The Old Man in the Cave - Twilight-Tober Zone

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Several themes and similar concepts were explored in previous installments of the series, but The Old Man in the Cave still manages to have an identity of its own. Join Walter as he discusses this episode of The Twilight Zone.
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"The Old Man in the Cave" is a half-hour episode of the original version of The Twilight Zone. It is set in a post-apocalyptic 1974, ten years after a nuclear holocaust in the United States. The episode is a cautionary tale about humanity's greed and the danger of questioning one's faith in forces greater than oneself.
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@thetalecollector
@thetalecollector 17 күн бұрын
Another interesting aspect to consider is how technology is portrayed more positively here. So many other stories have implied that any reliance, let alone over-reliance, on a computer or technology in general, as opposed to nature, is a bad thing. Yet in this case, the computer, an “unnatural” man-made inanimate object, was what was keeping the people alive.
@bandongkevin
@bandongkevin 12 күн бұрын
A lot of politics are corrupt we need this AI. Al doesn't need to eat or have pleasure or luxury.
@timezerohour8864
@timezerohour8864 5 күн бұрын
@@bandongkevin I feel like we need to have AI's paired with humans in that future. To give context and perspective to it.
@ImperfectXIII
@ImperfectXIII 17 күн бұрын
When the "Old Man" was revealed to be a computer, I immediately thought of the Futurama episode "Amazon Women in the Mood", where the Amazonians took all their orders from a Femputer. I guess the narratives differ though, since that episode was more of a "Wizard of Oz" story with the Femputer turning out to be a Fembot.
@Alterego912
@Alterego912 17 күн бұрын
I had the exact same thought.
@Awelbeckk
@Awelbeckk 17 күн бұрын
Death by snusnu is better than death by radioactive food.
@TheAlps36
@TheAlps36 16 күн бұрын
I really wanted that computer to say "THAT DOES NOT FEMPUTE!!"
@RockySamson
@RockySamson 16 күн бұрын
Could be an allusion to both, honestly.
@GrandInfernoElite
@GrandInfernoElite 16 күн бұрын
​@@Awelbeckk would you prefer the large women, the petite women, or the most beautiful women un amazonia? You can't be kif, so you must choose 1
@TheOneBearded
@TheOneBearded 16 күн бұрын
Man, I'm glad Twilight-tober is back.
@garretdrake2347
@garretdrake2347 17 күн бұрын
sometimes people think they're geniuses because they question everything, but doing so without looking at facts or logic makes them end up nothing more than deranged conspiracy theorists. this is one of many twilight zone episodes still relevant today.
@tomnook3274
@tomnook3274 17 күн бұрын
so many flat earthers. . . doubt for the sake of doubt is stupid.
@beauwalker9820
@beauwalker9820 13 күн бұрын
​@@tomnook3274 I was actually surprised they existed. I thought they were joking for years.
@trinaq
@trinaq 17 күн бұрын
Moral of the story: Don't destroy the super computer that's been the only thing keeping you alive for a decade. You'll be instantly wiped out, and the rest of the population won't last much longer.
@alexiaNBC
@alexiaNBC 17 күн бұрын
Unless it's AM from the story "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream."
@noahdean9685
@noahdean9685 17 күн бұрын
@@trinaq some people are just arrogant and cannot trust one another even a machine that was designed to keep people alive no matter what!
@Cameleonbates
@Cameleonbates 17 күн бұрын
​@@alexiaNBCGah! You beat me to it! As soon as I saw this comment i thought "unless its a super computer named AM!" Classic, horrifying story!
@kdusel1991
@kdusel1991 17 күн бұрын
​@@alexiaNBCOr HAL 9000 from 2001
@edwardhannah8507
@edwardhannah8507 15 күн бұрын
We don't need machines to do jobs, maaaan! *makes a McDonald's order and watches tiktok videos on their phones*
@jakeblankenship1408
@jakeblankenship1408 14 күн бұрын
"Because sometimes the truth isn't good enough. Sometimes, people deserve more. Sometimes, people deserve to have their faith rewarded."
@josephlosinno2456
@josephlosinno2456 17 күн бұрын
The world building here in this episode is incredible. Truly haunting.
@benjaminsvideochannel7189
@benjaminsvideochannel7189 17 күн бұрын
the twist with it being a computer really surprised me but it made sense
@Shorai_3
@Shorai_3 17 күн бұрын
Oh my god, I just realized this was an inspiration for the Futurama episode "Amazon Women in the Mood".
@kdusel1991
@kdusel1991 17 күн бұрын
Death by snu snu!!
@jlev1028
@jlev1028 17 күн бұрын
I sometimes return to this episode. The themes of "The Old Man in the Cave" are very provocative and complex, feeling like an anti-thesis to that one short story I read years ago about the dangers of relying on superintelligent computers for guidance.
@BenOzzy
@BenOzzy 17 күн бұрын
What! An advanced super computer was giving us advice? I thought it was a disheveled, crazy, old man in the cave just making pronouncements. Now, I am angry and don’t trust the advice I’m given by the advanced supercomputer. Must smash!
@trinaq
@trinaq 17 күн бұрын
Yep, anger can make you do inane things, but they certainly paid for it later on.
@BenOzzy
@BenOzzy 17 күн бұрын
@@trinaq it’s a well acted episode and I can accept the allegory but why were they angry? I get on a thematic level. But it’s weird they were willing to go along with following a weird “old man in the cave” then got angry at following the same advice from an advanced computer that might actually have innate abilities to answer those questions. Just always struck me as an odd twist.
@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement
@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement 17 күн бұрын
​@@BenOzzy To me, it's the underlying moral that lies, even in the name of good intentions, are still lies. The act of lying leads to certain destruction. If people cannot handle honesty, then they are not worth saving.
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 17 күн бұрын
@@BenOzzy i think is the typical "they lied to me! even if it is for my safety, they lied! so everything they said is now meaningless" i have seen that in fiction A LOT. the writers usually value truth SO MUCH it is rare seeing stories where they recognizce that sometimes lies are necessary
@Reoko77
@Reoko77 17 күн бұрын
Hulk SMASH!!
@Torgo-and-the-Lucifer-Cat
@Torgo-and-the-Lucifer-Cat 17 күн бұрын
Anderson was such a great actor, he totally sells it. Every. Time. ❤❤❤
@ClutchCargo001
@ClutchCargo001 17 күн бұрын
Yes! Like Burgess Meredith, John Fiedler, Donald Pleasence and Bill Shallert, these guys never became major stars or had their own series, but they were the blue collar workhorses who kept the mill churning out great shows.
@etrisb
@etrisb 16 күн бұрын
Anderson was great in everything. I especially like him in an episode of Star Trek: TNG called "The Survivors."
@Torgo-and-the-Lucifer-Cat
@Torgo-and-the-Lucifer-Cat 16 күн бұрын
@@etrisb and in both, he is left the lonely, peaceful sole survivor!!
@etrisb
@etrisb 16 күн бұрын
@@Torgo-and-the-Lucifer-Cat But, on the other hand, he's still stuck on flight 33 somewhere.
@EdmxndDantes
@EdmxndDantes 6 күн бұрын
I knew I had seen him in the Twilight Zone episode "Of Late I Think of Cliffordville". He also appeared in Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho (1960) as used car salesman "California Charlie", who sells a car to Marion Crane (Janet Leigh).
@LordGreystoke
@LordGreystoke 8 күн бұрын
I love Serling's closing narration
@trinaq
@trinaq 17 күн бұрын
Had Goldsmith been honest with the townspeople that the "Old Man" Keeping them alive was a computer, then the tragic ending could have been entirely avoided. Then again, perhaps he realised how short sighted they were, and that lying was the only way they'd listen.
@cyberangel2787
@cyberangel2787 17 күн бұрын
IIRC the context of the episode is that using computers somehow caused the war in the first place.
@KingBuilder525
@KingBuilder525 15 күн бұрын
@@cyberangel2787 I forgot that part. Now it makes a bit more sense why they don't like computers.
@SakuraAvalon
@SakuraAvalon 15 күн бұрын
Or better yet, if the people didn't choose to side with some loud mouths who pulled into town, over siding with the guy who had been keeping them alive.
@raywalton1291
@raywalton1291 15 күн бұрын
One of my favorite episodes. I consider it to be the series most underrated episodes as well.
@plucas1
@plucas1 17 күн бұрын
In the early 1960s, a super computer would have seemed much more alien and disturbing than it would be to us today. So yes, seeing the mob from that era smash the computer after being lied to about it is an understandable response from them. Not a smart one, mind you, but it follows.
@TheNotverysocial
@TheNotverysocial 16 күн бұрын
But then, it wasn't that bright to have perpetuated this lie for so long. Goldsmith's facade is not like God, as there is hard evidence of what this really is. He had many chances to tell the truth, especially when pressed about it, yet he kept spinning this myth.
@KingBuilder525
@KingBuilder525 15 күн бұрын
maybe a little but these were people who were familiar with cars and phones, not cavemen.
@noahdean9685
@noahdean9685 17 күн бұрын
War... war never changes that's what I feel like this episode.
@weybye91
@weybye91 17 күн бұрын
Was about to write the same
@noahdean9685
@noahdean9685 17 күн бұрын
@@weybye91 lol
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 14 күн бұрын
16 times the detail
@precious_muse
@precious_muse 17 күн бұрын
This was the first episode of The Twilight Zone that really captured my attention. That twist, man! It made the information he got from the "old man" make sense.
@promontorium
@promontorium 15 күн бұрын
Not knowing any more about the episode, my guess is that computer was one used for the nuclear war. That would explain it being in a mountain behind a blast door. It would explain the secrecy and hostility around it. The computers ended civilization. Of course they just did what humans asked it to do, and when asked to keep people alive, it did that too.
@BelcherKendric-vn7ke
@BelcherKendric-vn7ke 15 күн бұрын
That is a good guess.
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 17 күн бұрын
Another great episode with a great twist ending!
@wstine79
@wstine79 17 күн бұрын
The Old Man was the Siri of the Twilight Zone.
@Shorai_3
@Shorai_3 17 күн бұрын
More like generative AI as a whole.
@mudvalve
@mudvalve 15 күн бұрын
One of the few “twists” of the TZ that I didn’t expect when I watched this episode the first time!
@1991sth
@1991sth 16 күн бұрын
Well it's nice to back for this year's Twilight-Tober Zone and yeah this episode definitely seems interesting
@jacquespoulemer
@jacquespoulemer 16 күн бұрын
One of my favorites. Freud pointed out that although we have a strong survival instinct there is a 'death wish' as well.
@Federico_D_B
@Federico_D_B 12 күн бұрын
This was actually my first zone episode, many years ago, and it blew my mind
@tommyjones7096
@tommyjones7096 17 күн бұрын
I remember a similar thing happening in an episode of the 1990s "The Outer Limits" reboot. A group of people had been imprisoned by alien invaders. They escaped and found a tree with fruit growing on it. The ersatz leader advised against eating it since they'd heard the plants had become highly toxic. One brash guy ignored her and convinced others to join him in eating the fruit. Shortly after, everyone who ate the fruit got sick and died.
@theproplady
@theproplady 15 күн бұрын
You never hear anyone go "Hey, let's just have ONE person try it out to see if it's dangerous!" in these kinds of stories, do you?
@stevenpina1983
@stevenpina1983 Күн бұрын
I hope they cover the 90s outer limits series. Hardly anyone does
@tommyjones7096
@tommyjones7096 Күн бұрын
@@stevenpina1983 I'm pretty sure Rene Auberjonois was an alien in that episode, too.
@julieporter7805
@julieporter7805 17 күн бұрын
In some ways, Goldsmith is a foil for Bensteen in "On Thursday We Leave For Home." Both are leaders of a group of survivors. Both create rules that the others follow but also act like father figures. Both also argue with outsiders who question their authority and get the people to their side. But the difference is in the message and the outcome. "On Thursday," they were being led to embrace life whereas here they are being asked yo face death. It shows the extremes that while structure can be confining, too much liberation without any sort of restraint can be just as bad if not worse. The comparison shows that no one way is the same for everyone and for every circumstance. Sometimes context and specific examples should be measured and weighed before deciding the outcome.
@TankCop
@TankCop 16 күн бұрын
In Fallout 3 the super computer that takes the role of John Henry Eden leader of the ENCLAVE is just like the old man in this show.
@Ladykat1808
@Ladykat1808 17 күн бұрын
Really hope Walter decides to cover the 80s seasons. Love having these to look forward to every night in October x
@shinjinaraku4251
@shinjinaraku4251 16 күн бұрын
I hope he does that, or covers some of the other sci-fi series like The Outer Limits.
@jcollins1305
@jcollins1305 14 күн бұрын
A solid episode with a thought provoking theme.
@TransistorBased
@TransistorBased 17 күн бұрын
The best types of world building set the ground rules and the background, and leave the events and the viewer's mind to fill in some of the specifics.
@doomcool7960
@doomcool7960 13 күн бұрын
I am convinced Mr.Goldsmith was actually god telling everyone not to eat the damn apple but as expected someone leads them astray and they all take a bite of that apple
@philipportelli7700
@philipportelli7700 17 күн бұрын
The people turned on the man who told them "No" with good reason and in good faith for the man who told them "Yes" for no reason and in exchange for obedience!
@weareallbronies9031
@weareallbronies9031 17 күн бұрын
fun fact! the guy with the white curly hair and black mustache is john marley, who played the producer in the godfather.
@trinaq
@trinaq 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for the fun Fact, I knew that he looked familiar. 😊
@thedoif2540
@thedoif2540 17 күн бұрын
@@trinaqhe was also David’s father in the 70s “Incredible Hulk” tv show.
@Debatra.
@Debatra. 17 күн бұрын
...And if you actually watch the video, that's specifically commented on.
@sawg4607
@sawg4607 17 күн бұрын
He was also in It's Alive 2
@slyfox2022
@slyfox2022 16 күн бұрын
My son...press play first watch the video then comment
@MforMovesets
@MforMovesets 17 күн бұрын
I sometimes think the twist is going to be a crossover. Like the man in the cave being the same guy that was left behind by his community in another episode (even though it makes no sense).
@heidifedor
@heidifedor 17 күн бұрын
Examination Day is one of my favorite episodes of the 1985 version. It too had a tragic ending.
@niriop
@niriop 5 күн бұрын
I was saying just the other day that Slesar is one of the most under-appreciated writers of the mid-20th century. He influenced pop culture at myriad points, including in his scripts for Alfred Hitchcock Presents (he also wrote hundreds of stories in every area of genre fiction, dozens of CBS radio plays and was the head writer on *three* different soap operas), and yet you can’t buy a single one of his short story collections from even a small press these days.
@donjezza10
@donjezza10 17 күн бұрын
Reminds me of Big Boss's speech in Metal Gear Solid, about becoming a slave to the pursuit of liberty.
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 10 күн бұрын
"War... has changed". - Solid Snake
@wstine79
@wstine79 17 күн бұрын
Who knew 1974 was a barren wasteland in Twilight Zone?
@jinpei05
@jinpei05 17 күн бұрын
*barren
@WebMonkey741
@WebMonkey741 16 күн бұрын
I dunno did you see the furniture of that time?!? 😅
@rogue7723
@rogue7723 8 күн бұрын
I’m _so glad_ Walter mentioned _Snow Dogs,_ it was _one of my favorite_ movies growing up. 😊
@michaelquinones-lx6ks
@michaelquinones-lx6ks 17 күн бұрын
Twilight Zone season 5 airing around the time of The Fugitive and The Outer Limits over at ABC-TV
@aeon87
@aeon87 17 күн бұрын
The twist is a double edged sword here. Its perfectly reasonable to believe a super computer is the cause of the wars and suffering yet in this case, it kept everyone safe in this harsh reality. Its like the "liar revealed" trope. Sure he lied but it still helped everyone.
@jackbrennan1125
@jackbrennan1125 16 күн бұрын
I don't know why a nebulous old man living in a cave nobody has ever seen is more trustworthy than a super computer though. None of this makes any sense.
@aeon87
@aeon87 16 күн бұрын
@@jackbrennan1125 rage makes you do dumb things that you regret.
@jackbrennan1125
@jackbrennan1125 16 күн бұрын
@@aeon87 I think if this episode dropped the deception angle and the soldiers were challenging the authority of the computer. To me it seems like the man was just fucking with the townspeople for no reason
@TayoEXE
@TayoEXE 14 күн бұрын
​@@jackbrennan1125This was the 1960s. The concept of a computer was very new. Not only do I think people would question whether a machine would have their best interest at heart (as it does not have one) but also whether it could. What did a "computer" mean to people back then? Let alone a "super computer"? It's easy for us to talk of it now as we trust our lives even with the likes of Google, weather forecasts, etc. Found in portable devices everyone uses. It's familiar. To these people, the idea of a wise or deity like person seems to mean that at least the source of information is coming from a human or actual living creature. As they take small, desperate steps and leaps of faith, their confidence increases as they're the only living settlement. Compound that for a decade, and your confidence grows stronger and stronger. Basically, it's a time period thing in my opinion. The whole series often explores the idea of whether humans can trust or see robots, machines, like real people. These concepts were more science fiction than reality back then.
@nakamaswarrior292
@nakamaswarrior292 17 күн бұрын
Safety....or the truth? Very deep.
@vdo3000
@vdo3000 16 күн бұрын
Goldsmith is actually an alien. In the 24th century, he moves to the Federation colony Delta Rana IV. Which is where he crosses paths with Captain Jean-Luc Picard and the USS Enterprise crew.
@Gojiro7
@Gojiro7 17 күн бұрын
man, its weird to watch this video after a all night binge play of Fallout 4 XD
@HandsomeSteveJacobson
@HandsomeSteveJacobson 17 күн бұрын
Can’t get enough of these
@TramiNguyen-oi3kp
@TramiNguyen-oi3kp 17 күн бұрын
I love this Twilight Zone episode!
@popper03244
@popper03244 17 күн бұрын
After this I think I will marathon the previous years Twilight-Tober videos.
@LemonGoofball
@LemonGoofball 16 күн бұрын
Awesome! You’re still making these!
@Undeadpriest94
@Undeadpriest94 17 күн бұрын
What makes this episode hit so hard is that it unknowing predicted the recent trend of rejecting science and reasoning. How manipulative idiots who seek influence and political power will call upon people to reject proven scientific authority for the sake of "freedom", and in doing so not only put their own lives at risk but at the risk of so many others.
@jackbrennan1125
@jackbrennan1125 16 күн бұрын
I think this episode would be massively helped if everyone knew it was a computer straight from the start and that was what the soldiers were attacking and questioning. Making it some mystical old man invites people to be highly skeptical of it and there was really no reason for the deception in universe. I like the idea of what you just laid out but that's not what the episode is about. The episode is about trusting authority implicitly with absolute faith and never questioning anything even if it's impossible nonsense.
@gryphonofmight
@gryphonofmight 17 күн бұрын
The ending of this one was really freaky
@TheNotverysocial
@TheNotverysocial 16 күн бұрын
Goldsmith should never have lied about the computer being an old recluse in a cave.
@Wildfire667
@Wildfire667 17 күн бұрын
One of the first episodes of the zone I really remember seeing. Always thought it was great stuff.
@cerneysmallengines
@cerneysmallengines 16 күн бұрын
was starting to think walter had died
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 17 күн бұрын
Love this series 🎃❤️
@eerieeric834
@eerieeric834 17 күн бұрын
I think this concept of this episode was used in a Star Trek episode
@nonnayerbusiness7704
@nonnayerbusiness7704 17 күн бұрын
And a Lower Decks episode when the planet relapsed into worshipping the computer again.
@claytonrios1
@claytonrios1 17 күн бұрын
Caves almost always are a bad sign in horror...
@CarlosRodela
@CarlosRodela 16 күн бұрын
Forgot about this one - and I really dig it. Sad ending but like you said, very interesting world building and just a great zone ep
@yahurdd69420
@yahurdd69420 17 күн бұрын
I made a account * technically from one of those age restricted episodes* just to say this, please do the later series even though theyre bad you make these episodes a bit more fun and also ive been watching since the 2nd one came out!
@dsharpness
@dsharpness 3 күн бұрын
Soo, just read about Julian James, the bicameral mind, and the Delphic Oracle...not the first time...and I couldn't wait to watch Twilight Zone as a kid-Rod Serling the Oracle, this episode autobiographical!😄
@hippybuddhist
@hippybuddhist 17 күн бұрын
I've long felt this episode could almost be a companion piece to 1989's Casualties of War. Although the stories are markedly different; they share several plot points: an authority figure out of his depth who resorts to force and violence and calls it authority; a lone voice of reason trying to protect something but ,ultimately, has to witness its abuse and demise while he looks on helplessly, and a group of people blindly following the one they perceive as being the most powerful, even though logic, and morals, may dictate otherwise. Add to these an air of hopelessness, the contant threat of violence and, at times, nihilism and the thread, however thin, connects. For me, at least.
@shanemoose3235
@shanemoose3235 14 күн бұрын
Great episode! In my opinion, there’s a very thin line between having Blind Faith and being a Zealot. The society in this episode were always doomed to eventually fall, but French’s influence accelerated the inevitable
@wjzav1971
@wjzav1971 16 күн бұрын
I don't quite get the logic of wanting to smash an advanced super-computer when they originally thought that there was no-one in that cave.
@averyvincent1868
@averyvincent1868 17 күн бұрын
I saw this episode for the first time last week, and was struck by how closely it mirrors the Biblical tale of the Garden of Eden. Anderson tells the few people what food not to eat, lest they die. Major French is the Serpent, telling the people to ignore the advice of a supposedly fictitious higher authority, after which the people are expelled from Paradise. (In this case, that means death.) This was basically copied for the Star Trek episode "The Apple," right down to a military officer destroying the computer in the cave. (Kirk's story admittedly has a happier ending.)
@TheNotverysocial
@TheNotverysocial 16 күн бұрын
Only unlike God, there is hard evidence of this, and spinning a myth had dire consequences.
@theproplady
@theproplady 15 күн бұрын
@@TheNotverysocial There was "hard evidence" in the story of Eden because God was an actual being that talked to Adam and Eve. They would have had no reason to doubt anything that God had told them, just like the villagers in this episode had no reason to doubt the "Old Man in the Cave" since his predictions were always right. Their turning against the computer was an emotional, irrational act, just like Adam and Eve turning against the being that created them or modern day people turning against law and wisdom to embrace destructive things like addiction. The only thing "spinning a myth" did in the TZ story was keep the villagers alive because without faith, they never would have trusted the computer since they had irrational beliefs about technology.
@TheNotverysocial
@TheNotverysocial 15 күн бұрын
@@theproplady Goldsmith could still have told the truth when pressed for it.
@melissadahl7561
@melissadahl7561 17 күн бұрын
psychologically this is such an interesting episode. Not one I watch very much, but I do like it. John Anderson really is great to watch.
@spectreagent00
@spectreagent00 17 күн бұрын
One of my favorites!
@WebMonkey741
@WebMonkey741 16 күн бұрын
I luv the bit part that James Coburn has in the Mel Gibson movie "Payback" : "Man! That's just MEAN!"
@kdusel1991
@kdusel1991 17 күн бұрын
Another awesome episode!!
@HarvestStore
@HarvestStore 16 күн бұрын
Great video.
@fredrikcarlstedt393
@fredrikcarlstedt393 17 күн бұрын
Nice to see MacGyvers grandpa turning up for the last time here .
@Elephant2024-wi2li
@Elephant2024-wi2li 3 күн бұрын
Interesting comparison of this episode with 'On Thursday We Leave For Home.' I also thought of 'The Gift' where the townspeople again made the wrong choice by killing the alien and destroying what would have been a cure for cancer.
@theproplady
@theproplady 15 күн бұрын
I feel that this is one of those TZ episodes with no villain. The people were desperate and had been denied most pleasures for years, so it's understandable that they would crack and disobey orders so they could enjoy themselves. Major French sounds like someone who could have been a hero if the "old man" in the Cave had actually manipulated and enslaved the people for its own interests. (Star Trek had many episodes where Kirk or Picard would liberate a trapped population from an evil AI or tyrannical being.) Goldsmith seems morally ambiguous because he lied to the people under his care, but it's was done with good intentions; technology had doomed the planet after all and computers were probably viewed with suspicion. I feel the bad ending of this episode was brought on because people HAD to rely on faith to get by, and it's human nature to discard faith if (a) you can't see the logic or reasoning behind it and (b) an alternative path opens that promises you a better, easier life.
@CaptainCJ97
@CaptainCJ97 17 күн бұрын
4:55 i swear this episode gave off this vibe
@Smiththeinspiringanimator
@Smiththeinspiringanimator 17 күн бұрын
Amazing!🤩
@BreezeDorling
@BreezeDorling 17 күн бұрын
(The Elephant in the Room pipes in singing "Futurama")
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 17 күн бұрын
4:57 It is an interestin compare contrast with "On Thursday we leave for home"
@GBmovieluv
@GBmovieluv 17 күн бұрын
RIP James Corburn
@HamdiTafa
@HamdiTafa 17 күн бұрын
Love these
@lilypolak
@lilypolak 15 күн бұрын
That slap tho😮
@jrr2480
@jrr2480 17 күн бұрын
This episode is basically the stories of the Bible in a nut shell. Great episode, and very important message.
@Nasser851000
@Nasser851000 17 күн бұрын
Aka Gandalf if he never became a wizard 😆
@goldenboy82
@goldenboy82 12 күн бұрын
After you finish the classic Twilight Zone you should do the 80s Zone for October. There's quite a bit of good stories in that version as well.
@kinglyone7172
@kinglyone7172 16 күн бұрын
The first thing that came to my mind when I saw this episode was, was it the computer that helped start the war and one of the reasons they don't trust it.
@timezerohour8864
@timezerohour8864 5 күн бұрын
When I watched it growing up I just figured that Mr.Goldsmith must have been someone that worked on the project to build Old Man. Might have just been the one IT guy that survived and only knew how to feed it data also.
@Torgo-and-the-Lucifer-Cat
@Torgo-and-the-Lucifer-Cat 16 күн бұрын
To those remarking on the Futurama episode: it TOO is a parody, of a hilarious B movie, "Amazon women on the moon"! ❤
@adelaidefinch6197
@adelaidefinch6197 16 күн бұрын
Just sitting here, surviving in Atlanta, GA. 🎉
@DanielCrookeFilms
@DanielCrookeFilms 17 күн бұрын
Walter, please, please do the 80’s reboot when the OG series finishes this month, it would be awesome to have you discuss that Sir. 👍🏽
@ClutchCargo001
@ClutchCargo001 17 күн бұрын
Lots of people are calling for you to do 'Night Gallery' and I would totally watch that. But it might require some culling as there were some real stink-a-roonies in NG. Maybe a 'best of' NG? Just an idea.
@HighAsHeckPriestess
@HighAsHeckPriestess 17 күн бұрын
Its an interesting one to rewatch in the 21st century when most of everything runs by computers and the internet. Like if Google stopped working for 24 hours, most of us wouldn't know what to do. Its a fascinating episode to ponder what happens to a society that relies on technology to contain all the information necessary for human survival, and I wonder what a 2024 version of this episode would have to add to it.
@nataliegray8019
@nataliegray8019 17 күн бұрын
I always wondered if the last man standing was an alien. His monologue at the end feels so dissociative, like he isn't a part of mankind himself. That would explain how he kept the computer running for a decade in a post-apocalyptic world, too. This whole episode really makes you think. For ten whole years, these people were relying on the "old man" to guide and protect them without ever seeing him or even hearing his voice, and they trusted it blindly. It's a perfect allegory for religion, making the viewer question their own faith and beliefs a little.
@nickmanzo8459
@nickmanzo8459 16 күн бұрын
Really like this one as an allegory for faith. Society collapses when faith is abandoned. Even if what your faith was in turns out to be different than what you thought it was, at least its advice was good.
@miguelatkinson
@miguelatkinson 15 күн бұрын
Idk the more you look at it the more as an allegory for faith ends not being good
@neonnwave1
@neonnwave1 14 күн бұрын
I figured out immediately that the Old Man was just a computer. Knowing about crops is one thing, but being able to predict the weather was a dead give away. This episode has aged well. We see this sort of thing happening even today. New comers are allowed into a space where things are fine, but then those new comers force their dominance and ruin everything because of their selfishness and ignorance. We see this in fandoms, businesses, sports, media production, politics, social movements, etc.
@Oppeldeldoc1
@Oppeldeldoc1 16 күн бұрын
Another thing that makes James Coburn right for the role is that no one was better at playing "roguish" characters that you also like. So no wonder French wins everyone over. When it comes to weird things, John Anderson is also great in the OUTER LIMITS episode "Nightmare" (though he's under a huge amount of make-up as the space creature).
@defender2222
@defender2222 8 күн бұрын
I personally think that this episode needed one more thing to truly make it work perfectly. They should have revealed that the war was started because people trusted machines. That they put too much faith into them. This would explain why the soldiers are willing to destroy the supercomputer and why the supercomputers presence was hidden. But then have the elder state that it was not the machines that did it it was humanity trusting them so much that they didn't think for themselves. Commenting that he never forced anyone to obey the machine he merely relayed what it said. Pointing out that he allowed them to do the farming how they did and it turned out it was a mistake. But also have it that he comments that it never told them who they need to marry or the like. It's all about balance. But the people don't believe him and do not trust the machine and as such die
@joshuacritchfield3564
@joshuacritchfield3564 16 күн бұрын
Sometimes it's necessary to tell small lies, to get people to do the right thing. If they knew that he was basing this on a computer, they may have ignored him and gotten themselves killed sooner. Most likely he grew up with these people and knew that they would not listen to him. So he gave them a wise person to listen to.
@DaisyAzuras
@DaisyAzuras 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, this reminds me of. It’s something that would happen in a fallout game, particularly the first two fallouts and maybe fallout new Vegas.
@cherylcampbell9369
@cherylcampbell9369 17 күн бұрын
There was a similar computer in a Star Trek TOS episode.
@kali3665
@kali3665 15 күн бұрын
Still consider this my favorite episode from Season 5. I didn't get to read the Henry Slesar short story until many years after first watching the episode, and I was amazed how little Serling's script has to do with it. Basically, the only link to the story is the punchline, but it's a good punchline even if it never made sense how the "Old Man" got in the cave in the first place and what's powering it in the second place. John Anderson in his final TZ episode and James Coburn in his ONLY TZ appearance work well here. Once again, we focus on Sering's true strength as a writer: the character study. Mr Goldsmith could have come across as a religious demagogue, but something about the character stops just short of that. Meanwhile, we have Major French who reacts exactly as we probably would when confronted by yet another odd belief to come out of the post-apocalyptic world. He and his men are quick to defy the "will" of the Old Man, and waste no time convincing the community to do likewise. Only Goldsmith remains true. Now, the ending is a little odd, considering that it comes across as if everyone died overnight. Surely, everyone would have died gradually over time as the radiation sickness took hold, long enough for French to realize there IS something wrong. But we don't get that shift, and it is the only real problem I have with the episode. Lastly, I always questioned how the "Cult" of the Old Man started. Serling's intro says it's been ten years since the nuclear devastation, and I figured that hardly seems long enough for the all-consuming worship we see to take hold and be accepted with little question by everyone in town. But then, today, we have Trump Worship which completely controlled his worshipers in far less time, so I may no longer need to question this. 😏 Still, even with the very clear flaws, I did like the episode.
@aaronmccarthy875
@aaronmccarthy875 17 күн бұрын
Hey Walter, have you ever watched The haunting hour? It's kind of like Goosebumps but a lot more intense
@rogers1032
@rogers1032 17 күн бұрын
Could you please do these as part of FanScription • What if Disney’s Cinderella didn’t make it to the ball (Disney’s Cinderella 1950movie) • What if Bambi's Mother survived (Disney’s Bambi) • What if Flik and Atta had children (A Bug's Life 2) • The Incredibles vs The Sinister Six (Doctor Octopus, Electro, Kraven the Hunter, Mysterio, Sandman and Vulture) • What if DreamWorks’s Rise of the Guardians 2 happened? • What if Disney’s Tarzan and friends found an unground world with dinosaurs and a lost civilization of people who mistake Jane as a Goddess (Disney’s Tarzan 2) • What if Elsa was the main villain of Disney’s Frozen • Batman vs The Green Goblin • Spider-man vs The Joker • What if The Evil Queen (from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 1937movie) had won? • What if Ridley Scott directed Alien 3
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