Chapter 1: A Death in Chandler

[@MarzannaMorana]

Poor Charles 😞 he was a man most women would figuratively kill for, not literally kill him. He tried so hard to get help and NO ONE LISTENED. NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO COVER THEIR ASS WITH A MURDER CHARGE. It's just a shame that his petition for mental health didn't work and she conned the dumbass cops and psychologist. How do they feel now!? 😡

[@dianealarcon8304]

Yes, so sad and infuriating at the same time. It goes to show her true mental state- she is a Stager; and knows exactly how to con, plot, and plan. Talks “crap” her Defense Atty’s words, after they murder and then goes on a vacation w/ new hubby. What happened to the 144,000 that you needed to secure for Chad’s church of the first born? Can you prepare for end times on a Hawaiian beach? No use bothering with that until you need more money and a stooge to con. Prison is too good for these two.

[@glossypots]

An unharmed man shot, a wife who doesn’t seem to care. Just a little more investigation and the killing could have stopped there.

[@Kareyn2]

Heartbreaking. Charles said “I don’t know if she’s going to hurt my children”. Lori said “I could murder you now”. And that’s exactly what happened.

[@mjbates9624]

This whole thing is so tragic

[@SweetUniverse]

Charles said he didn't know what Lori would do with his children. Well, she killed both of them. She's a psychopath.

[@barbh1]

This is a good podcast. I had never heard the bishop's call before. Again, the Chandler police have much to answer for. I think they must feel a lot of guilt about brushing Charles off because everything he tried to tell them came true. Also, with the threats of violence and knowing there were children in the home, the children's services should have been brought in and they were not.

[@ciobalina7445]

They don't care actually. They may care in terms of their social imaginse, but personally they don't care. In this case, the man was killed. But there are many cases where they act the same and a person like Charles is never helped,their life is destroyed.

[@katherineharvey5663]

Adam told the detective from Arizona she murdered Charles and still they did nothing

[@kaylee4394]

Is it possible for Charles family to sue the PD for incompetence, and allowing this to happen to their father. A wrongful death lawsuit?

[@katherineharvey3669]

When someone says I will destroy you believe

[@shannonslutzky4754]

So sad to me that Charles tried so hard and they were so nonchalant with him. oh you think she’ll hurt your children? She stole all the money, and threatened to kill you? no big deal… oh wait, her brother just killed the man that made these claims and she’s laughing before his body is cold….makes sense! you’re all normal. If anyone had taken this first claim more seriously maybe the next 4PEOPLE would still be alive. So sad💔

[@nataliecassidy4298]

I think Tylee lied to police because she was told to and she was afraid of her evil 😈 lady parent. 😮😮😮😮😢😢😢😢from AKRON,OHIO

[@Sparrowdean]

It was a home rented 3 weeks before the shooting, and the children slept on mattresses on the floor and lived out of suitcases. In fact, the only bedroom that was organised with a bed and clothes in the closet was Lori's bedroom. Yet, this ridiculous reporter thinks it's important to mention the value of the property as if it were owned by Lori.

[@cassandra3862]

Wow. Chandler police certainly do not come out of this looking anything but incompetent.

[@Dawnsdelightsart]

So many protected Lori and should be tried for aiding and abiding her. Especially the Bishop, the mormon church is so afraid of any bad news they willingly cover up this bs.

[@victoriagrove5344]

I do not believe Lori was delusional. These behaviors have been a consistent pattern of her M.O. Because the evidence of her plots and considering her kids “obstacles”, the so-called delusions were not evident…. not to me.

[@ObserverDingue]

Very well done podcast on an interesting & crazy case. It'd be great if you could put the Lori Vallow playlist in order.

[@katherineharvey5663]

MG was involved up to her lying eyeballs

[@katherineharvey5663]

Tylee took up for her evil mother. Those cops are disgusting. They all need fired

[@katherineharvey3669]

Ànyone could. Tell he was lying. Tyler should have told the truth but she lied for her mom

[@dianealarcon8304]

Tylee lied for her mom. Colby lied for his mom. Sister lied for her sister. Mom lied for her daughter. Brother, Alex, lies for his sister. They were stooges in her con of a life. Amazing. No wonder her niece, Melanie, drank the kool-aid.

[@katherineharvey5663]

Evil shrews both of them