WHY DO THEY WANT TITUS DEAD?! New Lore 40K Lore Explored

[@elijahlovejoy5438]

Titus and Leandros will be dreadnoughts in the 51st millennium and he'll still be suspicious

[@dean_l33]

Space marine 8 will have this exact plot line after Titus save Terra from Magnus, Mortarion, Angron and all the other traitor legions

[@aki2662]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Son.D.Lollipop]

That would actually be fucking hilarious

[@drankrur]

"Greetings space marine...let me tell you about the very suspicious Titus. You must be vary of him." "Greetings chaplain dreadnought...this is just a old change." "I first got suspicious during the battle of Graia." "We defeated chaos 4k years ago..you know that?" "It lives on in him!"

[@FlexStudioPL]

THEY will be in one dreadnought together for millennia!

[@jesseseva2219]

Calgar: "There is a mission. It will take you away from the second company FOR A TIME" The Mission: PROJECTED MORTALITY ABSOLUTE

[@unlike_mars6392]

No wonder leandros was so eager to get titus on this mission 😂😂🤣

[@gwaustin99]

​@unlike_mars6392 not even that but leandros was the one who volunteered him for it

[@Soul-HunterVIII]

Calgar was fine with Titus going on this dangerous mission because he knew Titus would be the one to complete it and still come back. Leandros sent Titus to die, but Titus knows no Fear and can't die to some weak heretics

[@mr.darknd1119]

Heresy if you think titus died.

[@brecibros2469]

​@Soul-HunterVIII yeah, leandros started to cream at the idea of titus dying on a suicide mission but Calgar probably knew titus would survive and that is would probably rub more salt into leandros's wound

[@stevencavanagh7990]

I have a feeling that in his single-minded quest to kill Titus, Leandros will be the one to fall to chaos.

[@equos5060]

But Calgar approved that deployment, what does that mean then...?

[@servalkorion686]

@@equos5060we don’t know where the orders came from. This seems to be a completely different mission then the one Calgar asked Titus to join

[@christopherjohnson2171]

@@equos5060 That Calgar has absolute faith in Titus

[@TheBrules2]

@@christopherjohnson2171exactly.

[@equos5060]

@@christopherjohnson2171 that doesn't sounds plausible. Calgar just recently brought back Titus to the chapter. Was apologetic about not bringing him back earlier. Literally got save by him from eternal demonic damnation and he just willingly sent him to basically certain death mission? And he didn't even warn him? Sounds fishy to me.

[@EmaRussoUltra]

People that think he died at the end of the Secret Level episode clearly did not get the entire point of that short story.

[@thecommentguy9380]

They conveniently forget that there's no shot that the chapter would even considering leaving behind a bladeguard veteran and the unusually warp resistant hero of graia and demerium

[@EmaRussoUltra]

@@thecommentguy9380 well, actually they never expected them to survive, but Titus will find a way like always.

[@thecommentguy9380]

@EmaRussoUltra honestly they should have sent the Grey Knights or Malum Caedo to handle that

[@thecringeprince2040]

@@thecommentguy9380it was a suicide mission. They weren’t even expected to survive

[@thecringeprince2040]

@@thecommentguy9380to handle a base level daemonic threat? The Grey Knights need to be in the thick of demonic incursions. You can’t just send a couple grey knights to handle a base demon threat that doesn’t even involve a demon, but a mutated sorcerer

[@SoulCrusherEx]

The Emperor has bigger plans for Titus. "Rise, Son of Guilliman"

[@meatybtz]

I know that some people think it was Calgar, but when I heard it I honestly felt that it was the Big E, reaching out and saying that.

[@adventofknowledge]

I do wonder if hes meant to join the grey knights at some point in some way, I dont think he can become a fully fledged knight at this point right or is that even possible? But he definitely seems like he is meant for something more, perhaps more than the ultramarines. He 110% needs to meet guilliman next, he has too.

[@SoulCrusherEx]

@@meatybtz at first it was calgar in the sub titles but they changed it to just Voice: so i think they imply the emperor with it also the voice sounded not like calgars

[@junior-fj8ud]

@@adventofknowledge Potential Grey Knights are selected at birth, iirc.

[@Autobotmatt428]

@@meatybtz Replay the campaign they changed it to The Voice

[@GameRiot]

I just know Titus is bigger than Dorn and the Imperial Fists combined ...

[@ChapterMasterValrak]

DON'T YOU START

[@brandtdrake2231]

😂

[@TemplarBlack.]

You did not ....

[@stevencavanagh7990]

Just because your bigger doesn't mean your better. unless your Tybros that guys awesome

[@Chuck2076]

@@ChapterMasterValrakImperial Fist Glazer

[@00mistressofmadness00]

Leandros: He's dead now, definitely! He won't survive this mission! Some Space Marine: Did you hear, Titus is back. Leandros: F*CK!!!

[@BanishedSilentShadow3318]

Titus: "he has risen baby girl!" Leandros in the other room in the distance: "FUCK!!!"

[@Dkspardan]

@@BanishedSilentShadow3318 Wait wheres that music coming from and why is titus missing his chestplate armour?

[@tomthecyberhumandrone1412]

​@@Dkspardan🎶when I don't want the world to see me🎶...

[@Matt-FRESHMINTY]

Leandros: Titis i want you dead Valrak: Who could possibly want Titus dead?

[@ChapterMasterValrak]

@@Matt-FRESHMINTY 😂😂😂

[@ZeroAxle]

True though lol

[@undeadwarrior88]

But Calgar approved the mission does he also want him dead

[@NeocrimsonX]

​@undeadwarrior88 calgar knew Titus is built different.

[@artilleryboi8119]

Titis

[@RedJesseGaming]

Leandros is really giving erebus a run for his money as most hated character

[@Virdan793]

At the very least Erebus contributed to the plot, we all love to hate Erebus. But no one likes Leandros. He’s just there to be an ass. Edit: The main reason I hate Leandros is because he is in my eyes a hypocrite. He constantly went on and on about the codex and the rules. But when it came to report his suspicions he broke the rules and skipped the chain of command and went straight to the inquisition instead of a chaplain.

[@KDerpy]

Don't compare leandros and erebus, that's an insult to erebus

[@beccadixon1943]

At this point I can't help but think leandros' obsession with proving titus is a traitor is going to push him to chaos. He just can't let it go, much like magnus with his warp exploration. Tzeentch will strike again and my money is on leandros becoming an avatar of chaos for the final boss

[@beccadixon1943]

If we get space marine 3 ⬆️

[@servalkorion686]

His fear of Chaos will be his downfall

[@beccadixon1943]

@@servalkorion686 definitely, 2 games of it has to mean something right?

[@Kubrzesz]

Like Librarian Akios from DoW

[@beccadixon1943]

@@Kubrzesz I've only played DoW 3 so you might have to bring me up to speed with this character, is he from one of the older games?

[@AP798D]

The Sgt’s nightmare was brought on by the sorcerer tapping into his fear for what could happen to Titus. The whole point of this episode/story was to give us background on Titus and solidify our concerns of his fate. Titus, knows no fear. Titus is for all descriptive purposes the perfect space marine. He literally has no fear, a moto of the Astartes to live by, Titus is fearless and so chaos or any enemy/situation has no hold/control over him. The Emperor literally commands him to get up at the SpaceMarine2 final scene. Titus isn’t going anywhere except into the heat of battle.

[@rankcolour8780]

There's a little more to it than that. Even before the sorcerer enters his mind to confront him he isn't effected the same way as the other brothers. They all have significant physiological responses to the warp craft, dilated pupils, etc. Titus has none of that his pupils don't even twitch, he genuinely is somehow warp-resistant. If course he is still a bad ass who knows no fear but there is 100% more going on. They would not leave such a massive detail in without it being deliberate.

[@khalless805]

In the horus heresy novel "Angels of Caliban", one of the terran Dark Angels that served alongside the Emperor has his mind probed by two librarians of the legion. Both are knocked out of his mind by a "giant glowing golden ball of light, akin to a sun next to the candle that they were". When asked about this by the librarian, the space marine in particular gloats about the fact that the Emperor personally warded the first space marines against warp mind attacks. Watching Titus' resistance in both games and combined with the Secret Level episode, I think he will probably be kept around as a steadfast tool against chaos corrupting sorcerers... Which would be swell considering the next daemon primarch that will return is Fulgrim, and likely the next one will be Lorgar. We already know Chairon is from Calth, a survivor of the Word Bearer's attack there. I also don't remember if Kor Phaeron (the author of said attack) is dead or not... We have all the pieces for amazing content. On a final note. We still don't know what the Amazon series will be about, but I can see Cavill as Titus 100%.

[@omarion6832]

@@rankcolour8780can this all be chalked up to him just having a higher aptitude to his gene seed compared to other marines giving him better warp resistance as a result

[@rankcolour8780]

@@omarion6832 Gene seed doesn't carry warp resistance sadly, if it did the Heresy probably would not have happened.

[@robertofloresmendoza6435]

One of two, the obvious one is that Leadros still hates Titus and wants him dead so he suggested him for the mission. But we can’t ignore that Titus has now stopped two chaos incursion, and we see in the Secret Level episode there’s a destroyed Titan and signs of previous fighting on that world. It’s entirely possible that this was just a mission that needed to get completed and Titus has proven time and again to be incredibly effective against chaos

[@erih2934]

Does it make sense to send your 'best' to stop a threat? Yes. Is it easier to cope with the sacrifice if you hate the men you send? Yes. Like you said, its a quite obvious choice to send Titus with his resistance to the warp. We accept the other 3 being sent to their death, but Titus is above that?... he is a marine. That's all they are made for. I really don't get the drama as presented in the video here.

[@robertofloresmendoza6435]

@ agreed, it’s like Titus said in SM2 “Duty is all”

[@colonelturmeric558]

You say that, but clearly some marines are held in a different regard otherwise every near-dead marine would be in a dreadnought. Yet they are reserved for heroes of stature.

[@slackeratlarge575]

I know who wants Titus dead. It’s Chapter Master Valrak

[@grex951]

Leandros...

[@ruideng-c7l]

god i hate that guy

[@BanishedSilentShadow3318]

You know it would be ironic in the 3rd (or 4th) space marine game Leandros has fell into Chaos corruption and Titus is tasked to kill him. While Titus would be saddened or angered by this meanwhile the community are "i want every ammo aimed at him."

[@TKUltra971]

Titus needs his own mini-series to cover his exploits in detail since making games of this caliber for DLC or other games takes a ton of resources. He's mistrusted by his own brothers, the Inquisition still has a eye up even though they judged him untainted, then he's making a bit of a name for himself slaying Chaos lords. Truthfully? I love the guy 100%. He's turning into a jaded loyalist slowly but surely and those are the BEST kinds of loyalists let alone Ultramarines.

[@19Butterman98]

Most definitely need that Titus mini-series but his own brothers trust him. Leandros however does not but thats just Leandros being a cuck lol

[@TKUltra971]

@@19Butterman98 They distrust him quite a bit and keep him at a distance in the chapter. The first game was thought to be a split timeline as Titus was the captain of the second and not Cato Sicarius, with the ending of the first game and being locked up with the Inquisition for accusations of being a witch, the Ultramarines didn’t even want him back when he was finish. (How Cato got that promotion he was drooling over for years). Calgar gave a firm no to Titus return when contacted at first, but eventually after the events of the galaxy split and being pressed from all sides they brought him back. He’s under heavy scrutiny, even after crossing the rubicon becoming a Primaris Marine. Tldr: he has a history, everyone is eyes up when he's on assignment.

[@19Butterman98]

@@TKUltra971 After Space Marine 2, in the eyes of most Ultramarines he is redeemed. However to Leandros no since 1. He is always suspicious 2. He is the Chaplain so it's his job to be. Lowkey Acheran could also want Titus gone since you know a former Captain of the same company comes back into YOUR company during a situation that went from bad to worse on your watch and needed your Chapter Master to help bail you out. Calgar also thinks highly of Titus. Don't be surprised if Acheran gets replaced by Titus. And Acheran kinda knows it might happen.

[@TKUltra971]

​ @19Butterman98 You from the other video? Yeah he's redeemed sure, but not trusted. That's two different things. I said they are suspicious of HIM not he's a suspicious job. So, we can pause right there. lol. Calgar may respect him now but he didn't before and knowing Calgar? Still doesn't competely. He was about to let him be sliced open like a frog on the inqusitions cutting board. I'm speaking more on where he stands now. And if you know anything about the ultra marines from their own lengthy history, redeemed doesn't always mean trusted.

[@helljumper2565]

@@TKUltra971I’m sorry did we play the same space marines? Because Calgar was pissed when Titus was taken, and he had been trying to get him back constantly but had been denied by the Inquisitor who took Titus

[@slackeratlarge575]

Leandros posting him to deadly mission after deadly mission trying to temp him to the powers of chaos and prove himself right, Does not sound like a Chaplain. It sounds like a Heritic monster 👹

[@chief1lung94-psn2]

Which leaves us all wondering, how the hell did Leandros become a Chaplain, dude has issues that kinda make it feel like he wouldn't have passed as chaplain.

[@luxeternity]

​@chief1lung94-psn2 according to wh40k nerds...the title chaplain is basically a punishment to those who deserve it. Leandros getting the chaplain rank is because he report Titus resistance to chaos element to inquisition instead of the chapter own librarian. He broke the codex that he love so much lol. Also chaplain cannot goes into combat and only to watch for sign of chaos. Chaplain also under overwatch by other people. thus he's kinda frustrated

[@colonelturmeric558]

None of that is necessarily true. Chaplains go into battle all the time. Ortan Cassius, Grimaldus, Sapphon, Asmodai, Lemartes etc. Its also not a punishment, thats the deathwatch which is seen by some as a punishment. Leandros is just a bit plot holey until its explained more as to why he was made a chaplain

[@johanmetreus1268]

@@luxeternity " according to wh40k nerds...the title chaplain is basically a punishment" If that is the case, you need to find better nerd who have a clue about 40k. Chaplains are the Space Marine equivalent of Imperial Guard Commissars, set to prevent corruption within the chapters in an Empire where the standard procedure is to execute the whole regiment if they fought chaos-spawn to any extent as the risk for taint is considered too high to let them live (although if they fought with particular valour, mind-wiping and transforming into Servitors is an option).

[@critical-slayer]

One things for sure he's the most interesting Ultramarine character they have had for a while.

[@ComradeStrogg]

I disagree that Leandros wants to get rid of Titus. I know that people love to bust Leandros for what he's done to Titus in SM1, but I actually think he started to trust Titus a little more. He knew that Titus was the only one who could make a difference on this mission. Sending 4 random marines is a certain failure, while Titus and his mysterious Warp resistance could give an upper hand to the squad and lead them to success (and it did). If Leandros doesn't trust Titus, then there's no point in sending him on this important mission - he could sabotage it, make things even worse. If Leandros wants to catch Titus on heresy, he must keep him close, watch his every step, not send him on crucial missions that involve daemons and ancient artifacts. Plus, on this particular mission the squad was out of reach of the command vessel, it's even easier for Titus to sabotage everything, get rid of his squad with the sorcerer's help and then pretend like he's the only survivor (or just run away and join some warband eventually). I understand that people are eager to see Leandros get unalived in Space Marine 3, but I actually think the whole third game should be about Leandros learning from his mistakes and starting to trust Titus fully. (and then get stabbed in the back because we all know that Titus is an Alpha Legion spy)

[@edgargad2941]

Titus: Nonsense, I'm no spy. I'm Alpharius.

[@ericknunez8069]

I got whiplash from the last sentence

[@GendaiRonin]

😂 that last sentence though

[@EPGelion]

Leandros: If he floats, he's a witch

[@frankyuengling8074]

Does that mean he's also a duck!

[@EPGelion]

@ It’s simple science

[@Replicaate]

Chaos turned me into a newt, but I got better.

[@LoganSearles]

If I had any doubt about Titus not falling to chaos, that episode of SL put them to rest. No child that angry and so full of conviction could ever fall to ruin.

[@huckingfell45]

Angron.

[@LoganSearles]

@@huckingfell45 Angron had no conviction, he let his rage and hate consume him.

[@huckingfell45]

@LoganSearles not arguing that regard, but he didn't really have much a choice in his fall, lorgar was the one that turned him into a daemon. He was happy that he was dying and before that bald moron stepped in, he was actually at peace.

[@changer_of_ways_999]

Lorgar, Horus, Ahriman, Chaos is full of incredibly determined and dedicated boys that broke bad.

[@ynnadquah]

If you remember after Leandros revealed himself and ad Titus boarded the Thunderhawk, Titus looked concerned. I guess this is why.

[@Captain40K]

Titus is so unkillable that even GW cant kill him lol

[@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ]

0:10 CAPTAIN Titus

[@ADarkPuma]

Someone who better get used to being disappointed

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

Chaplain Leandros trying to kill Titus is a red herring. It's definitely the work of Captain Acheron who is trying to off him before Titus can replace him. The key piece of evidence is found in the Iron Halos, you can see Calgar absorb the time altering affects with his Iron Halo but in the Secret Level episode you have a several Halo wearing bladeguard get frozen by what is presumably a weaker sorcerer than a Lord of Change... Best guess is defunct Iron Halos because none of them activated at all. The Chaplaincy would have zero authority over the Chapter's Armory to issue such defunct equipment, but you know who does? Captain "I can only spare you two squad members for this suicide mission, disregard the two full squads of Ultramarines milling around behind me." fuggin Acheron.

[@Sgt_Glory]

Titus: "We will need an Alpha level psyker for this mission." Acheran: "Best I can do is this old guy who sweeps the floors. Seen him bend a spoon once."

[@ridgerunnersp]

Def dodgy vibes from red beard

[@Ceiling_Gato]

Acheran has an official mini, Leandros does not.

[@dkbros1592]

But same acheron warn Titus of someone is trying to bring him down he said if himself?

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

@@dkbros1592 Yeah, in true super villain fashion. Also *Acheran... I think I was conflating Acheran with Archaon in my head as I typed that up.

[@UnknownOrc]

I was waiting for this video as I asked in the livestream and didn't get much answer, thanks for the detailed speculation!

[@EnemyAtom65]

0:50 Demetrian, not Demetrius. Just a quick correction.

[@AppleFumble]

You missed the part where Metareus 'accepts' the absolute mortalis mission. If it was penitence they wouldn't get the option so i believe Leandros is beginning to trust Titus' resistance bit by bit. We have to remember all space marines grow and whilst Leandros is not the newbie he was, hes clearly been proven as a competent chaplain and we all know heresy grows from idleness. Leandros only suggested him to Calgar for the mission and Titus is not going to deny his chapter master either way he lives to serve, hes also been proven to be highly competent against chaos. Were going to see Titus put through more trails that seem unfair but ultimately it builds his character to be this unbreakable beacon of the emperor because he knows no fear, who knows what a soul like that is capable of when fully trusted and unburdened by doubt.

[@FriendlyNecromancer]

The lines delivered by TItus' mentor are not given as concerns, they're delivered as praise, as remarkable and astonishing traits. There's nothing to suggest anything other than an extremely proud "Father" figure of Titus.

[@Soul-HunterVIII]

Calgar agreed to send Titus on this mission because he knew that Titus would be the one to complete it and survive

[@Ramuk]

Leandros: The fact that we are all still standing here is a testament to their heroism! Anyway, there's nothing you or I can do to bring them back now. Titus: He has risen babygirl! Leandros: FUCK!!!

[@RomarioPatrice]

Leandros, that bastard 😤

[@equos5060]

But Calgar approved that mission, what now?

[@Borescoped]

What now? Leandros is still a bastard, thats what. A Blue Falcon.

[@tossapat027]

@@equos5060 Bro Calgar did fighting lord of change buy TItus time to destroy Chaos-Relics and get Him&็His Squad out of Immaterium in Space Marine 2/Chapter Master know him give A MAN WHO MAKE MISSION IMPOSSIBLE BECOME POSSIBLE in Squad that has 1%Chance to Survive(Funny Thing:They did olny lost 2 marine in MISSION)

[@silversurfer8818]

I assumed he was sent, because the mission had the highest percentage of success with him on it.

[@TK199999]

Titus abilities is answered in such a simple way. He was possessed by a Daemon and the Daemon was exercised, when Titus was child. Since the Exorcists Chapter Marines display the exact same abilities as Titus. Hell Titus surviving that event may have been what attracted the Ultramarine recruiter.

[@Phentarus]

Bloody hell Valrak, its not Dimitrius, its Demetrian Titus. Btw, space marine 1 is free on GOG today.

[@michaelkean5969]

Hey Valrak I was in Games workshop the other day and the Perturabo model was on the shelf above the Dorn one. Even GW themselves know whose better

[@CloudedThoughtss]

I think Leandros is still trying to get him killed out of hate/jealousy at this point. Calgar said the chaplain hand picked him for the mission. I have a feeling he’ll become the next emperors champion or a living saint

[@zedatkinszed1216]

Emperor's Champion? Wrong Chapter mate

[@dominicscreativefilms]

Leandros: *sends Titus and the guy who recruited Titus on a suicide mission* Titus: *Kills another chaos daemon* Leandros: “HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!! 😭

[@my_dad_came_back_with_milk]

At this point big E Himself will come back to life to kick leandros ass

[@Kyle-v2w]

Very clean edit as always! Very informative and passionately delivered. You, MajorKill and Mr Bones do the community justice 😎😎😎 big love and keep it up

[@Replicaate]

Either Leandros's obsession w Titus will make him Fall, mostly because now he probably lowkey doubts everything he's made judgement calls on since he's turned out to be so very wrong about Titus, and if he's wrong about that what if his faith is misguided, aaand that's how you get a demon manifesting in your reclusium at 1AM asking if you'd like to hear the good news about Chaos OR He'll have a redemptive moment and admit he was wrong as a young man to throw Titus to the Inquisition's wolves; go on his own little quest for forgiveness from his old commander, and so have third Space Marine game feature Titus facing Insert Unholy Chaos/Foul Xenos Foe here with Chairon, Gadriel, AND Leandros at his back.

[@LiliaArmoury]

"in life shame, in death redemption" is a warhammer quote that comes to mind which may sum up leandros' actions

[@archcarrier]

My interpretation of the secret level episode was that the demon was using their fears against them. So the cap’s biggest fear was seeing Titus succumb to chaos, not any kind of foreshadowing.

[@D1rtySanchezZ1]

one of the really interesting lore points that has been discussed recently is the idea that Fear is what leads to corruption by the ruinous powers. each chaos god uses the fear a mortal has to corrupt them; fear of failure, fear of pain, fear of incompetency or fear of isolation to name a few. like only 1 Grey Knight has ever been corrupted by Chaos, and it was when they where in Slaanesh's palace looking at the prince of pleasure's face. i dont think any mortal would of been able to stand up to a Chaos god without shitting their pants.

[@TJM689]

When Calgar gave Titus the laurels of victory, I tought it was more of a protection he gave Titus so his loyalty wouldnt be questioned again

[@MrMysticphantom]

I think its more of the fact that a suicide mission by high skill and special skill warriors was required to complete the mission objective, and it is likely that everybody on the mission went there knowing and willing of it

[@austinnadotti1941]

Leandro’s I believe may be having a whisper from a demon keeping him always “suspicious” of Titus, trying to kill him knowing he’s incorruptible

[@TheLastRaven]

Leandros to Titus: You are in this chapter but i do not grant you the rank of brother. Titus: Very well.

[@SimonThorne-r4r]

Space Marine 4 - Fall to chaos ?? Game from the chaos perspective choose your demon path :P Or Titus is a little bit of a blank haha

[@changer_of_ways_999]

It'd be cool to play heretic for the next game and then get redemption through death in 5 to finish it up.

[@edgargad2941]

​@@changer_of_ways_999play a chaos marine who is a deeply closeted loyalist.

[@Ceaudrious]

Leandros reminds me of lucius of emperor's children... I bet he will fall like him too

[@timburculosis1358]

What’s crazy is the little detail in secret level where, when the demon is goin into their minds, their irises in their eyes open up wide, but when it comes to Titus his eyes stay normal

[@knightsljx]

false. it happens to Titus as well. Go watch it again

[@beardedsquire]

I can't wait for Leandros to realise he's been working for Erebus this whole time

[@horatio_]

Your talent and professionalism on this video is exceptional 🌿🧘🏻‍♂️🛸

[@Tarnthewarrior]

Guilliman: I'm proud of you son. Leandros: REALLY?! THANK YOU FA- Guilliman: Leandros, shut up. I'm talking to Titus.

[@moderndaylich]

Either his resistance to Chaos is what saved him against the sorcerer, or because of that sorcerer peering into his 'past', that connection is what granted him the resistance in the first place (Good ol' Tzeenchian paradoxes). After all, the Exorcists literally undergo possession to become immune to corruption, so it isn't entirely impossible.

[@Chuck2076]

Leandros putting Titus on that mission is questionable. 10 bucks says Leandros falls to Chaos persuasion

[@frappy7]

The best take I've heard about this was that the veteran sergeant who was stabbed in the dream state is now carrying an aspect of the demon. The first two bladeguard marines died outright in their dreamwalk, and Titus obviously successfully resisted... the sergeant lost his battle with himself/the demon so shouldn't have lived. Somewhat like a morgul blade from lord of the rings, he's been stabbed and I agree that it's a good theory that he may now turn out to be possessed.

[@thepain353]

DLC where you play as leandros looking for a missing titus, assuming he fell to chaos despite objections from your squad mates. Eventually finding him doing something heroic and your squad mates laughing at you

[@KingMonkeyEnma]

“Hey Titus I got a sick mission for you” Sends Titus on a suicide mission - Manus Calger or something

[@zedatkinszed1216]

Leandros is one of a few things: 1) a bit of a 1980s style plot device, who send Titus on missions and no matter what always remains suspicious of him. Or, 2) He's a heretic. Look a) it's his fault Captain Trajan died. It's his fault Titus got involved with 2 chaos possessed inquisitors. Yes both inquisitors in Space Marine were possessed - the guy accusing Titus of chaos corruption was later killed by the Grey Knights. Or, 3) A mix of 1 & 2 - he's an unwitting pawn of the cabal (or some similar organization) putting Titus where he needs to be to fight Chaos.

[@murderraven7770]

SM2 got me into WH4k and now i have an army based on Titus as Nullus in the Deathwatch. he is my Warlord.

[@OmegaUberDeathbot]

Leandros sent him on that mission to either have him fall to chaos or die. In the first game Leandros was taken in by Titus after his team was killed off by chaos. They made a choice that wasn’t in codex and were wiped. Leadros retreated into doctrin for safety instead of learning a lesson. Fast forward a half century and Leandro’s is now a chaplain (of course). At this point he HAS to tear down Titus in any way possible. Has to find a flaw because his entire belief system and safety net depends on it.

[@AntiSimpTrooper-175]

The moment you said that we have information about who wanted to get titus killed. I just knew. Especially the cutscene from sm2 I'm like "yea.."

[@BuBu-wd9ow]

The action of the secret level definitely takes place after the events of Space Marine 2, this can be seen in the fact that Titus has a new helmet with wings that he received at the end of Space Marine 2.

[@bingbongID]

The bigger question why did Calgar give approval

[@LahLahMan]

Titus knew he was going to die but sure as hell didn't act like it lol. He was sprinting through cars and jumping on tanks. Dude was having a blast.

[@brownad33]

Or Leandros knows Titus is chaos resistant and the best chance of mission success in the secret level was to send someone resistant to chaos. Possibly also believes Titus is tainted and this is why he's resistant. So sending Titus on the secret level mission functions as a test with all possibly outcomes being good (well Titus going to chaos is bad but it would confirm Leandros suspicions so he could say "I told you so"). This is kind of the impression I get from Leandros towards Titus in SM2, suspicion of Titus being a ticking chaos bomb but also understanding Titus is an effective asset.

[@mark561]

"What could a soul like that be capable of?" - it's a shame the Grey Knights don't recruit from other space marine chapters :D

[@FourShotmyEX]

I looked at the “projected mortality absolute” as a way to show new fans or people who have no idea what Warhammer 40k is just how strong and resilient space marines are supposed to be.

[@MechaMan3451]

I wonder if the argument that Leandros gave to Calgar to have Titus go on this mission is that the whole Space Marine II story is basically a mission with “Absolute” mortality as well, and he persevered. It could also be that there is this expectation that Titus can accomplish the impossible, which is why he is sent to the impossible missions.

[@InquisitorKryptman]

You're looking great Val, Congrats!

[@casualknight8962]

Titus literally the Master Chief of Warhammer 40k .

[@release_the_Diddy_list]

It’s Illiyan Nastase. He thinks he might get some screen time out of it.

[@RationalCatholic]

Controversial theory... Titus is a lost Primarch reborn (2nd or 11th). After re-watching SM1 cutscenes, SM2 cutscenes, and the secret level I am convinced. His aversion to chaos, his absolute fearlessness, and his ability to withstand even the most extremes of damage. Nemeroth calls him brother in SM1, as he can feel the warp in him. Metaurus' vision of Titus stabbing him hints at how quickly Titus grew up. GW is definitely setting him up for something big.

[@Typhoon-77]

How ironic would it be if Leandros fell to chaos? 😂

[@Napukin]

I don't think he's being sent to die. I think Leandros understands that he's killed two chaos sorcerors and likely the most effective tool for guaranteed success.

[@thegrumpyraccoon]

I'm just waiting Huron Blackheart jumping from shadows and saying: "I am your father Titus, you know it to be true."

[@BanishedSilentShadow3318]

Titus: "he has risen!" Leandros: "FUCK!"

[@Shadowdrag00n]

He seems like Titus has the abilities of a blank without being a blank.

[@DirtyDanRichards]

My friend at work told me he thinks Titus is the first Emperor's champion for the ultra marines.

[@evil_noodles]

Leandros will fall for sure. He's so obsecessed with pushing Titus that he won't notice himself slipping until it's too late.

[@Corusame]

Calgar "Who in the Emperor's name sent my best boy Titus on a suicide mission immediately after such an epic victory??" **Leandros shifting around uncomfortably** Leandros "I have no idea whatsoever" 🙄

[@blueeagle9883]

I played SM 1 again just before the release of SM2 and when I saw who the at Leandros was back I literally told him to F off. My wife looked at me and asked if I was ok. Had to inform her on what happened and she said the same thing and added some more colorful words that I'll refrain from saying here.

[@NobIeSixx]

I had a theory that maybe he is being tested intentionally because they believe he is living proof of the Emperor's direct protection. Which is why Calgar disapproves, but allows and travels with Titus to go on his next mission which was secret level with an absolute mortality risk.

[@jackperry4203]

So if I remember correctly, the original creators of Space Marine had a long story plan that did have Titus being somewhat corrupted. This was discussed a few years after the release of the first game but WAY before the announcement of SM2. I dont remember the details (if it was the game director of the original story writer) but there was a whole arc that had him leave the Ultramarines all together. I don't remember if he would fall and be redeemed but that was supposed to be the original plan.

[@redsalamander9999]

One idea I've just had is that, if it is indeed Leandros who wants Titus dead (and let's be honest, it probably is), he might not even be doing this out of suspicion of corruption at this point. Remember, Titus returning with full honours and getting covered in glory and exonerated of all wrongdoing doesn't exactly paint Leandros in a good light, so maybe him being sent on a suicide mission could just be an act of petty revenge. And if he can pin Titus's death on being corrupted, so much the better, it would make his own suspicions seem retroactively justified. That being said, we still haven't seen that much of Leandros in the present and we don't really know how he might have changed between the events of both games. There's quite a few ways they could go with him and Titus, and I've no doubt they're going to explore the dynamics between the two in future installments.

[@juliancarreon5569]

The emperor has a plan for Titus, as he’s the one who told him to “rise…” after his fight with Imurah, I think the Chaplain (Leandros) and Calgar recommended him for this mission because they knew of his inherent resistance to chaos

[@rp3454]

Titus stared into the Warp and the Warp stared back. And the Warp blinked.

[@danfirestarter]

Even being sent on a mission that was supposed to be a one way trip the storm guard veterans showed fear when they faced the demon(death) but Titus showed none. This man is either guided by the emperor himself or is something else entirely. I know it’s very unlikely but I’m hoping Titus is some sort of primarch

[@Nurgüii]

The greatest part of secret level was the end when titus was standing there to fight the hordes of chaos. There was almost this air of this is my path this my element. In those final moments it was as if on some level the sargeant knew, this was the way and nothing else matters. So whoever wants titus dead better be ready for war because one way or another they will fall from their path! Great animation and great story.

[@nathanrigaud4677]

I d love to see Titus being recruit by Greyknights in Space Marine 3 for his particular resistance of the warp. Would be awesome

[@bmohr9826]

Leandros wants Titus dead but you can easily see he’ll fall to chaos because of his jealousy/suspicion. Leandro’s can’t get around the fact that Titus is becoming a hero of the imperium to Calgar and probably Guilliman’s approval. Proud dad moment

[@hazed1009]

Of course you're right. I think games workshop watch your videos to double check everything makes sense to the true fans!! 😂 Your take makes perfect sense to me. There's no way Titus is going to die on a planet alone and unseen. His destiny lies on a battlefield surrounded by his brothers, fighting unimaginable hordes. (My god wasn't the hand to hand fighting in the new episode good!! More please GW! 😅)

[@SAMcGarvey1]

Small detail, they said "take you away from 2nd Company" but all the bladeguard in secret level are second Company. Oh how that gold looks good. Just can't help but use it.

[@madmerlinsart]

I've got a friend who believes Titus will eventually become Chapter Master of his own Chapter.

[@SnazzyPuke]

They're building Titus up for something big and he's an amazing anchor for the casual fans that are just getting into the Warhammer universe. Secret Level just made him even bigger!

[@Kawasaki10rr]

As someone who just started delving into Warhammer a couple months ago, it seems like GW is making Titus into the poster boy for Warhammer for the casuals, like how Master Chief is for Halo. I could be wrong since I just started getting into Warhammer but thats what it looks like

[@Chaotic_Mess_]

Perhaps knowing that Titus can withstand the powers of the warp, Leandros chose Titus specifically for this mission for that ability knowing they need to destroy a Chaos sorceror. Titus dying might just be a little bonus for him, but ultimately he's using him as he knows Titus is the only marine for the job.

[@JotapeRR]

Leandros at this point is just searching for the most gruesome death he can find.

[@Outlaw-fe2ju]

" Does someone wants Titus dead?" Me looking at Leandros

[@timothylyons5686]

Titus hid in a hammer fall bunker, You know he's not going to die as he's got a model now.