charlie puth still sucks

charlie puth’s new album …is not very good. despite his obvious talent, he seems to be struggling.
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[@letBIGGIErest]

it's honestly embarrassing for someone whose entire brand is having perfect pitch and being a musical prodigy to make such aggressively mediocre music.

[@JustinGone]

That whole pitch perfect thing is a gimmick.

[@ButterscotchBlonde]

Exactly what I was gonna say. Like how can your music be that bad?! Just goes to show being an artist isn’t just about vocals.

[@ichirinohana93]

Exactly

[@thesheassheis]

@@JustinGone how can does someone fake a perfect pitch?? ////genuine

[@Neighbourhooddegenerate]

@@thesheassheis someone like Brandy, in my opinion, has perfect pitch in then many vocal layers and background harmonies she's able to create but she doesn't yell about that on the roof tops.

[@luigifarts]

i have to be honest, the songs on voicenotes individually are SO GOOD, as an album maybe it’s not that pleasant but he’s talented, just extremely tacky and attention seeking

[@majelalover8837]

He does everything himself, Songwriting, production and all that jazz, yes he somehow decides to put out cheap radio songs

[@itsbonkerjojo9028]

Why would you even put that last statement ? Some artist can be like Charlie puth for what he is .

[@preposteroussvideos]

@@itsbonkerjojo9028 cause it's true

[@itsbonkerjojo9028]

@@preposteroussvideos oh ok

[@jonathanlewis2070]

no he‘s just random singer

[@magicmicah05]

Charlie has so much talent up his sleeve, so why is he wasting it on making milquetoaste, poorly written music?

[@claudettelol]

probably because he wants it to go viral on tik tok, rather than create good bodies of work

[@baltax30]

because that pays the bills. it's an industry, making poorly written music works, If he decides to change to a music style different from what we're used to hear from them he'll definitely flop.

[@nyny2263]

Because ever since TikTok came out artist have been pandering to it , they make so-so songs that kids can dance to and it goes viral 🤷🏽‍♀️ Charlie Puth wasn't the first and definitely won't be the last .

[@mysterylover9546]

Because he’s s are dog taking risks and not getting the attention of mainstream audiences or TikTok

[@NightOwlOfMiami]

Easy to talk shit when you can't make music yourself. At least he knows how to make music, unlike the untalented trashy cardi b's of today. I bet you'd rather listen to her bullshit than Charlie's REAL music

[@KNHarrison125]

Considering how talented he is and how he is capable of making hits for others like Trey Songz's Slow Motion and 5SOS's Easier, it's weird he can't make hits for himself. It's like all of the creativity goes out the window. I remember seeing someone on TikTok mention how Charlie makes super bland music and Charlie duetted the video and pointed out a few tracks on Voicenotes that have substance and high production quality. And that right there leads me to believe that he's aware he could do better, but just doesn't.

[@charlottepollard-prior9482]

@I'm known to humble people for good the white chocolate guy 💀

[@hotsexyangel]

Maybe it’s cuz he wants to please other people so he focuses on what he _thinks_ the public wants to hear, instead of just doing what he wants.. just a guess

[@tiaraw872]

It’s like that a lot of song writers & producers. Not just him

[@buteratellme7194]

He's only good as producer not as an artist nor performer. His voice is so autotuned and he has no stage presence.

[@rizkyrobianto1106]

@I'm known to humble people for good As far as i know, her label won’t let her releasing her own written music.

[@Gman1998]

He clearly has a good understanding of the technical side of music, but it’s also important to have more creativity so that each song isn’t so bland and square

[@dotcom3015]

He’s probably more intuitive than technical. According to people that took his class, he just goes by feeling and isn’t able to elaborate his choices during production.

[@ludameri1384]

I think it's his personality that throws me off, he is a good musicisan but that's his entire personality, like there's nothing else there. The only reason we know he has perfect pitch is because he (and the media) won't stop talking about it. You know who also has perfect pitch? Shakira. But she doesn't make that her entire personality so people are not aware of it

[@Gman1998]

Exactly. He makes a big deal about how he uses his perfect pitch to make his music, but the music itself is very square

[@ButterscotchBlonde]

Right. I mean for having perfect pitch, I don’t really even enjoy his voice. It’s so bland, robotic, and uninspiring. Maybe the perfect pitch is actually a curse rather than a gift.

[@CocoJuiceee]

I thought I was the only one who found this a bit odd…

[@rellarella3011]

What’s funny is someone could fart and he’ll make a beat out of it

[@MajorOctofuss]

So can anyone who has used garageband once

[@JustinGone]

Please don’t give him any ideas.

[@the-berries-and-cream-dude]

I think he is a good songwriter when he makes music for other people. But I don’t think he has that “x factor” that’s gonna make him an amazing artist especially now that he caters to TikTok. He’s the kind of guy who does better behind the scenes.

[@316zaul]

@I'm known to humble people for good LMAOOO it’s true

[@psychomaia]

He hasn’t got the rhythm

[@ordersoldier8225]

Jst listen to "attention" "we dont talk anymore" "see you again" "how long" and the voicenotes album and you will take back ur last sentence.

[@cupidream9702]

@@ordersoldier8225 He could’ve given those songs to others and it still would’ve been good. It’s not exactly extremely unique or something that is known by him. It wouldn’t have mattered if he sang it or someone else did

[@samibichumani1176]

Nope. The thing is we people like instrumentals. He made good instrumentals for others like in STAY & Harley's in Hawaii but whereas when it comes to his own album. He has very short instrumental in tears on my piano. Remember his all hits. See you again, We don't talk anymore, Attention. All had lengthy instrumentals. And my my gosh We don't talk anymore instrumental in the middle was so long and sexy. But now it simple straightforward voical

[@jlo2715]

For me, Charlie Puth is so inoffensive and too much of a non-presence to really register that he’s actually more than a songwriter for other artists

[@littlelou050]

this is good. this is it. he just doesn't have much of an identity. i would say most of his stuff is generic but it would do better if he tried. i think he's just focused on being relevant enough. he doesn't necessarily care about his music. which is a shame because he could easily be one of the top artists in the game. he could be everywhere. he feels more like an influencer now. like making some mildly interesting tiktok content is just what fits. he fits into the grey with the rest of the no personality gang. another thing is i hate how much autotune he's been using recently. grates on me man. 😬

[@docvince1491]

Nothing he ever writes will be worse than “Let’s Marvin Gaye and get it on!”

[@velvet4299]

Oh my gosh yes it was so horrible 😭😭

[@kait7404]

I actually liked that song back then😭😭

[@barbielagrande98]

Yes that Is the worst song from him. Charlie Is a great album dont throw shade

[@dannydamnmendez]

Charlie Puth and Meghan Trainor are the last people that should be referencing one of the greatest soul artists of all time in a song so soulless

[@abzster]

I don’t think he wrote it tho did he? Like his first album

[@kevinsbiscuitsnjelly8193]

I really think Charlie Puth might suffer from 'Imposter syndrome'. He's able to write and produce better for other artist's like Pitbull, Maroon 5, Jason Derulo etc. because he can artistically express himself (vicariously) thru them. But it's a hit or miss for himself as u said. He struggles to unleash himself ABOUT himself due to his "inner stranger" if that makes sense 🤷🏽‍♂️😓

[@samibichumani1176]

Nope. The thing is we people like instrumentals. He made good instrumentals for others like in STAY & Harley's in Hawaii but whereas when it comes to his own album. He has very short instrumental in tears on my piano. Remember his all hits. See you again, We don't talk anymore, Attention. All had lengthy instrumentals. And my my gosh We don't talk anymore instrumental in the middle was so long and sexy. But now it simple straightforward voical

[@samibichumani1176]

I don't know why he made instrumental for STAY and didn't make any for himself! When he made it did became hit. Like in See You Again, WDTA and Attention.

[@kevinsbiscuitsnjelly8193]

​@@samibichumani1176 Oh yeah! The Instrumentals to those are definitely better than what he's been recording for himself lol. But I think that's cuz alot of those Big hits, he was teamed up during production. Say Pharrell might provide the beat '808'/snare etc. to make ur head bop on the song, but Charlie produces the chords, strings, piano and even writes the hook, so he gets the larger credit even tho he had help. If weak instrumentals are the reason for his own songs downfall, then he needs to work with the same producers he teamed up with to produce other Artists 👍🏽.

[@montyjohnn2826]

Agreed

[@emmarose1845]

I wish that he did slow motion for himself

[@nella_paulina]

Attention and we don't talk anymore are the only 2 songs I can get behind, everything else sounds so bad, which makes no sense, because he's clearly very very talented

[@JustinGone]

Literally his only good songs lol.

[@icephoenix1932]

It's Attention and See You Again for me

[@justjoannak]

That's Hilarious is decent but mostly agree

[@slayingfire2007]

What abt how long

[@JustinGone]

@@slayingfire2007 it’s fine. Listen to How Long by Ace. Much better.

[@claudettelol]

honestly, he is heading towards a direction that caters to being viral on tik tok, rather than creating good music

[@littlelou050]

he's already there. unfortunately. and he's not even the massive kind yet. he has gotten things trending but he's not necessarily that memorable on the platform either. like he's still bubbling just under the surface like he is in pop.

[@heymistercarter.]

Todd in the Shadows said recently that he views there being two types of pop stars. The first is the kind who’ll always have enough force of personality and such a devoted following that they’ll always be able to wear the ups and downs of their career and have people keep coming back after each release (such as Jay-Z, Beyonce, Lady GaGa, and The Weeknd). The second type are the ones who have a more flash-in-the-pan appeal and will only have success while they have good or catchy songs, then will disappear once the hits stop (such as Nelly, Paula Abdul, and Katy Perry). If that theory is true, Charlie Puth falls into the second category for me. He doesn’t seem to have a strong enough personality to last him outside of hit songs, and he doesn’t seem to have the following to back him once he stops having hits. He does have talent, but he doesn’t seem to know what to do as of now.

[@nootnewt9323]

For me Beyoncé hasn’t had a good album since Beyoncé but she has the appeal that fans of hers will always return even if her music is mid. I forget that Charlie Puth exists which is a shame because he as potential to be the kind of artist people will return to.

[@twannifufu]

Great analysis

[@antbing1831]

@@nootnewt9323 not even the critically acclaimed lemonade?? 😭

[@anushkakulkarni112]

@@nootnewt9323 lemonade isnt a good album??

[@m00nrac00n]

He has no personality outside of "The Musician" which does not work cuz everybody in the scene is a musician. People like Gaga and Weeknd have an aristic vision outside of music they portray through music, not the other way around.

[@m.b.9916]

“If I don’t get a review, I get sad” so basically he needs people to talk about him or he gets upset Edit: for those saying “he’s an artist, of course he wants outside validation” where I’m coming from is: a lot of people do it for self-fulfillment or as a type of therapy. Not everything is about other people’s opinions. Sometimes it’s about filling your own cup.

[@hmmm4427]

I think that he simply wants feedback so he can improve imo

[@m.b.9916]

@@hmmm4427 in my opinion, you need to be happy with your work without needing outside affirmation, but that may just be me.

[@maenad1231]

@@m.b.9916 It kinda did seem like an attention ≠ validation thing. I Know some people like that and it kinda seems like they can’t help it because they don’t even realize why they dislike not getting reviews/attention

[@galitzinee]

@@m.b.9916 being happy with your work is not the same as blindly believing that it is flawless. wanting a feedback suggests that you want some constructive criticism towards your work so you can improve. why? because you love your work and want to get better at it.

[@courtneylong3358]

Would you say maybe he just.... Wants attention? I'll see myself out

[@nissi154]

Charlie is extremely talented, I just think the music he put outs comes off generic and tacky sometimes. I liked the last album he put out but it isn’t his best work. Voicenotes is actually my fav album from him.

[@ludameri1384]

It sounds like a content farm for music, making music just so he can say he did it

[@evermorepyt]

Likewise

[@tashibalampkin8555]

A lot of artists are making songs that are made for tik tok. Which I get, gotta get those streams. However, if one's gonna treat their music as a tik tok trend, then be prepared for how fast people move one from it. As that's how tik tok trends are usually treated.

[@emilionema]

that's exactly it

[@JustinGone]

This is the comment.

[@parky7417]

SORRY FOR THE PARAGRAPH. HOPE this helps you understand a bit more. the thing is. if youre not a charlie puth fan you wont really get him... yk? hes alr stated everything that would cover everyong hating on his new album (besides fans obviously). He didnt/doesnt really expect it to be insane or wtv and pull many views, but there are multiple reasons why he did everyhitn like this. #1: u can make music from practically anything and wanted the audience to feel involved which is WHY he did everything on tiktok as a platform. #2 he made this song to put it out there and have unique elements and make an ALBUM about HIM since hes enver done that + he really jsut cares if ppl who do care and watch it, if it resonates with them or if they can walk around singing along and wtv #3 the reason he doesnt make "better" songs is bc hes a pop musician. hes gonna make music that falls in the genre of pop music + wtv other reason. he said he can definitely make a song that has super interesting and crazy chord progressions and shit like an "e flat major 711 upside down fucking wtv" but thats not gonna produce a song that EVERYONE can sing along to and enjoy and understand.

[@parky7417]

OFC: some songs even as a charlie puth i admittedly DO NOT LIKE that much like Left and Right and Smells Like Me, but man in a concert setting the songs "give" so much more into it and its really enjoyable imo. Most of the songs of his new album i pretty much like it or really like it, hwoever there are still some songs besides the two i alr named that arent the greatest BUT i really love how in those songs i can hear a couple seconds of something that i find really interesting and unique or a part that has really good vocals yk?

[@chaasadfearing]

That title pulled me in 😂

[@MadiBendy]

I don’t mind charlie. I’ve never cared for his music but I still hope he does well.

[@Lauren_567]

Wow I didn't know he was 30 years old.

[@shi_.]

he needs to tone it down with the autotune cus holy shit

[@noproblems3192]

No cause I’m listening right now and the auto tune is too much!

[@mirfangu]

fr

[@almostgodgamingval]

@@noproblems3192 yeah, I think he is insecure or something about his voice or something

[@parky7417]

​@@almostgodgamingval sorry for the Paragraph. READ THE FIRST SENTENCE AFTER THIS AND TEH LAST IF U WANT SHORT SUMMARY. he is insecure. but if youve seen interviews and him singing with little or no autotune he def can sing just some songs he sings in different keys or drops it an octave or else itll sound raspy and not as clean as the produced version. also he has perfect pitch so to him not being able to sing every note perfectly or at least the right notes and being flat in areas would def be annyoing for him. plus he has stated in one of his tiktoks before that ofc he can do more than what he is doing, but he rather put out "decent" "good" or "trash" pop music that can get out his message easier and make it so that ppl can sing along to it than a song with multiple chord progressions with an "e flat major 7 11 upside down fuckin whatever" (which was almost word for word waht he said as a joke) to make his songs sound different or wtv ppl other reasons ppl have for disliking his songs. Basically charlie wants msg out + hes a pop artist so he makes (in my biased opinion) really good pop songs to convey those messages, HOWEVER he COULD most definitely write some classical or very complex song but make it almost impossible to make it an actual song ppl understand or sing along with. Also, the reason ppl Like me LOVE his songs is because if you dig deeper into them theres some parts that i really appreciate in a song and he knows how to make me love his songs instantly (at least for me and others like me). And this recent album, he said he made it kinda targeted towards an audience that wants to hear this typa music (breakup, sad, pop, unique elements) + that he doesnt really care if not a lot of ppl hear it as long as it resonates with the people who do care.

[@almostgodgamingval]

@@parky7417 absolutely agree

[@xoxo2450]

I always think half of his songs are by Shawn Mendes lol

[@gem9811]

I used to not be able to tell the difference between the two of them 😂

[@hassanmansour9857]

Both bland af

[@FnadRockss]

I can't think of a memorable song of Shawn Mendes and that makes me sad haha

[@danielpatternson6149]

personally I think Shawn's better but that's just me

[@Gregnolaa]

I feel the same. He has an amazing voice and talent. But he stays within the same box/sound in everything he does. We need a sound that really takes a risk.

[@nojolie]

Its weird because he comes across as super talented yet completely uncreative, I always think of him as a musical genius who makes extremely mediocre music lol

[@Chuu_Vault]

The Anti-Hero joke....chef's kiss

[@davidperrii]

Honestly this kinda goes into what Stevie Mackey said once, that hitting the specific note is great and amazing from a technical aspect, but too much focus on it can cause someone to be devoid of soul

[@coryxkenshinsbonet4212]

PLZ THE WAY ME AND MY PARENTS WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT HIM! 🏃🏾‍♀️

[@sasukeseal]

I also was disappointed by the album considering like loved Attention, Mother, Girlfriend, and Cheating on you. I thought these were lead up to his albums just to see none of them on there 😢

[@auliaazizah3718]

i remember him saying those were originally supposed to be singles but ended up scrapping his album because he wanted a new direction. well as it turns out that direction was a collection of songs pandering to tiktok soo

[@ryeofoatmeal]

I guess he released those songs for hobbies 😆

[@owlsareeverything4152]

@@auliaazizah3718 I guess we have Elton John to thank for that.😭

[@mirfangu]

@@auliaazizah3718 are u indonesian tho

[@okshanee]

honestly i love this whole album, i think it is definitely in the right direction for him as an artist.

[@parky7417]

true. im jsut glad his CHARLIE album after being so unactive in music scene and coming back and hitting #1 globally mustve been so rewarding for him.

[@cradio52]

Ugh I’ll never forgive Elton for making Charlie completely scrap the 2019 album, and I can’t forgive Charlie for actually listening to him. I Warned Myself, Mother, Girlfriend and Cheating on You were all MILES above whatever the f*ck he gave us on his album that just came out that replaced the album these songs were supposed to be from. Ugh!

[@ryeofoatmeal]

I would rather not forgive Elton for saying that cuz he didn't say what sucks about it... it would be better if he give constructive criticism, whichever area to improve. but can't blame Charlie too since he was at his lowest in his private life. he probably had mix feelings between his love life and tryna release a good album. but damn yeah kinda disappointed those songs didn't fit in the album/narrative :(

[@owlsareeverything4152]

I know! To be fair those were probably the best picked songs from the scraped album, or at least that’s what I tell myself to feel better about it.😭

[@jjw8885]

I think it was more to do with Charlie trying to relaunch himself as a bad boy, which can be felt on 'I Warned Myself' and 'Mother' and was VERY contrived. He didn't need to do that because 'Voicenotes' was a big success. Why change? But I thought 'Cheating On You' and 'Girlfriend' (one of my favourites actually) were massive improvements. I'm don't think they were actually meant to be on 'Voicenotes 2'. I could be wrong. I think I'd love a whole album in the style of 'Girlfriend'. That would be nice! As an aside, 'Cheating On You' actually came from a beat he made and shared on Instagram that people liked. Basically, a precursor to all his TikTok videos

[@earthboundserafine2972]

I agree 💯

[@ShloimyZaltzman]

Omg i Agree... You hit the nail on the head.

[@lizanya6433]

the fact he had to create his own gay rumors…

[@xoxo2450]

don't kill me 😂

[@letBIGGIErest]

When was this? Can you explain?

[@lizanya6433]

@@letBIGGIErest when someone tweeted something along the lines of “whatever girl dates charlie puth is the luckiest girl in the world” and he quote tweeted it saying “whatever *person 😉”

[@letBIGGIErest]

@@lizanya6433 oh brother. . . he's so mediocre. . .

[@stev6963]

Yikes

[@andioop7065]

Literally DIED when you referenced anti hero

[@akalabuchanan6594]

Charlie and Lauv are in the same box for for me. The last time Lauv made something good was "I met you when I was 18 (The playlist). And I only know like 2 Charlie songs.

[@MarloAlvarez7]

I have to disagree. I think Lauv's new album is amazing!! And some of his other singles in-between.

[@akalabuchanan6594]

@@MarloAlvarez7 I guess I need to re-engage with his stuff again

[@MarloAlvarez7]

@@akalabuchanan6594 give it a chance. I think you will enjoy his latest. ❤️😊

[@justjoannak]

Disagree. Lauv's new stuff has been popping off more

[@boopnoodle6947]

Funnily enough I’ve only been to those two artist’s concerts lol

[@welpthatsucks3123]

Charlie is cringe and annoying. Everyone knows that. L&R was only successful because army was streaming it because of Jungkook who carried the song. Like how are you going to collab with someone who literally already outdid you already when you guys sang together at a show? Other than that, L&R would've tanked if he didn't collab with Jungkook and if it wasn't for army. Plus, his obsession and interactions with Jungkook was cringey af. He came across as desperate and it was VERY obvious.

[@punkym00ns1]

I saw him live recently and his talent REALLY comes through on these songs live. Lots of ad-libbing and funky solos on his piano and key-taur, as well as epic groovy solos from his guitarist and bass player where the three of them bounce off one another with their solos. Also it’s muuuuch more evident when you see it live that “I Don’t Think That I Like Her” is a joke song, and when this album came out his did say a lot of the content os about his past. Wondering if that one is about teenage Charlie or something. anyway, that’s just my two cents. Voicenotes is definitely my favorite record by him but once you see him live he is anything but mediocre.

[@raxxit18]

I'll call his style as fast food in music as a lot of artists these days are doing. Catering to immature music taste audience and platforms like tiktok and insta where a song just trends for a bit and then is forgotten. I have songs from 70s that sound more fresh than his work. Thing is cheap. His songs sound really out of focus and old very soon. Idk why. I agree he is super talented and he will achieve greatness by keep missong for a while. Coz current albums are like practice bouts. Quick puns sound clever for 3 seconds but they dont make repeatability of a song for the song itself but for a video content the beat will make him quick buck maybe. Idk how money making on tiktok works for musicians. I hope he focuses more on not being a witty teen anymore coz he isnt one.

[@cyberreatronprime]

Unpopular opinion but I really like his music, especially those songs that relate personally. Voicenotes was amazing and Charlie has plenty of bangers. I don't really mind the cringey over the top lyrics but after based on what he has gone through it kinda works. But I do agree the auto tune was a little way too much since he can sing really well. But I feel like this is an album he needed to release for his own personal experiences regardless of critical opinions. Maybe after the mixed reviews on this album the next one will be more sonically cohesive and include more jazz influences as he always wanted to have like his transition from nine track mind to voicenotes

[@nattievoices]

I agree with this

[@ravenmindful673]

We don't expect him to have quote on quote deep music all the time. From the comments I see people simply want him to be creative and put more effort in his work. And really I agree with them. I speak as someone who also loves his music even if it's not cohesive. And I agree with you it's good he released this album for his own experience.

[@DavetheRave35]

I agree 😊 I think Charlie Be Quiet, First Time For Everything and Tears On My Piano are all great songs off his new album, though I’m not against critiques that he could push himself even further. I do think Loser was perhaps not the best single choice, to me that song is a little more middle of the road than other options on the album, but it’s by no means a bad song. I also think the subject matter of the songs being about break-ups/relationships can get a little over-used and tiring, and it would be interesting to hear about other topics and important things to him. Voicenotes, however, I think is a great album and in my opinion was one of the best male pop albums of 2018! The Way I Am, BOY, Empty Cups and I’ve Been Through It All are but a few of the great songs on the album, with Slow It Down being the highlight, a fantastic pop song that was dying to be a single. He clearly has the technical knowledge and passion for music and really does have some gems in his discography. Criticisms of a non-presence may be a result of label meddling diluting his vision, but it also may be a simple truth that Charlie just isn’t the enigmatic, glossy pop star that is pushed as the industry standard. It’s okay if he just isn’t into frequent performances, tours, appearances and features. In my opinion there are definitely other mainstream artists out there that are more deserving of the criticism and scrutiny that Charlie receives.

[@JustinGone]

His music sounds AI generated.

[@briicksyy]

Agreed, after listening to left and right and light switch I got so hooked

[@amazon2.022]

the problem with today's music: everything has to revolve around tiktok wtf and we end up with emptiness and superficiality, great

[@tauqueishachester9844]

I feel like him in JK should have made a real r&B song like a vibe like new verison of crusin like d'angelo did something smooth in sexy he need a song like gentleman by galinet

[@Theeblaccking]

He’s such an extremly talented gifted artist but maybe he should stick to writing for people and being the chorus cause them high notes chile shew

[@samibichumani1176]

Nope. The thing is we people like instrumentals. He made good instrumentals for others like in STAY & Harley's in Hawaii but whereas when it comes to his own album. He has very short instrumental in tears on my piano. Remember his all hits. See you again, We don't talk anymore, Attention. All had lengthy instrumentals. And my my gosh We don't talk anymore instrumental in the middle was so long and sexy. But now it simple straightforward voical. I don't know why he made Instrumental for STAY and then chose to not make any for himself! When he did it did hit like see you again and wdta

[@Theeblaccking]

@@samibichumani1176 damn you really are a fan I love it

[@neilwritesstuff]

i don't know much about jacob collier but with the one video i've seen of him i feel like he's who musical prodigy charlie puth should've aspired to be

[@jifij89]

100%

[@ryeofoatmeal]

true but what I observed, charlie chose the easy money easy route type of person

[@DUDEDRUNK]

I love Charlie and really wish he would put more efforts into his craft. He seems very comfortable with just being popular and rich that little efforts into doing more is done. Speaking of "Light switch" I prefer "Switch" by Cédrisian as it is a lot more sexy. Found it whilst looking for Charlie song as they have similar tittle.

[@girlscott411]

Seems like he should just be behind the scenes writing for other artists. Honestly, that seems like the better option out of the two anyway. Less stress and more money.

[@quratulaiiin]

i loved his music ever since 2015-16 when he had just very few thousand followers. i absolutely loved his music till voicenotes, then i guess he realised that he cannot be in his comfort zone anymore and decided to do dumb stuff, which works out for other musicians, worked out for him too. he went from a guy who's shy making his own music to guy who only songs that are supposed to be trendy. its sad because he has a such a nice voice and he's an extremely talented musician

[@courtneylong3358]

One word always comes to mind for me with Charlie Puth: pretentious. He is the epitome of "over promise and under deliver...."

[@Rayaann]

Can you do charli XCXs album crash and why it didn't break through, even though its as good as future nostalgia aesthetically and the production is amazing

[@MRJLS15]

His second album was so so good and the singles he put out after, and such it was pushing him forward. This new album is good but not as good as his second one.

[@anisanurraudah8383]

It's fascinating how this guy knows every single side of music technically yet is such a mediocre artist then we have Taylor Swift who can't even read music yet wrote her own songs solely based on her intuitive minds or the constant ringing of random melodies in her head. Very interesting.

[@NFTProductions]

Listened to the album as well and I only liked one song (That's Hilarious). I have to agree with your take, Honest. He has way more potential.

[@ryeofoatmeal]

same!! That's Hilarious is so good. that song should sit with other singles that didn't make it ie Mother, Cheating on You & I Warned Myself

[@justjoannak]

Ugh, agree

[@bangtanangel-ez1hb]

Jungkook carried Left and Right, gave him him a good debut on billboard then ditched him. My Boy😏

[@bemyhope5059]

I wish Jungkook didn't do a Collab with him in that cheap pop song I'm not into bts music but i was waiting something from Jungkook like R&B or atleast a well writing pop song or just something like still with you

[@bangtanangel-ez1hb]

@@bemyhope5059 I think jk just wanted to do something new but I also think jungkook will do rnb or pop for his solo album next year

[@valleyofthedawlz]

He ain't no Taylor Swift when it comes to song-writing

[@milkium5260]

i used to be a huge fan of him ever since his first album but completely stopped after whatever album after voicenotes

[@cute6390]

He should invite writers to work with him.

[@pandaglitterstar]

Bro idk why people hate him I’ve been stanning him since like 2017 and I think he is a talented and all round amazing person

[@priyanshisingh9589]

He is talented. The only problem is he is not being honest with himself. He still cares what about what masses want than considering and working on what he is worth of.

[@CG-tt3ny]

@@priyanshisingh9589 Agree. He has a lot of work to do with his identify as an artist.

[@ashantiw-a8554]

@honest your comment on self-titled albums was really interesting. I've never understood what a self-titled should mean/symbolise, a video from you explaining with examples of hits/miss would be incredible

[@mellyr2584]

I also think Charlie is so talented and wish he would actually apply himself.. he’s over doing it. I personally think he’s so hot but I’m turned off by the thirst trapping because it’s cringy & I feel like he’s not trying to appeal to me, which is fine, he doesn’t exist to appeal to me, it just makes me wonder who it is he’s actually trying to appeal to. He has a beautiful voice and I like the songs he writes for other people as well as many of his popular songs!! Haven’t listened to the album because I heard light switch & loved it but I became the disinterested in the lead up to the release & after it because of the thirst trapping. Hes 30??

[@user-mb8rf7qk5q]

He’s just a corny try-hard he can’t help it. He’s very talented but has no depth

[@gianmarcoharo7211]

I mean that answer is right in front of y'all. He knows he is talented and knows he can do better but won't because what he makes for other artists and listeners is what currently sells and gets radioplayed. Honestly, I would do the same if I were in his shoes. In this economy, I would value a steady income over the chance of self expression/risk via music. He also knows that nowadays the charts can easily be manipulated to bounce off a viral hit. He is smart in how he approaches this tactic. Also I don't really think he wants to be marketed as a pop act or the next best thing in music. He was always marketed, at least in my eyes, a producer/songwriter first.

[@spicytomango]

Elton really invited Charlie Puth to come over just to dunk on him lol. But I think Charlie will nail the direction he wants to take when he goes independent. Being with a label right now will get you pulled in every direction with little constructive guidance

[@steevenhyde3505]

He is very talented yet so tacky. He makes great songs and gives them away and keeps the silly ones for his albums.

[@danielrubinstein896]

The total opposite of lady gaga

[@jomarieblanca5197]

Lyrically some of the tracks from CHARLIE sounds like it still belongs to Nine Track Mind era. Personally, Voicenotes is his best album. I appreciate his new sound on CHARLIE especially on tracks like Charlie, Be Quiet and IDTILHA. It's different from his other songs. But it lacks the mature tone that he supposed to have in his 30's. But I like him as an artist and appreciate his works. He really need to get his act together and focused on making non-generic music.

[@madameblackimusprime]

I came here to fight. I might not care for all his songs, but he doesn't suck. Lots of writers struggle to release their own powerful discography while releasing the same for others. He's not unusual in any way. People just come after him because of the absolute pitch thing.

[@danielpatternson6149]

Well said.

[@whatisilyionlyknowipurpleyou]

I'm going to need Charlie to do a complete 180 on his career; he's incredibly talented no doubt, especially for others, but I think he needs to move away from pop, alternative-pop or edm, I'd like him to try out r&b, soul, jazz? Also adding I had no idea Charlie was 30, artists like Taylor Swift are getting older and their music is also maturing (along with her audience) not to sound rude, but he should take some notes

[@justjoannak]

100% agree

[@CG-tt3ny]

This!

[@AngelCakez]

NGL, the one song I loved from Charlie Puth was his Sexy Shades song lol

[@ashwinidesai4051]

That was before he got big break!! 😅

[@hotsexyangel]

I never really liked him to begin with. Sure, he’s a talented singer, but Jade from Little Mix revealed that he was creepy & weird towards her when they did a collab. He wanted her but she declined him & then he started acting weird towards her. The other girls said this too. Gives me the ick. I also really love bts and it’s sad to see jungkook be such a huge fun of Charlie tbh 😭 like buddy let that man go ! You’re better than him ! Left and Right was such a disappointment tbh. He had THEE jungkook of bts on that song and he still managed to fumble. (1) the song just isn’t good or memorable (2) he barely even gave Jk any lines.. bro what are you doinggg.. ik it’s his song but it’s still a collab & he took up 90% of the song. Almost feels like a clout grab to me but idk..

[@danellymani205]

It was most definitely a cash/clout grab. And army is to dumb to notice it. That song is the most generic tune I’ve heard in a while. Uninspiring comes too mind. But armies made it viral because Charlie keeps professing his gay love for JK. Can’t they see he’s being used for views.

[@justjoannak]

I didn't know that Jade went through that. I feel awful for her

[@boyezzy6546]

It's you, hi. You're the problem, it's you 💀

[@danyielsays4621]

The thing with him is that he has talent and potential but he needs to venture out and sing something different!!

[@MrLeo0711]

Yeah this album is a no for me dawg. Voice notes was my jam and I wish he continued in that direction. Him and Meghan Trainor give me similar vibes, I liked her last album "Treat Myself" a lot but idk about this new album just yet.

[@j_m12341]

I liked most of the songs on his new album. The only thing i dont like is that he released so many singles, that when it released, we all heard more than half of the album before it even released. I also didnt like how short it was. One more problem I had with it is that some songs' productions were too much, or the autotune on some of them were too much. But overall i did enjoy it.

[@firethoughts5193]

The title though😩. Might have to change his name to Brutally Honest LMFAOAOOA

[@puiafanai441]

For me...from his new album Charlie, i like left & right, loser, thats hilarious and no more drama, light switch is also not bad, it might not be a great album but for me its not a total failure✌🏼

[@shreyalove715]

not the taylor reference XD

[@lovarols5161]

I still can't forget him playing See you again live on a noon time tv show back home, and he was off key.

[@undscrvd]

When it comes to musical artists, Charlie is my guilty pleasure. I frequently indulge in a variety of musical genres, but new pop songs are a rarity. Charlie, however, has genuine talent in contrast to other well-known musicians, as evidenced by his mostly generic but nevertheless catchy songs.

[@JORDAN23TV]

Did not know he had an album out lol 😳

[@carhawara3394]

No one is more impressed by charlie puth than charlie puth

[@trinat347]

I feel like he should get out the pop realm. He's a good artist that has talent

[@blakepers6916]

I was excited for his new music when he released Mother I to this day think its such an underrated song and expected a lot more from what came after Mother

[@mikacai]

his song with jungkook was his best song w

[@Solo-vh9fm]

Having perfect pitch does not mean you sing in perfect pitch contrary to what a lot of people including OP thinks. And I don’t think he likes talking about having perfect pitch either since there’s little advantage to having it when it comes to songwriting or singing (it’s handy when analyzing music however).

[@danielpatternson6149]

It's like there was this one guy on KZbin who claimed that since he had "perfect pitch" (without presenting evidence to back up this claim) that he could criticize your taste in music

[@TrailblazerAnne]

His musics stop popping after attention

[@LemManga]

i liked mother and light switch was just ok... i loved the voice notes album but i didnt bother hearing his new album after light switch

[@stev6963]

"Done For Me" was his last really good song. Sadly it didn't get a lot of attention.

[@LemManga]

@@stev6963 done for me is on the same album as attention

[@stev6963]

@@LemManga I know, but "Attention" was released in summer of 2017 and his album didn't come out until like April of 2018, which is when "Done for Me" was released. Same album but the songs were released half a year apart.

[@digitalzealot7026]

I think my favorite charlie puth songs are "way I am" and "what you've done for me"

[@danielpatternson6149]

My favourites are "One Call Away" and "Attention." I know the former is pretty simplistic, but I can't help but smile every time I hear it.

[@angeldelmoroable]

He reminds me on Nicole Scherzinger, she works perfectly with the Pussycat Dolls, but without them she doesn't. For Charlie in this case he works great for others, but for himself it's just not the same.

[@Audrey_L]

To me, he doesn’t have charisma and his voice is ok…nothing special. His song writing/music isn’t profound. I hate it when people refer to them having perfect pitch or divine or genius in general, too egocentric.

[@ellatheperson3632]

He reminds me of a male Bebe Rexa. Both have talent but the things they release are mediocre and pander to radio music or in Charlie’s case tiktok music. All of songs are formulated to be popular in their concept but they just suck.

[@pigeondance]

i feel the same way about them!

[@Elias-co3xz]

I've been saying this for YEARS. Charlie is definitely a good singer and composer. But that's it. He's got the potential to make great, emotional, even moving songs. But he just doesn't. At least for me, I always get the feeling that I'm about to get a great song, but it falls drastically. They aren't bad songs at all, I just can't connect with his songs in an emotional level, not even once.

[@joycerodrigues1351]

hes talented but i agree with people saying that maybe hes better just behind the scenes, doing hit songs for others

[@onlyonSiMPLE]

Heres the thing: the melody of the songs of his album are good but they lack a lot of rhythm, making the songs sound flat, straightforward and boring. Now "charlie be quiet" is the only one who has a little more rhythm to it but the production is a little raw. Its never about how good the lyrics are written, its about him learning how to make his lyrics dance around the beat thus creating more rhythm.

[@whalisten]

I thought it was honest talking at first but it was Charlie LMAO

[@nicolehernandezg1]

Imagine him making a song like the cinematic orchestra cuz he could. THAT WOULD BE GOOD

[@noitsholly]

AYEE!! I love the anti-hero reference you slipped in there 😉

[@donjai9366]

Hi Honest can you make a video on George Michael and/or Prince and/or Karen Carpenter's career (similar to a Documentary) please

[@perryjones7771]

I forgot he even existed

[@briv2403]

Voice Notes is his best work to date

[@shreyas.loves.plants]

not the anti hero reference 😭💀

[@TheGamersGuide819]

Hey Honest can you do a video on the rapper Nova . He was on the rap game and everyone is wondering what’s happening with him .

[@sumlem]

It's really surprising to see him in circles with Jacob Collier. He also has great pitch but their music styles are like night and day! Charlie can keep up with Jacob's technicality, but doesn't take the musical risks

[@swarnalataghosh7629]

We need a Midnights review.

[@teqkilla]

All this musical knowledge and he makes the music he makes, and I think his response to that was to listen to his song ‘boy’ but even then he could do so much more. Idk I want to see him make some charli xcx/arca type song

[@J.krollikg]

Please give review on midnights album 🥺