GE2020 political debate: Question and answer session

[@joycelee5663]

We really need this man in Parliament! Voters of Sengkang pls send Jamus Lim into Parliament! Thks!

[@kennychua9201]

I agree with that as well so this man should be in Parliament so that singapore can become more stable and fair to other people.

[@treepeenbawlz1934]

@@kennychua9201 PAP did practically nothing for Sengkang

[@badboi888]

@@kennychua9201 HAHHAA. Stable? I don't think so.

[@josephlim6934]

Good show by Jamus Lim. He knows his stuff!!!

[@kennychua9201]

@@treepeenbawlz1934 Yes i agree with that as well that why the voters need to think wisely before they vote but don't regret it after they have vote.

[@limweimengadrian3288]

No point holding such a talk where everyone had a very Iittle time to eleborate. It's irritating when the host says your time is up Your time is up Your time is up Rushing for? This concerning our future!!!

[@jirelbyu]

thats so true

[@user-ms1gf6ve7m]

Rubbish way of handling the programme. The questions and answers were interrupted before the core of the message could be delivered.

[@snchoo6037]

Exactly!

[@kingex3]

Because this is a limited time program

[@nurainiain7761]

Exactly. Time is up? We need more of these.

[@zhugeliang842]

wp is strong ppl who don’t vote him in must be blind..he is sharp

[@CCPLord]

The is the first time i see him talk, he is sharp indeed. To draw comparison, i have seen Chan Chun Sing in action before. Jamus sharpness and speed reminds me of Chan.

[@rrs2023]

He joined wrong party

[@rrs2023]

Mark my words, he will be kickout soon.

[@rrs2023]

Should have join sdp

[@zhugeliang842]

Col sdp got lesser chance wp is now strongest opposition..why u think so what’s ur view on why he should join sdp?

[@blessash7637]

Why did Vivian say that he read Jamus’ manifesto and “actually to be honest with you, we could have written it”? Vivian has the last 5 years in office and his cheap shot was that “we could have written it”? Well for the last 5 years, they failed to write it. Vivian’s statement honestly has helped to illustrate what Workers’ Party stated clearly that there is an need to deny PAP a blank cheque.

[@lynnkueh85]

I dont know why he must say this too.

[@darrellteo1269]

@@lynnkueh85 he wants to copy his homework.

[@meowmeow-uz4om]

it's a praise. PAP have the same thought as them .. just that they are focusing on other matters and not just what WP have manifested.

[@FONGSC88]

Debate that started the lost of Sengkang

[@kenneth.lim3390]

Seriously, what is the ridiculous time limit for? They need rush off for dinner or something is it? People want to hear issues being discussed and answered, not watch some game show where everything is timed. This just opens the debate up to tricks that let the person asking asks a question that can't be properly answered within the time frame. End up people watching can't even hear the full story.

[@tokking7836]

That’s the whole idea. No need to go deeper.

[@dionchua2227]

Have you not watched a debate?

[@1ZZFE]

That's the more reason why we should get the PAP down and more Oppositions in for a more open and progressive and democratic Singapore society!

[@XDLeadingLady]

Lol you clearly dont know what is a debate. And also if u want to hear issues being discussed in depth thats called parliament meeting.

[@gparamaeswary7276]

School debate. Got timing🤣

[@abdulkarimmohamedghouse5422]

Jamus, you are the one who understand the actual issues facing Singapore, for example Seniors still working as gardeners, cleaner, drivers, Security (some can't even walk properly ) etc. Jamus I hope you will be elected to see and question the ruling government.👍👍👍

[@vembayanselvaraju8371]

Seniors working as cleaners or gardeners do not vote for PAP.....Workers Party will be doing a good job if they can help these seniors with better jobs, pay them higher

[@munic3476]

?????? It is easy to pin point. Solution?

[@vembayanselvaraju8371]

@@munic3476 don't worry these guys will come up with solutions...

[@BeachBoi1000]

Hire seniors as directors lor

[@1ZZFE]

At times like this, I'm so happy to see candidate like Jamus Jerome Lim of the WP to come into Singapore politicals. We need talents like him!!

[@zhugeliang842]

ok what all parties sit down and talk nicely no fight like taiwan parliament what..so we need more oppositions to go in to help us speak up!!! it’s totally healthy for all parties to sit down and discuss best solutions for sg..chee is getting matured

[@kelele]

I totally agree. Debating is NOT equivalent to arguing! Healthy debates from all parties are necessary in politics

[@zhugeliang842]

kelele i believed parties can all come together discuss and work better plans for sg..one party rule will destroy the whole system..multi parties government will be gd for sg future next 10 years..if wp do well they can take over pap in 10 years..

[@MrLEECHINSOON]

Speak only, right? NCMP fits the role. Opposition can go Parliament to be NCMP.

[@MrLEECHINSOON]

@Tan Tan Ah Chee, definitely score "high"..look at his hitting under the belt at Murali. Murali family affair about his son, he highlights for what? He is rejoicing at Murali unfortunate events. Do we need such a despicable Ah Chee in the Parliament? You decide

[@megalaikannairam8319]

@@MrLEECHINSOON he spoke the truth Pap also has done such to opposition,,,

[@Secretspy88]

This debate really warms the cockles of my heart

[@ritachong4076]

Yes he is 👍

[@misoshiru6969]

Dr Vivian accuses Dr Chee of taking cheap shots but quotes a Factually article that was published less than an hour before the debate. Now that is what I would call a cheap shot.

[@megalaikannairam8319]

Idiot pappy

[@eyeswideshut8110]

That's why I am honestly glad that he is our Foreign Minister dealing with all those International monsters out there.

[@LKJSPH]

*SINGAPORE SHOULD PLAN FOR POPULATION OF 10 MILLION* www.businesstimes.com.sg/top-stories/singapore-should-plan-for-population-of-10m *'On the projected population of 6.9 million by 2030, set out in the Government's 2013 Population White Paper, Mr Heng said the number goes beyond how densely populated Singapore would be.* The social space is as important. Singapore's population density is not excessive, he said, noting that other cities are a lot more crowded in terms of liveable space. *He cited former chief planner Liu Thai Ker, who said in 2014 that Singapore should plan for 10 million people for it to remain sustainable in the long term.'* www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng

[@jameslim6865]

PAP is the largest contributor to falsehood in Singapore.

[@duckpotatoes]

@@LKJSPH but that wasn't said by heng swee keat

[@bobbyobby1252]

90 seconds Ain’t enough to roast a chicken. If you get what I mean

[@annemarie6515]

Hahhahahha

[@yongwingsun5598]

Awesome

[@ajbayu68]

Well done Dr Jamus, Dr Chee,,, u guys are really impressive😊😊😊

[@sherwinh1661]

This is a very healthy debate. such a refreshing session. We wish to see this happen in parliament too. Jamus was well spoken and smart

[@SamueITan]

It was really crazy watching this over and over again and realizing how Jamus, despite the lower time limit, was able to eloquently answers all topics and questions he can without fumbling.

[@crux33]

Sadly is he all flash and hype, so far all these year he is nothing impressive at all

[@asiacuisine4869]

Vivian Bala. Please answer your YOG and Indoor stadium over-budget. Where is meritocracy?!?

[@CarlJenkinson3]

You can see how much respect Vivian had for Jamus. It's almost like he is trying to say WP took everything PAP had an improved it.

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

ONe is a professor in economics , the other is .....

[@jeremychan609]

no it is not respect. It is political play. Dr V is saying "WP's manifesto is not much different from PAP" - subtly inviting voters to vote PAP instead. I shall say that both parties are very different in the form of the origin, intent and execution of these policies. i.e. the heart

[@CarlJenkinson3]

@@jeremychan609 the same can apply. To vote for wp whose policies are people centric. Works both ways

[@Aquaandplants]

Greatly impressed by DR Lim. Well done

[@chewdesmond5875]

If Lim Tean were also present, he would have grilled someone

[@gala1684]

@@chewdesmond5875 Lim Tean too aggressive and he only wants to attack but not provide reasonable solutions.

[@chewdesmond5875]

@@gala1684 I would named him the challenger.

[@justintimeleave1360]

I don't understand why we must squeeze everything and give so little time for each candidate. Is this jeopardy? We have the all the time for this format but we have to shorten everything into sound bites? Learn from the mistakes of the west please.

[@SinSnxpes]

do you even know how debates work

[@vembayanselvaraju8371]

The purpose is to test the politician...see whether they can explain well, whether they can put across their views within a short time...

[@SinSnxpes]

vembayan selvaraju yep, also so that politicans wont beat around the bush.

[@HKspurs10]

yah i agree. should have more primetime televised debates like this.

[@thedxdydz]

This debate just shows how skewed our institution is towards the incumbent . 3x more speaking time than every opposition member ? Really? The fact that Jamus was able to communicate everything he needed and make such an impact in so limited time is even more impressive.

[@MrLEECHINSOON]

PAP, one vs three Opposition, you called it skew towards the incumbent.. LOL

[@Failtacularification]

@@MrLEECHINSOON Whatever you're high on, it seems to be working.

[@eduardoking8402]

How is that so? Everyone has about 1 min to ask a question and about 1.5 mins to answer it. Total time might overall be more for Dr Balakrishnan just because he is being queried by all 3 opposition members and he had to reply to all 3 of them. Perhaps the CNA should also have the opposition parties question each other to even out the total time, and make you happy. But I am not sure the opposition members would like that, as they will be squaring off each other, not just the incumbent. The approach CNA has taken in fact favours the opposition, as it does not allow the opposition to query each others policies.

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

@@MrLEECHINSOON Skew in the sense he has more time and the final say. In any debate , the one who has the final say has the advantage. Is that not skewed?

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

@@eduardoking8402 That's one point of view. Why can't everyone get the same questions and equal time for replies. That's part 1 . Then they can have a part where they can have a free debate with the moderator apportioning time for that. If you watched the American presidency primaries and election, all candidates have fair amount of time. Why can't we have it too?

[@gohkimteck4097]

Let's stand together and be competitive for those age 40 and above like you Dr Vivian. I have already taken 40 percent pay cut to be able to survive, as a good leader, please lead by example.

[@benadebiz]

It's a interesting debate, given 1.30min for each, it's totally insufficient. Not sure who and why its being defined such timing.

[@JL-sw3sb]

The show must end on time before viewers switch channel.

[@lynnkueh85]

Exactly. This is not a contest. This is talking about our future. Why have a set timing?

[@wongngeeyong7077]

Wow! Well done Jamus Lim! You really KO PAP

[@LonganLee]

Balla being a foreign minister, used the phrase "people like you" to describe Dr Chee. And the tonality he used to say that. We can see what is his level of statesmanship.

[@Emsyaz]

Very unprofessional of Bala to use such terms.

[@albertwongwong9806]

Great observations..."ppl like you"

[@LonganLee]

@@Emsyaz voters still gave mandate to him

[@Emsyaz]

@@LonganLee they are voters who vote blindly.

[@kchoo1118]

Vivian: "It's quite (a) right question, efficacy, and we need to measure outcomes. Now, let's talk about productivity...." I read between and inside the letters also cant find the answer. 🤔 🧐 🤨

[@eloquentsilence]

The answer is the same as the "East Coast plan" 😬😷

[@jaredjustin7880]

@@eloquentsilence 😂😂😂

[@yr1183]

Totally, where is the answer? My god

[@grace-dn7zw]

Wish there would be rebuttals for this

[@choonieyen]

Eloquent silence we have a plan for the east coast -HSK but he doesn’t know what to say lol

[@officialzacadammorrison]

That WP guy. i love him. No homo. HAHAHA

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

His name is Jamus from WP. Tell all your friends in Sengkang GRC

[@officialzacadammorrison]

@@talkcocklikesingsongYes! If I'm in Sengkang, the guy got my vote. Need ppl like him in parliament in a complex world

[@leongh131]

Where is Vivian’s answer to Jamus’ question of policy efficacy? It was not a question about how the policy was funded.

[@princeedwardn319]

yes, the building up to that answer is too long, i will want to know the answer as well. that measure if PAP is capable enough to lead the country alone without other party, but guess we wont hear about it again unless Jamus or WP able to bring that up in Parliament again.

[@John-el5sv]

Yes... Good question, 1. Stimulus package is from reserves 2. Let me tell you how come we have reserves 3. Yes efficacy needs to be measured. 4. How is Singapore built upon, productivity wise, high tech and investment will not produce the same efficacy.... Hmm... I thought Jamus was asking about the efficacy of the stimulus packages? Like do they produce the intended results? But why is it that Vivian didn't seem to know the direct answer, but instead skirt around the question? In fact, what is their intended result of the 4 stimulus packages? What is their goal in no uncertain means? So far all we know is that those stimulus packages protect jobs, but how many and what kinds of jobs are they supposed to protect? If we don't have a goal when enacting a plan, then how do we know if the plans are successful? It's easy to throw money to solve a problem, but if it isn't a long term solution then it's like paying ransom to unlock a ransomware. It never ends, but you have to keep paying in order to keep things going.

[@markfish1113]

@@John-el5sv Heng swee keat miscalculated the stimulus packages as some companies return the money even. This is 1 of the reason he stepped down. Their over emphasis on capital and giving too much to the companies instead of people.

[@allentan2301]

It's not fair saying dr chee landed a cheap shot. Every local knows about the 10million target, isnt it. If it's not from the G, i really dont know who the rumour mongers are.

[@Sparklynn69]

Just typical propaganda by the PAP

[@kevinlee4820]

i don't buy Vivian's story that we won't get to 10M. Esp when he said we won't even get to 6.9M.

[@Meownekox3]

Probably smoke too much weed that day HAHAHAHA

[@faith8742]

the population rate is actually going up quite slow for Singapore if you would look at statistics so I myself don't think that we would get to 10M or 6.9M

[@xxxsugoitacion]

can always add extra 4 million foreigners

[@lwr7751]

@@xxxsugoitacion gg then this one not singapore liao haissss

[@markfish1113]

@@faith8742 lol already 6 million, they will hit 6.9 in 2030. Dr chee always hit the bullseye, what he says will happen 20 yrs later and it tend to be unthinkable now.

[@aloysius260500]

In such an unfair debate setup , the opposition candidates all performed really well. Hope to see them in parliament !

[@narutolyy10]

Remmy Gaming really unfair 3 against 1, 3 brains against 1 brain, but Vivian Balakrishnan is good.

[@faith8742]

I don't really get why people are hating on Vivian Balakrishnan but after watching this, I am proud he is our foreign minister and his rebuttals are pretty well-spoken. I am glad someone who is able to combat such questions impromptu in such an elegant way is representing our country. A lot of people are saying he is talking nonsense and stuff like that but I am sure the government knows their statistics much more than all of us and the government wants the best for the locals. I do think Jamus's reply was great and enlightening too!

[@ashunknown9728]

Lol

[@ashunknown9728]

Nice joke

[@bobafett5757]

I wish it was Lawrence Wong to answer all those questions and not Dr Vivian who is a Foreign Minister ... Want to see Dr Chee question Lawrence on HDB 99 years lease.

[@somerslim25]

if PAP zone in on someone ; you know who they dont want to debate in Parliament

[@kiangeephua3]

After listening to Dr Balakrishna's views .. it is clear that PAP does not really look into the livelihood of the poor n underprivileged, not enough help are given to this group of poor people .. look at the card boards pickers, old men n haggard women clearing plates in every hawkers centres. Our PMETs become security guards, grab drivers, delivery men n hawkers. How can we called ourselves 1st world country? PAP how you run this nation? Why it has become like this, see for yourself PAPies.

[@meowmeow-uz4om]

Yes ! we should not let the poor or elderly to do security guards, grab drivers, delivery men n hawkers, clear plates. all these can be done by their children or grandchildren !

[@chewdesmond5875]

Whenever u can't answer a question and u r at a unfavorable position, just claimed the opponent is creating falsehood from FACTS! Still hadn't been able to get an answer for the justification to over budget YOG sgp.

[@gala1684]

Take cover.....there is no falsehood at all to what Dr Chee said.

[@yapnyukling9326]

Doctor Chee is so talented!

[@KaiJ22]

PAP starting to shake

[@zachz6320]

Balakrishnan did not answer Jamus׳ question at all. Has the pap measured efficacy? And how? 😒

[@travel6968]

because PAP has no efficacy at all.

[@xiuzhen1897]

It is easy to spot others not to answer. If u have better opinion to increase the efficacy, please share for the benefits of all.

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

Evade the issue . That's the politician talking

[@annamariana8140]

@@xiuzhen1897what a stupid request, we are not Vivian seat, we don't choose to be leaders n being paid highly..

[@xiuzhen1897]

@@annamariana8140 Thanks for your feedback. Are you mean my suggestion is stupid? When you can say people stupid, it means you are clever, in general. If you really have any constructive feedback good for the nation and Spore, please voice out. Pls dont belittle yourself.

[@jeremywong2429]

Dr VB: Are you aware that almost 60% workforce are in PMET jobs? Are you aware for every one foreign work pass holder, there are 7 locals? Response: Are you aware Dr VB, that your Government employment statistics do not make distinction between Singaporeans and PR?? So when you say 7 locals, how many of those are true blue Singaporeans, PRs, or New Citizens? Many have been asking for the breakdown but the Gov has so far declined to provide. So that's why this question keep popping up every now and then. What you say doesn't match what people see... It doesn't pass the "smell test".

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

It's a good point . Only citizens get to vote . PRs don't. The government should tell people the breakdown of "Locals" .

[@gabrielkok9208]

oh ho ho CECA, pappies infamous pet project.

[@flirtatiousdisses]

Hahahaha even the expats here call themselves locals

[@ibrahimmalik3451]

Jamus Lim have in-depth knowledge of the ply of lower income earners and articulated very well in the debate👍👍👍

[@AggronAaron]

LOL when met with an important question, all they do is avoid it and claim it to be false. I don't understand how people think that voting PAP is a good idea.

[@michaellee3314]

Never show your emotion openly against a particular candidate. VB lost his cool. He lost to Dr. Chee.

[@JCTPing88]

Lol. It's apparent Dr chee interrupted Dr VBs answer. Dr chee lost his cool

[@kelvinpang438]

@@JCTPing88 That's because VB claimed that 10m is false when it isn't. www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng

[@JCTPing88]

@@kelvinpang438 it was clearly a reference to topic about density. Clearly Not a statement out of HSK mouth.

[@operation10]

Both of them lost their cool

[@paparoti4006]

The pap candidate knew the questions very much earlier than the other 3 candidates.

[@damlwt6657]

Few days back PSP did share with the media why must submit the script 48 hours early, definitely can answer all questions ask him immdedialy they will answer but keep on repeat the same reply or rounding here n there to waste time or make the person who ask this question angry..

[@alexzzz163]

A proficient debtor will have a set of questions ready. His answers are supported by experience and facts

[@1982vergil]

0:40 He is Right! (skillful and playing with words) For every foreign work pass holder in PMETs jobs, there're 7 locals in PMETs jobs Locals = Singaporeans or PRs or New Citizens Because employee under these categories don't need a work pass😊

[@jambulrizal5531]

what a joke😏

[@ashunknown9728]

@@jambulrizal5531 joke🤗 lol

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

Why are PRs categorized as locals? CAn a PR vote? Why can't the figures show only citizens?

[@eyeswideshut8110]

PMET is a nonsensical category to start off. The salary ranges differ by 10X or more. How is this a meaningful category? This is BS to confuse and hide behind big numbers. Each P or M loss to a foreigner could range from $100K to $300K multiply by tens of thousands...and their family members..you get the picture.

[@dianawongdianawong3401]

The govt is elected by the citizens and rightly should look after its citizens first, especially when there is no umemployment welfare in Sg. As Mr Yuen said there are 100,000 unemployed PMETS. He correctly said that the govt should repatriate 100,000 Foreign PMETS. Only if there are excess jobs then only they can be offered to foreigners. Otherwise how do all the unemployed PMETS feed their families? What is the govt answer? There is no relevance between work permit holders to local PMETS. 60% local PMETS is not good enough.

[@widayanahanafi5024]

Dr Jamus Lim 👍🏼 and I realised he has 4 masters ... wahh

[@DevDev-gb6sw]

From top universities

[@Philson]

My GRC one. Definitely gets my vote.

[@JSCJL]

And yet only came back to Singapore recently.

[@joketosociety766]

JSCJL ?

[@mikegan9382]

I like him leh. He sounds really intelligent and firm

[@jessiejames7492]

must remember that name. jamus lim ! interesting . . brilliant. i remembr years ago vivian balakrishnan was in the NATIONAL UNIVERSITY debate in the 70s? my father used to make us watch it on tv. he used to say' watch ! youll learn something. '' my father said ' that balakrishnan guy will go far. his words came true. I hope mr jamus will go far... he already has i am sure. !

[@RJ-kb1sr]

V totally lost it with Chee, my say is don’t get emotional

[@snchoo6037]

The moderator is damn annoying. He keeps cutting their conversation. The time for speaking is too short. It's stupid to have a debate but not allow enough time for speaking

[@snchoo6037]

@1PieceofLuffy yeah i guess

[@iamblackboss]

Sn Choo it must happen and it does happen in all debates he must interrupt

[@desaturated6049]

Nah Chee did not even answering the question. you may not like PAP, but don't be blinded by the angst and automatically think what Chee say is right. His policy is indeed flawed.

[@crabosity]

1PieceofLuffy wow MediaCorp cannot end few minutes later? You think got that much people waiting for the 9pm drama ah

[@freddielow4150]

Dr. Balakrishnan, the problem arises when we don't know how much reserves we have? Until then, the government can say anything but there is no way to verify. That's authoritarian and autocratic; the rulers say and the people have to accept.....

[@chrispycreme9545]

How is that authoritarian?

[@chrispycreme9545]

Authoritarian rule is to enforce absolute obedience or they would use draconian punishments on you. Normally in dictatorships where the political opponents would be sent to prisons or assassinated. They do not allow you to think differently and will subject the citizens to extreme re-education and propaganda. The citizens will become mindless drones. Not telling people how much reserves is not authoritarian. Autocracy is basically a supreme power or heard of state that rules by itself and doesn’t allow their citizens to vote. How can a single MP be an autocrat when we are literally in a election? Don’t use words that you don’t even know the meaning of. It really makes you look like a fool.

[@zacyan2893]

I hope you give more time to each of them 😊

[@farrahkong1998]

The idea of 10 million population has been causing anxiety among many. Chee just brings it up on our behalf and is told off so harshly. Sorry for him.

[@dariuslee9333]

He brings up a clear falsehood. Where does your anxiety come from? No one ever said that Singapore will have 10 million population. Worried over nothing? This Chee lying out of his ass, deserves to be called out and shut down

[@XDLeadingLady]

Where does this anxiety come from? The 10 million population planning has never ever been said or reported by anyone other than his party. Anything close to it is merely the urban planning of 10 million to create enough space in hundred of years to come. I think your anxiety stems from listening to falsehoods by Chee. 🥴

[@xJeremypspx]

Ng Ng so you’re saying they’re planning to create space for 10m for absolutely no reason at all? Yes, they don’t have a target on how much the population should be, but having a 10m urban development plan shows clear intentions of bringing in foreigners to fill the population gap. Also, Dr Chee simply quoted the article of “toying” with the idea of increasing population to 10m and asked for clarification if this would really be the case, so how is there any falsehoods here?

[@markfish1113]

@@XDLeadingLady it wont be 100-yrs, sg has hit 6m, on the way to 6.9 in 2030. By 2050 is 10 million.

[@audreychoong7323]

Jamus Lim is really eloquent. He is a good debater.

[@chengkokkay2639]

I am a degree holder, at 64 year old .I tested out the market by applying PMT jobs, engineering and even McDonald service crew. The market don’t want us. They rather employed Malaysian, and other foreigner . Why don’t give Singaporean to take up the job.The government please tell us what is happening now. You can call me, I can show you what I had applied. This is the truth nothing but the truth.

[@lulunana4737]

To be honest, PMET jobs want younger ppl that can grow and stay with the organization. You can work as a consultant actually.

[@anguslow5684]

I heard PAP's prata quite nice to eat, don't know if yall tried it already.

[@fgg5978]

Thier twists n turns dispened ice cream also very good.

[@KrishnasDevotionHub]

This warms the cockles of my heart

[@leelingchong7111]

"No. The Government has not proposed, planned nor targeted for Singapore to increase its population to 10 million. ... At that update, the Government said that given recent trends, Singapore's total population is likely to be significantly below 6.9 million by 2030. This outlook remains valid today." Dated 1st July 2020. To all my fellow Singaporeans please don't be too happy as the outlook (quoted from last statement:This outlook remains valid today.) can change anytime. So what can we and should we do about this? Let's think harder.

[@markfish1113]

its already 6m as of 2024, they will hit 6.9 in 2030 and churn out another white paper of 10m.

[@limjin5200]

Debate til call Dr chee a cheap shot lol... Don't expect everyone to adapt to your sweet talk. Vb u lost it man.

[@牙海-d2c]

Never heard about a false statement can win sia

[@kelvinpang438]

@@牙海-d2c www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng

[@sgfuture9472]

Make your Votes count! For the People, for the Country, you Deserve Better! 4Y1N!

[@DevDev-gb6sw]

I remember 10 million by HSK

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng

[@kenneth.lim3390]

Jamus Lim👍👍👍👍👍

[@johnnyhs_ngnng5554]

Mr Lim Wai Meng I agree & support what you said. Such conditions. Giving opposition hardly enough times to count from 1 to 90 . This is ridiculous while PAP plenty of times.

[@TerenceLim121]

Balakrishnan taking cheap shots at Dr. Chee Soon Juan. He doesn’t know what Heng Swee Kiat said during that interview.

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sporeans-must-remain-open-to-foreigners-says-heng

[@davekoh6272]

Jamus 👍

[@zhizian]

Well said Jamus Lim. It’s not about re-skill. It’s about fair wage. If a new degree holder can’t even make higher income than a taxi driver or private hired per hour base on hours put in to work.

[@asurajah6517]

I respect the oppos feedback and questions. I believe this is unprecidented Q & A. especially Dr vivian is able to answer deliberately with cool manner. I hope he is capable to be elected as a next PM in future. Cool guy with high calibre of knowledge.🙏 SHALOM. he always have his high respect and best attitude.

[@LonganLee]

Can any Singapore university produce a Jamus ? Clearly he got his higher learning outside Singapore ?

[@user-ib2nv2ht4f]

Singapore University is capable of producing 100% purely intelligent Singaporeans Best Sons and Daughters!. If you have lived in the US you would know, Singaporeans and Japanese students are sought after in any US University. Jamus is unique on his own. He let himself be Americanized equally when he speak there is American accent. I quite admired his intelligence and bravado but yet to learn if his Americanized is Conservative Republican or Democrat. Time will tell.

[@LonganLee]

@@user-ib2nv2ht4f You still don't get it. Jamus outshines. Whatever you say also no use. You cannot debunk the Truth. Education results is all you know. That's why I said what I said. Singapore education is primarily rote learning or different than American standard. SG is good for scoring exams but where is the wisdom? Jamus is wisdom. How many SG doctors stepped forward to say No to the Mask advisory? Only 4 . So the rest of the doctors, where is their moral courage?

[@LonganLee]

@@user-ib2nv2ht4f Well I never said what you alleged. Likewise, how do you prove what you claim?

[@arrowstheorem1881]

Jamus seems to have outclassed PAP Bala who has lots of experience. I guess Genius outclass experience and age

[@garynguyen8977]

Talk intellectually, act responsibly & discuss peacefully. 👍. Putting a time limit in the ask/answer session is a smart moves to save face for all party involved. Bala & Lim can talk smoothly. Lim may bcome a rising ⭐.

[@jolabulabu8702]

It’s time to change!!! From backstabbing to front stabbing!!!!

[@JL-sw3sb]

I hope to see people like Francis Yuen and Jamus Lim in parliament. Personally, I like Mr. Jamus Lim. He is eloquent and confident but he a bit on the "atas" kind, thus not sure if he can relate to all level of people at neighborhood or can he "tahan" meeting people of all walks.

[@f9000k]

Well ..yeah I agree we hope to see them in parliament too ... you said - he (Jamus) a bit on the ‘atas “ = higher class... I think we shd also ask ourselves - if we can give votes to the ‘atas’ candidate of the incumbent ... why can’t we have “atas” alternative voice for the opposing side? Surely We need opposition with class right ? Not an “atas” someone who keeps rambling about “East Coast plant 🌱 ...“ 🤣

[@kingofegypt63]

Jamus easily put Vivian in his pocket. Jamus u r outstanding! Make sure you hit hard the pap the tough questions. We Singaporean deserve the rights what the government is hiding from us.

[@siaboonleong]

Dr Vivian are u aware everywhere I go for work FT are 70 percent. While locals are not ? Look at hospital and schools how many are our own

[@jambulrizal5531]

totally agree with u

[@FizRml]

@vincent Ng idiot boy

[@Lin-xp8dc]

You need to think hard about how many locals are willing to take up those jobs in hospitals and schools before speaking. You don't seem very aware LOL

[@travel6968]

@@Lin-xp8dc might as well replace ministers with foreigners oh I'm sure alot people waiting for this dictatorship position.

[@megalaikannairam8319]

@vincent Ng open your eyes and dont be selfish pig...

[@badboi888]

I agreed with Dr Balakrishnan on the sgunited temp jobs. It is jobs not career, those people have to upgrade themselves to get a long-lasting career.

[@jimw8615]

Jamus Lim must go into the parliament. Singaporean really need to learn to see the Big picture. Stop all the 5ct10ct issues. Sigh... why do I think the majority will still not step up, speak up tis time round. Sigh again...

[@Cazzero]

15 mins not wasted. This is how debate should be

[@skycityicw824]

PAP-Pay And Pay WP-Why Pay? SDP-Stop Don’t Pay PV- Please Voice-up PPP- Please Prevent Paying NSP- Never! Stop Paying RP- Refrain Paying SPP- Stop People Paying SDA- Stop Don’t Agree RDU- Refrain/Don’t Pay(Union)

[@sharonjohn9430]

Why is a foreign minister in this panel?? 🧐 Instead The home minister or PM should be there.

[@mark-yf8sm]

I agree by right DPM should be here to answer the questions as well.

[@bobafett5757]

Agree ... it should be Lawrence Wong to answer all those questions cos waiting for Dr Chee to grill him on 99 years lease.

[@AmreshTheKumar]

Dr Vivian Balakrishnan, 2010 YOG Legend!

[@JL-sw3sb]

I hope to see people like Francis Yuen and Jamus Lim in parliament. Personally, I like Mr. Jamus Lim. He is eloquent and confident but he a bit on the "atas" kind, thus not sure if he can relate to all level of people at neighborhood or can he "takan" meeting people of all walks.

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

U mean VB not atas meh?

[@benashertan5162]

Need to wait for all those public reviews of Jamus just like it did for some of the other candidates

[@worldlife9834]

Xenophobia, racism and protectionism in Singapore. I don't see racial diversity in Singapore.

[@Olly07]

Who is the interviewer? He is fair with the time given.

[@eyeswideshut8110]

I'm always confused with data like 60,000 foreigners have lost their jobs. Which payscale? We lost tens of thousands of good paying PMET jobs, dont compare orange to Ba-long-long pls.

[@janelau7297]

Talking about jobs and jobs, pls look into the current situation. More companies are taking in contract worker and not employees to avoid all the welfare that they suppose to provide to a full time employee. This is unfair to our citizens. PAP, are you checking on this, or are you allowing that to happen??

[@muralikrishnan4104]

the WP candidates - credible, honest, transparent, loyal singaporean, honest, - they r here to upgrade ppl's lives. thats is the bottom line. lets give our support.

[@farrellwolf2498]

This is not a chess competition why rush? PAP owns the mediacorp. It’s “controlled opposition” that’s what I think this debate is all about..

[@meowmeow-uz4om]

yes ! PAP owns mcdonald, 711, bossini and Watson too !! they control the price .. why so expensive !

[@cliveyeo3798]

Well done gentlemen. Debates on the issues on our national.

[@corebry2936]

quite limited time allocated. 1 min alr used up in preamble and hedging of answers before the actual meat of the answer is presented

[@Theonigir8]

Jamus for parliament!!!

[@noorulameen804]

I skipped listening to the man-in-white. I only paid attention to the other 3!

[@anty2312]

Y Vivian keep on debate on d 10million population bUt y never debate on Chee that their (pAp) pays r $100k or more a month!? Enlighten me pls ....

[@kangtee4444]

$100 billions Care and Support budget with $52 billions from Reserves. This means $48 billions are surpluses from current term (4 years so far). Vivian mentioned that GST revenues are $11 billions (per year).. If GST is abolished, there will still be surpluses every year. That means GST revenues are PURE SURPLUSES. A quarter (1/4) of GST revenue collected is more than enough to give $500 per month to each senior citizens above 65 as proposed by Dr Chee to enable these senior citizens live decently. The current Silver Support of $450 per quarter for senior citizens above 65 and only those whose past CPF contributions less than $70 thousands is really a SHAME. This works out to $150 per month or $5 a day. Ask PAP MPs to try to live on $5 per day. At $50 thousands a month, they are already complaining that they have supported .......

[@aliciatung5059]

BIG FAN OF PROF JAMUS LIM HERE!!!

[@limvincentgabriel7479]

fanastic EQ Vivian sir , u got the game...thumbs UP ; U have the confidence and humility to get things done.

[@rinajesse9851]

Candidate Lim Tean reminds us of late JB Jeyaretnam - bravery. If he's voted in - he will sparks the whole parliament!! - challenging! Like this statement by Jamus Lim - "DON'T OPPOSE FOR THE SAKE OF OPPOSING. IF IDEAS ARE GOOD SHD BE SUPPORTED". Anyway PAP is already the govt - People hope more opposition parties to represent people's voices . Currently not enough.

[@tamshanon8917]

Why can’t pap answer to the question without throwing in so much smoke screens to mask the actual context which we are waiting to hear ?

[@f9000k]

Coz when they don’t have answers ... so they apply the technique - if you can’t convince them u confuse them ... 🤣

[@kennychua9201]

Actually government help singaporeans people alot but i think singaporeans people take government for granted so they should learn how to appreciate what government help them not just keep on complaining.

[@kennychua9201]

@@lt5912 So you can ask singaporean people are they willing to work long and tough hours jobs, then i can tell you none singaporeans people want to work that kind of job, that why singapore government hire foreigners to work on that kind of jobs, so i think singaporean people should appreciate and feel content what the government have help and provide them. I think singapore government really help and fork out alot to help singaporeans people so those people should vote wisely. Also singaporean people dont take government for granted.

[@kennychua9201]

@@lt5912 Even though the employers pay more to their worker can you promise that they will done a nice job and not just keep on take their boss for granted. Seem you have so many unhappiness things then you can vote for oppo parties. Because my views are that singaporean people should learn how to appreciate and content what government help and provide them. Not take governement for granted Plus not government want to hire foreigner to work just that singaporean people not willing to work that kind of jobs that why they keep saying the boss pay them less but not more also i am sure that if you have talent then the boss sure will pay you more in that jobs.

[@kennychua9201]

@Lawrence w0nq For example government can give back all the money to the tax payers peoples but once the people use all their money already then they still will go back to the government ask them for help Then i think in the end singapore will ended up no money like their foreign countries is that what you want to see it.

[@yr1183]

To Vivian's "maintain a stable core that can reproduce" - that you are talking about the birth rate problem. And your solution is to keep bring foreigners in? For God's sake, you haven't even define the problem right. To solve the birth rate problem, you should address "cost of bringing up the kids", choices of women work arrangement after maternity leave, and full time house wives' retirement scheme. For a stay home mum, I have to wait for my husband or children to top up my cpf while spending all the energy raising children. If maintain the population is an issue of national importance, why is women's sacrifices not being recognised financially by the country? At least, you should give these moms a state pension.

[@aidanseow6899]

Exactly, think you analyst issues better than most of our MPs who earn millions but still unable to solve current issues. We have enter 2020, if we dont resolve these issues quickly our core will erode slowly and SG income gap between classes will get wider and wider.

[@mohdabmalekmdshah1911]

A fruitful discussion truly.

[@weijieai2251]

I have lost my job when those so-called 'foreign talent' started coming-in, and have not been able to find a decent job ever since.

[@mikegan9382]

Be cheap like them, that's what I did. When the indians come in first - I value add by being bilingual and usually HQ in US loves Singaporeans and if u demand the same pay as them usually you have an advantage. I learn from the Indian's their technical skills and I prove myself to be an effective project manager being having a passport that can travel almost anywhere and able to manage project in most Asian cities. When China invaders came, I did the same and progress and survived. Now with my rich resume and experience, I survived various retrenchment. One of my boss ever ask me where should he place me in a project, I told him I am a survivor, u put me anywhere I will succeed. Sun does not shine everyday, Vivian was right when he says we must save for rainy days. Always always be willing to do beyond what others does - u will succeed.

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

U didn't listen to PAP? They ask u to go for courses . They have funds for that.

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

@@mikegan9382 It's good that u are nimble and versatile to adapt. Not everyone is as adaptable as you. I think as a government for the people, it's a moral duty to look after your people.

[@eyeswideshut8110]

You should "Upskill to Downgrade". That's the new concept. Please embrace it 🥴

[@gw002]

It just means you lack the necessary skills or talents and did not bother upgrading yourself. Continue sitting there and whining about your plight instead of actually doing anything about it

[@jameslim6865]

Question and answer? More like many questions for the PAP, but no answer. Only 1 thing is certain, 9% GST if you vote for the PAP.

[@freddielow4150]

Dr. Balakrishnan, for a start, revoke the treaty that gives Indian nationals total access to employment in Singapore that is the brainchild of DPM Heng, What do others have that we cannot train our own Singaporeans in？

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

They are cheaper and more hardworking mah.

[@limken5373]

@@talkcocklikesingsong that Ramash , remember him ?got 60,000 salary a month , bought a condo and show off to the security, cheap?

[@spencerlim9011]

What debate was this, break here break there, might as well dont debate and put the Q&A on writing to save time. Sigh.......

[@dianawongdianawong3401]

This is a lousy debate, questions raised but not fully answered or unanswered because of time constraints. Should limit 1 question and 1 full answer.