Charlotte's Confession Live (5-6 July 2023) | ZubZone | Vicky Reacts

[@cadaclillies]

The fact that Engfa is a queen till Oct is a big issue. These women are followed everywhere they go in Thailand. That's why they were so happy here in the USA. They were free from all of that.

[@AvianR]

Thank you for the vid! So, I observed on twitter at that time but got out because everybody was losing their ever loving minds. It was too toxic for me. People started attacking Engfa for "rejecting" Char on that live, they basically took sides. (Fyi: C had tweeted that she was crying in her car right after E's live and liked a bunch of heartbroken tweets.. the next day she liked a tweet "one conversation can fix everything" ) Some fans made a narrative that Char is the heartbroken one , that E had been so cold to her and wasn't affectionate at all with Char in past lives. They made a villain out of E. Char had to keep explaining that she wasnt heartbroken etc etc. Basically trying to take pressure off E. Personally, i think its smart of them to grow apart. They have so much work to do ,also to work on themselves first (C with her mental health and E with her health issues). If they got together now, i don't see it lasting at all. They care enough to make sure its a long lasting relationship they are building themselves for. I agree that they havent really grown their friendship first and its a great first step. I wish us fans can just be supportive and not see this as a negative but rather as a new beginning for them now that they both are clear about having feelings for each other. Zubzone and Tiff subs etc do a great job of compiling their lives but out if respect leave out the drama/back story that HT2 includes. And boooooy the drama has been non stop. I think thats why HT2 logged out 😂😂😂 they couldn't take the fandoms crazy no more 😂😂

[@89lovelife06]

Yeah, I started to notice around this time that some people started to take sides and it's only gotten worse. I really wish that people just stopped trying to tell them how to live their lives.

[@OlgaEsenina-d4j]

Hello Vicky. Thank you for another video. Engfa is 100000000% right. They are young and they need to build their own careers and meet other people. And it’s very hard jobs to do and Engfa and Charlotte is doing amazing in singing and acting. I want for them all the best and watch them grow and follow their dreams. Even if they are girlfriends or just friends they don’t need to show every single step of them interacting with each other. It’s their own private life’s and we should respect that. They just people like us who have their personal life’s and friends and families and no need to share anything it’s their lives not ours. “Happiness like silence “ I wish for Engfa and Charlotte grow internationally famous and be happy. ❤

[@shemaj9648]

Fan drama and the changes to come in the work relationship prompted E's live. Charlotte was blunt and upfront because she did a tv interview with some of the MGT 2023 girls and she spilled all this and more which was coming out soon. She was also on a bit of E's live and of course they harassed her when she went live. They knew that they had a bunch of individual work booked and knew they wouldn't be together as much publicly. They saw how some fans reacted to them working with others in the past so I believe they thought they were getting ahead of things but it somewhat backfired. This is what some took from the lives, Engfa made Char fall in love with her and now she doesn't want her and so even more drama happened. Then the Grand house visit happened and everyone was happy again because Char was flirting heavy. Something happened after that which made things seem like a cold war was brewing and then the Manilla fan meet happened and some misunderstood the emotions from that night and more speculation and drama happened. Char then started filming her drama and promoting it and now some can't handle seeing her being close to a guy and having chemistry smh. Like you said people love projecting their insecurities and expectations on them and the girls are just trying to branch out and strike while the iron is hot. Boss even told the fans hey I strategically booked their dramas and movie filming around the same period so that they can come back together after those things are wrapped. I must say though the camp made a statement that they weren't pushing the couples work anymore but instead them individually without context before this and the fandom freaked out because they felt that the couple brand brought them to this point and so they should and could do both. The thing is after all the freakout the girls are still doing both lol, August they have couple gigs, so does September and October that have been announced already. Englot also be doing their regular subliminal flirting or sulking online doesn't always help the fandom be settled lol but if you have been here for a while and you just take what they give you as Char said you won't be stressed lol

[@kween5732]

I think the conversation may have happened in the US. When they went back home you can tell that they got a lot closer. And Charlotte was more open about it to me. As far as them not being able to be together right now, probably work and not really being able to give each other the time that they want. Also, they may have something’s they need to work through together before taking that step. Just wanting to make sure it’s the right move for their relationship. I support them both regardless❤️ appreciate the upload💁🏾‍♀️

[@brendaalfaro6463]

Enjoyed your reaction as always! There was so much drama that happened those days and following up until the Manila concert😮‍💨 Some people really were trying to push their own narratives on the situation saying Engfa rejected Charlotte and that's why she had been so sad and depressed (She's been struggling with her mental health before all this came out)🙄 People were throwing blame both directions, a lot of troll accounts were running with all of it, it was a mess😮‍💨 At the end of the day people really just need to learn to step back and like you said be observers! I just make sure to send support to both of them and ignore all the drama people make because they always get passed whatever situation they're going through anyway😁

[@urmipremgi3702]

When I saw all the drama coming. I just ignored all the theories that people were posting and just focused on all the good vibes englot given us till now. And you know what, I really believe for Engfa and Charlotte admitting something like this is because they are really committed at building something together to last forever. As we know Engfa is a QUEEN at manifestating her life so I will be waiting for the they of their official announcement. But like they said NO PRESSURE or BIG EXPETATIONS. I really wish for them that all the dreams come true. Thanks again Vicky for your reaction, always for your videos.🥰 Sorry for the long message

[@CitrusGL]

¡Gracias Vicky! Siempre es un gusto ver tus reacciones, espero que te encuentres muy bien y te deseo éxito en todo, un abrazo.

[@vickyreacts]

Gracias Cindy!!!! 🥹🙏🏼❤️

[@Alphaz-xg-co]

Thanks for the reaction vicky i've beer waiting for this video because there is a lot of drama happening that u need to see 😅❤

[@mcaelaz]

I kinda lost their timeline so i couldn't pin point the exact moment when they confessed, but things definitely changed after mgi, i think that's when charlotte realized that she may have romantic feelings for engfa (i don't think she embraced it at that moment tho). after that i think that they "began again", like they started developing their relationship in another way, a deeper way. maybe that's when thay started "dating" but not talking about it, so it was a little messy, and then the trip to USA was another breaking point since they got to spend more time just the two of them, and encountered themselves in a situation were they didn't have eyes 24/7 on them, so they felt more free to be with each other. these things definitely helped with their relationship and got them to the point were they are today

[@mcaelaz]

If im not mistaken, the night of engfa's live, charlotte tweeted that she was crying in the car or something like that- and as always people created drama assuming that it was because of engfa🙄, that's why in her live she started saying that everything was ok. The funny thing is that those days they were extremly good with each other, they were interacting and doing all these lives, like people were literally assuming and making stuff up just for the sake of it

[@lady1485]

Ive been waiting for your reaction to this😭🙏😊...i hope they keep it private just for the two of them

[@LonelyCrowEntertainment]

Miss Charlotte Austin really said here’s the tea. Now leave me alone 😂

[@vickyreacts]

Right!!

[@JanetJourney]

I haven’t even gotten to char yet and I’m cracking up 😂

[@LGBTICentre-vl8we]

Hey Vicky. Good to see you again. Thanks for the reaction. We been trying to keep up with team Englot and it seems, the fandom's comparison of what is going on between the two of them with other shipped and real couples is what is making Engfa speak the way she did. It comes across as motherly or as though she is trying to calm people down, its possible it has a lot to do with what this does to her and Char... the anxieties, strain, pressure to almost not know when to be real or do fan service as she said. While she has said this before, it seems fan, or ar least the ones at home making a noise dont seem to get them, and of course internationally, some fans want them to come out already... The constant push for them to come out is exhausting. It's like people want to leave their lives and dreams through Englot. Bizzzzzzare it is.

[@J_da_Juno]

I was also thinking why was she talking all of that out of nowhere but it turned out the program she was filming that day( Aunt Kim part 1 which u can find on zubzone✌🏻 ) was out on August 1 and she said all those things in that program too so this was like yk a preparation/teaser for all of us i think and the next few days it was the worst rollercoaster we've ever ridden (most of it was bcs of toxic fans) but I'm not sure you'd find out about what happened tho cuz there was no vid about that.. anyways thanks for ur reactions I'm always waiting for ur noti🤍🤍

[@asiangem]

Engfah said they don't post everything they do in social media. The dates, the affection and everything.. some people do such negative things,say negative thoughts make negative issues and soon.

[@cadaclillies]

It's very hard for them working together. Every body wants to know everything about them. I could not handle it.

[@rosejay178]

Thank you for always ❤

[@mcaelaz]

yayy i was waiting for this reaction!!❤

[@SteniaApanowicz-j6q]

HELLO VICKY .. Nice to see and hear you again. CHARLOTTE she had a interview 1.08. 2023 and where she touched one the subiectof feelings down ENGFY. Maybe its not a drama just a misunderstandingdue to the lack of communication betwen them.CHARLOTTE more open and he speaks directly about his feelings, regardlessof the outraqe on the other side.Whereas ENGFA more secretive.Wht she feels only she knows. Sensitive to the sytuation.Time will tell.

[@marialeos18]

15:11 100% agree with you Vicky. Some people are just so demanding for no reason. It's their lives

[@chintachevasutho]

Let it be guys…they both are real thing!!! Just give them times to do their own things. Times will tell them both if they should be together or not!!! They are still young. Let them used the times they have to be very successful and accomplish what they are made for with their life. Times will tell everything, guys 😊👌😁😋🤭

[@christinezulu3858]

Living your life through the Internet. That's what I call when one posts every single thing about their life. And because they do it they think everyone else should

[@beatrizzschaber]

17:25 yes! it's tiring having to say the obvious things (and even so we read nonsense comments on social media!)

[@TheMalice100]

"The Japanese say you have three faces. The first face, you show to the world. The second face, you show to your close friends, and your family. The third face, you never show anyone. It is the truest reflection of who you are." - you were absolutely right there. Fa said some facts there. I'm just so sad so many so called fans just cant take a hint and let them be and appreciate the "moments" we get. I'm honestly appalled at some people when I read what they tweet, etc. - they must have a very boring life or I dunno, they have mental issues (no tea, no shade, but #facts). Also, I think the confessions happened during the 22.06 11PM incident. Just my thoughts. :D I always love your reactions, they are always so chill and cool. Love them! 🤗

[@Tulip_BbHc08]

The first clip of Engfa trying to explain, is what I want ppl to understand aswell. Also for other ships too. When things dont go as ppl expect them to be...ppl would start bashing, hating and saying they fool ppl.

[@Shilpa_Kush..]

Hey Vicky, I recommend you to watch the Kim's interview in the grand house first. In Kim's interview which was shoot on 6th or 7th of July and aired on August 1 in which Char mentioned that She and P'fa had lately talked about their relationship/confession and and next morning she cried bcoz they wasted their time without having any serious communication about their feelings.( probably the next day, 5th of August after their anniversary when Char also posted a story where she is crying in the car while driving). I think they confessed to each other on their 1 year 3 mnths anniversary night.

[@JR-bk6pe]

💗💗💗

[@MakaoMiko]

Engfa is so right. They are on the spotlight, with mental disorders which will affect your ability to build relationship. She's also on spot about the work stuff, it's demanding business, you need to jump into a gig or you are out. Esspecialy I guess in Asia, where they worship young people, young look. She knows that well cuz it took her a lot of time to get here. They need time and space ❤ cuz to me it look excatly like you said Vicky, they spent time during events but not beside that. Sibiling thing same for me, was difficult to let them learn on their own mistakes. Sometimes there is no other way. When I gave my brother space, we again became best friends, not me pareting instead 😅 The "work togheter" stuff, think is an Thai/Asian culture thing. We dont get this issue but I guess for local fans it might be a deal 😜

[@LGBTICentre-vl8we]

Conserted effort to ship them, and their shipped couple situation has been going on for about 16months. There is no rush to label what the are having. It seems that is the point she is trying to make... that they are still young, discovering life, themselves and each other. The other couple onle came out about their relationship, 5 years into dating... It seems her arguement is dont rush us, give us space, etc.

[@jenlisa6533]

Manila concert please❤🙏

[@rigveda13]

I'm not an englot fan. I don't ship them but I've heard a lot about what goes on un this fandom. In my opinion, if they are tired of all the fan drama, pressure and expectations why don't they just end the ship? I mean shipping is literally the hope or expectation that 2 specific ppl be together. If you want things to be private, quit posting or talking about it, quit bringing it up, and fans will stop getting into your business. You can't have it both ways = let us share what we share and be satisfied with that, don't ask questions, don't wonder, all while there is a commercial benefit to having fans ship us. I guess they are not exhausted enough to end the ship. I wonder if this is a cultural thing. In the west artists just confirm whether they are an item or not and that's it. They certainly don't suuport a ship or support themselves being an imaginary couple. So I suggest ppl do what they asked. Stop shipping them and let them live their private lives. They told you to stay out of it. And next time they post or share anything related to #Englot, which they shouldn't since they are keeping things private, take it with a grain of salt and ignore it. Truthfully, I do hope they meet other ppl and find happiness outside of this weird "I love you but not enough to commit to anything. Let's wait 3-4 years and if we meet other ppl it is what it is. But #Englot is forever because it is an imaginary concept after all. Oh, and hopefully the fans are still around." Guys, please move on with your lives, ONLY ship characters, not real ppl, don't get super invested in other people's relationships, don't idolize, just be a fan of someone's work or vibe, and most importantly, have hobbies and multiple interests, find happiness in your personal relationships and take time off from social media and celebs.

[@foufoucolibri]

You spoke the truth!

[@Alphaz-xg-co]

At 20:24 That 'IS THAT NODELS' was soo random 😂😅🤣

[@vickyreacts]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@8thDoctor]

❤❤

[@sechan1983]

She should just “block” “block” “block” when she sees bad comments. You have explained enough Engfaurrr. Poor Englot

[@gr2065]

i think their is a group of us that totally get them needing to grow work wise separately, which thanks god they need to get away from Nawat (my opinion) but could they do that and have a romantic relationship? From Char's comments they dont speak to each other much out of pride, you'll see that in the Kim interview Char refers to, and she admits she told her too late. I think Engfa means let's date other people in the next 3-4 years and then see if we can make it work hence why Char been super broken up.

[@sasivasebas]

Preach Vicky Preach!!! 13:30

[@christinezulu3858]

What time will be the live on the 12th, i don't want to miss it...i must calculate the time zone

[@gracielanovoa]

I 👏🏻them. They live not in Japan, Korea, Taiwan. Tailand has not the same repercusión as the others, with all my respect. But people all over the world are following them. Two Young women 24 and 28 years old. P'Fa has been more time on the show business. Charlot jumped from being a girl that followed P'Fa on Tiktok to being an actress singer, CEO. Both have a contract with Nawat. Charlotte only dated men, she has depression. P'Fa has health problems. It has being a long time since I saw people that support Char vs. P'Fa and viceversa. Or fans that thought that they own Englot. They have problems to sleep also. I'm from South America. Countries like Uruguay, Argentina, Brasil, Paraguay and so on. North America, Europe and Asia. They have talents, let them be, let them learn. Let them live. These seems as famous as the Brangelina issues.😮😅 Excuse for my writing it has a been a long time since I wrote. LOVE to all and Breathe.❤

[@marialeos18]

I wonder is part of waiting is because of their contracts

[@karinezielat6022]

I agree there is certainly a relationship with their contracts especially for engfa but also doors that could close if they formalize a relationship especially for Charlotte who was on the boys before meeting engfa. I think she would have fewer proposals, unfortunately

[@nornazleena]

After this confession was a mess until Manilla Concert

[@19YOURSDEARLY]

It’s always drama no matter what they say. Englot is forever as they both have said multiple times. Also Engfa still damn near has the crown and she has the 7 year ban that she keeps making sure is thrown in when discussing any relationship talk.Just let them do them and be.

[@Chells75]

Party🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@kash.king2]

Omg why is it a update when I’m at work 😮‍💨.?

[@vickyreacts]

Because I’m evil like that 😂🫶🏼

[@kash.king2]

@@vickyreactsLmfaooo I watched it now

[@Chells75]

I been looking for my shirt.... send it back ....

[@mcaelaz]

12:44 not the dirty look you gave your dog😭 they were trying you lmao

[@vickyreacts]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 They were!!! 💀

[@Chells75]

Two words: Manila Concert

[@Lexyeux]

Please the best seller next hehe

[@justus2857]

Sometimes the fans(thai) need to just give them space,that's the reason boss put in place those measurements....guy especially thai fans give them fucking space.

[@LGBTICentre-vl8we]

Re: Why is Char (was) sharing so much like this and at this time... it could be because of what was going on at the time a d how people were reacting to both her and P'Fa's IG, Twitter and Tik Tok posts. Fans continue to be out of order... tag them, question them, claim their relationship is fan service, or from time to time misinterpret what they say, or do, etc.

[@foufoucolibri]

I had mixed feelings about it, but after having a better understanding of the shipping culture and fan service, the constant "over sharing" , and feeling confused by everything that seems to make sense but also not making sense fully, is the way to keep big ships sailing....someone had too, since Engfa went on live (maybe without warning anyone) and just decided to sunk the ship! 😅.... at the end of the day business is business, and business is the main purpose of their association or understanding....Whatever it is that they might or might not have Englot is before everything a work, and Charlotte's move allowed to not kill the business aspect too fast. Doesnt mean that they're not real or feelings are not involved though.

[@sechan1983]

12:47 soon interfans will be able to read out her usual “explanation” speech like a true Thai… just because we keep hearing the same thing over and over again …. Poor thing she had to explain it almost any other day…

[@big1ne]

Some of the fans are psychotic, it's not even funny anymore. It's crazy how one of those fans can create chaos in the entire fandom. I really feel bad for them sometimes. They must be so exhausted from takin in all of this energy.

[@TonGreenday27]

🤍⏳🥰

[@Tasciamy1202]

Most of these ppl are so pushy like relax and enjoy what they want to show us The other day i saw a tiktok comment like I WANT char wit a man am like its not your life and u don't get to tell these ppl what u want from what u don't want atleast they're kind enough to show us this side of themselves caz most celebrities don't

[@cadaclillies]

She is constantly repeating herself.. it should not haveto be explaining all the times. It'sfrustrating. ..

[@lorenajuri5713]

Engfa jugó con Char, Char se enamoró y Engfa se asustó. Ahora está celosa porque Char trabajará con otras personas.