LSV Takes on Khans of Tarkir Draft!

[@bigwig8657]

Going back to khans makes me like the 1 drop centric limited now even less.

[@bevrosity]

these were the good old days.

[@bumfricker2487]

between the toxic of ONE and LCI's pump the 1/1 Flyer meta, woof yeah I feel ya

[@Chubbs89]

I prefer the new limited by a lot

[@intuit13]

@@bevrosity i came back to the game after 20yrs (played when I was a kid in 94-96) at the Fate Reforged prerelease. First time ever playing limited (skimmed a "how to make a sealed deck" video right before I ran out the door) and had a blast. I almost made the finals in a fairly big room (50+), but didn't due to some asshat in round1 telling me I should take the draw with him because I'd never be able to kill him in time ( I didn't realize I would have had the 5 turns - he would have been dead 100%); I was juyst there to have fun so I was like, "ok, whatever". Kinda salty about it later on, though - dude dropped out after like 2-3 rounds). Anyway, I was surprised how much I enjoyed limited. It was sealed in that case, and I still have the deck. I had a Dromoka (Eternal?), Worldscale Dragon, and a Crux of Fate (and an Archfiend of Depravity which I never got to play except that first round) , along with some decent stuff like an abzan charm and I believe valorous stance. Only game I really got dumped on in was that very first round, game2 the kid curved out right into a Whisperwood Elemental, lmao. But I think I haad a pretty solid deck! I went again for Dragons of Tarkir and I still have that deck, too. I honestly like it even better but I did not do as well in that one.

[@wwbodywork5582]

Wish I would’ve been playing back when this set first released! I love the pacing of the matches and how evenly matched it feels.

[@benyseus6325]

I did, it was pretty meh imo. If you can see the cards are very underpowered and outlast was a broken mechanic in a sea of mediocrity. The only mind games involved was double blocking because of morph and the abundance of combat tricks

[@g.n.s.]

I thought it was awesome! I’m sure something will come out again that will make you feel the same way I did!

[@fpejanovic]

nah the format was and still is great. everything is slow and fair, you win through skill.@@benyseus6325

[@KILOBify]

yeh wotc used to know how to make good limited sets.

[@haxploitationpeople]

It's my all time favorite. Doing Jeskai for my prerelease pack at a midnight prerelease is one of my favorite magic memories, and I drafted the hell out of the set on MTGO--definitely my most-played set and the one that I feel like I got the best at. There's so many cool decks to be drafted--the clans, the black-white Warriors deck, the five-color deck that's just all the removal plus all the guys that effectively draw you a card so you grind out an advantage, the five-color all morphs deck with Secret Plans, plenty of two-color variants. The games tend to be slow, so you get these epic back-and-forth matches where the advantage goes back and forth several times and both players see most of their deck. Sadly there's one thing about the set that doesn't come through on Arena--when you are playing a game in classic pod draft fashion (where you play against the same people you draft with), the 5-color deck worked better because 1-2 five color drafters vacuuming up all the fixing could make the other players have noticeably worse decks, and giving your slower 5-color deck time to do its thing because your opponents would be dealing with either clunky mana or not being able to play their powerful gold cards.

[@glasseagle8368]

Love seeing Khans back! Truly one of the greats for limited. As many of these drafts as you can get to us!

[@dylanm9071]

seconded!

[@jonathanemontgomery]

I would have taken the secret plans and gone hard on 5 color morphs 😂

[@G.Aaron.Fisher]

I remember there being a secret archetype in Khans of banners into hard cast morphs, and expensive rares. The bread-and-butter morphs of the formats are much more efficient when cast face-up, so you can quickly make up tempo by bannering them out. This has the upside of also fixing for lots of colors and letting you vacuum up any bombs that get opened by people playing the wrong colors. The key cards were banners, 2-drops that block 2/2s, and all the good expensive spells.

[@fpejanovic]

yes, 5c good stuff.

[@nekrataali]

It's also a really easy archetype to draft because you prioritize lands. Having like 3 basics, 15 multicolor lands, and then just snatch up any banners and bombs you can find. I remember winning a game in sealed during pre-release where I kept 6 tap lands that gained life and a Pearl Lake Ancient. The format was just that slow and durdly 🤣

[@janthomassen9577]

Awesome, best draft set ever, (and also the last time I played Standard seriously). Love it!

[@bevrosity]

definitely one of my favorite formats from back in the day.

[@jondorsey2043]

Was thinking earlier today 'I wouldn't dare hit that draft button without having LSV's insight'. And then i get home from work and this is in my feed. 😊

[@nottoday9098]

I wonder if we will see the fabled goblin slide once more

[@Glitterblossom]

Please please please do as many of these as possible!!

[@jaybieber5828]

Double Secret plans plus ghost fire blade! Would have been sick.

[@ryanrhinoceros2123]

This was the smoothest draft I’ve seen in a bit

[@CrossMax122]

was this a back to back to back abzan guide in the packs? what are the chances lol :P

[@bevrosity]

any set where i can easily draft 3+ colors i love. shards of alara being my favorite.

[@notanetdeck5264]

There’s a free attack with Scion at 22:33

[@m3grim]

While I don't appreciate the Sultai slander, I do love seeing some good ol' Tarkir back on the draft table ❤️

[@monolith94]

Yeah sultai could be great when it came together

[@m3grim]

​@@monolith94 I'm also just a dyed in the wool Sultai mage, but yes, I thought delve was great. The rares were underwhelming, but turning your graveyard into a resource that no one else is using? I'm all for that value

[@monolith94]

@@m3grim Villainous wealth and sidisi are pretty high impact though, and it's the clan that makes the best use of dead drop imo

[@LunaLasceria]

If Savage Punch was an instant you could make a really cool play at 43:40, but alas.

[@CptSaveABro808]

I’m here for the thumbnail 🤣🤙🏽

[@Xanathosevilinc]

Missed LSV play Tarkir so much ❤

[@demiurge2501]

Can someone explain what raksashas really are? I get them changing the creature type because they aren’t really cats but I still don’t understand them fully

[@LunaLasceria]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakshasa

[@fpejanovic]

they're demons, as the creature type accurately reflects. the only reason they were originally cats is because WotC incorrectly went off of the DnD guide from decades ago that had art of raksashas as cats, which was just inaccurate based off of hindu mythology.

[@MrAndoProductions]

you seem to be the only person other than me who actually likes playing khans in current year

[@g.n.s.]

I too remember khans as being super exciting and almost a gateway into the community again. Temur was what i usually drifted towards, solely because that kind of deck was actually able to pack a bunch and take a beating from all the other crazy stuff going on. Edit: can’t pass up a Ghostfire blade, either.

[@pokeyoureyeman2288]

Khans is fun. I opened a Surrak Dragonclaw on arena and made a brawl deck that's mostly Temur cards, even the bad ones; And it has a good win ratio. I forgot Temur is not only big creatures but counter play too. I had a game earlier where I won with a Trap Essence and Savage Punch.

[@g.n.s.]

@@pokeyoureyeman2288Surrak is such a great card… Glad you’re having fun!

[@jesselove3715]

Does anyone else want to mute the sounds from the game in the recording?

[@RPG_Bliss]

Nice! More Khans please

[@BloodyFox1]

18:50 really didn't like attacking with the Windscout in this position. It made your blocks so much worse

[@jamesmcglough5985]

love khans!!!!

[@Aldersandfirs]

This is gonna be a month with a lot of drafting, I think :) it’s the holidays turn up

[@razlotan7504]

Brings a tear to my eye 🥲

[@leanderthal1138]

lol “you found the way”

[@mackayguyy]

The Battle Priest is the best uncommon in the format in my opinion. Crazy to see you not first pick it.

[@bevrosity]

i preferred drafting mardu or jeskai, but temur is probably 3rd best.

[@courtneywesley3523]

Epic thumbnail 🤣🤣

[@Sceptile24]

18 lands everytime

[@scottwagner3558]

I remember back when khans launched, I got stomped by someone who drafted 6 ponyback brigades. Khans draft was a blast

[@narfidy444]

My Khans drafts have been trash! No matter how much fixing, removal or tempo I have im drawing it at all the wrong times. Spent all of my cached gems losing. Ive completely lost the ability to play old formats, been spoiled by how fast and strong modern card design is

[@kaylee42900]

khans being a tri color limited set with tri-lands AND morphs was an act of genius. 2 color, 3 color and 5 color were all archetypes with their own advantages and disadvantages. So great. I think the only negative I can say is that black has pretty horrid creatures overall compared to the other colors making Sultai kinda meh as a result.

[@t-dogn6171]

Nice

[@MrDavidpopo]

Best draft format ever

[@littlehill12]

The abzan deck that you got passed would have been bonkers. Also not first picking tbe best uncommon in the format that is only 1 color is actually insane

[@mehassharpie]

I can't figure out this khans limited at all. I've been playing specifically only sealed. My last match my rares were all on color.. Abzan ascendancy, siege Rhino, Duneblast, splash red for butcher of the horde and STILL found a way win 0 games.

[@nekrataali]

18 lands and jam as many duals as you can. Build your deck around which dual lands you have, not what the rest of your cards are.

[@paulonavarro7095]

Truly one of the sets of all time

[@kevincorlett6138]

Goblinslide or we riot!

[@glw888]

Shuffler truther time. I've played about fifteen BO1 games in this format, and exactly two of them neither player missed an early land drop. Every time I watch videos of other people playing it, same thing. Did they program the interaction between the hand smoother and the new lands wrong?

[@fpejanovic]

no, but its an 18 land format and people know it, so the hand smoother adjusts for the average number of lands when deciding your opening 7

[@user-dy2xu3uv8k]

Proof Magic Arena rigs games? Pay close attention at the 37:30 mark.... It's almost as if he is signaling that he wants a red tap land when he could easily not draw any land or draw a regular Mountain. If there truly is any behind closed doors Shenanigans this would be directly in line with how it would go. Giving him his much-needed third color source and having him give it a subtle suggestion that he wanted it to be a tapped red source. Notice the way he says what he says, it's like he's 100% sure that he's going to be getting a red Mana source and he is hinting that he wants it to be his tapped land as an unexperienced employee might not recognize the importance of when land comes in Tapped

[@caochadttv]

Woah when in the heck did Scaldkin become bad?

[@fpejanovic]

4 mana for a 2/2 flier that sacs for 3 to deal 2 is bad.

[@caochadttv]

in modern terms yes in this format it was a top common for the izzet base decks because on the play it kills high quality morphs the turn before they flip@@fpejanovic

[@JPuree]

I played a ton of KTK back in the day and the answer is... 🌍👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀 Always has been

[@bryanlofton1469]

Good thing every pack didn’t have a land. That’s all you wanted to take today.

[@cesarramon4636]

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[@nuhis13]

Arena just makes my brain bleed

[@MXBrennan]

The fat man lip smacking, heavy breathing, and swallowing are REAL.

[@fpejanovic]

he also picks his nose but so do i. don't watch if its a problem for you lol

[@hodlsage8968]

Man, as much as I am all in for LSV drafts. I am sad to see Arena, which I can not stand. The child like animations and sound effects is the exact opposite of what MTG is... It is like calling soy milk, milk, or eating virtual food. MTG, the best card game in the history of card games, is now reduced to a kids' game with cute animated pets on the sidelines... No hate, LSV. You are my goto Vintange drafter, but Arena, yuck...

[@jakeyFTW]

You need to think less

[@souetrejeremy]

Worse about Arena is actually the community (go check the forums if you doubt it) and the existence of Bo1 (which is more like the toilets of a fast-food than the fast-food itself). Otherwise, they came a long way in terms of development.

[@juanlopesss]

Lol what a hater

[@zaneghiskhan]

Chill bro it's not that serious

[@hodlsage8968]

@jakeyFTW ? How does this even make sense ? Think less ? Hahahaahaa... No, no, my friend, it sounds like you should think more. Aerna, to me, is a cute little version of MTG with cards even made or nerfed just for Arena. Hasboro is destroying MTG, with playschool like games (Arena) and massive multi sets inside sets. There are more cards printed each year, no more block sets, and the reprints with 3 art styles is just overkill, or should I say profit generation. The 30th anniversary debacle and then the 1 of 1 ring just made me fully realize Wizards is gone, and Hasboro just wants to run the game into the ground after they drain every dollar out of our pockets... Yes, I am old school and loved the books you got with fat packs.