FNaF 4 Had Some Wacky Theories

Hey everyone. I'm back with another old FNaF theory video. And yeah, I'm skipping FNaF 3, but it just doesn't have any good ones tbh.

[@DMZZ_DZDM]

My favorite "Scott isn't real" theory states that Scott Cawthon is actually MatPat and he's actually just feeding into his own project as a form of infinite money glitch

[@dragonmaster834]

That 100% true you cannot convince me otherwise

[@redwiltshire1816]

Honestly if that was true I wouldn’t even be mad

[@ibis03]

​@@redwiltshire1816same

[@nothingrhymeswithorange5294]

Now hang on... There's something there

[@aaronwright485]

I unironicly used to think that

[@notlawful]

honestly none of these are any crazier than the real direction the story actually took after 4

[@aaronwright485]

True

[@Dixon_Myass]

If somebody back then theorized that "FNaF 4 is actually a psychological experiment by the purple guy to test out hallucination technology in the form of sound illusion discs on his son", it would've been the star attraction in this video.

[@devin2445]

​​@@Dixon_Myassfor real

[@weepashbp2270]

​@@Dixon_Myassno way that is the canon explanation

[@Dixon_Myass]

@@weepashbp2270 It's never been officially confirmed to my knowledge, though there is evidence to support it. Particularly in Sister Location. It kinda felt like an attempt by Scott to disprove the dream theory by saying that FNaF 4 did to some degree happen.

[@debit_vr]

my theory is that everytime matpat gets something right he changes the lore

[@MickyTankBank]

Best theory ever.

[@justineberlein5916]

I thought that one was confirmed. Or at least Scott seems to be the sort of person who considers it a failing as a creator if your story makes enough sense that people can follow your story and predict what's going to happen, so he changes it whenever someone gets it right

[@sixfootjulian]

i’m pretty sure in either a old interview or a old tweet scott said something about either that he does do that sometimes a s a joke or that he said for the first few games he lead off some of matpats ideas

[@Zer0Main43]

Sisyphus pushing the boulder but it’s MatPat GameTheory trying to solve Five Night at Freddy

[@AnamikaTheWolf]

I mean, Scott has said that Matthew Patthew sometimes "inconveniences him with his theories." not sure what else that could be getting at.

[@goji3908]

I think that Nightmare is inside of Fredbear is your own theory

[@user-dk6vb5vb6b]

same

[@Catman441.2]

Box has evans body

[@LittlestofBiscuits]

I’m into the idea that Nightmare represents Death itself, especially when you put Nightmarionne in his place. The Marionette over the course of the series represents giving life. And so by contrast, this twisted, nightmarish version of her represents taking life. The bringer of death.

[@ScuttleBugReal]

For me I see it as this Everyone sees death differently in FNaF, for the bite victim it’s Nightmare, a representation of what killed him. But for William, it’s Nightmarionne, a grim reminder of his first victim.

[@monkey_beam_]

@@ScuttleBugReal for me i see it as William sees nothing such as death.. hes too busy coming back 💀

[@TheMayoIsRaw]

@@monkey_beam_nuh uh. THE MIMI-

[@LucasTF]

Scott Cawthon has never once moved in video. It is always only pictures. He did not even appear in the interviews for his own movie. Honestly, the theory that Scott Cawthon is not real has a lot of merit. Hm

[@FrostedOven]

better theory, matpat is scott cawthon

[@Peyatoe]

@@FrostedOvenwe finally have figured it all out guys

[@waggieentertainment9387]

Scott Cawthon is Mr Chipper bc both don’t move on camera

[@Matmania69420]

And almost everytime he takes pictures with fans he's doig the same pose... i think we are onto something here bois

[@Bonkpunktexe]

@@Matmania69420 scott is just a VERY advanced ai generated image that can infect other images (hence appearing in fan photos) but he hasnt advanced to the point of animation yet

[@gechoman44iwantahippo]

I’ve believed that Nightmarionne was supposed to be named Nightmarionette, and Scott changed it because he couldn’t comfortably fit the full name on the screen in the extras menu, since the game released.

[@Matmania69420]

I think he also changed it to have the name end on an "E" like "Nightmare", hence why he even doubled the "N"

[@gechoman44iwantahippo]

@Matmania69420 I think he spelled it that way because it was the only way he could change it without it looking dumb.

[@dominicballinger6536]

Ah yes, because one less letter makes it 1000% better fitting in the screen lmao

[@halionextra]

@@dominicballinger6536 It seems like you can't count

[@dominicballinger6536]

@@halionextra true

[@taibasarovadil]

Scott Cawthon is actually Todd Howard Next fnaf game will be an open world shooter with rpg elements and horse armor

[@alvsenbeekmagambetov9124]

Fnaf world?

[@emi_is_absent]

I mean, ⅓ ain't bad

[@emi_is_absent]

Wait this is actually ⅔ right considering Freddy in Space

[@madamplatypus313]

For me the weirdest part of FNAF4 theories will always be MatPat just refusing to accept the Crying Child died for some reason. My sister went on the most epic rant ever to me about it, it was glorious.

[@jellybeans3974]

Lol

[@mon_moi]

Are you referring to the MikeVictim theories? Yeah it frustrated me too, because it was a time in the fandom when people figured out that Golden Freddy's ghost name is Cassidy, but also thought that Crying Child is Michael Afton somehow. I couldn't disprove it with evidence at the time but I had a gut feeling that it was not correct.

[@gegobuju6326]

I remember me and my friends arguing about the lore of these games and telling theories in school. One of my favourites that I remember someone telling me was that Scott Cawton is purple guy, and that he inserted himself into the game as a killer. The reason is that the pictures on the walls of the fnaf 4 house are apparently Scott's family photos. Kinda goofy and underwhelming, but it felt like we had figured it out

[@redwiltshire1816]

Nah Scott is definitely d.b copper and this is all an analogy for the plane heist

[@Bonkpunktexe]

@@redwiltshire1816 if he was db cooper he would have done the plane heist at the age of 7. but dont let that stop you from believing it, he just wants you to think he would have been too young when he in actuality was just a genius plane robber before he even turned 10

[@tortellium3750]

Scott is Michael Afton and his son is William Afton. He switched them so that it would confuse us. Nice try Scott!!

[@Bonkpunktexe]

@@tortellium3750 omg your mind... you have solved fnaf lore!

[@malachioom]

That's kind of wild because from what I remember, we didn't even know for quite a while that the fnaf 4 kid was purple guy's son

[@megafan1137]

My favorite thing about the "Halloween Update is canon" theory is the fact that originally Scott said that none of the animatronics were canon; except Nightmare BB for some reason.

[@ironball2847]

UCN implies that Nightmare is William Afton's malice, materialized. "I am your wickedness... made of flesh."

[@francescomena8181]

Calamity Ganon

[@the_flipside_world]

@@francescomena8181 yo sup fellow Zelda enjoyer

[@Darvoth]

One theory I had about FNAF 4 at the time it released that even if it’s not canon I still like was that you actually play as the older brother having guilt and trauma based nightmares.

[@Alex-mq6qi]

Given current developments in the series that theory might not even be that far fetched at all

[@Jumpyman_thegamerYT]

Considering that Michael draws a picture of Nightmare Fredbear (and a very detailed one at that), in his survival logbook (this is a separate book, obviously not in game), it seems very likely that Michael is actually the person you play as in FNAF 4. Because he has to have seen the nightmares animatronics right, to have drawn that. Also, in the Tales from the Pizzaplex book 'B-7', we learn from one of the stories that hallucinogenic gas was pumped into that room that caused the blank outer shells of these animatronics to appear as literal nightmares.

[@myprofilepictureisajoke5707]

I think you predicted the future

[@ikaiju-eu9wn]

that actually is probably true

[@melingdiab6613]

@@Jumpyman_thegamerYT Yay convoluted story that makes no sense

[@JpegErza]

“have you ever seen these two [Nightmare and Nightmare Fredbear] in the same room before?” yes, you can have them both in your doorways in Ultimate Custom Night

[@arandomalt4158]

I mean they're in different hallways so technically they aren't in the same room. You still see both of them at once though so it doesn't matter

[@ahmetkeremsekizsu8]

You can have same animatronics' older versions in ucn too ucn isnt canon

[@the_flipside_world]

@@ahmetkeremsekizsu8 UCN is canon. It's Cassidy/Andrew tormenting William

[@the_flipside_world]

@@FredrickWilhelm-ph1jb makes sense

[@trollsansofficial]

Or in the same team in FNAF world Not canon tho

[@pavlos639]

I remember one of my friends had a theory that Scott cawthon was purple guy and used the games as a way to confess his crimes without explicitly saying it

[@gameover9390]

If that were theoretically true, I assume Scott’s victims would be hitchhikers who he would pick up during his time as a Truck driver, so basically he was the American equivalent of Ivan Milat.

[@isuckatusernames4297]

for legal reasons this is only a fun theory.

[@M4t_P4tGT]

Literally Dormitabis

[@snbrinewehr3203]

As GiBi pointed out in his ~9 hour Fnaf breakdown video - Dream theory probably wasn't what Scott wanted, we all just gaslit ourselves to think that it was his original idea and that he retconned it later.

[@biggooch6631]

​@@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4ydsonichu?

[@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd]

He said GiBi so naturally I had to summon Sonichu @@biggooch6631

[@janno7214]

There's literally no other explanation for why Scott pointed out tiny toy chica missing her beak besides dream theory. It was 100% Scott's intent when making fnaf 4

[@ikaiju-eu9wn]

​@@janno7214shatter victim, bv's soul influencing future events

[@genericname2747]

​@@ikaiju-eu9wnhuh

[@EnshadowedMagician]

I remember the "you're playing as the killer" theory, but the reasoning for it was different. I think it was based on Plushtrap as a mini version of Springtrap being interpreted as a hint that the game would be about the purple guy's childhood.

[@angeygirl]

There was also the one about the Nightmares being the MCI kids getting revenge on Purple Guy by forcing him to be in their position as small and helpless. Funny thing is, that kinda happened in Ultimate Custom Night

[@ryanstiles3364]

A theory I’ve had percolating for a while is that FNAF4 retconned the bite of 87 out of existence. My main points for this is that around the time of 4s release Scott claimed he had made one retcon in the series at that point, the teasers were clearly signposting that this game was gonna be about the bite of 87 and finally that since this game came out the bite of 87 has never been elaborated on or mentioned again by any of the games.

[@colleagueriley860]

That’s apart of dream theory

[@psl109]

Tbh more than retconning it out of existence, I think it just lessened its importance. Across fnaf 1, 2 and 3, all eyes were set on the bite of 87' (see the Markiplier meme) and probably because of timeline troubles, he made the 83' bite the one with true importance lorewise, while reducing the other one to just an anecdote. From what I've read and seen online is that, at least now, the bite of 87' is widely accepted as happening to the guy we play as in fnaf 2, hence why the later nights are with another dude (theorized to be Mike).

[@Hex.A.Decimal]

I have wondered if it relocated the bite from '87 to '83. Could be THE RETCON.

[@sixfootjulian]

@@Hex.A.Decimalunless i’m wrong , isn’t phone guy the only person to really mention the bite of 87? what are the chances that he just was off by a few years and scott just threw that in there to throw us off

[@Hex.A.Decimal]

@@sixfootjulian Yep. And in the website source code teasers for FNaF 4, it kept switching between 83 and 87 over and over.

[@user-ok8lh8fu2p]

honestly FNaF4 had the wildest theories because it’s literally the most confusing games in the series. to this day, it’s a thorn in the side of theorists because of it’s vague nature

[@gammalaw_king6752]

Imagine on fnaf’s 10th anniversary Scott reveals what’s inside the box and it turns out to be another box. Than we have to wait another 10 years to find out what’s in that box

[@M4t_P4tGT]

And… it’s another box.

[@Victorion_The_Gacha_Fairy]

@@M4t_P4tGT and then another box

[@KittyCake_421]

I remember seeing a theory that was like the coma theory. It was that the game took place in a hospital room, and occurred after the crying child was bitten (hence why you’re in the hospital, he was also in a coma in this theory) C.C has nightmares that he’s in his bedroom and the nightmare animatronics attack him. The evidence for this theory is that you can sometimes see a pill bottle and a flower vase on the nightstand, things seen in hospital rooms.

[@Ben-zg8xk]

I hated that they ignored the fact that you were clearly in a bedroom

[@sunthorn4782]

That was a very common theory. I think it was intended when Fnaf 4 released but got retconned out of existence

[@ChuckThat]

wasnt that by mat pat

[@norbertbluhm6999]

​@@ChuckThat Believe it or not, but not every theory is by that smug from GT

[@redwiltshire1816]

@@norbertbluhm6999dream theory was his tho and Matt definitely isn’t smug by any means

[@Harrazel]

my theory for fnaf 4 is that all of this is happening because of terrible feng shui, because what even is that room layout? two doors? bed STRAIGHT in the middle????

[@debit_vr]

Move the bed to the corner, that desk on the right of the bed? stick it on the roof. Pick up the entire fuckin closet, and move it on-top of the bed. SO MUCH MORE ROOM!!!

[@arthurdias6860]

Ok sir you just eon the internet

[@isuckatusernames4297]

ah, an immortal cultivator.

[@chillfactory9000]

no wonder the kid is suffering nightmares. that room is MESSSSEEEDD up

[@SoloQ.]

I guess the afton’s haven’t bothered moving out of their 1800s mansion

[@freeuploads4290]

That Spongebob reference caught me really off guard.

[@boxylemons7961]

I don’t really see how nightmare being death is retconned. We know the crying child is most likely still dead even in the current canon so nightmare being symbolically the grim reaper I can see still being canon

[@COOLERthenU]

The theory was supposed to be nightmare as DEATH straight up, the concpht of the reaper given a form. Tho the symbolism is pretty obvuis

[@Prauwlet213]

I love how he just skips over fnaf 3 because basically everything about it is revealed in the game.

[@gamerweeb1]

Dream Theory was NEVER planned by Scott. Scott said he only made one retcon before FNAF 6, and it was a small, seamless thing that almost nobody noticed. I highly recommend looking up the "FreeVictim" theory. I think it is the best explanation of what was going on in FNAF 4. It explains the Clock quest in FNAF World, which is directly linked to the Bite Victim and the Happiest Day minigames in FNAF 3. It also lines up very well with the Fazbear Frights books (in which a dead child named Jake uses his happy memories to set another child's soul fee).

[@Anonyomus_commenter]

Scott has a weird definition of retcon. According to Scott, it’s only a retcon if it is changing directly stated information- it’s probably something like Charlie being a girl not a boy as stated in save him vs security puppet. According to Scott, changing his plans for the story after hinting at his old ones is not a retcon, for example he has changed what he intends to be in the box like 3 times

[@rosestar1324]

There was actually some good evidence supporting dream theory/coma theory. And even the fact that many people hate it thus Scott changing it to not disappoint his fans

[@willpi6413]

@@rosestar1324ya but I’ve also good theories on how dream theory was never the intention more recently so I, tending to believe those. And this is coming from someone who used to heavily believe dream theory

[@gameover9390]

Free victim where can I find this on KZbin or reddit or somewhere else on the internet? Also I can’t help but mention how it reminds of a theory done by KZbinr named teddybear87(I have no clue what happened to him, but he deleted all his accounts and videos, last I heard of him he had beef with zombiewar7 or something like that, note this was before the you know.)

[@butttpooop4107]

It really bothers me that a lot of people can’t accept that they didn’t figure it out so they’ll vehemently believe that they did and that it must have been a retcon. And then KZbinrs continue to parrot the idea for no reason

[@LecchanSkandra]

I miss the old theory days...

[@nextorm926]

I was literally just watching the first video and this comes out. What a coincidence. Keep up the good work!!!

[@HoundodHell312]

Dude same

[@pastapeez7464]

me too!

[@Hourglasstwins4ByLater]

Same wth🤯

[@PaulvonPaulus]

Same here man!

[@feddyfeller]

Same!

[@chainmengaming]

One theory that I had is kinda similar to the dream theory, but instead of the whole series taking place in a dream, it's just this game and it's night segments. Still completely unsure how William Afton would make animatronics like this, or even why.

[@the_flipside_world]

so you see, due to a Sound Illusion Disk in Sister Location, UCN's Nightmare Animatronics voicelines and Dittophobia from Tales From The Pizzaplex (which I don't believe it's canon but that's irrelevant), William DID make the Nightmare animatronics at some point in the timeline, the most likely reason as to WHY, is that he's experimenting or punishing his kids

[@the_flipside_world]

@@FredrickWilhelm-ph1jb yeah that doesn't make sense but it definetly happened

[@the_flipside_world]

@@FredrickWilhelm-ph1jb remember, he made the Funtimes to kill children when he could just do it himself, he's definetly unefficient

[@acidiclouds]

THISS, why does nobody consider that only this game is CC's nightmares? The flowers on the table, the design of the nightmare animatronics, the fact that you are the height of a kid when you come up to the door (meaning you play as CC) all point to it being CC's hospital bed dreams, it doesn't mean all other games are also not real. The only thing bothering me about this is the fact that Michael drew Nightmare in his security logbook, because how would he know what Nightmare looks like if FNAF 4 is CC's nightmares?

[@the_flipside_world]

@@acidiclouds that's because FNAF 4 is MICHAEL'S nightmare

[@damkylan3]

We do not *know* that Dream Theory was retconned. That's a popular assumption, but there is nothing to suggest that from anything Scott has said. A lot of what people assume to be proof of that is misconceptions and misinterpretations of what he actually said. The thing is, a lot of the weird connections in FNAF4 actually tie back to the FNAF3 minigames, symbolically and visually. Leading to the idea that those events still happened, and CC's memories were key to Happiest Day, which FNAF World later supported, and is a popular idea today with the direction Scott took with memories of souls and all that in the books. So it seems more likely that Scott already had a general idea for the worldbuilding of his series, but he was too vague about it, as he now admits.

[@zodiac3616]

In fnaf sister location, its confirmed theyre real

[@damkylan3]

@@zodiac3616 What were confirmed real?

[@zodiac3616]

@@damkylan3 that the nightmare animatronics are real

[@Jumpyman_thegamerYT]

@@zodiac3616 Also, in the Tales from the Pizzaplex book 'B-7' it says this too.

[@damkylan3]

​@@zodiac3616 Ah. Yeah, to an extent, though we only learned this year how the testing chamber worked. They were "real" in the sense that they were projections of mannequins. FNAF4's gameplay sections is most likely still a dream, though, for a bunch of other reasons.

[@NorthBoiX]

Can't wait for SL, it'll be interesting seeing you talking about miketrap

[@cawsomeaolin]

the crying child growing up to become william afton is pretty interesting tho in my opinion

[@the_flipside_world]

yeah... the only problem is that he's DEAD

[@TotalDramaHarold]

@@the_flipside_worldisn’t William also dead

[@the_flipside_world]

@@TotalDramaHarold kind of, as he's Glitchtrap and Burntrap as well

[@capybara455]

​@@TotalDramaHaroldwhat are you doing here

[@lostgem8225]

​@@the_flipside_worldhasn't stopped the aftons before-

[@juanlilg2868]

That Patrick impression is on point

[@schnozcomplex4137]

The section at 6:05 gave me a mini heart attack since I remember posting a really similar theory to reddit before FNAF 4 dropped, with really the only different point being that the spirits within the anamatroics would be the MCI kids, not Crying Child

[@lilaniloxi]

Ngl? I like the concept of it

[@Cherushi_i]

my personal headcanon with the halloween dlc being canon is that the base game is the crying childs nightmares, while the dlc is michaels nightmares. i doubt this is intended to be true in any way, but it explains how michael would know about nightmare fredbear in the logbook. hell, this is a big stretch, but given how he's a remnant zombie, maybe bonnie and chica are burning on the inside due to a fear of fire, since fire is remnants main weakness.

[@the_flipside_world]

I think Nightmarionne replaced both Nightmare Fredbear and Nightmare iirc, so unfortunately, this isn't the case

[@jakedoesyoutube]

Nightmare being literally death is kinda fitting and made complete sense until it got retconned.

[@Trey1565]

The SpongeBob box episode reference is the funniest thing in any Fnaf video I’ve ever seen

[@KirboYT]

If you want something for SL theories, here's one I had before the game came out: Funtime Freddy and Foxy are Toy Freddy and Fixed Mangle, it's a pretty lame theory I know but I was like 11. Basically I had an idea that after the FNAF 2 location closed, two of the animatronics were taken out and repurposed. Actually, I think it might've been the other way around. One of the teaser images for SL mentioned a cancelation due to gas leaks, and mentioned things being taken out of the building. Tiny child me decided that it was Funtime Freddy and Foxy being taken out and taken to the FNAF 2 location.

[@Bonkpunktexe]

the idea that the cupcake was the killer is just so ectremely funny imo. as a kid i at one point also joked that the reason why the animatronics attacked you was because the cupcake was the killer, and you as the security guard was protecting the cupcake or was standing between the cupcake and the animatronics (and possibly wearing a cupcake costume idk) and seeing a theory that the crying child was the cupcake and was turned into it after killing the kids just gave me the funniest flashback ever. that theory wasnt mine btw, it was just weirdly similar to my joke theory

[@Joskilani]

Mini Marvel Theory has long since disappeared from this platform? Nah, I have a feeling I'm watching his new channel right now. Lmao

[@SwaggyG_2102]

One theory that I remembered being made about FNAF 4 was its relation towards the Missing Kids case that was shown in FNAF 1 and 2, and how the 4 bullies who were in FNAF 4 were all killed by the Purple Guy as revenge for them killing his son.

[@Quackervoltz]

That actually wasn't a bad theory

[@dorkydorgi5873]

I think that the last one is this guys childhood theory. He says he can’t pinpoint an exact date (suspicious) and it comes right after he mentions that one of them is his.

[@subtocory7173]

Why did you actually sound exactly like Patrick

[@Mathee]

I remember back when this game was first announced, the "What did you bring into your home" line in the trailer really did make me believe it would be a sequel to 3 about a parent buying the salvaged animatronics at auction, and you play as the child trying to survive them. I didn't think it was true after the game came out of course, but I kinda wish that had been what the game was

[@jakubgrono9070]

That would have been sooo good, like i don't like the nighmare animatronic over the top design only one i really like it the nighmare puppet as it the mist unique but that beside the point, anyway the idea of old animatronic beraly holding themself together, scorched and burn slowly crawling to your door, with you having no way out, and you are trapped and have to fend of theis monsters and at day nobody belives you that they move and you slowly go insane thinking it just your inagination and at tge last night eaither you fend of springtrap Himself, or what at least remains of him, or an abomination of all the animatronic, and you burn them for thr last time, and the real nightmare will be finnaly over

[@box2122]

5:58 “have YOU ever seen these two in the same room before?” Yes, yes I have. In a little game called “FNAF World”. We can have both characters in the same party, and as showcased in the fredbear ending of the game, two of the same animatronic character cannot coexist at the same time. May you rest with ease now that you have definitive proof.

[@sansgirlfriend]

and fnaf ucn

[@jasperraine6104]

It would be really cool if they decide to bring back the box in a new game and open it.

[@RedPandaReal]

Nah that defeats the whole point of "some things are best left forgotten" or whatever

[@Asageun]

​@@RedPandaRealnah thats security breach

[@TheZombo]

I remember when I was younger thinking that plushtrap was what was left of springtrap after the fire and someone rebuilt him (this was before the release)

[@UltraCenterHQ]

7:08 The books kinda made this into a thing

[@ethanclark6791]

For me I kinda just isolate the story to the first 4 games. I respect 5 and 6. But I think they either answered questions of previous games in a very unsatisfying way, or made new ones that completely alter what was already “established.” Nightmare being death to me has much more emotional weight as well as the animatronics being some nightmare the kid is having in a coma. Especially considering the kids life was cut far shorter than it should’ve. The whole what, they are projections William is putting up? I don’t feel offers the same weight, or really a satisfying conclusion that could be interpreted.

[@the_flipside_world]

ngl I wish FNaF 4's nights' protagonist was The Crying Child, it would so much more satisfying

[@the_flipside_world]

@@FredrickWilhelm-ph1jb nope, it's the fnaf 1 night guard

[@HydraKittten]

awesome video! cant wait to see you cover sister location, adult theory is rough lol

[@LucasTF]

Nightmare Fredbear is Nightmare is theory you made, isn't it?

[@Idoitsgaming]

It is true because the nightmares are just sound and the sound got distorted so it'll turned into nightmare

[@watchingaccount]

I really want you to be the infamous exman productions, back to youtube once again under the pseudonym of Character History. I am not embarassed to admit I spent a few minutes trying to see if I could hear any similarities in your voice with exman productions. Though I think what is most likely is that the theory of 'Nightmare is literally death' is yours.

[@Columbina666]

Bro at 7:08 actually made me spit out my drink lol Also i aint gonna bear with you for that cupcake theory💀

[@theaxbowlotl]

I honestly still think that Nightmare is still supposed to be death, especially when looking at UCN voicelines from the perspective of Afton "You will not be spared, you will not be saved" - No one, even Afton, can avoid death forever "The shadow fears me" - Depends on if you think that "The shadow" is a personified version of one of the characters (likely Golden Freddy), or if he's speaking about a literal shadow. Either way could be interpreted as a fear of death. "I am your wickedness made of flesh" - Nightmare is claiming to be a personified version of Afton's evil, literally a symbol of death "I'm here to claim what is left of you" - Taking what remains of afton after either the fnaf 6 fire or Golden Freddy shenanigans making him essentially braindead. "I will vomit you back to relive your horror" - This one is kind of a general "I'm gonna kill you and then you'll be actually alive and then I'll kill you again" voiceline that everyone has, so I wouldn't count it actually. This makes more sense when you consider that Afton actually reuses some of Nightmare's voicelines in the AR for some reason. It's also likely that Nightmare got retconned, so now it's more like a metaphor the death caused by Afton himself, which could explain the AR game.

[@blitzes3177]

The Halloween nightmare animatronics get saved in FNAF World, after which they become canon (although I still don’t think the Halloween event in FNAF 4 is canon). Scott has said that Nightmare Balloon Boy is canon (in terms of he actually could have been there in FNAF 4) but the rest are not. The most likely explanation for this is that William Afton could have chosen to replace Plushtrap with Nightmare Balloon Boy, but chose not to. There is evidence that there are other animatronics in the rooms to the left and right of the hallway seen in the Plushtrap mini game, as seen in the Sister Location breaker room map. Funnily enough even though Nightmare is not inside the Fredbear plush, it is actually possible that the plushies we see are inside the nightmare animatronics. In the Silver Eyes graphic novel, we see an Ella doll (a doll created to replace Charley, that Henry believed housed her soul) used as a power source for the Charley bots. We see a Foxy plush and Freddy plush seemingly as the source for Nightmare Foxy and Nightmare Freddy in FNAF 4, and we see that William Afton has the Fredbear plush in Sister Location. It’s possible the Crying Child haunted the plushies he believed were his friends to a degree after his death, perhaps infusing them with remnant. This is possible as he died with them by his side. If William placed the Fredbear plushie inside Fredbear as an experiment, that could explain the “Golden Duo” theory, that posits that Cassidy and the Crying Child both inhabit the Golden Freddy animatronic. Nightmare most likely is Nightmare Fredbear. They share the same design and movements, seemingly the only difference is that Nightmare is more transparent, as the illusion is wearing off for whatever reason, enabling us to see the animatronic base beneath. The gameplay of FNAF 4 actually does most likely take place after FNAF 2 and 1, around the same time as 3. This is hinted at in the survival logbook, which is owned by Mike (most likely Micheal Afton). The gameplay of FNAF 4 is Micheal experiencing the nightmare experiments that William Afton conducted on someone (we don’t know who). We know FNAF 4 is at least partially an experiment because we see the locations in the Sister Location breaker room map, linked to Circus Baby’s rental. We know it takes place after FNAF 1 because we hear the FNAF 1 phone calls in the background of 4, meaning it did actually take place near the end of the timeline at the time of its release.

[@Hex.A.Decimal]

Crying child was Sammy, your sister was the Fredbear Plush and the Puppet, the "bullies" were your friends already stuffed and you saw dead people.

[@SCOUTPEEK]

So glad these videos are back!

[@YanntastischGER]

Can't wait to see ur video on Sister Location. I only remember adult theory. SL threw so much stuff at you, and for the first time actual dialouge, so people couldn't have had as crazy theories.... right?

[@koxiq.]

When i was like 8 when i got into fnaf and my dad bought me "the freddy files" i actually thought that fnaf 4 was a sequel to fnaf 3

[@xurkitry]

Oh god please mention the stripper club theory for sister location cause that one was so funny and was actually insane

[@The_lamb_sauce]

6:50 that’s a amazing line

[@cjthenarhwalking1378]

5:25 a relate and more probably theory is that nightmare is fredbear just with a malfunctioning illusion disc. Is supported by their similar appearances, nightmare looking see through and his smooth endoskeleton.

[@canolathra6865]

Current main theory states that fredbear and nightmare in FNAF 4 are the same character. Except that instead of taking off it's skin, it's the malfunction of a sound illusion disk.

[@angeygirl]

I'm sorry but Nightmare is Death is probably my favorite 4 theory just because it's so narratively satisfying Now that "Crying Child is haunting things from the FNaF 3 fire and thus passing his nightmares onto someone else" could be the plot to a really interesting fan fiction

[@no_george]

Literally just checked to see if the fourth one had been uploaded and wow

[@randomacts1767]

I feel like Scott Cawthon will say he will release a document of the game lore, but it’s just a bunch of old, small theories that contradict everything we have.

[@ericjohnson3140]

6:50 Made me laugh way harder than it should’ve.

[@Iamthelooksmaxxer]

The dude in the intro was straight up spitting facts

[@hurricanefnaf8498]

5:57 "Have you seen these two in the same room before?" Yes actually, in the UCN they can both simultaneously appear at your doors🤓🤓🤓

[@dominicballinger6536]

I like Matpat's theory that Nightmare actually is Nightmare Fredbear. Basically, by using some illusion discs from the books, some blank smooth animatronics were turned into the nightmares to experiment on someone. But Fredbear's malfunctioned over time and led to his new appearance.

[@deathseekr1537]

My theory is that the nightmare puppet is the FNAF universe version of the grim reaper, and it took the form of nightmare fredbear for the crying child as nightmare puppet is always watching and always there in ucn and as a plush in security breach

[@Mathtron5000]

I remember Scott saying back int he day that Nightmare Mangle and Nightmarrione were *not* canon, but Nightmare Balloon Boy *was canon*

[@biggerdec]

3:19 core memory unlocked dude LMAO. I forgot about that episode

[@birdnerd5669]

3:20 as a spongehead you made the best bill fagerbakke impression ive ever heard in my life

[@dunkendohnuts5841]

nightmare being a personification of actual death is still real to me god dammit!

[@BananaArt5803]

"Along with the rest of the halloween cast." Jack o Bonnie:👁👄👁

[@veryepoc6949]

The Loading screen gives me the nostalgic ness of the terror of fnaf..

[@BidinkGameZ]

I think the theory he made was the “nightmare is inside nightmare fredbear” theory

[@amber_person]

Nope, it's cupcake one :P

[@theend-nz6vs]

Nightmare can be a embodiment of both death and the corruption of memories caused by a dying mind due to how nightmare looks exactly like nightmare fredbear just different color meaning the CC confronted a twisted mockery of something meant to be kid friendly that caused all of his suffering

[@JimfromWisconsin]

That Patrick joke was good

[@main7168]

i saw this in another comment section, but this one's about nightmare basically, it said something along the lines of how nightmare, being the transparent darker reskin of nightmare fredbear, is just the vague silhouette of the thing that bit the crying child, and the jumpscare being a still image with a warped siren in the back represents the last train of thought in the nightmares of a kid who's dying made me like nightmare

[@Duck_duck_QUACK]

5:43 This theory is true in a way, some people think the illusion disks are what made the nightmares and that the nightmares aren’t real and during night 8 fredbears starts to glitch causing use to see him as nightmare

[@jorbertfivesevenaetree5043]

I don't believe that the Halloween update itself was cannon (Other that BB which Scott approved back then for some reason?) but the characters in it were made up by Fazbear Entertainment for merchandise. Also, another theory I saw back then from before the game came out was that the Puppet was in the game. The proof was how in the trailer, you could see him running away outside of the right hallway when you peeked out the door. This was obviously Chica's reflection in hindsight, but I also remember something about the window in the Plushtrap teaser.

[@cookimaus1]

I remember making a short little theory about what was in the box, and I thought maybe it could be the crying childs body

[@matthewmarchetti5395]

0:16 Honestly though this was going to be a blackface joke.

[@TOS_563.]

3:24 I really wasn’t expecting that lol

[@Thefrogbread]

Cheedburdger

[@L0g0Z0g0]

the "last game" theory is partly true since reversing the sounds we hear phone guy from fnaf one which means it's nightmares during Mike working there

[@sunkdid7256]

That intro theory was kind of a good theory ngl.

[@MadderMaDDog]

Dude I just remembered watching a theory that the crying chairs was in the box to symbolize the dream theory or something along those lines

[@sansundertale9000]

3:48 merry Christmas cb

[@Eevee860]

There was no retcon, fnaf 4 was never a dream, that's why scott refused to show what was in the box, because no one guessed it was Mike seeing his childhood memories of his dad's house mixed with remnant memories of children who suffered there by being hunted by twisted animatronics

[@Some_random_Stickman]

The box is a toy box full of pictures and incidents crying of child’s memories and Michael Afton and remnant was not in FNAF 4 until FNAF sister location

[@Some_random_Stickman]

And the nightmare animatronics were retconned to be the twisted animatronics

[@Montagne1234]

Imagine Todd Howard reveals the fnaf/starfield crossover

[@kyleevison8889]

I remember a dumb theory that I made was that all of the animatronics from the start of fnaf one are progressively being dismantled and redsigned. I remember I was about 8 or 9 when all the fnaf games came out so I made up some really stupid things with me not noticing any clues in the games, but I honestly thought this was true with fnaf 1 being the start, fnaf 2 was after fnaf with either the animatronics being dismantled or new, fnaf 3 had the animatronics had some type of accident with the area with what I thought was gas being on the animatronics with springtrap being a very decayed one, and then fnaf 4 is just with a child getting scared from the animatronics being dismantled but redesigned from something. I kind of didn’t end up believing this theory a few years later with my brain getting progressively smarter and not being interested in fnaf as time went on, but it was an incredibly dumb theory I made, just thought I mention.

[@lemonsmug]

Ship of Thesius ass theory

[@alexanderclass1244]

Im betting my money that the last theory is the one he believed

[@Splatooty]

5:01 I still think this theory is canon specifically for the reasons you presented: 5, if 5 isn’t all of them, of the Halloween Animatronics appear in another game down the line. Then being UCN and Help Wanted. With Nightmarionne the only one of the 5 Halloween Reskins to appear in both Security Breach and Ruin.

[@kaineandrews3790]

The problem is that, according to Help Wanted, the “rogue indie developer” made a bunch of games that got popular and made light of the incidents surrounding Fredbear’s/Fazbear, with the implication that those games are either in-universe versions of the games we’ve been playing all along or close enough as to make no difference. That means, whether they were actually real at any point or not, in-universe people have seen and heard of things like Nightmarionne, meaning merchandising opportunities are afoot. Given that Help Wanted isn’t “real” - just another in-universe game - and you only see the “non-canon” animatronics as toys in Security Breach and Ruin, it doesn’t mean much. UCN having the Halloween bunch as actual dangerous animatronics doesn’t mean a whole lot either, since it’s Golden Freddy’s torture room for Afton; presumably, GF can conjure up whatever nightmares he/she/they want to torture their killer, and either GF or Afton might have seen/heard of the rogue indie dev’s efforts or the real indie dev just used the designs as recognizable visual shorthand for what’s after Billy Boy. Much like the Steel Wool games, it doesn’t prove Nightmarionne and Co. were ever “real.”

[@maddyheil2193]

this is the first video of yours i’ve seen and for a second i really thought you were the guy in the intro

[@ZillaXVI]

The beggining theory in the intro is kinda true nightmare is just Fredbear but harder and also see through because Fredbear’s audio disc is malfunctioning

[@Honey_Katz]

Dream theory was never supposed to be the answer, no idea where people saying this came from all of the sudden.

[@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4yd]

That's why to me FNAF4 is just a story after thought, the real impact, pay off and ending of it all for me was FNAF 3.