Charmed is a Mess (Season 8) (Manic Episodes)

[@blink56k]

I found the clip where Shannen says she didn't return for the finale because she didn't like the way Prue was written in, and that it felt inauthentic to the character. Since Alyssa was a producer, I imagine them completely ruining the character by having Prue say something ridiculous like "Phoebe I came back as a ghost to make sure you didn't give up on finding a man."

[@TheCrippledEgg]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[@charmedxo2321]

Shannen changes her story so much at conventions. First she says she denied any opportunity to come back. The she said she didnt want to come back. Brad Kern has never said she was ever invited because it would have been too expensive. That story is so inconsistently told by her if you watch her convention panels that she seems to be angry the show succeeded after she left

[@okaysoanyways2645]

@@charmedxo2321 "succeeded" 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂

[@renera7554]

@@charmedxo2321 yeah they really went uphill from Season 4,as evidenced by the longer and longer season reviews of this very channel

[@ultravioletpisces3666]

@@charmedxo2321 Well she wanted to push the show to be more serious and grown-up. And when they killed her off, thats what they did.

[@Mehdi-ng1hm]

"If we help innocents, we won't be able to help innocents, it makes sense if you don't think about it!" LOL

[@0deadx21]

So basically don't help innocents at all.

[@ryanappleton3653]

Billie: There's an innocent in trouble! Let's stop the evil! Paige: Let's go. Beats lounging about like lizards. I'm looking at you Piper and Phoebe. Piper and Phoebe: I can't be bothered! I'd rather have myself pampered. LEO! GET MY FLUFFY SLIPPERS AND FACE MASK...Oh. He's frozen! DAMN YOU ANGEL OF DESTINY! YOU OWE ME A SLAVE! YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS! 1:29:49

[@athaancaellus]

Piper loses her husband and is emotionally distraught over the loss of her love and kid's father while preparing for their biggest battle ever. Phoebe: "I'm moving out."

[@Crvenaaaful]

she's even worse in previous season but this girl had explained it. You know, when Piper wants to help struggling Leo and Phoebe distracts herself cause she thinks Leo is not safe anymore for them due to the floating heads. 😆

[@randomgeekcrap]

That made me chuckle

[@pettykittyfam]

She was supposed to be a selfish character, but at least in the first season, she pretented to try to be a good sister.

[@Samuel-fp1ul]

@@pettykittyfam In the 2 first seasons, she actually was a good person

[@manicpixiefangirl4189]

So, in the end, Charmed is an old lady telling a little girl how she and her sisters slept around, complained, and otherwise made the people around them totally miserable. Charmed indeed!

[@Schoolgirl325]

*Manic Pixie Fangirl * LMAO!🤣🤣🤣

[@TheCrippledEgg]

Don't forgot all the costumes!

[@mrcritical6751]

And don’t forget all the Deviantart level transformations

[@andrewollmann304]

Great story to read to children!

[@mrcritical6751]

Not let me tell you the story about how Granny sentenced an innocent man to hell just because he was evil for a little while

[@fusionspace175]

"This woman gives up more than Bizarro world Rick Astley." Maybe my favorite joke you've ever done.

[@nomduclavier]

Nick Moore Same.

[@greyscaleanon7551]

Always gonna give. You. Up. Always gonna let. You. Down~

[@finn_underwood]

25:41 Don't mind me, just linking to the joke because I too find it hilarious and timestamps are useful, carry on.

[@fusionspace175]

@@finn_underwood Good point. Thanks from four years ago, buddy.

[@alclarke]

Perfect line.

[@calsh14]

You know what I noticed Prue, Paige (S4-S7), Chris, and Billie are all telekinetic who actually do their job in hunting demons and saving innocents

[@ДанилоЦвјетковић]

I liked the ending. A senile old women telling a story to a grandchild would explain inconsistencies. 😂😂😂

[@friendsfans123]

LMAO WHY R U SO RIGHT THO 😂😂😂

[@multitudeofidols]

It would literally explain the whole show.

[@thingthang2904]

So the Brain Drain reality was actually true

[@KillStealMusic]

@@thingthang2904😭😭😭😂😂😂

[@ninjaturtlefan2003]

Honestly, I would love to see this show from Billy's perspective. She is a college student who has just figured out she has super powers and that demons exist. She hears whisperings of these ancient chosen ones who were vaniquished, but she discovers that they are actually still alive. Unfortunately, they are complete a-holes who act even more childish than Billy and treat her like a nanny.

[@nate567987]

and kill her sister

[@phonybeautrain6520]

That would have been a better reboot than the one we got.

[@djb1317]

@@phonybeautrain6520 kaley cuoco had a lucky escape

[@jasonstrader3942]

@@djb1317 IMO Kaley was the worse thing they did to season 8. She must have taken acting classes between Charmed and Big Bang because she literally sucked in Charmed. The whole crying thing with Christie was vanquished was the worse cry acting I have seen in a long time.

[@abelcollado1711]

@@jasonstrader3942 Not to mention how she felt like a replacement for Prue. Telekinesis and access to astral projection, and using them similar to Prue? They should have given her different powers, or just have made projection her one only power since she has access to alot of powers anyways.

[@ItsAMalkavianThing]

The fact that the sister's selfishness, lack of empathy and care about saving innocents being their ultimate undoing in the end is pretty fucking hilarious. They literally turn potential allies into enemies by being shitty I can't -

[@GetWellSoonR.E.M.]

I love this season for that reason! They ACTUALLY face consequences for their actions, even if it was forced by magic. They FINALLY got held accountable for what they do! It finally happened after several seasons!

[@Indigochildwithin]

You do know it's a show don't you?? You all speak as if its their actually personality..how odd.

[@TheCoyoteOutlaw]

​@@IndigochildwithinConsidering how many former cast and crew members have said how awful the production was, yeah, it's almost like their personalities were on screen for everyone to see.

[@Samuel-fp1ul]

@@GetWellSoonR.E.M. Well, the problem is that they face consequences, but it's not actually depicted that way. We're supposed to be on the side of the Charmed ones and to believe the magical community has been manipulated or whatever

[@charmedone3524]

I have marathoned all of your Charmed reviews. They were all so good. I laughed so much. Charmed is my favorite show but I can’t say you lied at all.

[@kendane2001]

I’m watching this review just now. Let’s be honest. The show was never meant to be hard hitting or make sense. Arron Spelling was redoing Charlie’s Angels with A supernatural spin. The girls were just meant to be good looking, knock out bad guys,and hook up with other guys, but never be successful in love because the male audience needs to pretend they have A chance with them.

[@kamui003]

The only reason Christy isn't a warlock is because she hasn't killed and stolen the powers of another witch. This has been my contribution to the KZbin algorithm

[@elvisbl]

Actually, warlocks and witches are different beings in the show. Warlocks are always evil, and witches can be good or evil. For example, Tuatha from season 2 was a witch that turned evil and was still referred as a witch, not a warlock.

[@Nagoragama]

I swear the writers of seasons 7 and 8 didn't actually watch the rest of the show and were just given a vague plot synopsis given how much discontinuity with the rest of the show they have. I mean, they fuck up remembering the premise of the whole show, forgetting that the sisters didn't know they were witches at the beginning of the first season.

[@interfrastically]

On the one hand I can't blame them for not watching the show, but on the other hand the contempt the sloppy writing shows for the audience is appalling. I had an odd relationship to the show: I watched quite a few episodes from the first two seasons but then didn't watch it for a few years because my schedule didn't fit with the broadcast times and although I did enjoy the show somewhat I didn't enjoy it enough to go to the trouble of recording it to watch when I did have the time. The next time I caught an episode it was well into the leads as producers stage and I actually thought I was watching an evil alternate universe episode like Mirror Mirror in Star Trek...

[@gillysummerss]

I just rewatched this episode again for the millionth time and it’s heavily heavily implied terribly that Grams told them about being witches then erased their memories shortly after.

[@dathurd7261]

This is what Alyssa said in an interview with Variety which definitely explains why Charmed went downhill the minute Constance M Burge and Shannen left after the 3rd season. "But having said that, we were in a situation - and maybe it was by design, I have no idea - but we never saw our writers or knew where the writer’s room was or where Brad was. They were in a completely different building - I think it was the Spelling building, and we shot at Paramount. And it was so bad that sometimes we couldn’t even get him on the phone. Holly [Marie Combs] and I produced the last five years of the show, and when we would try to get him on the phone, we couldn’t get him. When we would get him on the phone, he wouldn’t have the script in front of him, so we just assumed he wasn’t in the office. We didn’t have an on-set producer so Holly [Marie Combs] and I took on that role. We would make on-set adjustments, because there was no one on set to make those adjustments. And Brad was the showrunner, so he ran the writer’s room. I don’t think that it was necessarily a bad way of doing it, because the show was on for eight years, but there were definitely moments where, as actors who also produced, we would look for dialogue changes and we were always very conscious about getting approval for them, and we were not able to get Brad on the phone. That was the extent of our interaction with him other than the few times he came down to the set for celebratory purposes - when we reached our 150th episode, or when we wrapped the final season. It was definitely a disconnect."

[@earlofbroadst]

The incompetence and laziness of that is absolutely staggering.

[@djb1317]

i dont believe alyssa milano much more than half. Shes a textbook narcissistic actress nad most definitely used the character of Pheobe and the show to live out her fantasies, the sex and the city rip off especially casting jason lewis and was 100% her choice. Season 5 is where Pheobe starts to become Alyssa and season 6 premiere launched with that ultra cringe interview massaging her ego was when the character fully Alyssa, a completely different character from the first 3 seasons

[@edumeleroverdu8509]

I mean, that may have been the case -but if you watch the show, it's very clear the actresses had a looooot of liberties and, at least, pitched several of the plots. So they may have been disconnected from Brad Kern, but they certainly ran the show. Obviously, Kern as a producer would be also guilty of the quality drop, of course.

[@Jkjoannaki]

But how do you produce something so broken that has absolutely no communication between showrunner, writers and producers? And why wasnt it that horrible till season 4? There has to be change in the writers or the producers (the 2 of the actresses) were just brainfarting and no one stopped them for some reason. Idk, I wouldn't produce something so stupid and incompetent, I'd just quit.

[@djb1317]

When piper said the agent quit because they were difficult to work with I think that was the reason the actor left the show and it was 4th wall passive aggression

[@marisathebibliophile1519]

I love Charmed. It was such a staple of my childhood. I found these videos by accident and I just have to say YOUR COMMENTARY IS LITERALLY AMAZING. You point out all the problems I’ve ever had with the show. I’m willing to admit its flaws and the way you highlight them has me crying with laughter. Thank you for this perspective. I’m being 100% serious. I’ve watched all eight of these and I’m like straight up crying laughing from your commentary.

[@pinoypolyglot5501]

It’s so true though! Charmed is one of my favourite shows and I even know the lines to a lot of episodes, but there are so many plot holes and stupid storylines!

[@Levi_Parish]

I love her calling out Alyssa’s baby voice anytime she’s character acting. It is literally the reason why I hate every time she turns into anything but evil.

[@bulbasaurtheboss4420]

And Chris is hot 😂

[@DigiDestined13]

This is what being an adult is all about - knowing that things we love have flaws, but being able to turn our brains off for a while and just enjoy it without letting the naysayers ruin a good time.

[@scotchmaple]

I love how you make Piper and Phoebe basically the wicked stepsisters from Cinderella lmfao

[@rcct44444]

Yeah She made them the wicked stepsisters

[@mrcritical6751]

They’re the wicked stepsisters if instead of abusing Cinderella they spent years manipulating her and getting into her head to make her just as awful as they are

[@ryanappleton3653]

1:23:58 Finally we talk about the real good sister. No disrespect to fans of Prue, I worship Prue.

[@djcampos04]

Plot twist : This channel is the ULTIMATE POWER

[@iain9757]

Nah the Ultimate Power was the friends we made along the way 😂

[@DanPiperWillow]

"She blends in perfectly, what a great disguise" Im D-E-A-D

[@thelivingsteel]

See though, the reason you mention liking Billie here is the same reason a lot of people liked Chris. While the Charmed ones could legitimately not care less about helping others in season six, Chris was there trying to push them to stop demons, to literally protect their son's future, and to be a general audience frustration surrogate to their antics. The sisters were so unlikable, so self-absorbed, so unconcerned with anything beyond themselves, that it was a breath of fresh air to have someone actually call them out on it, and to occasionally get them to... actually do the jobs they're supposed to do: fight evil.

[@dawnmayflower4422]

Yes. Even though they ignored him most of the time, he still at least commented and even yelled at them to get their arses into gear. Their selfishness and inability to connect with the people they were supposed to help obviously frustrated the hell out him and he made it known. I didn't realize it at the time as I was only about 10-11 when season 6 aired but looking back, and definitely when I last rewatched the show, it was cathartic to see Chris call the sisters out on their shit. Admittedly he pushed them to kill so many demons because he thought they might the ones to turn Wyatt evil so it was semi selfish, but for a good reason. Yes, Chris is one of my favourites even though he has many faults.

[@jaywingate187]

I can certainly get that, and I kind of like his actor's try hard monotone delivery, that really does bring to mind a scared teen, all alone on his mission, trying to present himself as a powerful anti hero. I just wish they hadn't saddled him with so many rapey subplots, the genie pheobe one being the episode where I just gave up in disgust.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

I can really feel Chris' frustration in the story. Also can't stand how whiney the sisters are. Paige is still the best tho imo

[@georgeprchal3924]

Chris: So there's a demon and ya' know... Phoebe: If his name isn't Cole I'm not interested. Chris: You're the worst.

[@adammcclelland5746]

Lost the rights to their theme song!? That has to be the most embarrassing thing that could happen to a show.

[@kbitchkal8765]

Adam McClelland could of been cancelled

[@brianawalker1777]

It happens more often than you think. a surprising chunk of shows have lost rights to their themes. countless shows on netflix have altered theme songs due to streaming rights. Some shows even have to change their whole soundtrack.

[@StephanieCrawford333]

Yeah, now clauses are updated to include streaming, but shows that came out before streaming was a thing have to pay HUGE amounts of money for songs if they can get them at all.

[@Bea_1757]

I can imagine it had something to do with the fact that they assumed that the 7th season was their last, so they probably didn't bother renewing the rights for the song until they decided to continue the show and by then it was too late.

[@katemaloney4296]

One of the reasons "Crossing Jordan" is so slow coming to DVD, is due to music rights. The first season took forever because they had a hard time securing the rights to all of the songs used in the episodes.

[@DRCTRkjcharmedfreak]

I am a massive hardcore Charmed fan! I've loved it and continue to be obsessed with it's impact on my childhood. That being said, I find your points valid and humorous in all of your reviews. Nothing can ever take away my great love for it, but I can also appreciate your roasts. I don't think I would get as much out of your thoughts if I have never been a fan. So I just want to say thank you for your work.

[@AllisonPregler]

Thanks!

[@TheCrippledEgg]

I love how each review gets longer and longer.

[@alexvictor9638]

I rewatched this series for, like, 100th time, and now I want the T-shirts: -"The Elders are dicks"; -"PMS werewolf"; -"Oh no, whatever, can we go shopping?"; -"I was possessed by a good person for the sake of a joke"; -on the back: "I don't wanna know, I don't wanna know", on the front: "Oh maaaaan"; -"Thanks, Colebama!"; -"Leo, somehow it's your fault"; -"The Great Phoebe One"; -"I'm Piper, COMMANDER OF ALL".

[@treefrog1018]

I would totally buy The Elders are Dicks and Thanks Colebama t-shirt 😆

[@kamenanew9867]

"the elders are a Bag of dicks!" I'd buy that one

[@OpheliaFantasy]

Also "Holy shit their baby just killed a dude!"

[@wellthatwaswierd4570]

T-shirts, pins/badges/buttons, AND bumper stickers. Yes please

[@JesseColton]

I request a fan dub in which she voices all three Charmed Ones

[@karlnordenstorm8816]

The piper is epic

[@thechandraraj6415]

How big a patreon donation do you think that'd take?

[@DigiDestined55X]

Watch her Season 9 comics review. 🙂

[@mybuffysummers]

I’d 100% donate to this cause.

[@Jranthony04]

All 4 charmed ones!!!

[@CowardlyCat]

I really love your mocking voice of the charmed ones lol

[@frostysimmer4010]

Yasmine Gomez rose had that weird sinus infection

[@yun-hn5cx]

Frosty Simmer rose always has something.

[@ryanappleton3653]

Now why didn't Piper sound like her usual mocking in the shows run?

[@jacobrichardson3647]

“Ehh fuck it just kill them” that’s my favorite one

[@shanerulez79]

Why doesn't it matter if Leo locked himself out of the house? Can't he just orb inside? It's his house

[@shanerulez79]

KGAugh james she didn't mention it so I didn't know. It's been years since I watched the show. It's really weird he can go from Elder to human though. Even so he should've called Paige, she could've orbed home, unlocked the door and orbed back. Or maybe she could use her powers to just orb the keys, idk if there's a Max distance she can send items.

[@andrewollmann304]

shanerulez79 It was in the Season 7 review. Basically, the Elders were mad at him going Avatar and so wanted him to choose between his job and his family. John DeLancie Elder threw him into the middle of Texas, and then posed as a truck driver (I don’t know how the Elders can glamour....that power was never established) to force him to choose helping people (so then how is it a choice)? Then, the Elders orbed him to Golden gate Bridge Land where they wanted him to join them once and for all, but he “fell from grace” (quite literally, he swandove off the Golden Gate Bridge) and became mortal. But, uh-oh, Piper’s suffering from a magical poison at home and now Leo can’t heal. However, Wyatt healed her, so it’s all good (?)

[@GamesFromSpace]

Also, he was a handyman, he should be able to break into his own house.

[@B0K0691]

@@GamesFromSpace I don't think he was really a handyman, like, I don't think he knew how to fix stuff, If anything was broken, I think he'd heal it when no one was looking

[@nomduclavier]

"to complain about not having a life" TO A GHOST

[@bkross100]

The day Shannen left it was a different show and tone. She had a presence and it was hard to pretend that she wasn't a huge part of the show. Killing her off was a mistake they should have made her a producer and offered her more money. The fact that she directed all hell breaks loose shows you the worth she had. She will always be the best part of the show. Period.

[@mariashaki89]

Shannen was already planning to leave the show after season 3 , anyway.

[@bkross100]

@@mariashaki89 yeah, she could have stayed thou if the direction of the show wasn't changing to a lame fantasy based show. She said in some interviews with fans.

[@bulbasaurtheboss4420]

I hate Shannen in this role, so for me Prue's death was a plus for the serie 😅

[@EastSide-qc5oy]

Nah. They weren’t gonna offer her more money or a producer role. I think the conflicts with Alyssa were just half the story and the producers used that as leverage to get rid of Shannen. She thought she knew better than them about everything and constantly complained about the quality of the show. They were sick of her crap and wanted her gone.

[@mykoniichistorychannel]

@@EastSide-qc5oyAnd in hindsight, it looks like she was right.

[@sthWicca]

Do you think i'm selfish? "yeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS" i laughed for 20 minutes straight

[@joemerl1145]

I have finally finished rewatching your "Charmed" reviews. They are quite possibly my favorite thing on the whole internet. Thank you for all the hard work that went into making them, and I will begin praying that you one day tackle the comics and/or reboot.

[@MyMagnificentOctopus]

And then old Piper throws her necklace into the ocean and we pan back to see it was all just a boy staring into a snow globe all along.

[@nomduclavier]

They were all bedtime stories. That actually makes sense. Except apparently she peppered her stories liberally with complaints. And occasional sexcapades. Thanks, oldpiperbama.

[@mybuffysummers]

It’s clear that during this re-telling Aunt Phoebe made a cameo appearance to share her thoughts on what happened and oldpiperbama didn’t even try to stop her . Either that or at some point she realized she was in love with her most evil sister.

[@FaeQueenCory]

“Hold on. Is that a giant stiletto!?” Obvs he is in to ballcrushing S&M femdom. Hence the “agony and ecstasy”.

[@blahblah7963]

FaeQueenCory 😂😂💀! Absolutely.

[@lnfreeman]

And the attraction to phoebe

[@theresamorrison2831]

For a show that was trying to be like Buffy, they sure goofed up. Buffy never worried about being exposed as the slayer, she just saved lives. Buffy never decided to just not go fight some evil. Neither did any of her group. Also, Buffy never had stereotypically vacuous women as the focus of the show. I mean, Cordelia and Anya were about as far as it went and even Cordelia and Anya proved to be more than any of the charmed ones did.

[@Khenfu_Cake]

Indeed. On BtVS they never really made any real effort at hiding the supernatural going ons. Sure Buffy and her friends didn't usually openly display it just for the heck of it, but if innocent lives were at stake (no pun intended) Buffy couldn't really care less about being exposed as The Slayer. Like The Charmed Ones Buffy also sometimes lamented her inability to live a normal life, but unlike the sisters she always ended up chosing her duty as The Slayer over her own desires. Heck, she was often more than willing to outright let herself be killed if it meant her loved ones or other innocents would be spared the same fate. BtVS even made a big deal out of using your powers wantonly or outright abuse them (namely with characters like Faith and Willow), and the consequences that might come from that (and not in the Charmed way of having them removed or the user punished in some manner like they were a child being scolded, but in more of a personal way that actually made for some interesting character arcs). Charmed outright had an in universe rule which dictated The Charmed Ones couldn't use their powers for selfless gain (a rule BtVS didn't have for its magic users) yet somehow Charmed let its protagonists get away with abusing their powers for selfish reasons on numerous occasions. And sometimes they even outright used them for evil. I could rant for ages about why Charmed failed so hard at trying to emulate BtVS, but I'll spare you that torment. Suffice to say; I love Buffy, both when it first aired and now, but I never got into Charmed. Considering my rant above that shouldn't come as a surprise.

[@mybuffysummers]

Nekhet if you made your KZbin channel devoted to exposing the attempted similarities and how hard they failed I’d watch every single video. Multiple times.

[@MstEli]

Yeah comes off as vapid compared to the much better BtVS. Even the Avatar plot of last season was a little close to season 4 Angel, and surprise, surprise, Charmed did it worse.

[@bongchoof]

@@MstEli Yeah, but Season 4 of Angel committed a lot of sins as well. Poor Cordelia. Poor Charisma Carpenter!

[@MstEli]

@@bongchoof oh yeah, no arguments here, especially on how dirty they did Cordy. My point, with that in mind, is that the weakest season of Angel (in my opinion) was still better executed than Charmed's rendition.

[@Annikai]

It's really sad that it took me until the change the channel hashtag to get me interested in your work. These are awesome.

[@TheAdorkableRJ]

I love that ''sound of ultimate suffering'' bit.

[@rafaelgaliano91]

I honestly wish Charmed had like 20 seasons just because of these videos lmao. I can't get enough

[@chrryteri]

Season 20 review would be 24 hours long

[@B0K0691]

@@chrryteri The white-lighter inconsistency segment would be 20 of those 4 hours

[@beckyginger3432]

Right I'm off to watch the whole of Buffy again

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

I hope Lupa takes that show apart someday... the characters were far more likeable, but the plot and the silly stuff was on par with Charmed. And really, why could they never decide what to do with Spike?

[@mnicolemortensen7]

Swift Nimblefoot He was only supposed to be in like 5 episodes but the fans liked him so they kept writing him in. They didn't totally know what to do when Angel was still around, so when he got his own show they sort of tried to fit Spike in that role.

[@MrHootiedean]

There's a channel called Passion of the Nerd that does an incredible analysis series on Buffy and Angel. Episode by episode. He will make you appreciate the show even more!

[@WillTuliv]

Thaaank you!

[@JLDReactions]

@Swift I don't think Buffy/Angel were nearly as silly as Charmed. For one thing, for the most part, death means something in Buffy. When a character dies, like Joyce, you really feel it. Buffy had some rough episodes, don't get me wrong, but the overall show was very deep, and the characters grew over time. In Charmed, it seems the women kept going backwards.

[@larsludvigsen6843]

It’s so true, the charmed ones really did become the villains during the last half of the show. It would actually be a good story if they realised what Christy said about them was right and dealt with that. Despite being awful, Christy was right about them, and it’s ridiculous that Piper, Phoebe and Paige are portrayed as the innocent heroes.

[@shis1988]

The only one I can sort of feel for is Piper because of her situation and the realization that no higher authorities bother being proactive. She has a child and the only sister with responsibilities beyond the world, saw her son die, while she is being irresponsible with Wyatt.

[@nomduclavier]

The first thing they did with the traumatised kidnapping victim was make her perform femininity. I cannot even.

[@gwendolynwestwind9764]

Basically they get Christie back, and the first thing they do is use her for a Barbie doll. Rather than, you know, medical help? Psychological help? Magical help? ANYTHING more important and useful than doing her stupid hair? It's really a sign of how vapid, shallow, and just utterly disconnected from reality the show had become by this point.

[@Indigo_Boi757]

@@gwendolynwestwind9764 I mean, fixing your appearance after something negative (granted maybe not after kidnapping but like say a breakup or a recovering from illness) is usually what people do bcos it's a quick-fix, a doable, practical task that can feel like progress and looks like real change as well. Counselling and all that is great but it's more subtle and understated , you can't immediately see the results and turnaround. I'm not saying it's the best way forward but it's relatable. Also that hair was dire need of rescue though...just saying. 😝

[@smol-one]

I mean, the show being a story an old lady is telling to her grandchild as she descends into dementia, would explain a lot.

[@ChristyTina22]

I loved this show, but you make some valid points. And you were funny, too. My biggest gripe with the finale was Prue not being there. They were time traveling, they could have picked up a teenage Prue (Shannon look alike) and have Grams unbind her powers temporarily.

[@anthonyL1995]

The final season was just really bad. There was supposed to be a Billie spin-off which is why they kept making her more and more powerful. The issue, is they built up 7 seasons prior that the three sisters were the most important witches. I agree that the constant wining about not having lives is annoying. It might not have been their choice in season 1 but when they were given the option to give up their powers later on they decided to keep them.

[@tomahilaire3921]

That was becoming grading listen to them complain all the time. This video reminded me of how much they did. I don't recall Prue complaining this much.

[@djb1317]

Kaley cuaco dodged a bullet she probably wouldn't have got big bang theory if she had lead a few seasons of a spinoff of a long dead series it would have done damage to her career

[@djb1317]

@@tomahilaire3921 alyssas producer ego made her alyssa as buffy and then alyssa as carrie and alyssa as venus and alyssa as lady godiva and alyssa jessica simpson

[@lukavojinovic7246]

I would rather watch Kaley Cuoco kick demon ass that Alyssa Milano being treated like a Goddess tbh

[@DalekTheSupreme]

_"Well, Phoebe does finally come to the realization that she loves poop."_ ~ Allison Pregler, 2018

[@Justitia_Nomen]

15:00 the chords when “Not Leo” walks into the kitchen and they all gasp in surprise. I am laughing so hard rn 🤣

[@MrPeaTearGryfin]

Hey Allison, any chance of you doing True Blood, another TV series that started with an interesting supernatural element before eventually getting lost in constant romance plots and forgetting what the show was originally about?

[@stormRed]

In the same vein Sabrina the Teenage witch would also be pretty funny

[@archive9796]

stormRed1236 but Sabrina knew what type of show it was

[@archive9796]

mben5 like most shows but yeh I agree

[@ironeius]

Well that description applies also to Game of Thrones

[@archive9796]

ironeius it could describe most like I just said

[@pucknorris3473]

I was with a girl for eight years we watched all this, the nostalgia I have experienced is a gift Alison. Thank you.

[@LupineShadowOmega]

To be fair with the Book of Shadows bit, I think it was probably because they couldn't use the word grimoire. But every Witch should have a grimoire and on top of it, with the Halliwell family existing, you'd assume there would be other witch families (like the one Pagie's boyfriend was from) as well. So more books and utterly different outlooks on magic. That could have been an entire season on its own.

[@mastermarkus5307]

... Why couldn't they use the word "grimoire"?

[@mayann0-0]

They used it in previous seasons so idk

[@BloodrealmX]

@@mastermarkus5307 Because apparently there was an evil Book of Shadows or whatever creatively named (in the usual Charmed fashion) just "the Grimoire".

[@MsCarotty]

i'm super, super late to this, but in the french dub (which i watched as a kid) it IS called the Grimoire !

[@rosyface_]

I know they couldn’t use her likeness but it seems pretty cold that there wasn’t a single photo of Prue in the photo wall situation at the end.

[@sora609]

They wanted to, but the money Shannon asked for was too much.

[@llostGD]

Omg that cut to the princess bride, peak editing 😭😭😭

[@MrZerothejedi]

I remember watching this show as a kid, and liking Leo, and not understanding why everyone was treating him like crap.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

This! They are either always looking for Leo or once he shows up they want him gone! Especially piper! Like please make up your mind!

[@savageman2394]

I can see why I ended up with so many toxic relationships over the years 😂 I thought it was normal until I was ready to see and accept it wasn’t Cole deserved better As does Leo 😢

[@f_imposter4715]

I swear, this series of yours left me in TEARS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mariashaki89]

I love how in the flashing forward scene Phoebe is seen writing her book dressed as a sunday school teacher which is something she would never be wearing in the show while she was still single and looking for love.

[@yun-hn5cx]

She traveled back to the world where lady Godiva died prematurely.

[@calvinmcenron8381]

I Bingewatched all your charmed reviews in 2 days and it was AWESOME, hilarious point of view, funny voices, great insights. It was truly CHARMING (drumroll)

[@biggeek2256]

The use of The Imperial March at the beginning is a PERFECT thing to represent our three "heroines"

[@MisterMidgar]

Congratulations Lupa on a wrap up to a wonderful analysis of this entire series. It must have been a lot of work and it all came together really well. Keep on moving forward!

[@shanerulez79]

MisterMidgar she should do the comics those get even worse

[@haleymist09]

"Booing aggressively to surprise someone is charming!"

[@DareDB]

I’m a little late to the game, but I just finished watching all 8 seasons of your reviews, and I’ve had such a fun ride reliving the entire series through you. I LOVED it so much when I was younger, but the show ended in my senior year in high school, and the show was definitely not what it was when it ended. I stuck through it despite its flaws, and still find the great moments throughout it all. I would love to have seen how it would’ve been if Shannen got her way, but alas, I’ve thoroughly enjoyed and laughed so much this past week binging all these episodes. Thank you for these golden reviews. You’re amazing!

[@AllisonPregler]

Thanks so much!

[@spookyghostess]

You know, maybe all the nonsensical time-traveling could explain the nonsensical ret-conning the show tries to pull every episode. Season 8 is just the darkest and dumbest timeline

[@TheGuilkato]

its from all the witches and demons/warlocks stealing cupid rings and adjusting the timeline... you know badly. Creating ever more plotholes I mean Paradoxes

[@Enshohma]

This whole show is like a horribly written self-insert fan fiction merged with an equally crummy game of roundabout played by people who secretly disdain fantasy narratives!

[@Jokie155]

Considering the self-praise for Phoebe by Alyssa, and going down from there, it might be possible to take that description as literal.

[@crystaldragon15]

I loved these videos. You have - far more articulately - summed up exactly why I started out really enjoying the show and ending up hating it...

[@zelamorre1126]

The fact that most of Phoebe's entire arc on the show was about opening herself up to love until the elders send her an insemination device was the most irritating arc on the show. Mostly because it lasted so long. It was years worth of guys teaching her the lesson to be 'open' to love. Because Phoebe was the world's slowest, most dimwitted witch who couldn't learn a lesson until a personality-less tube of semen showed up. (It also didn't help that Season 8 had Henry who for as little screen time as he got, was actually a lot more interesting than Coop. Mostly because he had an entire reason for existence beyond knocking Paige up.)

[@mariashaki89]

What an insult to the character she used to be in earlier seasons. This obscene baby obsession was definitely Alyssa's idea.

[@talesyuki]

this has amazing rewatch value

[@larsludvigsen6843]

I’ve seen it almost ten times I think, and I know I will again😅

[@pkhame]

I loved the charmed series when it was on, but I find your commentary delightfully refreshing. Thank you for your time in putting this together and spending all that time to watch the entire series.

[@SavāgeBückeṭ]

I am so glad your Charmed 2.0 video came up on my timeline. I started watching and heard you say you reviewed the original so i came right away. Its taken me 2 days to watch the whole playlist amd ive shared it with my mum and best friend. Ive been laughing so hard in agreement to everything, the script, the shots, absolutely fantastic 👏 Thank you

[@matthancox7608]

I wonder if this would be less infuriating if they didn’t have to save innocents. Like after the Source was gone they could retire from active duty, but the book of shadows remains a powerful target of demons, giving the show a reason to have new threats. Not saying it would make for a good show, but it would better than having them dodging responsibility.

[@mysteriouslunar9779]

Honestly, it might have been. There's plenty of shows that didnt revolve around saving innocents. I enjoyed Witches of Eastwick and The Secret Circle- those were about family, friends, and trying to adjust to life as a supernatural being and the perils it brought. Sometimes they saved normal mortals, but that wasn't really the focus. I think it would have let the writers do more without the sisters looking like superheroes who casually watched people get mugged, essentially, while they complained about not being able to go on dates.

[@BML8384]

Isn't it ironic that 'Charmed' became Charmless? By Season 8 all 3 were unlikable, surly and selfish. Shouldn't a subplot have been whatever happened to turn Paige from a fun, quirky, warm woman into a catty, sneering harridan? And, God, was Piper a Harpy!

[@jdrvargo287]

That's a little unfair to harpies

[@skurinski]

Paige was still the only tolerable sister by the finale

[@blueskythinking6674]

@@skurinski, Nope!

[@Surgemaster2012]

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[@HiperPivociarz]

1:36:05 Holy shit, I think Billy has been spending too much time with Phoebe, that was the most horrible thing a person could say.

[@mattDettling]

Rip Prue Truely the only selfless sister

[@kseromore]

waiting for the season 9 comic season review

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

I just went through S10 comic, and booooy it is a mess. At least the heroes are consistently portrayed as terrible people, so... there is that.

[@betweenthepanels9145]

kseromore i don't think our dear reviewer would survive that.

[@pammoore4455]

kseromore uh do there was no season 9 this was the final season there was no more charmeds after that

[@DrGregoryHouseIT]

The comics are the season 9.

[@derrickbelmar]

Season 9 and 10 was so Good in the comics I love it

[@1307]

"Well, i do! and I'm older so what I think counts more!" that is literally one of the most childish things i've ever heard. And it was said by a woman in her mid thirties.....watching these reviews has made me reevaluate how much i loved this show when i was younger.

[@perfectly_cromulent]

Love these reviews so much.

[@andrewollmann304]

Oh, my God....TVtropes has a “Drinking Game” section about Charmed. There are four points in Alison’s reviews that Alison points out, and I quote: “take a shot every time one of the sisters complains about not having a normal life,” “Take a shot every time Phoebe puts her career or dates as a higher priority than helping save lives,” “one shot every time the a sister gets transformed into something,” and “take a shot every time Darryl states that he's a cop/when he complains about helping the sisters.” (the last one is understandable in-universe, though).

[@skeetsmcgrew3282]

So what you are saying is, TVtropes wants to kill people. Better not watch more than two episodes or you're gonna die

[@Khenfu_Cake]

"His final resting place is a hoover in the Halliwell's closet. Amazing" Oh, don't worry; at least he won't be alone. Probably got company by Cole's ashes too alongside every other demon the sisters have vanquished in their home over the years.

[@tvlover1492]

The charmed mythology was so inconsistent

[@tylerpreston699]

So the only likable characters that are left in Charmed can be counted by a handful: 1.) Prue 2.) Leo 3.) Daryl 4.) Paige 5.) Henry 6.) Billie 7.) Cole 8.) Murphy

[@maakujiten3812]

Tyler Preston Leo and Paige are questionable.

[@autumnjackson5427]

Prue (her character was actually developing) Cole ( wish they would have killed him off season 3 as well because they ruined his character) Daryl ( what a waste of an ally) but they were literally the best characters

[@TheCrippledEgg]

It was probably good that Prue was killed off when she did or she would have became a hag like the others.

[@maakujiten3812]

@@TheCrippledEgg She did the comics

[@blueskythinking6674]

Tyler Preston, You forgot Patty, the halliwell girls mother.

[@cjayy5786]

I do like however how Prue(Patience) explained it in season 9. That with four charmed ones their powers were essentially weakened which is why they were such a “threat” and tbh, if phoebe died instead of Prue charmed definitely would’ve taken a better turn.

[@naquingreen1603]

@CJayy I would have preferred that to. Prue's actresse wanted to take the show a darker & serious direction.

[@ChromeMona]

30:00 the voices you give piper and phoebe throughout the seasons has made me lmfao! I was trying to watch this last night when my husband was sleeping and I was shaking so much from trying to laugh silently I woke him up 😢 thanks colebama 😂❤

[@alclarke]

I haven’t laughed so hard in ages! Heinous fishwife Piper! “I’ve just disqualified myself. Goodbye.” So many brilliant observations.

[@vindozadm7772]

I admit, I liked Charmed, and when I started watching your videos I was thinking just some hater ranting about a show about strong women. But then I actually watched and listened to what you were saying saw the examples of how stupid this show was written. You speaking straight facts and I laughed so much watching your videos I absolutely love them . 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tomahilaire3921]

Thanks!

[@onematty01]

You should do Once Upon a Time

[@fatimagic1365]

oh god yes. that's another show that started off with three really great seasons, only to completely lose itself in network requirements, convoluted and and repeated plots and magic, toxic romantic relationships, and the ego of the show's star, jennifer morrison. honestly, allison, it has to be done.

[@joshroberts1936]

I actually think Jennifer Morrison's arc as Emma was one of the better part of the show after season 3. The main problem there is the two creators writing choices honestly they just simply couldnt let the show evolve well. So they recycled plots . JM didnt have that much control to do that even though it may seem that way.

[@frostysimmer4010]

It be amazing since Rose McGowan had a arc on it

[@vlaandhael]

??? Emma should have left the show during season 3

[@Schoolgirl325]

Two-and-a-half seasons. That show died fast!

[@MrBibi86]

*Can't believe Pheobe still lived in that one bedroom condo with 2 kids and another one on the way! they couldn't find another set or something?

[@bredrew1990]

In my headcanon Billie took that lease over for the condo. And Coop and Phoebe dropped their daughters so Billie can babysit.

[@kathrynrhall]

I’ve spent the last week watching your reviews. They are so funny. Makes me want to binge the show again. I especially love your Piper voice.

[@elirubin434]

I lost it at "That was MY face people used to sit on!"

[@reng935]

OMG the Phoebe growl was so funny hahahha

[@AwesomeAction]

Loved your Charmed reviews for each season! Would you consider doing one for Buffy?

[@AwesomeAction]

(the TV Show)

[@AllisonPregler]

Thanks so much! I don’t plan to do a season by season review of Buffy, but you never know!

[@savageman2394]

@@AllisonPreglerI would LOVE to see you demolish Pam from the Office 😂😂

[@KaneKaylan]

“Surely no one has peripheral vision, let me just stick my whole fucking face out here.” I am dead.

[@MsSharkDemon]

Once my sister rented a DVD set for this show thinking it was the first season but was disappointed it was one of the later seasons.

[@TheCrippledEgg]

Did the discs have glue on them?

[@mnicolemortensen7]

Great review again! My boyfriend didn't believe me when I told him about some of the things this show did, so I had him listen to some of this. He didn't make it too far. I am around the 52 min mark where it's talking about premonitions. Again I can't just help but think of Buffy. In season 1 where the prophecy said she would face the Master and she would die and he would rise. She faced him anyway and the kicker was(spoiler) he said that she herself made it come true. He said if you never would have come then I couldn't rise, because he did so by killing her. The point is you don't have to commit to something just because it is written somewhere or you saw it in a vision. The slightest thing can throw a course of events off. You can't see yourself getting married then bam Well I just met a guy this is obviously my future husband and father of my kids. I can't even be sure she knew his last name when she decided that.

[@MsJazmanianDevil]

I love your impressions of Phoebe and Piper 😂😂😂😂 cracked me up Everytime!

[@moomoocachoo9025]

What happened to Phoebe's condo? Couldn't they have went there instead of the underworld?

[@TheCrippledEgg]

Phoebe wanted to keep it all to herself.

[@charmedxo2321]

The underworld made it harder to track

[@iain9757]

No matter where Phoebe is it’s the underworld

[@nomduclavier]

Imagine eating with your hands at a two-year-old's birthday party.

[@Awesome_Pichu]

I feel like they could have done a different spin off with agent Murphy, have the guy attempting to solve magical cases by recruiting or befriending other witches and dealing with supernatural creatures and demons causing trouble.

[@HiperPivociarz]

You can't vanquish the Harlem Globetrotters!

[@Lisa-co9ng]

OMG what rabbit hole did I fall into...I saw your season 1 review and laugh my butt off all the way to season 8....this was absolutely fabulous (you said pretty much everything I thought...lol)

[@pythiasibyls6269]

Thank you for taking the time to damage your brain and doing this series, Lupa. You really took a bullet for the rest of us.

[@phonybeautrain6520]

The Evil Charmed Ones parading in the FBI Office with the Imperial March always make me laugh, So thanks Allison for those reviews!

[@UndeadGirlCyber]

I swear it doesn't matter how often I hear the charmed voice impressions, it gets me every time.

[@cjmccabe3616]

Phoebe... It was all about me!!! Best series ending line ever