Charlie: The Tragic Character

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[@harveytomos4959]

I feel the newer seasons of it's always sunny (particularly noticed it watching season 15) have become much more on the nose. I don't know if there's a discussion there just interests me.

[@alixsilver7504]

I want to know how many people are killed in BoJack Horseman, all seasons. Mostly because I'm bored.

[@fabianmata2223]

It would be cool to hear you talk about Psych

[@indigo6067]

I would watch videos for every Always Sunny character!

[@angrycrab5501]

@@fabianmata2223 yessssss

[@mr.moviemafia]

Now let's talk about Charlie. Can we talk about Charlie please, Mac? I've been dying to talk about Charlie with you all day!

[@jordaneggerman4734]

Why don't you smoke a cigarette and calm down? Barney, give him a cigarette.

[@sonzillamariocraft]

@@jordaneggerman4734 Barney? WHO THE HELL IS BARNEY?!

[@NScott42]

@@sonzillamariocraft YOU DON’T SEE BAR- Oh shit.

[@duderman3024]

@@NScott42 You LOSS YOUR MIND You LOSS your godamn mind

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

I want a Charlie day!

[@spliffyrodgers4266]

Charlie is honestly the only main character that has the potential to be a good person tbh he feels as much a victim of the gang as a member

[@reidp1727]

Rewatch "Charlie and Dee find love"

[@spliffyrodgers4266]

@@reidp1727 yeah thats why I said he has the potential to be good not that he is

[@captainmacmellon8909]

I'd argue that Mac has potential to be redeemed but Dennis, Dee and Frank are irredeemable

[@HannibalTorrance]

Dee used to be a really good person but she hit her head in a roller skating accident, causing her to be cranky forever.

[@themartiangobi]

@@spliffyrodgers4266really hes like the others in the gang but with no shame

[@MrBlackLenses]

“We know that Uncle Jack at least tried” Nah, he got him. He got him.

[@Dillbob1]

He got right in there

[@dipdop9734]

Uncle Jack payed the troll toll in advance

[@UniverseGamerLumi]

@@dipdop9734 he got inside the boys hole

[@thecpmr6276]

Fuck what episode is that quote from?

[@RabidDisposition]

​@@thecpmr6276almost positive it is the "times up for the gang" episode.

[@Minnazs]

Ngl, realizing the troll was his mom gave me literal goosebumps. I don’t know if the writers actually thought of that? Man that’s dark

[@MistaShawn]

Oh my god....."you gotta pay the troll toll to get in...." Holy sheiza...wow...

[@birdmanbytheclaw]

I love how the waitress is married to Charlie in real life.

[@veggiesupreme3556]

And Dennis is married to the pharmacist from the Dennis system

[@Dac_DT_MKD]

And Mac is married to Sweet Dee (bird)

[@HOTD108_]

And Frank is married to all of us

[@spadinnerxylaphone2622]

I think Charlie and Mac's relationship might deserve it's own section. It's overlooked, but the two of them might be the genuine best friendship (by default) in the show.

[@nexus5253]

You can see how he’s got a better chance of being a better person than anyone else from the gang. He’s not a great person himself but compared to the rest of the gang he’s way better.

[@SmoothAdventure]

He kidnapped a writer, trapped a little person, and was perfectly fine torturing and/or killing them.

[@sentientcardboarddumpster7900]

@@SmoothAdventure I love seeing people try to say one character or another isn't as bad as the others. They are all horrible people, in different ways. They all are capable of doing truly terrible things and have done them

[@geraldbrowder5806]

He “cruel intentioned” that rich girl too with literally no remorse

[@nexus5253]

I didn’t say he was a good person but he’s still better than the rest of the gang.

[@sentientcardboarddumpster7900]

@@nexus5253 have to disagree

[@trinity3272]

I always thought the dayman represented Mac. The characters main traits are karate and friendship, he was who Charlie spent his days with and he was Charlie’s first choice to play the dayman

[@blackironwalterkus3851]

Maybe but probably not cause he just made that shit up while high with dennis

[@MarioGarcia-io9gj]

I always just thought that's who he wanted to be, karate equals mac yes, but as kids, mac talking about karate to beat people up sounds cool as a kid. But Charlie learns mac knows nothing about it. And friendship, comes from Charlie wanting a real connection

[@fabianmata2223]

All I’m going to say is that the season 15 finale made me sob uncontrollably. The only other time when the show made me that sad is Mac coming out to his dad at the end of the season 13 finale

[@kungfubrandon6886]

two of my least favorite moments

[@treytonjohnson1]

@@kungfubrandon6886 really? I love the show occasionally giving us really interesting character defining moments

[@kungfubrandon6886]

@@treytonjohnson1 I don't, it doesn't fit the show for me. If this was another sitcom then sure but always sunny even if it had heartwarming moments were very light. Like the gang throwing charlie a birthday party. They never had this whole performance about a character moment. That's what made them good characters to me, they knew their faults and knew the truth but pretend they don't to keep up appearances. Not even to mention the fact that frank isn't Charlie's dad anymore and mac became a complete docile character

[@bexfun]

@@kungfubrandon6886 abs loved that episode

[@kungfubrandon6886]

@@bexfun to each their own I guess 😁

[@stipevedder]

Honestly I think that Charlie’s mother is by far one of the most evil people on the show considering that uncle jack did or at least tried to abuse him and his mother knew about it

[@Thegbear]

Think about the Troll Toll song. She didn’t just know about it.

[@braydencoversbeatles4029]

When you consider how she reacted when she thought Charlie had been molested by the teacher in season one I don’t think she did know about it

[@themartiangobi]

also means that uncle jack is one of the most evil people on the show

[@panonymousbloom5405]

​@@braydencoversbeatles4029i think she's just so deep in denial. I'm pretty sure she even says somewhere in the series "Oh Jack would never" when directly confronted about him being a predator. She's kind of comes across as just as/more guliable as/than Charlie. The troll line can still fit - maybe she got paid so someone could "hang out" or "play" with him and she just... Didn't question it much.

[@RWTHRLL]

@@panonymousbloom5405no it's regarding how he would rent charlie's room from her, they talk about it in the great recession episode, she owns the house, she didn't need to rent charlie's room but she does purely for extra cash, even though charlie hates it

[@Phillycheeeeze]

Perfect video… When I first saw Charlie break down next to his dead father, I cried with him because of how tragic his life was before and him finally getting closure only for it to be taken away is just to much .. Charlie Day really sold that scene 👏🏼

[@SirDistic]

Charlie was pretty normal at the start of the show. However after the steroids episode when he takes dozens of headshots with boards, bottles etc and does some off-brand drugs that make him crazy and angry, similar to roid rage, he becomes unstable and goes heavily into glue and paint. My theory is that all those blows to the head mixed with the drugs caused brain damage. So all the huffing he does now is adding to it. Which is why he has a prominent learning disability. And yes I think his uncle molested him. Look at the episode where the McPoyles accuse the coach of molestation. He mentions that he was molested and we find out it wasn't from the coach. However when he's asked to show where he was touched on the doll he looks at his uncle, who is overly into the sex part of the molestation trauma.

[@K37-h1z]

Charlie had been huffing for yrs prior though, it doesn't help, but it existed before the head trauma. The head trauma is a very interesting take

[@ElioMiles]

They talk about this on the sunny podcast, they pretty much said that obviously he has brain damage but there wasn’t just one event that “changed” his character, it’s just more and more brain damage

[@andyroobrick-a-brack9355]

Charlie's love of inhalants has been established since the beginning of season 1.

[@sentientcardboarddumpster7900]

That scene with Charlie breaking down over his dads body had me ugly crying.

[@Schoolgirl325]

Charlie’s a pretty awful person himself, and, to be fair. He’s toxic to his friends, the Waitress, and his acquaintances on many occasions, such as in “Charlie Rules the World.” Dennis, Dee, Frank, and Mac are quite toxic to him on many occasions, too. However, it definitely is a recurring theme that Charlie is the closest thing to a morality pet that the rest of the Gang has. Frank genuinely loves and values Charlie the most of the Gang. He’s the nicest to him. Dennis will still insult him and get angry with him, but he actually puts in a genuine effort to not lose his shit with Charlie, whereas with everyone else, he really doesn’t care. He argues with Charlie far less than he does with Dee, Frank, or Mac when they hang out together, and he doesn’t fuck with him nearly as much as he does with Dee, Frank, or Mac. When it’s just the two of them hanging out, Dennis usually gets along with him pretty well. Far better than he does with Frank, Mac, and Dee when it’s just them hanging out. Mac gets angry with Charlie quite a bit, but they’ve known each other since childhood. When it’s just the two of them, Dee and Charlie often get along pretty well as a team, until or unless Dee takes it too far. In one episode, when they notice Charlie’s been having a rough day, and Frank tells them it’s his birthday, Dennis, Dee, and Mac all come together to actually do something nice for him.

[@panonymousbloom5405]

Dennis also takes care to try and calm Charlie down when he's having meltdowns, and sometimes shows concern for his physical state, which is unusual for the gang. To add on to Mac - Mac is very bossy with Charlie but I think that's just kind of their dynamic since he sort of plays his "older brother figure" and oftentimes, he's like that to prevent Charlie from doing something stupid (like pulling him away from people, taking away a drink from him etc). He's also pretty much the most patient in the gang when it comes to explaining things to Charlie, and trying to understand him. (Bonus, that one adorable clip when Charlie reads something on the door, and Mac is like "good job bud, almost got it right" but genuinely.)

[@andyroobrick-a-brack9355]

Charlie is very much the little brother of the Gang.

[@Rewcifer]

These character spotlights are great!

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Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Distracted2004]

I want to point out though that although the scene on the mountain is the first time Charlie breaks down onscreen, in the Highschool reunion episode he mentions getting high and sad in the bathroom while others made fun alongside the other traits and such the gang used to have in school, which implies that he has continuously pushed that tendency down since in favor of being as you said a more positive force in the group, which I think makes that last Ireland episode all the more cathartic and meaningful to his character as someone who regularly plays or actually is numb and/or oblivious to his own tragedy

[@RedTail1-1]

Despite the premise and subject matter of the show, they have some REALLY great heartbreaking tearjerking moments... When Mac's dance scene first aired I was literally balling my eyes out. A grown-ass hardened Army Veteran, just pouring tears. I could not believe how accurately they portrayed the struggle of a closeted homosexual man(I'm not gay but I could clearly understand the message they were putting out). Towards the end I was becoming happy for him. I started thinking "this is so nice, now maybe his father and others will understand him".... Then... Then his father gets up and storms out of the room.... The rollercoaster never ends. I got emotional whiplash..

[@delfin5418]

I really would like a follow up episode to the one where Charlie dumped Ruby and now she has this obsession with him just like how Charlie had with the Waitress, it’d be a nice twist

[@marlboroortoiletananasdasdas]

Lol

[@leoalcaraz6153]

This last season has a strangely sweet ending

[@slanderman3296]

His mom is basically cartman's mom. "Chessie poof charlie" "Hell yeah I wanna cheesie poof"

[@internziko]

Charlie is so adorable

[@8jakeP8]

Dang made me tear up like I was watching an anime. Great work!

[@Yorokobi224]

This is my follow up the the Pop Detective Nightman video. Charlie's Work is my fav episode of Sunny

[@cosplayerqueen9878]

Tbh im CONVINCED the Waitress' name is Nicki Potnick. In the school reunion episode, Frank steals a nametag that says "Nicki Potnick". Then, Waitress comes in later on in the episode and is like "They didnt even have a nametag for me" SO, I think that they DID have a nametag for her, but Frank stole it. Therefore, her name is Nicki Potnick.

[@Yorokobi224]

@7:25... I haven't seen this season yet and I'm weeping... It's raining

[@papercutsunset]

Though the bloopers aren't canon, I find them interesting when thinking about Charlie's childhood. Specifically, the bloopers from the recession episode, from the scene where Charlie, Bonnie, and Jack are sitting around the table-- I don't know, I think it's interesting.

[@RWTHRLL]

oh Geah when he straight says jack rapes kids and he barely survived his childhood? i thought it was so wierd!

[@darthtader5802]

In my opinion the tragic character is Mac. In my opinion he might have been a good person if it wasn’t for his parents and the other members of the gang. Most of the bad things he does are because of his insecurity caused by his neglectful parents. Also he’s never done anything nearly as bad as the other members of the gang, all of whom have ruined people’s lives and even gotten them killed in some cases, this includes Charlie who bit off part of that mall Santas throat in the Christmas episode. Sure Mac does some pretty bad things but he’s not that bad when compared to the rest of the gang.

[@Jackmarmar]

Great video. Those transition sound effects are fucking hilarious! Really loved the Nightman breakdown, never thought of Charlie's mother as the troll but like, of course.

[@ArtistRiley]

He's well adjusted

[@legoghostyoda]

maaaaan shiet, i didn’t finish season 15 because i didn’t really like it, but it’s super super disappointing to find out that frank isn’t charlie’s real father, even if that is the point of the story arc :(

[@fabianmata2223]

Finish it, it’s worth it for the finale alone. It will make you cry

[@legoghostyoda]

@@fabianmata2223 alright, i definitely will. i checked out around the monkey episode, i liked it but didn’t have a drive to finish it especially during finals week

[@indigo6067]

The Ireland episodes have some absolutely hysterical moments. Would recommend finishing it!

[@ilreideimostri]

It's a SUPER weak season. But there are some funny moments. The show isn't as good as it used to be but I think that people are generally aware of that.

[@masterzombie161]

Wouldn’t be ironic that the waitress shows up pregnant or already has Franks baby from season 13 the wade boggs 2 episode. Charlie would end up raising franks bastard like he did with Dee and Dennis.

[@veggiesupreme3556]

Yeh they seemed to drop that story line

[@psykolikwid]

Awesome video!

[@rachels9776]

That scene in season 15 and the dance in Mac Finds His Pride will forever make me sob. Somehow these assholes from Philly will never fail to make me feel such deep emotion. Amazing video.

[@nataelgarcia3722]

I've grown to love charlie as a character, hearing about his trauma makes me horribly sad

[@xdcatalyst9330]

Let's get the rest of the gang please ❤ great work!

[@aprilk141]

Charlie loves cheese, magnets, little green ghouls, and bashing rats.

[@insert_apathetic]

I love how in comparison to everyone else in the gang, Charlie is like an angel.

[@aprilk141]

I keep putting this video back on with breaks from watching a film in the house. Every time i hear Charlie, I think it's The Majority Report talking about Charlie Kirk, who is clearly traumatized and not too gifted...

[@WSendam]

I thought his life was a tragedy but it’s a comedy

[@enriquedjalo4270]

One ting though, if his mum is a Kelly, Uncle Jack is also a Kelly... How the f*** is his dad, Shelley, a Kelly? It would make more sense if they married in Ireland and for some reason he took her last name... But they never married. Inconsistency makes a lot of sense after 15 seasons, but as a TV writer myself I want to think there is a logical reasoning behind it, so if anyone knows a bit more😅

[@1337snake888]

maybe Shelley and Charlie's mom coincidentally had the same last name

[@willywompa9663]

okay i never watched this show but the part where all these strangers (im assuming his moms “clients” or sketchy people his mom invited?) are giving him gifts tripped me out. my dad was an addict and always invited prostitutes, they DO in fact bring you presents and stuff when they come over lmao i still have something one of my dad’s prostitute friends gave me when i was 10

[@VeryDAWD]

4:07 he was taught how to speak Irish, Gaelic is a culture and the term used for the languages spoken in Scotland. In Ireland, Gaelic (football) is a sport.

[@deshawnedwards6412]

Can you finally do a on Louise Belcher now? Well, can you wait three months when The Bob's Burgers Movie come out and then do a video talking about her?

[@matucomedes]

i really think day man represents what mac was for his life

[@winterburden]

I'm also kind of obsessed with The Waitress 🙇‍♀️

[@thomasj3701]

Smashing someone with a hammer is just being from Philly

[@MDGgamin]

Who is Pepe Silvia ?

[@myahstrauser]

Pennsylvania. Charlie is illiterate, so he thought every letter was addressed to someone named Pepe Sylvia when he was really just reading “Pennsylvania”

[@AnAverageGoblin]

@@myahstrauser Debunked but the one who was asked liked that take on the scene

[@mr.moviemafia]

3:12 Uncredited Christopher Lloyd cameo

[@Gabroidz]

Damn, sick vid

[@HorrorAtMidnight12]

Do one on mac please

[@athfcoz]

"Goddammit, I can't do this! I'm sorry, Dad! I can't do it! This isn't fair... I shouldn't have to carry you up this hill! You never carried me up a hill! You never picked me up from school, you didn't read me bedtime stories, you didn't carry me on your shoulders, you didn't bounce me on... You weren't there! And I needed you! I needed you there. You were supposed to carry me! You were supposed to carry- Ah, Frank's right, I'm glad you're dead! I'm glad you're dead! Now, I don't have to spend the rest of my life waiting for you to pick me up!"

[@cookledookie]

the title should’ve been charlie, the wild card

[@quanicle101]

charlie’s guilty of a lot of fucked up shit but i can’t help but feel like he never stood a chance of being normal. his life was fucked since childhood

[@impastabowl2328]

I think it's kind of funny and definitely on purpose that Charlie is the day man. Charlie DAY-man.

[@nicktaylor2657]

Frank and Charlie actually got gay married so Charlie could get on Frank health care plan So Charlie married a man who he thought might be his father 😳

[@mismissy]

In the words of Sweet Dee. That got dark

[@richardk54]

It's been 3 weeks where's our new video

[@10KProductions]

tomorrow

[@AllTheOthers]

You neglected to mention that Dee is the only other one who ever looks out for him, yet she ends up S.AIng him.

[@adamgardiner5869]

I feel like the blood bucket wasn't taken seriously enough and may still prove Frank is his real dad.

[@wtfsamusidk7574]

Because of the implication

[@thewillofabeast9079]

Everyone in the gang had to rough growing up. Mac had a father who was a criminal and was oblivious at what was wrong, like when he thought breaking into people’s houses and stealing presents was normal. Dennis and Dee had a father who took joy in seeing them down and had a skank of a mother. Charlie quite possibly had it worse. His mom was a prostitute and didn’t know until much later in his life, he developed a habit of sniffling glue and other toxic substances that most definitely affected his judgement, and almost got assaulted by his uncle. While that’s not an excuse for all the crap they’ve done, you can kinda see how they turned out the way they did.

[@whoozyyy]

Charlie is actually married to the waitress IRL

[@nexus5253]

That’s why it’s also a funny meta gag.

[@whoozyyy]

@@nexus5253 yup same with Dee and Mack, and then Dennis hits on a chick in an episode who he is married to as well.

[@avrinrose5457]

Can You Talk About Kaitou Joker?

[@taroknight8464]

I never knew the nightman was uncle Jack I thought he had sleep paralysis!!!!

[@aspie-anarchist9854]

Also it's unfortunate that humans tend to want people they can't have because they fantasize and distort who they think the person. Then when yiu date them you realize the reality that they are a real person who doesn't conform to delusions of who they are. At least I have learned that lesson the hard way and I know I'm not alone

[@klemchowder1692]

Shelley Kelly is an uncle at BEST

[@shawnhornick1901]

His name is Shelly Kelly and Charlie… never mind answered my own question

[@zacklee2692]

these are not real problems Charlie. you just make this stuff up.

[@thongis]

the waitress's name could be nicki potnick because frank took that name tag in the high school reunion episode and she said they "didn't have one" so frank could have just taken the tag meant for her.

[@theworldisfallingapart867]

the writers have explicitly stated that the waitress is not nicki potnick

[@alexandermclaughlin4742]

UHHH FILIBUSTER

[@Mrakatsuki190]

Nicki is the waitress name the high school reunion ep. frack stole her name tag

[@elak9241]

8:28 What do you mean? It's Nikki Potnick. :^)

[@veggiesupreme3556]

It’s not

[@LaurenCH528]

Glenn said in a tweet a long time ago that that's not her name. but it does make more sense to think it is

[@veggiesupreme3556]

@@LaurenCH528 they drove Nikki potnicks car into a tree

[@LaurenCH528]

@@veggiesupreme3556 I know. that doesn't prove it's the waitress

[@aspie-anarchist9854]

Seriously do not do inhalents. The "high" feeling is literally just brain cells dying.

[@kirbycooper9496]

HOLY SHIT CHARLIE'S DAD IS CHIEF OBRIEN???

[@MacNuada]

Sure why not.

[@jupiterwing2984]

If we look at the other Charakters, he may be not so broken after all. At least he is honest about his weirdness. 🤔 Pepe silvia 😭😂

[@IAmGameAddicted]

Charlies father is Frank. I dont care what the writers say, its frank

[@duderitoz6953]

I think its implied that the waitress' name is Nikki Potnic. My theory is based off how that nametag frank grabbed & the bullies remark on her being a man now 😂 also, the waitress was the only person at the reunion if i remember right without a nametag.

[@VeryDAWD]

I thought this too but they said in their podcast that the Nikki name tag joke was a callback to a previous episode and that the waitress not having a name tag is a separate joke about how she is so irrelevant that the reunion organisers forgot about her

[@katie2275]

I don’t personally believe Jack molested Charlie. I think he tried to come on to him when he was older because he’s still into him when he’s in his 40s. There doesn’t seem to be much bad blood between them and they worked together in the Bird Law episode.

[@Steggoleaf]

It's not Gaelic it's "as gaeilge" (pronounced '"Aes-gal-ca") Irish people really don't like when you call it Gealic

[@elcolto2320]

Most Irish people don’t even know Irish tho tbf

[@Steggoleaf]

@@elcolto2320 true but we still get antsy about that kid of thing

[@MacNuada]

I am Irish and every Irish person I know is fine with it being called Gaelic. It is, technically, one of 3 Gaelic languages. Scottish Gaelic is only called that so as not to be confused with Scots/Lallans, but is Gaidhlig, and Manx is Gaelg: 3 of them are Gaelic/Goidelic languages.

[@MacNuada]

​@@elcolto2320That can change. Most Jews did not know Hebrew, hence Yiddish being their language for so long. Now Israel is a Hebrew speaking ethnostate. See what can change to and fro given centuries?

[@NavarreSkyyeRocks]

Even though Charlie and frank are my favorite characters. Charlie is the only character that isn’t a shitty person.

[@thedawnchilloutking]

Holy shit dude Spoilers 😡😡😡😡🤬

[@PureMaddnessOne]

He was a bit out of character in the Ireland season, but most of the gang were. It wasn't a good season.

[@dharmabliss867]

google her name lol

[@kankasaurr6727]

4/10 normal guy review

[@austinmccormick8952]

He also maybe on the Autism spectrum

[@MacNuada]

Nope. That is just the new ADHD. "Abnormal? He got the tism." You not find that lazy?

[@austinmccormick8952]

@@MacNuada it was just a thought Also I'm on the autism spectrum

[@kungfubrandon6886]

the reveal of charlie's father was awful writing, the show really went downhill

[@user00egg]

its not that deep

[@sleepingpowder1595]

Anything past season 12 sucks lets be real

[@darnellbryant5354]

I find myself always watching s11 and before not really after maybe the risky rats episode, that one was great to me

[@ilreideimostri]

This season is by FAR the weakest next to when they were trying to replace Dennis. Less "were artsy and pretentious" more "It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia". The writing isn't as good. The acting isn't as good. The characters aren't as good. Which it's 15 seasons so fair. But like. Just end the show if it isn't going to be able to keep the vibe