I’ll change now, promise…”

[@stephenhill545]

Or some sand from Omaha beach.

[@Greenpoloboy3]

@@estebancomulet exactly

[@DJRockford83]

​@@stephenhill545gold and sword surely

[@johnreas9216]

Vote for Nigel…..he’s the ONLY guy who truly LOVES LOVES LOVES his country! The rest are crooks.

[@Fightzoneonly]

Never a truer word written on KZbin sir 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@GonzoTehGreat]

24:00 KGM is correct. The recent increase in immigration is a deliberate post-Brexit policy by the Conservatives to import cheap labour, specifically for the NHS. They've had ~5 years since the EU referendum to train more doctors, nurses, midwives, but domestic workers would demand higher wages, which they don't want to pay, as the NHS is already budget constrained. Sunak's government also increased the number of student visas for foreign students, who pay much higher fees, which the universities increasingly depend on as their government funding has been withdrawn. The big mistake was allowing students to also bring their dependents (family) which increased the total by ~30%.

[@hak41711]

Sunak didn’t increase the number of student visas; it was Boris/Patel policy

[@GonzoTehGreat]

@@hak41711 Fair point. It wasn't his policy, but it was still his government.

[@Fulkumnuts]

DAVID BULL TOP NOTCH 😊

[@biscuit4259]

Just the suggestion that Johnson joins Labour says everything

[@jasonthompson7378]

This honestly one of the best conversations I have seen in a long time. They don’t seem to be lying or at each other’s throats!

[@Clodhopping]

Of course all immigration has an impact on the NHS. Those "11 thousand illegal migrants" are entitled to twice weekly GP checks and access to NHS dentistry... Taxpaying citizens can't access that at all. I've had to wait months for blood tests and still can't see my local GP. Meanwhile I'm still working but feeling like sh*t until the NHS catches up. I've worked since i was 17 and do not expect to be put at the back queue to people who could've stayed in any other safe EU country. One factor on birth rate is the unaffordable cost of childcare to allow a parent to work. Or govt subsidies to give financial assistance so one parent can stay at home while the other works. Other cultures have families and communities who look after their own but the West generally doesn't instil those values. There's no party talking about the traditional family..

[@infoillness4222]

Nearly every single aspect of that diatribe in wrong I'm afraid...even the term "illegal migrants" is debateable...nearly 700,000 people came to the UK last year and you don't mention that...instead you bleat on about the state of our public services...well they are nothing to do with immigration...

[@lizeggar2421]

​@infoillness4222 😂😂 of course they are!! Illegal immigrants are a direct cause of all his complaints! What planet are you living on?

[@MihaiRUdeRO]

26:22 There you have it, torries admit the truth. They're actively fighting "wage inflation"... I guess regular inflation is fine, food inflation, housing inflation, fuel inflation. But when it comes to "wage inflation" AKA allowing wages to catch up to rising costs, that's when they put their foot down to appease the interests of big business over the average working person. Let them get poorer, make sure they never afford to purchase property, make sure their rents are as high as possible... but under no circumstance should their wages rise! Flood the country with immigrants to suppress their wages!

[@hansshell6792]

Reform is the only hope, this country has of having a commonsense government in parliament. Lord knows the Tories have been an absolute failure.

[@alanpage3973]

You can tell which Johnson brother got the brains

[@scooby1992]

Jo Johnson always made alot more sense than his brother .

[@jonathanbowen3640]

Indeed, This guy seems sensible.

[@MrBizteck]

He's too honest for politics.

[@lynnbarsby7356]

😅😅

[@GavinGas]

Neither. They're both posh clowns with plums in their mouth

[@marionlarkin1161]

Well done Harriet!! She gives a concrete example of the difficulties people feel on the ground ie the lady who is struggling to become a midwife.

[@huhollera]

Krishnan G-M is an exceptional interviewer in gentling teasing out the details - what a cracking interview and how likeable and sensible is David Bull - it's time for Reform.

[@vanman266]

Does it matter what proven liars say they will do?

[@ErinStephanie-mf2qk]

The only person who could rescue the Tories, was kicked out by Boris. Rory Stewart. Would appeal to the young, especially as he comes across more progressive, than most of the current Labour leadership, never mind his old party.

[@user-vc5zt9ci12]

Agreed. It may happen, IMO. It all depends if the right leaning groupings collapse and disappear or take over completely (which they are positioning for) after July 4th.

[@greatfelixo]

@@user-vc5zt9ci12 Stewart left the conservative party because he realised he was too good for them. He was actually qualified for his job. I would never vote Tory but I genuinely thought Rory Stewart would probably make a pretty good PM, I might not align with him on everything but he seems like he would have at least been competent, not so crooked and led using his head rather than by conservative doctrine.

[@whysa4]

Rory the remoaner, that's the last thing they need

[@scooby1992]

@@whysa4 Are people remoaners or just concerned with how Brexit is playing out ? Are people who voted remain entitled to an opinion on how things are going ?

[@tomb407]

The Tories would tear RS to shreds if he tried to make them nicer people/politicians

[@lonegroover01]

Traditional Labour and all working class voters need to hop on board the Reform revolution. You stand a much better chance with them.

[@junehitchcock170]

No I prefer a nurse who is fluent in English to nurse me at my most vulnerable.

[@lizeggar2421]

To be fair, I had a recent illness which meant I had to spend seven weeks in hospital. ALL the nurses were fluent in English, albeit with accents that sometimes made them difficult to understand, but they understood my needs and were all very kind. I only had a very few English nurses. It is worth noting that all the nurses had to pass tests in English to be hired. Then they had to pass rests set by the government, on life in England, plus having to pay a deposit to ensure they could support themselves for three months. They don't come across the channel on rubber boats. Just saying.

[@jenniferjuniper12]

Reform are center right. They’re not far right! I’m a conservative and the conservatives have lost my vote. They don’t resemble conservative values as I know grew up with them. Reform have my vote and I’m tired of people pushing them out of the limelight by labeling them ‘far right.’ I also really didn’t enjoy listening to Krishnan ridicule his guests.

[@marthajohns443]

Exactly right

[@chill_out_00]

So we have a reform rep on but no one from the lib dems or greens who have been here for more than five minutes?

[@Tigger-roo1234]

Yes, the top three polling parties

[@problemsolverthinktank859]

Is that Boris brother?? He seems so much more normal 😂

[@charlesabboud1613]

He’s the clever one, and very decent

[@Fulkumnuts]

Your right Boris is abnormal 😊

[@LordWalsallian]

He was an MP for a bit wasn’t he?

[@GavinGas]

​@@Fulkumnutsyour?

[@DJRockford83]

He believes in the replacement of the native population the same ie genocide 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@marioclara8357]

Johnson's brother ask some killer questions to the reform uk guy.

[@Fulkumnuts]

Because his brother killed brexit and the tory party's existence and all of them were muppets to the WEF, WHO, AND UN, UNELECTED GLOBALIST ORGANISATIONS I'll explain more if you want 😢

[@snakeplissken5480]

such as ?

[@misterhazz]

Anyone bothered by the tory failure on immigration has to vote Reform, because Labour don't even have it as a priority.

[@MaroonedInDub]

If immigrants are needed to fill shortages of staff in businesses then let the, soon to be richer, owners of those businesses house and support them and train them. Because when the profits are coming in, the tax payer won't get any.

[@rikkiit452]

My votes with reform and so is my families

[@paulsaintclair9761]

The real question they are all missing: Why British natives (All British citizens) cannot afford family life, to have children ?????

[@Fulkumnuts]

Paul very good comments but you won't get a reply from the tories 😊

[@JackGreen-gh6sw]

@paulsaintclair9761 The answer to that is not just due to finances. The uk left wing has destroyed British culture in favour of woke diversity culture, which has drastic effect on the youth. It's no longer "normal" to have a family, instead have multiple interracial one night stands

[@KhanCarnivore]

I was thinking the exact same thing mate. Me and my Mrs earn £40k between us, mid 20s. You improve the quality of life, mental health improves, more career drive. More money. More children. I know it isn't as simple as that, but there is logic in it. I would love more kids. We have one and the moment and she's amazing. But we can't afford another.

[@Fulkumnuts]

@@KhanCarnivore Totally agree Muslims 78%of women don't work and they have 6 to 8 children 67% of Muslim men don't work the women get free housing they don't pay interest on anything if they go to pray and drive through ULEZ they are renenburst 🙃 we are totally screwed we need change REFORM UK 🇬🇧 the last chance we've got 🤔

[@snufkinmatt162]

It's wrong to assume that the main cause of dropping birth rates is the cost of having a family. There are lots of social and cultural reasons why we're having less kids. The rate has been under 2 since the early 70s.

[@UpperClassPeasant]

David is great, very eloquent individual. Vote Reform!

[@hecter3008]

The voting system needs to change.

[@DDougz]

That's why you should vote lib dem then

[@hecter3008]

@@DDougz hahaha. Really? I would not vote for any of these lying creatures, Tory,labour,libs. They all want to turn this country into a British minority country. North London looks like a 3rd slum.

[@stephenhill545]

Tax, at 38%, is the highest since 1948. Lest we forget.

[@jonathanbowen3640]

Ageing population, massive pensions, unhealthy population demanding increasingly complex and expensive healthcare, broken property and home construction market, low productivity, aging infrastructure etc. It all needs paying for. The UK fundamentals are quite poor. UK will never have particularly low taxes ever again.

[@DJRockford83]

Then there's ever more tax on petrol, beer etc plus vat, CGT, inheritance tax, dividend tax,

[@AmenCP]

The party have been in power for some years; why now all these tax cut and the rest are coming up.

[@20electric]

13:10 restoring sovereignty? We enact our own laws, we enforce our own laws, we have our own army, we're sovereign, these people don't even know what the word means, we do govern ourselves. The ECHR protects human rights, I'm sorry but if respecting people's rights is getting in your way then what you want to do is wrong, deeply wrong. The UK was one of the states that drafted the ECHR and one of the first to ratify it, this wasn't forced upon us.

[@thomasfaux3699]

Refreshingly frank conversation

[@maneshipocrates]

There is no going back.

[@tomthumb2361]

Two right wingers and just one leftie. No LibDems or Greens. Yet another Johnson. We want competent and serious people with experience, grit and stamina. The 'blue skies' people I've come across in professional life were actually wreckers and never stayed the course. We'll never be 'great' again. Changing anything takes knowledge, intelligence and incredible levels of endurance and hard work. Not things I associate with Reform people - or the Tories, these days. No Peels or Salisburys in sight. Just a few would-be Disraelis.

[@theuntruescotsman5214]

Joe Johnson a right winger? Give me a break! They have representatives from each of the three highest polling parties, seems fair enough.

[@normasarsby1350]

Well said.

[@maudieedwards9332]

Reform...

[@nescommunity4597]

They say the NHS is struggling to fill vacancies. Actually what is happening now, third year nursing students cant actually get a job on qualifying . The same hospitals that claim to have vacancies will not employ their 3rd year nursing students upon qualification. There is no money to employ them and posts have been promised to oversees workers.

[@sysasst670]

How refreshing to hear an adult debate without the 3 main parties shouting over each other. What politics should be like.

[@seriousoldman8997]

Except it wasn't the three main parties.

[@jamesvdv0]

It seems that the more immigration we have (and, yes, it's never been higher) the more we seem to require, to fill all the gaps in our workforce and particularly the NHS. This is like being stranded at sea in a lifeboat and trying to quench your thirst by drinking seawater. 🤔

[@1ForTheShieldz]

😂 fantastic analogy ❤️🇬🇧

[@johndonson1603]

I’m using that.

[@damedusa5107]

But all known figures show that it’s not immigration that’s been causing the issues to begin with. Bad organisation and underfunding and waste is the causes. Look at Doctors now. Many smaller doctors surgery’s are now joining with others to maximise profits as the deal for GP’s is basically stand alone private systems. The system has been cut to ribbons. And a few are making millions out of it

[@snakeplissken5480]

by the NHS own stats the percentage of british staff is actually above the percentage of native born people in the country , its a complete fallacy to suggest its staffed by a disproportionate number of immigrants

[@marthajohns443]

True

[@alan_davis]

26:21 This is the truth. Reform's "net zero" immigration excludes students, health and social care. That number is about 600k... or almost exactly the same as it is today. Exactly the same as the Tories: promise the world but cannot deliver anything like what they say.

[@ZhukovsBoots]

The right will always promise low immigration, they will never even start trying to deliver that in power because their big business masters profit from immigration. I'm just amazed how right wing voters keep getting fooled by it election after election after election.

[@philipbunce6616]

We really do not believe him whatever he says anymore

[@Musicch-gi8ej]

EXACTLY!

[@estebancomulet]

They are the definition of gaslighting: “forget the last 14 years, I’ll change now, promise…”

[@jonathanbowen3640]

@@estebancomulet reported for spamming

[@chrisbovington9607]

Well this is scary. I oppose Reform wholeheartedly but this guy is composed and succint and concise and seemingly forthright and I have to say it ... COMPELLING. We're in so much trouble.

[@lizeggar2421]

Vote REFORM UK 🇬🇧 ❤️

[@markpalmer8083]

Maybe you should listen to what Reform's leadership actually says, rather than to what you're told that they've said, or to what to believe about them, by the corporate media, which hates them and resents any disruption to their cosy relationship with the establishment.

[@richardgale1287]

Wait, wait, wait... a Tory, Labour, and Reform... again? Just how far up Farage does the media want to go?

[@alan_davis]

Tend to agree, but they are the top 3 in the latest polls.

[@CapoKabar]

George and Nigel heading up Parliament soon. What a time to be Alive!

[@andybellklas1678]

I hadn't heard this guy before reform need to get him out in public more hes a great speaker.

[@abethebabe3835]

You can listen too him on talk radio

[@Fulkumnuts]

Paul Bull great speaker 🔊 😊

[@MVUK358]

yes much more charismatic than Richard Tice

[@Fulkumnuts]

@@MVUK358 sorry his name is DAVID BULL

[@rumpoh8039]

NO

[@jamesrush8351]

having the brother of the PMs biggest enemy, as a tory representative is laughable

[@1ForTheShieldz]

A Johnson isn't going to save them anymore

[@andrewjones-productions]

I agree that no one is going to trust a Johnson, but this particular one seems to be grounded, reasonable, sensible and has the courtesy to listen to other's opinions. As such, I was willing to listen to him, although I would never give him or his party my vote. His brother Boris is a buffoon and a self-centered liar, but Joe actually does sound intelligent.

[@sjc93]

​@@andrewjones-productionsCompletely agree with you.

[@stephenhill545]

Isn't Truss his biggest enemy? Or people who want to honour dead Candian, French, and American D-Day soldiers?

[@socialmediaavoider]

He’s his own worst enemy

[@ProjectKelstone]

I've not read any Reform policies which are far right. I'm not sure that term has the same meaning anymore if common sense policies is far right.

[@ManForToday]

The liberalism of Jo Johnson is scarily telling. He implies mass migration is perfectly sensible when you have a falling birth rate of the native population, you can just plug the gap by growing the population via migrants for the sake of growth and economic productivity... as if simply replacing a native Briton with a foreigner from anywhere is a like-for-like swap with no impact on the social fabric of the country at all. This is pretty extreme.

[@grahamkemp5102]

My wife had a serious accident two weeks ago. The two radiologists, and orthopedic surgeon she saw were all highly professional, compassionate and communicative, unlike a caucasian doctor who left her without adequate analgesia. We need 'foreigner' staff in our NHS and care services.

[@ManForToday]

@@grahamkemp5102 That's all well and good but this perpetuates the problem... we need foreign labour because we haven't trained enough of our own... because we've had too much foreign labour. It's a vicious circle. There's no reason why we can't allow in the skilled labour we do need in the meantime without the numbers growing net for unskilled labour.

[@MeiinUK]

But the natives are now billionaires abroad and millionaires.. so you created that problem. They own these slaves.... Economic ones. They control them via whether to approve or not their bank accounts to come here.

[@jonathanbowen3640]

@@ManForToday There is a price to pay for not allowing immigration though. It really is beneficial. Immigration is fine if managed in terms of integration culture, skill level etc. There don't have to be any negatives with it. It's easier, cheaper and quicker to bring a person in who has trained abroad. You can spend this money that's saved on the country as a whole. To do what reform are suggesting is probably impossible without economic damage similar to covid.

[@ManForToday]

@@jonathanbowen3640 If you're talking about reasonable numbers, yes. But that's not what's happened, it's been millions of people in such a short space of time.

[@degaulle30]

What a surprisingly honest conversation

[@ben-tendo]

I think one of the elements not being discussed is how several parties (Reform and the Lib Dems at the very least) are scrutinising the voting system itself, and are both asking for Proportional Representation. If Reform have 17% of the votes in the end, but don't even get a single seat (or at best, one) then are we really looking at a fair democratic system with FPTP that only looks after the top two parties?

[@Clare0116]

If that happens, Reform and Lib Dems can request a referendum for proportional representation! Reform can at least be a watchdog investigating Gov failings and corruption!

[@GonzoTehGreat]

The current system FPTP is inherently undemocratic and needs replacing. In a democracy your vote should count, whomever you vote for, but this isn't the case in the UK. Currently, those parties whose vote share is spread across constituencies don't get a number of seats which is proportional to their votes. PR would indeed correct this. Consequently, if you want Westminster to change you must vote for one of the parties that supports electoral reform. Voting Conservative or Labour maintains the status quo.

[@MVUK358]

Absolutely... It's shameful that British parliamentary democracy is so rigged. It makes no sense for a political party to get almost 2 million votes, but no representation in Parliament! Look at other European countries' parliaments - such diversity of voices: ecologists, right wing populists, far left, centre-right, centre-left, classical liberals, etc... as they have proportional representation!

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

The greens, SNP and plaid Cymry also support PR

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

I don't support farage in any way but I hope he succeeds in bringing PR. Incidentally it will lead to perpetual left wing coalitions, because nearly 60% vote for those parties, under PR the greens would be a big factor as lots of labour and LD voters actually want to vote green but vote tactically

[@SandraSeed]

3 great guests. Really enjoyed that. Makes such a refreshing change to listen to sense.

[@robertbanks3775]

BBC TAKE NOTE. THIS IS HOW TO BE IMPARTIAL!!

[@DJRockford83]

Not exactly but better than usual, there was rather too much time dedicated to rubbishing the party structure of Reform rather than on policy

[@A-bs2yh]

Rich people pretending to be normal people who want to use politics to get in so they can help all their rich friends. The UK is a prime example of why first past the post does not work

[@Fightzoneonly]

Vote reformuk let's change that

[@littlerollingwheels]

Jo Johnson just showing how out of touch the Tories really are. Just bleating on about the same old immigration argument, the Tories just don't get it, THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT ANY MORE IMMIGRANTS, stop trying to make your rich pals richer buddy

[@jonathanbowen3640]

People do want immigrants though. There is variation in the number and who would be counted. Noone wants no immigration, that's insane, with that policy would wouldn't have sports people moving to UK to play for local teams, or British people who emigrated moving back home, diplomats, foreign students, CEOs, actors etc etc. No immigration at all would be insanity and not one nation on earth has this policy. You need to think more before you type.

[@rrickarr]

Answer to the question: NO!

[@HenrySlade-i7r]

Well done David

[@linvisible7782]

A lot of people are finished with Labour too

[@grahamturner1290]

Get the Tories OUT.

[@estebancomulet]

Amen!!! 😊

[@LordBilliam]

12:40 Would the interviewer ask a gay Labour candidate how they can be in a party that has a huge number of Islamic members who have similar beliefs to the Northern Irish?

[@JT_Williams]

I only hear commonsense from Reform. They've got my vote.

[@steve-en7bm]

And mine!

[@mrstephenpariah]

That's because they know what the ignorant proletariat want to hear. It's the standard Hitler playbook. Anyone who votes for Reform is a sucker.

[@janewest2845]

Brilliant! Thank you Krishnan Guru-Murthy for holding the Reform mouth pieces, feet to the flame