Charlie's Angels (2019) Sucks

[@Flynn94]

Wait wait wait...this movie was Elizabeth Bank’s idea, she’s the only one who wanted it, and she wrote and directed it. Her character is front and centre of the poster, she is the leader of the team, and she’s “the first Angel to become a Bosley”...is this a fucking fanfic? Is this Elizabeth Banks putting her own self-insert fanfic character into a franchise?

[@SwellEntertainment]

I think you cracked the code

[@Flynn94]

Swell Entertainment I can’t wait to see her direct a Star Wars movie about the brilliant new female character Sknab Htebalize- who is the new Emperor and the galaxies first Super Jedi.

[@arikakarin2323]

I thought the same too.. I actually the one who waited for this movie lol.. Bc I love the previous movies and I quite expected something.. But damn.. They dont need to call this movie Charlie's Angels..

[@52andattitude48]

Read my mind. I think her pride got in the way. She stretched herself too thin to the point where you half-ass each task.

[@crocsy1439]

@@Flynn94 what about a Kpop movie where Anne White Caucasyan goes to Korea and all BTS memberd fall in love woth her without her speaking a single word of Korean

[@wuraolaolagunju]

Why is the song for a film called Charlie's Angels named "DON'T call me Angel". What are you then, flightless birds? Shall I call you emus? Charlie's ostriches?

[@sienkiewiczmonika1161]

I love your comment 😂

[@caitthecat]

I'd watch Charlie's ostriches. You're good, you must be in advertising 😜

[@Nick_CF]

if they are flightless birds then Sweet Dee needs to be the bosley

[@RingTheBella]

And why was that one song like the only marketing??? How did no one see the flaws in that

[@Erica-ye7kp]

It's also a remake of an old song. It featured heavily in the last Charlie's angels movies. It's a callback. Come on.

[@jujubees3360]

I miss when female characters actually had flaws and personalities other than “strong female character”.

[@viscountrainbows6452]

"What makes your character compelling?" *She kicks ass.* "Ookay but what kind of person is she?" *Strong and Brave* "Any defining characteristics, perhaps, weaknesses?" *None of that nonsense.* "What does she stand for? Does she have a particular message to send with her actions?" *Strong.* "Alright, that's all for today, this has been very informative." *ＳＴＲＯＮＧ.*

[@Myrilia]

The difference between Princess Leia and Rey is a good exemple of this!

[@fabiomoreira1506]

@@Myrilia imo Leia was captured. Saw all her people die. Rei left her planet because raisins. Is using the force how? Raisins. Is an expert lightsaber user how? Raisins. How is she granddaughter of palpatine when in the cave her family is never shown? Raisins. Why doesn't she ask granddad about her dad? Raisins.

[@catlover44477]

right! like it makes me hate them if they don’t have any flaws and it makes me cringe when theyre portrayed as perfect :(

[@madamebkrt]

These days when they do, they're "sexist" and "not Feminist enough". Case in point, Black Widow. I can't be the only woman who grew to like her even more after she showed that emotional vulnerability.

[@suniidays]

If you wanted people to see a badass character who is female. Write a badass character and make em female. Dont make a badass character built around the fact she is female

[@minior8360]

Louder please

[@Needler13]

Ah, Ripley in Aliens approach. Literally written with no gender in mind and just started to see if anyone can play this person

[@suniidays]

@@Needler13 Ripley is like the BEST example for what I'm saying

[@archer1949]

I don’t know. Clarice Starling is a good badass character that WAS written specifically as a female. It wouldn’t have worked otherwise.

[@vanroyal244]

@@archer1949 Guess it depends on what you're going for.

[@bubbles2215]

“Men won’t watch action movies starring women” she says as she promotes her REMAKE of a successful film and television franchise starring 3 women.

[@amadeusdebussy6736]

Self-awareness is hard!

[@cspd1151]

And as someone who was a part of an incredibly successful female-led action franchise....

[@jeremywoods770]

Shes going to eat those words when black widow finally releases

[@WhelmedButReady]

While I do agree with your point. I think the argument can be made that the original films were made from a male gaze where their entire selling points were their sex appeal. That being said, she totally didn't verbalize that correctly at all.

[@jeremywoods770]

@@WhelmedButReady true, but that same 'male gaze' also casted muscular hunks that women never seemed to mind looking at either. I mean honestly, conan the barbarian wore less clothing than red sonya did.

[@beladendron]

Dear Ms. Banks, My wife wanted to watch pitch perfect, so we saw it. My wife wanted to see twilight, so we saw it. My wife doesn't want to see this. And that's the bar you failed to clear.

[@glowingbuddha]

beladendron LOL! That’s great

[@nocturtle13]

That is pretty great 😂😂

[@cnmmmmmmmm]

😂😂😂

[@ayyylmao101]

Next time I want to watch a movie I'll consider whether your wife wants to see it first xD

[@beladendron]

@@ayyylmao101 do. I keep trying to get her to watch the room or birdemic.

[@hsfhanaa]

"Totally Spies" "Dragon Tales" "Winx Club" bro stop listing off my childhood it is freaking me out

[@TBK7913]

Power puff girls was lit

[@desireesmith862]

Hana'a F. I thought it was called Dragon Tails like a pun for Tales

[@hsfhanaa]

@@desireesmith862 they needed you on the marketing team

[@redstripedsocks5245]

@@desireesmith862 I thought the same thing "my world view has been shattered."

[@papajohn3632]

Am a dude and i loved these shows xd

[@stromaufwaerts-b7w]

Men don't like movies with female leads... begging for a Black Widow solo for nearly 10 years.

[@alphabetsoup6837]

Exactly...fucking 2020 postponed that shit, though.

[@IfIHadMyTimeAgain]

I hate women action movies, that’s why birds of prey is my favourite dc film and harley quinn is my favourite comic book character. Not DC character, COMIC BOOK CHARACTER

[@rishabbomma9361]

Oh my god I want to see her backstory so badly

[@RossM3838]

In the 1930s there were movies like Stage Door and The Women that have almost entirely female casts. Both movies were hits with men and women and are considered classics today. They are classics because they are great movies. Those who claim to have the first female movie or that men wont go to movies with female leads ar selfish and ignorant.

[@OBryanAguiar]

@@IfIHadMyTimeAgain Really? I really disliked Birds of Prey. I think it's a very confused movie and Harley is really badly done for me

[@meganchambers8108]

Elizabeth banks saying "men have had all these Spider-Man movies" sounds like she assumes that women can't enjoy Spider-Man...when they're basically the only super hero movies I like!

[@ciatayagermanjenson8689]

I agree! I loved it so much! My room was all spiderman. When friends/friends of friends first came over,they would ask why we were hanging in my brother's room. Lol. I hate this weird attitude. If you really pay attention to feminism, their points don't make sense. They say they need to be equal and be allowed to be apart of everything a man is-then- turns around and gets mad when a man tries to be a part of anything they do. BUT men are exactly the reason what they're trying to do fell apart because the men wouldn't join in. ..mmmmkaaay...???

[@DemonicRemption]

@Megan Chambers Given how Andrew Garfield looked and how adorkable Tom Holland's portrayal was, I don't blame you. Because God forbid women like cute guys.... And on that note don't get me started on Thor and Aquaman... -_-

[@kickhoppa5891]

Also Spider-Man is one of the most famous superheroes. There could be three shitty Spider-Man movies and they'd still make hella money.

[@minichopstick]

Ciata Yagermanjenson not sure if I misunderstood your comment, but if you mean feminists think that man should be excluded, but then get angry at the same men for not taking part, that isn’t feminism, that’s misandry. I’m a feminist, I believe there are women’s issues we should strive to fix, however I don’t hate men. I hate when people co-opt the feminist movement as a disguise for misandry. I’m quite disappointed in these clips of Elizabeth Banks. I was a fan, but her responses made me uncomfortable. Men were not the problem with her movie.

[@alexman378]

Funnily enough, they’re also the movies that put her into the public eye. She didn’t have a big role, but that’s where she started getting more offers.

[@asteria118]

them dragging down all the guy characters reminds me of something this girl said in a book review, “making every other character horrible, doesn’t make your main one good.”

[@Xanegoh]

The Familiar of Zero?

[@fabiomoreira1506]

@strontiumXnitrate also all the female characters are good and amazing. For example the Strong girl also knows advanced chimistry and the Smart girl can beat guys with one punch same as Strong girl. None of the girls have FLAWS...

[@maroonsyringe]

Fabio Moreira So they’re basically Mary Sues

[@alfredfreedomjones5105]

I’m so using this quote

[@HitsugiHime]

Jay Lynn that’s the most insulting is that they come across as sexist by implying that the only way to make female characters strong is by making all the male characters incompetent

[@rachelschenk1834]

Yeah I’m sick of reboots, also sick of the Disney live actions coming out rather than new original movies :/

[@vinthebriarpatch4973]

The Aladdin live action was actually better than the original

[@meganchambers8108]

I've been saying this for evs I'm so sick of disneys live action everything!!! Like WHO asked for a live lady and the tramp??

[@deepakmenon6720]

@@vinthebriarpatch4973 lmao please dont. Dont even compare it to the animated one. The animated aladdin is far superior.

[@mariokarter13]

You know the stereotype of the starving artist working a job they hate so they can afford their real passion? Hollywood is kinda like that. The movies they wanna make no one wants to watch, so they're bankrolled by low-effort trash that pays the bills.

[@Saturn_Rising]

mariokarter13 i do not wanna see any of these remakes

[@ReelMusicFreak]

Literally banks said "cisgender white male" and then just did cisgender white woman instead

[@michaelmohamed6739]

and call it ✨🌺diversity💫💖

[@weezerfan1232]

We as a society have outgrown liberalism. It's only harmful at this point lmao

[@maggiec83]

@TheVolourn light-skinned ethnically ambiguous ones but that's a whole other conversation.

[@Lore-hz8wz]

@TheVolourn right but they were all ethically ambiguous so

[@icravedeath.1200]

​@@weezerfan1232somebody should strap Elizabeth Banks to a chair and force her to watch 'women make film' so she can gain a sense of fucking perspective.

[@jqyhlmnp]

What I liked about the Charlie’s Angel movie is I didn’t see it

[@SuigaRou]

That was the best part.

[@snakesandstones4252]

@@SuigaRou xtp

[@snakesandstones4252]

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[@firstlastname1158]

I've seen it it's not worth it so don't bother trust me

[@OctoberLotus]

Same. That was my favorite part. 10/10 would ignore this movie again.

[@crasicatlady]

Successful franchise with a female lead: The Hunger Games. Tons of actions scenes with the female lead, hell, the whole thing is about an underdog with a voice. Important female characters in ALL four movies, and f*cking Elizabeth Banks WAS one of them, even appearing in the action long after her character was put aside in the books.

[@madamebkrt]

Not to mention that the main character could be emotionally vulnerable and still remain a strong character.

[@whale144]

Atomic Blonde also did pretty well at the box office, female leads for action movies can do well at the box office. Quality is quality.

[@voldemortthenoselessfreak2126]

Where's Bella Swan in Twilight?

[@arikakarin2323]

I actually didn't like it because of her lol... The movie was just like.. Bosley and Charlie's Angels.. Lol

[@hcaz5818]

That series is poop as well

[@hnesrt339]

I LOVED the 2000s Charlie's Angels movies. They were over the top and cheesy but so iconic at the same time

[@Speculativedude]

True, and to add 2 things to that. 1. They weren't preachy. 2. They were actually entertaining. and fun to watch. Sometimes cheese is great.

[@boringbill88]

Those films were laughing at themselves and we're not taken too seriously. It's the charm of them.

[@wallyman292]

@@Speculativedude you forgot 3. Not all the men were bad.

[@jennaelizabeth8956]

I think the 2000s ones were cheesy, but played into it and knew that it wasn’t meant to be taken super seriously. They had fun with it, and it shows. This one tried to be taken so seriously that it was just terrible. Even the 70s show was fun and campy, and that’s why it worked.

[@chucheeness7817]

Yeah the movies were pretty dumb, but fun to watch. I remember watching 2 of them in cinemas back when they were out, then watched them whenever they had reruns on cable. Now I barely watch any 1 film in theatres a year.

[@Janon48]

I honestly believe that Banks auditioned for the 2000's movie, didn't get the role, and this is her way of making us pay for it

[@retronerds6884]

Seeing as the movie flopped and couldn't even make back it's budget back only person paying for it is banks

[@alex_n215]

Did she actually?

[@luiginastro8831]

Honestly, yeah, it feels like that.

[@bup4155]

Well seeing as she played the leader and made her character the main focus of the poster I bet she did

[@majorgear1021]

Narcissism is a powerful drug. Self-insertion seems to be the norm in Hollywood these days.

[@MrOverHeels]

How she asked men to watch her movie to 'return the favor' sounds so pathetic, to be honest.

[@deathcrew27]

I hate that "fu***ing" that she puts before "favor", it makes it super cringy because in her head I bet she imagined that to be an incredible catchphrase with lots of cheering at the end...

[@fabiomoreira1506]

@@deathcrew27 it's like she's doing US a favour for watching this bad action mary sue movie.

[@donniedollarhidejr.2766]

It is, indeed

[@bitticlan]

She responded in an extremely smug manner. I don’t understand why anyone thinks being smug is a way to convince someone to do anything. All it does is make people want to stop talking to you.

[@mikelombard21]

She sickens me.

[@thantrus]

Sure is a privilege to be able to piss away about $50mil of someone else's money and still have a job in the morning.

[@mysticstrikeforce5957]

A every day White girls problem isn't it.

[@keiichimorisato98]

Not only still have a job, but a promotion, book deal, talk show deals, etc.

[@madamebkrt]

@@mysticstrikeforce5957 Noooooo...

[@triplehakasarajaysolderbro2915]

She recently made a deal with Universal to star, produce and also write or direct Invisible Woman reboot

[@wizardpatch9405]

In the old days, a flop like this would have hurt her for a few years.

[@andrewmorales3580]

Being female is not a personality trait. That was the issue with this movie. And men are not inherently evil. Also another issue.

[@lunadexelaju3494]

YUp!!!

[@braylin5003]

Indeed but this is the only way to make movies target as feminist according to the writers

[@Therealpigeonboi]

That's why I was actually hoping that the blond lady was a traitor, but it came at no surprise to me that professor x was the bad guy

[@hellogoodbye4061]

@@s.qwiggens4825 Exactly! That is ALL non SJWs and non-feminists have been trying to get across. Yet, the woke have apparently dug in their heels and these Charlie Angels type crapola will still be spewing onto the screen for the time being.

[@AndyDuphresne]

Hello Goodbye the whole point of this video is her explaining that this pandering crap doesn’t appeal to “the woke” as you’ve put it but yeah keep generalizing

[@bup4155]

"This isn't a movie for men." A few days after the movie releases: "Why aren't men watching my movie???"

[@papanuiizhea9285]

And the fact that she doesn't mention that women didn't go see it either is freaking hilarious

[@Tombbistol]

Yeah , and here’s the thing , if you do the math about the box office money , not many women watched it either . Also I watched it in the movies , there were a lot of men in the audience as well , so she’s just shift the narrative to blame men instead of accepting the fact that her movie isn’t good.

[@ramdustincarandang7798]

Hypocrisy at its finest

[@Dreadjaws]

It's the usual situation: - Make a movie starring women. - Say you're fighting sexism. - Pretend all previous, popular movies starring women don't exist. - Insult men as much as you can. - Put no effort in your movie, showing how low an opinion of the gender you're supposedly praising you really have, because you expect them to show up just because women star in it. - No one goes to see it. - Blame men for it. If these kind of filmmakers put as much effort in their movies as they put in their constant audience insulting they'd make billions.

[@fofotheclown1051]

Nicholas Cauton I understand your frustration for this bad movie but your craving for violence against her is very... misogynistic. I said it. It’s true. And “feminazi agenda”? You sound like you listen to Alex Jones 🤣

[@fofotheclown1051]

Nicholas Cauton You doin too much bruh

[@edteh1838]

Hey@@fofotheclown1051 maybe I myself is a misogynistic clown but I dont see how we want violent against women?..

[@muzza1591]

@@fofotheclown1051 How exactly does his comment call for violence? He's describing a phenomenon that is becoming more and more prevalent as time passes Edit: he might have edited his comment so idk

[@donoirfoo]

@@muzza1591 Think they're replying to a deleted comment.

[@astaraah]

Irony: Banks arguing that there aren't enough female lead franchises that are available yet also starring in one of the most popular franchises starring a female lead; The Hunger Games.

[@maxmarks3503]

Also, the movie she directed was literally a REMAKE of a movie ALREADY STARRING THREE WOMEN

[@peposo7]

yeah. Baby Thor didn't do sh#t.

[@Sara-hl6jw]

She didn't say that they don't exist, she said that they're not enough. 🧐

[@limsiryuean5040]

​@@Sara-hl6jw She's right, there's not enough bad female lead movies

[@jonathanjones621]

Aliens Franchise was good until Aliens 3 but that's because it went from scary to weird but originally Female hero back in the 80s

[@lifeofjonesi]

Tangled, Hustlers, Frozen, Mama Mia, The Hunger Games trilogy, Maleficent, Mulan, Alita, Captain Marvel, Little Women, Wonder Woman, Tomb Raider, Moana and the Twilight series (which even had Kristen Stewart as the lead) were all female lead (or so called “female movies”) that scored high at the box office (at least 150M - 1B$). Pretty sure not only women saw those movies if they were able to reach that high. It’s literally less of who is in the movie (male/female, ethnicity, etc.) but more of how the movie was made/what is the movie/the anticipation of the movie. She’s literally blaming men for making a terrible film. Which is a complete disgrace to Cameron Diaz, Lucy Liu and Drew Barrymore.

[@magsteel9891]

Jojo it's always men's fault. I agree, I've seen many female centered movies, some multiple times, and it's all in the characters and story. Heck, I've seen probably every Barbie movie there is multiple times and even some of those are fun. I'm certain that in the right hands even this could have been a good movie. And lastly her attitude towards men and what makes people go to a movie just alienated her potential audience.

[@gogoforromeo9598]

Yea but everyone collectively agrees captain marvel was pretty damn bad.

[@georgia673]

@@gogoforromeo9598 yeah but people will watch Marvel movies regardless if they're good or not

[@gogoforromeo9598]

Hal Excellent point

[@babyvision6924]

Captain Marvel really wasnt that bad. It wasnt as good as most marvel movies but it was still enjoyable.

[@LokiWolfe1985]

Why weren't the Angels three men being ordered around by Charlie, secretly a woman? Banks wasted this reboot.

[@guillemmartinez9958]

Omg that would be amazing

[@reaperjane2180]

I definitely would have paid to watch that😁

[@dks90768]

Could've spent a good portion of their money to get ONE A-list actress(someone like Sandra Bullock?) then use the rest to find some rising stars to play the Angels and pay the crew more

[@Esmeagolly]

@@dks90768 Sandra bullock would have been great as Charlie or bossley for that matter.

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

honestly i usually dont like gender flips but that sounds cool as hell

[@mackword]

I can’t be the only person who thinks the new Charlie’s Angels Movie, for all their griping about being “for women” and “in response to sexism” was actually kinda sexist? Like they had all the traditional female tropes - like freaking out over a big closet and always having perfect makeup.

[@oliviarichman6035]

Catie Word i thought the SAME THING when i saw the trailer. that whole focus on a closet thing made me cringe and solidified the fact that i didnt want to see it

[@Dreadjaws]

For real. Also, all the main characters are attractive. How about some plain-looking girls as protagonists?

[@spiderf8d901]

@@Dreadjaws Really? Since when was Kristen attractive?

[@Dreadjaws]

@@spiderf8d901 Don't be dense.

[@spiderf8d901]

@@Dreadjaws I'm not dense, I just really think she's ugly

[@aphroditeheart]

I FULLY stand by a Winx, WITCH, or Totally Spies movie. Those would be amazing honestly. Edit: y'all need to pump the damn brakes on telling me the TV show sucked. Yeah, I know. No one likes that they whitewashed and able washed everything cutting out the autistic and Latina characters. LITERALLY no one said they wanted a show. I said a MOVIE. If you make one more idiotic joke about this being my fault because I didn't want a TV show, go after the creator of the Sabrina comics, the ATLA Fandom, and the damn Charmed Fandom while you're at it because their reboots ALL SUCKED TOO if you're an "original is superior" fan. No one likes the way they're making the live action ATLA, no one like the movie TLA, no one liked the Charmed reboot that tokenized women of color. Netflix takes things and ruins them. That's why my comment NEVER SAID "I FULLY stand by a Winx, WITCH, or Totally Spies Netflix remake with creative freedom."

[@biazacha]

And a decent Kim Possible movie or a live action Carmen Sandiego.

[@lemonscentedcloroxwipes]

@@biazacha Ohh yes! Totally Spies, Kim Possible and Carmen Sandiego are such good shows.

[@colebuckon3856]

I would totally see a Totally Spies movie. Also, a decent KP movie would be awesome. I've been rewatching the series, and it is even better than I'd remembered it being.

[@lemonscentedcloroxwipes]

@@colebuckon3856 Honestly, Kim Possible was one of the best shows (i forgot what network it was on). It was in the top tier

[@psiphyre]

@@lemonscentedcloroxwipes KP -> Disney.

[@rattledskull9999]

Banks: "They are not trained assassins, they're not John Wicks" Me: But isn't that what a spy basically is

[@statiq1941]

no, fundamentally no.

[@duaneninjaray]

Yes... For the love of God! Yes 🤷

[@Yautah]

There's very few spies even in movies with the body count of John Wick. And in reality being a spy appears to be really boring. Almost as boring as being the "detective" in the car spotting for hours waiting for something to happen.

[@ghostamity5116]

Spys and assassins are different. If they were the same, they’d have the same name

[@laurenvega6012]

Even john wick got the shit beat out of him, but what everyone loves about him is everytime he get knocked down he gets back up

[@alphabetsoup6837]

"From a cisgendered straight white male perspective" Ah, yes. Now for a new perspective from a cisgendered straight white woman! Cuz that's different!

[@lockheart619]

We love diversity 🙆

[@bex1107]

RIGHT!!

[@bluelavender7252]

That's what we call a # girlboss move 😍😍😍 /s (it sucks)

[@zombi-likes-frogs7202]

Also as a non-cisgender white male it’s still shit

[@stripes616]

It’s really disappointing for me as a women to see so many women in the public eye promote feminism in a way that degrades and looks down on men. Feminism is not (at least it shouldn’t be) about bringing down men to bring women up. It’s about EQUALITY. Yes there is misogyny in many parts of society and I’m not saying that it’s not an issue and that we shouldn’t be addressing it but the way I see so many women going about it is just horrible and disappointing.

[@fabiomoreira1506]

To me is women being Good and Perfect at everything they do with zero FLAWS.

[@smsmsmsmsmsm]

Truth. Truth. Truth. I’ve written like 3 lil essays in the comments agreeing w other commenters of this sentiment and I cannot agree enough and I wish this perspective was more widespread.

[@SunflowerSpotlight]

It’s why I consider myself an egalitarian. Feminism has become such a divided thing, even internally. If a label has to be explained, it’s not doing a good job of what it’s supposed to do.

[@kikikutie12]

I'm a woman who is not a feminist because of how bad a lot of these outspoken feminists are, but I will always respect the feminists who truly believe in equality.

[@jeremywoods770]

Speaking from the male side of it, i promise that a lot of us arent bothered when we see badass females doing badass shit. They dont even need to be sexy eye candy. When these badly written movies come out, a lot of us dont resent the female gender as a whole. We throw our hate to the studio for allowing this to happen. So if any of you females get disappointed for these movies making your gender look bad, just remember that only an asshole would fault an entire gender for one bad movie. The rest of us would just rather the studio step up and do better next time.

[@jeremywoods770]

"We need men to watch a movie about why we dont need men, or my movie wont make enough money" - Elizabeth Banks

[@theshogun5364]

THANK YOU

[@vanroyal244]

I think she's missing a few brain cells

[@AGrotesqueMess]

Totally makes sense

[@kitking6462]

"There's only a white, cis male perspective" does she not realise 2/3 of those adjectives apply to her...

[@Crippycooke]

Yea, white feminism forgets its privilege

[@Luvie1980]

No such thing as a cis gender.

[@Crippycooke]

@@Luvie1980 It means you still identify as the gender of your birth.

[@susanq6030]

Crippycooke yeah it’s stupid. It’s like having a word for people who aren’t bipolar. How about call us the normal people.

[@kitking6462]

@@susanq6030 The issue with that is that if you call cis women/men just 'women/men', and trans women/men 'trans women/men', it implies that trans people aren't their identified gender. Trans women and men are still women and men, so another word is needed to differentiate. Also, trans people are normal people! Hope this helps explain why the word cis is needed :)

[@Edriely]

"women don't walk into a room and immediately start fighting" Well, no, in the civilized world no one does. But if I'm walking into an action movie I darn well expect to see some action. And having seen the other Charlie's Angels movies, I expect some crazy shenanigans as strong, fierce, gorgeous women proceed with the ass kicking, and I say this as a young woman who would also presumably be part of the target demographic. I've seen Charlie's Angels and Charlie's Angels full throttle dozens of times and while I can say there is definitely cheese, I always thought they were pretty great in terms of trying to empower women. Yeah, there are a lot of male fanservice moments, but what I always took away was that women could be just as badass as men. And because they were women that would often be underestimated it made those badass moments even greater because they overcame insurmountable odds and came out on top. They were strong, athletic, smart, witty, on top of being absolutely gorgeous and incredibly confident. Everything a girl or young woman could possibly aspire to be. The franchise didn't need a "feminist reboot" and would probably have done much better if the director wasn't framing it that way and challenging and outright attacking people who didn't want to go assuming it was going to reflect her man hating attitude. All she had to do was come up with a decent action flick, market it as an action movie that featured strong women, and leave it at that and they'd have been fine. Slapping that manhating feminist agenda is what killed it. And no, I'm not saying feminism is the problem. I'm saying the directors version of it is.

[@cc-gx8hr]

I laughed when u said Kristen Stewart was there to attract a lesbian / bi audience bc she’s literally the only reason I saw it lmao they got me

[@CryBaby_Pisces]

Same lmao

[@laingadaing]

At least you're honest. Refreshing.

[@ethicalcheeze1407]

Kinda like how foreign action movies hire Scott Adkins to be the villain for 5 minutes so they can slap his handsome face on the cover and sell ten dollar DVDs in Walmart cause they know dumbasses like me will see his face and go, "ooh! Another Scott Adkins movie!" Only to go home, pop that bad boy in the ol' PlayStation and discover that he's in the fuckin' thing for less time than it makes to make a GODDAM SANDWICH. .... No I'm not bitter.

[@tiaaaron3278]

The Alliance of Women Film Journalists nominated Stewart for the Actress in Need of a New Agent for Charlie's Angels. I think she won that award too.

[@angelabby2379]

Same she is so pretty, would not watch if she isn't in the movie

[@Guardiansoffire]

ATTENTION!!!!! Charlie's Angels Full Throttle: there was a scene where Kelly Garrett tells Dylan/ Drew Barrymore, "Angels are like diamonds, they can't be made, You have to find them." Charlie's Angels 2019 there is an academy where women are basically made to become an angels.

[@Danishruyu1]

Lorenzo De La Fuente that’s hilarious and all, but technically diamonds can be made (and they are often more pure than the natural diamonds)

[@user-sf5qi3di5q]

@Lil Musky I believe it’s because there used to be a stigma attached to lab grown diamonds and people considered them “fake” and not as rare as mined diamonds. So she is saying angels are hard to find like “real” diamonds

[@victorfatalys1076]

Keep in mind that this academy doesn't make diamonds tho; zircons at best, and I'm generous...

[@5yogurt]

Mass production of the same shit

[@phoebexxlouise]

a perfect metaphor for how the film industry has changed ... successful movies were accepted as flukes back then so people still took risks, now there's barely any risk taking and the industry is run like a factory

[@babyvision6924]

“Men have 37 spiderman movies but wont see 1 female led action series” Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure there are women who enjoy spiderman movies too

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

Spiderman is my favorite superhero franchise and when I saw Charlie's angels trailer. I said this is going to be dogshit and didn't bother watching it

[@Loopyboy447]

And not all Spider-Man movies were treated equally.

[@joakimedlund7712]

Jessica Francis I really like the movie and I think it’s worth watching!

[@aitor.online]

actually no. every single spiderman fan is a male and there are literally 0 spiderman female fans /s

[@joakimedlund7712]

a i t o r of course there is female Spider-Man fans

[@merrymeet]

Amanda: "Can we get a Winx Club Movie?" watching this in 2021: No, but we can get a crappy Netflix series.

[@luishp3]

Be careful what you wish for...

[@worsten32]

Natasha Romanov (black Widow) is an amazing example of how to write a good character. There is a scene in Avengers Assemble where Nat is tied to a chair during an interrogation, where the men are revealing their evil plans to her because they underestimate her and do not see her as a threat. (So she uses that to her advantage and is really interrogating them) and then proceeds to take down all the people in the room still tied to the chair.

[@ArturGlass.C]

Yeah but I mean Marvel literally waited until her character died to make a spin-off movie about her. They should have made it way earlier, she's one of the character the people were the least invested in (with Hawkeye). They made 3 Thor movie. I like Thor as much as the next gal but couldn't they just make 2 movies about him and 1 about Black Widow. She was one of the originals.

[@magsteel9891]

Laureen Berger yeah they should have done it sooner. It sure wasn't because guys don't like her or her character. Of course she's also been in many other movies over the years.

[@ArturGlass.C]

@@magsteel9891 Yep, I can't with people trying to tell me "look how progressive marvel is with women" and stuff...like they really slept on Black Widow, I won't forget that.

[@magsteel9891]

Laureen Berger well, consider also she's been in a movie every year for like the last twenty years, including nearly a marvel movie a year. Maybe she and the studio didn't have capacity for more. Don't know. But I would have preferred to see black widow much sooner too.

[@karenpratt2523]

Disagree. Black Widow in the MCU is the least developed of all the characters. Sure women like that shes kick ass and men and I suppose some women enjoy seeing her in her skin tight suits, but seriously, we know more about Hawkeye than we do about Black Widow from a character development standpoint.

[@ibnmianal-buna3176]

“This movie isn’t for men.” Men don’t watch it. “This movie failed because of sexist men.” Me-(Violently bangs head on wall)

[@TiffanyRay]

Reminds me of the birds of prey mess

[@thestranger9608]

Just like the birds of prey movie

[@ArturGlass.C]

Listen a lot of Rom-com have only female audience. This movie didn't bombed because men didn't watch it. This movie bombed because women (which is the audience that should've been targeted) didn't watch the movie. Men are just 50% of the population, you can have a plenty big demography with just women.

[@ibnmianal-buna3176]

Laureen Berger That’s exactly what I’m sayin

[@ArturGlass.C]

@@ibnmianal-buna3176 I mean the listen was mostly for Elizabeth Banks even if she would never ever see it lol. Her reaction is so annoying.

[@juliepoirier1320]

Barbie: Spy Squad was a better movie than this Charlie's Angel remake.

[@tamirholmes6324]

Barbie spy squad walked so that this could fall

[@leo-fs1rb]

Julie Poirier I’m voting you for president

[@ceilingfan2007]

This is absolute facts

[@ramdom_assortment]

I rather watch the Charlie's Angels starring my crush, Lucy Liu.

[@ramdom_assortment]

@@laziestnameever7713 They're nice too, but I'm a man who's favorite color is yellow.

[@magicalgirl4]

@@ramdom_assortment what the fuck

[@ramdom_assortment]

@@magicalgirl4 A man can have preferences.

[@magicalgirl4]

@@ramdom_assortment I know but like, calling an asian woman yellow..... yikes

[@ramdom_assortment]

@@magicalgirl4 It was a joke. Don't take it too seriously. My fiancee is Asian and I have good knowledge base on Asian cultures. It was meant as a light hearted joke, just like how Japanese people call whites Gaijin. Asians themselves also sometimes call each other yellow.

[@bane4490]

I had no idea there were no movies starring women before this Charlie’s Angels movie, wow how stunning and brave

[@madamebkrt]

That's what pisses me off. There have been plenty of women in movies - good movies - for DECADES! Action movies included. But each and every time one of these new "Feminist Movies" is made, they act as if it's the first time we're going to see a woman on screen.

[@SAsaiyajin]

@@madamebkrt yeah because it's the 'agenda'. Not in the 'illuminati' way😂😂, but the media still tries to 'stir' the public in trends that are not existend. It doesn't work in current form of media, same with birds of prey. How can you use a female character made popular mostly by men, to cater against them🙄. Men begged for a Black Widow movie, Wonder Women is considered the best DCEU movie. Back in the 90s we had TV shows like Charmed and Buffy the Vampire slayer. Cartoons, Powerfull Girls, Totally Spies where proven to be watched mostly by boys. Sailor Moon too. I really dont get where Hollywood assumes men don't like female leads. It's just agenda.

[@madamebkrt]

@@SAsaiyajin It really is. The issue is, so many impressionable people pick it up without a second thought.

[@SAsaiyajin]

@@madamebkrt yeah I don't get it either.

[@Danon175]

Ah sarcasm... Thy name is Bane.

[@juanpablorobayo9891]

"Women didn't go see your movie either." Maybe, just maybe, putting a female protagonist in a movie does not make a good movie--and **thinking that simply making your protagonist a woman will make your stuff good is not a feminist thing to do** Making sure your protagonists and characters are well constructed? Nahhhhhhh

[@wallyman292]

One would think they would have learned this with the all female ghostbusters reboot.

[@juanpablorobayo9891]

@@wallyman292 nonono, see, the reason ghostbusters reboot failed was because of something else!!/s (again, screw reboots, give me good ORIGINAL female characters)

[@hairbeauty8083]

Kristen stewart is the reason i couldnt even stomach this movie!!!!!!!! I hate her. Her acting is horrendous.

[@kaylalezabeth7175]

@@hairbeauty8083 are you just saying that because of Twilight?

[@selty]

@@wallyman292 I swear I was the only person who liked that movie tho 😭

[@juliepoirier1320]

This was like a live action Totally Spies movie, but I'm convinced an actual live action Totally Spies movie would have been much better.

[@thomaskole9881]

A Totally Spies movie could be, and should be, far better than Banks's self-insert fanfic.

[@groove9899]

Fuvking loved totally spies as a kid

[@v.v.9.9.]

Do not disrespect Totally Spies like that lmao

[@Melaramaa]

Omg why haven't they made that into a live action movie or show or something. Thatd be a really good idea

[@mkhizar9271]

Lol

[@babs3241]

Elizabeth Banks, who co-starred in the Hunger Games, complained that a female-led franchise wasn't getting followed?

[@majorgear1021]

Reeeeeee!

[@buffalowash]

Dude, a totally spies movie would be so dope

[@mysticstrikeforce5957]

But if you think about the modern day version of it i don't think you'll want it.

[@sydw1173]

If the right person gets their hands on it, it could be a really cool project

[@candicoated2001]

I want someone like Sam Raini to do it. He did great with Spider-Man and Scooby Doo.

[@deadinside-jk]

I would sell my kidney if its good

[@JustWhattaRuLookinAt]

“I’m convinced that she convinced herself that men needed to go see this movie in order for it to be successful that she didn’t even consider if women were gonna go see her movie.” *What can we say- The accurate truth hurts*

[@devinthadude88able]

I remember when Elizabeth B. was trying to talk shit to Steven S. at a award show, for not making a movie with a main female lead. She kept going on and on negativity about his movie. Until someone reminded her that he directed The Color Purple. A movie that was about two women....that was multiple Oscar nominated........She damn sure forgot about that one!!!

[@IAMBENNYBLANCO.]

Because she's a dumbass.

[@EddieMachetti]

Devin Wiggles “uhm why didn’t Saving Private Ryan have any women?” - Elizabeth Banks

[@devinthadude88able]

EddieMachetti ummmmm hmmmm tell me Ms. Banks why?

[@triplehakasarajaysolderbro2915]

She's really just greedy, she just signed a deal with Universal to star and produce Invisible Woman remake, just after Charlie Angles flopped, to me that's privileged, I mean how many male actors or directors had flops and were never given another opportunity?

[@Usernamehear]

Devin Wiggles ummm hello what about Jurassic park bro?! All the title character are girls. T rex raptor 1 raptor 2 and don’t forget raptor 3 aka the big one.

[@ElZamo92]

Men don’t care about the lead’s gender. Nobody does. People only care if the movie is shit or not.

[@aitor.online]

there are tonnes of movies with strong female characters that men (and women obviously) love. people just want a reason to complain. did people ever seen star wars or alien. princess lea and ripley are just 2 of a long list of badass, interesting female characters.

[@vanroyal244]

@@aitor.online If you're gonna be progressive, have interesting characters.

[@aitor.online]

@@vanroyal244 thats what im saying. the problem isnt female characters, the problem is shit writing

[@vianjelos]

Im confused why people say that men dont watch female lead films...terminator was female lead, Aliens was female lead, so were Underworld and the live action resident evil movies. Those were all high grossing films and while the resident evil movies suck from a movie standpoint they were still popular enough to get like 100 sequels. Oh and the live action wonder woman tv series was super popular back in the day and lets not forget Xena and Buffy...

[@ClaudetteVioletta]

Oh... You'll be surprised.

[@haileymay1656]

You can be a powerful female without bringing down the other sex. It’s not that hard.

[@ensulalachance8353]

Yes!!!

[@adora1335]

exactly

[@debbiesuesteele9639]

I agree. I do not like how men, esp. white men are vilified. It's really uncool and unfair. But if you decide to go with that, ya better turn out an amazing movie. This movie sucked. It would have sucked if men went to see it, it would have sucked if it was a huuuge hit, it would have sucked no matter what. This is not because of men. It's because the script sucked, the director sucked so the actors suffered, and no amount of gender shaming is going to change that. I used to like Elizabeth Banks but now she just seems so....well...bitchy and entitled.

[@nicholaslivsey2589]

Saying bringing men down to make a powerful woman is not feminism because It says they cant be on a mans current level.

[@iheartart0827]

Yeah, i always think about this philosophy: You know, if you have to vilify someone just to seem "better," then maybe you were never truly "better," if you know what i mean. Banks doesn't realize than she can make a female-led movie without having to unnecessarily drag down men in the process.

[@Trallnar]

"Men have 37 Spiderman movies but won't see 1 female lead action series" Except I'm pretty sure the whole world would go crazy for a Spider Gwen movie!

[@markymo1115]

Fuck yeah that would be dope

[@spenser9908]

Nah, probably not.

[@markymo1115]

@@spenser9908 thanks spenser

[@markymo1115]

@Gerry C the main difference being that people have largely never heard if those characters but gwen has been in one of the most successful spiderman movies ever

[@uwurights2012]

p sure the spiderverse sequel they’re planning is meant to focus on Gwen as spiderwoman. the hype for that better be unreal i stg

[@smcd6101]

I love how Elizabeth Banks thinks men should "return the favor" by seeing her movie. News flash, Elizabeth: People don't see movies to do YOU a favor. They see movies to be entertained without an agenda being shoved down their throats. Clearly you failed here.

[@diy_cat9817]

She wants a pity watch

[@sonyakii]

What Banks thinks women want: Charlie Angels reboot What we women really want: Ninja Turtles on Ice

[@felix_a_fiend]

PLEASE I NEED THAT

[@rainesages]

Fun fact about "Don't Call Me Angel": it sounds like 3 random musicians were airdropped into a brutally generic pop track because they basically were! Don't Call Me Angel was lightly rewritten from a cut Ariana Grande b-side, and they gave parts of Ariana's segments to Miley Cyrus. Lana sounded like she had no reason to be there because she didn't, I don't believe her conspicuously slow distorted portion was in the original demo. But hey, gotta get butts in seats by any means necessary, let's throw her in too

[@nbucwa6621]

Seeing how that song killed the little excitement I felt for the movie after seeing the trailer, I'd say it backfired.

[@ZombieGravitation]

I mean I like the song bc I am a fan of each singer but yes it is so disjointed (even after people attempted to rearrange it) they don't fit together. Still didn't move me to watch the movie at all. If i want to a spy movie with a lead female I'll rewatch Atomic Blonde - it's not perfect but I like it.

[@sontrajamfemininegaze145]

They tried to recruit the hottest names in music at the time in order to produce the same effect that Destiny's Child propping up Charlie's Angels had in 2000, but it was a very shallow attempt and didn't work! Man, I still think the fabulous intermingling between the two female franchises of Destiny's Child and Charlie's Angels was something truly amazing and a little bit revolutionary.

[@setter_soul_waifu0930]

Ariana and Miley was okay, but Lana man is so random. She don't fit in the song, and I love Lana's music. I feel like it was sultry and sexy at first then when Lana came, I felt depressed lol.

[@SpiffyDot]

It’s not about men seeing women lead films. It’s about GOOD women lead films. I dragged my Stallone and Shwarzenegger loving boyfriend to Little Women, with him knowing nothing about. And he LOVED it, said it was the best film he’s seen so far this year. In the past, women in leading roles and positions in the film industry were few and far between, but that’s changed HUGELY in the past 10 years. I just wish some of them (like Banks) would stop talking and start walking.

[@lotussight]

Yeah but... Little Women is just superior ;) it's got badass female characters with flaws and emotional turmoil. It's the best.

[@arikakarin2323]

She actually ruined it herself.. I expected to see this movie.. Ended up dissapointed.

[@orcaflotta7867]

"And he LOVED it, said it was the best film he’s seen so far this year. " Don't panic, the year's still young. We still have a good chance for much betterer films to come out.

[@sobatmissqueen5558]

exactly... i know they say women can do anything but can we say we all can do anything, i mean i watched dog and cat say i love you

[@cai3886]

I'm genuinely getting so annoyed with "feminist" movies, I was actually kind of excited for this movie- I had hope. But nope- people can't seem to write female characters without making a huge political statement. Character development? A molded personality? Why do that when I can just make my character's personality *female*

[@ethanlouis9771]

Exactly. I don't think they get that literally every person has flaws, there's not a single person, male, female, that's perfect. It's like they just make characters in the movie so perfect that it's actually hard to believe that people like that exist.

[@tawnys6172]

Hey, it's not a movie, but you should watch killing eve! It a tv series about a female assassin. The main characters are female and beautifully written without it being a political statement.

[@cai3886]

Tawny yy BruUH I LOVE THAT SHOW ❤️

[@princessazulaofthefirenati5870]

ATLA, my friend. The series not the movie

[@princessazulaofthefirenati5870]

@@tawnys6172 Is it on Netflix, if not then what TV station or channel?

[@kitty14izawsum]

Honestly wasn't the original Charlies angels a movie meant to empower women? I mean the OG movie had three powerful kick ass girls who fought to save the world in a spy like fashion. unless i'm remembering one of my favorite movies wrong. I grew up watching the OC Charlies Angels.

[@dorianleakey]

Why does everyone talk like those movies werent a reboot of an old TV series? I dont understand.

[@kitty14izawsum]

@@dorianleakey cause when I was growing up I didnt know there was a tv show and only saw the movies and watch them, wizard of Oz, and sherley temple movies on repeat along with Pokemon yugioh and what ever was on disney and nick in the late 90s early 2000s. I talk about the charlies angles movies like that cause I only knew the movies and the fact this one was pandering to the whole social justice stuff and feminism that it took a lot away from the movies. Like yeah I know we as a society need to do better but just about every other reboot now a days is feminism good, men bad, and some kind of over the top message about how we as girls need to be empowered and its annoying. Like just make a good action movie with out a damn lesson or shoving some sort of moral down everyone's throat.

[@ArchieRatsworth]

@@kitty14izawsum Its not morals that bug me, it's naked morals that have no depth. Wonderwoman had plenty of morals, the ending has the final antagonist literally arguing for his moral standing while trying to beat a woman into submission and failing because she's strong in her own right. Aliens 3 has a colony of men who chose to live in exile after committing violent crimes, listening to a woman because she knows about the monster trying to murder them all. Both of these are powerful movies with morals, but the morals are for the characters. Diana is powerful but sheltered and unaware of true war, so she's caught by surprise and must draw on her strength, intelligence and compassion in new ways to succeed. Ellen is grieving for her lost child but she has to adjust and keep fighting and trust the criminals she's trapped with.

[@stickyone11]

imagine making a movie about how women dont need men.....then getting mad that men dont go to watch it.

[@jeremywoods770]

...because she needed men to make up those ticket sales

[@smsmsmsmsmsm]

They just need to imagine the circumstances flipped. Like imagine if they made a fully male cast doing very ‘masculine, macho’ activities and being slightly anti-feminist - I doubt that would attract a wide range of women of all ages and sexualities. So I don’t see why the film makers condemned men for not going to see something of the same sentiment, but flipped. It annoys me on behalf of men. Oh god this is a rant... sorry lol

[@jeremywoods770]

@@smsmsmsmsmsm you are absolutely right. Think about magic mike. 'Masculine straight men' didnt flock to see this movie. We mocked it. But enough women flocked to see it, nothing wrong with that. Did magic mike blame their failure on 'not enough men are watching it'? Hell no, it was a success. Charlies angels sucked so bad that women didnt care to go see it either (or at least, not the same amount that watched magic mike)

[@ColossalRay]

Elizabeth Banks: "Men don't go and see films about women! All films with women in the lead role(s) are doomed in this patriarchal society! “ Also Elizabeth Banks: made bank off her appearances in the hunger games franchise.

[@anneneville6255]

Star Wars had also now a female lead ...

[@ColossalRay]

Can you guys please stop responding with successful female lead franchises? I KNOW. I was making fun of Banks for EXACTLY THAT. She's literally in a successful female lead franchise ffs! What are you people not getting about this post that I need to spell out better because I'm at a loss here

[@anneneville6255]

Copperheid comment section is free, so, sorry

[@everymaleidolshusband7470]

I loved Elizabeth so much in the hunger games. She did a great job. So it hurts me so much seing her like this crazy feminazi

[@jeremywoods770]

@@ColossalRay you do understand that everyone naming off a successful female lead franchise is *agreeing* with your point, right? You are basically telling everyone who agrees with you to shut up

[@amoeliono]

I am a guy, and have watch: Hunger Games -Trilogy Star Wars 7-9 Trilogy Ocean 8 Divergent - Trilogy Wonder Woman Captain Marvel Tomb Raider Salt Pitch Perfect - Trilogy The Net -both etc Not all great of course. But leads male/female doesnt matter. Story does.

[@thestranger9608]

I ve supported movies,shows,comics,games and Anime with female characters for my whole life

[@goober5713]

I enjoyed the new Tomb Raider movie

[@jeremywoods770]

Its funny that they say men who hated captain marvel are sexist pigs that hate the idea of a female superhero, but when those same fans say wonder woman was the only part of the dc universe worth saving, they were called sexist pigs that only liked it because she jumps around in a skirt. Its a lose-lose with these assholes

[@fabiomoreira1506]

@@jeremywoods770 IMO Captain Marvel lacked personality, stakes and and epic final fight. One thing i LOVED about Wonder woman was it was not anti man. It was anti war. Diana has flaws and isn't OP. She also admits the ladies from Temyschyra aren't 100% right. Some men are selfless, heroic, sweet.

[@jeremywoods770]

@@fabiomoreira1506 definately. Captain marvel is boring for the same reason superman is boring. They have no character flaws, and they are virtually invincible, so nothing is at stake. Btw they both do the same stupid thing- can survive explosions, getting shot in the face, can rip through steel and yet whenever someone throws a punch, they duck

[@jayess8714]

"There's been 37 Spider-Man films" Dude you were literally Betty Brandt

[@tristanhartup4936]

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

[@naelmohammed9551]

"My angels are not John Wicks, they're not Jason Bournes, they're not James Bonds" Translation....They are not FUN

[@skyflower7778]

Nael Mohammed That point is exactly why they were so awfully boring... I WANT a female John wick, not this crap

[@KIager]

@@skyflower7778 Atomic Blonde was great. Better than any of the Wick sequels.

[@phoebexxlouise]

they are not ACTION movies

[@blackbolt679]

Klager yes if you don’t want a John wick make an atomic blonde

[@wordplay051]

@@KIager hell no. Atomic blonde was cool but John Wick 2 is the best movie in history

[@aleu9895]

that's what happens when you try to turn an already feminist movie into a feminist movie YA BASIC!

[@juanpablorobayo3437]

SwampOgre ohhhhhhhhh

[@mathewbecker8422]

SwampOgre I like you username and picture so much that I imagine shrek say that in mind. So thank you!

[@aleu9895]

@@mathewbecker8422 aw that's nice ┗(＾0＾)┓ I read and write everything in his voice so I get it lol

[@RingTheBella]

Pretty much exactly

[@arikakarin2323]

Indeed.. If they want to see women empowerment they already have it.. This movie basically just bosley's angels

[@Kommiekiller]

Men can’t watch female led movies Except for: Aliens Wonder Woman Xena warrior princess Kill Bill Hunger games Charlies Angels (2000’s) Captain Marvel (even tho it sucked) Thelma and Louise Resident evil Tomb raider Underworld Haywire Sucker Punch Frozen Mulan Lilo and stich Brave Matilda Black swan Gravity Juno Pride and prejudice Lucy Jackie Brown ... Thats some toxic masculinity right there guys

[@Kommiekiller]

Elisa Castro you talking about the movie or the book?

[@TheSuperNats]

Some of those movies did very poorly lol

[@smurphftw2008]

Sucker Punch bombed hard and sucked harder. Most of your examples were good though.

[@laingadaing]

Salt, Kickass, Alita Battle Angel.

[@wahlex841]

Lucy was garbage tbh. But you can throw Mad Max Fury Road in the list, I guess.

[@sir_will_iam]

Remember the good old days of Catwoman and Elektra when people could say that a female led movie was bad without being called some variation of mysogynistic?

[@dejmira]

Good times

[@stevenconley9527]

Catwoman was bad but only because the story was weird and the editing bad.

[@daniboy4153]

Elektra is a guilty pleasure

[@e36fanatics]

@@daniboy4153 what happen to garner... i could of sworn i havent seen her in anything since alias and elektra

[@daniboy4153]

@@e36fanatics She's still acting

[@bannokelly18]

I’m so glad you made a video on this. Elizabeth Banks’s attitude about this movie is a perfect example of what I call “modern white girl feminism.” Which essentially is socially accepted, beautiful white girls throwing a fit anytime something personally effects THEM, or when people don’t blindly praise them for mediocrity. Taylor Swift being another example. I hadn’t seen that clip you showed in beginning but the fact that she had the nerve to say “I’ve been asked to see movies starring men my whole life” as if beautiful skinny blonde white women have never been successful leads in movies. Literally 80% of rom-coms star women who look exactly like Elizabeth Banks. For her to say that when there are literally women of so many different races/ religions/ body types that barley get the same love and representation that she does is appalling to me.

[@MsCorica]

I do agree that it is very weird, as well as disrespectful to a great number of people and that there's virtually no reason for these women's statements to exist. However, I do not think it has that much of a problematic effect, seeing that the general public does not seem to agree with this behaviour at all and is not afraid to show that. Just judging by how (definitely justifiably) heavily these women get criticized, at least on the internet, I would say that there are not necessarily many people finding this acceptable (Example: Brie Larson). Furthermore, I think that this is more of a personal fault in individual women and not necessarily a race thing. In short, I definitely think that this behaviour needs to be stopped before more people get the idea that this is a good way to act but labelling it as a "white girl phenomenon" is, in my opinion, taking it a bit too far. A few women's delusional views and excuses do not account for an entire race, especially not if most other women do not agree with these views at all.

[@bannokelly18]

Mumphley I’m speaking from my own personal viewpoint considering that I myself am a white girl. It annoys me how these classically beautiful white women think they speak for the women population as a whole. And my critiques aren’t solely based on their races. Like I said I’m white, but I also grew up overweight, financially unstable and awkward and would bet that people like Elizabeth Banks and Taylor Swift do not share my same experience or struggles. If I can stick with Taylor Swift for a minute just to give another example, is how Taylor Swift wants to be praised for being a “feminist” who sticks up for women when in actually she sticks up for causes that can be applied to her and sings about things that personally effect her. My example being how she sings about shitty relationships and makes herself out to be the victim in all of them. Yet there are women who have been in actual abusive relationships have survived and pulled themselves out of it, who might see Taylor swifts perspective about men to be irrelevant based on what she’s singing about. Not to invalidate Taylor Swifts feelings, because everyone goes through heartbreak. But she’s the type of person who expects to be praised on the contributions she makes to feminism but never expands on her messages past what happens in her own sheltered world.

[@MsCorica]

@@bannokelly18 I do agree with that. I also do not consider what they're doing to be feminism. Especially when they start using feminism as an excuse for completely idiotic statements (e.g. "Men didn't want my film to be a success" or "Men's opinions on my movies are irrelevant because I am a woman" (solely paraphrasing here, I do not have the nerve to watch the actual statements again)). I also do not think it to be feminism or women empowerment if you rip apart men for not answering your text messages or breaking up with you (as shown by Taylor Swift). I think their behaviour is problematic in the way that people might think that this is what women believe feminism to be and discredit it further. These people are either scrambling for excuses or just want to be praised for something that's absolutely not worthy of praise and I see how that can discredit people that actually fought for themselves and overcame horrible situations. I just had a problem with relating it to race. I know that all the culprits (at least the ones I know about) are white but I truly think that this is primarily an individual problem and people could get the wrong idea if we associated it with race. I do not think their whiteness alone has much to do with their decisions and view points being crappy. It's also relieving to see that most people do not agree with these opinions and speak up about them. Thus, I believe the most damage this behaviour is doing at the moment is discrediting feminism and maybe strengthen some people's believes that white girls are entitled and disrespectful. Obviously, this is still problematic behaviour as other girls and women could see the women in question as role models and start to behave similarly.

[@bannokelly18]

Mumphley I agree wholeheartedly with what your saying. I’m not saying race always plays a factor in these women’s mindset but sometimes it does when it comes to the entitlement. For example Elizabeth Banks and Olivia Wilde throw fits when their movies don’t break the box office and demand the movie going audiences to go support women directors and if they don’t there’s a fundamental flaw in the audiences thinking. However someone like Ava Duverney (I think I spelled that wrong), who is a prominent female black director, I have never heard use her gender or race as an excuse to why her films arent criticality or commercially successful. Meanwhile people like Elizabeth Banks don’t stick their necks out or slam audience members who don’t support Ava, or other female directors (regardless of their race) works because it dosent matter to her. I think Elizabeth Banks even got in trouble because she criticized Stephen Spielberg for not having a female lead in any of his films, when in actuality he directed the color purple with Whoopi Goldberg as the lead. I hope my message isn’t getting lost, I know this isn’t a race issue, I just think in certain instances these women’s sheltered viewpoints can keep them from realizing that not all women need to praise them, and sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes racial and social ignorance has to do with it.

[@MsCorica]

@@bannokelly18 I can definitely see your point about the connection between their entitlement and a secure, sheltered life. People with actual problems or people who actually went through hell are probably way less likely to complain about such petty stuff. Especially in this way. In the end, I think a lot of it comes down to extreme ego problems and a weird perception of the world around them. They try to justify their failures in any way possible and especially in any way that prevents them from taking the fall. (As we all know, directors usually do not have a huge impact on a movie at all and if it fails, they most likely didn't have any part in it.) And the additional warped sense of reality makes it seem okay to them to throw around disrespectful statements to "safe" their own skin (I can't judge whether or not they believe in what they are saying but you need to some kind of weird reality perception if you think it's alright to blame all your problems on men and publicly insult them). And I agree, their defence that they are doing it in the name of feminism and that they want to empower other women completely contradicts the fact that they are only concerned about their own problems and declare them as general social issues while never caring for the problems of other female creators/ women in general or jump to their defence. All in all, these women seemingly just can't live with personal issues and failures and make them into nation/ world wide problems while also ignoring actual problems and being extremely disrespectful about it all. Yikes.

[@addythebattydaddy.x]

16:14 to add on, Demi Moore wearing nothing but lingerie, fur coat, and heels while watching men do the dirty work for her is too iconic. Elizabeth Banks could NEVER.

[@iheartart0827]

That's some boss-ass shit 😂

[@23rdcenturyhobbit]

Giiirlll!!! She worked smarter not harder

[@iheartart0827]

@strontiumXnitrate ok boomer

[@itz7317]

Omg maybe you are on to something I would love a new totally spies movie

[@queenb3730]

OMG YES but animated please

[@barret-xiii]

@@queenb3730 There was one in 2009. It was a prequel/origin story showing how the girls first met and got involved with WOOHP.

[@queenb3730]

@@barret-xiii ik ik I loved it but we want another one hahaha

[@elenastone4260]

I freaking loveedddd that show ❤️❤️

[@KeyOfTheTwilight]

I love totally spies!

[@MFD00MTR33]

The 2000's Charlie's Angles were fun. They were over the top, the actresses had great chemistry and Demi Moore was bad ass.

[@madisonstoner7405]

In the second one, Full Throttle, you can tell that between takes they were cracking each other up, especially with Bernie Mac(RIP). Those movies were FUN.

[@PeepaBerg]

Not only am I sick of reboots in general but I'm also sick of the Disney Live action remakes.

[@Missab4000]

Jenny Spadaccini YES. THIS!!! It’s the height of laziness!!

[@gloryoffandoms4844]

Me too

[@JordanWilliams-ix2td]

YES! people dont kno how to leave Classic shit alone. Hollywood stay ruining peoples childhood.

[@baby_honey9889]

They better not touch princess and the frog. That's my fav Disney movie

[@catlover44477]

im fine with that its just that theyre trying to redo their movies so their old stereotypical and some may say, racist movies, aren’t the topic of discussion when you talk about Mulan for example

[@erinhaury5773]

I am SO here for a Totally Spies live-action movie! I love that show, I don't care that I'm an adult now. Clover is my boo. '.')>

[@candicoated2001]

I want it with the same 60s/70s flower power aesthetic since a lot of the clothes they were is inspired by it. Maybe get Sam Raini to do since, I'm a sucker for the Scooby Woo live actions he did .

[@rand1735]

Janelle Northcut yesssss all the bold bright colors and the huge unrealistic mall and college dorms?? give us magical realism and let us believe that’s what school is like.

[@kokaioh9942]

Don't tell Banks though. She might want to redeem herself.

[@phoebexxlouise]

PSEUDO FEMINIST!! That's the word!! xx

[@technicallyturtles7148]

Real talk: I would watch the hell out of Ninja Turtles on ice.

[@josemanuelzamora4949]

This post made me laugh. I would give it a try as well. Don’t be one of those people that sees nostalgia and says: shut up and take my money.

[@loganmansiongames]

Watch Batman V.S. TMNT or the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie those are a Perfect for TMNT fans.

[@avi4875]

"Hi. I'm a woman and I didn't like your movie." Is exactly what I said and was then explained to how the patriarchy has conditioned me to dislike movies made by women and I have given up.

[@s_archive1]

Totally Spies would be a great live action movie actually

[@princessazulaofthefirenati5870]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSS

[@s_archive1]

@@princessazulaofthefirenati5870 contact nearby director quickly

[@user-oq2eh1fo2s]

As long as it doesn’t take itself too seriously, it would be so awesome.

[@monti_skunk]

I'd *totally* act in or watch that!

[@jessek8114]

Or Kim Possible.

[@MrDiaxus]

Why is everyone saying it's fine to believe that women are better than men? That's as sexist as its counterpart. Edit 2 months later: "Everyone" is a common vernacular, and obviously cannot mean literally everyone, or else I would literally be targeting myself as well. Saying "everyone" was watching Tiger King does not mean there was not a person on earth not watching Tiger King.

[@MrDiaxus]

@strontiumXnitrate I'm just glad it's finally being discussed. I'm pretty sure we lost 10+ years to this nonsense.

[@FrancisTheWalnut]

Honestly, I think there's a reason for this. Whenever a movement changes sides, it always swings back in full force. It always takes a bit of time for it to balance out. Like the bloodiness of the French Revolution as a result of the oppressive Estate systems. So yeah, women have been oppressed for thousands of years. That's a fact. And now the movement is swinging back and it'll take some time before it settles in a happy middle. I just hope we can get there as soon as possible.

[@MrDiaxus]

@@FrancisTheWalnut As a cause, I would generally agree, although not entirely. Peterson makes some solid points about limitations nature put on women (birth control and feminine care products made huge stride in overcoming them), and as a whole men have guarded and protected women, not abused them. That aside, my question is of morality. We agree that it is wrong to say men are better than women without any context, yet the opposite is not held as true. This is morally wrong, and needs to be destroyed as a morally neutral or good position.

[@FrancisTheWalnut]

​@@MrDiaxus Yeah I agree that this mindset needs to be shifted as soon as possible I was providing an explanation of why this crap even exists

[@MrDiaxus]

@@FrancisTheWalnut And your explanation is pretty solid in my view, just with caveats.

[@Mgauge]

How are fights more “tactical” when you give the characters a tool that instantly disables any opponent? That’s not creative, it’s just a lazy “I win” button.

[@ishanmaddalwar8196]

Geostomp exactly! I agree with you so much

[@xtum_art]

Totally Spies > Charlie's Angels Change my mind.

[@wildfire0123]

Eh the original Charlie’s angels is actually pretty good. But yeah totally spies is a lot better

[@princessazulaofthefirenati5870]

ATLA, Power Puff girls(theme song play), Winx club, Sailor Moon, AND Totally spies (Love that) greater than this movie

[@madeinjamaica7025]

@@princessazulaofthefirenati5870 and w.i.t.c.h and monster high and ever after high. Ahhhh.... I love my childhood.

[@makegeorgeorwellfictionaga9268]

The original Charlies Angels was already feminist

[@DemonicRemption]

@identity Europa IKR? So why try to fix something THAT ISN'T BROKEN?!

[@makegeorgeorwellfictionaga9268]

@@DemonicRemption I was trying to make the point that they did not have to take it even further

[@wallyman292]

yeah, but not the right kind of feminist. They believed they were equal to men. You're not a "true" feminist today unless you feel your superior in every way.

[@hairbeauty8083]

@@wallyman292 ahhh okay now i see what i was missing

[@moneky6962]

Dude, people who say that feminism is about being better than men are full of shit and it sucks but most actual feminists also understand how idiotic and sexist that is

[@WanderKrew]

“Men don’t like female lead films” Imma go rewatch Mad Max: Fury Road real quick hang on

[@aitor.online]

watching alien brb😂

[@ianesgrecia8568]

Watching resident evil

[@drumrocka]

Watching terminator 2, brb

[@andysee6996]

Funny enough, the success of Mad Max: Fury Road (along with the Kamala Khan version of Ms. Marvel) is probably the reason why we have so much SJW media right now. At the time, it was acclaimed for having a strong feminist message in a film franchise primarily for men with women who weren't primarily defined by their relationships that take down an allegory for the patriarchy. Thing is, that's not what George Miller intended. He just wanted to make a film about survivors escaping a dystopic regime. Furthermore, you had positive male characters like Max and Nux who played a major role in Furiosa's victory. A lot of lesser writers looked at this as just a way to say that women are better than men with extremist feminist groups on social media making this view of the world look like what the majority of Americans actually thought.

[@King_Rev_3994B.B.Y]

“Men don’t like female leads” 1900s Disney has entered the chat

[@sebces2576]

The main problem with Captain Marvel wasn’t that it was an “SJW movie” or “man hating”, but because Carol literally had no depth, no flaws and was just written really badly.

[@spenser9908]

But you were ok with the man-hating though?

[@franciscoastorga8299]

The movie was ok, but Carol Danvers was really unlikable.

[@nation5743]

@Carne Guisada You are a special child.

[@emmae2520]

The more people say this, the more I question my own memory. From my perspective, Carol had depth, or at least, the depth one could reasonably expect from an amnesiac action star. Maybe I just filled in gaps that weren't there and figured they were implied. I was particularly swayed by Maria and Monica Rambeau

[@TVegaC]

I don't think the character was written THAT badly, I mean is mediocre but I can see myself like it. The problem was Brie Larson. The way she acted was sooooo annoying, bland and boring.

[@whatsawhizzerwebnovels4927]

"I've been asked to go to see male-lead movies, men should return the favor." -Every man dragged out to see a chickflick would like to have a word with you. I mean, this is a thing so prevalent it's actually a cliche, a man dragging his feet as his woman drags him out to a theater or some artsy flick. Do you know what isn't so common it's a cliche? Women reluctantly being dragged to action flicks. It's like she literally took the narrative and said the exact opposite and hoped noone would notice... and noone did!

[@donkrouskop1582]

I like the fact that she used the word "asked" to, as if the mere act of asking a woman to, of her own volition, go and do something that in any way benefits a man constitutes sexism & patriarchal bias. So, Liz, what you're saying is that men have asked you if you wanted to go see movies starring men, you said "yes" and went, but your willingness to do so means you've been subjugated, demeaned, and made unequal? The problem with this CHARLIE'S ANGELS was Elizabeth Banks, plain and simple.

[@bamacapt115]

Elizabeth Banks will be silent, when later this year Wonder Woman and Black Widow dominate the box office.

[@bplionel2]

This comment isn't aging well.

[@bamacapt115]

@@bplionel2 both movies will be pushed back so they will have a theatrical release when this pandemic is over....so the comment will hold up.

[@lonelygod6496]

@@bamacapt115 better be pushed back to after a vaccine is finished or else this quarantine is pointless.

[@123ciyyy]

When an actual feminist calls out a toxic “Femanist” 👏👏👏

[@woobiefuntime]

I loved this movie because it reminded of James Blond

[@spiritxdancer]

strontiumXnitrate you mean like making an entire video critiquing the work of a “damaging feminist?”

[@olivebranch7769]

@strontiumXnitrate Huh? What are you talking about, this whole video was about critiquing misandry and damaging feminists. I'm confused at who or what your issue is.

[@aaaaan8312]

strontiumXnitrate umm excuse me but I do have to ask What do ‘actual’ feminists need to do to fight off these misandrist ‘feminists’ to be considered as doing soemthing for u? I hate to say this but look Apart from making a video like this or replying to those shitty fake feminists comments trying to correct them What can we do? Am I suppose to just protest in groups for fake feminists to do something? Like what do u expect actual feminists to do other than correcting misandrists or misogynists if we come across them irl or online Ngl I dun think any protests would work for social issues rooted from individuals So what should we do?

[@speeeee35]

It was so odd... they wanted to like.... take away the word “angel” as if it was being used in a misogynistic way. Like, ok... yes, the women were always attractive and used their beauty as a benefit to trick men and shit (which Ok- if you’re gonna be inherently sexualized, may as well use it to cream the person doing it to you lol)... but they weren’t called Angels like in the way a man rudely calls a woman “Sweetie”, they were called Angels because they always saved the day.... they always came in clutch for Charlie and achieved his mission... HIS ANGELS. Like yes, it called on them being pretty... but it was also literal LOL. Well literal in the sense of an angel being a savior anyway.... not literal like they were actual angels with wings growing out their back lol.

[@bababooeybababooey]

I think using your sex appeal is definitely okay! Both for men and women, but you can't have just that as your character. James bond is charming but he got more going on for him and same goes for black widow. And you can also write characters that don't make use of good looks like batman or wonderwoman

[@jaycee3177]

"Can we do a Winx Club movie?" Well, that aged well

[@queenoffabulous2156]

the monkeys paw curled another finger

[@hellogoodbye4061]

Banks went so far with her feminist agenda that she refused to hire any male staff in the making of this woke movie, right down to the tech crew and caterers, you know, for, um, equality.

[@layth6857]

Seriously? That's doing too much

[@hellogoodbye4061]

@@layth6857 It's the truth...simple google search would confirm.

[@iPrimitive]

Shit dude for real? Damn that's extremely unnecessary. That's just completely immature. She deserved what got out of the movie.

[@noahreisner5199]

There isn’t a feminist agenda. Elizabeth banks is a rich white woman who doesn’t understand the actual struggle of women in America. Feminism is important and necessary and we shouldn’t discredit that, Elizabeth Banks just doesn’t get feminism.

[@colette.78]

yeah if they want men to watch it they should hire at least one man to help with that insight

[@AmandaDavis6130]

Best show of the “women approach fighting differently” thing I’ve seen was in Atomic Blonde. Lorraine used a lot of her environment and clever thinking to fight, but it was no less brutal for her being a woman. Her smacking someone into a wall and someone smacking her into a wall felt equally visceral. On the flip side you have stuff like Avengers, where the action is highly stylized. And yet Black Widow’s fighting feels the most extravagant precisely because she can’t just punch someone through a wall (and using the dancer/assassin background of the character). This is kinda ramble-y, but basically you can make more interesting fight scenes than the Charlie’s Angels movie had, even with a “women fight differently” mindset.

[@thebubonicj]

Banks made me feel like I was at the dentist getting yelled at about flossing every day. That's why I didn't see it. Also it looked like a lame idea to begin with.

[@RockDavid]

I feel ya, this marketing was a joke and this whole "WE HATE MEN' idea was dumb, the movie honestly wasn't that bad, if you see it for 1 or 3 dollars, rent it it wasn't bad... Hell even in the movie the "Woke" level was 10x higher in End game than this movie. C. angels is about girls that fight crime that was the story from 40 years ago to now...and it's stil that... This marketing man, they really F'd over their crowd and income ...

[@Dreadjaws]

Banks made me feel like I was at the dentist being yelled _even though_ I already floss every day.

[@TwighlightLugia]

Banks made me feel like I'm at the dentist getting yelled at about flossing every day, even though she's not actually a dentist and is just some crazy lady who walked into the lobby to yell at strangers.

[@KillTheFuture42]

the statement at the start was so odd. she was staring in a reboot of a movie with 3 women in the leading roles and acts like the concept of a female on film is something ground breaking new, with only these sexist males stoping it from becoming a hit.

[@sportsjefe]

Which is based on a TV action series from the 70s made of, guess what... 3 starring women.

[@Drakonus_]

Patrick Stewart's the least villain-like actor in the industry, AND THEY CHOSE HIM.

[@equusquaggaquagga536]

He was the villain in "conspiracy theory".

[@stromaufwaerts-b7w]

He was a great villain in GREEN ROOM

[@josephmartins8882]

@Drakonus One word for ya: Magneeto

[@Drakonus_]

@@josephmartins8882 But Patrick Stewart was Professor X, though?

[@thenumber27issomehowtaken]

@@josephmartins8882 I think you might be blind

[@givemeaminutetothink]

a W.I.T.C.H. live action would be cool, i'd also be down for a Winx Club one though....Dragon Tales would get real weird real fast, that show was wild

[@kickhoppa5891]

Yo W.I.T.C.H would be sick

[@Skullkidjynx]

Wind club WAS MY SHIT

[@shadotarot]

Congratulation man! Winx are getting a live action adaptation. But Witch would be great thou. But with how the series creator react to the animation, I doubt that they'd allow it.

[@d__x2555]

I'd be nervous about Winx, their new animations have lost their charm, hopefully a live action would go well!

[@btaylerpackard2475]

My god a W.I.T.C.H movie would be great! Slightly unrelated but another magic girl female led movie was Twitches (twin witches) that Disney channel did. I LOVED those movies as a kid made me feel like I could be a badass with my sister. It's like Hollywood forgot how to make a character so they just started going with making someone's gender/sex/race their entire character

[@monnniiieee9130]

She ruined her own movie damn . Charlie’s Angels 1 & 2 from 90s and early 2000s were a lot better

[@arikakarin2323]

Indeed.. I ended up dissapointed .. I really want to see "Charlie's Angel" .. I ended up seeing "bosley's angels."

[@jesssaling6750]

So it was you that brought the curse of the netflix winx club upon us

[@PoochieCollins]

hahaha

[@wilcohillebrand1458]

What made Charlie's Angels unique and special was destroyed when they revealed there is more angels I mean what made them cool for me at least was they were one of a kind or so I thought

[@klu5301]

If Cameron, drew & Lucy came back for CA3.. that would be a reboot I’d support!

[@CaseyKiddRap]

K Lu If only Cameron wasn’t retired :(

[@lemonscentedcloroxwipes]

@@CaseyKiddRap She's retired?! Aw man

[@lemonscentedcloroxwipes]

@@CaseyKiddRap Aww, I quite liked some of the movies she played in. Thanks for the info!

[@CaseyKiddRap]

Golda panin No problem!

[@CaseyKiddRap]

Golda panin My mistake. I said “that movie” was her last and didn’t realize the video was a Charlie’s Angels review. Cameron‘s last movie was the 2014 reboot of the musical Annie.

[@shieldmaiden3760]

Hollywood feminists: "Your makeup must always be perfect to be a real woman."

[@KIager]

But Daniel Craig looks all busted up and cool after a struggle or an explosi- *NO YOU'RE A WOMAN PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT NOW LOOK PRETTY FOR THE CAMERA SWEETIE*

[@redstorm4111]

Klager it’s like they don’t remember at all how popular Sarah Connor was in Terminator 2. She wasn’t all glamorous and shit. She was a fucking warrior and it was awesome. More of that please, Hollywood

[@noa3897]

You: Let's get a winx club live action! Me, watching this on december 2020: 👁👄👁

[@elpikky973]

I like Cameron Díaz, lucy liu and drew berrymore!

[@thegameshowguy1]

jorge973 And Bill Murray did a great job playing Bosley!

[@angelwings1979]

Thank you for actually getting the premise of Charlie's Angels! Both the TV show and the original movies were exactly about how men discount women as threats and how successful a woman can be in espionage. You're the first channel to talk about this. This is exactly why the other Charlie's Angels projects were so great.

[@madamebkrt]

And both women and men LOVED it!

[@tahustvedt]

My favourite movie is Alien. Ripley's a badass. In Aliens she's even more badass, but I saw some feminists criticise it because she's risking her life to save a child, and that puts her in a "mother" role.

[@fabiomoreira1506]

She IS a mother. She was in hypersleep while her child grew old and died.

[@iamjackspyramidshapedhelmet]

I hate this. Women have to be ‘strong’ but...can’t be feminine. Feminine bad. People need to realize that a good female character is a well written and complex one not a male action hero in a female body.

[@GARYHODGKINSON]

@@fabiomoreira1506 Only in the extended director's cut, in the theatrical release all those scenes were removed, personally I feel it was better without them, she saves newt because it's the right thing to do, removed from any guilt she might feel about her own family.

[@taste_is_sweet]

That's wild. She also put her life on the line to protect a dude and a robot.

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

Gary Hodgkinson that girl from alien isolation is also her daughter

[@B33nj4m1n]

People like Elizabeth Banks: “I don’t need white, cis men to see my movie!” After the inevitable failure at the box office: “The reason my movie didn’t do so well is toxic, sexist, men!🤬”

[@cleverlyblonde]

Or... "I'll make a movie to prove my flawed argument so I can say I was right. I don't actually care about moving society forward, I just want to win arguments I create."

[@stevenconley9527]

"Just following orders, sir"