What I REALLY think about CFMOTO...

[@chaseontwowheels]

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[@adrianquah6413]

Honestly, Chinese consumers are some of the toughest to please. They have almost unlimited options, from the expesnvie stuff by Western brands, to the Japanese stuff, to the local brands. This applies not just to motorcycles but almsot any industry that you can think off. Any small thing gets blown up in chinese social media. Sure, I won't talk about free speech against government. But free speech against companies is alive and strong. To get to be the number one motorcycle brand in China, CFMoto is certainly no slouch and definitely not one to fade.

[@crimsonravenx4484]

oh hell yes, the 450 is literally taking over biketok on douyin

[@mervyoung5397]

I bought the 2024 CFMOTO 450SRS, which has the single swing arm and traction control, back in April. I've clocked just over 3000km's (~2K miles) on it. It's my first bike ever. I don't have any experience with any other bikes, but I can tell you, this bike is an absolute blast to ride. It's so easy to ride and extremely forgiving for new/beginner riders. It's light, nimble, looks awesome and always gets a thumbs up from other drivers on the road. The 270 degree crank and OEM exhaust sounds fantastic. I can only imagine what it'd sound like with an aftermarket exhaust on it. I've kept mine stock standard for now. Build quality is actually pretty good on these. I can't complain at all. I haven't had ANY issues whatsoever, so I can't comment on CFMOTO's warranty claim process or anything, but hey, it came with 3 years warranty from the dealership, so I'm not worried one bit. I plan to get a second bike, however, it'll be a Naked bike. Looking at a 2021 Ducati Monster 659, which is also a Learner approved (power restricted) bike here in Australia. Anyway, if you are apprehensive about buying a CFMOTO, DON'T BE! These bikes are awesome and very reliable (so far). Safe riding everyone! :)

[@joshuaeacott4226]

I’m bloody happy to see this. I’m about to buy a 450SR-S when I can get my Ls, in Aus too, but I’ve been a bit apprehensive about it, and half considered a R3, R7 LAMS, CBR650R, Gixxer of some descript, etc, but haven’t been able to make my mind up. I am leaning towards the CFMoto.

[@TheScribblerHardcore]

ive been thinking about buying one, im just more worried about dealer support for it in my country(Austria)

[@jonathantanuwijaya25]

@@joshuaeacott4226 R3 is underpowered, R7, they look cool but not worth the price (imo). CBR is a good option as it got 4cyl (sounds amazing), but the 450 does a wonderful job, especially with the crossplane engine. I ride the 450SR daily and it got the power, acceleration, and comfort all together. And the looks...

[@joshuaeacott4226]

@@jonathantanuwijaya25 Thank you so much for the information man! It’s very comforting! Might be time to pull the trigger on the 450SR/450SRS!

[@alistairjolly9913]

This is amazing to hear mate thanks for commenting, I'm about to buy a 450 SR-S as my first bike too, so that's great to hear. Im in Australia too thankfully my local dealer is only 20 minutes from where I live, so that's super convenient.

[@cerebrix]

I love watching complete motovlogs while I drink my coffee in the morning.

[@mymysgaming6858]

See your comment was cut off on my phone so I saw, “I love watching complete motovlogs while I drink” then double backed and laughed

[@laudowitbooi205]

😂😂Same

[@SummitCoyote]

if anyone is worried about reliability. I own a 300nk...and it is my daily commuter. I have put 10K miles on it in under 2 years. It has only had one small issue with an odd ignition coil that was covered under warranty no questions asked. Everything else has been flawless on it. Plan on doing a 2 year 10K review soon on it when I get a moment to actually film something...

[@chaseontwowheels]

Good to hear real world numbers!

[@Talishar]

10K miles is nothing. You haven't even really hit the first major servicing interval yet on most motorcycles.

[@SummitCoyote]

@@Talishar 16k on this bike for the service interval. however I know people who have had brand new Triumph and HD bikes that had major issues before this mileage. in fact the guy with the Tiger has had it in the shop longer than in the garage. it's not going to just fall apart like everyone seems to be saying. so far it has been good. I plan to buy another bigger bike for longer trips and keep this one for commuting. so I'll see you at 20k

[@CollinMac96]

When you have 50k please comment back. That’s a good ball park to determine long term reliability

[@SummitCoyote]

@@CollinMac96 other than touring bikes, who actually has 50k on a motorcycle? especially a starter bike that you're going to keep for a couple years probably...tbh I've been happy with mine and I'm probably going to keep it for a while because it's a great and cheap commuter. if it doesn't explode in the first 10 to 15,000 mi. It's probably going to be fine. I think it says a lot that CFMoto's warranty doesn't have a mileage cap.

[@JasonRidesmoto]

I'll be honest... I wanted an ADV bike and I saw the video of you picking up the Ibex... at that point I had never heard of CFMOTO. In short I did my research and bought an Ibex 800T and have loved it for thousands of miles so far.

[@projectcrowdsurfer3732]

Same here. I love my ibex. What mods have you done to it?

[@JasonRidesmoto]

@@projectcrowdsurfer3732 I have a video on my channel about it. Basically exhaust, GPS, Mirrors, Foot Pegs, panniers

[@milbin1795]

Yo, the title scared me. I just bought one and haven't picked it up yet. If you said it was shit I would have cried lol.

[@isaacm12]

Well if you have a problem that the dealer cant fix.. Good luck getting ahold of cf moto they ingored my lemon law letter and my lawyers attempts.

[@otlndsh]

but Austin, it IS shit.

[@HuangHangLo]

Chase On Two Wheels are the last videos you need to be watching for reviews before a purchase. Get a review from owners, not paid reviewers.

[@HuangHangLo]

Also, CF Moto IS crap. I don't know anyone who didn't have issues within the first 6 months.

[@airgunbubba2505]

@@otlndsh No CFMoto isn't shit. They have a great reputation behind the scenes as they have trade deals/contracts with Yamaha, Kawasaki, and KTM. I own a 700CLX Sport. Very nice bike for 7k and a 2 year warranty not a 1 year like all the Japanese brands...do some homework before spouting off.

[@SubZeroXJ]

Just wish CFMoto would put their best foot forward by releasing the triple and other large, higher spec bikes for all markets

[@thetrustysidekick3013]

They probably think going smaller is better to get themselves an install base of customers who would be more favorable to the brand so when they do come out with a higher spec bike, they have people willing to upgrade to them.

[@airgunbubba2505]

I think that their (CFMoto) business goal is to get their "starter bikes" in the hands of new riders so that the new riders' next purchase will be the next step up in the CFMoto lineup. It makes sense to drop only beginner and intermediate bikes for the first 2-5 years and then they will release their 675cc I3 and the Voom 500cc I4. I would expect a liter bike in the next 3 years. Probably a CP4 equivalent motor.

[@kidlo2050]

I wish the 450srs was available in the US and I wish they had a 600cc inline 4 or could of been different with a 600cc V4

[@KOLOURplus]

With Eicma at the end of the year I'd be guessing the 675sr-s will be showcased then... Hopefully we don't have to wait too long.

[@Accost2u]

To be fair, the competition is killing itself off. So CFMOTO will have a lot of room to grow

[@BaptisteEvain-Laine]

Currently in the process of getting my A2 license and saving up for a bike that I sould be able to get in about 6 months. The 450SR is definitely on my options for my first bike. Thank's for making this whole series on it, gave us so much info about it.

[@joeedavies]

Hey - I'd like to recommend the CBR500R, I got my A2 in 2016 (and CBR500R in 2017) and its been awesome - still ride it to this day and it's definitely not holding me back! Nippy and cheap to own/run/insure etc - happy to help if you have any questions!

[@BaptisteEvain-Laine]

@@joeedavies Been eyeing it up to alongside the Ninja 500 too. Both are fairly more expensive in every aspect tho, even used they're not that much cheaper. Will still be on the look out by the time I got the license tho, thank's !

[@joeedavies]

@BaptisteEvain-Laine They are but they're also bulletproof- mine was sat in the garage for 3 years, same battery etc still started first time.

[@tylergenepinson9186]

OC. Local to you and love your content. OEMs are hard to deal with but you do make it seem seamless and the context is wonderful!

[@JustDraco-rq1yg]

OC I think videos like this really enlighten the viewers of the in and outs of what goes on with the channel. I have been watching your videos fora good minute and I always could tell that you genuinely enjoy the loaner bikes that just hit the right way for you. These videos really help influence new riders to get out there and give the passion a try.

[@Jeffslayzos]

I’m glad these OEMs are partnering with you and other creators - it’s one of the most helpful way for buyers to find the right product fit for us. Im getting back into riding after taking a break for almost a decade (moved from a small town to a giant metropolis which stole all the joy of riding for me), so I had no idea what’s out there as far as make, model, features, etc. Initially , I was DEAD SET on getting a Honda Rebel 1100 - but mostly because it was a compromise of everything I wanted, yet not the exact bike I envisioned. I’m much more into the “modern retro” look. After watching a Rebel 1100 video on your channel and another on MOTOBOB’s channel, I saw some of your Triumph videos on my recommended watchlist, which reminded me of how BADLY I wanted a Thruxton ~ 13 years ago. I watched those videos and went down a rabbit hole and found the perfect product fit for me - a Speed Twin! Picking it up this week. Now, I imagine your reach is so vast that you’ll likely help Triumph sell at least 100 bikes this year. That’s at least a million in sales, I’d think. I’m just napkin mathing here and I could be wildly off lmao. Seems like a solid investment in you. Of course, this only works if the OEM has a solid, desirable product. Anyway, I hope one day you and Motobob get an affiliate code I can give to triumph, that way I can give you a kickback when I get all my future Triumphs 😂. Love the content, and thank you for helping me find the best bike I’ve ever ridden. pretty damn close to my dream/forever bike , but time will tell ! 🙏

[@airtylerb]

OC I’ve been watching your channel since 2014/2015, aside from the increase in production value and the standardization of content, nothing’s really changed. Granted I do miss the days of regular motovlogs and the shenanigans of colabs, but you’ve been very consistent across the board for years now and your channel’s success reflects that.

[@TheAppalachianKid]

The title perked my interest because I just bought a CFMoto 700 CL-X Sport on clearance for $4500 which, after a lot of research, thought was an amazing deal. I didn’t think you were going to say they were crap. After riding mine for a while now, I know better. I enjoyed the video and became a member for a shot of winning the 450SS. I’ll stay a member depending on the videos and the next bike up for giveaway. So far, you have my attention. I would love to see more content on the 700CL-X Sport. I enjoyed the video, thanks.

[@cadiminder892]

OC, can’t wait for the 800nk vid , love the content, I work at a cfmoto dealer and it is shocking how much people don’t expect much out of them but are pleasantly surprised after the test rides

[@obamaball4477]

Had mine almost 3 months now, it’s been good, and reliable for the past 2300 miles

[@nfc14g]

With big purchases my #1 go to is KZbin vids. From initial reviews to 6 month reviews. Loving this bike at the moment, probably wouldn't have bought it without gaining some confidence in the reviews I've seen

[@christianparore1441]

OC And love your channel, your honesty and transparency, tuning in on the regular all the way from little old New Zealand

[@TheFirstCause]

Reliability has been my concern and is why I went with am MT07 over the 700CL-X. I think the 700CL-X is the better looking bike but after reading enough owner experiences I ditched the plan. I really liked the size of the seat and it looked like a better setup for mini touring adventures with my wife. But the issues I kept reading about were too much.

[@shaggy5153]

I already have 3015 miles on my 2024 450SS, done my second oil change by myself. So far, I got no issues riding, the engine runs very smoothly, shifting, doing rapid accelerations and deccelerations, and also running at high speeds especially on the freeway at 125mph. If I'm gonna rate it I say at 9/10, I'm gonna give it a 10/10 if they could release a quickshifter for it tho 😅.

[@charliecharlie9042]

This is a good disclosure type video, I was skeptical when I saw you making so much cfmoto but this def puts everything into a different light.

[@aftermarks]

I appreciate your perspective. I started on a Chinese-made Benelli TNT300 - maybe one of the lesser-quality brands you wouldn't name? I agree that at a discounted price, for my use it made sense. It was $2500 a year old when Honda 300s were $4500 used and I didn't want a Ninja and didn't fit on an MT-03. It's been absolutely fine for 15,000 miles, 50/50 commuting/fun. I have only had one issue, a park/neutral sensor error that doesn't affect rideability. I've learned and done most of my own maintenance, and parts are cheap. If I had paid full price for new - $6000 out the door at the time, maybe $4800 with time/effort - I may not have felt as satisfied. This is where CFMoto is hurt, by dealers asking $1200-$2000 in fees and by their MSRPs creeping in line with established brands. Resale value isn't enough to justify that. I can't get enough of how the Benelli sounds with its unique 360-degree twin - I now own an MV Agusta and it's still true.

[@Harpeia]

[oc] 450 sr is the most beautiful thing i've ever seen in my life. First ever time i saw it, i knew i had to have it. It was THE dream bike. And it absolutely did NOT disappoint. There is literally nothing that will sway me away from supporting cf moto. But the video is appreciated.

[@iam.marcus9254]

I just purchased the 2022 650nk and love it! Already put 1000 miles on it and I got it 2 weeks ago... Did first service and everything is in perfect order. No issues whatsoever

[@rocketfludy2873]

I have the 2019 and they're great bikes, absolutely love mine

[@iam.marcus9254]

@@rocketfludy2873 such a gem for the price... Absolutely confident in the quality and standards of CF Moto. Thank you for the reassurance and be safe out with the cagers my friend💓💯

[@JDelta87]

OC: I actually care about the behind the scenes stuff. Your OEM relationship goes about how I expected it to go. Thanks for sharing this with us. I started seeing a few of their bikes pop up in the city I’m in last year and looked further into the company.

[@dudebud72]

This video is exactly what needs to be. You are talking and we can hear how the bike performs. Love it! 28:40

[@jordandavid2326]

OC. More power to you! of all the oems uve interacted with so far CFMOTO seems to be the most non oldschool thinker imo and i love them for that😊

[@wlt3585]

I enjoy the motovlog and you shedding light on the topic. Thanks!

[@thereal-stl_slim]

This video is the reason I'm purchasing. KZbin plays 80% in a lot of purchasing decisions! Real reviews!! Great video 💯💯💯

[@aaronwheat5727]

The only problem I have with cfmoto is I think dealers are hurting there brand with BS add on fees. The MSRP sounds attractive then you go to a dealer or inquire about a 450ss there like oh it’s $7,800 out the door. After the 800$ freight fee 650$ assemble fee. Doc fee tariff fee. My local Honda dealer sells new cbr500r for msrp no fees. Am I saying the cbr500r is a better bike no I’m not. But if it’s the same price as a 450ss which one is most people gonna buy ? Again I think this may be more of a dealer problem than a Cfmoto factory problem. Just my 2 cents.

[@jesterapp]

Agreed. I had a CFMOTO 450nk and it was $7.6k after taxes fees and delivery.

[@Ray-mm1xg]

Dealerships add on fees on every single motorcycle they sell, no matter what brand, it’s just how they maximize their profits.

[@WVGHOST10]

OC and mad love for you and your content my car yeet’d a piston so I sold it for some quick cash but as a family of 4, one car, and both working parents I decided I wanted a bike I’ve always wanted one and now I live in Georgia as well so the weather is perfect. I found a 2023 300ss in immaculate condition for $4250 with less than 2k miles I paid the gentleman $3500 cash and he gave me a brand new helmet and all the original documentation and after some research it appears CF Moto will even respect your warranty if you purchase a used bike. I’m currently in the process right now and I have fallen in love with motorcycling it’s a challenge but an absolute blast hopefully I will be able to upgrade in the future to a a 22-23 450ss I love the colors and look of them. Thanks to you and your team for all the content!

[@tylerseifert4207]

OC Just passed my MSF last weekend!

[@Alexiz_S]

My guy thanks to all the videos on the 450ss you have made i was fully convinced it was the bike i wanted and met my riding needs & style👍🏽

[@nicksmith9358]

Your videos on the Ibex gave me confidence in purchasing one after I did a demo ride at road Atlanta

[@ghostontwowheels]

OC: "yOu ArE pAiD bY cFmOtO!!!" 😆 I think having the transparency on this is great... but, there's also a part of me that's sad that you have to explain this to some folks. I mean, the people that matter understand, so it's all good. LOL

[@JCrozier1]

OC Glad to see a motovlog. it feels so much less scripted. side note: super interested in MT07vs 800NK. hit that hard please.

[@charlieintheregularfactory]

buying my first bike (300nk) in the next few weeks and super excited about it because of your review on the 300ss

[@davidlv]

OC: As a 450NK owner, I really do enjoy it a lot. But, I don't want to get captured in the CFMOTO sphere. I'll probably go to another brand after a year or two on my NK.

[@BertSimsen]

As long as you enjoy your bike the opinion of others is meaningless

[@jesterapp]

I told myself the same thing and even left the USA and wound up buying another CFMOTO....

[@davidlv]

@@jesterapp It's hard for the product to price. It's a solid bike but sub 5K good lord what a value. O_O

[@ultimomos5918]

I've put about 1000 miles on my 300nk in the 2 months I've had it and I have to say, I absolutely love it and your channel is a large reason I decided CFMoto was the move for my first bike. Its nice to see people genuinely excited about things and I could tell you just loved riding these machines and knew I would feel the same. Thanks for your work and helping to get me on two wheels!

[@L8TrSkUmBaG]

Hope you can get an Ibex 450 soon!

[@nightshift8205]

I picked up the CFmoto Papio Cl a few months back in lieu of getting a grom or z125. I used to have a benelli 135 TNT. and let me tell you this Papio is a night and day difference in terms of quality when you compare it to other Chinese manufacturers. Aesthetically the bike is pleasing to look at, and reliability wise it does well. I actually enjoy riding the bike to the point where Im interested in picking up a 450ss in the near future over a z400 which I would never think I'd choose a chinese bike over any of the 3 Japanese brands but here we are. Well done CF Moto

[@4LowRocks]

OC. Great video. The Manufacturer and the Content Creator relationship is one of mutual benefit - as you have outlined. They get the advertising (just look at all the press on the release of Triumph's Daytona 660) and the Creators get the ability to produce a product for the audience they serve. Therefore I would not expect a company to pay you to review their products. But if a company is to give you a product - say something that once opened or installed on a bike becomes a rather permanent part of the bike, then the manufacturer may want to enter into some sort of a contract to make it worth their while - they may need to get a stated amount of views or the advertising may not be of much benefit to them. Great work in outlining what you've been doing with CFMoto.

[@kevingreen544]

Your channel is the reason I picked up the 300ss. I’ve had around 10 bikes in my life but never a new one. At CF motos price point it’s hard to pass up. My only regret in getting the 300ss is not going ahead and spending a little more money and getting the 450. The bike is awesome though.

[@philippowell560]

700CLX owner here. They are great bikes for anyone that is skeptical about them, as we all were initially. Take the leap of faith, you won’t be disappointed.

[@unclebadger597]

Finally got to sit on a few at the dealer. They seem quality. i can't wait to get the Ibex 450! 🏍️💨

[@diptenkrom]

OC - it is pretty much what i expected to hear. the main thing that is different is that i thought there was a possiblity of some kind of partnership for giveaway bikes. keep upo the great content. keeping my eye on the 800NK for now.

[@Villani_AV]

I appreciate the testing reason. Being stuck with a bike I'm unhappy with is annoying (more because I can't put up with the lack of comfort for distance rides on this one as much as i could on my old bikes)

[@W4rKnight]

OC: Thanks for the motovlog, this gives a lot of information to others, I just really like the bike, I ended up not caring too much about what brand, I just want to see it for myself. Thanks Chase!

[@glenbavero7971]

I just picked up my 2024 800NK this past Saturday and I am digging it a whole bunch. Last few bikes have been Ninja 650, and although I had fun on those bikes, this one is a keeper early on.

[@alphajames33]

What I really care about, is, what is the aftersales service and the possibility of scarcity of finding parts quickly and cheap. I've heard that the parts of Japanese bikes are cheaper and easier and quicker to find. Now that is a video I'd like to see you make and talk about these things!

[@RebornLemonScent]

OC Great review! Hopefully you get info on the new CFMOTO 675SR triple cylinder!

[@alcini1234]

Awesome vids! Your my go too for everything related to motorcycles. I have a CLX-700 heritage I picked up last November, just clocked 1k on it and it has been a solid bike! Very impressed..purchased new in Canada 8k (probably 6k USD) out the door!!

[@Kabanaboy6]

I absolutely I loved....on a side note where the hell am i😂 Awesome video C. I'm looking at the Ibex 800 Explore

[@richardbriggs7547]

Got a 22 700 clx and I love it so much I think when I get a more sporty bike I’m gonna try the 450 ss

[@adamwhite6797]

I have the CFmoto 300nk on the way for my first bike. As a cheaper option, I can't wait to get it.

[@joshwinters8568]

I currently only have a 3 wheel endorsement and ride a Ryker 900 Sport. I am signed up for the 2 wheel MSF course in a couple weeks, the 450ss is the bike I'm thinking of getting for my first bike

[@ArthAnsgar]

I love my 450SS. It doesn't have the same street cred--for lack of a better term--as some of the more popular makes and models, but it's plenty of fun to ride and I was out the door for around $5,700 (including taxes, fees, and reg) with a brand new bike.

[@ramtrev8215]

OC. You are shining the light on CF Moto

[@Rickmac22]

I really like your industry insight and I wish the big bike groups like Kawasaki would be a little more techy in their promotions. It’s also interesting, no matter how you come down on the bike reviews you’re going to get some criticism from some group. Keep doing great work!

[@abbyjo75]

OC sound off!! Great video. Seems these channels work more like I expected and less like the whiners in the comments suggest. Got my license in 2020, bought a $1500 82 Honda CM450E to practice on. Started watching your channel when I started looking for affordable starter bikes and had stumbled across CF Moto. Your reviews have been enlightening. Once I have myself situated, I'm pretty certain my first new motorcycle will be a CF Moto. Thanks for the great content!

[@azules9780]

Keep doing what you do. It's because of this bike that I found the channel. Then I liked the channel and subscribed. And now I found out about it being a giveaway bike?!?! Of course I'm signing up for that as well. Let's go man!

[@mrdygga6]

OC, most of your followers bought into the concept of WBRG because you (with help from companies and expert help) got hold of a bike destined for the scrapheap and put it back on the road. That idea gave hope to many, including myself, of winning a great prize. You now parade cheap Chinese bikes then use after market items to improve them. I know in the early days of WBRG how hard it was to learn how bikes work, how to rebuild them, what improvements can be bought/made.....but we all learnt together. Your CF Moto bikes are not wrecked and have not been rebuilt, so it is difficult to be "super stoked" with any progress/enhancements that you make. Seven great, difficult and frustrating years has resulted in show which is a pale shadow of its former self. Resurrected Ducatis, Kawasakis and Hondas were a fantasy to aspire to and made great content. RSMF .

[@dennygreen4336]

Oc: I also thought it was a speed bump 😂 thank you for clarifying the ins and outs of how it works. Stay safe out there!

[@Dan-56]

OC. I’ve watched a number of tests/reviews from over seas that explained the “loan system” for bike reviewers, but I was unsure how you worked out the “give away “ bikes. 👍. When it come to all the hate comments on reviews of Chinese bikes, two things come to mind; 1) Didn’t you just write all that vitriol and hate on your phone/tablet/laptop/computer that was made in China ? 🤔 2) I’m a really old fart, I can remember the same kind of hate leveled at the first Japanese bikes to come to the US, as only 20 years or so had passed since the end of WWII and many people had friends or family members who had died fighting Japan, and during its occupation and reconstruction many of the products coming from there were substandard. Live long enough and sadly you see history repeating itself 😉. Keep up the good work, I enjoy it all 😃!

[@yingyangorca4124]

Cfmoto reminds me of the late 90s proton brand and when they put out the satria GTI

[@Sandman68]

I have no issue with Chinese motorcycles. CF Moto's bike look really cool and I'm sure they are quality built. Like you mentioned, they do build engine for most of the lower displacement KTMs (and I own a 21 1290 SDR). The only thing that would make me think twice before buying one is the resell value. Not because they're junk but because of the general opinion people have of a company they don't know and yes, because it comes from China (too many cheap products came from there in the past). But kudos to you for getting that company known.

[@nickdayy]

kept me entertained for 28mins great video chase

[@5891ume]

Hello from Australia. I have one of the 800 NK advances. Awesome bike for the money, by far. It is basically a KTM duke 790R, for half the price and a little less power. However I have heard that you can use a KTM tune, to makes these bikes even better. Keep up the good work Chase.

[@tjey379]

Humans can be petty, I actually like the way CF Moto is reaching out and putting out their product and even if they were paying people to review their products I still get good content to watch. So paid or not just keep on keeping on.

[@BlueHippoMoto]

OC Chase you had us going but Having owned my 650MT /Adventura I believe you call them it’s a bit rough round the edges compared to a Japanese bike but I’d rather have something slightly cheaper with longer warranty than pay for a big brand name which tend to go wrong just out of warranty.

[@whoho159]

OC, really didn't think you would tell us how you run the business with OEM's and it was really interesting so thanks. in addition i would like you to make a video about the how easy or hard it is to work on cf moto bikes compared to other bikes you have owned, i have a cb650r and its a blast to work on but my older bike the vstrom250 was horrible. any way thanks chase keep up the good work.

[@manybikes]

OC 🎉 well… Sounds good your relationship works just about the same as mine with the OEMS. I have contact Kawasaki and with Suzuki. I will do my best to make an introduction.

[@squamate_1017]

Lol I just bought a 300ss this afternoon the title scared me lol!!

[@troy9er]

OC I always watch till the end! 👍🏻😉

[@hellomaakuhello]

As an owner of the 23 450SS US . This bike is a beast in its category. No problems so far, i ride it aggressively on the twisties near my area. I follow a lot of groups for kawasaki/Ktm/Yamaha /Etc. they have problems too much worse than cfmotk . Its not just cfmoto. People be nitpicking. Yes mods/aftermarkets will take a while or not available yet. The yoshimura real one does make a difference comparex to cheap ebay KO exhaust everyones running. (Ugly loud noise)

[@ericpashkovets8501]

OC, I live a little north of your location and yes I expected the system to work as it did. Most companies are greedy so I doubt they would give you anything else if they were providing the bike for a video.

[@StereoSensation]

OC. @15:00 "they find out I'm not a giant asshole" Yammie. He's throwing shade at Yammie.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Enjoyed the video Chase! I love my IBEX 800 T

[@xxYFKxx]

Brooo talk about the 675SR because I have a feeling that it will be a 675ss if it comes to the states!

[@glaverac1656]

8400 miles and going solid, great bike

[@jps8941]

The internet says that KTM owns 42% of CF Moto CF Moto actually make engines for Harley and a few other bikes too 20-year they have been in business

[@treystone1993]

The internet? Who exactly made those statements??

[@jps8941]

So I did not go down the rabbit hole because it really doesn't matter to me who owns the company. Well I'm interested in is the reliability of the motorcycle I don't want to go and acquire their business plan or their financial records to find out who owns them or anything like that. If the people on KZbin say it's reliable and the price is right that's what I'll be looking at. Advise anybody who wants to know more to go down the rabbit hole and do it in depth dive of the company.

[@noetic8]

​@@jps8941well said I'm diving down a large one right now trying to find my first bike and this seems promising

[@JessicaSimonson1976]

KTM owns no part of CF Moto....But they are partnered in another venture which CF Moto owns the majority share.

[@chaselandry2962]

They own the rights to some older ktm motors. But they made their own development and advancements on those motors. So now cfmoto is it's own thing.

[@Shadow.Shot.Airsoft]

Any updates on the CFMoto 450SR-S don't know if I wanna get this one or wait

[@Filthy_Goon]

Got my Ibex 800 in April and have clocked close to 7k on it so far. Has it had a couple weird glitches? Yes Is it enough to make me regret the purchase? No So far, great bike for the price point

[@wltr3865]

i've got the 700cl-x and I'll tell you I dog that thing out! I'd like to experience a track day with it to hone my skills and push it to its limits.

[@bajacore]

I rode a 650NK a year or so ago and was vastly underwhelmed. The ergos weren't great and the engine felt anemic at best in both sport and rain modes. Not saying they make bad bikes, but it was a letdown compared to its competition.

[@aftermarks]

I've ridden the 650NK, CL-X 700 Sport, and the 450SS and I agree, the 650NK was underwhelming. It made sense in comparison to the Z650 (and $1300 cheaper) but other middleweights are much nicer. It would have benefited from dealers pricing it aggressively instead of adding $1200-$2000 in fees like they try with other brands. The other two were much nicer, and they've already discontinued the 650NK. Seems they came out with a conservative bike to start at the top of their range, and the 800NK is better (but more expensive).

[@shawngreenwood7288]

OC I now work in a dealership. Like what they (cfmoto) is doing in atv/utv market.

[@TJ-qo2xu]

OC. I love that you are always honest, thorough, and entertaining. You are one of few motorcycle channels that I take the word of VERY seriously when researching into a potential first bike.

[@chaseontwowheels]

I appreciate that.

[@ScoobyFermentation]

You do realize Chase is not unbiased when he talks about CFMOTO, right?

[@Anthony-hc9ib]

Bro the new 675ss is awesome and is 8 grand. Nothing even close for that price. Advanced electronics. Save money. ❤ love your bike too. Great bike

[@Chad5ter]

Man I started watching you while you were doing motovlogs on your R6 and riding your wr250 with YammieNoob and Jake. Miss those times ! Still watching Mister MeGusta aka CHEAH! aka BakerXD¥ckhead 😛👌

[@olafdiers3613]

I bought a 800 NK some weeks ago and i'm happy with it ....Not the best Bike of all time but i like it. 😁👍

[@SteveySwidz]

new 2023 CFMoto 650 Adventuras are selling for $3,999 + tax, titles, fees. It's a steal atm

[@Tom1k9]

OC. What are your thoughts on the upcoming 500SR? CFMoto's inline 4 screamer to challenge the zx-4rr. I know the "Voom" is for domestic markets only but hoping to see the normal 500SR go international

[@evanhoffman8671]

OC: because of these videos, im in the market for an ibex 800, or 450. Definitely working in CF motos favor

[@dropsetv3322]

Although you're not payed, you still can't be 100% honest. If you're too honest or slam the brand, they will stop sending you a bike. You have to play nice with them and not reveal something that might upset them. It's just like in the early days of the red ring of death with Xbox 360. Major companies that reviewed it would not reveal the issue. It is what it is. I appreciate your videos and what you do. You try to be honest as much as you can. Keep up the good work.

[@hirs0009]

Here in Canada they are priced the same as the Japanese bikes. I cross shopped them last year and they just made zero financial sense. Why take the risk on a new company with known issues with parts availability and barely any aftermarket support. I understand their native bike connectivity app is basically straight garbage and doesn't work

[@nyckpcole]

OC. Still not interested in CF moto as a brand. I’m too big of a Yamaha fan. With that being said, love the content. Keep up the great work

[@brianblackwell7203]

I’m a life long rider and my wife loves to ride as well but she has always been the passenger and and recently said she wants to learn to ride on her own,is the 450ss a good starter bike

[@rik3849]

CM Great content all round Chase. CFMOTO are definitely getting bigger in Australia, there is still the exact same "Japancentric" view in some circles though. Maybe its right, maybe its wrong. I know one thing is that they've low key put the big 4 on notice which is exactly what the big 4 did to British and American manufacturers 60+ years ago. Honestly its refreshing to see a manufacturer market their products the way they have. It hits a target audience through guys like yourself and thats what they want right now. Being so new could they realistically supply a global market with that "80-90%" product you speak of that surprises people. Right now the are basically beta testing to smaller markets and its getting noticed. I mean they are winning the moto3 championship. THAT is a shot across the bow of the big 4 which can only mean better bikes and a more competitive market in the next 5 to 10 years. Im still looking around right now and have not decided what i want, i cant overlook cfmoto. Keep the content coming, motovlogs incl. 🤟😎🇦🇺

[@mr.z647]

The after sales and the reliability is all i care about i hope it doesnt suck like ktm rc 200 cuz selling price for second hand for ktm rc dropped so much

[@SLO_MZ3]

thinking about getting a 450sr/450ss for my first bike