CHAOS - Huge Argument Between Shivambu And Helen Suzman Foundation

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Parliament of South Africa - “To represent the people, and to ensure government by the people in fulfilling our constitutional functions of passing laws and overseeing executive action”. Watch HUGE argument between Floyd Shivambu and the Helen Suzman Foundation in Parliament during CONSTITUTIONAL REVIEW COMMITTEE sitting. *****
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[@theblackmessiah2050]

I enjoy your channel. Best of luck.

[@dawiemeyer1630]

Shame these white leftist had a harsh contact with black reality

[@llllllblodllllll]

Me too. I hope more people see and recognize that there are millions of real people suffering and they are talking nonsense. They should all be kicked out and replaced by people who actually care to alleviate the suffering that is being experienced by more and more people everyday. Replace them with people who aren't going to take home millions and millions let alone steal from the people on top of that, and who aren't going to try to push ideas that will obviously cause vastly more suffering and poverty and famine and sickness and death.

[@giftsiphohlomuka3207]

It is good, people can judge for themselves whether the EFF is a bunch of populists or are for real. Thank you!

[@godfrey6946]

Floyd Shibambu is way ahead of his time, such a real African Lion. We shall forever be grateful for the EFF and what they stand for. Thank you EFF

[@KWTxrulz]

He is a comedian. TBH I am from Kuwait. My friends and I see him for fun. Shibambu is A comedian. Never thought his supporters can write in English. I thought he and who follow him only speak gibberish

[@francoisknoesen2135]

Love the speaker, and the lady in red seems to have a personality larger than life, nice to watch our young democracy in action!

[@minniesihlobo5054]

I like this chairman he's so calm and reasonable

[@farida7777777]

God bless his soul.

[@sizwedungulu8845]

minnie entle sihlobo hi gal

[@keithmudzengerere6679]

I agree with u my leader. He'ss also fair.

[@fuckingSickOfCreepyG]

Finally a competent chairman??

[@someguy007]

One that can SEE, The Truth?

[@kassimmonds]

@@someguy007 rather one that is fair and allows equality of opinion. The events in the cause of this clip were ops normal for the degredation of parliament. But what Im taking away was that their is finally a chair that controls the arguements equally

[@someguy007]

+Keith Simmonds I get it.

[@juliuz3695]

@@someguy007 that man is blind from the looks 😁 blinded by aparheid

[@lesolk]

Racism was exposed here 😂😂 EFF our last hope. ❤

[@precieuxolivier6890]

The chair is neutral and is good man! What is his name?

[@ringoringo3291]

Don't mind him.... he's one of them also!!!

[@Jr-sf3vm]

Stevie Wonder

[@precieuxolivier6890]

@@Jr-sf3vm non Ray Charles

[@makatendekashemutasah8525]

@@Jr-sf3vm 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ramekgwedanieltjikila1534]

@@Jr-sf3vm 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thabangmahlangu1484]

The chair is objective, I like him.

[@thabangmahlangu1484]

No he is not, he is doing his job. That is how the chair must conduct him/herself - Objectively.

[@risenga_junior302]

Sell out

[@bongumusangomane4338]

Most people who say The South African parliament is degenerating should study the history of the country much closely. South Africa has always set the trend in Africa. We have a rich history of revolutionaries. The South African economy is one of the best performing in Africa. All of you who think South Africa is degenerating, sit back and take notes. A revolution is coming!!

[@shootayibyukhrabaytak674]

It was during apartheid

[@pikswart6844]

Sadly the standard of education has been dropping since apartheid hence we have such empty heads as EFF in parliament deciding important country matters when they know nothing

[@smallbusinessesmatterest2080]

Shavambu is a true speaker

[@matomegift]

This comittee is not objective just emotional and unprofessional .....

[@t_DaKaDa]

the land issue is an emotional fact you don't have to think hard to get it. More especially when people who did it act like is not. judging by your looks you are a lawyer if you from South Africa you'd know why the Concourt is build the way it is, that is a symbolism to acknowledge the past that was emotional. unless in your law school you were not told how technical words can be and you in no position to decide what should be emotional in favor of objectivity. Is like i kill your child on a rand-sum kidnap and i ask you to be objective not emotional. In theory that sounds ideal. You get the picture.

[@mafiozoerasmus978]

No they making up things in history and all of them just useing history that fit their needs

[@seanbouw]

They really rude and out of order without sense

[@tanga3239]

South Africa Parliament is becoming a disgrace, most of the time real issues are kept aside and black and white racist confrontation is center of discussion

[@moosesnWoop]

no it is not.

[@Mrs.T305]

YUP Because of the EFF

[@astraeashaw4768]

The people in red are not taking it seriously, and obviously they do not intend to do so. They will continue to behave like resentful children, angry, spiteful children. Bullies actually. Poor South Africa. Those childish people are making South Africa look like a silly place.

[@eltonjohn729]

We should secede the Cape

[@4abrownafrica939]

@@astraeashaw4768 They take expropriation without compensation very seriously! Malema said if you vote EFF he WILL TAKE THE LAND!

[@sivekrawe875]

WE WILL BE BEHIND THE EFF.......UNTILL OUR LAST BREATH

[@cliffgama8305]

I appreciate the chairman he's cool and brave

[@gambu4810]

Shivambu and Filtane were rude and vile this day. Private citizens can't be disrespected by MPs like this. MPs are paid by us, the citizenry and they insult us like this when they meet some of us. This is absurd.

[@dawiemeyer1630]

no they were not rude, they were just in line with their real racist nature

[@leratotanya1123]

@@dawiemeyer1630 WHITE ARE RACIST THEMSELVES AND LIKE ACTING SMART,S SIS

[@sipenkositayitile559]

Say that again Lerato

[@tfmkhonza5084]

For sure u are under their house

[@baconcrusader7476]

I often come to this channel to get my dose of comedy 😆😆😆! Is this a government or a playground!!

[@stevemc3569]

Ahhh yes South African Politicians , Physical age may go up , but mental age is still stuck at elementary level of immaturity.

[@gabrielmakoba9329]

That look killed me!! 😂🤣If I wasn't so uncreative!! I would meme this!! So please meme this🙏🏾😂😭 11:37

[@cliffgama8305]

Same here😂😂😂😂😂

[@richhenry8004]

Why is an agent from the Matrix running this meeting?

[@rokfam]

For the same reason a hamster is running the wheel in your head - the gentleman is blind. And he did a fine job of running this meeting. How old are you exactly? Grow up or get an education.

[@richhenry8004]

​@@rokfam Agents from the Matrix are cool dudes. Perhaps you should watch the movie again before you continue to be so critical.

[@jonathanjacobs1208]

What a beautiful response

[@philipriekert8711]

At least Mrs. Suzman knew at her death she wasted her whole life on a lost case.

[@buchananscorporationlimite2914]

yip a basket case, very sad.

[@ttsomele]

Very sad that you can justify apartheid..

[@tfandisi]

honourable shivambu I enjoy listening to your debates

[@timditse2961]

One day people will understand the behavior.

[@frankmahoney1268]

TO COURT WE MUST GO, where, when or how, by which or what means did the now occupiers occupies or gain occupation, WAS THEIR MEANS "LEGAL", in respect to the previous owners (occupiers),,just asking,,,.

[@siyethembaqwabe7949]

This Helen susman foundation is a crazy foundation

[@thaboramadubu9653]

I really like that, racism must stop at all from all angles of the world we must respect each as human beings whether white, coloured, black at the end we breathe the air as human.

[@clydeseptember475]

"...members of parliament will NOT presume that people outside of parliament suffer from a severe lack of intelligence.." !!! brilliant! Land debate is not about dirt - it should be about how that dirt is linked to the real economy ... do we use referendums to take exams - no - study the economic facts... history alone will not give the answers.

[@janduplessis4843]

Is it just me or does he sound like Dumbledore haha

[@lizstapelberg6803]

Lies and hatred, no proper debates

[@darkenheat]

Is there a way the land will be divided up for each African? If so leave 1 part for the current land owner the rest divided up. For example if one acre is divided up into four Farms one of the Farms is left to the owner. But the Farms have to be equally dispersed for example one family cannot own 3/4 of the acre each family would get a quarter of an acre to me this sounds fair because the land is still being taken but gives the current owner the opportunity to still survive. Basically what I'm saying is a reset button where everyone is property is equal and from that point it is up to the person to benefit or loss.

[@danydany6895]

Take the land...with No Mercy...United Africa

[@lemontree397]

I feel sorry for the EFF members. 😢 Sucks to live with all that self-inflicted suffering

[@kennethvolwana7799]

Why do you raise your blood sugar 😂😂😂

[@boerqwhaas]

I really like the guy with the paradaakies

[@oarabetsemholo2110]

Whats you problem wena? hahahahaha

[@gustavfraser4795]

I like the chear men must have nerves of steal ,,,child like members of parliament

[@justgjt]

So much racial hatred. Thank goodness I don't live there.

[@happy_onlycreamcherryofafr3238]

Thank jesus u gone but ur brain is still controling u 2 watch where u left Q is Y?Y ar u so interested in the affairs of our bloved and beautyful country wat is eating u so much?mind ur choosen country affairs nt ours ok

[@jeanoliver3573]

not everyone worked for Government

[@turksvy01]

The problem with some of these politicians are they don't like that all has the same opertunity to move forward in life.

[@leratotanya1123]

Nothing like that t all, we do not have the same opportunity...we want our land back and every stolen idea, right and privilegde..You are talking trash, you silly clown

[@Blocc187]

Habashwe ta Floyd

[@garycinamon6275]

Affirmative

[@josespinola5778]

Expropriation is unsavoury and total unconstitutional.

[@seanbouw]

And this is why I dont trust the eff

[@LusaphoMaduma]

Sean Bouw we don't need your trust....

[@seanbouw]

@@LusaphoMaduma it was my opinion nothing to do with u nor eff

[@NS-gk3zw]

@@LusaphoMaduma you a poes haha

[@craigdavidson1493]

Sean Bouw wow we don't want you

[@seanbouw]

@@craigdavidson1493 thank you for not wanting me.

[@robinmclaren4596]

God help this country so many ignorant people in charge..

[@EmmanuelBediako-yg8ne]

Where is the ignorance here,the truth is ignorance to you

[@lameekgod5341]

Your in our country telling them how they should be. You come to other people country to take over leave if you feel like that

[@jimmywayne983]

We should all see skincolour through this chairmans eyes!

[@blaze6134]

Poor little peckie boy not hearing what he wanted to hear.....ag shame maan

[@marabunya]

This Mokwele woman is clowning EFF at every turn. She thinks having bad attitude is the same as being politically on point.

[@DrTHABANGHDIOBE]

Why is the chair wearing sunglasses indoors ?

[@fuckingSickOfCreepyG]

he's blind

[@richyaka4622]

THABANG H. DIOBE his blind

[@juststreamz-fv2be]

Dispossession isn't complex at all... Africans were dispossessed off Africa.

[@juanperon5989]

look at the conduct of these people in red coverall. these people do not know what rules and order is, these guys should be thrown out of the room.

[@leratotanya1123]

You should be thrown out of South Africa..Yeah you learnt that type of conduct of throwing people out from your parents,whose intentions was to enslave black and get rid of them, well guess what? it is not easy to throw out people who are educated, people who are intelligent out, it can only take an intelligent person with good power to do so. EFF disgusts you that you want it thrown out because they intimidate you, not in their country sweedy! Maybe you should do such nonsense in Europe, you silly clown

[@mandzosam9363]

Three white old males, and the outgoing party.

[@BLACKMAMBA-bb3xz]

GTFO THEY LAND... PERIOD! THEY KNOW YOUR SCHEMES

[@bobbyhayes2477]

i kinda like the black guy with shades lol

[@gavinswanepoel4606]

What on earth would the EFF do if all the whites left SA? They'd have nothing left to say. 🤣🤣🤣

[@Mooks689]

We will enjoy the wealth of our country.

[@gavinswanepoel4606]

@Drako Bonnefoi After building this country into what it is today why would all the whites leave now ? And who would take care of people like you?

[@garycinamon6275]

Buy the land vbs piggy snout

[@matomegift]

That lady of the Eff she is boring 😣😦😦

[@aaronnota2]

The more I listen to these processes the more I appreciate Mugabe

[@patplenchur3757]

Aaron Nota my brother I thank you 🙏

[@algernonsidney8746]

He waged war against his fellow Zimbabweans but whatever.

[@uLazaru_icelibrity]

@Aaron Nota Robert Gabriel Mugabe was organic and academically intellectually, he know exactly what's worthy and belong the people of Zimbabweans.

[@allan2827]

i am here for 03:22 to 03:46 i die right there

[@phindimakhubele8252]

no doubt or misleading utterances, Africans were taken what belongs to them nd majority became slaves. shem everything done in earth is not partial nd full of misleading

[@greatgd3966]

Floyd's got thr nerve to argue here after stealing vbs money...clean up your act first...return the money u stole from the poor

[@IAMCorung]

The Honorable Floyd Shivambu ... I like the ring of that. This man is going places... But Drinking and whoring around has destroyed better men then him. He needs to get his dark side under control. I have no respect for a man that does not give respect to the mother of his children. He should concern himself with his optics as his weight reminds many of us of Idi Amin. I think Malema has health issues which will take their toll over time. From what I have seen he seems to suffer from diabetes although I'm not a medical Dr., the rapid weight loss is quite telling. He is trying to eat clean judging by his energy and complexion and he can go a long ways doing that if he abstains from alcohol. This says a lot about his wife and her influence. I noticed that Malema tends to speak on issues that are personally impacting him. This is a tell and there are many professionals like myself that study individuals and their tendencies. He must learn to project mental stability and learn to cloak his true objectives. Time for these boy's to grow up. They have no idea what they are up against. I don't think they are ready to govern, but they will be eventually. First they need to stop wearing those toy soldier uniforms. The beret is O.K., but the red needs to go. They have gotten the worlds attention, now they need to display pratical competence which I have not seen anywhere. Do they even have a soup kitchen or anything that demonstrates their organizational capabilities? Talk and pontification is cheap.

[@bradleynewall7541]

EFF have surely got the world's attention alright. They are seeing the EFF in the same light as Idi Amin Hitler or Stalin. The world is tired of these dictators and evil warmongers. Floyed like his head chief Malema will ultimately fail. They are not here for the interests of man. Like you said have they created a 'soup kitchen'... what work and employment manifesto have they offered to South Africa. All they are, are communist that want to control all. There is no successful communist country in the world, even China is collapsing. EFF are full of hate and will fail like any short lived socialist government. The world wants equality for all, and this racism that comes out of EFF's mouth, is no different to Eugene Turblanch or Hitler, the world is tired of it. God Sees All

[@misganaanshiso2737]

One Africa one love Africa must be United I'm with you malema

[@michaelgriesel4402]

Malema has only grade 1!!

[@peter-johndejong9880]

Misgana Anshiso how can you unite a continent if you divide a country, malema is dividing and hating

[@loupiel3358]

Fool

[@loupiel3358]

Misgana Anshiso is a fool

[@peter-johndejong9880]

Misgana Anshiso the arab countries will never unite with the black countries, they have their own culture and language,

[@jeanoliver3573]

why are all whites being targeted

[@kUsha102]

Injustice They took land by the most cruel and devilish ways. Do they deserve this much negotiating with for its return?Especially when, organisations such as the Suzman foundation appear only distort the issue and delay the process.

[@buchananscorporationlimite2914]

ahsdc sdfb -are you kidding me, there's only a very small percentage of the Bantu population who have been displaced that need to be compensated. Secondly, those who "Did it", as you say are no longer alive, they certainly aren't the Suzman representatives, so don't tar every white person with the same brush. Thirdly, to target white individual land owners and to expropriate land without compensation from them on the basis of their skin pigmentation goes against human rights. Fourthly, this land grab political card will lead to SA becoming another African basket case and more starving masses, its certainly not rocket science, but stupid is stupid does. A ten year old can introduce better policies than the ANC and their friends the EFF.

[@beerstein7137]

It is clear that the folks that are using those microphones dont have a clue how much wear they are putting on the mechanism by swinging it in and out of the way

[@mariaineslampert1625]

This man is a disgrace to apartheid victims. If he knows history, he should start prioritizing equality instead of calling people dumb. I am sorry but that looks just too convenient for him to say that he won't talk about it because people won't understand him. I am shocked.

[@optimistic5778]

they're supposed to be professional and stick to the scope.

[@roodmnt]

Depends how much history you can stomach, or if you're prepared to be as selective as what suits your narrative.

[@tshegoblessing14]

we taking the land

[@mariaineslampert1625]

@@tshegoblessing14 I hope everyone gets a comfortable place to live in!😊

[@mariaineslampert1625]

@@roodmnt History is based on facts my friend. It is not an illusion that people had been suffering because of discrimination and racism for all these years. All he needs to do is to be fair and respectful!

[@tulifranz9336]

The last speaker is not serious. He is asking why the government took a quarter of a century to start the land issue discussion. He also alleged that he has passion over the constitution. Gentleman, join EFF, they have answers to all your questions.

[@peterpott3149]

Hellen suzman foundation director is arrogant, thinking he can suggest parliament must take a 5mins break. Again he offers no solutions, what a joke. They undermine intelligence of black people

[@freddielewis2045]

3 old White man is discrimantion

[@kennyking6718]

What are they?....3 old Europeans

[@saneledhladhla4311]

Young then

[@freddielewis2045]

@@kennyking6718 it was said in a sarcastic way. Press on old white. This land issue is long not about land any more is about white. Listen to the clips . white thieves, wite men rapping black women, white white???

[@xolilemzobsmzoboshe4771]

Are'nt they white kanti?

[@sherekhanthebadasstripodom1338]

This isnt about land ,its about have it all ,revenge hate,greed,power,reverting back in to tribalism law ,the cycles will always continued to overcome humans ,when will the cycles break,

[@tshegoblessing14]

we taking the land

[@leonk6592]

From the government?

[@eltonjohn729]

You will have to climb in the ANC to get a sniff at the land, unless you are Chinese.

[@danzaharie7574]

EFF imbecils

[@yanivbaron5320]

Why is the moderator wearing sunglasses

[@MrSweetaz]

He is blind

[@margaretwambete1228]

His blind

[@jeanoliver3573]

it's unfair and un just

[@mafiozoerasmus978]

Plz stop saying all africans are black coz history does not say that plz go2 spain coz khoisan was the only ppl living in south Africa only had one black ppl living hear was herero so plz stop making up stuff and only use history that works in your favor plz may god be with you all

[@jeanoliver3573]

we paid for the land I was not involved in apartheid I was a little girl

[@leratotanya1123]

With what money? where is proof? get your facts right before you talk shit...There wouldn't be any need to fight for the land if there was proof that you bought this land. You sound so embarrassing to be talking out of your small mind

[@thabokgatitswe5507]

My father also bought a stolen car unknowingly and I inherited it but I had to take it back.

[@piusmbaka8150]

What language did your grandfather used in buying the land

[@samsimmons2831]

😂😂😂